What Lies Above Pascal's Triangle?

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen 6 месяцев назад +1612

    Wow this is super interesting!

    • @Game_Sometimes
      @Game_Sometimes 6 месяцев назад +16

      I agree

    • @drenzine
      @drenzine 6 месяцев назад +83

      woah it's blackpenredpen!!

    • @Mr.MaccaMan
      @Mr.MaccaMan 6 месяцев назад +13

      what i said ong

    • @TerraBlo
      @TerraBlo 6 месяцев назад +11

      I thought it would've been the same but upside down or negative or fractions

    • @slendergolem4783
      @slendergolem4783 6 месяцев назад +14

      BPRP?!!!???

  • @jo555444
    @jo555444 6 месяцев назад +1002

    Pascal's triangle was one of the first programs I wrote in 1982 learning Pascal. It was just simple enough for a 13 years old child. And here we are, a PhD talks 25 minutes about it. In Math there is always so much more in every problem. I love it, thank you.

    • @elizathegamer413
      @elizathegamer413 6 месяцев назад +35

      Makes sense to learn **pascals** triangle in pascal

    • @saltycucumber2773
      @saltycucumber2773 6 месяцев назад +4

      You can up with it?

    • @elizathegamer413
      @elizathegamer413 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@saltycucumber2773 no, but they wrote a program for it.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 6 месяцев назад

      That sounds really boring. Whybwould abyoen want to sit innfront of a dsmn co outer all day or even for a few bours? And isnt math in general tedious and frustrating?

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 6 месяцев назад +4

      I reckon I need to learn how to program Java's triangle now.

  • @slowfreq
    @slowfreq 6 месяцев назад +500

    This is so insane how is this the first time I've ever seen this idea?

    • @metepure
      @metepure 6 месяцев назад +6

      hi slowfreq i love your music its cool to see you here

    • @slowfreq
      @slowfreq 5 месяцев назад +5

      @metepure WHAT?!?!??!? Dang dude thanks!!!!

    • @Ggdivhjkjl
      @Ggdivhjkjl 5 месяцев назад +2

      I've seen it before.

  • @jackkalver4644
    @jackkalver4644 6 месяцев назад +652

    I was thinking 1/2 above 1 and alternating -1/2 and 1/2 on either side, since the triangle seemed symmetric.

    • @fsponj
      @fsponj 6 месяцев назад +139

      That's what I thought too since generalising something something involves conserving many properties such as symmetry.
      He probably just used other generalisations because they were more interesting.

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers 6 месяцев назад +15

      the question is than, what is above these both? (between)

    • @fsponj
      @fsponj 6 месяцев назад +72

      @@schwingedeshaehers so there's 1, above that is ½ ½, above that is ¼ ¼ ¼, aboce that is ⅛ ⅛ ⅛ ⅛ etc.
      This breaks a pattern though, which is that the sum of the numbers in the nth row is 2ⁿ⁻¹, but if n = 0, the sum would be 1 instead of 2⁻¹. We could create a new formula for nonpositive values of n which is 2ⁿ⁻¹(2-n)

    • @FrankHarwald
      @FrankHarwald 6 месяцев назад +22

      YES! This is the only way the extended Pascal's triangle for negative n carries over the symmetry around the axis of mid coefficients.

    • @henrysaid9470
      @henrysaid9470 6 месяцев назад +8

      Well I mean if it was wouldn’t just be half of Pascal’s triangle (ignoring the negatives)?
      Edit: wait nvm but what would it be?
      Edit: wait nvm it would be that
      Edit: wait nvm it could also be other things

  • @jacksonschuetzle5336
    @jacksonschuetzle5336 6 месяцев назад +578

    Mind blown when he showed the original triangle rotated at the top

    • @Faroshkas
      @Faroshkas 6 месяцев назад +16

      Truly

    • @bob_kazamakis
      @bob_kazamakis 6 месяцев назад +14

      Highly suggest you watch the veritasium video on how Newton found a way to calculate pi. Will blow your mind further

    • @georgesos
      @georgesos 6 месяцев назад +2

      Indeed ,that was a key observation I never expected .

    • @nielskorpel8860
      @nielskorpel8860 6 месяцев назад +6

      I've seen quite some math.
      I learned something today.
      Math is beautiful.

    • @abhshk777
      @abhshk777 6 месяцев назад

      thanks for suggestion. great video ​@@bob_kazamakis

  • @worldnotworld
    @worldnotworld 6 месяцев назад +139

    It's also fascinating that the symmetry of the bottom (classic) part of the triangle is broken -- arbitrarily, really -- by a decision about whether we read the coefficients right-to-left or conversely.

  • @misraimburgos7461
    @misraimburgos7461 6 месяцев назад +348

    Everywhere you look up new thing in Math it seems like beauty always emerge.

    • @iidoyila_live_
      @iidoyila_live_ 6 месяцев назад +10

      as a demon girl, some of the more friendly demons spend our whole lives immersed in the chaos and waterfall of numbers :3

    • @cyrilmeynier5688
      @cyrilmeynier5688 6 месяцев назад +9

      Sociologisst : you shouldn't generalize.
      Mathematicians : yes you should !

