I honestly never understood why killing walkers on the fence wasn't a main priority in the prison. Sure, it sucks, but dirty jobs will always exist and especially one that important should have been carried out at ALL times. We see Rick farming and there's just a horde piled up on the fence with no one taking care of it, no wonder they got sick. Also, Alpha's camp was a joke, imagine being in the woods. There you go, that's it. How in the hell did anyone follow her? "Hey guys lets run around in the woods with corpses, smell like shit, treat each other terribly, and kill our babies" Psh yeah right.
I'd like to think of the Prison is meant to be a lesson for Rick and the group not to get too comfortable and lazy within the confines of the home base. The relied too much on the fence for security and that hubris lead to them not constantly mopping up the hordes of zombies and getting rid of the corpses outside the parameters, which slowly weakened not only the fence over time, but their sense of danger outside of the fence. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it and it looked like a cool set piece to have in the back whenever they were outside.
they followed alpha for 2 reasons: -they used to have another leader who may have run things differently -they never seemed to die from walkers or other stuff like the rest of the communities. when people can't fight or grow stuff, they're pretty much worthless so they can't really start a community themselves because they can't clear a building and they also can't help in any other meaningful way to put things into working condition, because they can cook or clean but a farmer can do that too, so they only serve a purpose in a well established setting
The sad thing about the vatos is that they were fighting a losing war. Once gang members, they chose to do good, even in a world that would punish them for doing so…
@@tetraxis3011 To be fair to the doctors and nurses, it was a very tough decision. Chances are they probably had their own families, loved ones, who they wanted to keep safe. Looking after the very elderly at that assisted living center was a gargantuan task. As well as those individuals being vulnerable, they were unable to contribute much to their own upkeep in terms of scavenging for supplies and defense. It was also a task that would be theirs for life. It was initially a job, they did it for money, but now due to the apocalypse do we expect them to do it for the rest of their life? The gang deserve admiration for their courageous and virtuous act, but I don't think we can particularly condemn the doctors and nurses for not signing the rest of their life away in a post apocalyptic society. After all, very few would make the decision the gang members did.
Should be included, the Greene's farm is at the middle of nowhere with swamps around (making zombies *cough cough* WALKERS- get stuck), good farming and silent, so walkers would probably turn around and never break in if you keep the lights off... (Sorry any english mistakes, btw)
Hershel's Farm is a pretty decent set up for a settlement on the apocalypse, one they have the advantage for agriculture where they can farm the land, and if they did well with maintaining their livestock, they have a reliable food source Plus the farm is far off isolated enough that most Walkers wouldn't really be coming by, with only the odd 1 or 2 or even 3 occassionally passing through, though they'll mostly be stuck in the swamps and streams, or deep in the forest. But still far enough that they wouldn't be a problem for long Really the only main downside of the farm is that it isn't exactly that well set in protecting them against potential hostile survivors and raiders The farm is too open to reliably cover, and they don't enough strong structure to defend from or hold out in. And made worst that it is a farm, any desperate survivor would recognize generally that a farm is a good location for food and supplies or basic shelter. So it is only a matter of time before a raider decides to plunder it for themselves But all in all, the farm is a decent settlement
It was the golden Era of the walking dead. This was during the times where we would be dying for the next episode and huddling up to the TV when the new episode came on its my favorite Era too
@gregoryellory9760 not to mention the story has just gotten tired. When it first came out it was new and special but 13 years later these new seasons feel like every other zombie show/movie made today
@powcod7455 I think they should of just stuck with the Rick Grimes movies plan because they could've spaced them out which would be more time for production values
The kingdom eventually fell tho, that was the whole point of them leaving was beacuse the kingdom became unsustainable. I forgot specifically how it happened but they everually lost water and agriculture i believe
It was structure issues because they were built around a school and didn’t have anyone to keep up with maintaining the plumbing properly. But this is 10 years into the apocalypse so they did pretty well for a long time.
the water system failed because it was too old to repair and even then they didn't have any plumber or even proper parts, so a fire destroyed a big part of it. they lost agriculture because there was a pest they couldn't get rid of which caused them to burn everything and start from scratch. they only lost food because they didn't think of separating crops enough for them to not all catch that thing
Honestly, I think the remains of each group should have just flocked to one place and set up a mega colony after the Savior wars. Every group lost people and infrastructure, alot of people, and they should have just looted what was useful from the bases not selected for all of them to live at. Granted, they would have to decide what place to completely fortify, and the tension between the remaining saviors and the other survivors hadn't simmered at all, but it would ultimately be the right choice. Dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket, but you'd have all the resources going to one location, not spread out between all the other ones.
but they were though. lol. community simply means group of people. generally i think it means "community" also having fixed location. being that they roamed over everything their community was simply roaming walkers lol
@@dwayneb1047Pretty sure thats called nomads, traveling group of people that dont have fixed location, they have a route they go around, make shelters/spots to sleep the night or few days, but usually leave soon to the next spot. You could imagine it like traveling circus, it comes to a city, stays for few days maybe a week then goes to another city.
Exactly. I guess the only thing that makes the whisperers a “community” over the claimers is that they had more people, the claimers were just a gang of around 10 or less people
@@josephstalin2606 Oh yea that makes sense. It's still a trip that Rick spent more time (3x the years) with the CRM and Anne/Jadis than he did with his group.
1:18 The “Vatos” genuinely had a HUGE opportunity for themselves. However like you said, they lived with people who could die out of nowhere. AND they made empty threats for no reason lmao
Good to have you back Captain! I always like that one of the biggest political advantages the Kingdom had during the saviors reign was that they were paired with Gavin, the one 'reasonable' Savior general. Who allowed second chances and the arrangement to go on largely behind-the-scenes at Ezekiels wishes. Also, Tiger
@@TheRealCaptainGoldSimon did a very bad job with the scavengers. Dude may as well have enslaved them and the saviours could have dozens of new slaves to do the worst tasks while KING NEGAN is as kind as it gets and relieves some of his lower ranking subjects from harsh labour.
Im just cringing every time he randomly and unnecessary says "fucking". Like bro relax, lmao. Can make 16min video but doesn't know how to curse properly.....
I like The Kingdom. Their community was both rural and suburban combined, originally a military fort and had farm crops. The only downside was that the fire eventually broke out.
im pretty sure he didn't talk about the reapers because they weren't much of a community, just a murderous group that didn't necessarily take anyone in.
@@First-Name--Last-Name They did take people in. One of the questions they'd ask survivors is if they'd dine on LONG PIG to survive lol. If the survivor said yes then they'd take them in.
@@GiuseppeDeRosa2001 I didn’t consider them a community. If they were, I’d probably place them somewhere in Silver. They got s*** done despite their lack of raw manpower.
@@TheRealCaptainGold I wouldn't call a group of ex-military/mercenary badasses lack of raw manpower. They only got wiped out because Maggie was pissed and Gabriel wanted to give what is probably the coldest line in the whole show.
I love the dragon ball video game music in the background 🤣 that brought back many fond childhood memories on top of going through TWD communities. Great video!!
As someone that used to work in a retirement home. I couldn't imagine just leaving them there and fucking off. The Vatos if for nothing else were honorable to the end.
