Here's my *Game Of Thrones* King Snow Rhaegar Targaryen video. Everyone made a lot of bad calls and it all ties into "Breaking the Wheel" and Season 8. New Game of Thrones coming Sunday before Episode 6. Posting new *Marvel Defenders* next tonight!
No, technically they never had the title of King in the North, they were kings in westeros. The last person to hold this title Before Jon was Rob Stark, and Before him it was Torrhen Stark. Bitch
Amar Choomer, well no not really. In westeros, the Child takes the family name of the father, not the mother. So in name, Jon is a Targaryan, not a Stark.
It would be cool if Jon found out he was targeryan by seeing he's immune to fire . Like someone throws fire at him and Danerys thinks Jon will die and Jon doesn't get effected
Rhaegar: "Hey Ned, I love your sis." Ned: "Dude! You are married." Rhaegar: "Actually, not anymore." Ned: "Still, stay away from my sis..." Lyanna: "No, big bro! I also love him!" Ned: "Well, why didn't you say so before. That changes *everything*. You have my blessing then." Rhaegar: "Also, I want to rid Westeros of my father's madness. Will you help me?" Ned: "Sure. About time. Let me call Bobby and we'll handle things." Rhaegar: "Great, I'll send my buddy, Arthur, to aid you. So glad we spoke about this. Who knew what could have happened otherwise." Ned: "Tell me about it."
Bindair Dundat Question if that did happened you should have mentioned there would be other problems as well, for example elia martell and the martell would be super angry they would revolt, Brandon and Rickard would still be alive and ned would not be the Lord of Winterfell and not married to cateyn tully, ned would would mostly likely joins sellsword company in essos or become a hedge knight basically ned is the new wandering wolf.
Brandon would likely still not approve and neither would his father and Ned would not oppose them even he disagreed thus Brandon duels Rhaegar his father does not allow it and things happen as they originally did Ned was no lord or heir at the time he had no power of opinion on this
soyon manlai The martells knew Raeghar was supposedly away with Lyanna, yet they fought for him until the end, even though he snaked on Elia. Plus, he married Lyanna in Dorne, and had her secured in Dorne as well. Doesnt it seem strange that the dorneses didnt consider killing off Raeghar to stop Robert's ppl from killing Elia? Or given Lyanna back? I have a feeling Elia and her family knew about this whole new marriage and were ok with it.
The Targarian's had possesion of the Dornish princess and her kids seizing him would be akin to killing her. Regardles of how many times he married Rhaegar's kids with the the martels were the true heirs to the throne once he passed at the time Robert was not clear on if he was seizing the throne or not he was merely intent on removing the king and fighting anyone who got in his way. That said his actions were a major slight against Dorne so if the Mad king was not threatening to kill his grandkids he had to promise land and/or legal concesions to Dorne to keep them after his son insulted them
So bangtan he did not hate Elia, but it was clear she would not have any children after Aegon, and he was obsessed with the prophecy. The question is, why did Viserys not get a mention?
If someone did not spread the rumors of prince rheagar stolen lady lyanna, then rheagar would have to deal with dornish rebellion, because house Martell is super pissed off that elia is divorced and would never be queen, they would not accept that insult.
Yeah but he was already at the height of his power with the mad King. Unless he knew Rhaegar was going to get rid of him, but that's not specified in the books or tv show. He's always claiming to "work for the little people" but all he's managed is to create war and death.
I have watch your videos for such a long time.. I was never able to read the book (I am dyslexic) and you helped me understand everything on my favorite show!! Thank u
Missed explaining that Rhaegar is next line in succession after the king dies. Rhaegar is the older brother to Daenerys. Succession should go to the eldest son and the line continues to his children. Since the marriage with Elias was annulled, it goes to the offspring from his new wife, Lyanna. I think most people know this, but the fact that Rhaegar and Daenerys are brother and sister is often left out.
There will be a spinoff 100%, they have confirmed 4 TV shows based on Game Of Thrones world. I must note that none of the spinoffs will feature actors from game of thrones.
Nafwert great question! 🤔He probably just let Robert believe that Rhaegar murdered her. Probably sent the news through a raven and hightailed it back to Winterfell!
I'm starting to think Robert knew and made up the kidnapping as an excuse to lay waste to the Targaryen family.The Rhaegar flashback should be the fight with Robert who is jealous and in a rage.
charlie, i love your channel. not just for your impeccable and seemingly flawless analysis.... but for the fact that your community is the most civil out there. seriously, this is the ONLY community on youtube where the spoiler trolls aren't ruining it for everyone. it's like shelter, or a safe haven for those who just want to watch the episodes on their air date. either way, thanks and keep up the work!!! can't wait for episode 6!!!
Robert didn’t use the death of the Starks as an excuse to start the rebellion. The Mad King, after killing the Starks, demanded that Jon Arryn gave up Ned and Robert to him. And what do you think he would do to them? And Ned’s father didn’t go to the capital to make a petition to the Mad King. He was called by the King after the imprisonment of Ned’s brother. Also, I don't know how thing will happen in the books, but Cersei on the throne the way it was isn't GRRM doing.
To be honest E Awesome, I'd like to see them throw us right into the Tourney at Harrenhal as a cold opening and show us how that all went down and maybe ended it with a close up of Bran's face when he goes into time travel mode. It should be done just like they opened with Arya and the Freys. Once we get the close up of Brans face with the white eyes....cue up that awesome GOT theme music. 😎👍🏾
You guys need to watch Nerd Soup's video on Lyanna and Rhaegar's secret wedding. Its insane how he predicted this and how he explains the theory of how they really met and fell for each other
The Un Und Unly Why refuse when he can marry her, thus unifying the North and South, averting another war, and actually finding some semblance of happiness. She is falling in love with him, or at least she's really attracted to his qualities as both king and man. The producers are pushing them together. With so few episodes left, there isn't really another option.
