Natal Mars Square Pluto- Prepared For Combat!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- What we see in the natal chart when Mars squares Pluto in the birth chart. The need for the ego to mature and chill.
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As a mars square Pluto let me tell you how this worked out for me. I HATED confrontation as a kid. I was the most mild and timid kid you would probably meet (Saturn in Pisces in first house) I didn’t know how to set up boundaries, I didn’t know how to take a stand. I let people walk all over me. But growing up I attracted friends who were very antagonizing (Mars in Seventh). My friends would just as easily become a bully of mine or an enemy. I had to learn how to defend myself and push-back with my own will towards people like this. I still attract people like this into my life but it’s something I’ve learned to use as “rocket fuel” you see to stroke my will-Power and intent. I don’t hate anyone, and it would take me a century and a day to get angry with you, but I am always the first one to challenge you on your bullshit now and I absolutely thrive off people calling me out on mine, it’s how I correct and grow. I think for a lot of people this placement works out very negatively (and for me it did in terms of OUTWARD appearances) but I have grown exponentially from it and will continue to do so.
Stay strong, my friend!
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Great way of seeing life’s challenges and understanding how we can evolute from them. I also have Mars (10th house) square Pluto (7th house), and experienced bullying at school. Through a quantum leap (near death experience) I got reborn (Moon in Scorpio and in 8th house) and started perceiving life through a different perspective, with the help of meditation, yoga and a lot of self-knowledge.
Aww mate ☹️ we’re all in this together 🫂*bear hug*
I can relate to this a whole lot! Thank you for sharing your story, Michael.✨
I have this aspect .....As a young child I was exposed to violence , also violence was done to me .Bullying was also came into play ,I was verbally abused ,sexually assaulted and molested. I had fake friends that secretly didn't like me . I was always a sweet person but I always had a very bad temper .When ever I got into a fight with another individual , people gang up on me or pull weapons on me . I don't like this aspect ,I do call it "Don't Take Shit From No One " aspect it can be good in one way and horrible another. There's changes can be made ,just self work and taking boxing classes . Even though I don't like this aspect ,you can actually work on it
Che Williams i’m so sorry that shit happened to you :(
I have this aspect too and every you said resonated with me too
this just confirmed the boxing lessons
u are a Queen
Your a inspiration..
I have Mars square Pluto. I've always had a horrible temper, and I often am angry. I've learned to control it but the times I've allowed myself to "let go" I've scared even men who are much larger than me. Which has come in handy when needing to protect myself or others, but has been damaging to my life in times where it wasn't necessary to be aggressive/violent. Learning this about my chart makes so much sense. I've had a very violent life and have suffered all kinds of injuries as a result of violence ranging from concussions to knocked out teeth, so my body is kind of "always ready" for more violence. Any little thing that happens I get this massive adrenaline rush that most people would only get in some type of serious life threatening situation, then I have to fight with every fibre of my being to contain my anger, and it's just an extremely draining cycle to deal with on a never-ending basis. But now knowing the reason behind it maybe I can work to master it and use it for something positive.
I have Pluto square mars and had an oppressive violent father and like you I am working at mastering it
I also get an extreme adrenaline rush at the slightest hint of conflict. This placement makes me scared of myself but I know I can overcome the challenges it presents.
Omg same on the adrenaline rush from just the thought
You're not as scary as you may think. Perhaps, you haven't met a person, like me, yet, so don't think that you are that intimidating.
@@Michael-gs8og tf
I have the square. The 4 thumbs down didn't make any sense to me. Completely Spot on.
Just one thing to add. The world reflects me, if I keep walking around thinking that the world is at war with me, everywhere I go, there will be war.
However, we can overcome this BS.
simply use our energy to evolve beyond the square. I.e. use our energy (Mars) to dig, find, evolve (Pluto) the right things.
Yes. Consciousness, well said. And then, do lots of yoga
+Lex , Just Lex I like you.
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Most likely just people who didn't want to hear the dark side of this aspect. Some people don't want to hear anything negative about their chart. They're just not ready, I guess. I don't know. For me, it was very eye-opening when I started to study my chart and has helped me start to address certain personality weaknesses.
Definitely confirming the energy aspect, I've noticed that when I just cool it everyone comes at me cooler, I need the meditation side because I flip extremely quick and loose my mind.
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So accurate on why I hate myself for others because of this aspect.
My father and I have this aspect. He was so irritating, hot-headed, manipulative person. He once tried and hurt me that made me cried that time. I never like his attitude towards me, but I realized it may be a warning for me and pay attention to this anger issues.
Having this is kinda like an ADHD kid who have anger issues that is easily bullied. I do believe one of my schoolmates before have this, and it’s very loosing for that person.
If you have this aspect you should love this. Why? It makes you powerful and very, very conscious of everything (always right by being defensive). But beware, you need to use this anger for logical purposes for DEFENDING yourself. If you have to be violent, be violent. If you need to be angry at the right time BE ANGRY. Pluto teaches the intensity of the soldier (Mars) itself. It teaches us how to be defensive, powerful, logical, and independent. I do believe having this aspect in a good and right way are very attractive and powerful people.
You need to forgive yourself and for that person from this anger. As a woman, I cry a lot because I feel bothered and offended. I always hide because I know I can be angry at any day. It’s why I always isolate myself for that.