Woodbury is gold, but Prison is silver... this is insane. Ricks group snuck into Newberry once a week and had no fighting abilities outside of like 5 dudes. Yeah, the prison needed a stronger fence. The fence in the mean time was fine. Id just prioritize burying either scavenged 4x4's or just tree trunks in front of it and tie it to the fence, double reinforcement itd be like colonial forts. As they rotted they could just be replaced. Some extra chain link poles that you can find everywhere would've also helped. Also you can do a make shift sugi ban with a bonfire and old motor oil to drastically slow the wood rot. Sickness comes with every growing community, but you can limit with quarantine and mandatory cell lockups at night so if someone turns they can't kill the whole cell block. The only true critique about the prison is the optics, every scumbag in the state knows about the place and what it has and will think to go there. Its a good idea and so the PR would make it uninhabitable. Functionally, it's platinum tier though. Those things have workshops, infirmary, armory, kitchen, library, huge yards, isolation wards, plenty of beds, clothes, facilities, power generators, communication abilities, watch towers, fortifications, vehicles. But no, a 4 block town is better equipped...
They only managed to sneak into Woodbury because Michonne had used her time there to find a way back in. By the end of the next day they had found the weak point they used and reinforced it as well as other potentially weak areas. Rick and the group were also far above the capabilities of average survivors by that time. If the Governor had defeated the prison then his new training regiments would have seen the majority of Woodbury become capable fighters. They also had far more room for expansion and facility adaptability than the prison as they were already planning on adding new space in the town of Woodbury as well as their overall territory of influence.
I'm still pondering where all the bodies from all those walkers vanished to once they received the jabs and in reality that fence line would have been so full of flies, maggots and vermin they alone would probably cause another outbreak but y'alls commander and chief Rick put his people up front and personal with them all day and night.
I would rather die as someone who did everything to save someone than die as a some who did everything to survive which included killing and assaulting people
Lmao at that "zombie" at the right side of the screen at 2:07, who's literally just a guy with with his face painted kinda white. They really cheaped out on some of the makeup and practical effects at different parts of the show
God this is such a cool list. I think you could do a follow up of all these communities fighting each other & seeing who wins. I mean, it probably comes down to the Whisperers & Saviors. I know our boy Gold poo poo's on the Whisperers. And while I tend to agree with his points. In universe the Whisperers were a literal major threat to our fully formed coalition. It's even partially implied that the death of Alpha is the only reason our heroes survived. Seemingly if Alpha lived to lead the full war the Whisperers likely would've won. I still think the Saviors simply had the military might to beat the Whisperers. So my bet being the Saviors edging that fight. But still seeing where they all rank against each other in combat could be cool. Damn this was a fun video! I do want to see more! The Spin Offs offer some fun enough new communities. I think Fear had enough variety of communities that you could do a video solely based on that 1 spin off. But all the other spin-offs at most have 2 seasons & limited groups per show. It's like max 3 communities worth talking about per show so all the other spin offs could be covered in their own video. That would at least give you 2 vids to make & make this a 3 part series. 4 part if you dedicate a final video to the bigger communities like commonwealth, CRM, Maybe even the regular military as seen at the start of the apocalypse? I would also point out you missed the Reapers. While disappointing I think they were far better than anyone in shit or bronze. Also the Wolves, The Claimers & what not weren't mentioned. Maybe you can argue these groups are more nomadic raiders than communities which I'd tentatively agree with, in which case maybe a nomadic groups tier list would be fun?
This is why I don’t like communities like the CRM and Commonwealth. They just feel unrealistic to me. If you expect me to believe that modern military could fall to zombies just for groups with (let’s be generous) half of the power and equipment of the military to rise and create essentially whole cities. I just don’t buy it. I much prefer the more grounded communities we see throughout the first couple of seasons. It just felt more realistic that these people would make communities like those
thé CRM is the national gaurd of the state is Pennsylvania they changed their name to the CRM because they where not under american government control and order but their own sovereign state
Half the power of the US military? The CRM started as the philly national guard who opted out of operation cobalt. It was a city state that thrived with an effective army. Military command broke and resorted to mass bombardments instead of making dedicated strong points and arming it with an entire unit of NG. CRM thought of this, rebelled, formed their own command, structure and laws with some of THE best quality of life. It isnt too far fetched.
Tbf with FTWD and TOWL lore in mind it seems like there was basically a civil war between the National Guard/Airforce and the rest of the US military during the early outbreak, which contributed to it falling. It wasn’t just the zombies.
I think the vatos have my bonus points because of their mindset: they’re empathetic. Theyre willing to barter. Theyre a team who works together for a good cause. (Helping those who can’t.) But it wasn’t meant to last. As far as side groups go, theyre my fave underdogs.
Personally the Prison was the best settlement; if only there was an option and time to actually replace the chain link fence with fortified timber or cement walls with catwalks for perimeter overlook.
One thing that always really bugged me is that they never went to mt washington or even discussed it. Their entire reason for going tk D.C. (after finding out eugene was lying) was because they thought it there was their best for finding safety. A good chance there was still some govt or they'd have a fortifide camp loaded with supplies. Mt washington is a fallout shelter for VIPs built under a mountain. Its massive and can hold thousands for years completely sealed. I get they found Alexandria, but mt washington should still be an option as a backup, or to get supplies or at least checkout. Deanna was a congressman, she'd know all about it. Its like an hour from alexandria. They could've at least mentioned it away somehow.
Wood berry would have been the best except for the crazy guy running it. If not for Phillip, that town would have likely played a huge role in humanities comeback.
Plus how can Randall's group kill off the vatos if they were still in Philly at the time when the outbreak started? They couldn't arrive to Atlanta that quickly!?
Whisperers at the bottom of the list and the Kingdom on Top. Very based. Also I know for some spinoffs, it might be too early. But, I wouldn't mind a list comprising of the communities in the Walking Dead spinoffs.
I been watching you for a while now and i gotta say, i like your way of thinking and your views on certain ethical topics, keep up the good work Captain Gold 😁
I think if you could pick up Alexandria and place it into Georgia you would have the best place to live by far, but given its geography in the show being so close to rival groups and the amount of Hordes it’s had problems with… I think I’d take Woodbury, like you said there’s no rival groups (if not for the Gov going loco at the prison) 😅 fantastic video I love these ranking videos 👍🔥
How to make the whisperers actually work. 1. Alpha and Beta should be charismatic leaders but ultimately replaceable. 2. Not killing their own people for no reason. 3. Actually having a plan for the future that threatens to render settled communities obsolete in practice.
Great video but I’d like to see where you would rank Martinez’s group with their trenches and the apartment building where Negan began to redeem himself in Maggie’s eyes by saving her kid. Also, might be a stretch to call one guy a “community,” but Gabriel’s church is interesting simply because of his huge food stores that lasted him over a year and his complete inability to fight the dead.