I think the best way to do it is that he wins against the white walkers and people sort of declare him king because they respect him. I say that, because Jon isn't the type of guy to make claims or ask for leadership.
Hey Charlie. I just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on this theory. Season 6, Episode 2 Pike, The Iron Islands Balon Greyjoy is walking on a rope bridge when he meets his long lost brother, Euron. They have a conversation and this line gets dropped by Euron. "I don't mock the drowned god. I am the drowned god" -------------------------------------- Season 7, episode 5 The Citadel, Oldtown Samwell Tarly tells the Maesters about the White Walkers and Bran Stark. They mock him and start joking about prophecies. One prophecy states that the drowned god would rise up and destroy Aegon the Conqueror. Do you think that this throw away line was foreshadowing that Euron will kill or atleast greatly harm Dany?
This is an excerpt from A Game of Thrones, when Dany repeats what Mirri Maz Duur told her about Drogo's recovery. And when the bleak dawn broke over an empty horizon, Dany knew that he was truly lost to her. "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," she said sadly. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When my womb quickens again, and I bear a living child. Then you will return, my sun-and-stars, and not before." Never, the darkness cried, never never never. She knelt, kissed Drogo on the lips, and pressed the cushion down across his face. As you can see, Mirri Maz Duur made it clear that it's never going to happen. She was a maegi, and Dany's midwife, and according to her Dany is barren. Spoilers if you haven't read A Dance with Dragons. If you search for that quote on Google, you will be flooded with results of theories and discussions from the last couple of years, as there has been an interesting set of developments in the final chapters of A Dance with Dragons. The general idea of those discussions is as follows. When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, This refers to Quentyn Martell, who was born in Westeros, and as confirmed by Barristan, died after what happened with the dragons. In Essos. In Quaithe's prophecy, he was referred to as the sun's son. “Sit, my friend.” When Belwas sat and crossed his arms, Ser Barristan went on. “Quentyn Martell died this morning, just before the dawn.” When the seas go dry... In her last chapter of ADwD, Dany walks through the Dothraki Sea, and realizes that it's no longer the deep green as she remembered. Winter is coming, and the sea of grass is drying up. Even here autumn made its presence felt, and winter would not be far behind. The grass was paler than she remembered, a wan and sickly green on the verge of going yellow. After that would come brown. The grass was dying. ...and mountains blow in the wind like leaves, After Quentyn released the dragons from captivity, they had been wreaking havoc throughout the city of Meereen. Some of the pyramids there, which stood like mountains, have been completely destroyed. The pyramid of Hazkar has collapsed into a smoking ruin, and many of that ancient line lie dead beneath its blackened stones. Some think that it refers to Gregor Clegane, who is what he is now. When my womb quickens again, and I bear a living child. As Dany finds herself starving in the Dothraki Sea, she forces herself to drink the dirty water in the stream and chew on some berries that she finds to sate her hunger and thirst. That's quickly followed by severe stomach cramps, fever, and haemorrhage. Many believe that she had miscarried. I realize that none of the ingredients of moon tea - tansy and wormwood are asters, pennyroyal is a type of mint - will produce berries, but I still believe that it was those berries (maybe oleander?) that caused the miscarriage. She was bleeding, but it was only woman’s blood. The moon is still a crescent, though. How can that be? She tried to remember the last time she had bled. The last full moon? The one before? The one before that? No, it cannot have been so long as that. [...] Moon blood, it’s only my moon blood, but she did not remember ever having such a heavy flow. Could it be the water? If it was the water, she was doomed. She had to drink or die of thirst. If nothing else, this confirms that it wasn't the bloody flux, the disease that's gripping the city of Meereen. I would take it as the case for her womb quickening again. Now we're left with Dany bearing a living child, and the return of her sun-and-stars. That's a story for another time, but the answer to your question, is no. Dany isn't barren.
Julieta I always wondered if she allowed it to happen or gave him permission since she couldn't have anymore children and this prophecy was so important to him. 🤔 Oberon was really angry, but he didn't give us any insight on what his sister was thinking or her state of mind.
Man I have been following your videos and I must say you are one of the only people out there that are so well informed and understand how the Game of thrones universe works. Job well done will be eagerly awaiting your next thrones video!
Jon snow is the story of ice and fire. His parents are confirmed to be stark and targaryen, the targaryen words is "fire and blood" while the stark words are "winter is coming". That's why I think Jon is the one who is has always acted as the medium between westeros and beyond the wall and seen the real issue.
Yes thank you for making this Charlie! And you included one of my fave scenes ofc lol. Staying away from the internet as much as possible. Too much info going on sadly. Have great weekend *high five*
And why did they not bring horses? Seriously. I've seen episode 6, I wasn't about to have the plot spoiled for me in some comments section. Horses would have been super, super useful.
People got married at 12,13+ in England in the medieval times as people died at around the age of 30 so it's not that creepy if you consider historical context.
Thank you so much for this. I haven't read the books yet but have watched a ton of videos where they talk about this and yours is by far the most clear!! 👍😸
Wait I just noticed the mothers of Dany, Jon and Tyrion all died from child birth. The three dragon heads of the Targaryen sigil? Maybe a hint in something important in the future.
Q&A: do you think howland reed will ever make a cameo in season 8, will he play some role? But in my opinion i think in the book version howland reed will play a major role in the northern conspiracy in crowning jon as king jon of the north?
Karen Smiley Brandon was strange to death while trying to reach the sword to save his burning father, and the mad king was totally insane do to his years of failure and countless misfortune.
