Operation Bluestar Aftermath & Sikh Genocide | 1984-1995 Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- Welcome to the final installment of our special 4-part podcast series, delving deep into the aftermath of the June 1984 Operation Blue Star. In this concluding episode, we explore the profound reaction and response of the Sikh community to the Indian Government's assault on Sri Harimandar Sahib, also known as the Golden Temple, the spiritual epicenter of Sikhi.
This pivotal event sparked a series transformative occurrences, including the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in November 1984 by Bhai Satwant Singh and Bhai Beant Singh Ji. In the wake of her death, a horrific genocide ensued, with thousands of innocent Sikhs being massacred across Delhi and throughout India.
Join us as we also touch upon the relentless struggle and battle of Sikh warriors against the corrupt Indian state from 1984 to 1995, shedding light on their unwavering spirit and determination in the face of immense adversity.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Highlights
2:50 - Introduction
4:15 - Darbar Sahib after June 1984
6:15 - What was the reaction in the UK during June 1984
10:30 - Genocide was looming for many years
12:30 - What were the Indian Soldiers doing in Darbar Sahib?
13:30 - Soldiers taunting the Sikhs
15:30 - Bhai Satwant and Beant Singh
16:00 - Sikh Soldiers turn against State
21:45 - 100 + Gurdwara’s are attacked
23:40 - Operation Woodrose
26:50 - Why do we have to explain June 1984 to Sikhs?
29:10 - Indira Gandhi’s propaganda
29:40 - Baaj/Hawk circumnutates Darbar Sahib
30:30 - Bhai Beant Singhs reaction to June 1984
33:00 - The transformation for Bhai Satwant and Beant Singh Ji
37:20 - The Baaj/hawk of Guru Gobind Singh Ji - The significance
41:20 - Chronological events of June 1984 to November 1984
43:20 - Bibi Bimal Kaur Ji
46:50 - Assassination of Indira Gandhi
48:20 - Non-Bias Report on June 1984
51:50 - What was the feeling in the West about Indira Gandhi
52:50 - The conversation between Satwant Singh and Beant Singh Ji
54:50 - Bibi Bimal Kaur Ji contribution to the Panth
1:06:55 - Response after Indira Gandhi’s death
1:15:40 - President Zail Singh’s phone line is cut
1:19:45 - Funeral of Indira Gandhi
1:21:10 - Officers are rewarded for killing innocent Sikhs
1:24:40 - 100’s of Gurdwara’s and Sikhs attacked in November 1984
1:27:40 - Response from Rajiv Gandhi to November 1984
1:28:50 - Words of Giani Zail Singh
1:29:50 - Didn’t the Sikhs fight back?
1:32:50 - Bhai Sukhdev Singh and Bhai Harjinder Singh - Sukha Jinda
1:35:50 - The Delhi Sikhs become Pro Sant Ji
1:39:10 - Sikhs realise the reality of Indian Government
1:42:00 - What happens after 1984?
1:47:00 - Have the Sikhs obtained any Justice?
1:49:10 - Could 1984 happen again? - Israel vs Palestine example
1:55:25 - Sarbat Khalsa 1986
1:57:40 - Deepa Hera - Police officers avoided the Khalsa
1:58:10 - Support for the Kharku movement
1:59:40 - Sikhs continue the battle after 1984 - General Labh Singh Ji
2:01:20 - Black Cats
2:02:20 - Gangsters afraid of the Kharku Singhs
2:03:00 - The Judge of Bhai Sukha and Jinda
2:06:00 - Bhai Sukha and Jinda’s shaheedi
2:10:20 - Bhai Anokh Singh Ji and their Shaheedi
2:17:00 - Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji poem
2:20:30 - The compassion of Bhai Anokh Singh Ji
2:26:00 - The Khalsa Rise again after 1984
2:28:00 - What was the reality of Sikhs in the 1990’s?
2:30:00 - Why do Sikhs want Khalistan today?
2:32:00 - The fear of Kharku Singhs
2:33:20 - CM Beant Singh assassinated
2:34:00 - The murder and torture of Sikh freedom fighters
2:37:30 - Families of Sikhs Fighters are targeted
2:40:00 - Families doing seva of Kharku Singhs
2:43:00 - Sikh families being tortured by the Police
2:45:00 - Bhai Avtaar Singh Brahma confronts the Indian Police
2:48:00 - Gobind Raam - killed by Bhai Jagraj Singh Toofan
2:51:00 - Recap on the last 4 podcasts
2:53:20 - Final message from Bhai Manpreet Singh Ji
2:55:30 - Bhai Sukhdev Singh Ji Babbar
3:02:20 - Final message from Bhai Manivjot Singh Ji
3:04:00 - Final message from Bhai Shamsher Singh Ji
3:09:00 - Final message from Bhai Harjinder Singh Ji
A Big Thank You To:
Bhai Harjinder Singh - Akaal Publishers
Bhai Maniv Singh - Sikh Human Rights
Bhai Shamsher Singh - NSYF/Khalistan Centre
Bhai Baljit Singh - JangNama
Bhai Manpreet Singh - World Sikh Parliament & Babbar Akali
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ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਵਧੀਆ ਤਰੀਕਾ ਹੈ ਆਪਣੀ ਗੱਲ ਦੱਸਣ ਲਈ। ਬਹੁਤ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਹੋਈ ਹੈ ਆਪਣੇ ਵੀਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਦਲੀਲ ਨਾਲ ਗੱਲਬਾਤ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ ਦੇਖ। ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਰਹਿਮਤ ਕਰਨ।
You 😅😅😅
4 episodes totally changed my life
Sikh born turned Ahteiest groomed to christianity and islam but this... this is everything.. waheguru meinu maaf kareh ehne saal ohde toh moh moreya.. waheguru ji da khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh ❤
Vaheguru 🙏
@@Bahadurshahzaffer islam is paganism. ✌️
Looking forward to this 4th and final part
Thankyou to all the gurmukhs for taking out the time to do this priceless seva ji 🙏
There are no words to describe what horrors india has done to sikhs. And then it has all gone unpunished , even rewarded.
