i cant imagine what these streamers have to go through. if only the swatters experienced being swatted themselves first then im sure they wouldnt do it.
@g1gachad it's sad we live in a world with no empathy unless it's towards an experience they've already had. imagine if we had the sameblogic for r*pists. people shouldn't need to be swatted to understand that it will cause trauma, society needs to stop breeding such braindead heartless idiots
@@julie.or.whatever the swatter will basically call in pretending to be the streamer and claim that they are about to do some sort of horrendous act, normally involving someone being unalived. so the swat team are like super on edge
People who swat others for harmful reasons need to have their location bugged and they need to be taken to jail, nobody should have to deal with this much stress if they have done nothing wrong
the worst part about all of that was that qt turning off ludwig's stream started a whole reddit thread which talked about how qt is a jealous girlfriend because her boyfriend is more successful than her, which is why she turned the stream off etc, when they were literally getting swatted. i can't even imagine going through getting swatted and nearly dying, only to find a reddit thread full of uninformed jerks insulting me the very next morning. (got this info from the full interview)
It really is. Swat team outside only has the information the “pranker” gave them and they’re on edge and the poor streamers are going through hell scared out of their mind that they’re gonna get shot! There’s a hundred different ways someone can get very injured or killed and it needs to be treated like the serious crime it is.
treating it as attempted murder will disillusion the people and admit publicly to everyone about what the whole law enforcement system is, a tool for state sanctioned violence against it's citizens
Idk whats worse, the fact that being swat is nearly a death sentence due to how the police, swat etc just always have their finger on the trigger. Or how easy it is to end up in the same situation over and over despite them already nearly killing you previous times in the exact same situation.
The worst part is that they (the LAPD) made an agreement that whenever they get a call for this house they would literally call Ludwig to verify anything before they show up. But they just never do it.
You would think by the 3rd time they would get their heads outta their butts and actually help these people but nope, just power tripping unfortunately
@@niconova25 probably cause cops and feds enjoy this type of stuff. They (most of them) don’t care what the circumstances are, they just want to feel the adrenaline rush of being in power over a situation like this. If they get swatted again, I would expect it to be the exact same situation all over again.
I would honestly put in bullet proof windows and reinforce the door. Maybe put in an intercom system to talk to the police without walking outside in order to state that it was a false call. Or hire security to watch the premises and communicate with the police.
I don’t blame them, I don’t know why people on social media feel so entitled to others, I would be so scared to step out of my house in a situation like that, they could just fire on you.
the weirdest part about all of this is that making a false police report is actually a crime, at least in the U.S (pretty sure it's a felony or its up there close to one), but for some reason no one actually gets in trouble for it. like wtf is the point in it being illegal if the police are just gonna let people get away with it anyway?
They don't get away with it its just not local to the streamer because you can call from anywhere and if it isn't local than it falls in the jurisdiction of wherever the call originated from. A lot of the time they are traced and charged but it never makes the news.
Yeah it's people who feel the need to harm others to push away their own insecurities. They're too cowardly to do it in real life, because then there are consequences. Internet anonymity makes it so that they can just do awful stuff and not face any consequences
@@joeycampbell940 thats so a shifty way to think, if they think is that easy why they don't try it? For them all what it takes is to sit with the camera on
@@joeycampbell940well it's a pretty weak stand. How I understood that is that these swatters in question see content creators just for their wealth and by that determine it's okay to harass them
People have DIED from this “prank” and QT is legit talking about her trauma from it and people just think it’s still funny to put streamers life in danger because they are able to do something that the one who called the swat can’t. It’s all jealousy and stupidity and I feel bad for streamers that have to deal with that stuff
@@finchdeluxe the swat team have real guns with ammunition in them. One wrong move and you can get shot in the head just because the swat team will feel like you were a threat.
@@finchdeluxe To further clarify, swatting happens in the first place because someone calls the cops and says there's a shooting that's occurring or is about to occur at the household. So they come in expecting a dangerous situation. In this clip, QT mentions she walked by a window and the LAPD went crazy. It's because they think a shooter may be looking out the window to take a shot.
@@mossbogger8366 Well let's be honest why is this whole swat thing actually existing. And why the fuck do you do it so often. Like it's a major event in other countries if some type of swat happens. Outside the US every one says the US is a failed state, especially because you guys need this for some reason
@@mossbogger8366 funny how your wrong my friend swatted 3 streamers before getting cought and all he got told was "it's not cool" ain't no felony or even close to a life sentence goofy unless someone dies nothing happens if someone dies it's 5 years for manslaughter check your stuff
@@d1m3z.sportz didnt say you would said you can, and it is a felony if it's over state lines. also welcome to the fbi watch list, im sure they will be interested to hear about someone with a friend who reports false crimes is on the internet downplaying the severity of reporting false crimes
@@mossbogger8366watch list😂 I would be on it for more than just that reason and they don't give a FUCK about swatters or they would do something and they sure as FUCK don't care about som boring ass streamer on camera bathing in there own sweat all day
People do not understand, those people do not view it as a "funny prank" they view it as it is; A way to traumatize and punish creators. It is always on purpose.
Yeah, they’re not just doing it because they find it funny. They’re angry that streamers get to just sit at home all the time and get rich off of not really doing anything, so they decide that they want to attack them.
Lol nah theres some sickos out there thats think ppl getting swatted and possibly dying and making ppl fearful is funny and really good entertainment, they know its real they know its traumatic and thats what they like about it, and its fucked up plus the hater/jealous assholes
Alas, no group that does 'x' thing is ever a monolith. It is both those reasons, and more. People do it because they think it's funny; people do it because they're offended by the streamer; people do it just to cause terror; people do it because they're angry the can't have what they have; people do it because it gets the attention of the streamer for free... ...And so many more reasons. All can and have happened. At some point, I'm willing to bet, some people have done it because they legitimately consider it to be a tradition.
unfortunately when she describes “it’s not a silly prank it’s ruining people’s lives” that’s exactly what they want to do lol it’s not fans doing it it’s psychos
people definitely dont think its a “funny prank” the only reason they do it is because they WANT to put peoples lives in danger and makes them feel sorta powerful
On Ludwig’s podcast, The Yard, one of the hosts there (Slime) talks about his experience being swatted at that location too. He talks about how it’s very easy to get killed in these due to how conflicting the information is. It’s very pressuring when you’re being held at gun point too with a damn shotgun and a super bright light.
Yeah, I learned recently in cop videos cops are TRAINED to yell out certain commands, so that if the footage ever does get released, if the footage is blurry enough, cops have denability to trick the public into believing the cop was being reasonable and the victim was being uncooperative. This information broke every ounce of seeing "BoTH siDeS" of the argument I ever had.
I don’t think people understand that all it takes is one bad officer having a terrible day and *poof* no more QT or Lud. And if they do understand, then they should be in jail.
@@JaceFaller swatting should be assault with a deadly weapon (basically attempt murder but you don't have to prove intent, with steeper punishment guidelines) and minimum 10 years.
The fact that she said "sometimes it's the SAME cops" just shows that the lapd are just... that bad.. if you had false calls about the SAME LOCATION before yet you're still going back to it as if it was real is traumatizing to the homeowners...
Because you have to respond to a police call that seems genuine, otherwise it may have been a genuine crime that goes unpunished (and often, really heinous crimes are said)
They have to respond to every single call the same exact way, in case it's real, in case it's an actual situation. So I won't blame the cops cause if they don't respond, they would get fired. Blame the people who call
I’m sorry, what if they actually needed emergency services? The repurcussions of not responding are WAY higher. They’re both terrible occurances, but dont blame the cops for doing their fing job
Swatting is basically attempted manslaughter and should be charged as such. If the call comes from an international source then interpol should be involved. If nothing is done about Swatting then we should start swatting politicians until they take it seriously.