I learned that in order to avoid it is by smiling and laughing. If it’s fun, it’s fun. I have to learn what fun is. I never really love this aspect, but I do believe it’s powerful for people to defend someone else. It’s why they love me, and my enemies are jealous. I reasoned it with logic, facts, and happy attitude. I learned to be calm by being soft-spoken and patient. If I feel offended or bothered I create an excuse and go outside to get some air. If I feel angry I let everyone know I need space. Or tell them, “Hey, I’m sorry but uh, I feel offended when you say that to me.” But I keep myself cool at them.
I believe it’s a good placement. I am happy with it and embrace the fact I’m very defensive and sensitive. And having this aspect makes you in the highest position, because as a soldier, you know how to use power.
Such great insight you have, which is quite remarkable consdering what an intensely narcissistic aspect this can be. Good for you for learning from your father (who you said also had this aspect), and choosing to counter the negative, manipulative behavior which is so indicitive of Mars square Pluto. You could have either embraced the same destructive ideology of your father or rejected the negative aspects of this aspect altogether (no pun intended lol), and you CHOSE the intelligent and wise approach, which is NO EASY FEAT considering you have a double whammy; that being this powerful and difficult aspect in your chart, AND a father who had it as well, acted out it's worst characteristics, and therefore demonstrated terrible behavior. This aspect does not typically lend itself to insight, self reflection or personal accountability, so I really think its incredible that you've managed all three, and did not allow yourself to embody the egomania and destructive qualities so often seen with this placement.
Same outlook and thanks for sharing this information.
This explains a lot...Aspects are so much more influential than placements my Mars is in Pisces but i love confrontation ,arguing and taking risks i'm always ready for a fight haha
This is my best friend’s aspect too 😭 he’s always ready to throw hands
Me too!
So true to how I have noticed about my Mars in Scorpio square Pluto in the 8th. Being molested and raped at 13 is the early experience you speak of. I don’t have a problem with anger outbursts. I noticed that I have difficulty seeing hostility in others and have trouble recognizing when I’m steamrolling someone. I’m really not paranoid. I sometimes have conflict but it’s unusual. I did experience sexual aggression a lot as young thing. I used to be paranoid because of sexual violence. I’m really not anymore. I worked at a Rape Crisis Center for several years, channeling this energy.
WAIT BUT IM ALWAYS ANGRY WHEN IM WITH MY FAMILY ONLY BUT DIFFERENT WITH OTHERS OUTSIDE MY FAMILY FOR SOME REASON
Same
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I have read/heard before that people with this placement have usually experienced some sort of physical or sexual assault, sometimes at an early age. Have you found this to be true? I have the square, and have had that experience (actually a few times).
I definitely think this has prompted much of my defensiveness, which I agree is a problem I need to work on. I don't really express anger and violence directly- chiron conjunct mars I think creates some blockage here- but I certainly am constantly weary that other people might become violent, and try and be prepared for it. It is quite exhausting. Especially because I also have venus square neptune so my perceptions in personal relationships can be a bit off also.
It is very difficult to not be defensive when the world keeps giving you reasons to be, especially if these started in childhood or adolescence. It mostly comes down to fear... I think there is a lot of fear in this placement. The Mars is very unsettled and afraid of the Pluto and the Pluto reacts with more frenzied and extreme cyclical patterns, which gives the mars more to be afraid of. Perfect recipe for paranoia...!
I have my Mars squaring my Pluto too, but even more exact squaring my Uranus and Chiron (Mars in the middle of a T-Square). I experienced a lot of sexual, emotional and mental assault as a child and it took me a long time to handle my aggresions in a constructive way. Looking back I also understand that my strong aggressiveness saved me in many situations with perpetrators. There are a lot of researches about people who surpress righteous anger and people who live their aggressions. The people who surpressed righteous anger often got cancer or depressions and the people who lived their righteous anger were building a strong immune system (for example in studies with HIV patients).
I always say Yoga saved my life. Through Yoga and meditaion I learned to deal with my Mars in a constructive way. Also dancing and creativity helped me a lot.
ps: I maybe should add that in my case it was part of my Karma to be a fighter, because my Mars in Sag in trining my North Node in Aries and my Jupiter in Leo. So I had to learn to use aggressions in a positive way. It really always depends on the whole chart.
Yes. I was abused for the first 4 years of my life but since then I've had a normal life when my grandmother took custody of me. I don't ever get aggressive because it I have this weird fear that if I hit or hurt anyone, I'll be like my abuser. Even just rough housing as a kid made me feel guilty. I also have Pisces moon conjunct Saturn. I also have Mars on the top of my T-square with sun and Pluto opposing each other.
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I didn't have much violence..that I can remember; but I did go through a very very tough time with my mother. She was extremely manipulative and constantly tried to control me. She got in between me and everything I did, and every time she did I got more and more angry. She was literally on top of me. Now, sometimes if people are simply observing me when I'm doing something stressful, I get irritated by their presence and stares. I know it's not their fault, but in those moments people just seem so meddling and advantageous. This whole thing feels like Japanese finger cuffs, and if you tell me to calm down, I get worse, and the worse it becomes. It's true, the only way to get out of this, is to think above it. I do my best to be alone and listen to stuff like this, because I can't bare some asshole telling me me what to do, I'd rather figure it out for myself lol Being a Scorpio ascendant, I think this whole thing may be even worse. Sometimes people look at me with huge eyes lol I find it interesting that it was my mother who was the culprit though..because I'm pretty sure this aspect points to males. I never had a male presence in the home, she kind of acts like a man though lol
Do i hear a cat snoring on the background?
