A77ii with Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 High Speed
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I have not been really happy with my Sony A77 or A77ii ... until NOW. WOW! I finally found a combination that I can afford that can produce AMAZING images and focus fast and accurately. This is the combination I had hoped for when I lay down a couple grand.
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Thanks for watching. Let me know if I am wrong about something or if you want to know anything else about the camera or lens.
My 2X teleconverter image comparison tests here.
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Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 HS lens specs and reviews here
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This is now my complete go-to kit: A77ii, Sony 16-50 2.8 and the Minolta 80-200 2.8 APO HS. Amazing combination, and incredible quality even at 2.8. I've used the 80-200 on my A700 too and it was incredible. Built like a tank (it actually ripped the mount off my A700 when I dropped it - lens was fine though!) and really pretty heavy. I'm still trying to work out the best Track Duration setting though, I'm still not sure which one is best, but you're right, it's not 'Mid'! As this is a fantastic sports lens, the focus limiter is amazing with it. I had to shoot through a spectator net at a volleyball tournament recently, and with the limiter I was able to still use auto focus. When I also shot with manual focus though, the focus peaking was the next best thing ever - I have no idea how any other system shoots sports with manual focus without the peaking (well, I do, but this is way better!). It is a great combo, well done!
I do also have a 2x teleconverter, it may even be the exact one you have (actually, it's the Vivitar Series 1). I've found that while I CAN get some amazing shots with it, the number of sharp and correctly focussed images is a lot lower than without, and with the 24 megapixels I can often get just as good a result by cropping. I'm still working with it though. Once I start shooting with a monopod that may make a difference, but your point about the SSS is one I hadn't thought of - I'll be trying with it turned off this weekend!
As for fringing though, I've found it to be fairly severe, and much worse with the teleconverter, but that's when pixel-peeping. Lightroom has some fantastic tools to get rid of it though, so I'm way past worrying about it. Thanks for posting, nice job!
You did the right thing to get rid of the Sigma lens, the optics are great but the mechanics if the lens leave a lot to be desired. Many many moons ago had my own camera shop & even the camera reps for Sigma admitted that because of lack of spares they had to canabilise new lenses to repair customers faulty ones. Too many people ignore Sony cameras which is such a shame, I've been a fan of Minolta (now Sony) all of my photographic life, the cameras & lenses are superb, I wouldn't change the marque for anything (maybe for a Lumix G9) but there I am 73.
i have this lens and camera body and this 20 year old PLUS lens blows away the latest competition. this lens is very very very fast coupled with a very very very accurate auto focusing system...
I have been using this lens on my Sony a 550 and the image quality and colours are truly amazing. I have been considering buying a second hand Sony a 99 to see the results on full frame.
I´m an old minolta guy and use the 80-200 f2.8 apo g on my a99. Works fantastic.
Today arrived the lens, it's basically like new, even the steel smells and the rubber reeks like new car tires, there's not a single paint scratch. I tested it and it's stupid sharp from 2.8 to 22, and the autofocus is so accurate and feeling the torque really gives it an organic experience (plus I don't need to cope with the "ultrasonic autofocus" modern lenses have, it hurts my hearing especially Sony and Sigma SSM lenses)
You sir have now experienced the "Minolta colors" and what it means. I too have this setup, only with the 200mm 2.8 HS prime. With the Mark II's AF limit feature, one can dial in a bracketed distance further speeding up the already fast AF speed. Be sure to get the 2nd gen. 2x or 1.4 x TC to maintain the HS focus gearing.
Other lenses: We advise you to do some color grading after the takes
Minolta: We've ensured we achieve the same warm green color palette common to most human eyes
Thanks for a great review. I've just ordered the same lens for my A77ii on the strength of this. Your vid shows exactly what I want and on a lens that I wasn't even considering. On its way from Japan at the moment but I have high hopes it will perform. Thanks for making the video - very helpful. Cheers.
Thank you for this video. I have bought same set in 2020! Sony a77ii for 550€, tamron converter 50€, minolta 80-200 apo g 490€. Got it a bit cheaper I guess after 5 years! :D
But I also have EA4 adapter I use on A7S and A6400, sports photos with EA4 dont make sense. The AF speed of EA4 is behind A77ii, but for portraits and street its fine. I got the A77ii after the EA4 adapter and when I tested the Minolta lens with camera, it felt like the adapter on steroids! :D Native lens system is the best for AF speed.
Recommended now people buy ea5 and a6600. I sold a77ii and selling ea4, a6600 and ea5 with sensor phase autofocus is superior to everything. You will even have eye af.