“Attempted manslaughter” is a bit of an oxymoron to be fair, they should call it what it is, straight up attempted murder. Every single one of those people should be found and prosecuted, I can’t remember ever hearing of a single swatter who actually has been
@@opiummuffins It shouldn't be hard: Trace the phone call back. Either via phone number, email, or location by phone call triangulation. Boom, you found your guy.
it's weird how this mostly happens in the US. if you make a false emergency call in germamy, they look up to whom the phone number that called is registered to and send either a fine or even file criminal charges for abuse of emergency services. depending on the severity of the case.
Yeah it's just so weird to me that this could actually happen as often as it does. It's also weird how it actually keeps working with (what I know) zero repercussions. This could basically never happen in Sweden like the way it does in the US. I get that the scope is much bigger and there's a ton of differences in law and culture but still. Really wild
@@inejunta6569 someone watching the stream calls the police in whatever city the streamer is in and says the streamer is planning on murdering people or has done so or is doing a shooting or something and the swat team has to treat it like they really are because that’s all the info they have
@@Kmp.7 fr. Yeah, I think it's amazing someone can do that without getting consequences. I get that they don't want people to stop calling in because they are scared it's not serious enough. But that is BS
The US is wild. Germany is usually on top of it with false emergency calls, making sure that the person thay makes a false call is fined or something, alongside other countries. As someone who lives in the US, this happens a lot
Because of this "prank" swatting victims are put on a criminal watch list. Sometimes their devices are even bugged to make sure they don't cause trouble. Sometimes they face actual jail time, all because someone decided to swat the streamers. Sometimes swatting turns fatal and neither the trolls nor the cops face punishment for ruining lives
@Gorillala 78 it depends on each individual situation. but cops kill unnecessarily all the time and go unpunished and its juvenile to pretend otherwise.
@@execuwutie_YT again, that's blowing it out of proportion. During swats, there can be extenuating situations like the taking of a hostage or just people being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There's a reason that the concept of innocent casualties is a thing. And sometimes you can't save them. Swat exists to save who they can, not everyone, because that idea is self destructive and borderline impossible
@Gorillala 78 because you yanks love shooting first and asking questions later and definitely should be held accountable for it, people have been swatted by armed police in the UK and yet no one has been shot, let alone killed.
Of course it is, but you think that they'll now go out of their way to find out who the anonymous report came from? Nah. Swatting isn't even a thing outside the US.
@@KraljHD the irony is that its often people from other countries that are calling in the swatting , because they are insulated by incompetent or non existence law enforcement in their craphole countries
@@yaya5tim there are no "europe" laws. Every country does things their own way. In my country if you call the emergency lines as a prank and they find you, you will be held responsible
@@KraljHD Our emergency services can very easily verify where you're calling from. Even if using a computer or a "hidden" line. America just seems to be incompetent, yet again.
@@Me-ui1zy @korinnab.2318 streaming, youtube, and swatting is not a new thing, especially in LA. content creators give the police their numbers and are supposed to be contacted to prevent this exact situation.
@@LiminalLexthat's like saying not all men are bad lmfao as if people don't know already . The point is ENOUGH of them are bad and all it takes is one of them to kill you.
honestly I feel so damn bad for qt. on one hand, she has to deal with weirdos online making shit up about her because she's a woman in the gaming community, dealing with people just referring to her as "Ludwig's gf" as if she's not even her own person, and then to top all that shit off, she has to deal with the PTSD of getting swatted multiple times? fucking hell, man.
right like when she cannot there not coming and suddenly when she finally sleeps they just come in? like it’s feel like this is some purpose trying not let her sleep in peace
i watched a streamer get swatted, like i saw the cops come in. she only had like 200 subs, its crazy that this can happen even to very small creators. she has trauma from it, she only talked about it like twice. Only sociopaths do this
reporting swat cannot be anonymous any more. there has to be a consequence, either a reward for actual correct information or a punishment for intentionally false reports.
Everyone is talking about how wrong it is to swat someone (which of course) but how is no one addressing how insane it is that they show up and are immediately ready to commit murder, no questions asked or assessment of the situation, just straight to violence and it's your responsibility as the swatting victim to calm them down and convince them not to shoot, as if the main goal shouldn't be to arrest and ask questions first before escalating a situation.
Thank you like wtf. They should only consider firing until they have confirmation that you are armed. Or even better don't shoot until shot at. This makes me realise that movie portrayals of police are REALLY inaccurate
@@chris1549 the called an said there is bomb threat with Hostages or that they are building a bomb Something Like that If i remember correctly she said that in the full Interview Sry for the bad english
@@Hoelli that's even MORE reason to take a non aggressive approach. If police come in guns a blazing and someone has hostages they're probably gonna leverage the fsct that they have hostages and say "hey, I'm gonna kill this poor guy who has a wife and children if you try anything. You wouldn’t want this poor innocent person to get killed because you're trigger happy would you?". Then again, the justice system is so obviously broken in most countries I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot without regard for civilians. Also your English was alright, no need to worry.
Cut out the part that after she turned off the stream, there was a snark thread about her calling her all sorts of awful names and accusations about her being jealous and turning off the stream purposely to sabotage him. Some people are absolutely disgusting.
I still can't understand how police show up to a home with an entire swat team of police, guns drawn, based off a random call. Then show up again to the same house after the first incident was false. American police are mind boggling
what if they have to call in an actual emergency? can guarantee you any other country would do the same. it's too much of a risk to not go-- better to go and find nothing than to not go and let someone get killed
It's genuinely crazy. You've been there before, if you actually cared about serving and protecting the people you would've got the streamer's name and simply checked their stream to see if the swat call is true. But cops just want an excuse to bully people
@@identity__thief Because people are not who they present themselves to be. A murderer or psychopath can be among anyone, even twitch streamers. Why tf would they not take that seriously? That’s ridiculous for you to say, and it’s pretty clear you know nothing about criminology. I’m so glad none of you work in police departments, this country would be dangerously unsafe if that was the case.
That's still traumatic cuz streamers know they're doxxed, i saw it happen to a steamer i was watching live and delivery guy wasn't even paid so you also can fuck them up financially
Dude, when are they finally gonna put prank callers like that in federal prison? Even if it's just for a week, scare the living hell out of them to never do shit like that again. I can guarantee it's the same bunch of assholes every time, so just put them away for a while?
When we start hiring mentally stable people to be police and when we start paying cops a livable wage. They dont care generally speaking, but they surely dont make enough to start caring either.
I was swatted by a really close friend and it was such a horrible thing to have to go through, the cops were understanding afterwards and weren't rude to us but it was so scary.
@@lucamara6424 oh yeah she is gone from my life, wouldnt even apologize to me. 12 years of friendship lost that night. She got in no trouble by the law either, I could press civil charges but it wasnt worth the stress for us, losing my other half was enough for me.
I listened to a streamer talk with a swatter at one point. The issue with these people is that they genuinely find what they’re doing funny. Actual words were “you thought you were going to die, that’s funny as fuck.” In the most serious and relaxed tone.
Things like this are just one of the reasons so many youtubers/streamers go to great lengths to stay anonymous. I don't blame them. This would be terrifying. I'm not even 100% sure how swatting works. Do antis/trolls just call in and give a false report and the officers immediately go into action without checking anything? How serious would that reported threat have to be? And they keep going even though those same people have been swatted for nothing multiple times before? This is insane.
I've heard interviews before from people who have experienced it and then learned more about it by talking to the police or even the swatters. In certain communities where swatting is fairly common, they will have certain keywords they use to make the police act faster and to be as on guard and violent as possible, they'll say things like "I have a weapon and I'm not afraid to shoot police" I've heard a call recording of a swatting and the person was acting like they were crazy and they were sobbing while on the phone, at the same time as they were threatening to shoot everyone in the house, any police that approached then themselves. Sometimes it's "I just shot x person, I'm calling to turn myself in" then they pretend to be overwhelmed by guilt and go crazy and start threating to shoot themselves and anyone who approches. They have no limits to what they come up with. it's some crazy shit
You know it is quite ridiculous that you can call the police on anyone and they will just break into your house and hold a gun in your face without any questions asked. Only in America.
