That is why I made the video. To help people out! I was trying to light my heater just the other day with the push igniter. I can see the spark but it just doesn't light the pilot flame. I also have to use a lighter. Guess I need to make a video fixing the igniter. Too bad Williams can make it work out of the box. Thanks for watching. Thanks for the comnent.
Just bought one for a house addition. Bought the natural gas though from some one on Facebook marketplace for $300. Brand new. This video will help tremendously in the installation. Thanks.
So it’s summer time now (June of 2024) here in northwest Indiana and close to Chicago. I installed it right before winter time. This heater worked great in my back room addition!!!
Thank you for watching and the comment. We did a couple videos on this furnace from unboxing to installation. We did not see a lot of information on small LP heaters and needed something that could be altered to our higher altitude. Hope it helps you in some way.
In 120 sq. ft. there is just not enough air to run a heater indoors. Something that doesn't use interior air and exhausts combustion outside was a more workable solution for us. The thermostat will let us focus on other chores until we are ready to commit to a wood burner. Dense trees and grasses will also require consideration on how we heat our home.
I've had one of these in a rental unit for 12+ years. About five of those years I had to have it serviced in the fall at first start-up for various nickel and dime repairs. Now the pilot keeps going out every couple days. We put a thermal coupler on it, no dice. I kind of regret not spending the extra money for the Rinnai back then, won't make that mistake this time.
Guess that is why we need more videos like this, so people better understand what they may be getting into. I also chose to go with a low cost heater vs one that cost twice the money. You get what you pay for apparently. Thank you for sharing, it may help others with their decisions. Hope you get your heater sorted out.
@@SpencersMountain I did order a new Rinnai heater. I shouldn't bad mouth the Williams because it did last over 10 years, which is about the standard lifespan of these small heaters. Yes it's not very efficient but the area it was heating was a small studio apartment, and the heat bill was about $40 per month in January & February. That's rock bottom cheap. Your whole video library is excellent. A real treasure trove of useful information. I wish you & yours the absolute best.
@@frankmathews1358 don’t think that would help much as prices have changed over the last couple years. At purchase, I found a place selling several hundred less $$$. You will need to do some research for current cost. We did several videos on this furnace that shows what is in the box, everything needed to install, altitude modification if needed and installation.
Very helpful video. I have a 200 square foot cabin at 9000 feet. There is a high altitude kit for up to 8000 feet. Do you think this furnace with the 8000 feet kit will operate at 9000 feet?
I went by the manufacturers recomendation for the attitude kit we used. In your case contact them to ensure the resulting BTU you will get. A small fuel orifice and less air at alttitude also means fewer BTU.
My heater is now installed and works great. But, I have the same issue with the igniter not working right out of the box. Using a match but geez, seems like a design issue.
The ignitor bracket on the Williams heater is a joke! The bracket is too flimsy to support pressing the button. The spark on my heater seems decent, but will not light the pilot. Just the slightest flame from a butane lighter sets off my pilot from the lighting window. Even from a distance outside the lighting window. I wonder if anyone has one that works.
Mine stopped working. I was out of town. So I called the guy that did a nice clean job of putting it in for me. He determined that it was the Thermopcouple assembly (or thermopile?) He changed it and it worked. Then next year or 2 years later i was outta town and same thing would not light or stay lit (don't remember) the original guy was not very agreeable anymore so I called the HVAC contractor I used on other jobs. He sent his best trouble shooter out and determined it was the gas valve this time. Over $300-400 for the valve and had a real hard time getting replacement parts. Cost $500 to $600 to fix Now it's 3 years later and it's broke again. Pilot lights while I hold in the selector knob as soon as a let go of knob flame dies... Ugh. I have installed 4 of these and they all have a simular problem usually when I'm OUT OF TOWN!! SO FRUSTRATING the ones from 40 years ago just worked and worked made in usa and worked for decades. God bless CCP lol🤣
Sorry you have had so many issues with these heaters. Thank you for taking the time to comment so others can learn you experiences. I am guessing you indeed know how to operate since you own several...just wanted to point out that when lighting pilot, you need to hold pilot position on valve and knob pressed in for up to a minute for pilot to stay lighted. The thermocouple has to heat in order to create enough electrical current to hold the valve open. Only way to know is a voltmeter sensitive enough to measure the 750 millivolt current. For such simple dev ices, these heaters can apparently be somewhat picky in operation. Again, thanks for sharing, your comment may certainly help someone with their decisions. And, thank you for watching.