@@vads4683 Good info! Thanks!
@@gundamaction1201 also ea5 is great for old af zoom lenses as on sensor af module focuses better in all zoom ranges. Old af module had to be calibrated for every lens and different zoom meant different setting at times. So ea5 is the way to go, I now have a7riva :).
@@vads4683 agreed! I am using the EA5 with a7iv with the Minolta 80-200 f2.8, and 100-300 apo and the auto focus works brilliantly!
Minolta 80-200 is still focusing furiously even in A77II, WOW
oh boy this is the lens that unleashes the beast that is the Sony A77II. So far the only lens I got that nails and tracks constantly is the tamron 272E 90mm macro, can't wait to get this bargain for 360 bucks!
Great review! I've been looking for a SONY 70-200MM F/2.8 G SSM but the used prices are still really high. Was also interested in this older Minolta version and found this review very informative. Most of the functionality (focus limiter, manual focus switch, etc.) will be similar to the A77II when used on my A99. Currently I'm using a Minolta 70-210 F4 which is a pretty good lens but wanted something better. Love the look of the old Minolta lenses and especially this one (MINOLTA 80-200MM F/2.8 APO G HIGH SPEED). Thanks for sharing this review, great job.
The Minolta back catalogue of G Glass in particular in most cases rate higher than Sony equivalents. The 2 x converters for the Minolta “High Speed” are the white APO II version specifically for the “High Speed” G lenses.
I have bought exactly same combo (80-200 HS+Tamron 2X Tele-con.) after viewing this video. This setup works incredibly well, way beyond my expectation of late 1980's optics, I would prefer it over the other similar lens that I have used: Canon 70-200mm F4 IS. Especially for the teleconverter part, you won't really notice the loss of sharpness unless you are doing side by side pixel peeping. Very happy to save extra $ from buying a 70-400mm G lens, which will not be as practical as 80-200mm for daily usage. (May buy it later anyway if I am really into shooting aircrafts)
Thanks for this vid. That SAL1650 is my workhorse and I'm looking at the 80-200 pretty seriously.
Nice job! I think I'll buy one now...
Thanks for this. Only lately I got this exact setup. Learning every day. I haven't got the 2X Kenko teleconverter yet, but maybe soon. It's a great buy in 2022.
Thanks. Remember that having IBIS on can significantly reduce image quality. It is capable of very good IQ. I currently use it with my A7R2 with great results.
Also note that I LOVED my A77ii. It was by far my favorite camera. Unfortunately it fell in the lake. I bought the A7R which I really didn’t like so I sold it and then bought the A7Rii which is better but I still loved the A77ii much more. It simply feels great to shoot. The mirrorless just don’t feel good and aren’t nearly as fun to shoot with. I would buy the A99ii if I could afford it.
@@PolioVitruvius Thank you for that. Yes I was going to go for an A7iii, but I was offered a great deal with the Minolta 80-200 F2.8, so it was a no brainer for me. A lot to learn though with all the new features compared to my previous Sony SLT. Should be fun. Thanks too for the info about turning off IBIS with this lens. For me I think that the Auto ISO in manual mode is a great feature. Will try it later with some garden birds.
@@pathurley2884 one of the best features that you won’t even find on any new cameras or lenses is the focus limiter. You can easily adjust the limit of the near and far focus. Great to set birding range. Crazy that new cameras don’t offer this. One of the worst features is that it limits you to f3.5 with high speed shooting for no apparent reason and Sony refuses to say why or fix it.
@@PolioVitruvius Yes I will try out the focus limiter. It'll make a difference I'd say, in a good way. Not sure why the 12fps mode is the way it is. I can use manual mode anyway with auto ISO, and Hi Speed drive which I think is 8 or 10fps? I might be mistaken though. Best way to find out is to use and try out things. Thank you.
Minolta makes a telaconverter that comes in the white color just for that lense. But I believe it doesn't work on regular Minolta AF lenses.
i would like to see portrait samples with this lens
Thanks Yana Goya. You do not seem to have replies enabled so I will reply here. The general rule of thumb for motion blur from lens movement when shooting hand held is to keep the shutter speed at least the inverse of the lens focal length. So at 80mm that would be minimum 1/80 sec shutter speed. At 200mm that would be minimum 1/200 sec shutter speed. You might need to adjust for crop factor though since 200mm on a crop sensor is actually about 300mm on a full frame camera, but I am not sure about that. This is why really wide lenses are better in low light, because you can shoot much slower shutter speeds. But this will not impact any motion blur from the motion of the subject of course.