Fantastic discussion! Well done basics of Sikhi, well researched and articulate panelist’s who allow one and other to speak and not descend into a shouting contest. Very well researched and a great discussion for the youth to listen to. Well done for putting this together and a great way of remembering our shaheeds of 1984!!!
I don't know history. I have a simple question, out of 50 lakh hectares area in Punjab, sant ji only had one place (our golden temple) to fight with army. Was there no other place in Punjab to fight with army or Punjab police. If he had shifted his place of fight, not a single bullet would not have been shot in premises of our Golden temple. Was the gurudwara a fighting place. I think before attack army requested to vacate the place but he didn't bother
Then why the other gurudwaras was attacked if he was only in golden temple
You clearly have not listened to any of the podcasts if you are still asking the most answered question after 4 episodes😂 what a joke
@@GameGuardian1899 The Gurudwaras had become the refuge for terrorists. Not just the golden temple. Before 1984, the army was forbidden from entering a Gurudwara
@@petepipee6751 ok if the other gurudwaras were refugee camps for terrorists how many got arrested none and when army went in other gurudwara did they receive return fire no because there were no terrorists in those gurudwara if you wanna speak you should bring some proofs .and why they burned sikh reference library which contains so many old hand written hukumnamas of guru sahib and many old hand written guru Granth sahib. Because it was planned ethnic cleansing .
@@GameGuardian1899 You believe only whatever suits your imagination and in your imagination a mouse is a monster.
Could listen to these guys talk all day long, great in depth talks & info never knew…. Lights the fire inside… stay blessed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💙
May sikhism never die
Sat Sri Akaal
Lol it is already dying in Punjab
I am related to a kharku Sikh. His name was Shaheed Bhai Gurdeep Singh Deepan Heran Wala. The Comrade Slayer
was he athwal
singh, i wouldn't have said that online, cuz know india will be doing ur background check and u will be monitored online and whenever (if) you go to india
Kuj ni hunda, how is it a crime to be related to someone
@@jayd4ever he took his moms name Deepan Heran
@@Jujhar_L.F.C a sheep could outnumber a lion but a lion could over power a sheep.
Sant Bhindranwale ji
A fantastic uprala which has certainly re-shaped the way I have thought about this triumphant part of our Sikh history. Thank you to all the BoS sewadaar may guru sahib continue to bless you all with the Sewa of spreading the parchaar of Sikhi 💙🙏🏽
I have been in tears throughout this whole podcast/episode.
The love for Guroo Sahib and the Panth increasing with every minute listening to these Gursikhs talking.
No words.
Except from endless gratitude, and that I it is my daily Ardaas to be given the Kirpa of contributing to Sikh Sangarsh somehow and in any way I can.
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Great informative podcast, some amazing stories told!
Thank you so much for this series. Personally i struggle with reading so these videos have been a great help with understanding what happened and is happening. I would like to request if the Sakhia of our shaheed Singhs and Kaurs from this era be shared in more detail whenever possible it is uplifting to hear jidha ohnane Sikhi nibahi and help me and many more i hope continue growing in our paths to Maharaj Thank you.
Khalsa ji
Mahraaj tuhade sb nu chardikal bkhn
You guys did it so well
Extracting every single facet
Which is not so easy to find in india as well as panjab
This UPRALA is going to enlighten so many of us👏
'To comprehend the nature of this attack, an example would be if the Roman Catholics were a minority and the italian army stormed the Vatican on the day of Easter on the orders of the Prime Minister' Reece Chaplin
Excellent and very detailed series. You should do one from 1995 to present. Please include or do a podcast with @RajoanaTV his very knowledgably on much of the topics discussed on the series.
How?... Italians and the Vatican are both Christian... It'd probably be described as more of a civil war. Indian government and Hindu majority attacking Sikhs is a genocide not a civil war. Why are people up voting these ridiculous comparisons
Vaheguru🙏 every minute worth listening
@1:28:59 Paaji says that Giani Zail's memoirs state that he saw the Delhi "riots" as a holocaust. That's quite something that the president of a country would say there's a holocaust against his own people in the country. These are things that every Indian needs to hear.
Much before 1984, , a train was stopped by Bhindranwale's gundas. They segregated Hindus , lined them up and machine gunned them down. This was not a one time thing, this was every day from 1979 -1984 and then afterwards. The Sikhs like Guru Tegh Bahadurji were another kind of Sikh than Bhindranwale. You may see yourself as Sikh but we don't. You are the very opposite.
