This Integral is Nuts

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @PapaFlammy69
    @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +15

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    • @kentlouisoctaviano4466
      @kentlouisoctaviano4466 2 месяца назад +1

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    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 2 месяца назад

      Flammy why not juet rewrite x as (x^2)^1/2 and solve it thst way..Hopenyou can PLEASE sjare why yiu did it this convoluted way. But thanks for sharing.

  • @YellowBunny
    @YellowBunny 2 месяца назад +188

    I'm not familiar with this kind of mathematics, but here's my approach. Let y=x^2, making the integral y^(1/2) dy. This equals 2/3*y^(3/2). Substituting back yields 2/3*y^3. Plug in the bound to get 2/3*(1-0) = 2/3.
    So, I got the same result. But I'm not sure how well this idea generalizes or if there are any ways in which it breaks.

    • @shaurryabaheti
      @shaurryabaheti 2 месяца назад +21

      thats what I did xD

    • @Qaptyl
      @Qaptyl 2 месяца назад +38

      dx^2 is dx^2/dx * dx
      = d/dx[x^2] * dx
      = 2xdx

    • @ianmathwiz7
      @ianmathwiz7 2 месяца назад +33

      They are equivalent as long as g is continuously differentiable and strictly increasing.

    • @mrpsychodeliasmith
      @mrpsychodeliasmith 2 месяца назад +17

      That's exactly what I did. I put u = x^2, so dx^2 becomes du, and x = u^(1/2). Then integral is u^(1/2) du which gives U^(3/2) / 3/2 => 1/(3/2) i.e. 2/3.

    • @dank.
      @dank. 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@Qaptyl Leibniz notation is the best lol

  • @alexander8311
    @alexander8311 2 месяца назад +269

    nice try, but we know that dx is very small, so higher orders are basically zero which yields the trivial result of zero for the integral

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +84

      fucc, u got me D:

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon 2 месяца назад +53

      But this isn't (dx)^2, this is d(x^2).

    • @alexander8311
      @alexander8311 2 месяца назад +31

      @@KinuTheDragon for dx = x = 0 it holds

    • @diobrando7642
      @diobrando7642 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@alexander8311 wait, so dx = sin(x)

    • @othila9902
      @othila9902 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@diobrando7642
      wrong. dx=dsin(x)

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 2 месяца назад +19

    Once you defined the terms of the original integral it all made sense. I never thought about integrating across a different function instead of just dx.

  • @phonon1
    @phonon1 2 месяца назад +178

    Very useful integral in probability.

    • @williamnathanael412
      @williamnathanael412 2 месяца назад +4

      Help explain

    • @phonon1
      @phonon1 2 месяца назад +22

      @williamnathanael412 In statistics, every random variable admits a cumulative distribution function F_X, but not every random variable admits a density/mass function. So, in general, we can define the expected value of a random variable X as E(X)=\int x dF_X(x) (integrating w.r.t. the cdf).

    • @phonon1
      @phonon1 2 месяца назад

      @@williamnathanael412 see properties section in this wiki article as a starting point: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value?wprov=sfla1

    • @diobrando7642
      @diobrando7642 2 месяца назад

      ​@@phonon1isn't the generalized case the integral over Omega of X in dP?

    • @ekxo1126
      @ekxo1126 2 месяца назад

      yes he should also show for a discrete probability how the integral works out to be the usual sum

  • @FaerieDragonZook
    @FaerieDragonZook 2 месяца назад +43

    From the product rule, d(x*x^2) = x d(x^2) + dx*x^2. So x^3|(0->1) = int(x d(x^2))|(0->1) + int(x^2 dx)|(0->1). 1 = int(x d(x^2))|(0->1) + ⅓. So the answer is 1 - ⅓ = ⅔

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +8

      Very nice approach! :)

    • @siwygameplay
      @siwygameplay 2 месяца назад +1

      This is just integration by parts btw

    • @renanwilliamprado5380
      @renanwilliamprado5380 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@siwygameplay Not exactly, it depends on your interpretation.