@@SpencersMountain you could be on to something I usually read directions 🤣 maybe I will time how long I am holding down the pilot knob. Thanks for pointer. I usually can get them lit. Is it longer for one of these than a water heater or same? Same right? Or all they all different? I will do testing as you have outlined when I get back to the unit. Thanks again 😁😁👍
@@MichaelDillin I simply noticed that my pilot lit quickly at 20-30 seconds the first few times. After that, it took somewhere around 50 seconds for it to stay lit (counting until it stayed lit). Instructions did mention 1 minute. Unfortunately, I am not an expert on these things. There are a couple of RUclips videos that explain and troubleshoot these small gas heater systems...which is the extent of my knowledge.
@@JeffBrauss the heater has been holding up fine. The built in push button igniter has never worked. Need to remove spark end and bend closer to pilot. Unit is only rated 66% efficient. You get what you pay for. Otherwise, it works, pretty quiet and looks good.
That is unfortunate! As with any machine there are always quality issues. I am not a qualified heater tech. Best advice is to have a qualified professional check your furnace. That said I like to troubleshoot my own equipment. A troubleshooting chart should be easy enough to locate. Could be a simple cheap thermal coupler issue or a more complex gas pressure problem. My heater has an alignment issue where the spark can not light the pilot, requiring lighting through the port. Hope you can sort out your pilot issue.
Just about to install one and have some concerns with exposed propane tanks in extreme cold - say -15 fahrenheit. Have you run those tanks at or below that temp? any problems?
Claim is that propane is good to -44 degrees F as that is a liquid/ gas temperature. I have lived most of my life in regions with -25 degrees F and vast majority of houses using outdoor propane storage. Doubt you will experience an issue. However alway have a backup plan of some kind for Murphy’s Law. Thanks for watching.
i bought the 30,000 btu model and have been looking at the instructions while waiting for it to come. can the gas supply enter the unit from the bottom of the cover? that's what it looked like y'all did. in the instructions i have, it looks like the gas supply has to enter the unit from behind the cover, coming thru the wall, which would be more work for me based on the existing gas line, so if there was a way for the gas supply to come from the bottom for my installation that would be preferable. Thx!
I'm sorry but I don't know anything about the 30,000 BTU version. The 14,000 BTU furnace instructions had three different plumbing configurations that they recommended. I suggest contacting the manufacturer for options on your installation.
Great step by step video. Did you guy it with the LP already configured? I purchased a brand new one from an auction that is NG and need to convert it to propane
Yes, the heater we purchased was setup for LP. We changed the main jet (think it was the second video we did on this heater). Jet change was needed for our altitude. Thanks for watching… good luck with your conversion and installation.
You guys rock. Looking at the same furnace for my 1938 tamarack log cabin on Lake Superior in the UP of Michigan. Only question is how the direct vent will react to high winds coming off the lake in November and December. Any experience you can share with operating the furnace in high winds?
I wasn't finding a lot of information on this furnace so thought it important to share what I could figure out. Our installation is fairly protected with all the trees and nearby building. I understand the concern regarding the vent. The simplistic design of the furnace should not be a big issue in wind as the vent and baffling for intake and exhaust seem to be of decent design. The furnace itself is of poor design for efficiency. Stand alone, it is good for putting heat into a place with no need for power, however, I think using a powered fan would be worth the effort from our solar system to push heat off of the heater and improve efficiency. We will most likely have updates to the things we use in our videos if it helps others with their needs. Thank you for watching!
You forgot to install roxul Mineral wool high temperature insulation around your air intake pipe in the wall , so now around the heater the wall will get cold , plus , for extra protection for rainy days outside you should of put caulking around the vent cap , plus the thermostat you installed is a cheap one , you should of installed a digital thermostat, and one major thing that little heater is NOT ! Strong enough to heat that garage , you would need at least 35 000 Btu’s
The heater is installed per manufacturer instructions. Insulation per that installation. The vent cap was caulked on the outside. The Honeywell thermostat is indeed cheap and provides poor heat regulation. It does not require batteries making the whole heat system electric free. Propane is the only energy involved. Our heater is in a 120 square foot off-grid cabin so 14000 btu is plenty of heat.