Here are some sports images I took with the Minolta 80-200 HS and the A77ii. (Canadian Men's Cycle Cross National Championship race here in Winnipeg) They are around 1/320 second. I could have shot much faster to completely freeze the action but that was just fast enough to get the peoples faces sharp and still make the spraying sand blurry to add more life to the action.
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Thanks
Thank you for your video
Nice video. Concerning image stabilization, I believe what you found with the lens is actually a constant with all lenses. IS does give you an advantage, but there is always a slight trade off. If you are using a long lens shooting action handheld, it does become almost a necessity. Post processing is the only way to get some of the sharpness back.
Thanks Emph. Obviously I am not into making videos or video editing but I just found there is a real lack of info out there so i just wanted to share my thoughts. I LOVE this lens but to be honest I thought the IBIS would work better than it does with this lens. In hind sight, for similar price I might have gone with the new Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 SP DI. It has weather resistance and the IS might work better. AF would be quieter than the Minolta but likely a bit slower.
I shot the Canadian National Cycle Cross here in Winnipeg a while back and I got lots of strange looks form the pro photographers. They were like... what the heck???.. a 1984 lens on a 2014 camera??? Pretty cool that the combo really works, and works really well. I don't know any other camera for any price that shoots 24mpx, in RAW at 12fps with full time AF tracking, focus limiter, even with a 20 year old lens. I know there are some Point&Shoots out now but nothing with a shallow depth of field lens.
Here is a link to my Flickr page where I did some IQ testing and the Cycle Cross images.
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I think any lens at 200mm (300mm full frame equiv.) would be a bit shaky. You either have to use a tripod or shoot really fast shutter speeds. I have this lens. I puchased it in 2006 for my Konica Minolta 7D. I'm about to test it out on my A7ii and LA-EA4 adapter to see if it can come close to the AF on my old camera. Curious to see this lens on a full frame camera too.
@@mistermatsuda I am going to get this lens and try it on with my A7IV with the LA-EA5. I will let you know how that goes!
This is still true to this day in 2022. Thanks for making this video. These Minolta lenses are gems for Sony shooters. The new LA-EA 5 adaptor works well with auto focus. These old Minolta lenses are just so much more affordable than the new G and G master lenses for beginners! Even cheaper than Tamron or other third parties lenses new or used otherwise!
Sadly theres not much info or youtube videos that cover this type of lens
@@gundamaction1201 thanks. I actually sold this lens to buy another lens and then regretted it so I had to buy another one. My favorite thing about the lens is actually the image quality. It just has a certain look that I can’t seem to get with other lenses. I would really like to get the 300 / 2.8 HS next.
@@PolioVitruvius I am glad you still appreciate these lenses. I didn’t know they existed since I just got into photography half a year ago. I am on a budget but still want something that can have more reach.
Then I started looking into my local second hand market online and these Minolta lenses just stood out because of their prices and what they offer.
The first one I got is the 100-300 apo tele zoom. It works great during the day. This lens gave me the confidence to look for the 80-200 f2.8. I got that one too and I am amazed of the image quality as well!
Lenses nowadays are just expensive (I guess it is the same whenever which era you lived in). But I think we are in luck today because the new cameras are just so much more capable and they still work fine with vintage lenses like these.
Are there any vintage lenses you would recommend?
I use the lens on my Sony a 850 and Sony a 99, and it works perfectly. But you need the white APO tele converter from Minolta, which were then made by Minolta only for this lens and the Minolta 300 2,8 HS. The other tele converter do not work so well on this lens.
why are you using a full frame lens on an aps-c frame camera?....i have this ability on my a99 and a99/2 cameras to change over from full frame to aps-c frame....is there any difference between using a full frame vrs. a aps-c frame camera?...is this lens using it as you demonstrate on a aps frame deliver better quality images as compared to using it as a full frame lens on a full frame camera?....i ask because i have this lens and the a77, a77/2, a99 and a99 cameras and the sony 16-50mm f2.8.......
I don't have an extra $4,000 lying around to buy a A99ii. Sorry. I had to sell some gear including this lens to but a A9Rii. The resolution is higher but I actually miss my A77ii with the Minolta lens. I regret going mirror-less. It isn't really much smaller and it doesn't feel as good to shoot and the images with the Minolta lens were nicer even though the resolution was lower.
awesome explanation/review.maybe you should make a on more minolta AF lenses :)
Hi! Thanks for taking time to do up this review! When comparing the lens at 135mm and 200mm at f2.8, do you find images are much softer at 200mm and will be comparable in sharpness to 135mm at only f4 onwards?
your hands are beautiful man
You do know that your 80-200 on the A77ii is actually a 120-300mm
With your teleconverter, you now have a 240 - 600 !!