So grateful for this content 🙏🏾 Could you give some book recommendations or share main sources that you used in your research so we can dive deeper in to it?
Daljit Singh Bittu has published a few recently
I would reccomend Game of Love (Akaal Publishers/ Bhai Harjinder Singh) for the Kharku Sangarash and Reflections on 1984 (same author) for operation bluestar
Thanks to the whole team 🪯🙏🏻
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ
Super interesting that there are so many indian trolls on these videos. Funny how we dont feel the need to comment on their videos
khalistan will be a landlocked buffer state that will struggle to develop its economy. it will be reliant on agriculture. from a economic and geopolitical perspective, its just about impractical in every way. also you will only get sikh majority districts in khalistan if it hypothetically happened. it would not take up the entire east punjab whatsoever. and dont forget, doaba is hindu majority. do you really think doabi hindus would ever want khalistan?
@@crazydude449 Switzerland, Bhutan landlocked & flourishing 🤔 beside East Punjab *(Khalistan)* will have good relationship with 🇨🇳🇵🇰 open trade routes tourism something which -india- can never achieve when it makes silly statements about Aksai Chin, Tibet, Pok being part of -india- 🙄 the -hindu doabi- will be dealt with according if they cause any mischievous acts during *Khalistan* independence
@@crazydude449reachin 😂😂😂😂
@user-lz9vl8mo1y We will have control of our resources *Water* become agriculture powerhouse with trade with our neighbours👍 not just 🤝 with 🇵🇰 but 🇨🇦🇨🇳🇺🇸🇳🇿 🇦🇺. calling Bhutan a friend of -india- then gaslight them as economic fail🤔..what failed state -india- got🥴 not worth a unsc time🙄 nothing but subordinates 🇬🇧 𓁉 🇮🇳
@user-lz9vl8mo1y have control of our resources *Water* become agriculture powerhouse with trade with our neighbours👍 not just 🤝 with 🇵🇰 but 🇨🇦🇨🇳🇺🇸🇳🇿 🇦🇺. calling Bhutan a friend of -india- then expose them as economic fail🤔..what failed state -india- got🥴 not worth a unsc time🙄 nothing but subordinates 🇬🇧 𓁉 🇮🇳
Just to put it into perspective, even Hitler never attacked the Vatican
The Vatican & the pope at the time helped the Nazi's ji.
Pope Pius XII kept quiet on mass gassing of jews.
What? The Vatican was celebrating him regularly, annually his birthday. He was Christian.
@@mandeepsuj1 Pope Pius XII helped send jews to camps. It was on the news years back.
@@mandeepsuj1 Oh wow, thanks; that justifies everything she did ✌
@@HPSingh-sx4if way to jump to conclusions it's just stupid comparison... But good job making stupid assumptions and being sarcastic
Great bro’s
Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru
Forever a sacrifice to Guroo Sahib and the true GurSikhs Guroo Jee has created - like the Soorme being talked about in this podcast throughout Sikhi ithehaas up until now, and also these amazing GurSikhs who are sharing their vast Giaan about it all.
What more can I say... no words will ever suffice.
🙏🙏fantastic work keeps up
Waheguru Waheguru
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Bhindranwale was not a terrorist initially, as he himself never asked for Khalistan. He wss adament and he was on extremely wrong path in the name of getting justice, neither the leadership of that time was matured enough to tackle this situation and persons involved, Bhindranwale himself had political aspirations to be fulfilled with the outer assistance from Congress which were never fulfilled (Congress wanted to neutrilize Alkali Dal and create alternative in the form of Bhindranwale) that was the root cause of contension. Neither the Hindu society wanted or ever supported the massacre of 84, few of my sikh friends relatives were the victim of it. That was a horrible horrible time. I was 14 then. Later on when I grew up I realised the the picture is been developed that Hindu is responsible for 84 and not Congress. I am surprised people elected Congress even after that, Ok don't elect BJP but atleast don't elect Congress aswell.
Emotions are running high on me I know I am not able to answer your question. I and all my family members visit mandir and gurudwara sahib quite often, I meet hindus in gurudwara also and I meet sikhs in mandir also. And they themselves don't feet it otherwise. I have a faith on Guru maharaj and Ram that sensibility will prevail.
The Sikhs of the 10 Gurus need to stand apart from Bhindranwale followers. These imposters can get away with their criminality only till the Sikhs of the 10 Gurus stand apart from them.
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Kharku singhs had major support in my area(majha). My dad was friends with alot of singhs at the time and he was picked up by police twice...luckily his uncle was a high ranking police officer who saved him both times.... In the late 80s and early 90s raat nu kharku raaj hunda c...no sarkari car would come out after the evening.