I thought that, too. So relaxing....
You offer solutions to or approaches to square and oppositions and that’s an element that makes your videos unique. Thank you so much for this. You have no idea the answers you just gave me about my own identity being perceived. 💙💙💙
+Emily Green I’m glad you took it well. 💓💓💓
Some famous people with mars square, inconjunct, conjunct, opposite Pluto: Mohammed Ali. Michael Jordan, Dave Chappelle, Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry, Mel Gibson, Bruce Lee. Kobe Bryant. Charles Barkley, Joe Frazier. I have a very tight square too. Aquarius mars. Scorpio Pluto. This is a very healing and transformational energy to have, but it demands that you evolve. Fast. If you have this energy please don't self hate but direct the energy towards your goals. Never repress it or delude yourself into thinking you are not competitive. By nature, you are a fighter! But fight for a good cause!! God bless!!!
Yes growing up, my oldest brother was very violent and used to verbally abuse me. I was always getting yelled at by him!
Honestly, I wish I can kick my oldest brother ass for this and my pos dad. Unfortunately, I took it out on my moms and she hates me. I wish for her to forgive me and embrace me.
My brother would purposely make me angry and made fun of me for it, but it was abusive and gaslighting. :/
Being "right" tricks them into believing they're happy. They need to mature
Aspects like these arent an issue for a professional Dominatrix. They're actually an asset. And theres a purpose for ppl like this because there are ppl who seek them out and can be a form of therapy for those looking for such a dominant personality to offset their more submissive(sometimes secretly submissive) one. Balance is the key. Theres a time and place for certain behaviors.
My stepfather has this aspect, he was VERY difficult to live with, a real energy vampire. He is terribly passive aggressive, fiercely competitive and has a very fragile ego and is defensive - it’s very draining to be around. He’s never been in therapy and has no self awareness at all - a very difficult person.
I have mars square Pluto, and this video resonates as true for me. It was very hard to hear and I had to stop and pause it and come back to it. It’s taken me such a long time to be open and vulnerable because I have been taken advantage of when I let my guard down. Compassion for myself and others has been my biggest ally in combating this natural tendency. And just being alone or around people who truly love me and don’t get on my nerves. I call them soul tribe.
A lot of people at my job were afraid of me because I blew up once. I have Mars in Virgo (1st house) square Pluto in Scorpio (4th house).
I explode when I believe things are stupid and out of order, unpleasant behavior or words really erk me.
I can always sense danger.....well before there is any known threat. My family thinks I'm paranoid sometimes because of my suspicions but I can tell you that I usually am right.
also I receive strong reactions from people because I guess they can sense this energy...idk. but thanks for the video 😄.
Yes! I'm a Leo rising and once I feel that jolt of my Mars in my first house.....Oooo watch out! Lol!
Mars square Pluto,moon,Jupiter. Opposes my Saturn. Trines sun and mercury.
I have this aspect as well. One time my friend has saw me mad once and told me it was scary, but most of time I’m always battling myself and I want that to change.
Its funny cuz now I have moved on to vedic astrology. So in that I have mars in Leo square Pluto in scorpio. I would say that I've moved on from western astrology. I prefer the vedic chart. Now I'm a Cancer rising. Uranus in 7th house- can explain part of what I said previously.
@@MilaniHoward20 lol I have that same square- (Mars in Leo and Pluto in Scorpio) but in western astrology.
Omg we can sense danger I never paid attention to that 💁🏻 it’s so true.
This is so accurate OMG! I have Aqua Mars square Pluto along with a Libra moon trine Mars and I would always get in trouble at school for being so ready to fight bullies even if I wasn't their target. Ultimately it made me the biggest target and I got hurt, but this placement has made me stronger for it and now I know how to defend myself and others in a more strategic manner!! Not a bad placement at all once you evolve it.
Well, it's very difficult for me to recognize that I have this kind of violence in me, because most of the time I'm very peaceful and somewhat caring (cancer rising, with Jupiter conjunct to the ascendent).
But that's true, I'm always mentally prepared for a fight, but not in a physical way, most in a mental way, trying to find the weaknesses of the other just by looking at him (my moon VI and pluto V are in scorpio, square to Mars IX in Aquarius).
But even if I know all his weaknesses and secrets, I'm never going to hurt him with this knowledge, I just can't.
And yes, I have a very strong ego, even if I most of the people see me as someone very humble, but I'm not.
Agree 100%. I have Taurus rising with Jupiter conjunct my ascendant. I don't go looking for a fight but its usually brought to me. If that's what you're looking for, then I'll give it to you in a smart and civil way as much as I can.
As a Taurus rising, it takes a lot to piss me off. But if you keep pushing and proding me like a Bear, I will give you what you came for and more.
My Mars is in Aquarius conjunct MC square Pluto conjunct my Scorpio descendant. How's that for trouble/problems all the time and at work?. I have actually learnt to STOP being meek/doormat and fight for what is right when appropriate. That way, people will never mess with YOU!
Mars in Aquarius here too! I appreciate both your remarks. Its difficult for me to relate to an inner rage-- but, I'm ready if it goes that far. I like to say, "I can handle this like Oprah and will prefer it but, i can go to war if need be."
I think we're lucky for a laid back Mars bc this sounds very pugilistic and debilitating. ...i just want my boundaries to be respected as I respect others.