    • @tfg601
      @tfg601 2 месяца назад

      @@renanwilliamprado5380 and what interpretation is that

  • @vincentproplayer
    @vincentproplayer 2 месяца назад +69

    Isn't this solvable by writing x as sqrt(x^2) and then treating it as int{sqrt(t)dt} with t= x^2

    • @hassanniaz7583
      @hassanniaz7583 2 месяца назад +64

      yea that's basically what i thought (to let x^2=u). But this video wasn't just about getting the right answer. This vid provided a good insight on what it means to integrate w.r.t g(x)...

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@hassanniaz7583Sure, but I thought he'd use substitution at the end to show how to relate the two different types of integrals.

    • @Brandon-be2uw
      @Brandon-be2uw 2 месяца назад +7

      Is really similar to the easier way he uses later in the video, but notice that x ≠ sqrt(x²), in fact, sqrt(x²) = |x|.
      Still, in this case, it is true, since we are working in [0,1], but the correct way to conclude what you said I think it would be
      Int x dx²
      Int x 2x dx
      Using t = x² and dt = 2x dx
      Int sqrt(t) dt

    • @digbycrankshaft7572
      @digbycrankshaft7572 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes. Exactly how I approached it.

    • @neboskryobchannel5303
      @neboskryobchannel5303 2 месяца назад

      Why using change of variables, isn't it just Int 2x^2 dx = 2/3 * x^3 ?

  • @mitch523
    @mitch523 2 месяца назад +18

    No one gonna talk about the farmers tan?? Goes crazyyyyy

    • @eigenchannel-137
      @eigenchannel-137 2 месяца назад

      Papa flammy has been engulfed in flamen!

  • @ricardoparada5375
    @ricardoparada5375 2 месяца назад +10

    Oh wow, I wasn’t expecting to see a Riemann-Stieltjes integral today

  • @flamurtarinegjakyt3745
    @flamurtarinegjakyt3745 2 месяца назад +25

    Never seen a definite integral done by definition. Very exciting video

  • @ChrisRossaroDidatticaDigitale
    @ChrisRossaroDidatticaDigitale 2 месяца назад +64

    12:00, 2i-1.

    • @ofridaniel2127
      @ofridaniel2127 2 месяца назад +5

      Yeah i thought i was crazy for a second

    • @adgalad25
      @adgalad25 2 месяца назад +5

      It yields the same result. But yeah.. it's 2i-1. I had to do the sum like 5 times to convince me 😂

  • @Legion22Cl217
    @Legion22Cl217 2 месяца назад +18

    Personaly, I'd just use some differential geometry result
    dx² is a volume form onto the segment [0,1], it can simply be calculated as : dx² = 2xdx (as it is the exterior derivative of the scalar field x->x²)
    Then your integral is simply 2 \int_0^1 x²dx=2/3, that's all folks

    • @dank.
      @dank. 2 месяца назад +5

      Exterior derivative go brrrrr

    • @tomfan5863
      @tomfan5863 2 месяца назад

      that was my immediate thought. dx^2 is 2 x dx, and then do the integral.

    • @GeodesicBruh
      @GeodesicBruh 2 месяца назад

      Yuuuup this is the way to do it quickly.

    • @vincentstone7272
      @vincentstone7272 2 месяца назад

      I like this way

  • @discontinuity7526
    @discontinuity7526 2 месяца назад +1

    this was exactly the kind of video I needed right now. I've been out of university for a few years and getting back into calculus, and your explanation at the beginning could not have been better for me. I had no idea you could integrate by different functions like that, and I was amazing that the result of xdx^2 was 2/3 haha. Absolute banger and I will definitely be revisiting this multiple times