    • @crix_h3eadshotgg992
      @crix_h3eadshotgg992 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@iidoyila_live_is this a maxwell demon’s kind of demon girl or a kink? What does “demon girl” even mean in this context???

    • @christopherellis2663
      @christopherellis2663 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Magical Wife.

    • @nielskorpel8860
      @nielskorpel8860 6 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@cyrilmeynier5688Matgematicians have means to prove you can generalise, and a keenness to be careful about whether they can.
      People who generalise other people have neither.

  • @jbullforg
    @jbullforg 6 месяцев назад +517

    my smooth brain wanted a and b to both be equal to 1/2 or 0.5

    • @cannot-handle-handles
      @cannot-handle-handles 6 месяцев назад +98

      That feels like a canonical choice to me. As pointed out in another comment yesterday, generalizing something sometimes involves conserving many properties, such as symmetry.

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 6 месяцев назад +18

      I wonder how that'd look like when extended upwards.

    • @PedroCristian
      @PedroCristian 6 месяцев назад +13

      Here is another way to exclude 1/2. The sum of the n-th row of the Pascal triangle is 2^n (expansion of (1+1)^2). But 1/2-1/2+1/2..=1/4. Because 1-1+1..=1/2. 😉Indeed, we can see this sum as the sum of a geometrical sequence of reason r=-1 which is 1/(1-r) for r>0.. If we apply it for - 1 we get sum=1/2. It is a bit of a stretch, as mathematically the sum is just a non converging serie alternating between 0 and 1,but it makes sense somehow..

    • @lkjhgfdsaqqwetewqq
      @lkjhgfdsaqqwetewqq 5 месяцев назад +5

      Can you really do 1/2-1/2+1/2… though? In the middle we have a +1/2+1/2 which means this series isn’t exactly alternating and order matters with infinite series

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@PedroCristian how (and why) are you assigning values to non-convergent series? :-s
      PS it's a ratio not a "reason". ;-) Also -1 is not >0 so you can't really "apply it for". 🤓

  • @Aras14
    @Aras14 6 месяцев назад +33

    I once did the expansion while bored in class. It's nice now learning of proofs and further expansions, thanks!

  • @pittagiiya
    @pittagiiya 6 месяцев назад +441

    "What lies above Pascal's Triangle? Pascal's Triangle."

    • @maksiiiskam2
      @maksiiiskam2 6 месяцев назад +68

      It's Pascal's triangle's Wario.
      Wascal's triangle.

    • @willferrous8677
      @willferrous8677 5 месяцев назад +14

      Pascal's Triangle all the way up

    • @anamonteiro1173
      @anamonteiro1173 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@maksiiiskam2 RASCAL'S TRIANGLE??!!

    • @hdthor
      @hdthor 5 месяцев назад +2

      A 90-degree rotated Pascal’s triangle.

    • @Mmmmmmicrowave
      @Mmmmmmicrowave 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@hdthor It'd be 60 degrees

  • @khan8719
    @khan8719 6 месяцев назад +79

    Never knew this pattern existed, great explanation cheers

  • @GroundThing
    @GroundThing 6 месяцев назад +119

    This is honestly the first place I've seen the series expansion of (1+x)^-n for |x|>1 by leveraging the fact that (1+x)^-n = x^-n*(1+1/x)^-n, and it's one of those things that feels so obvious in hindsight, that it's hard to believe it never occurred to me before seeing this video

    • @Hypotenuse-z8f
      @Hypotenuse-z8f 6 месяцев назад +1

      Or you can use generating functions

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 6 месяцев назад +1

      You should watch veritasium’s video about newton and pi. It’s better and shows how you can calculate things like cube roots using an infinite sum.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 6 месяцев назад

      How is it obvious in hindsight? And it eoukd just be zeroes and 1s above the first row anyway right since itherwise it wouldnt sum ton2?

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 6 месяцев назад

      @@leif1075 negative numbers is what you have

    • @АндрейДенькевич
      @АндрейДенькевич 5 месяцев назад

      Also pascal triangle * pascal triangle = cube
      cube * pascal triangle = donut