We all are in some way or another @@mangopudding5979
Yup talking and discussing is the first step
To acknowledge what they did!😢
ਲੋਕੀ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਕੇ ਖਾੜਕੂ ਲਹਿਰ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਕੀ ਏ- ਜੇ 1984 ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਸਿੱਖ ਨਾ ਉਠਦੇ ਤਾਂ ਅੱਜ ਤੱਕ ਸਿਰ ਨਿਵੇ ਕਰਕੇ ਚੱਲਣਾ ਪੈਣਾ ਸੀ, ਅਣਖੀ ਲੋਕ ਹੀ ਸਮਝ ਸਕਦੇ ਨੇ ਕੇ ਕੌਮ ਦੀ ਅਣਖ ਨੂੰ ਜਿਉਂਦੇ ਰੱਖਣ ਲਈ ਇਹ ਜੰਗ ਜਰੂਰੀ ਸੀ..ਜਿਥੇ ਗੱਲ ਅਣਖ, ਗੈਰਤ ਤੇ ਇੱਜਤ ਦੀ ਹੋਵੇ ਓਥੇ ਨਫ਼ੇ ਨੁਕਸਾਨ ਦੇ ਹਿਸਾਬ ਨੀ ਹੁੰਦੇ
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You did ask. If there anything pacific I would like to know is an hour-by-hour account of the actual assault. This military attack fascinates me more than any other. You obviously spoke about the attack to great length in the previous podcast but I would like to know on greater detail when did the army actually enter because from many Singhs inside whose testimonies are online have said that military enter in the evening of June 5 1984 between 10:30 & 11:00.
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As a hindu it was injustice to sikhs . I want to know that does sikh people in punjab wants a khalistan ?
yes
You will see real injustice by your own people when sikhs establish their own land. Remember caste system is a Hindu thing. When you get your Hindu Rashtra this will very quickly be realised.
@@qa5486 i notice you are going on all comment in this video and adding replies. caste system is in sikh community as well. not sikh dharma but sikh community. difference is that jatt is top caste instead of brahmin. tell me have you ever even been to india before
@@crazydude449 stop talking out your ass. We both know the facts here. ✌🏼
@@qa5486 Hindu rashtra will never happen
@bostv @BasicsofsikhiTV
I have a question for episode 5 veero, what would you say we can do moving forward as a panth to strengthen Sikhi and achieve autonomy as a people? It seems like we always have to wait for a leader to emerge ex. Sant Jarnail Singh ji, Deep Sidhu or Bhai Amritpal Singh, to be able to unite the kaum. This works wonders in short amount of time with the right leader but the Indian Government seems to have learned from their mistakes in the past and acts super fast nowadays to rid our kaum of these leaders. What can we do, it pains me the Sikhi is being supressed, the world needs a beautiful example of Halemi Raj to follow in this moment, Khalistan could be the answer.
Thank you for this amazing seva!
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Above everything we need to first read Gurbani and do Naam Abhyaas without that we ain't getting nowhere, the kamai of these gursikhs is what made them. Bhai Amritpal Singh would continously read Chaupai Sahib throughout the day, that's how he was able to escape from 80,000 police and left the Indian govt clueless despite them using extreme draconian measures and blackouts to try and catch him. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji also read 101 Japji Sahibs daily and we are all aware of his feats.
Please all do watch video on al jajira english on murder of hardeep nijjar and hindus against sikhs since impendence
Please read Don Quixote.
Can someone write a book on this
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh 🙏⚔️🦅
Dhan Teri Sikhi 🙏🙏
The likes of Arjan Das may have froze in the moment when facing a one-on-one confrontation. These types of people are powerful when they are in mobs but when you corner them face-to face their true reality comes out.
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🙏ਜੁੱਗ ਜੁੱਗ ਜੀਓ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਜੀ 🙏
Best example of kharku singhs were never against hindus is shaheed bhai jugraj singh ji toofan who rehabilitated many hindus and lakhs of hindus paid tribute at hia sanskar... I request kindly do podcast series on all prominent kharku singhs and other singhs who are neglected by sikh panth....
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ 🙏🏻
ਸਾਨੂੰ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਤੇ ਮਾਣ ਹੈ
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਜਿੰਦਾਬਾਦ🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
1:30 Aum Namah Varaahroopam
Raj karega Khalsa
He’s got a great accent brother in kaala pagg
How can I contact you brothers.. waheguru neh kirpa karti 🙏
Betray Bahaman Sardars in 1930 Gandhi highjack our movement, 1947 our Land Sarkar-e-khalsa, divide it, 1955, 1984-1994 attack ed Darbaar Sahib, Bandi Political sardar 30-40 yr in jail. loot our water, ekogenocide, govt services, still looting.
Hi a passerby proud hindu here, i simply wanted to know the history of sri darbar sahib khadoor sahib ji and landed up on this video. I come from a family which was against the idea of what indira gandhi did, and we are proud of saving one sikh family(it was my nana who saved them, he kept them in their house and didnt let anyone in, i am proud of him) and wish this never should have taken place. While listening it seemed that your analysis of the majority is kinda unfair, now i come from a majority and if something like this happens i would obviously stand against it. However it was during 1980s when there used to be only a single channel and lesser sources of information which could be controlled easily and hence the unfair judgement that the majority was happy when sri darbar sahib was being raided, who knew how much information was being controlled by the head of the country. The part of hinduism where i come from would never be happy to see the demolition of faith in any form, and since sikhs and sikhi hits home, i personally would take pride in wearing a pagg and following the ways of sikhi as my own, being a proud hindu we would never cause any harm intentionally to sikhs however the atmosphere around topic of khalistan is too violent, and eventually vandalises the relationship between me and my sikh friends. It seems its the era of bigotry be it hindus muslims and sikhs, however i feel sikhs and hindus atleast can have a light foot and a soft corner for each other in their hearts. Hindus do value their relationship with sikhs and sometimes its media that propogates garbage that makes us despise each other for no reason.