  • @gabrieleinsiedel1849
    @gabrieleinsiedel1849 2 месяца назад +7

    19:08 = integrate [cos(x) d(sin(x))] from 0 to 1.
    1. Apply previous rule, yielding: integral {cos(x)[sin(x)]' dx} from 0 to 1
    2. Since derivative for sin(x) = cos(x), that yields: integral [cos²(x) dx] from 0 to 1
    3. Just solve
    4. = (1/2) + [sin(2)/4] 😁
    Edit: plus sign rectified 😅

    • @bobdavid01
      @bobdavid01 2 месяца назад +1

      Slight correction, the sin(2)/4 has a positive sign

  • @nablahnjr.6728
    @nablahnjr.6728 2 месяца назад +16

    nice display of Riemann/Stieltjes methods
    people just do the last one in practice though, now i wonder if there would be a generalization if g was not continuous

    • @tomkerruish2982
      @tomkerruish2982 2 месяца назад +3

      There is; in fact, the definition of the Riemann-Stieltjes integral does not require g(x) to be continuous. It must, however, be of bounded variation, which means it can't be too 'wiggly'.For example, sin(1/x) would be a bad choice in the vicinity of x=0, even if you explicitly exclude x=0. A full explanation is outside the scope of what I can write in a RUclips comment.

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon 2 месяца назад +5

      @@tomkerruish2982"I have a marvelous proof of this fact that this comment section is too narrow to contain."
      - Fermat if he used RUclips

  • @nigerianprinceajani
    @nigerianprinceajani 2 месяца назад +3

    It is dx² = 2xdx, so xdx² = x(2xdx), thus integral(0,1)(xdx²) = integral(0,1)(2x²dx) = 2integral(0,1)(x²dx) = 2(⅓1³ - ⅓0³) = ⅔
    Note that in identifying x(2xdx) with 2x²dx I'm using that we have a module operation from the ring of smooth functions on all differential-k-forms defined by left-multiplication.

  • @taterpun6211
    @taterpun6211 2 месяца назад

    Although it might not be obvious at first the point of this integral modification, one of its strengths shines in A(x) being a partial sum function (A(x)=A(floor(x))=sum of terms

  • @bingchilling4717
    @bingchilling4717 2 месяца назад +4

    couldnt you switch the variable? if you consider x^2=t that means x=sqrt t since x is possitive so the integral just becomres integral from 0 to1 of sqrt t dt which is 2/3

  • @georgasatryan3876
    @georgasatryan3876 2 месяца назад +2

    just say u= x^2 and you'll have integral(sqrt(u))du what equals ⅔*u^3/2 equals ⅔*(u^½)^3 and since u = x^2, it means sqrt(u) = x so: ⅔*x^3.

  • @gavinh8146
    @gavinh8146 2 месяца назад +2

    At 11:53 he says “2i - i” but means, I think, “2i - 1”. I found this very confusing at first because the “i”s look almost the same as the “1”s on the blackboard.

    • @fritskuijk
      @fritskuijk 2 месяца назад

      You are right, but whatever comes out of it will be of size n and thus will be ruled out by the n^-3 factor. That might be the reason he did not correct the error if he became aware of it

  • @douglasstrother6584
    @douglasstrother6584 2 месяца назад +1

    That was fun! Very "Michael Penn".

  • @ben_adel3437
    @ben_adel3437 2 месяца назад +1

    I love evil looking integrals and the fact that we can actually do stuff to calculate them

  • @encounteringjack5699
    @encounteringjack5699 2 месяца назад

    Nice!
    Little piece of new info.
    I tried it before watching and got the same answer.
    What I did was I set x^2 as y. Solved for x to get sqrt(y). Didn’t change the bounds cuz it’s just 0 to 1 and those don’t think would really change given this scenario.
    So now it’s the integral from 0 to 1 of sqrt(y) with respect to y.
    This gives the answer of 2/3 as well.
    Playing for a bit, changing the bounds to that function is accurate. If it were 0 to 2, it’d be the integral from 0 to 4 since (0)^2 is 0 and (2)^2 is 4. Comparing that to the form of solving this for continuous functions.
    Integral from a to b of f times g’ dx. Gets the same answer for the 0 to 2 situation. Which is 16/3.

