@@abdbay I completely agree with what you say. The new God of War games like Ragnarok don't feel like the old games. Especially the missions with Atreus are really boring. But there is one mission that I really don't like. It's a quest where you have to find and collect ingredients in four of the Nine Realms to cook a soup that increases your stats by five levels. The problem isn't the mission itself, but the reference to Jari and Somr, two gay men traveling through the Realms who, upon arriving in Jötunheim, share their first "kiss". Even the campfire emits the colors of the LGBTQ+ Community. In short, God of War became Woke. Where has the old and traditional God of War series gone, with its bloodshed, death, betrayal, brutality, tragedy, rage, revenge and more? Where are the scenes with naked women and nudity in general? I am wrong; Now, as far as remakes of old games go, it's not a bad idea at all. It would be interesting to make these games again, with more details and some corrections, and with better references and sources from Greek Mythology. Sorry for being over the top before, but I wanted to say this because I love this series and would like it to grow better.
ari and somr were based on developers at santa monica studios Jake Snipes and Sam Handrick the pair were in a relationship until jakes passing in 2020 the story and quest were added as tribute. it was added for a personal reason to the studio not for some street cred. so in short look some stuff up before talking about it its pretty easy
I always thought that Leviathan got name from laeveteinn, they sound too similar to just be a coincidence. Its not unreal they changed some names to be more recognizable, like Brok being Brok instead of Brokkr etc.
the same reason why they dumped the sex mini games and other violent bs, I gotta admire their dedication because they are clearly making GOD of war for a wider audience and I gotta appreciate that, we get more meaningful moments than ever and got so much character development with Kratos and the cast, they even reference the fact that Kratos was a huge meanie with how he killed an innocent boat captain out of spite, and we gotta apreaciate his evolution as a character and in gameplay from the more ruthless and edgy spartan we used to play with, Atreus gameplay and the traversal sucks IMO but thats just me, slow ass traversal, infamous and prototype do it better.
People are incoherent if they actually think Atreus’s gameplay will remain the same if he’s the protagonist of the next game, of course they’ll change it up and make his gameplay and character more appealing.
The bow as a Melee weapon is just a nope even Bayonetta 2 made it feel nicer. As a ranged weapon The Bow Of Apollo should have been in his hands. The boy requires a signature weapon maybe even something Greek
I kinda feel like the new combat reflects well with kratos new midset. Its much more strategic and having to be well timed, as kratos no longer wants to be the aggressive man he was. Not saying the older hack and slash was bad. Also, I didn't the atreus sections that bad.
I miss the old god of war brutalities. this all weak shit nowadays - keeping gorgon eyes, medusa's head, ripping hermes legs off and beating him to death with the stumps, uses Helio's head as a flash light...what do we get now? An S&M skit, nothing more.
My dad played the first one (2018) and I watched. When ragnarok dropped, I watched my dad play that. When he got to the atreus mission, he handed the controller to me and I played through that. Then we kinda just tag teamed that game until we beat it. The atreus segments were surprisingly enjoyable; probably because I didn't actually play as kratos. So possible unpopular opinion here, but I'm down for an atreus game. Anyone? Just me. Ok 😐
Wow, that was a bit to get get through. The only way that way of playstyle is coming back is remakes which they should do but do people not like evolution. God of wars story is changing and the game play matches it. We have a kratos that is wiser and calmer. Would it make sense to keep this style of gameplay with such a character change unless you want kratos to forever be a monster and not want him to be better. I feel that if atrasis is to take over then have more of a DMC playstyle. Its different then the hack and slash of kratos but still give that old feel.
I just want Kratos to be more aggressive. I want to see his brutality come back. Why can't he be calm and collected, yet aggressive and ferocious at the same time.
I agree , i preffer the older games combat system . I would say even the camera system much more creative . I wish for more brutality but it dose make sense with his character development . Anyway they need to focus a bit more on the gameplay part , no more hand holding , piss easy puzzles , a bit more focus on skill with certain moves and combos . So yea i think they should incorporate a bit more combo system that can require a bit more precision and actual skill . A bit more brutal finishers on bosses especially etc. I don't know i just a bit more focus on more fun and a bit more creative gameplay combat and less on "walking simulator " and stealth scenes , that can be too long .
I love the old games more too but I also appreciate the new games and I know most people like them more because sadly they cannot understand what made the Greek games so good it’s simplicity in gameplay and straight to the point story is what made them so effective because while simple they make you CARE which is what every story snd gameplay should do
replay ability is what make them superior as well, i don't mind most of the things they have now if they just add new and old elements the it would make them much fun.