It's bad. I've never been one to complain about the "teleporting" but jesus christ it's medieval startrek at this point. Except there's some pacing between teleporter scenes in Star Trek. This is just rushed. And poorly written. The characters don't have any actual motives anymore beyond advancing the plot as fast as possible. I can't believe this show is just CGI the show now.
Just wanted to let you know that you have one of the best GoT theory and explanation channel's out there, your videos are really interesting, and even watching older videos I can see that your hypotheses are actually really accurate and explained well with clear arguments and evidence! A lot of the RUclipsrs doing GoT theory videos remain a little too neutral, while you often express how you feel about certain ideas and plot twists and that makes your videos really interesting to watch :)
My flashback scene: Trident. Dialogue between blows: "She' mine!" "You dont love her" "She's bethrowed to me. She's mine!" "She's not property, she can choose for herself" "She's mine!" "I love her" "She's mine!" "You're too late. We were married in Dorne, and our reign will be peaceful and prosperous" "You will never have her!" "Ly..ann...a" :)
It's gonna be a guy names Devin oliver. European rockstar and looks exactly what you think rhaegar would look like. Go look at his Instagram. Posted a picture a long time ago saying he would appear in game of thrones season 7!
Vali yea Devin isn't a good fit af all and he isn't an actor. He's too skinny the only thing going for him is his face. While wilf has the stature and the build but not the face
Wilf is a really depressing choice. I hope D+D found a way to transform him because everything I saw of him is so far from my idea of rhaegar. Rhaegar is supposed to be absolutely beautiful.
Vali they don't have enough money to afford them. And game of thrones is all about getting actors no one knows. That's why the show is really good. I would be pissed if it was Thor lol
Cersei being pregnant will give her more reason to agree to an armistice, and once she miscarries (fulfilling the Maggy prophecy) she'll go nuckin futs again and break the armistice. Hopefully by then the wights will be donezo. Otherwise I could see Jamie killing her while she's pregnant.
nah shes gonna go to the armistice see that the whites are real. And then she will not give her armies to help fight the dead, she will stay in kings landing under the impression that the dead will kill her enemies for her. Cersei will never help her enemies even to her own benefit.
it´s not that I support polygamy, but why didn´t Rhaegar just have two wives?, Aegon took both his sisters as wives, the Dothraki take many wives, it would have been badly seen but not impossible and better than all that happened, but we wouldn´t have a story without it
Sophia Wilson. Guys, there is a group on Facebook called ASOIAF/GoT Discussions & Theories. It's great and any question you have, it'll be answered. As far as polygamy is considered, the Faith did not permit that. They also did not permit incest, but the bigger picture here is that they chose the ones they wanted to permit. They condoned the marriage of Jaehaerys I and Alysanne Targaryen. And condemned others. The objectives of the Faith and the maesters has never been clear.
when aegon the conquerer came to westeros with his 2 sister wives i dont think they followed the faith of the seven at the time. i think they were still fresh from the doom of valyria and whatever the faith the valeryians followed. it wasnt until later generations that they began following the religion more closely and even then, i think the targaryians still had plenty of incest and bastards floating around.
I'm still pretty bummed that they went with the annulment route and threw Elia Martell under the bus like that. I'm still a little confused on the exact timeline of Roberts Rebellion and which Kingsgaurd were where. GREAT footage at 7:48! Kit is so cute BTS! I heard he had to wear a harness to keep from flying off the cliff!
Picture the end battle guys!!!...Jon amd the night king are clashing steel and ice and as soon as jon kills the night king he also falls dead because his purpose is fulfilled and the magic keeping him alive is gone
Here's my *Game Of Thrones* King Snow Rhaegar Targaryen video. Everyone made a lot of bad calls and it all ties into "Breaking the Wheel" and Season 8. New Game of Thrones coming Sunday before Episode 6. Posting new *Marvel Defenders* next tonight!
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Emergency Awesome I'm all about that notification squad
Love the videos man! Always great way to recap on each episode. Hope you continue to gain respect and followers for the great job you do.
thanks! 🖐
Emergency Awesome now a video about the Obi-Wan movie, Charlie!
That overlapping audio you did in the beginning with Jon petting Drogon was amazing!
Drogon the Targaryen theme song over that have been so much better though! :3
Which theme is that? Can't find it, and now I'm curious to hear it after your comment :)
Tony Ferns, i notice the theme Song they use, its amazing...Its bring all the chills, better than the Stark theme on that scene...
Space Age Shakespeare winterfell theme
This comment is underrated
By my age Rhaegar already married, had a kid, started a war and died in epic combat. I feel lazy.
And was a skilled poet and musician
he had 3 kids: 2 with Ellia, and 1 with Lyanna
😂😂😂
@@undarkwin lol yes! 3 kids and 2 women. He also did his part to try and save the whole world. We are all failing in life.
Half Stark, half Targaryen. Half ice and half fire... A song of ice and fire in its entirety is actually about Jon Snow and his purpose in life :')
That clip of Jon at 7:47 😂😂
lmao
Kieran Cheale imagine if he did that In front of Drogon 🤣🤣
Kieran Cheale its from emelia clarkes Instagram page lol
It's from Emilia Clarke's instagram
Best part of the whole vid.
That clip of Kit Harington flapping his cloak in the wind was gold.
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Is it just me finding it amusing that for the first time in Westerosy history, a Targaryan is King in the North.
That is some achievment
Lord Eddard Stark All the previous Targ Kings were king in the North tbf. You were just a warden you headless tit.
No, technically they never had the title of King in the North, they were kings in westeros. The last person to hold this title Before Jon was Rob Stark, and Before him it was Torrhen Stark.
Bitch
Lord Eddard Stark if you refer to him as a targ. He's also a stark
Lord Eddard Stark The North is in Westeros. Moot point.
Amar Choomer, well no not really. In westeros, the Child takes the family name of the father, not the mother. So in name, Jon is a Targaryan, not a Stark.