My mars in aquarius squares my pluto in scorpio, my outside exterior is a smile while conversing and what not, meanwhile directly under the veil my sag fire Taurus ascendant is calculating and planning the fastest way to completely and utterly smash whomever may look like they want it. I realize now though it's just me creating my owne strife in an attempt to prove to myself what I'm made of because I was to small to do it when the child was forced out of me.
I wonder because my mars is also in aquarius but my rage pool is bubbling right below you can probably see it in my eyes.
Edit: I see you have your moon in scorpio as well, mine is leo but I have my venus in scorpio with pluto, almost like venus and pluto teaming up against my Mars...
you sound like an infj am i right?
You are excellent. Wish society finally realized the value of astrology as you, for example, could be invaluable as a therapist in an absolutely mainstream mental health venue.
It's by design ...you can't have a strong informed population. You can't rule over them.
I agree this is a very unconscious aspect that I have, I see it come out mostly when I drink too much. Becoming aware of this has benefited me so much. Good thing for my rising pisces because it softens my whole existence :) love your videos they are so insightful Thank you
Jewels, can't thank you enough. with sun square pluto, moon square pluto, mars square pluto, asc conjunct pluto... been tough. Currently in therapy and healing my anger. My anger was not allowed a safe expression so it went inwards and turned into shame. I am soooo defensive now haha. You opened my eyes to the fact, i do give off this energy, so maybe i need to relax the pitch forks and soften those edges. cheers
Are you a scorpio ascendant?
@@Michael-gs8og yes, was it that obvious?
@@cb1ification Yes, it was that obvious, lol. You looked a little intense.
@@Michael-gs8og 😂 👏 top marks for you
I dont agree with some of this as i feel some people can just pick up that we are fighters and stand up and get angry. Pathological people feed off of emotions like anger so they readily provoke. Its happened tons to me that people make off handed comments or gossip to provoke. Key is learning to be neutral to the trolls lol
Your words are so thought-provoking and therapeutic. Thank you for sharing, I really needed this. We always need a reminder to keep ourselves in check and your videos totally do that for me! :)
I have a Pisces Mars Square Pluto in Scorpio . Very close orb. I was verbally abused / taunted several times through out my life. And I often felt my hands were tied. I wanted to act; but I am very cautious and always worried about potential consequences/retaliation. Might be due to my Mars conjunct Saturn. Well as a result of having to keep all of the anger repressed I now have a very short fuse and can get pissed off very quickly . When I was younger I was more of a pacifist but ever since I’ve had to tolerate so much mistreatment I changed quite a bit. Physical violence is natural to me. I would never harm an innocent person; but I would love to destroy bad people.
Best interpretation yet. I have this; Pluto at MC squaring Mars in Sag. I usually see the prickly aspect emphasized, the unconscious embodiment of Pluto sq Mars. As a 55 year old yoga teacher, meditator, I'm happy to see that Jewel also brings out the other side. Once I see that I don't need blame as my food, or to be 'right' for my ego to feel ok, once I tap into other sources of fulfillment, a great energy and focus in life can evolve. Please don't be discouraged if you have this aspect. There are ways to work with it. Each aspect brings a gift.
I’ve definitely experienced this square more mildly throughout my life. I would say I’m pretty “sharp” with my words. I know exactly what to say to get my point across and have little remorse about how a person feels when I say it, because typically what I’m saying I feel is just an honest representation of something I feel the person needs to hear. This can also be done more aggressively in arguments (more-so in my earlier years). But I will say that I grew up with an emotionally/mentally abusive father and a mother that was arguably easily triggered into extreme rages that she could hardly control. Despite growing up around some violence, physical violence has always triggered deeper, darker feelings inside of me. If someone I love lays a hand on me, even more so. It takes a while for me to come back from it. Definitely more-so than anything mentally abusive might.
You are not as powerful as you may think that you are. I have mars/saturn opposition and I can really tame you down, if I have to. Saturn is more powerful, than pluto.
@@Michael-gs8og I'm not claiming to be powerful or more powerful than any one person. I'm comparing my personal experiences with the content described in the video. Perhaps you are right about what you've said. Perhaps you aren't as well. There are a lot more factors in a person's birth chart to consider before you can make a claim about how the energy will manifest itself within you versus the energies at play within someone else.
This was really informative! I have Pluto in Scorpio (12th house) square Mars in Aquarius, and I'm also Scorpio Ascendant (29th degree), so this aspect has troubled me a lot over the years. What I must admit, that it truly gives defensive attitude and ego problems. But, once when you determine to let go of the ego, ultimate need to be right and anger which is primarily anger towards yourself (although this is usually subconscious) you can heal this aspect quite nicely :)
Big hugs if this is in your chart, it is not easy... I have Leo mars square pluto. It can create a lot of misunderstandings and pain. I've learned that underneath the combativeness and defensiveness is deep pain, fear, and shame. And that pain usually manifests very quickly in a physical/aggressive way. Meditation has helped me, boxing, martial arts, smashing glass, lifting heavy things, and silent retreats also helped. You may be on guard for others to take advantage of you, or be violent or abusive, because that is something you have experienced in the past. That defensiveness may have even helped you survive in the past. It was helpful for me to thank that combative/defensive part and let it know it is safe and we can be at peace.
Have compassion for things you have been through, and understand it is a cycle. Those who originally hurt you most likely also have a deep seed of pain, fear, and shame and perpetuated violence and abuse. But that does not have to be you, self-compassion and empowering yourself and others is key. Big, bugs hugs to you astro friends!!!
I just broke up with someone with this aspect and wow this is so accurate
Ok but did u listen and watch the video all the way thru?....