@@sadmo5236honestly thats what im wondering too. Where I live a celebrity kept getting reported to the police for no reason (my country doesnt have swatting exactly), and they flagged the adress so the cops knew its very likely this was a prank call and traced the perpetrators the next time they called. They only needed one to make an example of and then it suddenly stopped being an issue. How do swat teams show up ready to murder with little to no context or proof? How is it legal?
They dont *just* do that, swat prankers call the emergency services with false information about terrorism or attempted homicide or something serious like that. The police has every reason to act fierce to a serious threat like that, even when it's a prank call by some virgin douchebag cos the police dont know. In another situation that might be an actual call and if the police doesnt act like that, people might actually die because the police were too late or unprepared for that terrorist threat. Now technically swat prankers commit a few felonies by making those false claims, but those laws hardly ever get enforced, so..
@@D_Quinn That is the problem, these calls may not be anonymous. It only encourages this behavior that you practically can't enforce the punishment for such an offense. I understand the officers who are sent into action, they have to believe they are facing a lethal threat. Who I critizise are the people in charge, who appeareantly don't do anything to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Not only is it a major violation of civil rights, but also a massive waste of time for a SWAT team who surely have more important matters to attend to.
To be fair, i honestly dont even think some of them think its just a harmless prank. Like, yeah. Im willing to bet most dont realize how serious and problematic it is. But i gstuntee a not-insignificant number of people are fully aware and do it BECAUSE of that.
wat i dont understand if this was done multiply times to her and its even the same cops that have been there why the cops keep going so aggro in there...
Depends on the county and district here in America, but SWAT is programmed to be aggressive when it _is_ a bad situation they’re actually used for, not this bs. The chance of someone holding people hostage and acting aggressive to those specialized cops exists and can be at random but they have to realize this is a hoax and definitely illegal for someone on the internet who does this and still do
Swatting people needs to be a felony. Punishable by fines equal to the cost of deploying the swat response, restitution to the person or persons victimized, and a year in jail
Swatting is a felony federally. It's punishable by up to a five year jail term. If injury occurs during the incident, up to 20. If death occurs, up to life. BUT. They're in Cali. It's only a misdemeanor there, punishable by up to three years if the incident results in death. And Cali is notorious for not prosecuting misdemeanor crimes. My state cracked down on this hard in 2015 after someone swatted an ex in my town. Fines up to $150,000 and prison 5-10 years.
That's dumb. Someone reporting r*pe like: "I'm getting r*ped rn, please send the police to Elmstreet No.1. *gets cut of*" or "Please send the police there is a active shooter, but id rather stay anonymous.." and you want them to just not send the cops?
@@mxewris2355 where i live its pretty much mandatory to identify yourself. it does take like 3 seconds to say your fucking god damn name. also here they track your phone pretty much instant.
So, a school I go to was swatted recently. I'm gonna tell you all exactly how it went and the results: It was a normal morning when suddenly the lockdown lights and alert began playing in the school, forcing all students into a code red. Students outside the school were running away and backing off, while students inside were scrambling. I, thankfully, was outside when this happened, and was stopped by peers yelling at me to get my attention, then telling me about the code red. Even then, police were everywhere along with helicopters. Everyone made it out safely, but it was still very traumatizing for everyone inside and out. SWAT teams in the building had guns ready in their hands as they entered classrooms and hallways searching for shooters, telling everyone to put their hands up. Meanwhile outside were parents and countless police cars surrounding the perimeter. The reason people who swat streamers can likely get away with this is because if they're smart they have many ways to avoid getting caught. This instance, it was a caller from the other side of the country who called 911. I won't list what they did to hide their tracks for the reason of not wanting swat wannabes to use the same method, but know that it was essentially untraceable. They do this as a cruel prank and have ways to get away with it, or at least make tracking them down hell. If you, by any chance, happen to be a person who has swatted someone, you are human scum who should be trampled on, and forgotten by your family, name erased from time. It's not funny, it isn't entertaining. It's scary. It's vile. It's horrible to experience.
Ludwig has been swatted very few times I believe, so it is highly unlikely that the same operator took the call or even the same swat team was on duty.
@@kiiturii then they should just not respond to swat requests if they cant verify your identity. streamers should also be on notice with the police so they dont keep coming to your house.
Thing is alot of swatters aren't from the country so its pretty much a hassle to contact that country's police force and even then that police force would just say "we'll look into it"
This literally just happened at my apartment complex. Came home to 15 cop cars , swat team here , 2 ambulances, fire truck , fire captain. Turned out it was a swatting. Someone called in using voiceover IP to report that they shot someone with an AR 10 and had 2 hostages. Such a waste of resources. But sadly they likely won’t get caught. Everything was blocked off and cops with their assault rifles and more then one sniper were patrolling and stationed at the scene. It was nuts coming home to all that in my complex.
I don't understand why there isn't some kind of conversation with the local police. "Hey we're streamers and there's a thing called swatting. If you get a call in the future call us first"
that's like saying there should be a conversation with the guy who stole all my stuff on which things he cant take from me... uh no buddy, these arent the good guys like in the movies... these are people who will kick your door down and shoot your dog because you made them fill out paper work on a friday night...
@@mossbogger8366 They actually did make an agreement with the local PD. About this very thing. What are you even saying? That wasn't even close to coherent.
One great way to prevent this is to inform your local and county police. Give them your number as well as the account you stream on. Most now have a system in place and will call you as well as look if you're currently streaming if they get a call to your house.
You would think all it would take, is for them to look up the names that they gave them and check the stream. I’m sure it wouldn’t take more than a minute literally. And they could get a much better grasp on the situation like knowing if he’s a big RUclipsr or streamer and knowing that this is a pattern could save a lot of police and swat resources.
You know something: Swatting has been there for a long time. People know exactly what they are doing. They just like to watch people who are happier and more successful than them suffer.
I don‘t understand the satisfaction that swatters get from doing this, because they can‘t actually witness the swatting. To them the only difference is that the streamer now has PTSD and is tired as hell. If somebody needs to exert their dominance in this twisted way, you can bet your arse they don‘t have any other way of doing it, so they just release their pent up rage on the only victims they can abuse.
The fact that the US law enforcement agencies are so insanely militarized is really the bigger issue here... Like, SWATing someone is clearly wrong and evil, but that it can be done at all is a serious indictment of the police as an institution.
Not really, swat teams are specialized units tasked with handling the more dangerous cases. If I have a group of terrorists or murderers or bank robbers holding people up I want a well organized swat team with armor and automatic weapons to take care of the situation instead of 8 or 9 cops with mediocre protection and a handgun/taser
@@rainphantom7024 yeah, except that those cases are few and far between, and that team can be called in after initial response once it's been confirmed that they're working on good Intel. Instead, every local police agency thinks they're made up of 15 John Rambos, and they'll pile in the SWAT van and bust down the door someplace with an anonymous tip. That they're equipped to respond is not the issue, that they're socialized and militarized to the point that they consider a no-knock SWATing of a private residence based on next to nothing... That's a HUGE issue.
CIVIL LAWSUIT FOR EMOTIONAL DAMAGES. they will pay your therapy forever and have to pay so much... the bigger the wins, the bigger effect it would have. It's literally terrorism, but if the law won't recognize that, you gotta go in sideways, and emotional and psychological damages are real, and able to be compensated through garnished wages and such against these perpetrators.
