Please remember that I make these videos for fun and to throw out some ideas for you all to think about, please don’t take everything I say as fact haha I’m gonna answer some questions I’ve been getting (I might update this over time): - Forgot to say that I think V_A is a misdirect. And could mean VariAtion of Afton. Or it could be 46 posing as Vanessa… for some reason LOL - 46 is using an illusion disc and in the cd’s says they like disguises. This is my explanation for how she got the job with the VR team. - Eleanor is not technically a variation of Elizabeth, it’s Charlie. Which backs up the theory anyways but you get the point LOL
@@litten4112 there is too much discrepancies between patient 46 and vanny, so it doesn't make sense to be her. that means that, or patient 46 is someone who didn't appear in the franchise yet, or is someone who we know and we need to discover.
I like where you're going with this except for one huge problem. You're still going on the assumption that Michael died in the FFPS fire just because Henry SAID Michael would not want to escape. Not escaping is against Mike's established profile however, as he DID just that a earlier the same year with the Fazbear Frights attraction featured in FNAF3, Mike sets fire to the building and splits. Then finds out his fire didn't work as the key target also escaped. Why would Mike just randomly ASSUME this time would be any different and let himself die and let there be no one left alive who knows what he knows? Need more? Michael's name appears as a recipient of the Special Delivery emails, which occurs WELL AFTER the events of FFPS. How could Mike be setting up an email account, and injecting some code to route copies of emails to him if he's a ghost rotting in an abandoned and buried building? The answer is simple. Because Mike's not there any more - he left through the fire escape Henry had planned for his bait worker. Henry was wrong about Mike, Mike DID want to use the exit and live to make sure the job was done. Mike CAN NOT possess Freddy or anyone because he's still alive. Is Mike playing a role in Freddy being friendly towards Gregory? Absolutely, but not the way everyone keeps assuming he is. Mike's learned some hacking skills in the years sense FFPS, and has been hacking FE systems, just as Glitchtrap and his cult have been. And Mike found out what was going on in the Pizzaplex, he hacked Freddy's copy of Glitchtrap, forcing it to turn on mid show, rather then wait for midnight like the copies of Gltichtrap in the other 3 Glamrocks did, knowing that Glitchtrap would be forded to run a security routine, and scan over 1000 people in attendance, and Freddy's hardware wouldn't be able to handle all that data and he'd crash. (this part is all covered in my Reddit theory MatPat covered last September under my Reddit UID of Seriously_Unserious).
These last 3 theories have been some of my favorite amongst the whole theorist community. "Need more proof?" is already feeling like such an iconic catchphrase. Can't wait for the next theory.
This guy is a genius. Instead of paying attention to all the insane lore hidden inside the books and security breach, he took a step back and went to a place almost nobody has ever gone before: fnaf world!
@@ShadowofLegacy and I can't believe there that many people who don't trust the books when MatPat talks about the references from the books. I don't think they like reading books too......
i think that recently mat pat has been getting pretty tired of fnaf. so it’s nice to see a fresh face that has the same enthusiasm as 2014-15 may pat when it comes to this series
Honestly I don’t blame him. He thought he was solving FNAF back in 3 and was already protesting the sudden announcement of FNAF 4 just as he completed what should’ve been his last theory for it, and that was years ago.
@@Excelsior1937 To add to this, if you've watched the Game Theory Matpat made a couple of weeks ago, he speculated that the four games might literally just be games in the FNAF world (which btw, if that REALLY is the case then I've lost all respect for Scott Cawthon/whoever-is-in-charge-these-days' storytelling skills and the FNAF series in general. Giving the "it was a dream all along!" angle a fresh paint job doesn't make it any less garbage). If you take that all of that into consideration, I can't blame the guy for getting sick of the series. All of his sixty odd FNAF theories were flushed down the drain just because someone lost track of the lore and couldn't be bothered writing himself out of the hole he'd put himself in.
@@dragonlord1935 I think Scott is still the one who writes the story for FNAF but because of the fans, he keep changing how the story is supposed to be tell. It's not even about horror anymore. It's about sci-fi and mystery, which in the mystery part is poorly executed. Those minute details were the key of solving the story, like Michael Afton who went to work at FNAF 1 location and were fired because he was tampering with the animatronics and he has foul odors. I believed that after he came back alive from Ennard escaping his skin suit, Michael's body has some bad odors because his skin is rotting. But then, when MatPat said that the early 4 games are just games in FNAF universe and not canon to the FNAF, I feel like all the time that I have spent watching theory videos and making theories on my own(eventhough my theory was about how Mangle and Funtime Foxy is the same animatronic is stupid, that was how I started theory crafting) has been wasted and turned into dust
@@dragonlord1935 Oh yeah definitely. It was bad enough that FNaF did it, and infuriating when Little Hope did it to shit on what had been a pretty engaging setup for a story, and I was completely floored when it turned out that Hello Neighbor game I never got into did it too. Like holy crap! Who keeps on telling these creators that “all a dream” twists aren’t bad? All you’ve gotta do is look online for 5 minutes to see someone explaining the problem 😂
You went from giving news about the community around Fnaf to becoming one of the best theorists of the game. Props to u. U deserve everything you've gained.
Just a thought: Tape girl being Charlie and Vanessa being Elisabeth would mean they are both robots. Meaning both of their consciousness would be simulated. Both would be AI. You might wanna add this point to the theory because that provides an explaination as to how both of them are susceptable to Glitchtrap's corruption: Afton's soul is manipulating machinery, as spirits have always done, that's the main thing about FNAF. He's become a computer program that manipulates the system he's on. Therefore he could infect and influence Tape Girl and Vanessa: they are both machines.