Mike H Yup, that is what I like about it. I got a 600mm f5.6 lens on a camera that shoot 24MP at 12 fps RAW with full time phase detect AF and image stabilization for under $2k.
Not bad.
Yes, with optical image stabilizer, focus peaking, image tracking, phase detect AF, and fully adjustable front and back focus limiter.
PolioVitruvius 600mm f8:)
Thank you soo much!!!
Very interesting .I looked at a 2x APO tele converter I have from a Bigma and see that the diaphragm position of the bigma is passed to the telephoto converter via a repeater and I wonder if the camera knows there is a teleconverter- By the way thanks for the video I was impressed with the lens.
+marcelo campoamor - Yes, my understanding is that the telecomverter has a chip and that is also why some lenses are slower on some cameras. That is also why this combo is so fast - the AF drive motor is in the camera body and so is the AF sensors. Full onboard AF control without the latency lag of going through the lens mount contacts or the lens chip or the telecomverter chip.
+PolioVitruvius Hello . I get the lens today, thanks for you video again.
How is it for Action/Sport/fast moving objects, wildlife?
How interesting - about the stabilization. I haven't tried any action shooting with 77m2+80-200 yet, only had one low light concert shoot and 80-200 preformed a lot worse than minolta 85/1.4 in similar situation(obviously not quite a straighforward comparison, prime-zoom, appeture and so on, but the difference was way too drastic). I figured it was because I used relatively long shutter speeds while this camera+lens combo is quite heavy for me, resulting in unsteady hands... However even on sharper photos microcontrast wasn't great. Now I'll do some testing on different fls with stab on and off.
Question - if shooting action without stabilization, what would be the slowest shutter speed you'd recommend?
the minolta 70-200mm and the 80-200mm lenses are expensive enough, NOW, thanks to you, they will be even more expensive!
Ya, it went up a fair bit after I posted this. sorry. But the intention is to show that lenses from 30 years ago are still about as good as today's lenses. It is very sad that Sony can't produce a decent line of FF f2.8 zoom lenses.
Sony lost me as a customer because of what they did with the A mount........Sony went out of their way to tell the 3rd party lens makers they were finished with the A mount....There was no need to do that, then most likely i would have converted over, but now, no way.....If i need another lens i will go to a different mfg body because i could buy that body with the lens snd the cost would be cheaper and the lens better ....Sony made their clear to me that their interest in the customer was not in my best interest.....
I assume that, when adapted to say a Nikon, the function will be limited to manual focus/no electric circuit in the adapter to drive the motor?
If that lens is as sharp as you say you do not need the teleconverter because you will be able to blow the image up and not lose to much noticeable detail....Using a converter loses too much light and effects the clarity and sharpness of the image.....Plus the Sony's have an excellent built in teleconverter on their A mount bodies and some E mounts ........
Sorry, but I disagree. The teleconverter reduces resolution but that does NOT mean the resolution of the image reaching the sensor is degraded below the resolution of the sensor. Even with the teleconverter the combination lens and teleconverter outresolve the sensor. So you gain 2x magnification without noticeable resolution loss.
Hello PolioVitruvius. i bought a Minolta 5d w/ 18-70mm lenses at a garage sale for a good price. I always liked taking pictures but i was wondering if the minolta 5d is still good, compared to today's camera's.
I have a Minolta 5D, Sony a100, Sony a350, Sony a55, Sony a850, Sony a5100 and tons of Minolta lenses including this one (80-200 2.8). Some of my best shots are from the Minolta 5D. I will not get rid of it just yet.
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I thought about your reasoning around f5.6 as trasmision and not as the iris position of 5.6 but 2.8. When the camera shows 5.6 do so because the mechanical leg of the apertura stay in the 5.6 state otherwise will showr f 2.8.
+marcelo campoamor The lens aperture is physically still at f2.8 but the camera says f5.6 because that is the equivalent amount of light for the camera calculations for the shutter speed. The Depth Of Field is still f2.8.
I have this lens, I keep my stabilizer on because this equipment is heavy and difficult to maintain it steady hand held......I too also replaced my Sigma with this lens....
hello sir , its really awsome tuturial, thanks for the upload. i wanted to ask , why camera shows after everyshot , image is processing , even though i used fast cards .