Is the pilot stay on all the way 24/7? My pilot is on and wall controller is off but the heater is still giving off heat from the top. First time using, I just installed it. Any tips or suggestions, should I let it run for a while
Yes, the pilot light runs constantly when you want heat from thermostat setting. These are not very sophisticated heater. You have to light the pilot when you want heat and turn the pilot and gas or LP off when you do not want heat. The first time or two that the heater runs there will be odor from oil in metal and paint that may require venting room. After that, there should be no odors. These are not efficient heaters and leaving the pilot running without a real need for heat will use gas for no benefit.
Great thanks for the reply. I have this in my ADU unit that has a tenant, my old long wall gas heater would have a small fire lit (the pilot) 24/7 then when we turned out thermostat on the heat would come on until it reached the temperature we set it to and go back to a small flame (just the pilot lit). Does this heater work the same way? Meaning the flame(pilot) just lit enough to stay on until I turn up the thermostat then it would kick on.
@@jcespinoza6293 missed this. Yes the pilot light stays on after you light it. The pilot stays on until you turn it off. The thermostat gets it power from the pilot light heat. So, pilot has to be on for thermostat to function.
This is all within the realm of “do it yourself”. If you understand pipe fittings and correct sealants and use correctly rated parts. All parts in our videos for this furnace are correct for propane installation. If there is any part of such an installation that confuses you, defiantly get professional help. Also check with your local building permit dept to ensure you can legally do connections. Our install had no restricting law, we did careful work and checked connections with leak detector solution (soap bubbles). Thank you for watching!
@@tpike46w Yes, sourced my own install parts. The heater did not include any hook up parts. You will also need a thermostat as that and wire is not included. I even used different screws than the ones provided for mounting. Old fashion round head slotted screws provided are a waste of time/ effort. I recommend downloading manuals before buying. Here is our playlist for this furnace with unboxing, parts collection and install. Williams 14000BTU Propane Furnace ruclips.net/p/PLqbvRJ6oY7GQGipf1spKc6R7_FDFOwMkp
What happens if you use an lp tank like yours but without the pressure regulator? I have a direct line I used from an RV lp tank to my buddy heater without the regulator. Just bought a Williams and wanted to know.
First off...i am not a professional in this area. Consult manufacturer for correct use of your furnace. The furnace manual specified a regulator was required. Regulators are not expensive. I used a switching regulator that is attached to two open LPG cylinder, the valve can automatically switch tanks when one goes empty. Safety systems and sensing in gas valves can have frustrating results if any part of a system is not correct. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@SpencersMountain thanks. I found out after I posted my question that the buddy heaters have a regulator built in. This makes sense. I trust that your setup with the small lp tank works ok? That was what I planned to use.
@@tzavitz I did run the Williams heater on 20 lb tanks, against manufacturer recommendation. Depending on usage, it is a small amount of fuel and does not last a long time. I still used the recommended regulator with the small tanks. We are now using 100# cylinders with the change over for two tanks. Just means you don't have a cold heater in the middle of the night. Hope everything works out for you;
@@SpencersMountain I plan to use my two RV 30# tanks with my dual regulator like you did. I’m only heating a small workshop that is away from the house so the duration of my heating times will likely be in 4-5 hour segments. Thanks for the information and for all you do on your channel!
I got my heater installed today and it works great. Your video got me over the DIY hump by showing the installation and making it look “doable”. Thanks for posting it! You have the only Williams install video on RUclips!
I am sorry I had not seen this comment. I used a two wire condutor specifically intended for thermostat usage. Only one red and one white wire. I believe my wire is 20 gauge with up to 18 recommended. This wire carries a very small current (valves usually rated at 750 millivolt for operation). We mounted the thermostat about 6 feet away from the heater about 5 feet high from the floor. Appears to be working OK in that location for us. The manual indicated a thermostat could be mounted on the side of the heater case.
@@Barret_Radtke not a huge expense, but the parts can't possibly cost that much...assume it is part of overhead cost. At least you should be up and running soon. Watch the part of our heater videos where we change the orifice, we found a simpler route than the instruction provide.