I have an idea, maybe SWAT could do a little thing called "due diligence" that every other branch of law enforcement is required to do. That'd save some lives, huh?
Laws get put into place because peoples actions. They will literally never think about stopping the callers until streamers, sponsors, and fans come together and protest against false swatting.
I mean… it’s kind of a mixed bag. Apparently they had something set up where LAPD was supposed to check-in with Ludwig if their home ever got reported for anything. They apparently didn’t. That being said… The “pranker” had to have said some VERY serious shit for them to completely disregard that. I know we wanna say “oh they did this maliciously” cause most people hate police… Genuinely just think they were trying to protect. Heart in the right place, just didn’t have all the info.
what are you talking about... if somebody calls and says I have 10 people hostage in this house and i'm gonna execute them right now, getting there as soon as possible is way more of a priority then checking to make sure its not a streamer... are you even smart enough to be part of society?
I hate how it’s not taken more seriously. Not only do these calls waste resources but it endangers lives. I’m glad the state I live in has laws in place for swatting(I don’t think any streamer live in my state one big case from my state was Dahmer), but they need a revamp since swatting is happening more and more prominent. It’s the people who call that are the problem. They are traceable. When 911 is called we get a gps location of where the call came from (most of the time) or we get a signal of which cell phone tower it pinged on. These people shouldn’t get away with this just because they think no face no case. It’s also sad because it’s protocol for the police to take every call seriously especially when the people making the swat calls claim that there are guns and bombs. They don’t want a situation like the boy who cried wolf which is why they need to take into account that maybe this time it might be true. I believe swatting in my state is a misdemeanor along with having to pay the fines of paying back all the resources that was used for a false call. If sentence and given a forfeiture. Not only criminal court but streamers can counter sue in civil court as well.
Hot take: the people who swat people knowing that there is nothing wrong should face 10% of the time in jail/prison for the crime they called for. For example if they called the police for a double homicide they’d face 10% of the time that somebody who actually committed double homicide would face.
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Something needs to happen to make sure swatting someone is treated as the level of crime that it really is.
I think some states have already passed laws making it a felony
i cant imagine what these streamers have to go through. if only the swatters experienced being swatted themselves first then im sure they wouldnt do it.
@g1gachad it's sad we live in a world with no empathy unless it's towards an experience they've already had. imagine if we had the sameblogic for r*pists. people shouldn't need to be swatted to understand that it will cause trauma, society needs to stop breeding such braindead heartless idiots
@@julie.or.whatever the swatter will basically call in pretending to be the streamer and claim that they are about to do some sort of horrendous act, normally involving someone being unalived. so the swat team are like super on edge
@@julie.or.whatever They have to treat every situation as real or else risk someone’s life if it is real.
People who swat others for harmful reasons need to have their location bugged and they need to be taken to jail, nobody should have to deal with this much stress if they have done nothing wrong
And if they have a job to be arrested during work
Or the government should've spend their money on better security than spending them on other shady shit that they arent telling the public ofc.
@@eol251 yes but I'm not totally sure how that relates to this
@@eol251 that has nothing to do with this issue...
I feel so bad for her😞
the worst part about all of that was that qt turning off ludwig's stream started a whole reddit thread which talked about how qt is a jealous girlfriend because her boyfriend is more successful than her, which is why she turned the stream off etc, when they were literally getting swatted.
i can't even imagine going through getting swatted and nearly dying, only to find a reddit thread full of uninformed jerks insulting me the very next morning.
(got this info from the full interview)
Yeah when she talked about that i got so pissed off
@@Samson16436 me too
That's just normal reddit. No person should go through reddit period.
@@harrasika yep! exactly why i don't use reddit.
@@harrasika Every social media ever tbh. Let's just thank the gods it was reddit which everyone knows is full of shit and not... Ugh, twitter 🤢
They're not thinking "What a funny prank" they're thinking "Dammit, they lived."
swatting should be treated as attempted murder and the perpetrator should be sentenced accordingly.
It really is. Swat team outside only has the information the “pranker” gave them and they’re on edge and the poor streamers are going through hell scared out of their mind that they’re gonna get shot! There’s a hundred different ways someone can get very injured or killed and it needs to be treated like the serious crime it is.
It typically is when they catch the person
@@frogless_ its just such a shame it isnt easy to find them.
treating it as attempted murder will disillusion the people and admit publicly to everyone about what the whole law enforcement system is, a tool for state sanctioned violence against it's citizens
Idk whats worse, the fact that being swat is nearly a death sentence due to how the police, swat etc just always have their finger on the trigger.
Or how easy it is to end up in the same situation over and over despite them already nearly killing you previous times in the exact same situation.
The worst part is that they (the LAPD) made an agreement that whenever they get a call for this house they would literally call Ludwig to verify anything before they show up. But they just never do it.
imagine being alive in 2023 and thinking the LAPD's word is any better than the cartel's or a motorcycle gang. they are thugs. period.
You would think by the 3rd time they would get their heads outta their butts and actually help these people but nope, just power tripping unfortunately
@@niconova25 probably cause cops and feds enjoy this type of stuff. They (most of them) don’t care what the circumstances are, they just want to feel the adrenaline rush of being in power over a situation like this. If they get swatted again, I would expect it to be the exact same situation all over again.
I would honestly put in bullet proof windows and reinforce the door. Maybe put in an intercom system to talk to the police without walking outside in order to state that it was a false call. Or hire security to watch the premises and communicate with the police.
@@youtubestuff683 yea great idea, so then the next time they show up they make sure to bring an entire swat team
I don’t blame them, I don’t know why people on social media feel so entitled to others, I would be so scared to step out of my house in a situation like that, they could just fire on you.
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You shouldn’t blame them it’s pretty common sense (i agree with you)
the weirdest part about all of this is that making a false police report is actually a crime, at least in the U.S (pretty sure it's a felony or its up there close to one), but for some reason no one actually gets in trouble for it.
like wtf is the point in it being illegal if the police are just gonna let people get away with it anyway?
They don't get away with it its just not local to the streamer because you can call from anywhere and if it isn't local than it falls in the jurisdiction of wherever the call originated from. A lot of the time they are traced and charged but it never makes the news.
I read somewhere that the ppl calling did in fact get arrested but idrk if that’s true
Most of the time the people who swat arent in the us thus cant be punished
@@autisticgameandwatch3839 I heard later that these people were traced back and arrested but it happens way to much. This shit is downright evil
Cuz police are lazy
Swatters wasted emergency service's resources that other real victims needed. There should be laws punishing this behaviour.
Wait there aren’t??
Alright there are😅 looked it up
@@7991rellik oh😬 well they really have to fix that then
@Luca Mara Easy fix, after confirming it was a prank call, Break some bones, or at leas swap them back
It's a major felony someone did it and a person lost their life as a result and the person that called got 20 years in prison
Nobody thinks it’s a prank. Everyone knows it’s going to have negative affects that’s why they do it.
Yeah it's people who feel the need to harm others to push away their own insecurities. They're too cowardly to do it in real life, because then there are consequences. Internet anonymity makes it so that they can just do awful stuff and not face any consequences
And it's freaking disgusting
From what most swatters say, they're upset that some people get to sit on their ass all day and make more than the average person will ever see.
@@joeycampbell940 thats so a shifty way to think, if they think is that easy why they don't try it? For them all what it takes is to sit with the camera on
@@joeycampbell940well it's a pretty weak stand. How I understood that is that these swatters in question see content creators just for their wealth and by that determine it's okay to harass them
People have DIED from this “prank” and QT is legit talking about her trauma from it and people just think it’s still funny to put streamers life in danger because they are able to do something that the one who called the swat can’t. It’s all jealousy and stupidity and I feel bad for streamers that have to deal with that stuff
wait how would people die? sorry
@@finchdeluxe angry cops and confused people = high chance of getting shot. It’s always the LAPD so there is that
@@finchdeluxe the swat team have real guns with ammunition in them. One wrong move and you can get shot in the head just because the swat team will feel like you were a threat.