I like this line of thinking, but there's still the totally made-of-meat guy who cut his face off in FNAF VR due to the Aftonvirus' influence, if I'm remembering it correctly, so I'm not sure it holds up
@@velvet_violet really but you do know that this still woudn't make senes why woude tape girl even do that + if you stay with glitchtrap in the room then you can hear him talk like him saying 'hello' or 'is ther some one' but if you speed the voice lines up then you can tell that that is actully tape girl's voice which woude still not make senes since if elizabeth really is tape girl then why can we hear her voice and why deos it come from glitchtrap this woudn't make senes really.
"You've probably recognised my opinions have constantly chanegd on some things" which is 100% a good sign, changing what you think based on new evidence, All of this is compelling and this series has definitely gotten me a lot more hyped for Ruin :D
@@ДимитърКьосев-т8е fr. I think these types of comments are trying to farm likes or something since it's like that for every single youtuber and it's not like it's a rare occurrence
@@jairbeltran3402 yeah usually it's like that, for example the "only people who didn't come from tiktok are allowed to like this", but I just found fuhnaff not to long ago and now I'm subscribed and have been watching some older videos
John is literally so good at solving theories. He goes from the most obvious things to the smallest things that can decipher the lore and explain things we never though could be explained. Thanks for that
@@FuhNaff Indeed! You are doing an amazing job with all of them. Your theories have actually made me appreciate FNaF SB a lot more than what I used to.
I said this in the comment section of another video already; but I'm so excited that FuhNaff, RyeToast, and Matpat are all going full in on security breach right now! It's so cool so see them responding and building off each others theories! It feels like the old days of the FNAF fandom!
Great theories John! I thoroughly enjoyed the 3-part theory. I love how the evidence and reasoning changes as well as how you address these changes. Now, I just have to put the 3 videos together to remember all the evidence and reasoning to go with your theory. I'm amazed at all the small details that you went and investigated throughout the series in order make the videos and your theory. I look forward to your next theory(s)!!
I love this theory and how much it explains. Also my two thoughts: - I don't think that in current story we should be talking about the spirits. I think that Elizabeth, Michael and Charlie are programs/viruses like Afton. - We should take a look at Fury's Rage. This game always seemed forgotten by people. We should again take a look at it, but this time with all new info.
Only cassidy maybe is alive as a soul all the others are gone only agony of them is left which eventually formed the blob. Also isnt tape girl vanessa ? I thought that for a really long time
@selimardagokmen4727 Nope, Vanessa is the player character in Help Wanted. At the end of HW, the player gets infected with glitchtrap. And in the curse of dreadbear DLC if you hold the glitchtrap plush while you have the vanny mask on, you can hear glitchtrap giving Vanessa/Vanny instructions, showing that she was the one who got infected. Tape girl is someone else entirely.
These videos are absolutely incredible. I was watching MatPat's response and had to stop and go watch your original. The stuff you notice in researching is absolutely awesome, never in a million years would I have noticed some of this. Just had to heap some praise.
Hi John, I just want to say I really love the *way* you do theories!! They feel very fresh, and I like how you lean into narrative compared to with supporting evidence. Lots of people compare you to game theory, but game theory seems to be super into evidence to prove the theories, whereas John seems to lean into narrative and the overarching ideas. I like that!! It means they aren't approaching things the same way, so good job john!! It differentiates you from other fnaf theorists. Awesome job :]]
really if that is the case then explain the fact that fuhnaff is to lazy to read any of the fnaf bocks and rather uses the graphic novel even if not knowing that the graphic novels are inconsistent.
@@tamaritamarileonardo394 He said earlier that he uses the graphic novels because they are more in line with what Scott currently envisions for the story because he can visually dictate what he wants things to be to viewers. The book came out in ages ago and some parts just don't work with where FNAF is going anymore. The comics are the remaster.
This final theory blew me away. It is one of the most convincing FNAF theories I have heard of in recent years. It is well explained, backed up with solid elements, and most importantly of all, it feels coherent and it makes sense. Very nice work John !
I'm loving these videos so much. I've never been satisfied with fnaf theories since Security Breach, and my brain wants a satisfying conclusion to all this. This video felt like it got a lot of things right.
This is one of the things I love about fnaf. True or not, its fascinating how so many ideas like this could work. How many different conclusions all of us can come up with that fits different pieces. We all have our own version of events, a head Canon if you will, of what happened or is happening. I love hearing others theories for that reason alone, it's really cool to see what creative things folks find! Thank you for these videos they were a joy to listen to and I've even started another play through of security breach for the heck of it as a result. Cheers mate!
dude this is awesome. i love that you're bringing in new ideas and theories that nobody has researched yet. throughout the series, my eyes have widened at how elaborate and concise your theories are. keep it up!
Okay, just admit you're Scott's secret son already. Your theories are incredible man, it just feels like you were in Scott's mind. Great job, I hope that if The Ruin DLC leaves any new mysteries unsolved, you'll make some new theories. Keep up the good work with your channel!
@@ender01o66 what i hate most is he immediatly pauzes a video to say like that they didn’t cover something, but they cover it in the next few secs. STOP PAUZING
When I first started watching you, I thought you were just someone who reviewed and ranked FNAF content. Now I see you are much more. This is honestly better than what Matpat has done lately.
Out of any FNaF theory I've seen, this is the first one to put me on the edge of my seat, leaning forwards, and with my jaw dropped. This is really good.
4 weeks late but another reason to why Gregory is not a robot is one of Glamrock Freddy's scrapped line, when Gregory first hopped in Glamrock Freddy and he detects something. The line was "I am detecting blood", I saw this on freddit a few months back. I feel like this is an important detail.
It rly nice to know that all the lore has been somewhat explained to far, but also said that this series has come to a end, ty for fuiling my happiness once again :)
Well that was some damn good research. I like how your theories constantly change tbh. These games are complicated af and any small detail can derail any theory.
Your “solved Security Breach” is probably my fave and honestly makes so much sense to me. As a fellow die hard FNAF fan you’re my new fave theorist (tied with matpat) thanks for all you do John!