@@SpencersMountain thats what we call the canadian tax. 145.43 + 33.02 shipping. hope i get it before it gets cold they aparently dont have it in stock so i might have to wait a bit.
@@Barret_Radtke ouch...yeah that is a bit of s hit. Don't know why simple everyday devices have to be so costly. And, this one of the cheaper unit in this type. Hope you are up and running soon!
You want a 2 stage automatic switching propane regulator. Easy to search for online. Or, most box stores or farm store should offer similar regulators. Be sure to match your propane connector pigtails to your tank connectors. Thanks for asking.
Sorry, did not see this until now. Hopefully you got the cover back on. The thin sheet metal doesn’t fit all that well. You have to align the cover and then flex it slightly to go in place. Another set of hands would help. Good luck. Thanks for watching. We did make a couple videos on this heater. The second video, we had to make some internal modifications for our high altitude. Maybe something in there?
About as low cost as you can go for a non-portable wall mount heater and doesn’t have an open flame to the room. However the 67% efficiency is pretty disappointing. You get what you par for. Thank you for watching.
Thank you!!! I was finally able to light the light thing using your video. I also had to use a lighter. Thanks so much.
That is why I made the video. To help people out! I was trying to light my heater just the other day with the push igniter. I can see the spark but it just doesn't light the pilot flame. I also have to use a lighter. Guess I need to make a video fixing the igniter. Too bad Williams can make it work out of the box. Thanks for watching. Thanks for the comnent.
Just bought one for a house addition. Bought the natural gas though from some one on Facebook marketplace for $300. Brand new. This video will help tremendously in the installation. Thanks.
You are welcome. The doesn’t appear to be many videos on this little furnace. We have three videos on this heater. Good luck with your installation.
So it’s summer time now (June of 2024) here in northwest Indiana and close to Chicago. I installed it right before winter time. This heater worked great in my back room addition!!!
Thanks for taking the time to produce this very instructive video .
Thank you for watching and the comment. We did a couple videos on this furnace from unboxing to installation. We did not see a lot of information on small LP heaters and needed something that could be altered to our higher altitude. Hope it helps you in some way.
Really nice step by step process. I like the size of that thing! Maybe I’ll do something similar in the tiny home eventually. Very cool!
In 120 sq. ft. there is just not enough air to run a heater indoors. Something that doesn't use interior air and exhausts combustion outside was a more workable solution for us. The thermostat will let us focus on other chores until we are ready to commit to a wood burner. Dense trees and grasses will also require consideration on how we heat our home.
Cost?
Nice job. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the kind comment and thank you for watching.
Thank you guys, really appreciate.
Did not see a lot of good information on this heater. It is all worth making the video if it helps someone out.
Thanks
I've had one of these in a rental unit for 12+ years. About five of those years I had to have it serviced in the fall at first start-up for various nickel and dime repairs. Now the pilot keeps going out every couple days. We put a thermal coupler on it, no dice. I kind of regret not spending the extra money for the Rinnai back then, won't make that mistake this time.
Guess that is why we need more videos like this, so people better understand what they may be getting into. I also chose to go with a low cost heater vs one that cost twice the money. You get what you pay for apparently. Thank you for sharing, it may help others with their decisions. Hope you get your heater sorted out.
@@SpencersMountain I did order a new Rinnai heater. I shouldn't bad mouth the Williams because it did last over 10 years, which is about the standard lifespan of these small heaters. Yes it's not very efficient but the area it was heating was a small studio apartment, and the heat bill was about $40 per month in January & February. That's rock bottom cheap.
Your whole video library is excellent. A real treasure trove of useful information. I wish you & yours the absolute best.
Thank you for the video. Great job.
Total cost?
@@frankmathews1358 don’t think that would help much as prices have changed over the last couple years. At purchase, I found a place selling several hundred less $$$. You will need to do some research for current cost. We did several videos on this furnace that shows what is in the box, everything needed to install, altitude modification if needed and installation.
Very helpful video. I have a 200 square foot cabin at 9000 feet. There is a high altitude kit for up to 8000 feet. Do you think this furnace with the 8000 feet kit will operate at 9000 feet?