DROGON IS FUCKING GORGEOUS WHEN HE BLINKS
Βασιλης S I loved how they showed the compassion in his eyes when Jon touches him.
Βασιλης S he's like, I know you're a targaryen.
hes like "daddyyy"
metaminerx lol
Drogon: Hello, Cousin!
Cant wait to see more flashbacks surrounding R+L and the rebellion....
Not expecting mega Rhaegar scenes till season 8, but they will probably confirm R+L=J in some more obvious way this year.
Androsthemighty22 One episode left though
I really want to know Jons real name but probably will be next season
B247E and we'll have to wait till 2019 for s8 lol
B247E Its Aegon
It would be cool if Jon found out he was targeryan by seeing he's immune to fire . Like someone throws fire at him and Danerys thinks Jon will die and Jon doesn't get effected
I can't believe they had gilly confirm Jon targaryen
Tyrion Lannister she was probably more interested in reading about the frequent bowel movements.
John Diggle hot
Gilly has Aspergers. She's a slow learner but very smart lol
Tyrion Lannister I like it, gives her character a point for being in the show other than Sam's lover.
His real name is Aegon
Charlie, I loved that little montage of Jon towards the beginning. It brought all the feels
Rhaegar: "Hey Ned, I love your sis."
Ned: "Dude! You are married."
Rhaegar: "Actually, not anymore."
Ned: "Still, stay away from my sis..."
Lyanna: "No, big bro! I also love him!"
Ned: "Well, why didn't you say so before. That changes *everything*. You have my blessing then."
Rhaegar: "Also, I want to rid Westeros of my father's madness. Will you help me?"
Ned: "Sure. About time. Let me call Bobby and we'll handle things."
Rhaegar: "Great, I'll send my buddy, Arthur, to aid you. So glad we spoke about this. Who knew what could have happened otherwise."
Ned: "Tell me about it."
Bindair Dundat
Question if that did happened you should have mentioned there would be other problems as well, for example elia martell and the martell would be super angry they would revolt, Brandon and Rickard would still be alive and ned would not be the Lord of Winterfell and not married to cateyn tully, ned would would mostly likely joins sellsword company in essos or become a hedge knight basically ned is the new wandering wolf.
Brandon would likely still not approve and neither would his father and Ned would not oppose them even he disagreed thus Brandon duels Rhaegar his father does not allow it and things happen as they originally did Ned was no lord or heir at the time he had no power of opinion on this
soyon manlai The martells knew Raeghar was supposedly away with Lyanna, yet they fought for him until the end, even though he snaked on Elia. Plus, he married Lyanna in Dorne, and had her secured in Dorne as well. Doesnt it seem strange that the dorneses didnt consider killing off Raeghar to stop Robert's ppl from killing Elia? Or given Lyanna back? I have a feeling Elia and her family knew about this whole new marriage and were ok with it.
The Targarian's had possesion of the Dornish princess and her kids seizing him would be akin to killing her. Regardles of how many times he married Rhaegar's kids with the the martels were the true heirs to the throne once he passed at the time Robert was not clear on if he was seizing the throne or not he was merely intent on removing the king and fighting anyone who got in his way. That said his actions were a major slight against Dorne so if the Mad king was not threatening to kill his grandkids he had to promise land and/or legal concesions to Dorne to keep them after his son insulted them
When you watch the leaked episodes then you have to wait a week and a half till the next one instead of a week :(
RektByMitch- You got the price, the leaked ep, which has a consequence. That us you'll have to wait a lot longer for next ep. haah
RektByMitch- then 13+ months for next episode. I get you my brotha
Meh, one week, two weeks. Still nothing compared to the Long -Night- Wait between season 7 and 8
RektByMitch- not if episode 7 is leaked hahahahahaha ;)
The Dragon scene was crazy!!!
I feel bad for Elia Martell.
cullen bloodstone I feel bad for Elia martell, rhaegar was a unfaithful son of a bitch who made his whole family doomed
So bangtan he did not hate Elia, but it was clear she would not have any children after Aegon, and he was obsessed with the prophecy.
The question is, why did Viserys not get a mention?
Yeah, especially considering how she died.
If someone did not spread the rumors of prince rheagar stolen lady lyanna, then rheagar would have to deal with dornish rebellion, because house Martell is super pissed off that elia is divorced and would never be queen, they would not accept that insult.
Her and her children were killed for no reason if her children were no longer legitimate heirs. That's so messed up!
Why would Vary's want to destroy Rhaegar's chances at a peaceful overthrow? Considering his dedication for Dany, it just doesn't make sense
He regrets.
georgia strawbridge chaos is ladder
Maybe he's a blackfyre symphatizer
He regrets it alot thats why he has the convo with Tyrion to make sure she doesnt become the mad king
Yeah but he was already at the height of his power with the mad King. Unless he knew Rhaegar was going to get rid of him, but that's not specified in the books or tv show. He's always claiming to "work for the little people" but all he's managed is to create war and death.
Jon flapping his cloak 😂
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That scene w/ Jon and Drogon is just absolutely stunning. Love it.
I have watch your videos for such a long time.. I was never able to read the book (I am dyslexic) and you helped me understand everything on my favorite show!! Thank u
thanks! 🖐🐉
Master Honey Get the audio books! Problem sorted 👍 I love listening in bed
davos seaworthy how is he supposed to buy the audio if he cant read
Alex Morales what? He can still read just not an entire novel.
I have an off-topic question. Do you think Dany will find out that the man who saved Jorah is the son/brother of the two men she just fried?
That'll piss off Jon as well.Samwell is his BFF
Second Sight Totes agree about the dad. But Dickon was ironically not a dick to Sam. He deserved better.