  • @-.-Infinity-.-
    @-.-Infinity-.- Месяц назад

    For context At 2:40 and just a senior at highschool
    Isn't this the same as Integral of √xdx from 0 to 1
    Can't we just extrapolate the answer from that
    Or let x²=u then it just becomes a normal integral
    With the last formula,
    Int cosx d(sinx)
    = Int cosx × cosx dx
    = Int cos²x dx
    = Int (cos2x+1)/2 dx
    = (1/2) Int (cos2x +1) dx
    = (1/2) (sin2x/2 + x + C1)
    = Sin2x/4 + x/2 + C
    Sorry if I did anything incorrect
    But is that really the only way to do that, i feel.we can maybe play around with the fact that cosx and sinx are derivates/integrals of each other

  • @abhirupkundu2778
    @abhirupkundu2778 2 месяца назад

    We got just use the substitution, x^2=t. x= root(t) assuming x is positive for this integral. So we got root(t)dt, = 2/3t^3/2= 2/3x^3, and applying the limits, we get 2/3

  • @epicperson9961
    @epicperson9961 2 месяца назад

    This is how I did it:
    Let x² = t,
    Such that dx²/dt = 1,
    Hence dx² = dt.
    As a result the integral §xdx² becomes §√tdt which equals 2/3 √t³ + c
    Of which you can re-sub to obtain 2x³/3 + c.
    Substituting bounds, you then get 2/3.

  • @tushi10
    @tushi10 2 месяца назад

    It's simple, you can Wright the x to ((x^)1/2)^2. Then you simply integration it and you will get (2x^3)/3. Then you input the limit and the ans is 2/3.

  • @user-SK22-calc
    @user-SK22-calc 2 месяца назад

    we can compute dx^2 using the chain rule:
    dx^2=dx^2/dx*dx=(x^2)'*dx=2xdx
    int x dx^2=int 2x^2 dx=2/3x^3. after evaluation we get 2/3.

  • @Djenzh
    @Djenzh 2 месяца назад

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  • @threepointone415
    @threepointone415 2 месяца назад +15

    The Rie-womann Integral

  • @Mrlonely345
    @Mrlonely345 2 месяца назад +1

    Its becomes really easy if we write dx^2 = 2xdx . And the answer is 2/3 simple

  • @dougr.2398
    @dougr.2398 2 месяца назад +3

    dx ^ 2 = 2x dx

    • @dougr.2398
      @dougr.2398 Месяц назад

      Notation is unclear is dx^2 interpreted as (dx)^2 or d(x^2)??? Both in the video and my comment!!!!

    • @dougr.2398
      @dougr.2398 Месяц назад

      If the former is intended, then an additional integral sign is needed, so the latter is assumed to be the intent and correct

  • @kappasphere
    @kappasphere 2 месяца назад +1

    Commenting from just the thumbnail to say that it makes perfect sense if you just say y=x², implying dy = 2x dx, so dx² = 2x dx. In total:
    int_0^1 x dx²
    = int_0^1 x 2x dx
    = int_0^1 2x² dx
    = [2/3 x³]_0^1
    = ⅔

  • @firozabegum4373
    @firozabegum4373 2 месяца назад

    "Nonlinear Partition Scaling" explains it all

  • @cheddastacker
    @cheddastacker 2 месяца назад +1

    Looking absolutely yoked man 🔥

  • @7th_dwarf542
    @7th_dwarf542 2 месяца назад

    very clear and didactic 👏 thank you for this contribution

  • @wagsman9999
    @wagsman9999 2 месяца назад +1

    Look out, the guns are out to stay!