I went by the manufacturers recomendation for the attitude kit we used. In your case contact them to ensure the resulting BTU you will get. A small fuel orifice and less air at alttitude also means fewer BTU.
My heater is now installed and works great. But, I have the same issue with the igniter not working right out of the box. Using a match but geez, seems like a design issue.
The ignitor bracket on the Williams heater is a joke! The bracket is too flimsy to support pressing the button. The spark on my heater seems decent, but will not light the pilot. Just the slightest flame from a butane lighter sets off my pilot from the lighting window. Even from a distance outside the lighting window. I wonder if anyone has one that works.
Mine stopped working. I was out of town. So I called the guy that did a nice clean job of putting it in for me. He determined that it was the Thermopcouple assembly (or thermopile?) He changed it and it worked.
Then next year or 2 years later i was outta town and same thing would not light or stay lit (don't remember) the original guy was not very agreeable anymore so I called the HVAC contractor I used on other jobs. He sent his best trouble shooter out and determined it was the gas valve this time. Over $300-400 for the valve and had a real hard time getting replacement parts. Cost $500 to $600 to fix
Now it's 3 years later and it's broke again.
Pilot lights while I hold in the selector knob as soon as a let go of knob flame dies...
Ugh. I have installed 4 of these and they all have a simular problem usually when I'm OUT OF TOWN!! SO FRUSTRATING the ones from 40 years ago just worked and worked made in usa and worked for decades. God bless CCP lol🤣
Sorry you have had so many issues with these heaters. Thank you for taking the time to comment so others can learn you experiences. I am guessing you indeed know how to operate since you own several...just wanted to point out that when lighting pilot, you need to hold pilot position on valve and knob pressed in for up to a minute for pilot to stay lighted. The thermocouple has to heat in order to create enough electrical current to hold the valve open. Only way to know is a voltmeter sensitive enough to measure the 750 millivolt current. For such simple dev ices, these heaters can apparently be somewhat picky in operation. Again, thanks for sharing, your comment may certainly help someone with their decisions. And, thank you for watching.
@@SpencersMountain you could be on to something I usually read directions 🤣 maybe I will time how long I am holding down the pilot knob. Thanks for pointer. I usually can get them lit. Is it longer for one of these than a water heater or same? Same right?
Or all they all different?
I will do testing as you have outlined when I get back to the unit. Thanks again 😁😁👍
@@MichaelDillin I simply noticed that my pilot lit quickly at 20-30 seconds the first few times. After that, it took somewhere around 50 seconds for it to stay lit (counting until it stayed lit). Instructions did mention 1 minute. Unfortunately, I am not an expert on these things. There are a couple of RUclips videos that explain and troubleshoot these small gas heater systems...which is the extent of my knowledge.
Curious how this unit held up? Thinking about getting this one or an Ashley direct vent. Thx
@@JeffBrauss the heater has been holding up fine. The built in push button igniter has never worked. Need to remove spark end and bend closer to pilot. Unit is only rated 66% efficient. You get what you pay for. Otherwise, it works, pretty quiet and looks good.
I installed one these (natural gas) and the pilot goes out within a couple of hours. What a pita!
That is unfortunate! As with any machine there are always quality issues. I am not a qualified heater tech. Best advice is to have a qualified professional check your furnace. That said I like to troubleshoot my own equipment. A troubleshooting chart should be easy enough to locate. Could be a simple cheap thermal coupler issue or a more complex gas pressure problem. My heater has an alignment issue where the spark can not light the pilot, requiring lighting through the port. Hope you can sort out your pilot issue.
Thanks , can i leave the heater on overnight when go to sleep ?
Yes. This heater can be left running constantly day and night.
Just about to install one and have some concerns with exposed propane tanks in extreme cold - say -15 fahrenheit. Have you run those tanks at or below that temp? any problems?
Claim is that propane is good to -44 degrees F as that is a liquid/ gas temperature. I have lived most of my life in regions with -25 degrees F and vast majority of houses using outdoor propane storage. Doubt you will experience an issue. However alway have a backup plan of some kind for Murphy’s Law. Thanks for watching.
i bought the 30,000 btu model and have been looking at the instructions while waiting for it to come. can the gas supply enter the unit from the bottom of the cover? that's what it looked like y'all did. in the instructions i have, it looks like the gas supply has to enter the unit from behind the cover, coming thru the wall, which would be more work for me based on the existing gas line, so if there was a way for the gas supply to come from the bottom for my installation that would be preferable. Thx!