Brother to put in small line hindus and sikhs never hand religious conflicts but government has created political conflict which can be solved easily but every time june comes all this media channels start showing operations blue star pictures which i think angers sikhs i am a sikh and i have met different kinds of hindus in which some support attack on golden temple and some don’t. The ones that are supporting the attack are totally clueless what was actual problem and these kind of people will exists and we can’t do about it .
Sikh gurus were killed by mughals
Sahebzade killed by mughals
Maximum conversion of sikhs into Christianity.
Sikhs were killed by congress party whom they elected in Punjab thrice after 1984.
Yet they hate hindus and bjp.
They need to introspect
If you look at Real History (not rewritten -hindutva- history🙄) Sikhs were betrayed by -hindus- 𓆙 who snitch & sided with mughals at any opportunity against *Sikhs*
you belong to ancestry of -sucha nand- & -gungu- 𓆙
@@mislconfederacy8772remember all Sikh gurus were hindu before writing anything
@@tanvirbawa9621 *Guru Nanak* 😔 rejected your pointless rituals from the beginning -hindu- itself isn't even a institutionalised religion infact not even a religion...Just brahminism down south saivites & vaishnavites claim themselves separate religion, only in 1798 William Jones coined the word -hindu- 🤔
careful of what lies you next write 👍
@@mislconfederacy8772Bro, they were not my rituals, I am born in 20th century and don't follow any religion and sick practices be it of Sikh religion or hindu religion etc. Sanatan or hindu religion is very old and thus with time illogical practices were added by different people. Sikh religion is just 3 century old and in this short period many illegally and illogical practices have been added by granthis and other people. So illogical practices are added in every religion with time and these are corrected by saints. Everyone in Punjab who has studied even till 5th class knows that guru nanak dev ji and others gurus tried to educate and preach Hindus and Muslims to shun evil practices of that time.
Before writing and making judgements i would like to inform my dear sikhs in Punjab and outside India that all sikh gurus were hindu & born in hindu families. So don't disrespect them in your hate for a politician who did some wrongdoing in 1984.
You dont knw how many people will return to Sikhi watching this...
How many -hindu- return to -hinduism- *after hearing the Real Truth here* (occupying Sikhs Khalsa lands, demolished Gurdwaras, do Beadbi on Sikh scriptures, genocide on Sikh families since 1947) shame on you ppl for being ignorant
what was Punjab before and after Bhindranwale.
How many Hindu people died ,you all just want separate country you can make can in any country
yes hindus where killed at time punjab but do research and you will find that ksp gill relesed criminals from jail to kill Hindus in sikhs get up this was revealed by his police officer gurmeet singh pinky but the problem is we don’t do much research like other day on tv this member of shiv sena was saying that sant Jarnail singh bhindran had killed 35000 Hindus i mean seriously.
I have a question for all indians who's father of nation is gandhi. In 1931 gandhi said sikhs will get all their rights in india and then sikhs questioned if india would deny in future after merging punjab in india. What could we do then? Then gandhi said it will be your right to use weapons to get your right. So why indian state is crying if today sikhs pick weapons??
Yeah. It s all there.
if you even understand history, you'll realise that BJP supporters dont even like gandhi, in fact they often despise him. BJP supporters prefer real freedom fighters like Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. gandhi was nothing short of a british agent in the eyes of many. you need to differentiate between congress and BJP. the term "indian government" is quite vague, as multiple parties, with differing ideologies, have held the position of being the indian government, not just one.
@@crazydude449 I agree the Indian state could be regarded has a vague term but there is a deep state narrative that is at play. You can’t ignore this. LK Advani encouraged Indira Gandhi for a military solution in the Panjab. RSS activists took part in the murders of Sikhs had there are FIR’s still lodged against certain activists. Nanaji Deshmukh in 1984 immediately after the massacres blamed the Sikh community for the actual carnage. These are dirty people with no integrity.
This question ask from them who considers gandhi as a father of nation buddy
Now coming on sikh rights, we respect gurus, we respect real sikhs, we respect sikh rights but every sikh is good because he is a sikh this is false
And what about innocent hindus who shot because they were hindus
@@sarveshshiv7631 What Hindus are you talking about? You comment is vey suspicious in nature when stating not all Sikhs are good? Who are you to judge this. Please provide the evidence of the killings of Hindus. I love heard figures such has 30,000 Hindus were killed etc…If so than who were these Hindus. Names, next of kin, professions etc…? Your own Indian intelligence killed these Hindus so completely discredit the Sikh movement. States do this with insurgencies.
Congress RSS ka collab kab hua???
Kuch bhi bol rha h mic ke pass baith ke
Modi ne ajtk sikh ko kuch kaha ???