  • @qiaochuyuan7226
    @qiaochuyuan7226 6 месяцев назад +37

    Hi, great video! What's happening at the end there in terms of the doubly infinite series can actually be made sense of rigorously, if you're willing to ignore convergence. Just like you can write down formal power series with arbitrary coefficients while ignoring convergence, you can write down "doubly infinite formal Laurent series" with arbitrary coefficients in both directions while ignoring convergence.
    These things are no longer closed under multiplication so they don't form a ring, but you can still multiply such a series by a polynomial (even a Laurent polynomial), so they are still a *module* over polynomials (or even Laurent polynomials), and what your calculation is doing is repeatedly attempting to invert the operation of multiplication by (1 + x).
    The reason you get this 1-parameter family of choices when you try to extend upward is that multiplication by (1 + x) is not invertible (unlike in formal power series where it is invertible) - there's a series p(x) such that (1 + x) p(x) = 0, namely the series p(x) = sum_{n in Z} (-1)^n x^n, which has the property that if you multiply it by x you get -p(x)! This series can be interpreted as the "Dirac delta at x = -1," since it has the more general property that if f(x) is any polynomial then f(x) q(x) = f(-1) q(x). The fact that it has coefficients going off infinitely in both directions is related to what happens when you take the Fourier transform of the Dirac delta, and the fact that doubly infinite formal Laurent series aren't closed under multiplication is related to the fact that you can't multiply Dirac deltas together.
    So, every time you try to invert (1 + x) you end up with another 1-parameter family of choices you can make, because every time you have the freedom to add another multiple of p(x). (And it's exactly 1 parameter, not more; it's not hard to show the kernel of multiplication by (1 + x) is 1-dimensional with basis p(x).)
    Cheers,
    Qiaochu

    • @Zeuskabob1
      @Zeuskabob1 5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh wow! I didn't get most of that due to a lacking math background, but it's incredible! I'm definitely going to look into the Fourier transform of the Dirac delta function.

    • @levivanveen6568
      @levivanveen6568 5 месяцев назад

      Is there a way to do it without trying to invert (1+x) so that it can grow upwards differently?

    • @qiaochuyuan7226
      @qiaochuyuan7226 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@levivanveen6568 Well, if by "grow upwards differently" you mean "in a way that still satisfies Pascal's rule" then this is the only option: what I mean by "trying to invert (1 + x)" is just an abstract way of saying "trying to extend upwards while keeping Pascal's rule."

    • @giggabiite4417
      @giggabiite4417 5 месяцев назад

      Wow! I understood none of this lol.
      I guess I have some reading to do

  • @alipourzand6499
    @alipourzand6499 6 месяцев назад +54

    Next time (1+x)^sqrt(2) ☺
    Great video

  • @sabotagedgamerz
    @sabotagedgamerz 6 месяцев назад +32

    The final diagram with 3 separate scalar multiples of Pascal’s Triangles with 0s in between was truly beautiful. The proof (for the binomial coefficients doing that) was also extremely satisfying and cleanly done! I’ve also never seen expansions of real binomials for abs(x) > 1. Just wow!

  • @danthiel8623
    @danthiel8623 3 месяца назад +4

    It is pascals triangle rotated 60 degrees with alternating forms of negative and positive numbers. So fascinating!

  • @AidenOcelot
    @AidenOcelot 6 месяцев назад +5

    I am so happy that you've made this video, I looked this up a few years back and I'm happy that others can enjoy this concept!

  • @invaderpopz
    @invaderpopz 4 месяца назад +4

    Amazing video! At everyone in the comments who is asking why he didn't talk about using 1/2 + 1/2 = 1... he did!! In the end of the video the purpose of generalizing to a and b is to allow you to choose ANY values of a and b that sum to 1, which includes 1/2! So just pause the video at the end and replace a and b both with 1/2 and you have the triangle you're asking for. It's certainly the most aesthetically pleasing and temtping choice, but to everyone insisting that symmetry is the most important property of pascal's triangle that needs to be preserved, I urge you to learn more about Pascal's triangle@ The really neat thing is he showed in the end basically that while there are many other exciting patterns to explore, the only choices for (a,b) that lead to convergent series expansions are (1,0) and (0,1). It's pretty freaking cool. Of course I wanted the "canonical" answer to involve 1/2 as well, that's human instinct, but it's delightfully charming when math gives us an ego check and reminds us there are much more unexpected ways for things to be beautiful. Ultimately I find the general form with a and b to be the most beautiful. It shows the perfect symmetry in its own way and represents an infinite spectrum of pascals triangles, precisely two of which have rows that represent valid convergent series expansions, and one of which is perfectly symmetrical. HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE IT!!! 😍

  • @frankg7786
    @frankg7786 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is remarkably well explained. Thank you from just a guy online who is interested in some math

  • @BarryRowe-gh5yq
    @BarryRowe-gh5yq 6 месяцев назад +9

    When I did this in undergrad, i found that a = b = 1. Instead of extending with the addition rule, I used the n choose k formula for the coefficients and made the assumption that -1! would be some kind of undefined infinite value, but 1/-1! would be 0, and the factorial relation would be preserved. The pattern fills out like you would expect with a=b=1, but the reason why the addition rule breaks down at that spot is because the proof of the addition rule for n choose k would do a division by 0 at that spot.
    After that, I played around with higher dimensional pascal's triangles, which helps when you have the assumption that the outsides of the triangles/tetrahedrons are 0.

  • @worldnotworld
    @worldnotworld 6 месяцев назад +20

    This is utterly remarkable. How do such things work so well? It reminds me of extrapolating the notion of exponent from integer "counts" of multiplication out to negative and fractional exponents: just extend the additive arithmetic for whole exponents to any number, "pretending" that it still holds, and voila...