I know, I even said so towards the end of the video. All I’m asking is for a remake of the old games. It’s easy money for SMS. With future God of War games, they can keep this larger-than-life approach that they have taken, but maybe just include more hints of Kratos’ Greek past here and there. For example, I think Athena should have had a role to play in Ragnarok, especially since they had her appear in 2018.
While the Atreus missions where sure not the best but they were still good and where a story for his chatter arc to show him growing up and to see him with new characters and all leads up to him leaving to find the giants
First play through when you first play as Atreus was ok not bad and pretty cool, but after second playing through, it's just getting really annoying and all I want is to rush Atreus part as fast as possible, I wanted to play third play through , but it's just pain that I'll have to go on picking fruit mission for 4 hrs again....in my opinion developers should make an option for us to be able to skip Atreus part , coz many of the fans buy god of war to play as Kratos and not a skinny kids with an bow and arrow , it'll be sad if the upcoming dlc will be about Atreus, I would imagine if the Dlc is about Kratos traveling through out the Norse realms and keep on helping the realms to rebuild after the event of Ragnarok and to see he gets worship by all ppl that he helped like the prophecy in the last cutscene.
GoW 2018 and Ragnarok HAVE NO BLOOD!! The mobs are all dried! Even what has left of blood, is like a rainbow. Thats not God of War. And contrary of what all that people tell the young Kratos had character depth.
I TO TA LLY A G R E E EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE nothing more to say (ah yes, i hated play atreus, ok he's a part of the story now, after all he's kratos's son but i just don't want to play him i play gow for kratos and HIS story)
Nah, I disagree. Kratos isn't that kratos anymore. It got boring, hence why Santa Monica made some changes for the soft reboot in Norse. It doesn't bring new people into the game, plus, after God of War 3, a lot weren't impressed with God of War Ascension, besides the 2 player battles. We don't need a Kratos bonus, we need Atreus. The story is mainly connected to him and it would tie a lot of lose ended with his journey and awakening/bringing back the giants.
@@abdbayI mean the old hack n slash stuff is cool and I want more of the genre but most of the gow community was getting bored of its lack of innovation
because we had 7 hack n slash GOW games, sure the hand held ones we're not played by everyone but still, all they have to do is add some old elements but don't change the new style completly@@clevernamerighthere9240
You are very short sighted. This is about redemption not simplicity or brutality. A God Becoming A Man. Weren't you listening, you want old kratos go back and play the old games. Don't criticize growth and the desire to be better. You have no right to argue that.
Bro the Atreus’s levels were not boring or bad, I don’t get what you are complaining about? Also what is so bad of focusing on the son of kratos? Like the game is about these two :/
Santa Monica either know two things. Either there are ashamed of the GOW trilogy or they know that a GOW trilogy remastered with modern assets would sell out. Eitherway Santa Monica and Sony are leaving a lot of money on the table. For Example, the lost levels of GOW 2 and GOW Betrayal can be added in as additional content or weaving in secondary media like the GOW prequel comic into the main games would flesh out the universe of GOW
Or make the same thing mk11 did to scorpion, the old and mature kratos dies in the arms of his younger self and start to play the young kratos to keep his journey.
Wassup, man!! Always a pleasure to see you in my comments section ❤️🥰. I’ll definitely check it out, but first I want you to have a look at this response video I made for you: ruclips.net/video/XasTRPFd1xY/видео.htmlsi=--9JvVx5fS5R17-u
I want them to bring back kratos from the past, have a Young kratos and Old kratos interactions. Where old kratos tries to ease his youngers self's trauma
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as far as the atreus, maybe they could switch it up more by giving atreus another weapon, in norse mythology loki does have a sword named laeveteinn.
Could be
@@abdbay I completely agree with what you say. The new God of War games like Ragnarok don't feel like the old games. Especially the missions with Atreus are really boring. But there is one mission that I really don't like. It's a quest where you have to find and collect ingredients in four of the Nine Realms to cook a soup that increases your stats by five levels. The problem isn't the mission itself, but the reference to Jari and Somr, two gay men traveling through the Realms who, upon arriving in Jötunheim, share their first "kiss". Even the campfire emits the colors of the LGBTQ+ Community. In short, God of War became Woke. Where has the old and traditional God of War series gone, with its bloodshed, death, betrayal, brutality, tragedy, rage, revenge and more? Where are the scenes with naked women and nudity in general? I am wrong; Now, as far as remakes of old games go, it's not a bad idea at all. It would be interesting to make these games again, with more details and some corrections, and with better references and sources from Greek Mythology. Sorry for being over the top before, but I wanted to say this because I love this series and would like it to grow better.
ari and somr were based on developers at santa monica studios Jake Snipes and Sam Handrick the pair were in a relationship until jakes passing in 2020 the story and quest were added as tribute.
it was added for a personal reason to the studio not for some street cred.
so in short look some stuff up before talking about it
its pretty easy
dont wanna be mean just wanna let you know the full story
I always thought that Leviathan got name from laeveteinn, they sound too similar to just be a coincidence. Its not unreal they changed some names to be more recognizable, like Brok being Brok instead of Brokkr etc.