  • @als2cents679
    @als2cents679 2 месяца назад

    I did it is a much simpler way
    Integral [x d(x^2)] x^2 going from 0 to 1
    = Integral [x du] u going from 0 to 1, where u = x^2
    du = 2 x dx
    and when u = 0, x = 0 and when u = 1, x = 1 for the limits of the definite integral
    So,
    Integral [ x du ] u going from 0 to 1
    = Integral [ x (2 x dx) ] x going from 0 to 1
    = 2 * Integral [ x^2 dx ] x going from 0 to 1
    = 2 * [ x^3 / 3 ] from 0 to 1
    = (2/3) * [ x^3 ] from 0 to 1
    = (2/3) * (1^3 - 0^3)
    = (2/3) * (1 - 0)
    = (2/3) * (1)
    = 2/3

  • @laitinlok1
    @laitinlok1 Месяц назад

    Let u=x^2, du/dx= 2x, du= 2x dx , so the integral becomes x 2x dx, when u=0, x=0, when u=1, x=+-1.

  • @jewgenijmoldawski3306
    @jewgenijmoldawski3306 2 месяца назад

    My first guess was: let y=x^2 and therefore x=y^1/2. Then integrate y^1/2 with respect dy. The result is of course also 2/3

  • @Kunal1255
    @Kunal1255 2 месяца назад

    So there are two branches of x for the equation y=x^2, hence I would expect that there are two possible solutions, namely +2/3 or -2/3, corresponding to each branch. Can you explain why we disregarded the other branch?

  • @marekrawluk
    @marekrawluk 2 месяца назад

    Yet another way: d(x^2) may be multiplied by 1, where 1 = dx/dx. Next d(x^2) * (1/dx *dx) makes d(x^2)/dx *dx, and this yields to 2x*dx, guessed immediately, waiting impatiently till 18:00.
    No formal prove, just "an engineer" version, but when our mathematical language uses some basic "grammar" rules it should be created in that way - our convention way.
    The 2x multiplier makes non-linear expansion on x axis of a regular Riemann integral, showed quickly somewhere in the mid part of the movie.

  • @theangledsaxon6765
    @theangledsaxon6765 2 месяца назад

    Why haven’t your vids been recommended in so long?? Missing papa flammy!

  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 2 месяца назад

    xdx^2 = x•2xdx = 2x^2dx = d(2x^3/3)
    So the value of the given definite integral is 2/3 - 0 = 2/3.

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  • @wjalp
    @wjalp 2 месяца назад

    Watched until the end! Also the assignment's answer is = 1/2+(sin(2))/4 :DD

  • @loganhagendoorn6327
    @loganhagendoorn6327 2 месяца назад +1

    love your content, thats such a smart way to solve this!

  • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
    @RuthvenMurgatroyd 2 месяца назад

    In the spirit of the intro meme 0:03 I like to think about it like this:
    dx² = 2xdx
    ∴ ∫xdx² = ∫x(2xdx) = 2∫x²dx = ⅔x³ + C.
    hence when the integral is evaluated from 0 to 1 it equals ⅔.
    19:19
    sin(x) is differentiable everywhere on the real number line so it's differentiable on that interval.
    dsin(x) = cos(x)dx
    ∴ ∫cos(x)dsin(x) = ∫cos(x)[cos(x)dx] = ∫cos²(x)dx = ½x + ¼sin(2x) + C.
    hence when the integral is evaluated from 0 to 1 it equals ½ + ¼sin(2) ≈ 0.7273243567.

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak 2 месяца назад +2

    Wait am I coping?
    Can't we just index u = x^2?
    We would get int(0-1) u^(1/2)du
    Which solves to (2/3)u^(3/2)](0-1)
    And if we put back in x^2 for you we get
    (2/3)x^3](0-1)
    Which seems identical to the expected result.
    That seems to simple though so please tell me where I'm just completely wrong.

  • @jebarijihed
    @jebarijihed 2 месяца назад +1

    hey great video ! Is it possble so to do the integral of 1/dx ?