@@acex7496 thanks
@@finchdeluxe To further clarify, swatting happens in the first place because someone calls the cops and says there's a shooting that's occurring or is about to occur at the household. So they come in expecting a dangerous situation. In this clip, QT mentions she walked by a window and the LAPD went crazy. It's because they think a shooter may be looking out the window to take a shot.
You can hear her holding back tears and rage in this clip... Poor lady.
Swatting in the USA should be considered attempted murder.
it's a felony, you can get life in prison for it. problem is the lil gremlins that do it often live in places well outside us legal jurisdiction
@@mossbogger8366 Well let's be honest why is this whole swat thing actually existing. And why the fuck do you do it so often. Like it's a major event in other countries if some type of swat happens.
Outside the US every one says the US is a failed state, especially because you guys need this for some reason
@@mossbogger8366 funny how your wrong my friend swatted 3 streamers before getting cought and all he got told was "it's not cool" ain't no felony or even close to a life sentence goofy unless someone dies nothing happens if someone dies it's 5 years for manslaughter check your stuff
@@d1m3z.sportz didnt say you would said you can, and it is a felony if it's over state lines. also welcome to the fbi watch list, im sure they will be interested to hear about someone with a friend who reports false crimes is on the internet downplaying the severity of reporting false crimes
@@mossbogger8366watch list😂 I would be on it for more than just that reason and they don't give a FUCK about swatters or they would do something and they sure as FUCK don't care about som boring ass streamer on camera bathing in there own sweat all day
People do not understand, those people do not view it as a "funny prank" they view it as it is; A way to traumatize and punish creators. It is always on purpose.
REAL!!!
Yeah, they’re not just doing it because they find it funny. They’re angry that streamers get to just sit at home all the time and get rich off of not really doing anything, so they decide that they want to attack them.
or they think it’s funny until they’re in the courtroom explaining what happened
Lol nah theres some sickos out there thats think ppl getting swatted and possibly dying and making ppl fearful is funny and really good entertainment, they know its real they know its traumatic and thats what they like about it, and its fucked up plus the hater/jealous assholes
Alas, no group that does 'x' thing is ever a monolith. It is both those reasons, and more. People do it because they think it's funny; people do it because they're offended by the streamer; people do it just to cause terror; people do it because they're angry the can't have what they have; people do it because it gets the attention of the streamer for free...
...And so many more reasons. All can and have happened. At some point, I'm willing to bet, some people have done it because they legitimately consider it to be a tradition.
unfortunately when she describes “it’s not a silly prank it’s ruining people’s lives” that’s exactly what they want to do lol it’s not fans doing it it’s psychos
people definitely dont think its a “funny prank” the only reason they do it is because they WANT to put peoples lives in danger and makes them feel sorta powerful
You're under estimating how dumb kids are.
Narcissists basically. What pathetic lives they must have. 😂
@@leash8932There’s both. A lot of people are that stupid as to think this is a funny prank.
It's only this traumatic because American cops are trained more often than not to inadvertently escalate rather than deescalate situations.
On Ludwig’s podcast, The Yard, one of the hosts there (Slime) talks about his experience being swatted at that location too. He talks about how it’s very easy to get killed in these due to how conflicting the information is. It’s very pressuring when you’re being held at gun point too with a damn shotgun and a super bright light.
Yeah, I learned recently in cop videos cops are TRAINED to yell out certain commands, so that if the footage ever does get released, if the footage is blurry enough, cops have denability to trick the public into believing the cop was being reasonable and the victim was being uncooperative.
This information broke every ounce of seeing "BoTH siDeS" of the argument I ever had.
I don’t think people understand that all it takes is one bad officer having a terrible day and *poof* no more QT or Lud. And if they do understand, then they should be in jail.
Nah, jail regardless, just because you don't understand your actions or the consequences of them, doesn't mean there are no consequences
They should go to jail either way
Jail either way, and most people that do that know and might brag or relish in the fact that they had such an impact on their lives
Not jail, Prison and they should go there anyway.
@@originalname610 true, could be considered attempted murder, hell I'd consider it attempted murder
Swatting should be considered attempted murder and anyone caught should be convicted for a minimum 5 year sentence.
Only 5 minimum?! It should be more than just 5 years.
@@JaceFaller swatting should be assault with a deadly weapon (basically attempt murder but you don't have to prove intent, with steeper punishment guidelines) and minimum 10 years.
Should be minimum 50 fucking years imo
Life would be better
Unfortunately that wont happen unless someone big dies from it
Swatting is not a prank
Yep it's just the afterwards excuse "it was just a prank"
Yeah idk how its not considered a crime. Its as bad as stalking if not worse..
@@ox_why It is a crime but I think that they couldn’t arrest one of the swatters because they were in another country or something
@@bapbirb like a false grape accusation
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. You put yourself on the internet and there is consequences
The fact that she said "sometimes it's the SAME cops" just shows that the lapd are just... that bad.. if you had false calls about the SAME LOCATION before yet you're still going back to it as if it was real is traumatizing to the homeowners...
Because you have to respond to a police call that seems genuine, otherwise it may have been a genuine crime that goes unpunished (and often, really heinous crimes are said)
Solid excuse for terribly police work
They have to respond to every single call the same exact way, in case it's real, in case it's an actual situation. So I won't blame the cops cause if they don't respond, they would get fired. Blame the people who call
I’m sorry, what if they actually needed emergency services? The repurcussions of not responding are WAY higher. They’re both terrible occurances, but dont blame the cops for doing their fing job
Ah, grand idea, just give famous people immunity
Swatting is basically attempted manslaughter and should be charged as such. If the call comes from an international source then interpol should be involved. If nothing is done about Swatting then we should start swatting politicians until they take it seriously.
“Attempted manslaughter” is a bit of an oxymoron to be fair, they should call it what it is, straight up attempted murder. Every single one of those people should be found and prosecuted, I can’t remember ever hearing of a single swatter who actually has been
@@opiummuffins It shouldn't be hard: Trace the phone call back. Either via phone number, email, or location by phone call triangulation. Boom, you found your guy.
manslaughter is the wrong word. it would be murder
Shut up swat the streamers!!
I like how this guy thinks.
it's weird how this mostly happens in the US. if you make a false emergency call in germamy, they look up to whom the phone number that called is registered to and send either a fine or even file criminal charges for abuse of emergency services. depending on the severity of the case.
Yeah it's just so weird to me that this could actually happen as often as it does. It's also weird how it actually keeps working with (what I know) zero repercussions. This could basically never happen in Sweden like the way it does in the US. I get that the scope is much bigger and there's a ton of differences in law and culture but still. Really wild
I don't get it and don't have the time or will to look it up. What happened?
@@inejunta6569 someone watching the stream calls the police in whatever city the streamer is in and says the streamer is planning on murdering people or has done so or is doing a shooting or something and the swat team has to treat it like they really are because that’s all the info they have
@@Kmp.7 fr. Yeah, I think it's amazing someone can do that without getting consequences. I get that they don't want people to stop calling in because they are scared it's not serious enough. But that is BS
The US is wild. Germany is usually on top of it with false emergency calls, making sure that the person thay makes a false call is fined or something, alongside other countries. As someone who lives in the US, this happens a lot
Because of this "prank" swatting victims are put on a criminal watch list. Sometimes their devices are even bugged to make sure they don't cause trouble. Sometimes they face actual jail time, all because someone decided to swat the streamers. Sometimes swatting turns fatal and neither the trolls nor the cops face punishment for ruining lives
@Gorillala 78 it depends on each individual situation. but cops kill unnecessarily all the time and go unpunished and its juvenile to pretend otherwise.