  • @zeb9302
    @zeb9302 5 месяцев назад +4

    I've always extended Pascal's Triangle in my mind as if there was an extremely tiny, infinitesimal chance that there was a glitch in the summation. So you start with an infinite hexagonal grid of 0s, each 0 the sum of two other zeros. Except randomly, at some point in the infinite expanse...there's a "glitch" and 0+0=1. And from that, the entire Pascal's Triangle is generated.
    Similarly: the Fibonacci series.

  • @edmundwoolliams1240
    @edmundwoolliams1240 6 месяцев назад +85

    Yes! Perfect way to spend this beautiful Friday morning, accompanying my cup of tea, toast, and bowl of porridge 😊

    • @BlokenArrow
      @BlokenArrow 6 месяцев назад +29

      Tell me you’re from England without telling me you’re from England

    • @iMíccoli
      @iMíccoli 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@BlokenArrowexactly xD

    • @cihant5438
      @cihant5438 6 месяцев назад +4

      I am drinking coffee. We don't do porridge in AZ, as it is already 100 degrees at 6:00 am.

    • @radadadadee
      @radadadadee 6 месяцев назад

      I'm also watching on a Friday morning during breakfast! XD

    • @matthewryan4844
      @matthewryan4844 6 месяцев назад +1

      Not just the English. Im Irish and we love our tea and porridge. Also I think porridge is mostly a Scottish thing rather than English. But then again everyone can enjoy good food with good maths.

  • @skeome
    @skeome 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is one of the two options, yes
    If you follow the / diagonal, a is 0 and b is 1
    If you follow the \ diagonal, a is 1 and b is zero
    They're both the same, just flipped over the y axis

  • @oxbmaths
    @oxbmaths 6 месяцев назад +13

    Nice video and explanation :)
    How about doing a sequel on "What Lies Between Numbers in Pascal's Triangle"?
    Is there a continuous function that smoothly interpolates all the discrete values of Pascal's triangle, like how the gamma function interpolates discrete values of the factorial function?

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 6 месяцев назад +6

      The kth term of the nth row can be found as n!/((n-k)!k!). Switching to the continuous version of the factorial gives Π(n)/(Π(n-k)Π(k)), (though you might be more familiar with Γ(n+1)/(Γ(n-k+1)Γ(k+1)) )
      This version would give smooth intermediate values for Pascal's triangle, however since the Pi function diverges for negative integers (corresponding to the Gamma function diverging for negative integers and zero), it wouldn't be able to give the discrete values of the extended Pascal's triangle without some limits.
      There is another way to extend Pascal's triangle as Π(a + b + c + ...)/(Π(a)Π(b)Π(c)...) for multinomial expansions with arbitrary numbers of terms.

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 6 месяцев назад +2

    You are sofa-king good at this I really hope you do this for the rest of your life. Recorded videos like this are forever. You're so good at this and there's no overhead but the upside to society in perpetuity is exponentially great ROI on this investment.
    Keep at it, please. This kind of content is what makes RUclips so amazing.

  • @georgesos
    @georgesos 6 месяцев назад +24

    I read the title and think to myself,this is going to be boring.
    Then I watch the video.
    Wow man! Amazing !

  • @giacomolanza1726
    @giacomolanza1726 5 месяцев назад +1

    Many many thanks for this very nice and exhaustive video!
    The "expansion to the left" shown by you has also another possible interpretation, sliding the rows to make it look like an infinite square matrix.
    Then Pascal's original triangle is equal to the exponential of a particular "subdiagonal" matrix, i.e. a matrix having all zeroes on the main diagonal and {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} on the parallel diagonal situated one place lower.
    If we expand this diagonal also above with negative values, and exponentiate, we get Pascal's triangle expanded to the upper left.

  • @escthedark3709
    @escthedark3709 6 месяцев назад +6

    The rotated triangle thing was quite the plot twist!

  • @cartermachiavelli
    @cartermachiavelli 4 месяца назад

    Great video, I learned a lot through this! Another very interesting thing I see in this expansion is the fact that it simultaneously also displays the binomial expansion for the term (1 - x)^n, so for example
    n=2: 1 - 2x + x²
    n=3: 1 - 3x + 3x² + x³
    n=4: 1 - 4x + 6x² - 4x³ + x⁴
    and so on.

  • @JaniLaaksonen91
    @JaniLaaksonen91 5 месяцев назад

    Truly interesting! Also you speak so naturally, clearly and fluently. I'm just terrified of people who write x as an inverted c and c put together.

  • @MrCoreyTexas
    @MrCoreyTexas 5 месяцев назад

    Caught your video in recommended, didn't watch it in full but skipped ahead to 20:37 to get a sneak preview, I never thought about this, very interesting.

  • @onetruetroy
    @onetruetroy 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent video! This is the first time I’ve seen the rest of Pascal’s Triangle explored. I got out the popcorn when I saw the 1, -2, 3, -4, …. appear. This gon b gud. 🤓

  • @nickfaire
    @nickfaire 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to note that this generalization preserves in a certain way the property that the sum of the terms of the n'th row is 2^n (starting to count from the 0'th row). If you consider Ramanujan sumation, then this property actually holds for negative n.