  • @dragileinchen1485
    @dragileinchen1485 2 месяца назад

    I really like to see the views on this vid. Hope this shows you, what your community really wants to see. I dont think more than 1% wants exponent rules.

  • @melonking9752
    @melonking9752 2 месяца назад +1

    I think we could've just solve it by saying x²=y and x=√y and so ∫¹₀ x dx² will be ∫¹₀ √y dy and the result will be (2y^3/2)/3 |¹₀ and the result of it is 2/3.

    • @Awdcguk
      @Awdcguk 2 месяца назад

      Use the absolute value for that

    • @melonking9752
      @melonking9752 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AwdcgukBecause of the square root? Also do you think my way makes sense?

  • @kostasch5686
    @kostasch5686 2 месяца назад +2

    The 6 dislikes are probably coming from the very misleading thumbnail featuring Feynman and x*dsinx.

  • @thekingofgindio
    @thekingofgindio 2 месяца назад +7

    I'm afraid to ask why your right bicep seems larger than your left one

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +16

      Masturbation I guess.

    • @thekingofgindio
      @thekingofgindio 2 месяца назад +2

      @@PapaFlammy69 😎

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      @celestindupilon2773 2 месяца назад

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    • @lithunoisan
      @lithunoisan 2 месяца назад

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  • @marcosmaldonado7890
    @marcosmaldonado7890 2 месяца назад

    nice riemann-stieltjes integral👍🏻👍🏻

  • @juliank.3522
    @juliank.3522 2 месяца назад +1

    How did you get [ 2*i - i ] in the left bottom corner of the first page? Thx

  • @crypticcrazy3672
    @crypticcrazy3672 Месяц назад

    To equalize the subdivisions of the ordinate axis, I replaced x with SQRT(y) and dx^2 with dy, and the integral value of 2/3 pops out. (limits are unchanged) I have no idea if this presents any kind of general solution. I see others did the same.

  • @appleducky5234
    @appleducky5234 2 месяца назад

    What would you do if the limits of integration don't match up?
    For all the examples you do dx^2 and dsin(x) the limits, 0 and 1 when plugged in result in new limits sin(1) = 1 and (1)^2 = 1 and similar for zero.
    For the Thumbnail integral the limits 0 to 2 don't match up and sinx never reaches 2.
    Since this trick operates on similar principals to U-Substitution wouldn't we need to change the limits of integration, and for the thumbnail example also split the integral into two pieces since sinx is not 1to1 from 0 to 2.

  • @rajdeepsingh26
    @rajdeepsingh26 2 месяца назад +5

    I have a tip for you for better videos
    * better lighting

  • @melonking9752
    @melonking9752 2 месяца назад +2

    Before watching it, my answer is 2/3

  • @robfielding8566
    @robfielding8566 2 месяца назад

    Wow, what a complicated way to use the notation.
    This is how I do it:
    // my definition of integral, as a cancellation of S and d, where d is implicit diff operator
    S [d f] = f - f_0, d[f_0]=0
    S (x d[x^2])
    = S x*2*x dx
    = 2 S (x^2 dx)
    = 2/3 S d[x^3]
    = 2/3 x^3 - f_0
    = 2/3 1^3 - 2/3 0^3
    = 2/3

  • @jorgeperezmolina2235
    @jorgeperezmolina2235 Месяц назад

    Shouldn't the x^2 be in parentesis? I mean, dx^2 looks like dx*dx, while d(x^2) would look like 2x*dx. After all, in a second order derivative, where the notation used has no parentesis, we kinda mean dx*dx. I mean the "denominator" of the derivative, btw.

  • @mr.inhuman7932
    @mr.inhuman7932 2 месяца назад +1

    Well this seems interesting.

  • @alali2885
    @alali2885 2 месяца назад

    much much simpler would it be to just take d(x^2) = 2x*dx, then we would get 2*int(x^2 dx)|(0->1), and then basically (2*(x^3 /3))|(0->1) which is equal to 2/3...