This video was insane but do you want to know what interested me? When you connected the withered foxy minigame in fnaf world with the labyrinth minigame in the curse of dreadbear dlc. I always thought since the first time I saw it that Grim Foxy's model looked way more similar to withered foxy's model instead of nightmsre foxy's. I know this might be a coincidence or just a different model, but if you think about it, both are minigames in which you have to keep going forward and hide with a foxy animatronic in it. One tells you to find the key, in the other one you find the actual key. In one you unlock an animstronic from an Halloween event (Nightmarionne) in the other one (which is an Halloween dlc) you find the mask that belongs to someone who is said to be connected to Nightmarionne. Too many coincidences.
John has completely changed my view on security breach For me it was a game that was released too early and still demanded developing time for plot and lore because a lot of it seemed cut or not finished But by digging THAT DEEP into the chaos that is FNAF you uncovered so much about this game that i actually think it is one of the best games of the series If just 50% of what you are talking about is true than that means there was A LOT of thought behind this game and that generally excites me as a fan Thank you so much for doing the FNAF lords work So sorry for errors i'm from Austria and my english is getting rusty
This man could completely solve the entire lore. Please go over every game to get the entire lore. Im sure u can solve the entire story even further as it already has. Im sure U can find something everyone missed. 🙂 i would love a serie like that
I learned the whole history of fnaf yesterday and I have came up with the conclusion that Scott didn’t plan any story and every time somebody makes a theory he just takes one of them and adds them into the next game/book with some small changes
these videos brought my attention to things i didn't even realize were in the games or had any importance, everything fits so well together! love your theories :)
Personally, I think Gregory already has the "Crying Child's" spirit in him, and THAT'S why he is so scared, he was with Cassidy and knows exactly what kind of man his father is, and he likely senses his father's spirit in Vanny. It would also explain the glitching, Gregory was exposed to that effect, and now the Crying Child is trying to fight back against his father. I also believe that "Vanny" is actually Elizabeth, and was being manipulated by Glitchtrap, that's why the 3 Star ending is the only one where all 3 Afton kids survive. Think about the sentence " Sometimes people know better, sometimes _I need to Listen_ " it sounds like what Elizabeth would say after getting revived by her father, as he whispers in her ear about how it was her disobeying him that caused her own death. So when you aid Cassidy in breaking free and killing Glitch-ton, you free Elizabeth from Afton's control, with Freddy(Micheal) and Gregory(Crying Child) joining with their freed 'sister'. Gregory having the Spirit of the Crying Child could also explain why the Princess Quest works for him, Cassidy can sense her friend working to help end it, they would have likely talked while they were both trapped in the body of Golden Freddy. Though this is just my theory. I could be wrong for any parts of it, or even all of it. Only time will tell.
Gregory already being the crying child just doesn't fully make sense as their personalities are not similar..Gregory is as scared as any kid would be locked in a mall alone, except he's more brave for some reason which doesn't line up with the crying child who's a coward; I'm not sure how their souls would of merged anyways as the crying child has been out of the golden Freddy suit for ages now, no way did it come back just to possess some kid. But I do think you're onto something with the stars, the stars seemingly represent how many of the main 3 characters make it out of the pizzaplex..3 stars when Vanessa, Gregory, and Freddy all make it out; 2 stars when Gregory and Freddy make it out; and 1 star for any endings where only Gregory leaves alone; ect.
@tester wolf:3 I think it’s rather c.c (crying child ) bonded with Gregory to save Cassidy and fight his father He is no longer a coward after the bite/nightmares and senses something going on with Vanessa that’s why he’s more scared of humans rather than the robots however I think your correct about the stars tysm for reading ❤
@@aishazbashir-kd2xl THIS. I think that Gregory has the spirit of C.C. in him, and that Crying Child is pushing Gregory forward, to save Cassidy and everyone else. Unlike with William, CC has no desire to dominate his host, so Gregory is still himself, but he has a friendly spirit helping push him forward. CC has seen so much, he doesn't want to let any more people suffer, he doesn't want to run scared anymore.
the foxy.exe and balloon world parallels is insane. It’s so impressive that you’ve figured this out, maybe people would never think to look there. But the pieces fit so good together: fnaf world, balloon world, Madness. Good job again and keep making these videos
The “I feel you are broken” thing could just be because it was originally gonna have the word bleeding but they had to change it to make it family friendly
I have a question: So if Tape Girl is Patient 46, whom was previously established in these videos as the Charle bot, does that mean that all 4 of the Charlie variations were made in canon just like the books? How else would she be able to get a job at Silver Parasol if she didn't look like an adult?
@@isabelortiz1230 exactly. Scott clarified in a Reddit post once that the books answer a lot of the questions left unanswered in the games and that both the books and games were canon, just in different dimensions and timelines. So this makes perfect sense.
My only curiosity is about the van mask on screen in the trailer that zoomed into its eye. I dont think she went through a re design because scot is very intentional with what we can see so I think maybe that mask is not the vanny we see in security breach. If anyone has any answers on this let me know
John, this video series has genuinely put smile on my face whenever I see a new upload. I have been following FNAF since 2014, and over time it has become difficult to keep up with new content and remembering details. Of course I watch Game Theory and Dawko, but it is so nice to see your outlook and work here. I love what you've pulled together, and I even love that your ideas keep changing. This franchise is near and dear to my heart, and creatives like you are what make it fun!! Thank you.
To throw more fuel into the fire for the "Charlie Bot is in SB": Want to know where else we've seen some kind of invisibility tech; a "false sensory output"? The schematics for Lefty. And at the end of the Lefty schematics, it is noted that "behavior upon suit seal not guaranteed". These are also schematics branded by Fazbear Entertainment. Henry Emily's name isn't printed anywhere, and in his speech he states "My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well." Henry didn't plan or expect to also have Charlie there.