  • @kaftan1776
    @kaftan1776 6 месяцев назад +6

    I was led to what lied above the Pascal Triangle by extending the Fibonacci number backwards from zero. (Be aware that the Fibonacci numbers are also obtained from Pascal Triangle) and then filled the missing upper layers. It turned out that if the bottom triangle is the expansion of (x+1) to the powers of n then the upper parts are the expansion of (x-1) to the powers of n. And also whereas the sum of the coefficients of every row is 2 to the power of n, those of the above sum to zero.

  • @antonfahlgren2723
    @antonfahlgren2723 5 месяцев назад

    Incredibly clean presentation! I love your style.

  • @Null_Simplex
    @Null_Simplex 6 месяцев назад +6

    Very cool. Pascal’s simplices are some of my favorite patterns in mathematics, so this is very cool. It also gives an argument for why the sum 1-1+1-1+… “converges” to 1/2 in some contexts.

    • @harshlalwani4353
      @harshlalwani4353 6 месяцев назад +1

      How does it do that? Can u elaborate about the -1/2

    • @timbeaton5045
      @timbeaton5045 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@harshlalwani4353 Isn't this the Cesàro summation for the Grandi sequence?

    • @CelestinWIDMER
      @CelestinWIDMER 6 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@harshlalwani4353 the sum of each line in Pascals triangle is a power of two, for example 1+2+1=4=2² or 1+3+3+1=8=2³ if we take the -1th line, which is 1-1+1-1+1-1+... it should sum up to 2^(-1) = 1/2
      and it actually kinda does

    • @Null_Simplex
      @Null_Simplex 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@harshlalwani4353 what CelestinWIDMER said.

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 6 месяцев назад

      @@harshlalwani4353 This is an interesting example of generalization, interesting by the fact isn't 'settled' yet.
      You know, math expands when operations are generalized. For example, take substraction. With natural numbers, some substractions are impossible. You can't calculate 3-4 (with natural numbers), unless you generalize substraction, and that's accomplished by introducing negative numbers and defining substraction as a type of addition that uses those negative numbers. Same with division: with integers, you can't divide 5/2, but you can if you introduce rational numbers.
      So the pattern is: you find something you can't do with the current axioms you have, so you expand those axioms so you now can, and probably you are also redefining what the operation means.
      With infinite sums, you have the same issue. Convergent sums can be solved, but divergent sums can't. So, is there a way to generalize maths so we can redefine the operation of sum so we can solve them? The answer is 'yes', there are several ways to redefine the sum operation so you can assign a numerical value to a divergent series. The problem here is that there is more than one way to accomplish that, and another problem is that the redifinition of the 'sum' concept makes him a lot less intuitive.
      The issue would be resolved, probably, when real life applications appear (and they always do, but sometimes it can take a couple of hundreds of years) and they use one specific way of making the sum.

  • @kagof2354
    @kagof2354 5 месяцев назад

    Been a long time since my math undergrad, and this just reminded me why I fell in love with it. What a cool generalization

  • @tropicaltrevor
    @tropicaltrevor 5 месяцев назад

    I am interested but not well educated in math and this sort of succinct explanation of an interesting (to me emergent) phenomenon always blows my mind. I don't know whether I'd use any takeaways in life but am pleasantly surprised by youtube suggesting this :)

  • @adamb1207
    @adamb1207 4 месяца назад

    This is insane! I was bored through a couple math classes, so my paper was filled with this exact idea a couple months ago!

  • @Faroshkas
    @Faroshkas 6 месяцев назад +2

    What a coincidence! I thought of this like a week ago haha. Very nice explanation!!

  • @PopeVancis
    @PopeVancis 6 месяцев назад +29

    Legend says that way off in the distance to the right, there is another triangle. The whole thing is a triforce, if you will. The bottom left, the original, is the triforce of power. The top, above the first, is wisdom. The third is only legendary, yet hypothetically possible with the oddity that is named infinity. Its name? Courage.

    • @voliol8070
      @voliol8070 6 месяцев назад +9

      This is an piece of poetry of course, but note if you take pascal's triangle (well, the normal positive parts), you actually get a sierpinski triangle. A mega-triforce, if you will.

    • @neosharkey7401
      @neosharkey7401 6 месяцев назад

      Woah math lore just went off the charts.

    • @PopeVancis
      @PopeVancis 6 месяцев назад +2

      @voliol8070 Yes, though it should be specified, that is the odd numbers.

  • @circuitusmr8877
    @circuitusmr8877 6 месяцев назад +8

    うわっすっごいな。目から鱗でした。

  • @jesusg.h.2070
    @jesusg.h.2070 6 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't expect this video to be this interesting

  • @jansagichnicht3500
    @jansagichnicht3500 4 месяца назад

    Never had this question. But very interesting to see. Thanks a lot!