Ye khamakha khafa rehte h😂😂
LK Advani ne khud apni kitab my country,my life me likha ha ki mane Indra Ghandi ko operation blue star ke lea support kiya tha . Je bakwas marni huandi a thoda study kar lia karo . He personally wrote a letter to indra ghandi to initiate attack on golden temple. Book me likha ha pard la jake
@@GameGuardian1899 ohh phd rss ka angle bta Congress ke sath
Hinduo ka target killing hue vo Nhi likhi kya usne
Ki Bhindranwale or uske logo ne marwae
@@kamalgoswami9859
Han punjab me hindus ki killing hui ha par hermeet singh pinky jo us time punjab police me tha usne khud kabool kiya ha ki kps gill or hamne jail me se criminal release kiye sikhon ka rup lekar hinduon ko marke ke lea .or agar Bhindranwale ne Hindus ko mara to us par kabhi koi fir kyu nhi hui.
When will the The great KHalsa warriors freee Nankana sahib from the occupation of Pakistan / I cannot believe the holiest place of sikhs is under the rule of muslims
Qn1 - How Hindu Feels about Harminder Sahib attack?
Answer- We Hindu always have special place in our heart for Gurudwara. And Incident that Indira Gandhi did at that time, It was totally wrong and Disheartened act...
Qn2- Do you hate Sikhs?
Ans-On My Mother Life Swear , We never even thinking of hating our Sikh Brothers, Till adulthood we even don't know that we have other religion.
Q3- Is 1984 Massccare, Do you support this...
Ans- 1984 act was done by Congress, Not by Hindus...
Many Hindus save many lives of Sikhs.
I don’t agree with you 2 points . Firstly it is your misconception too think that between the 2 communities Sikhi is not a separate religion. This is the basis of this struggle. On the comment about Hindus not being involved in the mass murders of Sikhs. This is false. Hindus were involved. To simply blame the Congress (I) & than wash your hands of this & day Hindus saved many Sikhs is crap. Where’s your evidence of the later? After all these murders the Hindus masses gave Rajiv Gandhi a huge mandate. So Hindus did support him & the killings.
I appreciate you brother.but the sad reality is Hindus are also in congress but many hindus saved sikh families in 1984 that why i never hate hindus i think the problem start where we says that they were no Hindus who attacked sikh in 1984 who else would give the title of durga devi to indra gandhi . I think the day Hindus would saya that we are sorry for what happened in 1984 and loved our sikh brothers and it will never happen again.that day I think no sikh gonna demad for Khalistan . But denying it that hindus were not involved is wrong and whats angers sikh more
Do you know Hindus were being pulled out of buses and trains every day, lined up and machine gunned. Its not like 1984 happened out of nothing.. Hindus were being butchered daily and for reasons I still dont know. These Khalistanis will now say its fake news. Everything you believe is real and everything else is fake isnt it?
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Please change the title to 3 ghalu Kara sikh should not use that word
🥶🥶🥶🥵🥵🥵😭😭😭 NEVER FORGET JUNE AND NOVEMBER 84 SIKH GENOCIDE. 30 000 SIKHS BURNT 🔥 ALIVE ,, NO JUSTICE AFTER 40 YEARS . BUT REMEMBER ,,,, O HINDUSTAN ,,, SIKHS NEVER FORGIVE OR FORGET ,,, BHARAT WILL HAVE TO PAY BACK ,, FOR THIS GENOCIDE 😢😢😢😢😢
@@mangopudding5979 totally wrong PROPAGANDA by Indian government 🙄 if u give me list of 650 ,, I WILL GIVE U MILLION RUPPES
@@mangopudding5979 failed state -india- is already paying the price its not even taken seriously by unsc getting vetoed, now its dirty agenda on the persecution of 450,000+ innocent Sikh families since 1948 there will be a *Khalistan* but fairly tale -akhand hindustan- will only exist in yamaloka 👍
what about the thousands of Hindus who were being murdered every day between 1979 and 1984. What had they done? That was mass murder every day for no reason.
what about the thousands of Hindus who were murdered between 1979 and 1984? For what reason? anyone?
I am a muslim from Kashmir i share a lot of the things that sikhs in India are facing prayers from my end may the sikhs get there revenge from indian state
You are filled with anger, hatred and revenge. Without these feelings you dont feel alive
Khalistan zindabad!!
Please go to Canada
Listen, im all for historical exploration and obvious attempts to cover up genocide but this talk about the how the mystical hawks were behaving through me for a loop. Please do a better job of staying on point and time lines. The conversation becomes sensational when just arbitrary events are highlighted without actual exploration of the context.
Punjabi ch kro plz
foreigners please dont bark on indian matters
full support to khalistan to be made in canada
They are all from the UK 😂
This video was made in Britain, why are you listening
@@Pugife5abi because its free entertainment, especially the comment section. 😅😅😂😂😂😂
@@crazydude449 not kashmir files comment section ( response to ur free entertainment jibe)
All these people r jats.
Tu ki a dasde bra
Baba deep singh naal jarnail singh brar dae comprision kar rahee naee. . Sharam karo. All these 6 people r jats
Both of them are mukhi of taksal . Yes Baba deep singh was divine soldier of guru but sant was also 14 th mukhi taksal . Santan ne aap kadi apne aap nu compare nhi kita . Te jaat vali line teri dasdi a ke kina k tu guru follow karda
Please use rights WORDS in your speech. Indian Government plus hindhutuwa plus hindhus. .
Please stop speak. state
frustated NRI's
My Nana helped Sikhs in Calcutta.
Except Delhi majorly Sikhs were helped by Hindu neigbors.