I always loved fnaf theories, one of my guilty pleasure for years now, but you quickly made to my top favorite fnaf theorists with just your three newest "solving fnaf" videos. The way you structured them and the way you use proof from various sources of fnaf is just so fascinating. Keep up the great work man!
I like how your theory is gathering all the games and books and actually starts to make more sense now. This is why I love open-minded theories. I enjoyed all three videos and it gets better and better. And if this turns out to be true, then Scott is a mad genius!
do i believe this theory? not really do i love hearing John passionately talking about his favorite franchise and his own theory? ABSOLUTELY! keep up the awesome work! as long as you’re passionate about your content, people will love it! ❤️
While I admittedly had a harder time following this video compared to the last two (especially the fact you mentioned Tape girl and Charlie bot are both P46, it took me your pinned comment to realize you probably mean Charliebot and Tape girl are the same person by proxy) this was a neat series to follow!Regardless of if you're right or not you bring up some very interesting points worth considering, and I'm convinced that with your input on these details not many others have noticed that the fanbase may very well be one step closer to solve FNaF- or at the very least establish a more concrete foundation to build on for future theory-crafting lol
I gotta say, theories that go way back like this to make connections to everything are usually cool to me, even if they can be huge stretches. It just feels like classic FNaF theorizing.
I can see the dedication that have for this series in your face and the love that you have in the actions of your body. wow i just could not stop with the video I actually rewatched it because it blew my mind so much
Came here after seeing matpats new theory and holy moly you both reach similar conclusions! like in 11:50. Its really eerie how different theoriest can make different theorys in different aspects but still have some things line up perfectly.
Question: If patient 46 is the Charlie Bot, and they are also tape girl, how can they be an adult but also a child? Another question: if Vanny is using an ear piece and animatronics can’t see her, how come Freddy can see Vanny after getting Roxy’s eyes? Roxy is still an animatronic.
I can see where you're coming from with patient 46 being tape girl, but I'm confused why she would need to take on the identity of a random kid for the therapy sessions if she already has an adult persona she used to work for the vr team
Wtf I remember when this guy had 50k subs doing fnaf news getting 20k viewers per video always looking up to other bigger fnaf content creators and now look where he’s at. You’ve made it man, stay relentless, and don’t get tooooo comfortable, glad to see you rise up
Please remember that I make these videos for fun and to throw out some ideas for you all to think about, please don’t take everything I say as fact haha
I’m gonna answer some questions I’ve been getting (I might update this over time):
- Forgot to say that I think V_A is a misdirect. And could mean VariAtion of Afton. Or it could be 46 posing as Vanessa… for some reason LOL
- 46 is using an illusion disc and in the cd’s says they like disguises. This is my explanation for how she got the job with the VR team.
- Eleanor is not technically a variation of Elizabeth, it’s Charlie. Which backs up the theory anyways but you get the point LOL
How can we not take your evidence as factual considering how much times you say "Need more proof?"
@@litten4112 there is too much discrepancies between patient 46 and vanny, so it doesn't make sense to be her. that means that, or patient 46 is someone who didn't appear in the franchise yet, or is someone who we know and we need to discover.
@@doggy829and the other 50% is matpat talking about random shit and drawing a 16 minutes video into an hour and a half video
Screw that he’s better than matpat
I like where you're going with this except for one huge problem. You're still going on the assumption that Michael died in the FFPS fire just because Henry SAID Michael would not want to escape. Not escaping is against Mike's established profile however, as he DID just that a earlier the same year with the Fazbear Frights attraction featured in FNAF3, Mike sets fire to the building and splits. Then finds out his fire didn't work as the key target also escaped. Why would Mike just randomly ASSUME this time would be any different and let himself die and let there be no one left alive who knows what he knows?
Need more? Michael's name appears as a recipient of the Special Delivery emails, which occurs WELL AFTER the events of FFPS. How could Mike be setting up an email account, and injecting some code to route copies of emails to him if he's a ghost rotting in an abandoned and buried building?
The answer is simple. Because Mike's not there any more - he left through the fire escape Henry had planned for his bait worker. Henry was wrong about Mike, Mike DID want to use the exit and live to make sure the job was done. Mike CAN NOT possess Freddy or anyone because he's still alive. Is Mike playing a role in Freddy being friendly towards Gregory? Absolutely, but not the way everyone keeps assuming he is. Mike's learned some hacking skills in the years sense FFPS, and has been hacking FE systems, just as Glitchtrap and his cult have been. And Mike found out what was going on in the Pizzaplex, he hacked Freddy's copy of Glitchtrap, forcing it to turn on mid show, rather then wait for midnight like the copies of Gltichtrap in the other 3 Glamrocks did, knowing that Glitchtrap would be forded to run a security routine, and scan over 1000 people in attendance, and Freddy's hardware wouldn't be able to handle all that data and he'd crash. (this part is all covered in my Reddit theory MatPat covered last September under my Reddit UID of Seriously_Unserious).
Can't wait to see MatPat spend 3 hours reacting to 5 seconds of this clip
I tried getting through that video that was too much to watch
He didn’t even release his reaction to the second part of the previous video…
my man made a 1 hour video and didnt even finish john's😭😭😭
LOL
bro fr this man paused every 6 seconds
These last 3 theories have been some of my favorite amongst the whole theorist community. "Need more proof?" is already feeling like such an iconic catchphrase. Can't wait for the next theory.
John is legit a freakin fnaf legend. His passion and dedication to the series truly inspires and makes me appreciate the series again.
This guy is a genius. Instead of paying attention to all the insane lore hidden inside the books and security breach, he took a step back and went to a place almost nobody has ever gone before: fnaf world!
I have never even seen that nightmarionnete connection, genius
And it's actually something tangible, there's some proper evidence. Crazy.
Even though he uses the books multiple times in the videos. You can't ignore the books as they are a gateway to the games.
@@ShadowofLegacy and I can't believe there that many people who don't trust the books when MatPat talks about the references from the books. I don't think they like reading books too......