The atraeus segments were a boring pain in the ass
Facts
They weren’t that bad, ironwood was too long but being in Asgard and stuff was fun to me. Just wish it was building up to Atreus outsmarting heimdal
Ironwood is Ragnarok's only unforgivable sin.
the same reason why they dumped the sex mini games and other violent bs, I gotta admire their dedication because they are clearly making GOD of war for a wider audience and I gotta appreciate that, we get more meaningful moments than ever and got so much character development with Kratos and the cast, they even reference the fact that Kratos was a huge meanie with how he killed an innocent boat captain out of spite, and we gotta apreaciate his evolution as a character and in gameplay from the more ruthless and edgy spartan we used to play with, Atreus gameplay and the traversal sucks IMO but thats just me, slow ass traversal, infamous and prototype do it better.
People are incoherent if they actually think Atreus’s gameplay will remain the same if he’s the protagonist of the next game, of course they’ll change it up and make his gameplay and character more appealing.
We'll have to wait and see
The bow as a Melee weapon is just a nope even Bayonetta 2 made it feel nicer. As a ranged weapon The Bow Of Apollo should have been in his hands. The boy requires a signature weapon maybe even something Greek
Is the brutality in the reboot game insufficient for your liking? I, on the other hand, am content with it.
I need more BLOOD, MORE GORE, MORE HEARTLESSNESS!!!!
Forget brutality how about a camrea thats not set up like an uncharted game and a freaking jump button for Christ's sake 😅
There is so much in this I disagree with but yes Remakes make perfect sense.
I kinda feel like the new combat reflects well with kratos new midset. Its much more strategic and having to be well timed, as kratos no longer wants to be the aggressive man he was. Not saying the older hack and slash was bad. Also, I didn't the atreus sections that bad.
I miss the old god of war brutalities. this all weak shit nowadays - keeping gorgon eyes, medusa's head, ripping hermes legs off and beating him to death with the stumps, uses Helio's head as a flash light...what do we get now? An S&M skit, nothing more.
1.) The point of leaving the past behind is to leave the past behind
2.) If you want hack and slash, put it on easy mode.
If only it was that easy
It's not the same a big part that I don't like in the new god of war games are the rpg mechanics
My dad played the first one (2018) and I watched. When ragnarok dropped, I watched my dad play that. When he got to the atreus mission, he handed the controller to me and I played through that. Then we kinda just tag teamed that game until we beat it. The atreus segments were surprisingly enjoyable; probably because I didn't actually play as kratos. So possible unpopular opinion here, but I'm down for an atreus game. Anyone? Just me. Ok 😐
I love this comment and I love that you’re making good memories with your dad. But no. It’s just you.
Wow, that was a bit to get get through. The only way that way of playstyle is coming back is remakes which they should do but do people not like evolution. God of wars story is changing and the game play matches it. We have a kratos that is wiser and calmer. Would it make sense to keep this style of gameplay with such a character change unless you want kratos to forever be a monster and not want him to be better. I feel that if atrasis is to take over then have more of a DMC playstyle. Its different then the hack and slash of kratos but still give that old feel.
I just want Kratos to be more aggressive. I want to see his brutality come back. Why can't he be calm and collected, yet aggressive and ferocious at the same time.
I agree , i preffer the older games combat system . I would say even the camera system much more creative .
I wish for more brutality but it dose make sense with his character development .
Anyway they need to focus a bit more on the gameplay part , no more hand holding , piss easy puzzles , a bit more focus on skill with certain moves and combos . So yea i think they should incorporate a bit more combo system that can require a bit more precision and actual skill .
A bit more brutal finishers on bosses especially etc. I don't know i just a bit more focus on more fun and a bit more creative gameplay combat and less on "walking simulator " and stealth scenes , that can be too long .
I love the old games more too but I also appreciate the new games and I know most people like them more because sadly they cannot understand what made the Greek games so good it’s simplicity in gameplay and straight to the point story is what made them so effective because while simple they make you CARE which is what every story snd gameplay should do
I understand
@@abdbay good
replay ability is what make them superior as well, i don't mind most of the things they have now if they just add new and old elements the it would make them much fun.
@@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 indeed
Sorry but after the success of these two games hack n slash will remain a thing of god of wars past regardless if you like it or not
I know, I even said so towards the end of the video. All I’m asking is for a remake of the old games. It’s easy money for SMS. With future God of War games, they can keep this larger-than-life approach that they have taken, but maybe just include more hints of Kratos’ Greek past here and there. For example, I think Athena should have had a role to play in Ragnarok, especially since they had her appear in 2018.