I have just one question, If you had killed a Muslim PM in an Islamic country, Kya hota ??
Bas aur kuch nahi kehna nahi chahta
no Muslim country MP has ever attacked any Sikh places of worship look how *Nanakana Sahib* is loved & looked after by 🧡🇵🇰 but then you look at hindu india actions🤔 in 1971 -indian- army tried to deliberately drop missile on *Nankana Sahib* but it never went off power of *WaheGuru* 😔 just imagine what would have happened in 1984 if *Nankana* was in -india- -hindus- even put idols in Nankana which we removed its you 'that are frustrated' doing one good deed in calcutta doesn't wash away a lifetime of sins committed for the past 550 years against Sikhs, trying to impose your warped ideology onto Sikhs from the beginning.
Khalistan zindabad
In Canada 😂
Can one person tell me why Hindus were being pulled out of buses and trains lined up and machine gunned before 1984. WHY?
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@@MabalGT You talking to me? 1:22:72
@@petepipee6751 gurmeet singh pinky cat was a officer who arrested jagtar singh hawara he said himself that criminal were released from jails to so they can kill hundus in sikh getup total number was 195 Hindus was killed and like many says it was all done sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale if thats true was never a single FIR was registered against him. There were no FIRs on him even on the day of attack on golden temple
@@GameGuardian1899 yup .. All the good guys are Sikh and all the bad guys are Hindu?
chup ho gaye?
And none of you would talk about that fortifying & hidding in a place of worship was a wrong thing to do by terrorists? See, as long as you won’t address the full truth it would never reach conclusion. Attacking akaal takht was a horrible move by army but the terrorists were eqaully responsible, why no podcast on that? Just because they are part of your community? Learn to be neutral, address all the wrong things that happened to humanity not just the once that relate to your community.🙏
Watch the episodes before which talk about the lead up. It gives the answer to your question.
@@skb4356 thanks man, I will. Appreciate the gentle response w/o getting enraged :). I want to see people not defending the millitants cuz their mischiefs in darbar sahib is equally resposible for the attack.
Read an article the website is Sikh Research Center
@arun59191 We have actually done multiple podcasts on this. This narrative that they are 'terrorists' is completely false, don't blindly believe false propaganda from a corrupt Gov.
Get educated and watch the first 3 episodes of this podcast series to get your answer...
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@@sahibjotathwal8198 its okay, we all know what transpired in punjab leading upto operation blue star
We want khalistan
Go to Canada
@@petepipee6751 I am already in CANADA 🇨🇦....I want khalistan in punjab...
@@preetazad4803 and what will happen to the non Sikhs living there? you will clean them out the way Pakistanis cleaned you out of Lahore?
@@petepipee6751 there is a big difference between clean & genocide which is what -indian- regime has been doing to Sikhs since 47 don't lie about Lahore , remember -nehru- promise for all Sikhs to leave west Punjab & come to East Punjab Khalistan for full autonomy🤔
@@mislconfederacy8772 You should have stayed there. its not too late. you should go back
All of this is waste you still voted for congress in election than bjp.
Violence is never okay. All points noted but why doesn't anyone talk about terrorist and violent activities by Mr Bhindranwale and his gang spreading terror in Punjab for 5 years which caused this. Hindus were being taken down from buses and shot. Please get the facts from the other side as well. Could the Govt had just sat there and take inaction? What was a viable option then is a question? Could not have this been spoken out and settled peacefully.
Also many Sikhs were accusing Bhindranwale squad of carrying arms into and making it a terror hideout and they were living there with the squad in the shrine. Tavleen SIngh being one reporting journalist. Situation had become very tense all over North India.
Prime Minister had faith in her bodyguards which is why she chose to keep them despite intelligence asking her to remove them, only to be betrayed by her own bodyguards and shot when unarmed and wishing them Good Morning. It speaks a lot.
This betrayal formed a picture in Government and people's minds and created distrust overall.
Guys we understand your point of view but you have been in the UK for almost 2-3 decades now. Almost in a time capsule. Focus on your lives instead of burning in revenge.
Things were and are a lot different in India now. Sikhs are as much part of the homeland as any other. They are part of the family. Indian Sikhs in Punjab broad consensus is they don't want to go separate ways. This movement is primarily active in Canada and in the UK funded by ISI Pakistan.
Negotiation and peaceful resolution should happen.
As much as your intentions seems to be noble about the issue. Your information is riddled with propaganda. First thing is you think india attacked harmandir sahib because of sant bhindrawale then why india attacked harmandir sahib in 1955? Why paonta sahib was attacked in 1962?Sant g was only 8 years old then and was no way near amritsar. And during 1984 attack why 62 other gurudwaras were attacked by indian army ?
Second thing about the hindu killings propaganda. Shaheed jaswant singh khalra collected physical data proof of unlawful killings of as much as 25000 just across 3 cremation sites and presented it to the world. Whats stopping indian agencies of coming up with proofs of such hindu killings? Where is the proof that even 500 hindus were killed in punjab?
Thirdly where is the proof that sant bhindrawale was a terrorist? The only time he killed someone when he fought indian army when they attacked darbar sahib.