RyeToast has some really fun FNAF World Videos if you want more FNAF World stuff :)
I hope this "FINALE" never ends, just seeing theories of any kind for the mess which we love that is FNAF will still always be amazing to me!
he isn't going to stop doing theories
We still need the FINALE REMATCH and the GRAND FINALE lol.
We have a DLC coming soon, probably will be picked up then.
@@legoboy7107 legit thinking this xD
He's doing his best matpatt impersonation with his "final"... I hope. John is a good egg. He better not go into hiding. Cause HE ALWAYS COMES BACK.
You should make this a series, going game by game solving their lore, because your detective work is just incredible!
super horror bro did this ❤️
Imagine going backwards. Like next video is help wanted, then ucn and pizzeria sim
@@AstralShot has anyone actually gone backwards to solve the lore? maybe new things will fit into place by doing so
@@Soup.S4 wait that's a brilliant idea actually, game and book wise omg
@@Soup.S4 wait that's a brilliant idea actually, game and book wise omg
I'm so happy you'll be making more theories. These are AWESOME!
I know right?
i think that recently mat pat has been getting pretty tired of fnaf. so it’s nice to see a fresh face that has the same enthusiasm as 2014-15 may pat when it comes to this series
Honestly I don’t blame him. He thought he was solving FNAF back in 3 and was already protesting the sudden announcement of FNAF 4 just as he completed what should’ve been his last theory for it, and that was years ago.
@@Excelsior1937 To add to this, if you've watched the Game Theory Matpat made a couple of weeks ago, he speculated that the four games might literally just be games in the FNAF world (which btw, if that REALLY is the case then I've lost all respect for Scott Cawthon/whoever-is-in-charge-these-days' storytelling skills and the FNAF series in general. Giving the "it was a dream all along!" angle a fresh paint job doesn't make it any less garbage). If you take that all of that into consideration, I can't blame the guy for getting sick of the series. All of his sixty odd FNAF theories were flushed down the drain just because someone lost track of the lore and couldn't be bothered writing himself out of the hole he'd put himself in.
@@dragonlord1935 I think Scott is still the one who writes the story for FNAF but because of the fans, he keep changing how the story is supposed to be tell. It's not even about horror anymore. It's about sci-fi and mystery, which in the mystery part is poorly executed. Those minute details were the key of solving the story, like Michael Afton who went to work at FNAF 1 location and were fired because he was tampering with the animatronics and he has foul odors. I believed that after he came back alive from Ennard escaping his skin suit, Michael's body has some bad odors because his skin is rotting. But then, when MatPat said that the early 4 games are just games in FNAF universe and not canon to the FNAF, I feel like all the time that I have spent watching theory videos and making theories on my own(eventhough my theory was about how Mangle and Funtime Foxy is the same animatronic is stupid, that was how I started theory crafting) has been wasted and turned into dust
@@dragonlord1935 Oh yeah definitely. It was bad enough that FNaF did it, and infuriating when Little Hope did it to shit on what had been a pretty engaging setup for a story, and I was completely floored when it turned out that Hello Neighbor game I never got into did it too. Like holy crap! Who keeps on telling these creators that “all a dream” twists aren’t bad? All you’ve gotta do is look online for 5 minutes to see someone explaining the problem 😂
You just don’t fucking quit bro. Insane work. Your dedication to pouring over details nobody else considered is paying off.
Somebody give this man an award for such dedication to this game's lore
You went from giving news about the community around Fnaf to becoming one of the best theorists of the game. Props to u. U deserve everything you've gained.
Just a thought: Tape girl being Charlie and Vanessa being Elisabeth would mean they are both robots. Meaning both of their consciousness would be simulated. Both would be AI.
You might wanna add this point to the theory because that provides an explaination as to how both of them are susceptable to Glitchtrap's corruption:
Afton's soul is manipulating machinery, as spirits have always done, that's the main thing about FNAF. He's become a computer program that manipulates the system he's on. Therefore he could infect and influence Tape Girl and Vanessa: they are both machines.
I like this line of thinking, but there's still the totally made-of-meat guy who cut his face off in FNAF VR due to the Aftonvirus' influence, if I'm remembering it correctly, so I'm not sure it holds up
@@velvet_violet really but you do know that this still woudn't make senes why woude tape girl even do that + if you stay with glitchtrap in the room then you can hear him talk like him saying 'hello' or 'is ther some one' but if you speed the voice lines up then you can tell that that is actully tape girl's voice which woude still not make senes since if elizabeth really is tape girl then why can we hear her voice and why deos it come from glitchtrap this woudn't make senes really.
@@antikovt i think he tried to take the dude over but had to realize he could not melt with a human. So he lured a charliebot and took her over
Its confirmed, John is definitely getting answers from Scott, its the only explainable reason for the genius that is these "theories"
"You've probably recognised my opinions have constantly chanegd on some things" which is 100% a good sign, changing what you think based on new evidence, All of this is compelling and this series has definitely gotten me a lot more hyped for Ruin :D
A true scientist is happy to be wrong or change their views
I'm going to honest; anyone trying to explain fnaf at this point sounds insane, but in a good way.
Who else randomly found FuhNaff and now watches him regularly?
That is how it works for every youtuer
@@ДимитърКьосев-т8е fr. I think these types of comments are trying to farm likes or something since it's like that for every single youtuber and it's not like it's a rare occurrence
@@jairbeltran3402 yeah usually it's like that, for example the "only people who didn't come from tiktok are allowed to like this", but I just found fuhnaff not to long ago and now I'm subscribed and have been watching some older videos
@@cooker19 oh alright
since 30k subs bro. since 30k.
John is literally so good at solving theories. He goes from the most obvious things to the smallest things that can decipher the lore and explain things we never though could be explained. Thanks for that
Isnt vanessa tape girl ?
These have been... insane.
I'm not too convinced on the Update 2 thing but the connections are uncanny. Really really good job!