I just know Sam wouldnt mind since his father was going to kill him if he didnt take the black.
Bros before Hoes
PopsiclesInMyCellar Oh your Samwell Tarley, your helping with all this war for the dawn sh.. Ohhh about your dad and brother, ermmm.
Missed explaining that Rhaegar is next line in succession after the king dies. Rhaegar is the older brother to Daenerys. Succession should go to the eldest son and the line continues to his children. Since the marriage with Elias was annulled, it goes to the offspring from his new wife, Lyanna. I think most people know this, but the fact that Rhaegar and Daenerys are brother and sister is often left out.
I hope there will be a spin-off or another TV show similar to Game of Thrones after season 8. I cant imagine life without Game of Thrones. :-(
I can hardly believe this life of shitty rushed GoT.
imao plz shut the fuck up,so what if thier rushed
They have ordered 4 spin offs, all based in the "World of ice and fire" series
black sails is not as good as GOT , but i would say its not bad.
There will be a spinoff 100%, they have confirmed 4 TV shows based on Game Of Thrones world. I must note that none of the spinoffs will feature actors from game of thrones.
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Severus Snape kills Dumbledore.
NOOOO Nooo IT'S NOT TRUE...THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
Well, the dude was dying anyway....
EASILY THE BEST INTRO YOU'VE EVER DONE!!!
Loved this so much!! WELL DONE!!!!
I wonder how Ned told Robert how Lyanna died. It's not like he could tell him that she died giving birth.
He didn't. He might have just said she was dead and nothing else.
one of the men betrait us and killed her, but he is also dead now.
likely he told him that she killed herself... Thus Robert's hates
Nafwert great question! 🤔He probably just let Robert believe that Rhaegar murdered her. Probably sent the news through a raven and hightailed it back to Winterfell!
"Betrait" ...... lol
Handsome Prince man...
Cracked me up!
It's not hard to buy he charmed her and she's a 14-15 year old girl who doesn't want to be betrothed to Robert Baratheon.
Emergency Awesome my comment was more like your quips cracks me up. 😊
It seems like nobody wants Robert Baratheon. Kind of sad. I see why he was bitter.
I'm starting to think Robert knew and made up the kidnapping as an excuse to lay waste to the Targaryen family.The Rhaegar flashback should be the fight with Robert who is jealous and in a rage.
charlie, i love your channel. not just for your impeccable and seemingly flawless analysis.... but for the fact that your community is the most civil out there. seriously, this is the ONLY community on youtube where the spoiler trolls aren't ruining it for everyone. it's like shelter, or a safe haven for those who just want to watch the episodes on their air date.
either way, thanks and keep up the work!!! can't wait for episode 6!!!
The worst part about watching a leaked episode is I have no one to discuss it with 😣
Kira Blair I know. Let's discuss how the sisters fooled little finger and killed him. And how Jamie leaves his sister to fight against the dead alone.
That Tyrion Targaryen reveal was something else.
Kira Blair that's why I'm waiting to watch it on Sunday. So i can have some to talk to lol
Hot Pie Azor Ahai reveal was amazing
Kira Blair ...and you now have to wait for 2 weeks for the next episode
None of this would happen if Frodo would just destroy that damn Ring....
ok, that was pretty fuckin' delightful in this quagmire of trolls.
Robert didn’t use the death of the Starks as an excuse to start the rebellion. The Mad King, after killing the Starks, demanded that Jon Arryn gave up Ned and Robert to him. And what do you think he would do to them?
And Ned’s father didn’t go to the capital to make a petition to the Mad King. He was called by the King after the imprisonment of Ned’s brother.
Also, I don't know how thing will happen in the books, but Cersei on the throne the way it was isn't GRRM doing.
To be honest E Awesome, I'd like to see them throw us right into the Tourney at Harrenhal as a cold opening and show us how that all went down and maybe ended it with a close up of Bran's face when he goes into time travel mode. It should be done just like they opened with Arya and the Freys. Once we get the close up of Brans face with the white eyes....cue up that awesome GOT theme music. 😎👍🏾
You guys need to watch Nerd Soup's video on Lyanna and Rhaegar's secret wedding. Its insane how he predicted this and how he explains the theory of how they really met and fell for each other
Tasha Yes! Such a cool channel and video))
Thanks so much for the video! Didn't know some of the reasoning behind Rhaegar's wedding aside from his love for Lyanna. Keep up the great vids man!
Jon will be the legitimate heir to the iron throne unless he refuse to be King like what happened to Maester Aemon.....
The Un Und Unly Why refuse when he can marry her, thus unifying the North and South, averting another war, and actually finding some semblance of happiness. She is falling in love with him, or at least she's really attracted to his qualities as both king and man. The producers are pushing them together. With so few episodes left, there isn't really another option.
I think the best way to do it is that he wins against the white walkers and people sort of declare him king because they respect him. I say that, because Jon isn't the type of guy to make claims or ask for leadership.
well jon did technically die and when that happened the throne would have passed to dany
sansa would be doing that.. remember that she can marry a son lesser lord and have their children take the stark name..
The Un Und Unly I don't think a king can be legitimate unless he's part of a parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy.
"Okay, I'll run away with you handsome prince man, let's go!", - Charlie 2017.
That stark theme in the beginning, perfectly put with the scenes. Killed me
wish more targareyans were alive they seem badass
heera mirza in the Books
aegon is a blackfyre
He's a fraud in the books.
heera mirza THATS WHY DANY AND JON NEED TO "MULTIPLY" ;)
In the books there is a Targaeryan leading the Golden Company, Cersei just mentioned in episode 5.
I don't understand why some people hate s7 so far... I think it's great!
Things are happening too fast, some people don't like that.
It's a nice change for things to happen at an appropriate speed rather than the drag that the first 5 seasons were.