I'm sorry but I don't know anything about the 30,000 BTU version. The 14,000 BTU furnace instructions had three different plumbing configurations that they recommended. I suggest contacting the manufacturer for options on your installation.
Great step by step video. Did you guy it with the LP already configured? I purchased a brand new one from an auction that is NG and need to convert it to propane
Yes, the heater we purchased was setup for LP. We changed the main jet (think it was the second video we did on this heater). Jet change was needed for our altitude. Thanks for watching… good luck with your conversion and installation.
Can the vent be converted to horizontal?I live in an area,that has wind.Comes in from different directions.Need to change the vent to go upward.
I assume you meant vertical. No do not see an option. Provided parts are just trough the wall.
You guys rock. Looking at the same furnace for my 1938 tamarack log cabin on Lake Superior in the UP of Michigan. Only question is how the direct vent will react to high winds coming off the lake in November and December. Any experience you can share with operating the furnace in high winds?
I wasn't finding a lot of information on this furnace so thought it important to share what I could figure out. Our installation is fairly protected with all the trees and nearby building. I understand the concern regarding the vent. The simplistic design of the furnace should not be a big issue in wind as the vent and baffling for intake and exhaust seem to be of decent design. The furnace itself is of poor design for efficiency. Stand alone, it is good for putting heat into a place with no need for power, however, I think using a powered fan would be worth the effort from our solar system to push heat off of the heater and improve efficiency. We will most likely have updates to the things we use in our videos if it helps others with their needs. Thank you for watching!
You forgot to install roxul Mineral wool high temperature insulation around your air intake pipe in the wall , so now around the heater the wall will get cold , plus , for extra protection for rainy days outside you should of put caulking around the vent cap , plus the thermostat you installed is a cheap one , you should of installed a digital thermostat, and one major thing that little heater is NOT ! Strong enough to heat that garage , you would need at least 35 000 Btu’s
The heater is installed per manufacturer instructions. Insulation per that installation. The vent cap was caulked on the outside. The Honeywell thermostat is indeed cheap and provides poor heat regulation. It does not require batteries making the whole heat system electric free. Propane is the only energy involved. Our heater is in a 120 square foot off-grid cabin so 14000 btu is plenty of heat.
Is the pilot stay on all the way 24/7? My pilot is on and wall controller is off but the heater is still giving off heat from the top. First time using, I just installed it. Any tips or suggestions, should I let it run for a while
Yes, the pilot light runs constantly when you want heat from thermostat setting. These are not very sophisticated heater. You have to light the pilot when you want heat and turn the pilot and gas or LP off when you do not want heat. The first time or two that the heater runs there will be odor from oil in metal and paint that may require venting room. After that, there should be no odors. These are not efficient heaters and leaving the pilot running without a real need for heat will use gas for no benefit.
Great thanks for the reply. I have this in my ADU unit that has a tenant, my old long wall gas heater would have a small fire lit (the pilot) 24/7 then when we turned out thermostat on the heat would come on until it reached the temperature we set it to and go back to a small flame (just the pilot lit). Does this heater work the same way? Meaning the flame(pilot) just lit enough to stay on until I turn up the thermostat then it would kick on.
@@jcespinoza6293 missed this. Yes the pilot light stays on after you light it. The pilot stays on until you turn it off. The thermostat gets it power from the pilot light heat. So, pilot has to be on for thermostat to function.
Were you able to hook up the gas lines yourself or did you have to have a specialist come and do that
This is all within the realm of “do it yourself”. If you understand pipe fittings and correct sealants and use correctly rated parts. All parts in our videos for this furnace are correct for propane installation. If there is any part of such an installation that confuses you, defiantly get professional help. Also check with your local building permit dept to ensure you can legally do connections. Our install had no restricting law, we did careful work and checked connections with leak detector solution (soap bubbles). Thank you for watching!
@@SpencersMountain did all pipes and fittings come with heater or did u sorce urself?