I’ve seen this video back to back I’ve seen it why would u question someone that ??
Horrible temper/anger issues. Will lash out at you. Bad to be in a relationship with. Definitely passionate, but be very careful.
Yes I am in a such a better place since leaving this person
My new puppy is teaching me a lot about forgiveness, understanding and patience. I don't take his bites personally and am seeing how maybe I shouldn't take other people's "bites" so personally. Still say no and uphold my boundaries but without holding a grudge or shunning them entirely. That's the idea anyway. Will see how it follows through :p ....
I was born with Mars in Cancer square Pluto on the midheaven. 40 years later, Pluto is about to cross my Ascendent. So probably time to confront these issues poignantly summarised in this video. They've really been crippling.
.... And I just realised the Sun is conjunction my Mars today. Timely, indeed lol ....
Is there a Mars trine Uranus video? I have this aspect precise to the minute. Thankfully, much tighter than the Pluto square. Yet, smooth as trines can be, I don't notice its effects nearly so much.
I have this aspect and it's not how I come across that makes people come at me negatively , I have had family members and friends do horrible things to me so now I do not trust anyone very easily. Is it possible that my Pluto sun aspects influences my experiences with people and causes them to be jealous and hateful?
My Mother has this and she is an aggressive witch. Not fit to be Maternal at all. And she says my Grandfather, her Father would beat her Brothers often. But he never beats the girls, but she heard it and was a afraid of it. She also has mars in scorpio, she is SO jealous of me and competed with me all her life. I didnt have children because I had such a horrible experience with my own mother.I also dated a guy with this aspect and he did have the issues with employers, jealous of their success and would steal from them because he felt it was justified!
It was so helpful❤️❤️ I was already very aware of how I perceive anger everywhere, but seeing it i my chart, helps me believe that it’s only my perception, and that it is something I can work through. Thank you so so much for the interpretation❤️❤️❤️
Dont victim blame miss! I almost got killed and still haunted. Its not my fault!
My friend has this and he plays in the nfl. Interesting.
Look at the famous people who have this. A lot of combat sports and other athletes have this. A good way to vent it, if you ask me.
Thank you for doing this interpretation. I really appreciate your wisdom and compassion. Im at the time in life where i am seeing my aggressive defensive attitude and thats the beginning of the change.
i even told them this that they are the main source of the issues we had and it was almost a narcissist character
Jesus christ I needed this
Perhaps one of the best videos on this topic
Moon conjunct Mars (Cancer) squaring Saturn conjunct Pluto (the Mars-Pluto square is 1.7 degrees). It's not easy, I'll tell you that. It is by far the most challenging aspect (set of aspects, in this case) I have in my chart. I don't have problems with competition at work but it most definitely impacts my close relationships with family and loved ones. In my case, I think maybe because Mars is in fall in Cancer, I can shift between passive aggressiveness and defensive behavior, which is the default position of my temper, to a full-blown verbal outburst where I just blow up. I'm getting older and I'm learning how to properly channel my anger, but I still take others (and myself) off guard if something really breaches my limit. Sometimes, however, people will tell me I'm coming off aggressively (when I'm not even angry) and I don't even notice it. It's taking a lot of effort and a lot of self awareness to address.
I can relate to this!!! This is one reason why I isolate myself a lot!
My father has never been violent but he did give me the beaten of my life when I was around 5 and it will never be forgotten lol. My mom’s a Scorpio (Pluto figure) I gave her a hard time when I was in school I had a lot of emotional outbursts. My brother was violent in his early teen years he’s also a Scorpio.
Um your dad has been violent. Just sayin'. Your brother probably learned from your dad. Beatings don't happen just once, and even once can be too much. Its important to see the truth and not sugar coat our experiences if we want healing to begin.
I have to agree with the dad beating part but this happened to me at 12-13
@@kristi1949i was only beat by my dad like 3 times. Sometimes it really doesnt happen that often. Usually an over frustrated (stressed) parent and a kid having a bad misbehaving day.
Not saying its okay. I never condone any aggression towards children BUT i dont think id label my dad as aggressive just because he beat me a couple times.
I have mars conjunct the moon in cancer where mars does not like to be (and moon does) on the end of cancer (almost leo) and square to pluto in libra. Someone wrote about it having it in his/her chart that it's like the ultimate freeze. And it can literally (or physically!) freeze one's body as well.
I was a bit of a bully, tomboy and always ina fight with the boys up until I stopped growing. I totally enjoyed martial arts in my 20's and would have like to do this in my younger days.
I have this. But also mars trine Uranus, mars conjunct sun in capricorn. I feel I control this power pretty well, never fight with anyone physically in my life.
*EXTREMELY* accurate! Well done and thank you very much!
Scorpio rising Mars in Pisces and Pluto in Sagittarius, this aspect hits hard
It's all true. I have Mars-Pluto square in my chart. And sometimes I'm thinking "I'm the most angry human in the world right now." Hahahahaha 😂😂😂
No, you're not that angry, I'm sure. Mars/Saturn is more powerful than mars/pluto.
Don't try to our anger me mfer
im self aware. Between progressive relaxation, mindfulness Im good. I struggle when theres a transits hitting that aspect though.