II_SULFUR_ X by the way the night king throws an ice spear at one of the dragons and kills it and then turns it.
GCDvlogs read.my.comment
I don't get why they think its too fast.. like yo ive been waiting 7 seasons and years for this!! Lol
I had goosebumps in the intro part!! WOW!! Amazing video!!
Hey Charlie. I just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on this theory.
Season 6, Episode 2
Pike, The Iron Islands
Balon Greyjoy is walking on a rope bridge when he meets his long lost brother, Euron. They have a conversation and this line gets dropped by Euron. "I don't mock the drowned god. I am the drowned god"
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Season 7, episode 5
The Citadel, Oldtown
Samwell Tarly tells the Maesters about the White Walkers and Bran Stark. They mock him and start joking about prophecies. One prophecy states that the drowned god would rise up and destroy Aegon the Conqueror.
Do you think that this throw away line was foreshadowing that Euron will kill or atleast greatly harm Dany?
I don't think Daenerys is in any real danger.
Emergency Awesome Daenrys will die, i feel maybe Jon snow will have to kill her
Currently, Jon is the best fighter in all of Westeros and he bent the knee.
Zahid J Malik he is by no means the best fighter in Westeros. The Hound and even Jorah would beat him in single combat.
When they meet he might kill someone
This is an excerpt from A Game of Thrones, when Dany repeats what Mirri Maz Duur told her about Drogo's recovery.
And when the bleak dawn broke over an empty horizon, Dany knew that he was truly lost to her. "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," she said sadly. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When my womb quickens again, and I bear a living child. Then you will return, my sun-and-stars, and not before."
Never, the darkness cried, never never never.
She knelt, kissed Drogo on the lips, and pressed the cushion down across his face.
As you can see, Mirri Maz Duur made it clear that it's never going to happen. She was a maegi, and Dany's midwife, and according to her Dany is barren.
Spoilers if you haven't read A Dance with Dragons.
If you search for that quote on Google, you will be flooded with results of theories and discussions from the last couple of years, as there has been an interesting set of developments in the final chapters of A Dance with Dragons. The general idea of those discussions is as follows.
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east,
This refers to Quentyn Martell, who was born in Westeros, and as confirmed by Barristan, died after what happened with the dragons. In Essos. In Quaithe's prophecy, he was referred to as the sun's son.
“Sit, my friend.” When Belwas sat and crossed his arms, Ser Barristan went on. “Quentyn Martell died this morning, just before the dawn.”
When the seas go dry...
In her last chapter of ADwD, Dany walks through the Dothraki Sea, and realizes that it's no longer the deep green as she remembered. Winter is coming, and the sea of grass is drying up.
Even here autumn made its presence felt, and winter would not be far behind. The grass was paler than she remembered, a wan and sickly green on the verge of going yellow. After that would come brown. The grass was dying.
...and mountains blow in the wind like leaves,
After Quentyn released the dragons from captivity, they had been wreaking havoc throughout the city of Meereen. Some of the pyramids there, which stood like mountains, have been completely destroyed.
The pyramid of Hazkar has collapsed into a smoking ruin, and many of that ancient line lie dead beneath its blackened stones.
Some think that it refers to Gregor Clegane, who is what he is now.
When my womb quickens again, and I bear a living child.
As Dany finds herself starving in the Dothraki Sea, she forces herself to drink the dirty water in the stream and chew on some berries that she finds to sate her hunger and thirst. That's quickly followed by severe stomach cramps, fever, and haemorrhage. Many believe that she had miscarried. I realize that none of the ingredients of moon tea - tansy and wormwood are asters, pennyroyal is a type of mint - will produce berries, but I still believe that it was those berries (maybe oleander?) that caused the miscarriage.
She was bleeding, but it was only woman’s blood. The moon is still a crescent, though. How can that be? She tried to remember the last time she had bled. The last full moon? The one before? The one before that? No, it cannot have been so long as that.
[...]
Moon blood, it’s only my moon blood, but she did not remember ever having such a heavy flow. Could it be the water? If it was the water, she was doomed. She had to drink or die of thirst.
If nothing else, this confirms that it wasn't the bloody flux, the disease that's gripping the city of Meereen. I would take it as the case for her womb quickening again.
Now we're left with Dany bearing a living child, and the return of her sun-and-stars. That's a story for another time, but the answer to your question, is no. Dany isn't barren.
This means Danny can have children
Solluminati The Ref yep 100% dude
Solluminati The Ref Wow, you are thorough. But how would it play in the TV show?
Ayin Muhsinah how will the children play in the tv
Solluminati The Ref
7:46 - 7:51 HAHAHAHA best ever. That caught me off guard lmao
but how much did Princess Elia know of Rhaegar's plans?
probably no more than anyone else.
Julieta I always wondered if she allowed it to happen or gave him permission since she couldn't have anymore children and this prophecy was so important to him. 🤔 Oberon was really angry, but he didn't give us any insight on what his sister was thinking or her state of mind.
Maybe I missed something but if Elia had two kids by Rhaegar, why wouldn't they have claim to throne before Jon?
NL Luxe The mountain killed her and her kids on the orders of Tywin Lannister after Roberts Rebellion
NL Luxe they're dead. The mountain killed them. That's why Oberon wanted revenge.
Hope we get to see some flashbacks soon! Awesome video!
Man I have been following your videos and I must say you are one of the only people out there that are so well informed and understand how the Game of thrones universe works. Job well done will be eagerly awaiting your next thrones video!
Jon Snow be like to Dany - I'll bend the knee if I can bend you over later 😏
Show you that thing I do with my tongue
How bout I bend you ova. .....
Tongue punch you in the fart box
Fuck off
Hell yeah bro, bring on the incest saga of Targaryens
Phone rings...