@Gorillala 78 so you dont think people are unecessarily killed in swat raids ever?
@@execuwutie_YT When did he say that?
@@execuwutie_YT again, that's blowing it out of proportion. During swats, there can be extenuating situations like the taking of a hostage or just people being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
There's a reason that the concept of innocent casualties is a thing. And sometimes you can't save them. Swat exists to save who they can, not everyone, because that idea is self destructive and borderline impossible
@Gorillala 78 because you yanks love shooting first and asking questions later and definitely should be held accountable for it, people have been swatted by armed police in the UK and yet no one has been shot, let alone killed.
"Hey isn't weird that this is the 3rd time we've been called to this exact same house due to false reporting?.....well okay."
Isn't it ilegal to call in about a false threat? Here in Europe, you get fined and can even end up in prison
Of course it is, but you think that they'll now go out of their way to find out who the anonymous report came from? Nah.
Swatting isn't even a thing outside the US.
@@KraljHD the irony is that its often people from other countries that are calling in the swatting , because they are insulated by incompetent or non existence law enforcement in their craphole countries
Really? Anita told another story, which is very different from yours, and she lives in Europe
@@yaya5tim there are no "europe" laws. Every country does things their own way. In my country if you call the emergency lines as a prank and they find you, you will be held responsible
@@KraljHD Our emergency services can very easily verify where you're calling from. Even if using a computer or a "hidden" line.
America just seems to be incompetent, yet again.
America really do be so American that you can keep calling a SWAT team for free on the same person 3 times in a row with no repercussions 💀💀💀💀💀💀
U go to prison. In the UK they arrest you making jokes tho lol
you'd think the police would realise the 2nd even the 3rd time that it's bs but nope.
@@the-unknown-1 they still have to follow protocol and do their job.
@@the-unknown-1 They have to go, otherwise that is a system that could easily be exploited by people looking to do that.
@@Me-ui1zy @korinnab.2318 streaming, youtube, and swatting is not a new thing, especially in LA. content creators give the police their numbers and are supposed to be contacted to prevent this exact situation.
People seem to forget that a man died from this kind of 'prank'
Not that the pranksters care
@@manolgeorgiev9664exactly they get no repercussions for it so why should they
@@manolgeorgiev9664when the guy died, the called said he didn’t pull the trigger, so he wasn’t guilty
They dont forget, thats exactly what they want
Who died?
and yet some people say "thats what you sign up for when you pit yourself out there"
i doubt anybody signs up for that
thats like the same thing as people saying like "well if you don't wanna get r*ped just dont wear all that slutty clothing" honestly its awful :(
@someminainabasement6875 yeah when people say that I ask them why guys like myself were raped wearing sweatpants and t shirts
Mf that ain’t a prank that’s harassment and at worst attempted murder. Y’all know how trigger happy the cops are in this country.
Tbh not ALL are trigger happy but its most to the point where we gotta be careful
you know what they say, "it's just one bad apple" (which spoils the bunch)
No it BASELINE is attempted murder, the type of call you have to use to get a SWAT response is a situation where they are prepared to kill people.
@@LiminalLexthat's like saying not all men are bad lmfao as if people don't know already . The point is ENOUGH of them are bad and all it takes is one of them to kill you.
@@LiminalLex google 40% cops. the whole bunch is rotten :)
I feel so bad for her. Why did it HAVE to be the one time she felt safe enough to sleep?!
honestly I feel so damn bad for qt. on one hand, she has to deal with weirdos online making shit up about her because she's a woman in the gaming community, dealing with people just referring to her as "Ludwig's gf" as if she's not even her own person, and then to top all that shit off, she has to deal with the PTSD of getting swatted multiple times? fucking hell, man.
right like when she cannot there not coming and suddenly when she finally sleeps they just come in? like it’s feel like this is some purpose trying not let her sleep in peace
i watched a streamer get swatted, like i saw the cops come in. she only had like 200 subs, its crazy that this can happen even to very small creators. she has trauma from it, she only talked about it like twice. Only sociopaths do this
who was it?
This seems more like a psychopathic thing since not all sociopaths go out and do things like this
The scary thing is its not sociopaths. Just people regular people who know they can get away with it.
reporting swat cannot be anonymous any more. there has to be a consequence, either a reward for actual correct information or a punishment for intentionally false reports.
Everyone is talking about how wrong it is to swat someone (which of course) but how is no one addressing how insane it is that they show up and are immediately ready to commit murder, no questions asked or assessment of the situation, just straight to violence and it's your responsibility as the swatting victim to calm them down and convince them not to shoot, as if the main goal shouldn't be to arrest and ask questions first before escalating a situation.
Thank you like wtf. They should only consider firing until they have confirmation that you are armed. Or even better don't shoot until shot at. This makes me realise that movie portrayals of police are REALLY inaccurate
@@chris1549 the called an said there is bomb threat with Hostages or that they are building a bomb Something Like that
If i remember correctly she said that in the full Interview
Sry for the bad english
Some of the same cops, so they know that a hoax is a possibility, and they are still priming for murder
@@Hoelli that's even MORE reason to take a non aggressive approach. If police come in guns a blazing and someone has hostages they're probably gonna leverage the fsct that they have hostages and say "hey, I'm gonna kill this poor guy who has a wife and children if you try anything. You wouldn’t want this poor innocent person to get killed because you're trigger happy would you?". Then again, the justice system is so obviously broken in most countries I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot without regard for civilians. Also your English was alright, no need to worry.
Yeah... the SWAT force is way different than the regular police...
Cut out the part that after she turned off the stream, there was a snark thread about her calling her all sorts of awful names and accusations about her being jealous and turning off the stream purposely to sabotage him. Some people are absolutely disgusting.
I still can't understand how police show up to a home with an entire swat team of police, guns drawn, based off a random call. Then show up again to the same house after the first incident was false. American police are mind boggling
It’s probably a situation like “the boy who cried wolf”
what if they have to call in an actual emergency? can guarantee you any other country would do the same. it's too much of a risk to not go-- better to go and find nothing than to not go and let someone get killed
It's genuinely crazy. You've been there before, if you actually cared about serving and protecting the people you would've got the streamer's name and simply checked their stream to see if the swat call is true. But cops just want an excuse to bully people
@@identity__thief lmao just check their stream. hopefully they can keep up with all the different streaming platforms.
@@identity__thief Because people are not who they present themselves to be. A murderer or psychopath can be among anyone, even twitch streamers. Why tf would they not take that seriously? That’s ridiculous for you to say, and it’s pretty clear you know nothing about criminology. I’m so glad none of you work in police departments, this country would be dangerously unsafe if that was the case.
Why cant we bring back sending people 50 pizzas or something...
That's still traumatic cuz streamers know they're doxxed, i saw it happen to a steamer i was watching live and delivery guy wasn't even paid so you also can fuck them up financially
Dude, when are they finally gonna put prank callers like that in federal prison? Even if it's just for a week, scare the living hell out of them to never do shit like that again. I can guarantee it's the same bunch of assholes every time, so just put them away for a while?
When we start hiring mentally stable people to be police and when we start paying cops a livable wage.
They dont care generally speaking, but they surely dont make enough to start caring either.
It's not a prank. It's a crime.
I was swatted by a really close friend and it was such a horrible thing to have to go through, the cops were understanding afterwards and weren't rude to us but it was so scary.
That’s insane🫢 Please tell me you cut that friend off
Did they get in any legal trouble?
@@lucamara6424 oh yeah she is gone from my life, wouldnt even apologize to me. 12 years of friendship lost that night. She got in no trouble by the law either, I could press civil charges but it wasnt worth the stress for us, losing my other half was enough for me.
It's also crucial to note that people do die from swatting, it's not just the mental trauma but there's a real potential of being shot and killed.