@@tpike46w Yes, sourced my own install parts. The heater did not include any hook up parts. You will also need a thermostat as that and wire is not included. I even used different screws than the ones provided for mounting. Old fashion round head slotted screws provided are a waste of time/ effort. I recommend downloading manuals before buying. Here is our playlist for this furnace with unboxing, parts collection and install. Williams 14000BTU Propane Furnace
ruclips.net/p/PLqbvRJ6oY7GQGipf1spKc6R7_FDFOwMkp
What happens if you use an lp tank like yours but without the pressure regulator? I have a direct line I used from an RV lp tank to my buddy heater without the regulator. Just bought a Williams and wanted to know.
First off...i am not a professional in this area. Consult manufacturer for correct use of your furnace. The furnace manual specified a regulator was required. Regulators are not expensive. I used a switching regulator that is attached to two open LPG cylinder, the valve can automatically switch tanks when one goes empty. Safety systems and sensing in gas valves can have frustrating results if any part of a system is not correct. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@SpencersMountain thanks. I found out after I posted my question that the buddy heaters have a regulator built in. This makes sense. I trust that your setup with the small lp tank works ok? That was what I planned to use.
@@tzavitz I did run the Williams heater on 20 lb tanks, against manufacturer recommendation. Depending on usage, it is a small amount of fuel and does not last a long time. I still used the recommended regulator with the small tanks. We are now using 100# cylinders with the change over for two tanks. Just means you don't have a cold heater in the middle of the night. Hope everything works out for you;
@@SpencersMountain I plan to use my two RV 30# tanks with my dual regulator like you did. I’m only heating a small workshop that is away from the house so the duration of my heating times will likely be in 4-5 hour segments. Thanks for the information and for all you do on your channel!
I got my heater installed today and it works great. Your video got me over the DIY hump by showing the installation and making it look “doable”. Thanks for posting it! You have the only Williams install video on RUclips!
What gauge wire did you use for the thermostat and how far did you mount it from the heater? Thank you.
I am sorry I had not seen this comment. I used a two wire condutor specifically intended for thermostat usage. Only one red and one white wire. I believe my wire is 20 gauge with up to 18 recommended. This wire carries a very small current (valves usually rated at 750 millivolt for operation). We mounted the thermostat about 6 feet away from the heater about 5 feet high from the floor. Appears to be working OK in that location for us. The manual indicated a thermostat could be mounted on the side of the heater case.
picked up one of these 14000btu furnaces used on marketplace i need to get the conversion kit to go from nat gas to lp.
After a lot of hunting around, Menards had best price on Williams heaters and parts. Lower than direct from Willians.
@@SpencersMountain dont have menards in canada i ended up order the part from a site in canada last night 187 cad. :>
@@Barret_Radtke not a huge expense, but the parts can't possibly cost that much...assume it is part of overhead cost. At least you should be up and running soon. Watch the part of our heater videos where we change the orifice, we found a simpler route than the instruction provide.
@@SpencersMountain thats what we call the canadian tax. 145.43 + 33.02 shipping. hope i get it before it gets cold they aparently dont have it in stock so i might have to wait a bit.
@@Barret_Radtke ouch...yeah that is a bit of s hit. Don't know why simple everyday devices have to be so costly. And, this one of the cheaper unit in this type. Hope you are up and running soon!
Where do I get a regulator like that🙂
You want a 2 stage automatic switching propane regulator. Easy to search for online. Or, most box stores or farm store should offer similar regulators. Be sure to match your propane connector pigtails to your tank connectors. Thanks for asking.
What’s the trick to getting the cover on? We just bought a 30,000 btu one. Instructions are useless.
Sorry, did not see this until now. Hopefully you got the cover back on. The thin sheet metal doesn’t fit all that well. You have to align the cover and then flex it slightly to go in place. Another set of hands would help. Good luck. Thanks for watching. We did make a couple videos on this heater. The second video, we had to make some internal modifications for our high altitude. Maybe something in there?
Cut the putty strip were it got stuck together with a knife
Thats a CHEAP heater
About as low cost as you can go for a non-portable wall mount heater and doesn’t have an open flame to the room. However the 67% efficiency is pretty disappointing. You get what you par for. Thank you for watching.