I have this aspect, but with my Mars in Gemini retrograde, Pluto in Virgo in 5th house. My father was a Korean war vet, with undiagnosed PTSD, and very violent and self-destructive. Fortunately my mother divorced him when I was 5 or 6. I actually have difficulty asserting my will and ego at times; I'm extremely passionate about all things connected to educating and awakening women/girls about the misogynistic/violent culture that we live in. I have honed my warrior skills over the years and consider myself to be a passionate advocate for justice, truth, and cutting through bullshit! (Libra Sun/Scorpio Moon). That does get a little intense for people sometimes, but I think the world needs its share of dedicated, balanced warriors! I also have a male family member with this one, Mars in 12th house, Pluto/Uranus conj, in 3rd house; he is a covert narcissist and extremely controlling. His violence is delivered via his mental/emotional control skills he has mastered. Just another story to add to your research on the subject. Thanks Jewel for your great videos!
Ninja of Eris wow we have the exact same story. I feel myself protecting kids to an extreme.
Ninja of Eris - I'm the same as you, Mars in Gemini square Pluto in Virgo (moon in Libra rather than sun, that's in Cancer) and I can really relate! I had a very critical and angry father (was also sexually assaulted as a kid and my 1st husband was a violent drunk) I'm passionate about these same issues in our society, and I've always been a strong advocate for women. The trouble is so much of my rage becomes inverted and becomes depression - which I think is another problem with this awful aspect.
The problem with Pluto in my case is, it aspects 7 or 8 planets and the ascendant. Hard aspects mostly. So when something goes wrong it's kinda hard to tell which one did me in this time.
Can you please do a natal mars opposition Pluto ?
I have mars in Leo in 8th house square Pluto I'm not sure if I'm that angry
lol my boyfriend and I BOTH have this in our birth charts. I call it "The Hulk" aspect. We have this in synastry too. Hes Mars and im Pluto. (im also Pluto with my mother)
Its basically just a sky high defense system when feeling attacked or misunderstood. Ready at a moment's notice to argue or fight if the right buttons are pushed. Its not arrogance, its purely defensiveness. It can make others afraid because in that moment our fear is 0% and retaliation is 100%. Its all Mars defensive stance
👩🏾🦱 Ive actually never been in a physical fight and rarely get boiling angry. Usually my tone alone makes people take a step back. There's only been 2 occasions where I was getting amped up and it shocked my loved ones/friends so they instinctively held me back. If I, the chill peacekeeper stands up to raise my fist ....its not to injure unfortunately. If we get our buttons pushed, people view us as abrasive or threatening. (Mars rules 1st house so our mannerisms in that moment appear aggressive and domineering). Pluto and Ceres are the only squares to my Mars. With Ceres i just try to rush to people's help whether they want it or not. Ive learned to ask first and not take things personal.
🧔🏽My boyfriend is a bit more complex. He has Pluto square Mars and then Mars conjunct Moon & Chiron. So that makes him emotionally driven and insecure. Then to top it off theres a Mars opposite Saturn who doesnt like being challenged by authority or told what to do. Thankfully he's aware of his anger struggles and works on them. So he's pretty chill with me.
🧍🏽♂️Boyfriend and Me 🧍🏾♀️ : Our relationship has never gotten abusive or physical or threatening. Our families say we've met our match. 🥴😄 In a way we kinda cancel the mars square pluto synastry out because we both are familiar with this part of ourselves. We rarely argue, if we do we just kinda seperate for a bit. Or if theres an attitude we dont get as nervous as people who dont have this aspect because we understand what lies underneath. Our code word is "chill" then we just do some handholding and move on. The energy of the square occured far less often than typical. We can be unaware that we're coming off too aggressive sometimes so its not always a conscious thing. The person with the aspect would have to be highly aware and the partner would have to be un-phased and patient in order to get past it.
Mommy 🧑🏾🦱and Me👧🏾: However, with my mother in synastry, (Mars) she was overly jealous and would lash out impulsively. Pluto (me) has this underlining boss demeanor and she felt threatened by me for what i felt was no reason. I wanted to do what I wanted and felt she was controlling, so she'd go overboard in anger like instantly. I wasnt a bad kid at all i was a nerd. But she had this dream of what she wanted me to ne and I had something else entirely, so we'd clash. I never laid a hand on her to this day, she'd hit me on impulse if i told her no or tried to set boundaries. Shed get jealous and would lash out impulsively. Thats basically what the synastry aspect is, one person feels theyre being controlled and the other person gets VERY mad. Pluto has this underlining boss demeanor and she felt instantly threatened by me. (probably my underlying natal Mars square Pluto scared her so she took me as a threat even though i never touched or threatened her).
Hi Jewel would you please do Sun conjunct Pluto in the birth chart? You have helped me so much your interpretations are the best out of everyone out there! Thank you for your time and talent and wisdom!
Similar interpretation for Mars Opposite Pluto?
Mars square Pluto and I have an Aries moon.
My abusive ex had this placement. My, how the accusations and violence would fly. The things he would conjure up drove me absolutely crazy for the longest.
Yes, i can be so quick to anger. I regularly work to make not being an eggshell person. And, My mars is conjunct my ascendant and moon and saturn. I also have a stellium in Aries so...Mars is my chart ruler 😳 no wonder I have at times smoked copious amounts of weed lol. And yes, my anger has completely derailed my life several several times and now I see the pattern and im 46. Thank goodness, Ive been transforming my energy to be way more mindful and aware and it HAS required tons of self forgiveness. Thank you so much!!!
im midway through the vid and i wanted to complain that i do believe most ppl just awnt to see me weak and want me to be weak. if i drop the armor they will attack, and when they do, they will deny they did anything wrong or justify it by that i show anger. this is exactly what happens to victims of abuse who are hysterical about being hurt. god forbid i take precaution to defend myself
So true for me unfortunately but I'm working on it
Thank you :) Mars squared Pluto here!