Thank you! And that’s alright! That’s the fun thing about theorizing :)
@@FuhNaff Indeed! You are doing an amazing job with all of them. Your theories have actually made me appreciate FNaF SB a lot more than what I used to.
I said this in the comment section of another video already; but I'm so excited that FuhNaff, RyeToast, and Matpat are all going full in on security breach right now! It's so cool so see them responding and building off each others theories! It feels like the old days of the FNAF fandom!
Just listened to the whole theory, and I absolutely love this. Never have all the pieces aligned so well. Well done!
Great theories John! I thoroughly enjoyed the 3-part theory. I love how the evidence and reasoning changes as well as how you address these changes. Now, I just have to put the 3 videos together to remember all the evidence and reasoning to go with your theory. I'm amazed at all the small details that you went and investigated throughout the series in order make the videos and your theory. I look forward to your next theory(s)!!
I love this theory and how much it explains.
Also my two thoughts:
- I don't think that in current story we should be talking about the spirits. I think that Elizabeth, Michael and Charlie are programs/viruses like Afton.
- We should take a look at Fury's Rage. This game always seemed forgotten by people. We should again take a look at it, but this time with all new info.
Only cassidy maybe is alive as a soul all the others are gone only agony of them is left which eventually formed the blob. Also isnt tape girl vanessa ? I thought that for a really long time
For real life
@selimardagokmen4727 Nope, Vanessa is the player character in Help Wanted. At the end of HW, the player gets infected with glitchtrap. And in the curse of dreadbear DLC if you hold the glitchtrap plush while you have the vanny mask on, you can hear glitchtrap giving Vanessa/Vanny instructions, showing that she was the one who got infected. Tape girl is someone else entirely.
Theorist, Reporter, Streamer, RUclipsr, Speedrunner, he’s becoming too powerful
I've been loving this series so much, kind of sad to see it end
It's fnaf ...it's never over
Than again when the dlc for security breach comes out... There probably will be more.
@@TheShardsFamily I think they meant the video series
@@Agaricus_cuscus do you know when the dlc is coming out?
@@itsmefaith8976 No. Because we haven’t gotten a release date.
These videos are absolutely incredible. I was watching MatPat's response and had to stop and go watch your original. The stuff you notice in researching is absolutely awesome, never in a million years would I have noticed some of this. Just had to heap some praise.
Hi John, I just want to say I really love the *way* you do theories!! They feel very fresh, and I like how you lean into narrative compared to with supporting evidence. Lots of people compare you to game theory, but game theory seems to be super into evidence to prove the theories, whereas John seems to lean into narrative and the overarching ideas. I like that!! It means they aren't approaching things the same way, so good job john!! It differentiates you from other fnaf theorists. Awesome job :]]
Agreed!
really if that is the case then explain the fact that fuhnaff is to lazy to read any of the fnaf bocks and rather uses the graphic novel even if not knowing that the graphic novels are inconsistent.
@@tamaritamarileonardo394 What
@@tamaritamarileonardo394 He said earlier that he uses the graphic novels because they are more in line with what Scott currently envisions for the story because he can visually dictate what he wants things to be to viewers. The book came out in ages ago and some parts just don't work with where FNAF is going anymore. The comics are the remaster.
This final theory blew me away. It is one of the most convincing FNAF theories I have heard of in recent years. It is well explained, backed up with solid elements, and most importantly of all, it feels coherent and it makes sense. Very nice work John !
I feel like john has officially earned his fnaf theorist stripes.
this series has some of the most solid theories i’ve ever seen. keep it up! 👍
I'm loving these videos so much. I've never been satisfied with fnaf theories since Security Breach, and my brain wants a satisfying conclusion to all this. This video felt like it got a lot of things right.
"funny that this glass makes sound" was one hell of a rabbit hole lmao
This is one of the things I love about fnaf. True or not, its fascinating how so many ideas like this could work. How many different conclusions all of us can come up with that fits different pieces. We all have our own version of events, a head Canon if you will, of what happened or is happening. I love hearing others theories for that reason alone, it's really cool to see what creative things folks find! Thank you for these videos they were a joy to listen to and I've even started another play through of security breach for the heck of it as a result.
Cheers mate!
dude this is awesome. i love that you're bringing in new ideas and theories that nobody has researched yet. throughout the series, my eyes have widened at how elaborate and concise your theories are. keep it up!
Okay, just admit you're Scott's secret son already. Your theories are incredible man, it just feels like you were in Scott's mind. Great job, I hope that if The Ruin DLC leaves any new mysteries unsolved, you'll make some new theories. Keep up the good work with your channel!
Keep up the good work
Can’t wait for matpat to talk every 3 seconds and milk this for 3 episodes
HAH YEAH. The first vid was 3x longer then the original
@@Phosphorite05 the second video didn't even cover the whole video 💀
@@ender01o66 i didnt watch the whole thing he never covered the whole vid???
@@Phosphorite05 yup
@@ender01o66 what i hate most is he immediatly pauzes a video to say like that they didn’t cover something, but they cover it in the next few secs. STOP PAUZING
"To show you how Scott planned this in 2016, I need to take you back to 2016".
John you are amazing, keep up the good work with the theories
BRO SPITTING STRAIGHT FACTS
When I first started watching you, I thought you were just someone who reviewed and ranked FNAF content. Now I see you are much more. This is honestly better than what Matpat has done lately.
Out of any FNaF theory I've seen, this is the first one to put me on the edge of my seat, leaning forwards, and with my jaw dropped.
This is really good.
4 weeks late but another reason to why Gregory is not a robot is one of Glamrock Freddy's scrapped line, when Gregory first hopped in Glamrock Freddy and he detects something. The line was "I am detecting blood", I saw this on freddit a few months back. I feel like this is an important detail.