  • @evanwilliams7376
    @evanwilliams7376 2 месяца назад

    Imagine saying this only works for real functions and then going crazy with the i's.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 2 месяца назад

    Okay, this makes sense. I thought you were going to integrate over (dx)^2, not d(x^2), which would really be crazy

  • @Dissimulate
    @Dissimulate 2 месяца назад

    Or just substitute u=x^2.
    sqrt(u)=x
    x=0 -> u=0
    x=1 -> u=1
    Integral(0->1)(sqrt(u)du) = (2/3)u^(3/2) | (0 -> 1)
    = (2/3)(1)^(3/2) - (2/3)(0)^(3/2)
    = 2/3

  • @bantix9902
    @bantix9902 2 месяца назад

    We should get the same value for the integral if it's just a different partition of the x-axis.

  • @hellohello-tf9vc
    @hellohello-tf9vc 2 месяца назад

    just write x=(x2)^1/2 and it becoomes a pretty simple integral

  • @Phaust94
    @Phaust94 2 месяца назад

    Let's do Lebesgue-Stiltjes now

  • @nikitaluzhbin8982
    @nikitaluzhbin8982 2 месяца назад +2

    Really?
    Just a clickbate!
    d(x^2) = 2xd(x)
    S[0,1] x * 2xd(x) = S[0,1] 2x^2d(x) = [0, 1] | 2/3x^ = 2/3 * 1^3 - 2/3 * 0^3 = 2/3

  • @emilleonardelli4047
    @emilleonardelli4047 2 месяца назад

    17:35 I'm not sure and maybe I'm wrong, but isn't there a theorem that for a complex function a derivative exist? Does that mean complex functions are always integrateble that way?

  • @m.h.6470
    @m.h.6470 2 месяца назад

    just substitute x² with y, then you get
    Integral from 0 to 1 of √y dy, which results in 2/3. Done.

  • @tmlen845
    @tmlen845 2 месяца назад

    Can't you just set X = x^2 (so x = √X), and then calculate the normal integral of √X d X, with X from 0 to √1? At least for this example, it seems to give the same result 2/3.

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam 2 месяца назад

    I have one question. If the intuition is that we're dividing the segment according to the function g rather than linearly, why do we still take x_i to be i times delta x?

  • @flutterwind7686
    @flutterwind7686 2 месяца назад

    d g(x) looks eerily similar to
    d g(x) / dx so the result seems kinda obvious in that way.
    d g(x) / dx = g'(x) can be rearranged to d g(x) = g'(x) dx

  • @sobhhi
    @sobhhi 2 месяца назад

    Gnarly farmer’s tan bro

  • @topquark22
    @topquark22 2 месяца назад

    In the Riemann integral, the partitions are equidistant. The point here is, they need not be.

  • @Hussain-px3fc
    @Hussain-px3fc 2 месяца назад +1

    Before continuing the video the shirt caught my attention, why is 57 the best prime?

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +3

      Grothendieck prime

    • @Hussain-px3fc
      @Hussain-px3fc 2 месяца назад

      Oh I see, I didn’t even notice that it wasn’t actually a prime until now 😅 and great video btw

  • @sumdumbmick
    @sumdumbmick 2 месяца назад

    it actually applies in all cases. it's merely that the standard case results in f'(x) being the multiplicative identity, so it's not necessary to be aware of it:
    if f(x) = x then f'(x) = 1
    ∫ g(x) df(x) = ∫ g(x) f'(x) dx = 1 ∫ g(x) dx = ∫ g(x) dx

  • @broucho
    @broucho Месяц назад

    I don't get what you do at 11:52, in the parenthesis i think i squared disappear and i get 2i -1 but you write i(2i -i), and of course over n3

  • @bastianfrom77
    @bastianfrom77 2 месяца назад

    That kind of stuff was actually "high school" stuff in germany around mid 90s - it is called integration by substitution.