If something goes wrong (which has happened many times) you won't be changing someone's life, you'll be ending it.
It's kinda crazy civilians can call in swat teams to begin with.
They cant, They call the police tell them about some horrible stuff happening RIGHT NOW and then the police decide SWAT is the best option
@@whitepaws60The point of the original comment was that this effectively means that civilians can call in swat teams.
the fact there isn't a bigger awareness about this in law enforcement and it could happen more than once is INSANE
I listened to a streamer talk with a swatter at one point. The issue with these people is that they genuinely find what they’re doing funny.
Actual words were “you thought you were going to die, that’s funny as fuck.” In the most serious and relaxed tone.
Things like this are just one of the reasons so many youtubers/streamers go to great lengths to stay anonymous. I don't blame them. This would be terrifying. I'm not even 100% sure how swatting works. Do antis/trolls just call in and give a false report and the officers immediately go into action without checking anything? How serious would that reported threat have to be? And they keep going even though those same people have been swatted for nothing multiple times before? This is insane.
I've heard interviews before from people who have experienced it and then learned more about it by talking to the police or even the swatters. In certain communities where swatting is fairly common, they will have certain keywords they use to make the police act faster and to be as on guard and violent as possible, they'll say things like "I have a weapon and I'm not afraid to shoot police"
I've heard a call recording of a swatting and the person was acting like they were crazy and they were sobbing while on the phone, at the same time as they were threatening to shoot everyone in the house, any police that approached then themselves. Sometimes it's "I just shot x person, I'm calling to turn myself in" then they pretend to be overwhelmed by guilt and go crazy and start threating to shoot themselves and anyone who approches. They have no limits to what they come up with. it's some crazy shit
@@kiiturii wow that's crazy! Thanks for the info
I’m tired of people calling a literal felony a “prank.” By law they’d go to prison for this.
You know it is quite ridiculous that you can call the police on anyone and they will just break into your house and hold a gun in your face without any questions asked. Only in America.
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I get how it may happen once but multiple times????
@@sadmo5236honestly thats what im wondering too. Where I live a celebrity kept getting reported to the police for no reason (my country doesnt have swatting exactly), and they flagged the adress so the cops knew its very likely this was a prank call and traced the perpetrators the next time they called. They only needed one to make an example of and then it suddenly stopped being an issue. How do swat teams show up ready to murder with little to no context or proof? How is it legal?
They dont *just* do that, swat prankers call the emergency services with false information about terrorism or attempted homicide or something serious like that. The police has every reason to act fierce to a serious threat like that, even when it's a prank call by some virgin douchebag cos the police dont know. In another situation that might be an actual call and if the police doesnt act like that, people might actually die because the police were too late or unprepared for that terrorist threat.
Now technically swat prankers commit a few felonies by making those false claims, but those laws hardly ever get enforced, so..
@@D_Quinn That is the problem, these calls may not be anonymous. It only encourages this behavior that you practically can't enforce the punishment for such an offense. I understand the officers who are sent into action, they have to believe they are facing a lethal threat. Who I critizise are the people in charge, who appeareantly don't do anything to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Not only is it a major violation of civil rights, but also a massive waste of time for a SWAT team who surely have more important matters to attend to.
Swatters should go to prison for attempted murder, because that’s what it is.
People died, it's fucking stupid. they should be able to trace these calls man.
They traced my 988 call to give me trauma, they need to do the same to swatters
@@totalmarh What happened to you?
The internet has made it way too easy for people to just do the most psychotic things and get away with it
I think you mean the telephone?
To be fair, i honestly dont even think some of them think its just a harmless prank. Like, yeah. Im willing to bet most dont realize how serious and problematic it is. But i gstuntee a not-insignificant number of people are fully aware and do it BECAUSE of that.
I don’t think any of them do it as a “prank.” They are hoping to get you killed or traumatized. They know.
wat i dont understand if this was done multiply times to her and its even the same cops that have been there why the cops keep going so aggro in there...
Because cops love to go aggro
cops love to be like that
Depends on the county and district here in America, but SWAT is programmed to be aggressive when it _is_ a bad situation they’re actually used for, not this bs. The chance of someone holding people hostage and acting aggressive to those specialized cops exists and can be at random but they have to realize this is a hoax and definitely illegal for someone on the internet who does this and still do
They don’t care. If they can get away with killing an innocent person THEY WILL DO IT. It’s why they signed up.
It's the nature of how swatting is done and also because of some aggressive info provided by the rando who said to swat
Honestly, if someone gets swatted more than once for no reason, that should tell the cops something
Loll cops aren't trained to think
It would be smart if each phone call that is made for a swatting should be traced back to their location
The stupid thing is they can be traced but they don't bother cause its 'wasting police resources '.
Swatting people needs to be a felony. Punishable by fines equal to the cost of deploying the swat response, restitution to the person or persons victimized, and a year in jail
That sounds entirely reasonable to me.
Swatting is a felony federally. It's punishable by up to a five year jail term. If injury occurs during the incident, up to 20. If death occurs, up to life.
BUT. They're in Cali. It's only a misdemeanor there, punishable by up to three years if the incident results in death. And Cali is notorious for not prosecuting misdemeanor crimes.
My state cracked down on this hard in 2015 after someone swatted an ex in my town. Fines up to $150,000 and prison 5-10 years.
Reasonable
Every single person that has swatted a streamer for no reason deserves to have their kneecaps busted. It's absolutely disgusting that this happens
You should have to identify yourself in order to report serious crimes to 911 tbh
You cant really call anon anymore, it doesnt take a movie-minute to have precise geolocation data on ANY phone
That's dumb. Someone reporting r*pe like: "I'm getting r*ped rn, please send the police to Elmstreet No.1. *gets cut of*" or "Please send the police there is a active shooter, but id rather stay anonymous.." and you want them to just not send the cops?
@@mxewris2355 where i live its pretty much mandatory to identify yourself. it does take like 3 seconds to say your fucking god damn name. also here they track your phone pretty much instant.
So, a school I go to was swatted recently. I'm gonna tell you all exactly how it went and the results:
It was a normal morning when suddenly the lockdown lights and alert began playing in the school, forcing all students into a code red. Students outside the school were running away and backing off, while students inside were scrambling. I, thankfully, was outside when this happened, and was stopped by peers yelling at me to get my attention, then telling me about the code red. Even then, police were everywhere along with helicopters. Everyone made it out safely, but it was still very traumatizing for everyone inside and out. SWAT teams in the building had guns ready in their hands as they entered classrooms and hallways searching for shooters, telling everyone to put their hands up. Meanwhile outside were parents and countless police cars surrounding the perimeter.
The reason people who swat streamers can likely get away with this is because if they're smart they have many ways to avoid getting caught. This instance, it was a caller from the other side of the country who called 911. I won't list what they did to hide their tracks for the reason of not wanting swat wannabes to use the same method, but know that it was essentially untraceable. They do this as a cruel prank and have ways to get away with it, or at least make tracking them down hell.
If you, by any chance, happen to be a person who has swatted someone, you are human scum who should be trampled on, and forgotten by your family, name erased from time. It's not funny, it isn't entertaining. It's scary. It's vile. It's horrible to experience.
You can bet LAPD never pulls this shit on any of the Hollywood celebrities living in LA.
At this point if some of them were the same people coming in the swat they had to have had a lightbulb go off like ah this again
Ludwig has been swatted very few times I believe, so it is highly unlikely that the same operator took the call or even the same swat team was on duty.
Anyone that swats someone like this should face years in federal prison
they do when they're caught. Just hard to catch them if they know how not to be caught
@@kiituriihow do they not are they not Able to teach the person who called?