I personally would love to see you cover the spinoffs! I need to know I’m not the only one who watched them 😭 I got into twd to get to know my brother better, and over about the last 18~ months we have consumed nearly every piece of twd media. We have seen all webisodes with the exception of the Althea tapes, all of world beyond, all of dead city, 7.5 seasons of fear, all of the main show, all of Daryl Dixon, all of the ones who live, and have both played survival instinct. We are yet to play dead reckoning or any of the other cannon games to the show and have not seen tales yet. Edit: I also have some recommendations if anyone is interested in watching some of them. Just ask!
for the prison i always thought that their best bet was to just use a method to attract walkers away and then have a large team dig a trench like if they would have and it was big enough that would have stopped the cars hitting it or like maybe even the tank if its wide enough but like legit they couldve just made a big trench and have the only exit be towards the forest
the kingdom is barely gold. the plumbing was too old which ended up making it fall, and the crops died from a single pest they couldn't get rid of because they grew stuff too close to each other, which is a fatal mistake that didn't happen to hilltop or alexandria, who were taught to farm by actual farmers
It was mainly the plumbing issue and the boilers breaking, causing fires at the worst time. The Kingdom fell to a series of unfortunate events, not due to anything inherently wrong with it.
@TheRealCaptainGold having all the crops near each other is clearly a big issue and it affects them even without a pest around them, which is one of the two main reasons they fell, and the plumbing/boilers breaking is an inherent flaw to a place. you wouldn't buy a house that needs to be half torn down to be repaired so it doesn't destroy the whole building in 10 years or less, and it's even worse in the end of the world because you can't access the parts or the knowledge to do the swap. this wouldn't be an issue if the place itself could be rebuilt with chimneys and better insulation, but that would've been too hard and the place already had fire damage so there was no time
@ That’s fair. I’m just saying what happened within the lore - those were the main reasons for the fall. The fires caused from the boilers breaking and the pipes rupturing left the kingdom ruined. You could argue the crop situation could be worked around via trade. All the communities after the Savior War tended to help each other. For the most part. Things got less cordial after Rick left for some odd reason and they never expanded on it.
2:56 always thought the vatos got taken out by Governor because Meryl made comment that he found him bleeding out in Atlanta amd how he'd killed 16 men
The one thing that gets me about the later episodes, where we run into the Commonwealth and especially the CRM, is a complete lack of any tactical thinking by the people in charge. We see the CRM hauling shit around in Chinooks. All they need to do is locate a herd, ferry in a few sturdy cages that can hold ten or twenty troops, and drop them on the edge of the herd. The dead would swarm the cages, be unable to do anything, and just get butchered. When there's enough of them dead, hook the damn cages up to a chopper and fly the troops inside out. Better use of resources than gassing people to death for no reason. I guess they just had to go OTT for the big villain in The Ones Who Lived but it was ridiculous. Even the smaller communities could have done something similar by luring herds into a pre-prepared kill zone with an easy escape route, like a river, or the damn ocean with the settlement beside the sea. You'd clear so many dead. Then again, it was always about humans being more dangerous than the zombies.
Can't think of zombie apocalypses in a strategic way otherwise the whole story falls apart. In reality it would be contained within a year or 2 tops (maybe more in dense population centres such as China and India) but generally any above average military would obliterate a zombie horde easily. It's the single stragglers who would be the actual issue!
After watching the stupidity that unfolded after 2020, I dont have much faith in humanity surviving, remember, the virus was airborne in the TV shows canon, takes one of these idiots contaminating a city water source and some of those are literally open top, and it'll spread. In reality, I dont think this virus is about whether or not a national army can defeat it, but whether or not the world's health organization is effective enough at tracking and containing it. As well as educating the public in how to act around it. Trust in government institutions make it hard for this shit to work tho
An interesting idea I just had. Why didn't any of the groups take water from the streams and use a camp fire to sanitize it? They could have used that for cleaning at minimum.
Did you know one of the Volta gang one of the survivors made it to Woodbury if you watch it the one holding glen on the roof is also one of the governors right hand man so I wonder if Woodbury wiped out the gang but also imagine if the prison had the wolves from Alexandria would be the best place ever great content 🤘
I loved the vatos community, I have such fond memories of that point in the story and they really did try as hard as they could to create a safe place for themselves and the elderly. It was doomed to fail though, at that point not many people understood how the virus worked and as the elderly naturally passed they would be faced with the threat their corpses posed.
Greatest issue is someone going dead at night and then zombie messing about while most are likely asleep. Same thing happent in prison. Unexpected turnover into a zombie and then boom a whole section massacred.
feel like MOST communities would have a better opportunity of survival if never introduced to rick’s group LMAOOO, they seem to jsut show up, ruin everything and then blow the place up
Heh unfortunately this is not how it works. Yes I had the same feeling that shit went south quickly after they turned up anywhere. If I remember correctly they were not innocent in regards to the fight vs the governor of Woodbury. I think they did do things that could be considered acts of war before it all happent. Unfortunately while they do massively enhance some community's military capability they make more of that group than the group could be. I forget the smaller community they met after Alexandria which needed their help to get rid off those leaches aka the Saviors but that community was bound to be somebody's vassal. Yet we have to consider that the community was facing extreme taxation. I highly doubt they would get any protection when a zombie horde happens to stumble upon them. The Saviors left that community up for grabs to any1 who wanted to try taking over. Alexandria for sure eat the stick for being in the Rick's group sphere of influence. At the end of the day this is how it is supposed to be. The Rick's group comes and then the community feels thick and powerful so goes on the offensive to gain more for itself. The biggest mistake was when Rick and group attacked the satelite post of Saviors. They grossly underestimated the capability of their enemy. Hershel's farm was waiting for 1 horde to attack it before it was smoked. The Hospital group was at fault for its doom.
If you recall though, the truck itself didnt actually breach the wall. The wall only got breached because the tower next to the wall collapsed onto the wall.
the prison would have been prefect if they'd just taken the time and effort to dig a moat/berm around it. Even a dry one, unconnected to the nearby lake, would have been more than sufficient to guard against anything short of one of the mega herds that you see in season 8 onwards, and even the tank would have had trouble breaching the perimeter
Yeah. After all i found out that tanks are not that much 4 x4 vehicles. Their pressure on ground is smaller than that of a man. Yeah shocking but 1 has to consider how much they touch the ground with their massive chain tracks. So a good ditch could become a problem for a tank as the pressure on the ground will become disproportionally large if tank doesn't find a sufficient soil to go through. There is this topic of Russian tanks being much lighter than western made tanks in the Ukrainian war so. I think we got to see an impressive size horde while the group was at Alexandria in its earlier days. U might remember they lead that horde through barriers on their road and lead them to their doom in a massive hole. I thought that was not great due to the risk. The horde was on the bottom in a valley and trucks had blockaded its access north. Sure something has to be done as the zombies managed to go through blockade in tiny quantity but the horde was huge and things went out of control before managing to sort it out.
the walking dead could capitalize on the simulater games, imagine you could build in and survive one of these specific places, like i just keep imagining the prison but in the style of the forest but with like more stuff so like imagine just finding or making brick to then build up along the gate fences and next a layer of cinder blocks like ahhhhh ahha- idk
As a military force I would consider the whisperers to be one of the best. For the time they were in the show they were well equipped and their tactics are what kept them from being instantly annihilated by the communities.
I dont remember much of their equipment but their defence vs zombies was 2nd to none. Exsausting to think about the fact that others had to run from them when fuel ran out or transport broke down.