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 месяца назад +2

      Nope, Stieltjes has nothing to do with substitution.

    • @bastianfrom77
      @bastianfrom77 2 месяца назад

      @@PapaFlammy69 das sieht zumindest sehr ähnlich aus. Was ist der konkrete Unterschied?

  • @APaleDot
    @APaleDot 2 месяца назад

    Is this the motivation for the 'd' operator for the exterior derivative?

  • @wjalp
    @wjalp 2 месяца назад

    I really enjoyed this video! Keep it up! :DD

  • @nalydify
    @nalydify 2 месяца назад

    I'm confused about how at 10:15 you say x_i is still i/n when we've just redefined delta(x) to be g(x_i)-g(x_i-1), since x_i = 0 + idelta(x), don't we need to recalculate x_i using our new delta(x)?

  • @thomastd5
    @thomastd5 2 месяца назад +1

    9:55 When doing the new integral, you wrote the new f(x_i) as the same as the one in the previous integral, namely f(x_i) = f(i/n) = i/n. However, this defining of x_i used the previous value for Delta x (Delta x = i/n), instead of the new value for Delta x (Delta x = g(x_i) - g(x_i-1). How can you still say that f(x_i) is the same even after this new value for delta x?

    • @bantix9902
      @bantix9902 2 месяца назад

      No he can't. That's what i thought as well.

  • @poyrazpekcan6635
    @poyrazpekcan6635 2 месяца назад

    I tried by saying dx^2 = du then integrated both sides however that gives me a + c (tho it conveniently gives the right answer for c = 0)

  • @MathematicFanatic
    @MathematicFanatic 2 месяца назад

    Isn't there some sense in which d(x^2) is simply equal to 2x dx? It is not some kind of trick, they are literally equal and can be substituted for one another, which makes this wacky integral in fact very easy!

  • @ninireak7325
    @ninireak7325 2 месяца назад

    That is ONE solution, if dx² means d(x²). But if dx² would mean (dx)² the solution is 0, because the volume under a surface of infinitesimal thickness tends to zero.

  • @siwygameplay
    @siwygameplay 2 месяца назад

    Or you can just think about this as integration by parts: x dg(x)=d(xg(x))-g(x)dx and integrate both sides

  • @nerdygeek8947
    @nerdygeek8947 2 месяца назад

    Flammy try integral(0 to 1) (x*d[x]) ;[x] is the greatest integral function

  • @elcolicous
    @elcolicous 2 месяца назад

    int[xd(x^2)] = int[sqrt(p)d(p)] = 2/3 p^(3/2), for p from 0 to 1: 2/3

  • @boranxiii
    @boranxiii 2 месяца назад +1

    isn't d(x²) just 2xdx?

  • @bahaloicperrial8964
    @bahaloicperrial8964 2 месяца назад

    I didn't use this method. I instead use u=x**0.5, and i differiented both sides, and I applied it. It gave me 2/3

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  • @MarcusPereiraRJ
    @MarcusPereiraRJ 2 месяца назад

    But if g'(x) is a notation for dg(x)/dx, isn't it obviously deductible that dg(x) = g'(x).dx? Not trolling, really: what is so spectacular about that?

  • @thaianotran3315
    @thaianotran3315 2 месяца назад

    isn't d x^2 = 2x dx? so the integral becomes the integral from 0 to 1 of 2x^2 dx

  • @Nerdwithoutglasses
    @Nerdwithoutglasses 2 месяца назад

    To those who say "why don't we use d(x^2)=2xdx or let u=x^2": surely you didn't read the title. Think twice or you will be r/wooooshed. This is not a place to show how good you are at "your calculus". Flammable Maths makes serious mathematic jokes, pay some respect.

  • @fahimnabeel606
    @fahimnabeel606 2 месяца назад

    What about the product integral, where the dx is in power, does this apply there as well, or is that completely different

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    @renomado8616 2 месяца назад

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