Jon Snow: who is this?
Danerys: Ben
Jon Snow: Ben who?
Danerys: Ben D. Knee (click)
Jon Snow: 😔
I've always been fascinated with Rhaegar Targaryen. I want GoT prequel with Bradley James as Rhaegar Targaryen. Great video btw!
Aegon Targaryen is the rightful ruler of the 7 kingdoms
Euron Greyjoy not if an annulment happened. +that book storyline sucks
Euron Greyjoy Not if an ice dragon freezes the seven kingdoms
lord pheanix ice dragons and undead dragons are different things in the book.
well jon did technically die and when that happened the throne would have passed to dany even with the annulment
Hey Euron Greyjoy are you still fighting with the unsullied ships or na?
I love this channel. So much info ❤️
thanks! 🖐
Awesome video. Watched it 3 times and picked up something new every time. Alot of information and clarification here. Keep up the good work
Jon snow is the story of ice and fire. His parents are confirmed to be stark and targaryen, the targaryen words is "fire and blood" while the stark words are "winter is coming". That's why I think Jon is the one who is has always acted as the medium between westeros and beyond the wall and seen the real issue.
I really want George to write books about Robert's Rebellion :/
Jolan Wouters what for? Everything we need to know we already know
SantomPh I think it would be interesting to read everyone's perspective in that period of time. Ned, Robert, Jon Arryn, Rheagar, Tywin, etc.
@@SantomPh We want details, and we don't know everything (who spread the rumor, why, did elia was ok with lyanna ect...)
Dat opening though....cutting from Lyanna to Jon petting Drogon. The feels are real 😄
Ser Arthur Dayne is such a beast!
FreaKJumPaa
Don't forget Gerald of hightowers and ser barristan selmy.
And now I must read the books👌🏾
Yes you must - they are much better than the show.
Excellent presentation! Not only good material but presented informatively and made total sense! Thank you. Nick.
ITS RHAEGAR TARGARYEN
Dan Davies no it's Ragar
Dan Davies *Reggar :p
RAGGAR
nope it robert boaratheon
HAHAH
I can't believe Dany & Jon have me rooting for an incestuous relationship! LOL
Yes thank you for making this Charlie! And you included one of my fave scenes ofc lol. Staying away from the internet as much as possible. Too much info going on sadly. Have great weekend *high five*
Why did Ghost not go north of the wall?!??
They opted to not include him this season .
Emergency Awesome too much money spent on dragons I'd assume. so gay.
Peter I and also, they did not go to Winterfell. they went straight from Dragonstone to Eastwatch via boat.
And why did they not bring horses? Seriously. I've seen episode 6, I wasn't about to have the plot spoiled for me in some comments section. Horses would have been super, super useful.
lmao thats a very good question
I hope at the end of this season Jon Snow will learn about his Targaryen heritage.
That intro gave me chills, great job!
The story is getting more twisted than a plot in The Bold and the Beautiful :D
wot
People got married at 12,13+ in England in the medieval times as people died at around the age of 30 so it's not that creepy if you consider historical context.
Thank you so much for this. I haven't read the books yet but have watched a ton of videos where they talk about this and yours is by far the most clear!! 👍😸
Well explained!
thanks! 🖐
So Daenerys is Jon's aunt?
yes. She was born within a year of him though. Just a little bit younger than him.
oh yeah ;) would love some more of that incest p0rn
Abel Luna correct
someone did a family tree and incest dna %
so looking at dna theyre closer to brother and sister with all that targaryen inbreeding
small rogue yeah but jon dad is dany brother
Your coverage is so informed and concise, thank you so much for the prep work and background you do.
I love the part @ 7:46
Wait I just noticed the mothers of Dany, Jon and Tyrion all died from child birth. The three dragon heads of the Targaryen sigil? Maybe a hint in something important in the future.
ValourOnPC nope
nah
ValourOnPC Just watch the new ep and u will understand
Mr Kajja maybe stop dropping spoilers
I think Tim just explained why that doesnt matter tariq.
I love how you analyse everything so carefully :)
So Jon snow is really Jon Targaryen ..And Ned Stark is his uncle, and the Stark kids are his cousin..also Dany is his Auntie..holy smokes Bat Man..
Oh
Q&A: do you think howland reed will ever make a cameo in season 8, will he play some role?
But in my opinion i think in the book version howland reed will play a major role in the northern conspiracy in crowning jon as king jon of the north?
Why were Ned's father & Uncle burned by the mad king?
Karen Smiley
Brandon was strange to death while trying to reach the sword to save his burning father, and the mad king was totally insane do to his years of failure and countless misfortune.
Thanks! Now why was Brandon's father burning?
Karen Smiley
Demands a trial by combat from rickard but the mad king names his champion wildfire. Their execution started robert's rebellions.
Thank you Charlie for helping me get through another week without! Your videos are "awesome" and so fun to watch 👏🏻🤗
7:46 WTF is Jon Snow doing???
Golian Vaiphei no idea bro
Golian Vaiphei He's a dragon haahaha check out Emilia Clark's instagram and you will understand😂
All I'm saying is the new episode is amazing.
Jesus, I almost got a heart attack. It was glorious !
Exodus if I were you, I couldn't be the one who's complaining since seasons 8 is the last season of the god damn show,
you do realise the ravens took all night to get there, they even fell asleep
It's bad. I've never been one to complain about the "teleporting" but jesus christ it's medieval startrek at this point. Except there's some pacing between teleporter scenes in Star Trek. This is just rushed. And poorly written. The characters don't have any actual motives anymore beyond advancing the plot as fast as possible. I can't believe this show is just CGI the show now.