Sanjeeb Manandhar Are you doing long exposures? Then it takes another shot the same length with the shutter closed right after each shot and then subtracts the noise in the second shot from the pixels in the first shot. That takes a while.
Wow, thanks for this review! I thought I was doomed for good with my A77ii and the Sigma HSD II paired. I was really interested to hear what you had to say about this lens, esp. since I have had nothing but trouble with the Sigma (poor bokeh, un-sharp areas of the frame, blurry wide open, focus hunting, etc.). I shoot women's roller derby with that same combo and did not want to go another full season stopped down at f4.5 just to get a sharp plane of focus. Then this summer, I sent the lens back to Sigma for focus adjustment and calibration and it does not look any better, in fact, A77ii microfocus adj is even farther off from zero(!). With the $3.2K A99II out now, I did not want to spend $1.5K on a Sony G 70-200/2.8 if I can get the same results with the Minolta.
One question though: How does the zoom performance of the Minolta feel compared with the Sigma? I really like the tactile rubbery finish of the Sigma and the zoom ring can be operated with one finger as I hold the focus point on the skater's head.
The Sigma zoom is smoother. But having a nice smooth zoom and getting lots of out of focus shots is more frustrating than a less smooth zoom and lightning fast pin point accurate focus. Minolta is not quiet though. Not good for weddings. But sports it is amazing. When I had the Sigma I tried to get a high speed series of shots of my dogs running towards me with continues focus tracking. It never worked well with the Sigma and I thought is was that the Sony a77ii was the weakest link. But then I tried the Minolta and it had no problem at all keeping up with anything.
IMHO, A77ii was not the weakest link, as I had similar problems shooting an A57 and that Sigma lens, with the downside that I could not AF micro-focus adjust those cameras but they still needed to be shot at f4.5 to be even pleasantly sharp .I ordered the Minolta 80-200 G from Japan based on the strength of this video review and Dyxum forum reviews so I should have it any day now. Thanks again for the detailed discussion of your experiences.
Ivan Singer Please let me know how you like the Minolta when you get it. I find it a bit loud and almost jerky but that is just the price I pay for a really fast focus mechanism unless I spend three times more money.
So, I got the Minolta G lens today and spent about an hour testing it out. My copy is clean and free of paint chipping, even on the tripod foot. You may be right about the A77ii being the critical factor. The first time I used it, AF Micro Adjust was zeroed out and every frame I shot on C mode was off focus (I used 30mph moving cars driving past my house). Then, took the camera inside, setup a couple of bounced flash slaves and shot the packing slip against the wall which had many fine details across the page. Here is what I noticed:
1) Both lenses behaved similarly at f2.8 indoors at the image center, the Minolta having noticeably better corner to corner sharpness even at the intersection of thirds
2) Both lenses have some purple CA against backlit sky, but the Minolta is easier to control and less color variation
3) Minolta is definitely noisier and but AF very responsive, and torque is not bad at all..Sigma is very quiet but cannot lock focus easily (gross movements as it hunts)
4) Both lenses seemed sharpest at AF MA -20, leading me to believe that the A77ii camera may need some internal adjustment or that the pellicle mirror is misaligned slightly
In a few weeks, I'll get to check the sharpness in some real world sports conditions, but I have much more confidence that I will have more keepers at AF MA -20 with the G lens than the sigma. I will also be able to try a larger working aperture, maybe f3.5 or f4, for indoor sports which will allow me to decrease power and allow for 3-4 lo continuous frames before I lose recycle power.
I had a chance to take the Minolta to a live theater dance performance and the IQ was easily as good or better as my Nikkor 80-200/2.8 AF-D on my Nikon D300, and with the IS turned off, at 1/320s or 1/400s . Thanks for the advice to turn off the SteadyShot! With SS off, the micro-contrast was really excellent, providing some really great ARW files to work with. Even shooting straight into the side stage lights provided some very striking images with just a little flair to control. By comparison, my Nikkor lens AF is slower, slightly less sure-footed to lock on, and is a much heavier and longer lens at 77mm filter thread, but the A77ii is quieter and can shoot a much longer sequence run before the buffer fills (that's really not a surprise). However, the screw-drive on the Minolta AF was conspicuously loud and not easy to hide in quieter moments, so I used the AF hold button on the lens as much as possible. I will say that the AF Track Duration on Low (1) meant that the lens readjusts focus a little too much without the benefit of being more accurate frame to frame. That is on subjects that are moving closer or farther away, not laterally, I'll probably move it back to Medium (3) or Mid-Low (2). Just my two cents, not a scientific opinion.