I love these theories. They are at MatPat level of analysis
Gotta love how the past 2 episodes explaining how Charlie is patient 46 and he just threw it all away
"The story that Scott has planned since 2016"
Scott: So, I've changed the contents of this box like 5 times, and I might do it again.
And we thought matpat was going to solve it first, but nope. You just appear out of knowhere and bless us with your knowledge
It rly nice to know that all the lore has been somewhat explained to far, but also said that this series has come to a end, ty for fuiling my happiness once again :)
Well that was some damn good research. I like how your theories constantly change tbh. These games are complicated af and any small detail can derail any theory.
Mate, you've gone absolutely nuts. I love it
REALLY good theory! You had me speechless when you said patient 46 was tape girl. Keep up the good work!
Isnt vanessa tpe girl? Or different
I love these videos. I have no clue how you are putting together so many clues that very little to no people have put together.
Your “solved Security Breach” is probably my fave and honestly makes so much sense to me. As a fellow die hard FNAF fan you’re my new fave theorist (tied with matpat) thanks for all you do John!
This video was insane but do you want to know what interested me? When you connected the withered foxy minigame in fnaf world with the labyrinth minigame in the curse of dreadbear dlc. I always thought since the first time I saw it that Grim Foxy's model looked way more similar to withered foxy's model instead of nightmsre foxy's. I know this might be a coincidence or just a different model, but if you think about it, both are minigames in which you have to keep going forward and hide with a foxy animatronic in it. One tells you to find the key, in the other one you find the actual key. In one you unlock an animstronic from an Halloween event (Nightmarionne) in the other one (which is an Halloween dlc) you find the mask that belongs to someone who is said to be connected to Nightmarionne. Too many coincidences.
usually I'm confused with fnaf. John, you have made a great explanation for every confusing bit. your the best. :)
Your videos are very impressive, it’s amazing to watch and I have a lot of fun watching FNAF theories!
Thank you!! 💙
John has completely changed my view on security breach
For me it was a game that was released too early and still demanded developing time for plot and lore because a lot of it seemed cut or not finished
But by digging THAT DEEP into the chaos that is FNAF you uncovered so much about this game that i actually think it is one of the best games of the series
If just 50% of what you are talking about is true than that means there was A LOT of thought behind this game and that generally excites me as a fan
Thank you so much for doing the FNAF lords work
So sorry for errors i'm from Austria and my english is getting rusty
This man could completely solve the entire lore. Please go over every game to get the entire lore. Im sure u can solve the entire story even further as it already has. Im sure U can find something everyone missed. 🙂 i would love a serie like that
I learned the whole history of fnaf yesterday and I have came up with the conclusion that Scott didn’t plan any story and every time somebody makes a theory he just takes one of them and adds them into the next game/book with some small changes
these videos brought my attention to things i didn't even realize were in the games or had any importance, everything fits so well together! love your theories :)
12:56 FINALLY someone mentioned it! The both of you part felt like a crucial part to theories
14:13 my only problem with this is that Freddy CAN see Vanny, when he is using Roxy’s eyes. Meaning it’s a Freddy problem, not a Gregory problem.
You have heard about
"But that's just a theory, A GAME THEORY! "
now get ready for...
"Need more proof? "
Personally, I think Gregory already has the "Crying Child's" spirit in him, and THAT'S why he is so scared, he was with Cassidy and knows exactly what kind of man his father is, and he likely senses his father's spirit in Vanny. It would also explain the glitching, Gregory was exposed to that effect, and now the Crying Child is trying to fight back against his father. I also believe that "Vanny" is actually Elizabeth, and was being manipulated by Glitchtrap, that's why the 3 Star ending is the only one where all 3 Afton kids survive.
Think about the sentence " Sometimes people know better, sometimes _I need to Listen_ " it sounds like what Elizabeth would say after getting revived by her father, as he whispers in her ear about how it was her disobeying him that caused her own death. So when you aid Cassidy in breaking free and killing Glitch-ton, you free Elizabeth from Afton's control, with Freddy(Micheal) and Gregory(Crying Child) joining with their freed 'sister'.
Gregory having the Spirit of the Crying Child could also explain why the Princess Quest works for him, Cassidy can sense her friend working to help end it, they would have likely talked while they were both trapped in the body of Golden Freddy.
Though this is just my theory. I could be wrong for any parts of it, or even all of it. Only time will tell.
Gregory already being the crying child just doesn't fully make sense as their personalities are not similar..Gregory is as scared as any kid would be locked in a mall alone, except he's more brave for some reason which doesn't line up with the crying child who's a coward; I'm not sure how their souls would of merged anyways as the crying child has been out of the golden Freddy suit for ages now, no way did it come back just to possess some kid.
But I do think you're onto something with the stars, the stars seemingly represent how many of the main 3 characters make it out of the pizzaplex..3 stars when Vanessa, Gregory, and Freddy all make it out; 2 stars when Gregory and Freddy make it out; and 1 star for any endings where only Gregory leaves alone; ect.
@@testerwulf3357 out of topic isnt vanessa tape girl ?
I Agree lol
@tester wolf:3 I think it’s rather c.c (crying child ) bonded with Gregory to save Cassidy and fight his father
He is no longer a coward after the bite/nightmares and senses something going on with Vanessa that’s why he’s more scared of humans rather than the robots however I think your correct about the stars
tysm for reading ❤
@@aishazbashir-kd2xl THIS. I think that Gregory has the spirit of C.C. in him, and that Crying Child is pushing Gregory forward, to save Cassidy and everyone else. Unlike with William, CC has no desire to dominate his host, so Gregory is still himself, but he has a friendly spirit helping push him forward.
CC has seen so much, he doesn't want to let any more people suffer, he doesn't want to run scared anymore.
the foxy.exe and balloon world parallels is insane. It’s so impressive that you’ve figured this out, maybe people would never think to look there. But the pieces fit so good together: fnaf world, balloon world, Madness. Good job again and keep making these videos
There’s a third one!!?????? Damn I’m impressed, keep up the good work
The “I feel you are broken” thing could just be because it was originally gonna have the word bleeding but they had to change it to make it family friendly
This was really fun! It feels like early FNAF days trying anything and everything seeing what works and doesn’t. This was a blast
I loved this mini series great work!