Emi Campitelli thought it waz just me lol
Just wanted to let you know that you have one of the best GoT theory and explanation channel's out there, your videos are really interesting, and even watching older videos I can see that your hypotheses are actually really accurate and explained well with clear arguments and evidence! A lot of the RUclipsrs doing GoT theory videos remain a little too neutral, while you often express how you feel about certain ideas and plot twists and that makes your videos really interesting to watch :)
lol how to train your pet dragon
omg emergency awesome you liked my comment * hi-five* i'm flattered too bad it's not during one of your give aways * wink wink nudge nudge* lol
Get a room
hahahahaha
My flashback scene: Trident. Dialogue between blows:
"She' mine!"
"You dont love her"
"She's bethrowed to me. She's mine!"
"She's not property, she can choose for herself"
"She's mine!"
"I love her"
"She's mine!"
"You're too late. We were married in Dorne, and our reign will be peaceful and prosperous"
"You will never have her!"
"Ly..ann...a"
:)
Tresha Powell
Then Robert would easily forget that and only think about having lyanna as his queen, but sadly she died while giving brith to jon.
this is the best intro u have ever done is all of ur videos
Charlie, have you heard the rumors that the Welsh actor Wilf Scolding will be playing Rhaegar?
I think it will be Ed Sheeran with a wig
It's gonna be a guy names Devin oliver. European rockstar and looks exactly what you think rhaegar would look like. Go look at his Instagram. Posted a picture a long time ago saying he would appear in game of thrones season 7!
Vali yea Devin isn't a good fit af all and he isn't an actor. He's too skinny the only thing going for him is his face. While wilf has the stature and the build but not the face
Wilf is a really depressing choice. I hope D+D found a way to transform him because everything I saw of him is so far from my idea of rhaegar. Rhaegar is supposed to be absolutely beautiful.
Vali they don't have enough money to afford them. And game of thrones is all about getting actors no one knows. That's why the show is really good. I would be pissed if it was Thor lol
Sam is the true hero.
Caniprokis NOT SAM. its GILLY the real hero LOL
I think Sam is the chronicler of the Song of Fire and Ice.
Love your videos! Thanks so much for being so cautious about spoilers too!!!
Cersei being pregnant will give her more reason to agree to an armistice, and once she miscarries (fulfilling the Maggy prophecy) she'll go nuckin futs again and break the armistice. Hopefully by then the wights will be donezo. Otherwise I could see Jamie killing her while she's pregnant.
there is a good chance she is faking the pregnancy.
Paulsicles Why would she fake it though?
To keep Jaime loyal.
Melissa Apoka to keep a tighter control on Jaime.
nah shes gonna go to the armistice see that the whites are real. And then she will not give her armies to help fight the dead, she will stay in kings landing under the impression that the dead will kill her enemies for her. Cersei will never help her enemies even to her own benefit.
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Love your videos and commentary. Watch them weekly! Part of my GOT weekly activities
notication squad!
Ayyy lol
TheAngryGhost hiya
I like how fast season 7 is. Doesn't drag on like the previous seasons. Like SO FAR there had only been ONE boring episode for season 7 lol.
Nice editing at the beginning, gave me chills!
it´s not that I support polygamy, but why didn´t Rhaegar just have two wives?, Aegon took both his sisters as wives, the Dothraki take many wives, it would have been badly seen but not impossible and better than all that happened, but we wouldn´t have a story without it
The Tagaryen's at that time followed the faith of the seven. and the Church would not permit that.
Emergency Awesome of course, thank you!
I just think they went the annulment route to make the show more simply and not delve into Targaryen marriage customs.
Sophia Wilson. Guys, there is a group on Facebook called ASOIAF/GoT Discussions & Theories. It's great and any question you have, it'll be answered.
As far as polygamy is considered, the Faith did not permit that. They also did not permit incest, but the bigger picture here is that they chose the ones they wanted to permit. They condoned the marriage of Jaehaerys I and Alysanne Targaryen. And condemned others. The objectives of the Faith and the maesters has never been clear.
when aegon the conquerer came to westeros with his 2 sister wives i dont think they followed the faith of the seven at the time. i think they were still fresh from the doom of valyria and whatever the faith the valeryians followed. it wasnt until later generations that they began following the religion more closely and even then, i think the targaryians still had plenty of incest and bastards floating around.
hey could you do a short vid about the leak
Daniel Pryor why don't you Dan-fucc off
Jor lol what
That gif of Jon Snow was hilarious! 😂😂
The Lich King will take over with Sindragosa! Oh.... I mean night king of course...
And when they kill him someone has to take his place, there must always be a Lich King...
You mean Blue eyes White Dragon...
joshneil atwal lol in that case by litch king you mean witch king of angmar (never forget Tolkien)
Ali Muhammad Its from WoW not LoTR
I'm still pretty bummed that they went with the annulment route and threw Elia Martell under the bus like that. I'm still a little confused on the exact timeline of Roberts Rebellion and which Kingsgaurd were where. GREAT footage at 7:48! Kit is so cute BTS! I heard he had to wear a harness to keep from flying off the cliff!
Jessie Philipp I got a good laugh out of him playing on the cliff. lol he's so cute. it's even cuter that he's marrying Rose in real life
nicole kidman pressured him lmao
The episodes are moving so fast now it is great! I am in agony between episodes though! Great vid Charlie
Picture the end battle guys!!!...Jon amd the night king are clashing steel and ice and as soon as jon kills the night king he also falls dead because his purpose is fulfilled and the magic keeping him alive is gone
Daniel Cormier Crying Meme Just a theory mate! But jon will definitely be the one to end the angry snowman
I wonder will my butt hurt if I sit on the Iron throne 😣
Long time watcher, first-time commenter. Thanks for the vids and the insight.
I think Charlie means new episode 6 coming today
jerome brooks nah he don't wanna get in trouble.