  • @ZannerIn
    @ZannerIn 5 месяцев назад

    Math is so beautiful. Somethimes I wish I had studied Math in university. But then again, I can just enjoy the beauty of Math at home through videos like this.

  • @roirtur2186
    @roirtur2186 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't know why I'm here and why I watched it all, but thanks, i loved it

  • @usptact
    @usptact 6 месяцев назад +1

    Never thought about what's above the Pascal's triangle! Cool!

  • @thatjakub
    @thatjakub 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for showing this! ❤

  • @jensraab2902
    @jensraab2902 2 месяца назад

    Apparently, the Almighty Algorithm© has decided to finally show your videos to me!
    The first one was your recent _Why Is This Almost An Integer_ which I found fascinating as it was talking about this mathematical quirk I'd never heard about.
    This one, too, was fascinating. I think I have casually thought about these areas outside of the classical triangle but never followed up on it. It's astounding what turns up exploring Pascal's Triangle which, in the way we know it, is a rather simple, almost trivial, concept.
    Now, I'm curious about your other videos!

  • @TheFrewah
    @TheFrewah 6 месяцев назад +11

    Veritasium also made a video about this and it was about Newton and π. He figured out that you could squeeze fractional values between the integers. He had invented integrals and he could combine these ideas to calculate π as an infinite sum

  • @DrKmack
    @DrKmack 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wish my math classes had been this fascinating!

  • @GlortMusic
    @GlortMusic 5 месяцев назад

    I'm simply mindblown. Great video man!

  • @elitettelbach4247
    @elitettelbach4247 5 месяцев назад

    This was very fascinating! Great video!

  • @Dosor72
    @Dosor72 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is eye opening, I thought that Pascal's Triangle *MUST* be symmetrical

  • @r.w.emersonii3501
    @r.w.emersonii3501 6 месяцев назад +4

    What if we start with a = b = 0.5?
    I started to explore this myself. All of the numbers in the row have a fixed power of two as the denominator, e.g., 1/2 for row -1, 1/4 for row -2, etc.. But each numerator row is a series of numbers I have not seen before:
    Each series is symmetrical, extending to infinity in both directions. Looking only at the right side, I see:
    Row 0: 1 0 0 0 0 ...
    Row -1: 1 -1 1 -1 ...
    Row -2: 1 -3 5 -6 ...
    Row -3: 1 -7 17 -29 ...
    Row -4: 1 -15 49 -107 ...
    What are these numbers? They are derived from b = 2*c-a, where c is the number below and to the right of a
    we can simplify things by turning the isosceles triangle into a right triangle:
    1
    1 1
    1 2 1
    1 3 3 1
    ...

    • @DerAusdauersportler
      @DerAusdauersportler 6 месяцев назад +2

      Watch the video, again! Especially the last few minutes where it exactly covers this case.

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 6 месяцев назад +4

      Feels like a and b could canonically have imaginary parts of +-sqrt(3)/2i if we're considering the imaginary plane.

    • @ChristopheSmet123321
      @ChristopheSmet123321 5 месяцев назад

      Your -6 on row -2 should be -7 (leading to different values in the next rows as well).
      The pattern is clearer in the diagonals: focus on the top right part, consider the diagonal going to top right, again omitting the powers of 2 in the denominator.
      1,1,1,1,1,1...
      1,3,7,15,31,63...
      1,5,17,49,129,321...
      1,7,31,111,351...
      First diagonal: 1
      Second diagonal: 2^n - 1
      Third diagonal: (n-1)2^n + 1
      Fourth diagonal: (n²+n+2)2^n - 1
      Fifth diagonal: (n³/3+n²+8n/3)2^n + 1
      So the pattern seems to be alternating +1 and -1, added to 2^n times a polynomial in n.
      More interestingly, they are the coefficients of the series expansion of:
      1/(1-x) = 1 + x + x² + ... (first diagonal)
      1/((1-x)(1-2x)) = 1 + 3x + 7x² + 15x³ + ... (second diagonal)
      1/((1-x)(1-2x)²) = 1 + 5x + 17x² + 49x³ + ... (third diagonal)
      1/((1-x)(1-2x)³) = 1 + 7x + 31x² + 111x³ + ... (fourth diagonal)
      and so on.
      If you don't know yet, oeis.org is a great tool to recognize this kind of sequences.

  • @MarcinSzyniszewski
    @MarcinSzyniszewski 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool, thanks for sharing this!

  • @CaedmonOS
    @CaedmonOS 5 месяцев назад

    Wow, that is extremely cool and absolutely not what I expected.

  • @sushantkhanal_1476
    @sushantkhanal_1476 5 месяцев назад

    I can't believe this, it's amazing how math can always shock you with new things with just simple things

  • @jounik
    @jounik 6 месяцев назад +2

    That's a very beautiful result.

  • @domatherton7726
    @domatherton7726 5 месяцев назад +1

    22:53 I think that’s a brilliant maths quote: ‘bearing in mind that this isn’t actually going to be valid for any values’ but we’ll just keep going anyway cus it’s interesting!