I have this lens and it's better than whats on the market today.........I am a sony shooter,i never use adopters......
Over all how do you like the camera? I have the sony a58 and want to upgrade, hoping it worth the money for macro and wildlife photography. Trying to talk myself into it, moneys burning a whole in my pocket lol
Still LOVE the camera. I found however that the lens actually makes a really big difference. More then I thought. Not that I want to talk you out of it, but for macro you might like to just get better glass first. Glass that would also work on the A77ii when you get it. I think you might be surprised. I was shooting with the Sony DT 16-50mm f2.8 lens which is pretty good and then got the Minolta 80-200 f2.8 which is also very good and I though that was about the best the camera sensor could put out. I was wrong. I put the Bower 85mm f1.4 lens on and I got a lot more clarity from the sensor. So now I am spoiled and I only want better glass. haha.
Is this combination fast enough to shoot action? Do you have good results shooting dog running fast towards you? Focusing on head? :)
Jan Pončík Absolutely. The lens is almost too fast. I had to set the tracking speed in the camera down to low because it was just too hyper. On low it seem to stick with the subject better.
Does anyone know of where I can get one of these lenses? I've been searching for it for days on the internet and didn't find even one! Help appreciated
There are a few on ebay. Unfortunately since posting this video the price has increased a fair bit. And the new A99ii will increase the price too.
Thanks for the quick response. You are right, I found some in the US and Japan - before I was looking only on the German Ebay. By the way, thank you also for the video! I would have never found out that this lense is most suitable for the a77ii.
I am in the process of acquiring anSony A99, the big brother to the A77, do you have any idea if the old Minolta glass works just as well. The current Sony lens are quite costly.
I have a99 and this minolta 80-200mm f2.8 hs g lens. The focus is faster with this lens like the sony 70-200mm f2.8g :)
thank ya!
Will it work with the LEA4 Adaptor for the A7 series?
It would but you would only have the middle AF points and I am not sure if the AF motor in the adapter is as powerful as the one in the A mount cameras. Wish I could test this.
Now it is too noisy feeling. While focusing.😂
is this thing worth adapting to the A7R ii? i want f2/8, but i don't want to pay $2600 for the fail master lens. i tried using a canon 70-200 is ii with both metabones and sigma adapters, but they hunt all the damn time.
slomoshv Not sure. I had a friend try one of my alpha lenses on his A7 with the LA EA 4 and the AF was much slower. The AF drive motor is in the body of the camera. Or in your case the adapter. Might not be the same. On my A77ii it actually jerks it is so powerful. I am saving up for the A99ii although the sensor will likely out resolve these lenses.
oh man... it's like nikon all over again. i didn't know the story with the focus motor. thank you. i guess i'll just have dig deeper into my piggy bank for the 70-200 g master lens... assuming it ever goes back on sale.
slomoshv Or for the same money pick up a used A77ii as a second body with a great lens?
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU BE USING A 2X TELE-CONVERTER WHEN THE CAMERA has a built in 1.4 and 2x clear lens ?...i have that old old minolta 80-200mmf2.8 lens and it blows away other brands......
The optical magnification does not sacrifice resolution, that is why.
@@PolioVitruvius can't shoot raw with smart tele
Do you think this lens auto focus will work on a sony a3000 or will I need a adapter
John Smith You need an adapter. The NEX cameras are smaller because they don't have a mirror and I don't think they have the shaft drive AF motor in the camera body either. Many of the NEX lenses are longer to make up for the different lens back focus distances. So you can get a basic adapter just to compensate for the lens back focus distance. That would essentially be a macro tube. Here -www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Y2YE5S/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jhvitu-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B003Y2YE5S
Then a step up is the adapter with electronic connections like the LA-EA1. This will allow the use of SAM and SSM lenses with AF motors in them. It does not have the mirror with the contrast detect AF sensors or the shaft drive motor for the older lenses like this Minolta 80-200. Here -
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Then a step up further is the LA-EA2 which has the translucent mirror and the extra phase detect AF sensors. I think it also has the shaft drive AF motor built in. Here -
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They are up to the LA-AE4 by now I think for full frame E mount cameras.
So now you are paying an extra $400 and your camera is at least as big and heavy as my A77ii. That is why I went with the A mount from the beginning.
You need an adapter and then it will not be as fast, I tried it with the LAEA4 and it was a fair bit slower.
SIGMA is JuNk.