I think for whisperers to work, what you want is for them to be nomadic but somewhat more affluent (like real nomads who have universally had a better standard of living than the agrarian farmworker masses until the 20th fucking century). Though to be fair, their propaganda partly relies on living like the dead being the only sustainable way, so deliberately avoiding luxury is probably kind of to their benefit. Oh yeah, and having better leadership would probably help. Like actually caring about keeping your population of humans up.
I knew you were going to put the Kingdom at the top, because they had the best thriving community when introduced . If Negan wasn’t Negan , which caused damage , and then the whispers they could’ve survived indefinitely, once they got their water situation together.
really good list with great points, i never noticed terminus had any crops in it, the only thing i would say is you down played the hospital a bit because they had crops on the roof and in the dump im sure they all had shipping containers to sleep in, and you were Right about the whisperers they could be taken out by some non lethal weapon of some kind because you just need to let the walkers do the work for you after that then you can do your redirecting tactics to take care of them, they probably did wild food foraging mostly and some hunting to stay alive and taking from communities that they beat
Tbh I think he downplayed the whisperers just a tad. Okay they're a bit weird and don't have a great standard of living but their ability to deal with and even control zombies is second to none. No other community except maybe the commonwealth and civic republic come anywhere close to their effectiveness and in the latters case it's only because they have an experienced, large and well stocked military. The whisperers walk among and control the herd at their disposal. Realistically nobody is getting close to their camps as to do so they need to go through thousands of zombies to do so. Their philosophy isn't too great, sure, but its worked well enough.
@@Powergenetic The greatest advantage they have is stealth among zombies. If enemy targets 1 of them and that person gets hit he or she is done but rest can move on. The issue with them is that what they do isn't living. They merely survive. They do not live like humans and at some point they will be more like animals than humans. It is great to be able to control zombies ngl.
@@gerardmcquade9102 Tbf to Daryl and the main cast like their plot armour is so thick that they would survive a massive explosion using nothing but a wet tarp ... Wait a second ... Controlling zombies was always something that annoyed me though post whisperers. They knew it worked, they'd seen it work, they had a veteran whisperer among the community in Lydia but rarely ever tried to employ those methods for herding zombies. It made ZERO sense. Like, if you're on a looting run why wouldn't you just loot somewhere while disguised as a walker? Or at least clear said area with the disguise?
But the whisperers do their business out of their camps as Alpha said when Negan went up to her and apologized she said that it was for hygiene purposes not privacy but yea everything else was really bad and it also doesn’t make sense that the people from terminus decided to just change to agriculture or some other way to get food after all that time also great vid
Not a community. Literally just a house with 3 people briefly living in it. No fences, broken door, and no steady access to food and water. Hardly a shelter at that point.
Its bad when u think about the matter of their extreme potential over others. This group could make its own safe heaven since it could control zombies. Smelling like them allows the humans to get close and investigate their numbers to then just butcher them all. Look after a big area and lead the horde around that safe heaven. Outside we live like shits and smell like shits but once at base they could live so fine. No other group thought of that defence. Jee they do not have to run from zombies. That is a huge plus. No need to waste bullets for nothing.
Just subscribed to your channel. I honestly was sick of TWX because I was there for season 2-7, heard from friends about season 1 and was there for the Taletell series. I prefer Invincible more. However, watching the Telltale series and stumbling onto your channel made like it again.
I honestly never understood why killing walkers on the fence wasn't a main priority in the prison. Sure, it sucks, but dirty jobs will always exist and especially one that important should have been carried out at ALL times. We see Rick farming and there's just a horde piled up on the fence with no one taking care of it, no wonder they got sick.
Also, Alpha's camp was a joke, imagine being in the woods. There you go, that's it. How in the hell did anyone follow her? "Hey guys lets run around in the woods with corpses, smell like shit, treat each other terribly, and kill our babies" Psh yeah right.
I'd like to think of the Prison is meant to be a lesson for Rick and the group not to get too comfortable and lazy within the confines of the home base. The relied too much on the fence for security and that hubris lead to them not constantly mopping up the hordes of zombies and getting rid of the corpses outside the parameters, which slowly weakened not only the fence over time, but their sense of danger outside of the fence. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it and it looked like a cool set piece to have in the back whenever they were outside.
they followed alpha for 2 reasons:
-they used to have another leader who may have run things differently
-they never seemed to die from walkers or other stuff like the rest of the communities.
when people can't fight or grow stuff, they're pretty much worthless so they can't really start a community themselves because they can't clear a building and they also can't help in any other meaningful way to put things into working condition, because they can cook or clean but a farmer can do that too, so they only serve a purpose in a well established setting
If the writers had any logic show wouldn't be terrible,
to be fair they didnt even consider they could get sick from walkers, and if the fence is holding no need to waste energy
dumb decisions just to create a story lol
The sad thing about the vatos is that they were fighting a losing war. Once gang members, they chose to do good, even in a world that would punish them for doing so…
Especially when you find out the doctors and nurses all just abandoned the elderly they were sworn to protect so the vatos had to step in.
@ Yeah. Those nurses and doctors were Terrible people.
@@tetraxis3011 To be fair to the doctors and nurses, it was a very tough decision. Chances are they probably had their own families, loved ones, who they wanted to keep safe. Looking after the very elderly at that assisted living center was a gargantuan task. As well as those individuals being vulnerable, they were unable to contribute much to their own upkeep in terms of scavenging for supplies and defense. It was also a task that would be theirs for life. It was initially a job, they did it for money, but now due to the apocalypse do we expect them to do it for the rest of their life?
The gang deserve admiration for their courageous and virtuous act, but I don't think we can particularly condemn the doctors and nurses for not signing the rest of their life away in a post apocalyptic society. After all, very few would make the decision the gang members did.
@@S.pilgrim great answer thx👍
3:46 "the Governor's aggressive foreign policy" is certainly one way to put it 💀
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He conducted a Special Military Operation against the Prison
@@chaoticwj1772 lmfao
Bro is one greedy lil bastard, and a turd@enemote
Communities is the coolest things about post apoc stories they all come in diffrent shapes and sizes
Immortan joe’s army from mad max would solo all of these communities ngl
Heh it’s you from the cooldee video
@@ELPez276hehe yes
Ikr they’re so skibidi
If you think about it it’s exactly like ancient times all tiny city states trying to fend off raiders (now zombies too)
Idk why I expected Hershel's Farm to be on this list lmao.
Should be included, the Greene's farm is at the middle of nowhere with swamps around (making zombies *cough cough* WALKERS- get stuck), good farming and silent, so walkers would probably turn around and never break in if you keep the lights off...