Indira gandhi only kept sikh bodyguards just to show the world and nationalist sikhs that she doesn’t mean them harm. Keeping sikh bodyguards was just a calculated political move nothing else. If she had any sympathy towards sikh and punjab she wouldn’t have forced darbara singh to withdraw punjab’s water rights case from supreme court. On the other hand she increased delhi’s and haryana’s quota of water from punjab’s rivers which was and is completely against any world law.
And where is the proof of Canadian, isi or any other nation’s funding ? On the other hand KGB’s MI5’s and isreal’s involvement in india’s attack on darbar sahib was exposed in 2014 when documents were had to be made public in UK.
So please work on some facts before having an opinion on such an important issue.
Most of this was the work of the government to make Sikhs look bad!
Yeah okay just read an article about the Sikh Research Center and plus read the Sikh history and Gurbani.
This is an easily answered question, don't blindly believe false propaganda from a corrupt Gov.
Get educated and watch the first 3 episodes of this podcast series to get your answer...
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@@BasicsofsikhiTV Watching it!
Then why those sikh people took arms and ammunition inside Shri Darbar Sahib. Had they been brave enough they would gave fiught outside Shri Darbar Sahib in open medan and not taken shield of Shri Darbar Sahib. They all were cowords.
You didn't understand Dharam you don't understand Sikhhi, you don't understand Guru ki baani, you only understand Bhindranwala, so be it. I am a hindu I get same pleasure same peace of mind same tears roll down my cheeks weather I am in mandir or gurudwara sahib.
But you won't understand, because your teacher is Bhindranwala, and my teacher is Shri Guru Granth Sahib.
This is an easily answered question, don't blindly believe false propaganda from a corrupt Gov.
Get educated and watch the first 3 episodes of this podcast series to get your answer...
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@@BasicsofsikhiTV can you stop copy pasting the same replies everywhere. Rather, invest time in getting your facts right
@@arun59191 yeah they keep copy pasting the same heavily biased podcast. you will never see them actually go into debates because they know they cannot win. these guys know nothing abt politics or running a state
@@crazydude449 yes, the irony is that its not the “text” that’s been copy pasted but the whole “narration of victimhood” that keeps getting copy pasted across generations. Example: haye punjabi suba ni dita, haye sanu aisian games ch ni jaan dita, haye sadda ghaan krta, haye sanu farmer protest vaste delhi ni jaan dita. Just copy pasting these “hayes” across decades while the rest of the nation sleeps peacefully.
Khalistan is majority in Pakistan but you guys are not asking for that land, why? The Sikh gurus fought to keep India as one and died for it so doesn’t your movement go against the teachings of sikhi? I m not understanding this at all. Majority of Sikhs in India don’t support this movement. Many Sikhs are in Indian military as they love India and loyal to the land.
They want the easy way
Sikhs will also capture Pakistani punjab but existence is important for expansion and if you think majority of sikhs do not want khalistan how the voting numbers cross 1.5 lakh + in every single city in abroad as well as khalistan mps won in recent election. Our gurus shed their blood for the protection of innocents and our religion against opression. It was not for a country or whatever you think. Its a indian media's narrative to create a illusion around innocent sikhs.
Majority of sikhs came to India in 1947 after Nehru promised them for independent sikh area in the North where sikhs can enjoy their freedom but they didn't fulfill it
So if sikhs live in indian Punjab kh@lstan should be made their first later after the formation of it's military power west Punjab can also be invaded use ur brain
Sikhs fought against injustice and for innocents not for any particular religion
😅😂 why is it always Indians that are telling Sikhs what their Dharam is and what we should do? Everyone knows about the BJP IT cells there have been 100s of articles written about it. The game is up
@@BaljitSingh-qp2el Sikhism started in India, do you not even know that?
Bhindranwala was a terrorist and he had weapons in the sacred temple so why would you support
His movement? Makes no sense
You wouldn't understand. Its not your dharam
@@BaljitSingh-qp2el you didn't understand Dharam you don't understand Sikhhi, you don't understand Guru ki baani, you only understand Bhindranwala, so be it. I am a hindu I get same pleasure same peace of mind same tears roll down my cheeks weather I am in mandir od gurudwara sahib.
But you won't understand, because your teacher is Bhindranwala, and my teacher is Shri Guru Granth Sahib.
@@amitsisodia8693 the comment you just made doesn’t help me gauge your understanding of Sikhi? Granted, the atmosphere of Sri Harmandir Sahib has an affect on your soul, it has an affect on each and every soul that enters its perimeter, regardless if you truly understand Guru Maharaj Ji’s updesh (teachings) or not
Since you understand Sikhi far better than someone like me, could you help me understand through Guru Maharaj Ji’s bani why Bhindrawale is a terrorist? I’d like to know through the perspective of Guru Sahib, how Bhindrawale is a terrorist?
Just a read an article done by the Sikh Reasearch Centers
This is an easily answered question, don't blindly believe false propaganda from a corrupt Gov.
Get educated and watch the first 3 episodes of this podcast series to get your answer...
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ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਜਿੰਦਾਬਾਦ
In Canada 😂
high time now, enough of this hindu sikh bhaichara, even snakes are trustable but not hindus
Saree Sikh gurus hindu hi si. Likhan toh pehlan soch liya karo thoda
Khujli tumko hi lgi hoti hai or Bad me rote hai