@@kiiturii then they should just not respond to swat requests if they cant verify your identity. streamers should also be on notice with the police so they dont keep coming to your house.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr they can't just not respond to a threat💀
im glad QT is talking about this
The fact that they dont get jail time for pulling this shit as a "prank" is insane.
they certainly do
For everyone saying “SWATting should be illegal”
It is… it’s called reporting a false crime,
Could also be argued it’s reckless endangerment.
then why have they been doin it for at least 30 yrs?🤨
It should be way more considering the extremely damaging effects it has on those who get swatted for no reason
Thing is alot of swatters aren't from the country so its pretty much a hassle to contact that country's police force and even then that police force would just say "we'll look into it"
Swatting should be an automatic felony.
I feel so bad for qt. This has happened, shes been sexually harassed, shes faced misogynistic harassment.
That's every woman, no one lives long enough to not experience it
@@alphakowaclips it doesnt mean its okay. Shes been through too much.
This literally just happened at my apartment complex. Came home to 15 cop cars , swat team here , 2 ambulances, fire truck , fire captain. Turned out it was a swatting. Someone called in using voiceover IP to report that they shot someone with an AR 10 and had 2 hostages. Such a waste of resources. But sadly they likely won’t get caught. Everything was blocked off and cops with their assault rifles and more then one sniper were patrolling and stationed at the scene. It was nuts coming home to all that in my complex.
they should automatically block VOIP calls from going to 911. or at least have a big warning that says "called is masking their identity"
"hAhA iM gOnNa cALleD a swAt oN tHeM aNd tHat'S gOnnA bE tHe fUnnIEsT sHit"
at some point, they have to realize “wait. wait a moment. this the same fucking house. in the same fucking week.”
Swatting someone should be a felony
I don't understand why there isn't some kind of conversation with the local police. "Hey we're streamers and there's a thing called swatting. If you get a call in the future call us first"
that's like saying there should be a conversation with the guy who stole all my stuff on which things he cant take from me... uh no buddy, these arent the good guys like in the movies... these are people who will kick your door down and shoot your dog because you made them fill out paper work on a friday night...
@@mossbogger8366 They actually did make an agreement with the local PD. About this very thing. What are you even saying? That wasn't even close to coherent.
It's not a prank when you send trained murderers who are above the law to someone's house
One great way to prevent this is to inform your local and county police. Give them your number as well as the account you stream on.
Most now have a system in place and will call you as well as look if you're currently streaming if they get a call to your house.
Several biggerr streamers have mentioned it before , they call their PD and tell them whats going on and say hey check first , and they dont.
@redmangc I did say most. Also you should go to the station not just call them.
ludwig supposedly made an agreement with lapd that if they get that call to his house they’re supposed to call him first but they never do
The police don't care
You would think all it would take, is for them to look up the names that they gave them and check the stream. I’m sure it wouldn’t take more than a minute literally. And they could get a much better grasp on the situation like knowing if he’s a big RUclipsr or streamer and knowing that this is a pattern could save a lot of police and swat resources.
"grass" 💀
You know something:
Swatting has been there for a long time. People know exactly what they are doing. They just like to watch people who are happier and more successful than them suffer.
I don‘t understand the satisfaction that swatters get from doing this, because they can‘t actually witness the swatting. To them the only difference is that the streamer now has PTSD and is tired as hell. If somebody needs to exert their dominance in this twisted way, you can bet your arse they don‘t have any other way of doing it, so they just release their pent up rage on the only victims they can abuse.
It’s so dangerous. One of these days a streamer will be shot to death live on twitch….and this shit still won’t stop.
If anything, I’ll probably start happening more
Cops when terrorist: ☺️☺️☺️
Cops when streamer: 😈😈😈😈😈
The fact that the US law enforcement agencies are so insanely militarized is really the bigger issue here... Like, SWATing someone is clearly wrong and evil, but that it can be done at all is a serious indictment of the police as an institution.
Not really, swat teams are specialized units tasked with handling the more dangerous cases. If I have a group of terrorists or murderers or bank robbers holding people up I want a well organized swat team with armor and automatic weapons to take care of the situation instead of 8 or 9 cops with mediocre protection and a handgun/taser
@@rainphantom7024 yeah, except that those cases are few and far between, and that team can be called in after initial response once it's been confirmed that they're working on good Intel. Instead, every local police agency thinks they're made up of 15 John Rambos, and they'll pile in the SWAT van and bust down the door someplace with an anonymous tip. That they're equipped to respond is not the issue, that they're socialized and militarized to the point that they consider a no-knock SWATing of a private residence based on next to nothing... That's a HUGE issue.
The thing is they don’t think it’s a funny prank. They’re doing it maliciously.
There should be a steep punishment for people who do this
This is why people remain faceless now
Swatting should be considered attempted murder.
CIVIL LAWSUIT FOR EMOTIONAL DAMAGES.
they will pay your therapy forever and have to pay so much... the bigger the wins, the bigger effect it would have.
It's literally terrorism, but if the law won't recognize that, you gotta go in sideways, and emotional and psychological damages are real, and able to be compensated through garnished wages and such against these perpetrators.
I have an idea, maybe SWAT could do a little thing called "due diligence" that every other branch of law enforcement is required to do. That'd save some lives, huh?
Laws get put into place because peoples actions. They will literally never think about stopping the callers until streamers, sponsors, and fans come together and protest against false swatting.
“Why don’t they punish the callers?” they try. It’s very hard to track the call of someone who knows what they’re doing.
This is not just a streaming issue. It's a police issue. They're literally incompetent
I mean… it’s kind of a mixed bag. Apparently they had something set up where LAPD was supposed to check-in with Ludwig if their home ever got reported for anything. They apparently didn’t.
That being said… The “pranker” had to have said some VERY serious shit for them to completely disregard that. I know we wanna say “oh they did this maliciously” cause most people hate police… Genuinely just think they were trying to protect. Heart in the right place, just didn’t have all the info.
what are you talking about... if somebody calls and says I have 10 people hostage in this house and i'm gonna execute them right now, getting there as soon as possible is way more of a priority then checking to make sure its not a streamer... are you even smart enough to be part of society?
@@thetwistedsamuraiwell i mean if youve been to a houee 3-4 times, and they were all false youd thijk theyd learn
@@Spooksq Yeah I admit it’s a little confusing.
@@thetwistedsamuraithey should like look up who called and fine them at least
I hate how it’s not taken more seriously. Not only do these calls waste resources but it endangers lives. I’m glad the state I live in has laws in place for swatting(I don’t think any streamer live in my state one big case from my state was Dahmer), but they need a revamp since swatting is happening more and more prominent.
It’s the people who call that are the problem.
They are traceable. When 911 is called we get a gps location of where the call came from (most of the time) or we get a signal of which cell phone tower it pinged on. These people shouldn’t get away with this just because they think no face no case.
It’s also sad because it’s protocol for the police to take every call seriously especially when the people making the swat calls claim that there are guns and bombs. They don’t want a situation like the boy who cried wolf which is why they need to take into account that maybe this time it might be true.
I believe swatting in my state is a misdemeanor along with having to pay the fines of paying back all the resources that was used for a false call. If sentence and given a forfeiture. Not only criminal court but streamers can counter sue in civil court as well.
“I’ve made, enough money to chill now” like fair enough
Yeah it's scary to hear banging on your doors and yelling I speak from experience
All it takes is one slip of the finger, and someone can die. People need to stop these pranks
These are attempted murders and people who do it should go to prison with these charges
Hot take: the people who swat people knowing that there is nothing wrong should face 10% of the time in jail/prison for the crime they called for. For example if they called the police for a double homicide they’d face 10% of the time that somebody who actually committed double homicide would face.
These swatters should end up in federal prison
The fact that they've been swatted not once but THREE times is absolutely stupid on the SWAT team's part. Who the fuck is managing these cases.
I hope the people who call and do that to people go to jail
i am so lucky that she is here
tbh swatting should be a crime