(Sorry any english mistakes, btw)
Hershel's Farm is a pretty decent set up for a settlement on the apocalypse, one they have the advantage for agriculture where they can farm the land, and if they did well with maintaining their livestock, they have a reliable food source
Plus the farm is far off isolated enough that most Walkers wouldn't really be coming by, with only the odd 1 or 2 or even 3 occassionally passing through, though they'll mostly be stuck in the swamps and streams, or deep in the forest. But still far enough that they wouldn't be a problem for long
Really the only main downside of the farm is that it isn't exactly that well set in protecting them against potential hostile survivors and raiders
The farm is too open to reliably cover, and they don't enough strong structure to defend from or hold out in. And made worst that it is a farm, any desperate survivor would recognize generally that a farm is a good location for food and supplies or basic shelter. So it is only a matter of time before a raider decides to plunder it for themselves
But all in all, the farm is a decent settlement
It felt like a community
As almost entite season 2 is in hershell's farm
Well I expected Randall’s group as the only group to be mentioned from that season
@@vardiganxpl1698 Yes, the farm only got destroyed by Shane's shot, or else that horde would simply pass far away from the farm :/
Woodbury and the prison will always have a special place in my heart
@@gregoryellory9760 sameee
It was the golden Era of the walking dead. This was during the times where we would be dying for the next episode and huddling up to the TV when the new episode came on its my favorite Era too
@powcod7455 plus there was a bit more mystery to the storylines I hate the amount of "leaks" that happen nowadays
@gregoryellory9760 not to mention the story has just gotten tired. When it first came out it was new and special but 13 years later these new seasons feel like every other zombie show/movie made today
@powcod7455 I think they should of just stuck with the Rick Grimes movies plan because they could've spaced them out which would be more time for production values
The kingdom eventually fell tho, that was the whole point of them leaving was beacuse the kingdom became unsustainable. I forgot specifically how it happened but they everually lost water and agriculture i believe
it got burned down
It was structure issues because they were built around a school and didn’t have anyone to keep up with maintaining the plumbing properly. But this is 10 years into the apocalypse so they did pretty well for a long time.
I think the snowstorm caused irreparable damage.
the water system failed because it was too old to repair and even then they didn't have any plumber or even proper parts, so a fire destroyed a big part of it. they lost agriculture because there was a pest they couldn't get rid of which caused them to burn everything and start from scratch. they only lost food because they didn't think of separating crops enough for them to not all catch that thing
Honestly, I think the remains of each group should have just flocked to one place and set up a mega colony after the Savior wars. Every group lost people and infrastructure, alot of people, and they should have just looted what was useful from the bases not selected for all of them to live at. Granted, they would have to decide what place to completely fortify, and the tension between the remaining saviors and the other survivors hadn't simmered at all, but it would ultimately be the right choice. Dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket, but you'd have all the resources going to one location, not spread out between all the other ones.
I wouldn't even count The Whisperers as a community anymore than I would count The Claimers as one.
but they were though. lol. community simply means group of people. generally i think it means "community" also having fixed location. being that they roamed over everything their community was simply roaming walkers lol
They’re basically the same ? Moving around /setting up camps? Not only where they a Bigger group but also had territory
@@dwayneb1047Pretty sure thats called nomads, traveling group of people that dont have fixed location, they have a route they go around, make shelters/spots to sleep the night or few days, but usually leave soon to the next spot. You could imagine it like traveling circus, it comes to a city, stays for few days maybe a week then goes to another city.
Exactly. I guess the only thing that makes the whisperers a “community” over the claimers is that they had more people, the claimers were just a gang of around 10 or less people
Alexandria's top of the list IMO 7-8 years after the Savior War Kingdom couldn't sustain anymore yet Alexandria and everyone else left did.
The only community that should be beating it, is the Commonwealth.
You realize from episode 1 to when Rick got blown at the bridge was like 3 years right?
@@j33w22 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about after Rick getting blown up there was around 8-10 year time skip when Judith is grown up
@@josephstalin2606 Oh yea that makes sense. It's still a trip that Rick spent more time (3x the years) with the CRM and Anne/Jadis than he did with his group.
This guy says “fuck” or “fucking” for emphasis like 15 times and i laughed every one😭
Thats what makes it genuinely good to watch. No holding back on feelings on walkers lol
1:18 The “Vatos” genuinely had a HUGE opportunity for themselves. However like you said, they lived with people who could die out of nowhere. AND they made empty threats for no reason lmao
honestly wasn't expecting such a good video, many people don't really effectively analyze this show, you did great!
Good to have you back Captain!
I always like that one of the biggest political advantages the Kingdom had during the saviors reign was that they were paired with Gavin, the one 'reasonable' Savior general. Who allowed second chances and the arrangement to go on largely behind-the-scenes at Ezekiels wishes. Also, Tiger
@@jiggycalzone8585 Yeah, they really lucked out with Gavin. Dude should’ve honestly been Negan’s right hand instead of Simon.
@@TheRealCaptainGoldSimon did a very bad job with the scavengers. Dude may as well have enslaved them and the saviours could have dozens of new slaves to do the worst tasks while KING NEGAN is as kind as it gets and relieves some of his lower ranking subjects from harsh labour.
bros swearing like a middle schooler that just learned swear words
Yeah, it's super cringe.
@ “rick fUcKiNg grimes”
like dude who is this for
There's no problem with using these but the way he uses them don't even make sense at all
Im just cringing every time he randomly and unnecessary says "fucking". Like bro relax, lmao. Can make 16min video but doesn't know how to curse properly.....
serious +2 it actually makes the video much harder to watch!
You are cooking with this content, awesome video! 🤝
Yeeeea, I’ve been waiting on this one!
1:51 😂the fossils is crazzzy
Brutal . Heartless . 😂😂
I like The Kingdom. Their community was both rural and suburban combined, originally a military fort and had farm crops. The only downside was that the fire eventually broke out.
Surprised he didn’t add the reapers.
im pretty sure he didn't talk about the reapers because they weren't much of a community, just a murderous group that didn't necessarily take anyone in.
@@capitolcircleslike terminus took anyone in
@@First-Name--Last-Name They did take people in. One of the questions they'd ask survivors is if they'd dine on LONG PIG to survive lol. If the survivor said yes then they'd take them in.
@@GiuseppeDeRosa2001 I didn’t consider them a community. If they were, I’d probably place them somewhere in Silver. They got s*** done despite their lack of raw manpower.
@@TheRealCaptainGold I wouldn't call a group of ex-military/mercenary badasses lack of raw manpower. They only got wiped out because Maggie was pissed and Gabriel wanted to give what is probably the coldest line in the whole show.
I love the dragon ball video game music in the background 🤣 that brought back many fond childhood memories on top of going through TWD communities. Great video!!
Hershel's farm was the most peaceful one
As someone that used to work in a retirement home.
I couldn't imagine just leaving them there and fucking off.
The Vatos if for nothing else were honorable to the end.
blud just learned how to swear
Woodbury is gold, but Prison is silver... this is insane. Ricks group snuck into Newberry once a week and had no fighting abilities outside of like 5 dudes. Yeah, the prison needed a stronger fence. The fence in the mean time was fine. Id just prioritize burying either scavenged 4x4's or just tree trunks in front of it and tie it to the fence, double reinforcement itd be like colonial forts. As they rotted they could just be replaced. Some extra chain link poles that you can find everywhere would've also helped. Also you can do a make shift sugi ban with a bonfire and old motor oil to drastically slow the wood rot. Sickness comes with every growing community, but you can limit with quarantine and mandatory cell lockups at night so if someone turns they can't kill the whole cell block. The only true critique about the prison is the optics, every scumbag in the state knows about the place and what it has and will think to go there. Its a good idea and so the PR would make it uninhabitable. Functionally, it's platinum tier though. Those things have workshops, infirmary, armory, kitchen, library, huge yards, isolation wards, plenty of beds, clothes, facilities, power generators, communication abilities, watch towers, fortifications, vehicles. But no, a 4 block town is better equipped...