Well, that explains your nude profile picture.
I have Mars conjunct Moon in Cancer and both square Pluto. I've been working on this for so long...I wonder, will I ever gonna come out on the "other side". There is an underground emotional wasteland I'm somehow energetically connected to, and sometimes it seems impossible to function in this life, on the surface level. I feel like I'm somewhat the collection bin for transgenerational issues. I would really like to find someone who can understand or relate because at times it feels like I'm just making this up and going crazy....
It really takes time! My friend has this aspect and I have the moon square Pluto and have recently done large amounts of self work and still too keep afloat but your days when it lifts and becomes lighter will come TRUST.
Thanks this helps a lot, I have mars in cancer square Pluto in libra.
Hi Jewel! How would you interpret mars OPPOSITE pluto?
for some reason, i’m becoming emotional watching this as i’m forcing myself to face myself instead of be so defensive. ah, and i have “used my sex drive in risky ways” as you put it...so interesting how much this aspect and my pluto square venus aspect too have played out in my life
You must have come a long way if you allowed yourself to hear it. This aspect does lend an ability to face hard stuff.
You are really tuned in!
I yelled at my boss and quit in a fit of anger a couple months ago ☠️ it didn’t help that he was an Aries sun too ☠️👹👹👹
Wow I’m at a loss for words how well you described me or I should say the aspect
i have sun, mars, and jupiter all square pluto o_o wish me luck in life y'all
Thank you, shocking but now I understand my self a bit better! I will certainly take note and work more on myself!
I have a friend with this aspect and the suit seems to come out whenever she is introduced to a new friend but somehow deep down she is so vulnerable the situation is funny and sad at the same time..
I have 12th house Virgo Pluto 29 Square Mars and Venus 3 Cancer which is opposite Jupiter 7 Capricorn. My eldest bro Sun conj my Pluto I always had to defend myself or fight back with him. My Sun 27 Taurus. So I’m a fighter but hate to be a fighter with Libra asc. Leo Moon. I fight for my life and for others . I treated my stomach with reiki for three month to make it strong. . Honestly I feel that I was unwanted by my mom but not my dad ,and had to fight for my life. It’s crazy but still feel unborn in a way but at the same time I appreciate being unconscious as it gives me access to knowledge beyond words and to see the power beyond matter.
Thanks for the videos Jewel 💎 every one I watch, I'm like, Jewel MUST have Virgo in her chart☝️ maybe some Aries...hard to read🙃
I'm a
Scorpio Pluto square Leo Mars here, I believe at 3°, and this is how it played out for me I guess:
Violent, aggressive, grandiose narcissistic father, who only took out his aggression on me, from before I could talk(my mom told me) till I was 16 and left "home".
Instances of seggsual* assault. Domestic abuse in most relationships; physical, emotional.
Attracted stalkers.
Growing up, other girls would automatically dislike/hate me (so I'd be a clown to be accepted...not for many years now though).
Attract a lot of opposite sex attention; men want to dominate or squash whatever it is they see in me, usually in a seggsual way.
Like other comments here I've read, I react to any hint of violence with being filled with adrenaline, it feels awful, but it does make you fearless. Never flight, especially when protecting others, which I cannot help but do. Its a curse. Also it takes a while to recover, totally drained after.
In my younger years I eventually experienced rage within me, against injustice, bullying or abuse. I would take for some time but eventually I exploded, verbally.
Since years now I have almost total control and all that manifests these days is a high libido and an intense but controlled sort of energy/aura. Basically like having a Mars in Scorpio.
It could be having a Capricorn moon but, I am quite shocked at how mentally strong I am considering my life experiences(things I won't mention on youtube), I know I must have some trauma or maybe even ptsd because I cannot be around my dad if i can help it, I feel extremely uneasy and it causes anxiety and I used to have many bad dreams about him. Very rarely those days though.
What else...
I'm a bit dark. Very empathetic, possibly too empathetic and soft on the inside but I'm not fluffy clouds, flowers and rainbows. I will cry alone, at things that cause me pain or at happy/sad animal videos etc, but *alone*.
It's kind of like warrior energy. Other than sharks and needles and the ocean lol, I'm not really afraid of anything. I mean I'm not so good with trust so that's a fear I guess but I mean physical threat.
I also have Pluto Square sun and trine Venus and I believe quintile moon but I'm not sure what the quintile means🤔
Thanks for covering this request ♡☆ excellent as always
i will say that i’m halfway through the video and some of this rings true. i’m a naturally high-energy person who is secretly always ready for the prospect of a fight and likes to be seen as strong, but im otherwise a very optimistic person who avoids confrontation (ive never been in a fight and i’m a huge cry baby-libra sun and scorpio moon haha). the ego thing doesn’t ring totally true as i don’t like flexing or purposefully trying to show off, but i do tend to take risks that allow me to show off physical ability or mental fortitude, so i suppose that’s me trying to show a stronger ego than i actually have. it’s always been s fact of life, however, that i stand up to other people more than i do myself, and even then i take a second to think before i do so-i think that’s saturn trine and being a virgo mars that makes my martian attitudes a lil more detached. i do see the world as naturally violent and i’m always intrinsically aware of how i’ll defend myself within it, but honestly i’m more interested in protecting others than myself with my natural prickly armor. and speaking of, people tend to peg me as a really nice person if not a little nuts (but i blame my uranus placements more)!