Nobody gonna mention that nightmarionne came out on a Halloween update to begin with? Which further confirms this theory
0:16 YES THANK GOODNESS, I’ve been loving the theory crafting here; really awesome stuff!!
I have a question:
So if Tape Girl is Patient 46, whom was previously established in these videos as the Charle bot, does that mean that all 4 of the Charlie variations were made in canon just like the books? How else would she be able to get a job at Silver Parasol if she didn't look like an adult?
Illusion discs my friend. 46 loves disguises.
@@FuhNaff I mean, those are slowly becoming more and more commonly seen in Tales of the Pizzaplex, so that makes perfect sense.
@@FuhNaff if charlie is canon and the charlie bots died at the end of the book how is charlie still alive then
@@DahHourglass It's different timelines
@@isabelortiz1230 exactly. Scott clarified in a Reddit post once that the books answer a lot of the questions left unanswered in the games and that both the books and games were canon, just in different dimensions and timelines. So this makes perfect sense.
1:44 the scores screen on the arcade machine looks like a crying child
Why am I 21 minutes late? I love the way he is putting his theory that seems to be very accurate to the actual story Steelwool tried to make.
“Fake fur, what are you going to make?”
A fursui- I mean a bunny suit to scare little children
My only curiosity is about the van mask on screen in the trailer that zoomed into its eye. I dont think she went through a re design because scot is very intentional with what we can see so I think maybe that mask is not the vanny we see in security breach. If anyone has any answers on this let me know
One of the most frustrating Fnaf things to solve and you did it! John you're incredible!
John, this video series has genuinely put smile on my face whenever I see a new upload. I have been following FNAF since 2014, and over time it has become difficult to keep up with new content and remembering details.
Of course I watch Game Theory and Dawko, but it is so nice to see your outlook and work here. I love what you've pulled together, and I even love that your ideas keep changing. This franchise is near and dear to my heart, and creatives like you are what make it fun!! Thank you.
Great theory man! A good amount of stuff to think about here
hi rye toast!! love your vids :D
Always excited for new FNAF theories
new fnaf theory that i aprove of? one of the best birthday present i've gotten today!
These are such cool videos. It's amazing having someone willing to do so much work to understand the games. Right or wrong these have been great.
To throw more fuel into the fire for the "Charlie Bot is in SB": Want to know where else we've seen some kind of invisibility tech; a "false sensory output"?
The schematics for Lefty.
And at the end of the Lefty schematics, it is noted that "behavior upon suit seal not guaranteed". These are also schematics branded by Fazbear Entertainment. Henry Emily's name isn't printed anywhere, and in his speech he states "My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well." Henry didn't plan or expect to also have Charlie there.
I always loved fnaf theories, one of my guilty pleasure for years now, but you quickly made to my top favorite fnaf theorists with just your three newest "solving fnaf" videos. The way you structured them and the way you use proof from various sources of fnaf is just so fascinating. Keep up the great work man!
I like how your theory is gathering all the games and books and actually starts to make more sense now. This is why I love open-minded theories. I enjoyed all three videos and it gets better and better. And if this turns out to be true, then Scott is a mad genius!
Can't wait to watch MatPat react to this one.
Don’t forget one of the robot Charlie’s first memories is being on a hill with her father Henry and that same hull had a lone tree
This dude is gonna be the next MatPat, hes a genius!
Bro reviews all of the fnaf games, thinks about everything, does a theory and edits it in one week. Keep it up I love these theories.
do i believe this theory? not really
do i love hearing John passionately talking about his favorite franchise and his own theory? ABSOLUTELY!
keep up the awesome work! as long as you’re passionate about your content, people will love it! ❤️
While I admittedly had a harder time following this video compared to the last two (especially the fact you mentioned Tape girl and Charlie bot are both P46, it took me your pinned comment to realize you probably mean Charliebot and Tape girl are the same person by proxy) this was a neat series to follow!Regardless of if you're right or not you bring up some very interesting points worth considering, and I'm convinced that with your input on these details not many others have noticed that the fanbase may very well be one step closer to solve FNaF- or at the very least establish a more concrete foundation to build on for future theory-crafting lol
You know I never thought I'd see the day where Foxy.exe is canon.
I love your theories, they have alot of proof and are thought trough, amazing! Overall love your content, super exited for more :D
I gotta say, theories that go way back like this to make connections to everything are usually cool to me, even if they can be huge stretches.
It just feels like classic FNaF theorizing.
I can see the dedication that have for this series in your face and the love that you have in the actions of your body. wow i just could not stop with the video I actually rewatched it because it blew my mind so much
Better than game theory imo, amazing theories!!!
@Doggy true, his reaction vids annoyed me, he was so condescending and rude for no reason
Came here after seeing matpats new theory and holy moly you both reach similar conclusions! like in 11:50.
Its really eerie how different theoriest can make different theorys in different aspects but still have some things line up perfectly.
John got me out here looking forward to everything he drops and you know its a good day when he drops
Question:
If patient 46 is the Charlie Bot, and they are also tape girl, how can they be an adult but also a child?
Another question: if Vanny is using an ear piece and animatronics can’t see her, how come Freddy can see Vanny after getting Roxy’s eyes? Roxy is still an animatronic.
I can see where you're coming from with patient 46 being tape girl, but I'm confused why she would need to take on the identity of a random kid for the therapy sessions if she already has an adult persona she used to work for the vr team
Wtf I remember when this guy had 50k subs doing fnaf news getting 20k viewers per video always looking up to other bigger fnaf content creators and now look where he’s at. You’ve made it man, stay relentless, and don’t get tooooo comfortable, glad to see you rise up