They only managed to sneak into Woodbury because Michonne had used her time there to find a way back in. By the end of the next day they had found the weak point they used and reinforced it as well as other potentially weak areas. Rick and the group were also far above the capabilities of average survivors by that time. If the Governor had defeated the prison then his new training regiments would have seen the majority of Woodbury become capable fighters. They also had far more room for expansion and facility adaptability than the prison as they were already planning on adding new space in the town of Woodbury as well as their overall territory of influence.
I'm still pondering where all the bodies from all those walkers vanished to once they received the jabs and in reality that fence line would have been so full of flies, maggots and vermin they alone would probably cause another outbreak but y'alls commander and chief Rick put his people up front and personal with them all day and night.
I love watching some captain gold while doing some hw…
the vatos, while weakest, were definitely the best and morally correct group. They didn't deserve to die like that.
Exactly. They refused to give in to the selfishness of the post apocalyptic world and tried to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
I would rather die as someone who did everything to save someone than die as a some who did everything to survive which included killing and assaulting people
I look forward to your awesome twd content and scenarios/explainers. Keep up the good work Captain Gold!
Lmao at that "zombie" at the right side of the screen at 2:07, who's literally just a guy with with his face painted kinda white. They really cheaped out on some of the makeup and practical effects at different parts of the show
God this is such a cool list. I think you could do a follow up of all these communities fighting each other & seeing who wins. I mean, it probably comes down to the Whisperers & Saviors. I know our boy Gold poo poo's on the Whisperers. And while I tend to agree with his points. In universe the Whisperers were a literal major threat to our fully formed coalition. It's even partially implied that the death of Alpha is the only reason our heroes survived. Seemingly if Alpha lived to lead the full war the Whisperers likely would've won. I still think the Saviors simply had the military might to beat the Whisperers. So my bet being the Saviors edging that fight. But still seeing where they all rank against each other in combat could be cool. Damn this was a fun video!
I do want to see more! The Spin Offs offer some fun enough new communities. I think Fear had enough variety of communities that you could do a video solely based on that 1 spin off. But all the other spin-offs at most have 2 seasons & limited groups per show. It's like max 3 communities worth talking about per show so all the other spin offs could be covered in their own video. That would at least give you 2 vids to make & make this a 3 part series. 4 part if you dedicate a final video to the bigger communities like commonwealth, CRM, Maybe even the regular military as seen at the start of the apocalypse?
I would also point out you missed the Reapers. While disappointing I think they were far better than anyone in shit or bronze. Also the Wolves, The Claimers & what not weren't mentioned. Maybe you can argue these groups are more nomadic raiders than communities which I'd tentatively agree with, in which case maybe a nomadic groups tier list would be fun?
@@jacob41057
I’ll be doing a Whisperers vs Saviors vid in the future
This is why I don’t like communities like the CRM and Commonwealth. They just feel unrealistic to me. If you expect me to believe that modern military could fall to zombies just for groups with (let’s be generous) half of the power and equipment of the military to rise and create essentially whole cities. I just don’t buy it. I much prefer the more grounded communities we see throughout the first couple of seasons. It just felt more realistic that these people would make communities like those
thé CRM is the national gaurd of the state is Pennsylvania they changed their name to the CRM because they where not under american government control and order but their own sovereign state
Half the power of the US military? The CRM started as the philly national guard who opted out of operation cobalt. It was a city state that thrived with an effective army. Military command broke and resorted to mass bombardments instead of making dedicated strong points and arming it with an entire unit of NG. CRM thought of this, rebelled, formed their own command, structure and laws with some of THE best quality of life.
It isnt too far fetched.
Both are plausible
Those communities didn't rise up from scratch. They survived the initial apocalypse and continued to thrive and adjust to the new world
Tbf with FTWD and TOWL lore in mind it seems like there was basically a civil war between the National Guard/Airforce and the rest of the US military during the early outbreak, which contributed to it falling. It wasn’t just the zombies.
Lmaoo It’s funny that I can see the hospital from my window
I think the vatos have my bonus points because of their mindset: they’re empathetic. Theyre willing to barter. Theyre a team who works together for a good cause. (Helping those who can’t.)
But it wasn’t meant to last.
As far as side groups go, theyre my fave underdogs.
You forgot the wolves and how they easily breeched Alexandria security.
Personally the Prison was the best settlement; if only there was an option and time to actually replace the chain link fence with fortified timber or cement walls with catwalks for perimeter overlook.
One thing that always really bugged me is that they never went to mt washington or even discussed it. Their entire reason for going tk D.C. (after finding out eugene was lying) was because they thought it there was their best for finding safety. A good chance there was still some govt or they'd have a fortifide camp loaded with supplies. Mt washington is a fallout shelter for VIPs built under a mountain. Its massive and can hold thousands for years completely sealed.
I get they found Alexandria, but mt washington should still be an option as a backup, or to get supplies or at least checkout. Deanna was a congressman, she'd know all about it. Its like an hour from alexandria. They could've at least mentioned it away somehow.
13:08 King easy kill? 😭
Wood berry would have been the best except for the crazy guy running it. If not for Phillip, that town would have likely played a huge role in humanities comeback.
I thought vatos got smacked out by the governor and his guys when they found Merle that makes sense to me
Plus how can Randall's group kill off the vatos if they were still in Philly at the time when the outbreak started? They couldn't arrive to Atlanta that quickly!?
Did anyone noticed the main guy from the “highway men” is Cisco in Lincoln lawyer
Whisperers at the bottom of the list and the Kingdom on Top.
Very based.
Also I know for some spinoffs, it might be too early. But, I wouldn't mind a list comprising of the communities in the Walking Dead spinoffs.
You are one of my fav RUclips channels for the walking dead with amazing content!!
I been watching you for a while now and i gotta say, i like your way of thinking and your views on certain ethical topics, keep up the good work Captain Gold 😁
I think if you could pick up Alexandria and place it into Georgia you would have the best place to live by far, but given its geography in the show being so close to rival groups and the amount of Hordes it’s had problems with… I think I’d take Woodbury, like you said there’s no rival groups (if not for the Gov going loco at the prison) 😅 fantastic video I love these ranking videos 👍🔥
Made my weekend Captain Gold!
How to make the whisperers actually work.
1. Alpha and Beta should be charismatic leaders but ultimately replaceable.
2. Not killing their own people for no reason.
3. Actually having a plan for the future that threatens to render settled communities obsolete in practice.
I would enjoy the spin offs being ranked to get a full picture
Would love to see where The Tower made. Loved Strand's ''Negan'' arc... ''Fear's Sanctuary'' making the same exact spot would be dope, heh
Great video but I’d like to see where you would rank Martinez’s group with their trenches and the apartment building where Negan began to redeem himself in Maggie’s eyes by saving her kid. Also, might be a stretch to call one guy a “community,” but Gabriel’s church is interesting simply because of his huge food stores that lasted him over a year and his complete inability to fight the dead.