i had anger issues as a child, but maturity really allowed me to step back ever cultivate more patience and discernment in whether things are worth confrontation or an argument, which only adds to my lack of reaction to things otherwise. i’d rather laugh it off then ruminate on it angrily. outside of that, im honestly learning to confront things more, and wanting to be seen as strong is a reaction to being walked all over as a kid. i can assume that saturn trine my mars is doing me a huge favor in tempering an otherwise volatile possibility (im mostly scorpio, so a super charged mars ruling them all sounds scary)…but im still a younger adult, so maybe time will tell. perhaps there’s an angry elephant in me somewhere waiting to be unloaded :)
Hi, i got Mars in Pisces Sesquiquadrate Pluto in scorpio with -0,10 degree almost exactly, i feel it so strong sometimes it scares me.. i also got Mars square Saturn, Uranus and Mercury which form a loose t square, all with a sextile to Jupiter and my ascendant, despite my Mars in Pisces, i can be very intimidating..
I think I only feel this placement with family. With the rest of the world I am much more relaxed and happy go lucky and generally trusting. Very little trust with family members and alot of anger toward family members. Mine is sun conjunct pluto conjunct IC square to mars. Family are the people I fear the most. I got quite a few harsh beatings as a kid and witnessed quite a few harsh beatings as well as alot of verbal tearing down and public humiliation from family when I was a kid.
♉ Mars in ♉ ,Sun and Mars Square Pluto. ♊ 🌙.,in Venus. Mercury and Jupiter in ♈.
Thanks for the vídeo!!! It was great!! I have this aspect, mars (6 house sagitario) and (pluto 3 house virgo) I fight with myself all the time. I feel most of the time like Owlferein said.
I have venus square pluto and he has mars square pluto... lmao, definitely a button pusher
Julian Davis Try Venus,Mars and Jupiter square Pluto.
I have aspect and I am very nice as I know from people around me but I get complicated when I get close to people or they get close to me. I also have hard time forgetting and forgiving things and that does makes everything so complicated, I just want to forget sometimes but people who betrayed or wronged me makes me vomit, I want to vomit if I hear,see or get in contact with this people. This is how much we can hate.
My daughter has this aspect with mars in aries 12th house square pluto in capricorn 9th house. She has a huge temper and blows up towards me often. I can see tendencies to abusive relationships (i hate you/i love you) and this worries me so much. Im trying to help her now so that she can learn to manage her anger. As a mother i suffer seeing her go through this and cant seem to reason with her. Help!
That's her mars in aries That's causing the huge temper.
Guilty as F*ck. Me and my Bosses are in a competition. I am the spiked armour suit guy.
So I need to change my approach. The enemy is within and perception is lying too you. Getting taking advantage is huge fear.
Become conscious of my unconscious.
This aspect seems very similar to pluto in the first house (especially conjunct the ascendant) especially when you mentioned demeanour. It would make sense because the first house is the house of aries (ruled by mars) and pluto sitting in it would make it similar to mars/pluto aspects.
I have mars in leo square pluto in scorpio and I would definitely say that a lot of that relates to me. I wonder if you could make a video on pluto in the first or conjunct the ascendant because this one was really good. I am very impressed with the content you are providing for us.
In addition to having pluto in the first house conjunct my ascendant, I also have pluto square venus and pluto square jupiter. Pluto also trines my sun and moon so it's always a pleasure to see more pluto information out there on the web.
I have this at exact 0°
Mars in the 6th conj sun and pluto in 9th. More interesting is that my groom asteroid is conj my pluto exactly at 0° like is that a hint for abuse from my fs? 😭
Having Mars square pluto(orb. 0.47.with Mars in the 1st and pluto in the 10th aswell as conjunct my mercy in the 10th and pluto very tight orb.0.50 is crazy asf
Omg this explains so much. Consciously I usually realize the others are not out to get me or being dishonest... but that leaves me a prickly pair... its bad. Its to the point that I think I am a jinx.. my energy is disruptive..unconsciously, more so because my mars in Cancer is in the 12th house :( plus Aries is my chart ruler :/
My daughter has this placement
Mars in Aries 18degrees 2nd house
Pluto in Capricorn 23degrees 12th house
With all your comments I am getting scared 😂😭
Anyone with positive experience with this placement ?
I am attracted way to often to guys with this aspect.
Will you explain the opposition of mars and pluto next time?.. Must have been hard to have squair!
lol the cat kkrrkrrr so funny.
Thank you, I've always wondered about this. Can you also cover Mars trine Pluto?
+lots of people are asking after a Mars trine Pluto video. ShadySamurai I will get to it soon.
+Jewel Mayberry Awesome! Thank you ^_^
+Jewel Mayberry Awesome! I look forward to it, thank you ^_^
I have this placement. Mars is in the 1st house with Saturn and Venus all in the sign of Aquarius. I have a Pluto in Scorpio in the 10th. I've never felt aggressive until my Saturn return and it scared the crap out of me because I didn't know I had that much fire in me. I'd like to talk about this placement with you if at all possible.
I am more emotionally aggressive and single-minded with this placement. Not so much in the world. My Mars is in Cancer.
Interesting. Do you have a Mars trine Pluto video?
Is it generally the same with the opposition?
How is the Mars opposite Pluto different? How does one trascend that aspect?