  • @PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds
    @PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds 5 месяцев назад

    fantastically fascinating! a mathematical masterpiece!

  • @BooleanDisorder
    @BooleanDisorder 5 месяцев назад

    Handsome guy with interesting smart content! Subbed! 😂

  • @timothymattnew
    @timothymattnew 5 месяцев назад +2

    Question: can we fill in-between the lines too? As in, can we think of a natural way to fill, say, the 1/2-th line?

  • @redsgxd
    @redsgxd 5 месяцев назад +7

    Whats interesting is that if you add up all the numbers in the nth row in Pascal's Triangle, you get 2^n
    For example, 1 3 3 1 is the third row and 1+3+3+1 = 2^3 = 8.
    But at the -1st row at 4:18, you get zeros on the left and 1-1+1-1+... on the right, which is Grandi's series which "evaluates" to 1/2, which is 2^-1, and I can assume that the other negative rows "evaluate" to 2^n as well.

    • @thecool_dromedarycamel
      @thecool_dromedarycamel 5 месяцев назад

      Also when you look at the row as a number, it writes out to be 11^n. For example, the 2nd row (1 2 1) is 11^2 which is 121

  • @nathanix1012
    @nathanix1012 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome! Kp it up with these cool math videos!❤❤❤

  • @srinivaschillara4023
    @srinivaschillara4023 6 месяцев назад

    superb! Have to reurn to absorb the points made during the last section (regarding a and b). Many thanks,

  • @SanderBessels
    @SanderBessels 6 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful idea! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @ChrisStavros
    @ChrisStavros 5 месяцев назад

    I remember extending the Pascal triangle upwards on a whim in high school math, but I did not at all understand that the numbers (after arbitrarily going with 0 1 though I don't remember which direction I went in) correspond to these coefficients. It's really very beautiful.

  • @RalphDratman
    @RalphDratman 6 месяцев назад +1

    That is wonderful!
    Is that original with you?
    Whether it is or not, you've made a video that tickles my math brain in a lovely way,
    Thank you very very.
    This is also a cellular automaton.
    Have you tried complex numbers for a and b?

  • @Patashu
    @Patashu 5 месяцев назад

    I always wondered this and it's a super interesting result

  • @ultrasubdwarf
    @ultrasubdwarf 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing! Thanks for the wonderful explanation.

  • @Timmmmartin
    @Timmmmartin 5 месяцев назад

    The upper extension of Pascal's can be rewritten very much like the usual triangle, except that the numbers down the left hand side oscillate between 1 and -1, the numbers down the right hand side are all 1 as usual, and all the other numbers within the triangle are found by subtracting the number above to the right from the number above on the left.

  • @tumak1
    @tumak1 6 месяцев назад +3

    Blaise in Maths Heaven is smiling seeing this presentation!

  • @d1tnhauxa0rau
    @d1tnhauxa0rau 6 месяцев назад +6

    this shit crazy, you rotate it 120 degrees either side, resulting in 6 hexants (6 triangles in a hexagon)
    1. the OG Pascal triangle
    2, 4, 6. the Zeroes triangles
    3&5. the As and Bs Pascal triangles, similar to the og triangle except for the alternative change between positive and negative values, depending on if it's seperated by even or odd number of zeroes

  • @Fereydoon.Shekofte
    @Fereydoon.Shekofte 6 месяцев назад

    Very amazing thank you very much Dr Barker 😊🎉

  • @kshou_nish
    @kshou_nish 6 месяцев назад +1

    literally gasped at the rotated triangle reveal

  • @zathrasyes1287
    @zathrasyes1287 6 месяцев назад +4

    Very cool stuff on friday 🙂

  • @sigfridsixsis3255
    @sigfridsixsis3255 5 месяцев назад

    Wow, I had no idea. Truly a new perspective.

  • @vindi167
    @vindi167 Месяц назад +1

    i remember when i was like 10 and super bored i extended it this exact way (without the binomial expansion obviously, i just did it by accident)
    i thought of it like a rotated, half negated version of it. i also thought it was kinda like being zoomed infinitely into the Sierpinski triangle (i liked fractals back then)

  • @Stibiumowl-oder-kurz-Stibi
    @Stibiumowl-oder-kurz-Stibi 5 месяцев назад

    Together with the relationship between Pascals and Sirpinskis triangle, that gives every odd number in the Pascal Triangle a certain color and every even number another certain color, resulting in a Sirpinski-Triangle-Looking-Pattern, this expansion to "what lies above" gives the Sirpinski a somewhat zero-th iteration or just an miror image pattern.
    But in general, its cool, Pascals Triangle is 1 of my favorite math topics and now thanks for making it into an Hourglass. So if above Pascal triangle is just a fliped version of the triangle, its more like Pascals Hourglass. Or a rather distorted Hourglass as there are now infinite nonzero values to the right. Proof is 15:04 for the Hourglass. And as 18:49 says, the uper part of the Hourglass is bent to the side coresponding to if |x|>1 or |x|1 or |x|1 or |x|

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 Месяц назад +1

    Well he used for the rotated Pascal triangle the binomial expansion of (1+x)^(-n) = sum from k = 0 to infinity of (-1)^k *((n+k-1) choose k)*x^(k) for |x|

  • @Garfield_Minecraft
    @Garfield_Minecraft 3 месяца назад +1

    the real question is "why"
    because it's cool

  • @moonwatcher2001
    @moonwatcher2001 6 месяцев назад

    Really interesting and amenelly told, thanks!