I appreciate the dragon ball music from the games definitely gave me some nostalgia
Woodberry's only fault was that they were againts the "Main character"
I personally would love to see you cover the spinoffs! I need to know I’m not the only one who watched them 😭
I got into twd to get to know my brother better, and over about the last 18~ months we have consumed nearly every piece of twd media. We have seen all webisodes with the exception of the Althea tapes, all of world beyond, all of dead city, 7.5 seasons of fear, all of the main show, all of Daryl Dixon, all of the ones who live, and have both played survival instinct. We are yet to play dead reckoning or any of the other cannon games to the show and have not seen tales yet.
Edit: I also have some recommendations if anyone is interested in watching some of them. Just ask!
Rank them please.
for the prison i always thought that their best bet was to just use a method to attract walkers away and then have a large team dig a trench like if they would have and it was big enough that would have stopped the cars hitting it or like maybe even the tank if its wide enough but like legit they couldve just made a big trench and have the only exit be towards the forest
my man swears so politely w insane elegance
the kingdom is barely gold. the plumbing was too old which ended up making it fall, and the crops died from a single pest they couldn't get rid of because they grew stuff too close to each other, which is a fatal mistake that didn't happen to hilltop or alexandria, who were taught to farm by actual farmers
It was mainly the plumbing issue and the boilers breaking, causing fires at the worst time. The Kingdom fell to a series of unfortunate events, not due to anything inherently wrong with it.
@TheRealCaptainGold having all the crops near each other is clearly a big issue and it affects them even without a pest around them, which is one of the two main reasons they fell, and the plumbing/boilers breaking is an inherent flaw to a place. you wouldn't buy a house that needs to be half torn down to be repaired so it doesn't destroy the whole building in 10 years or less, and it's even worse in the end of the world because you can't access the parts or the knowledge to do the swap.
this wouldn't be an issue if the place itself could be rebuilt with chimneys and better insulation, but that would've been too hard and the place already had fire damage so there was no time
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That’s fair. I’m just saying what happened within the lore - those were the main reasons for the fall. The fires caused from the boilers breaking and the pipes rupturing left the kingdom ruined. You could argue the crop situation could be worked around via trade. All the communities after the Savior War tended to help each other. For the most part. Things got less cordial after Rick left for some odd reason and they never expanded on it.
Bro curses like he just learned how to
Wolf's easily got onto Alexandria. BEST FOOD SOUCE WAS HERSHALS FARM 🚜
another amazing captain gold video, keep up these videos bro
2:56 always thought the vatos got taken out by Governor because Meryl made comment that he found him bleeding out in Atlanta amd how he'd killed 16 men
The one thing that gets me about the later episodes, where we run into the Commonwealth and especially the CRM, is a complete lack of any tactical thinking by the people in charge. We see the CRM hauling shit around in Chinooks. All they need to do is locate a herd, ferry in a few sturdy cages that can hold ten or twenty troops, and drop them on the edge of the herd. The dead would swarm the cages, be unable to do anything, and just get butchered. When there's enough of them dead, hook the damn cages up to a chopper and fly the troops inside out. Better use of resources than gassing people to death for no reason. I guess they just had to go OTT for the big villain in The Ones Who Lived but it was ridiculous. Even the smaller communities could have done something similar by luring herds into a pre-prepared kill zone with an easy escape route, like a river, or the damn ocean with the settlement beside the sea. You'd clear so many dead. Then again, it was always about humans being more dangerous than the zombies.
Can't think of zombie apocalypses in a strategic way otherwise the whole story falls apart. In reality it would be contained within a year or 2 tops (maybe more in dense population centres such as China and India) but generally any above average military would obliterate a zombie horde easily. It's the single stragglers who would be the actual issue!
After watching the stupidity that unfolded after 2020, I dont have much faith in humanity surviving, remember, the virus was airborne in the TV shows canon, takes one of these idiots contaminating a city water source and some of those are literally open top, and it'll spread.
In reality, I dont think this virus is about whether or not a national army can defeat it, but whether or not the world's health organization is effective enough at tracking and containing it. As well as educating the public in how to act around it.
Trust in government institutions make it hard for this shit to work tho
I love the Budokai (Tenkaichi?) Music around 9:30
8:59 song is called challengers from dbz budokai 2
An interesting idea I just had. Why didn't any of the groups take water from the streams and use a camp fire to sanitize it? They could have used that for cleaning at minimum.
For real I was thinking maybe if there is a bunch of dead bodies in it idk only reason I could think of
Or just the chance of getting sick and dying from dysentery in the apocalypse would suck 😂
@@bleath2111still, no bacteria can survive being boiled.
@@bleath2111weren’t they already infected?also wouldn’t boiling the water kill the bacteria?
They did that in the quarry camp in season one. The old rock quarry had a huge supply of water that they were drawing from and boiling daily.
Did you know one of the Volta gang one of the survivors made it to Woodbury if you watch it the one holding glen on the roof is also one of the governors right hand man so I wonder if Woodbury wiped out the gang but also imagine if the prison had the wolves from Alexandria would be the best place ever great content 🤘
Yes would be epic to see the spin of communities in the other shows
I love zombies !!!
I loved the vatos community, I have such fond memories of that point in the story and they really did try as hard as they could to create a safe place for themselves and the elderly. It was doomed to fail though, at that point not many people understood how the virus worked and as the elderly naturally passed they would be faced with the threat their corpses posed.
Greatest issue is someone going dead at night and then zombie messing about while most are likely asleep. Same thing happent in prison. Unexpected turnover into a zombie and then boom a whole section massacred.
The shot at Maggies character lmao
im so obsessed with TWD lore
Vatos were ranked correctly. Staying in the middle of a big city during the apocalypse is insane
feel like MOST communities would have a better opportunity of survival if never introduced to rick’s group LMAOOO, they seem to jsut show up, ruin everything and then blow the place up
Heh unfortunately this is not how it works. Yes I had the same feeling that shit went south quickly after they turned up anywhere. If I remember correctly they were not innocent in regards to the fight vs the governor of Woodbury. I think they did do things that could be considered acts of war before it all happent. Unfortunately while they do massively enhance some community's military capability they make more of that group than the group could be. I forget the smaller community they met after Alexandria which needed their help to get rid off those leaches aka the Saviors but that community was bound to be somebody's vassal. Yet we have to consider that the community was facing extreme taxation. I highly doubt they would get any protection when a zombie horde happens to stumble upon them. The Saviors left that community up for grabs to any1 who wanted to try taking over. Alexandria for sure eat the stick for being in the Rick's group sphere of influence.
At the end of the day this is how it is supposed to be. The Rick's group comes and then the community feels thick and powerful so goes on the offensive to gain more for itself. The biggest mistake was when Rick and group attacked the satelite post of Saviors. They grossly underestimated the capability of their enemy. Hershel's farm was waiting for 1 horde to attack it before it was smoked. The Hospital group was at fault for its doom.
11:46 Eugene’s LITERAL betrayal 😭
9:58 or human error (5x15), or a semi truck moving at a moderate speed (6x01)
If you recall though, the truck itself didnt actually breach the wall. The wall only got breached because the tower next to the wall collapsed onto the wall.
good video, but did this guy just learn the word "fuck" yesterday?