I enjoyed the Atreus sections, ironwood was slow, but it made me want a spinoff series with him
I suppose some ppl liked that part
While the Atreus missions where sure not the best but they were still good and where a story for his chatter arc to show him growing up and to see him with new characters and all leads up to him leaving to find the giants
First play through when you first play as Atreus was ok not bad and pretty cool, but after second playing through, it's just getting really annoying and all I want is to rush Atreus part as fast as possible, I wanted to play third play through , but it's just pain that I'll have to go on picking fruit mission for 4 hrs again....in my opinion developers should make an option for us to be able to skip Atreus part , coz many of the fans buy god of war to play as Kratos and not a skinny kids with an bow and arrow , it'll be sad if the upcoming dlc will be about Atreus, I would imagine if the Dlc is about Kratos traveling through out the Norse realms and keep on helping the realms to rebuild after the event of Ragnarok and to see he gets worship by all ppl that he helped like the prophecy in the last cutscene.
GoW 2018 and Ragnarok HAVE NO BLOOD!! The mobs are all dried! Even what has left of blood, is like a rainbow. Thats not God of War. And contrary of what all that people tell the young Kratos had character depth.
I TO TA LLY A G R E E EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE nothing more to say (ah yes, i hated play atreus, ok he's a part of the story now, after all he's kratos's son but i just don't want to play him i play gow for kratos and HIS story)
Bruh the game isn’t hack n slash because kratos isn’t the same kratos from back in Greece
You don’t say 💀
Nah, I disagree. Kratos isn't that kratos anymore. It got boring, hence why Santa Monica made some changes for the soft reboot in Norse. It doesn't bring new people into the game, plus, after God of War 3, a lot weren't impressed with God of War Ascension, besides the 2 player battles. We don't need a Kratos bonus, we need Atreus. The story is mainly connected to him and it would tie a lot of lose ended with his journey and awakening/bringing back the giants.
NOOOOO
@@abdbayI mean the old hack n slash stuff is cool and I want more of the genre but most of the gow community was getting bored of its lack of innovation
because we had 7 hack n slash GOW games, sure the hand held ones we're not played by everyone but still, all they have to do is add some old elements but don't change the new style completly@@clevernamerighthere9240
Bruh Atreus gameplay was so fun and refreshing. Yall complain about everything.
You are very short sighted. This is about redemption not simplicity or brutality. A God Becoming A Man. Weren't you listening, you want old kratos go back and play the old games. Don't criticize growth and the desire to be better. You have no right to argue that.
Mashing buttons for combo meter isnt fun anymore.
I enjoy it :/
Speak for yourself
Cant stand that kid lol
Ouch
@@abdbay he means Atreus
They’ll age him up and most people are probably going to like him when he’s older which I think he will be in the next game.
@@smarty1268 yeah he has to be at least 25
I like all the games in general. BUT remove the Atreaus sections or give him some melee weapon (s).
Agreed
Bro the Atreus’s levels were not boring or bad, I don’t get what you are complaining about? Also what is so bad of focusing on the son of kratos? Like the game is about these two :/
#Remake old games
New god of war isnt bad its just weird that they basically made it a 3rd person shooter aesthtically mainly to make it more "cinematic".
Couldn't go past 1 ng+ because of fucking ironwood
Sorry, but NO!
BUT YES
Santa Monica either know two things. Either there are ashamed of the GOW trilogy or they know that a GOW trilogy remastered with modern assets would sell out. Eitherway Santa Monica and Sony are leaving a lot of money on the table. For Example, the lost levels of GOW 2 and GOW Betrayal can be added in as additional content or weaving in secondary media like the GOW prequel comic into the main games would flesh out the universe of GOW
Or make the same thing mk11 did to scorpion, the old and mature kratos dies in the arms of his younger self and start to play the young kratos to keep his journey.
That would be… interesting
What up bro. I prove who blew the horn and why in my latest video. Tell me what u think homie. ❤
Wassup, man!! Always a pleasure to see you in my comments section ❤️🥰. I’ll definitely check it out, but first I want you to have a look at this response video I made for you: ruclips.net/video/XasTRPFd1xY/видео.htmlsi=--9JvVx5fS5R17-u
Agreed bro
I want them to bring back kratos from the past, have a Young kratos and Old kratos interactions. Where old kratos tries to ease his youngers self's trauma
I don't know about easing the trauma bit but I would love to see an interaction between young and old kratos
Couldn't agree more with you
whast the intro
Black Swan - BTS
thx@@abdbay