  • @heartache5742
    @heartache5742 3 месяца назад

    The coefficients a and b can be chosen to make the two series converge around an arbitrary point, making this a recipe for a laurent series expansion of the expression

  • @asmithgames5926
    @asmithgames5926 6 месяцев назад

    Very cool!
    I wonder about deferent triangles one might make. I discovered in 5th grade that the difference of the power series for the N-th power eventually yields N! after N iterations.

  • @mattbuck4950
    @mattbuck4950 4 месяца назад +1

    The case of |x| < 1 and |x| > 1 are both handled here, but what about |x| = 1?

  • @sorenriis1162
    @sorenriis1162 6 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent! Who originally discovered this?

  • @dropkickedmurphy6463
    @dropkickedmurphy6463 3 месяца назад

    There are a few ways you could expand it based on a rule. Maybe you are interested in the fibonacci sequence expansion going backwards too. Also valid, since that sequence extends in both directions.

  • @4deemi
    @4deemi 4 месяца назад +2

    is that pascal's triangle but for (a-b)² ?

  • @Kelfloppy
    @Kelfloppy 5 месяцев назад

    I never knew what pascals triangle was! Now i know more than i am supposed to know about it 😅

  • @TheDannyAwesome
    @TheDannyAwesome 3 месяца назад

    Just noticed also that the sum of elements in a row of Pascal's triangle is the corresponding power of 2. The row at n = -1, you've established should be defined as alternating 1 and -1, and the power of 2 would be 1/2. The agrees with the value of an L-function under analytic continuation that would correspond to 1-1+1-1+... "=" 1/2

  • @timbeaton5045
    @timbeaton5045 6 месяцев назад +1

    The extension above the "standard: Pascals triangle where the sum of the a and b values do not converge as you show, reminds me of the analytic extension "trick" that is used in, say the Reimann Zeta function.
    I'm sure that is not accurate, but it does seem as if there is an analogous process going on here.

    • @timbeaton5045
      @timbeaton5045 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also, as you suggest there are ways of using any number presumably the reals, as coefficients, do this mean you are generalising Pascals Triangle in a similar way to generalising the factorials, as teh Gamma function?
      Intriguing stuff!

  • @Zeuskabob1
    @Zeuskabob1 5 месяцев назад

    Well I'm amazed. What an incredible finish! A and B as coefficients that satisfy (a+b = 1), but for which X is undefined. Could there be complex values of X where there's a valid solution?

  • @grayfaced2628
    @grayfaced2628 5 месяцев назад

    this is actually very interesting

  • @hermi1-kenobi455
    @hermi1-kenobi455 4 месяца назад

    This is way above my level of understand of maths but I enjoyed it, still.

  • @ДаниилКадетов-и9з
    @ДаниилКадетов-и9з 5 месяцев назад

    To be honest i think the topic could be explored with much more fun. With excel (or google sheets) you can just experiment directly with the number. It's obvious that you can select one number in each row arbitrary (useful to set them at the center or directly around it). I was trying to preserve another property of triangle - symmetry (selected 0.5+0.5 to construct top most 1). Experimenting around it's quickly become obvious that if you set all other rows to zero at the center you'll get a nice pattern of inverted triangle of zeros. And all non-zero values forms two Pascal's triangles with all values divided by 2 and oscillating signs. Diagonals of "1" continues as diagonals of "0.5". And if you change one 0.5 to 1 (or to 0) then you'll lose symmetry but you'll get copy of original triangle on one side an just zeros on the other, which is kinda neat... Why bother with binominals at all?

  • @pseudo_goose
    @pseudo_goose 6 месяцев назад

    The similarity of the two triangles indicates that you could extend the nCr operation to negative values of n, by mapping them to the positive domain.
    Formally, (-n C k) = (-1)^k * ((n - k) C k)
    I vaguely recognize that, might have learned it in combinatorics class! It could be useful for some applications of generating functions

  • @denielalain5701
    @denielalain5701 4 месяца назад

    Hello! Can you define Pascal's triangle as the convergence of the a's, and b's? What other triangles are out there that are also the result of certain a's, and b's convergence other than the Pascal's triangle?

  • @riccardofroz
    @riccardofroz 6 месяцев назад

    Wow I searched for pascarl's trinagle trivia in and out and this is one of the coolest. I was wondering though what if we apply it to other type of binomial functions like: a(1+1/x)^-1+b(1+x)^-1 which would satisfy the property or something weirder maybe.