Very underrated channel also i loved this video!
the prison would have been prefect if they'd just taken the time and effort to dig a moat/berm around it. Even a dry one, unconnected to the nearby lake, would have been more than sufficient to guard against anything short of one of the mega herds that you see in season 8 onwards, and even the tank would have had trouble breaching the perimeter
Yeah. After all i found out that tanks are not that much 4 x4 vehicles. Their pressure on ground is smaller than that of a man. Yeah shocking but 1 has to consider how much they touch the ground with their massive chain tracks. So a good ditch could become a problem for a tank as the pressure on the ground will become disproportionally large if tank doesn't find a sufficient soil to go through. There is this topic of Russian tanks being much lighter than western made tanks in the Ukrainian war so. I think we got to see an impressive size horde while the group was at Alexandria in its earlier days. U might remember they lead that horde through barriers on their road and lead them to their doom in a massive hole. I thought that was not great due to the risk. The horde was on the bottom in a valley and trucks had blockaded its access north. Sure something has to be done as the zombies managed to go through blockade in tiny quantity but the horde was huge and things went out of control before managing to sort it out.
The addition of "Fucking" to Rick's full name should be canonized.
the walking dead could capitalize on the simulater games, imagine you could build in and survive one of these specific places,
like i just keep imagining the prison but in the style of the forest but with like more stuff so like imagine just finding or making brick to then build up along the gate fences and next a layer of cinder blocks like ahhhhh ahha- idk
The Budokai Tenkaichi music in the background 🔥
*_It's Terminus because those who arrive, survive..._*
As a military force I would consider the whisperers to be one of the best. For the time they were in the show they were well equipped and their tactics are what kept them from being instantly annihilated by the communities.
I dont remember much of their equipment but their defence vs zombies was 2nd to none. Exsausting to think about the fact that others had to run from them when fuel ran out or transport broke down.
I agree with everything, but the bar maybe swapping the governor and the prison
I think for whisperers to work, what you want is for them to be nomadic but somewhat more affluent (like real nomads who have universally had a better standard of living than the agrarian farmworker masses until the 20th fucking century). Though to be fair, their propaganda partly relies on living like the dead being the only sustainable way, so deliberately avoiding luxury is probably kind of to their benefit.
Oh yeah, and having better leadership would probably help. Like actually caring about keeping your population of humans up.
I knew you were going to put the Kingdom at the top, because they had the best thriving community when introduced . If Negan wasn’t Negan , which caused damage , and then the whispers they could’ve survived indefinitely, once they got their water situation together.
really good list with great points, i never noticed terminus had any crops in it, the only thing i would say is you down played the hospital a bit because they had crops on the roof and in the dump im sure they all had shipping containers to sleep in, and you were Right about the whisperers they could be taken out by some non lethal weapon of some kind because you just need to let the walkers do the work for you after that then you can do your redirecting tactics to take care of them, they probably did wild food foraging mostly and some hunting to stay alive and taking from communities that they beat
Tbh I think he downplayed the whisperers just a tad. Okay they're a bit weird and don't have a great standard of living but their ability to deal with and even control zombies is second to none. No other community except maybe the commonwealth and civic republic come anywhere close to their effectiveness and in the latters case it's only because they have an experienced, large and well stocked military.
The whisperers walk among and control the herd at their disposal. Realistically nobody is getting close to their camps as to do so they need to go through thousands of zombies to do so.
Their philosophy isn't too great, sure, but its worked well enough.
@@Powergenetic Henry was in there, Daryl was in there and Maggie Daryl and Negan learned how to control them and Elijah
@@Powergenetic The greatest advantage they have is stealth among zombies. If enemy targets 1 of them and that person gets hit he or she is done but rest can move on. The issue with them is that what they do isn't living. They merely survive. They do not live like humans and at some point they will be more like animals than humans. It is great to be able to control zombies ngl.
@@gerardmcquade9102 Tbf to Daryl and the main cast like their plot armour is so thick that they would survive a massive explosion using nothing but a wet tarp ... Wait a second ...
Controlling zombies was always something that annoyed me though post whisperers. They knew it worked, they'd seen it work, they had a veteran whisperer among the community in Lydia but rarely ever tried to employ those methods for herding zombies. It made ZERO sense. Like, if you're on a looting run why wouldn't you just loot somewhere while disguised as a walker? Or at least clear said area with the disguise?
@@Powergenetic the wet tarp wasn't for the explosion it was to block the gas out so they don't breath it
Sanioa, GA (Woodbury) feels the same way just like it did in the show if you visit today. : 3
Alexandria was the best one for the *main* group, and also for the audience because s5 absolutely ruled
My head cannon is that the vatos got killed by the governor when he found Merle in Atlanta
Dbz music in a walking dead video? A man of culture I see
I THOUGHT I WAS TRIPPIN LOL 😂😂😂 is that Dokkan battle music?
@broman_dood6682 lol I think it's from the Budokai series. Maybe Budokai 3? Been awhile for me but I knew it was dbz immediately 😂
But the whisperers do their business out of their camps as Alpha said when Negan went up to her and apologized she said that it was for hygiene purposes not privacy but yea everything else was really bad and it also doesn’t make sense that the people from terminus decided to just change to agriculture or some other way to get food after all that time also great vid
Is that dbz budokai (idk like 2 i think?) Music I hear? A man of culture i see, that earned you a sub lol.
Yes , also he played dbz raging blast 2 in vatos
Good old Saviours with unlimited soldiers
Not mentioning the lack of men in Oceanside as a detriment is either delusional or cowardly
Where is the house in which Rick ,Carl and later Michonne chilled after the prison fell?
Ummm that wasn't a community? Even Hershel's farm wasn't here and you expect a regular house? Very retarded!
Not a community. Literally just a house with 3 people briefly living in it. No fences, broken door, and no steady access to food and water. Hardly a shelter at that point.
@@Philliwolf5you don‘t get it do you?💀
I don't know why but this video reminded me of the Flash game Rebuild
Using dragon ball raging blast soundtrack in the background is wild but noticed😂
the Commonwealth and the CRM got overlooked in this video
Yeah. As explained in the beginning.
It’s awesome to hear you cuss in your videos. Great video .
I loved the Whisperer arc, but i struggled to understand why tf anyone would want to live like that - other than just being insane like Alpha and Beta
Its bad when u think about the matter of their extreme potential over others. This group could make its own safe heaven since it could control zombies. Smelling like them allows the humans to get close and investigate their numbers to then just butcher them all. Look after a big area and lead the horde around that safe heaven. Outside we live like shits and smell like shits but once at base they could live so fine. No other group thought of that defence. Jee they do not have to run from zombies. That is a huge plus. No need to waste bullets for nothing.
Just subscribed to your channel.
I honestly was sick of TWX because I was there for season 2-7, heard from friends about season 1 and was there for the Taletell series. I prefer Invincible more.
However, watching the Telltale series and stumbling onto your channel made like it again.
putting the sanctuary over alexandria is nuts imo
ig the kingdom proves monarchism is the most effective political system in a zombie ridden world
The kingdom was not top Golden standard, the flaw was it had shitty plumbing and no skilled plumbers or skilled labor for such problems.
the dbz budokai soundtrack just solidified you as a goat