1) compare Chinatown restaurants to restaurants in general since the pandemic. Restaurant industry is already a high failure rate industry. Pandemic made it worse 2) Chinatown’s often are in big cities, which in general lost foot traffic. Can blame that on remote work, the higher crime rates, etc. see if the drop in foot traffic is comparable to the drop in the city 3) newer Chinese immigrants are not attracted to “Chinatowns.” As chinatowns are generally more Cantonese in culture and represent more of what China was decades ago before the country’s modern development. Chinese people coming to the US now are primarily not as Cantonese and prefer more modern dining, shopping and social experiences. That said there are many Chinese dominated cities or neighborhoods within the US with mandarin signs, or other social hubs with modern cuisines they’ll flock to. In general, the world changes.
Agreed. Many Chinese friends of mine are not from the south now, many of them are from other parts of China, and they feel like newer restaurants outside of Chinatown are better and more suitable to their taste
Also newer chinese immigrants dont exactly want chinese food when their going out unless its some insane 5-star stuff. They would rather try out different food from other cultures. Something different.
True, and not only suburbs but other parts of NYC, Brooklyn, Queens. So no need to take the subway into Manhattan if you live in one of these boroughs. San Francisco also has several Chinatowns.
@TruthTeller8888 I wish you had a better experience. I have eaten at places that were tauted as great and found them to be awful. This restaurant I went to is predictable. The food tastes the same way as all the other dishes. I was just glad it was a peaceful Christmas.
@@nelsonta00 Normal now, but back in the 80s and 90s, most the Chinese restaurants were open till 12am to 2 am in my area. Even at 1 am, the restaurants were packed. There was a busy night life. This same neighborhood now has restaurants closing by 10 pm. Times have changed.
@@nelsonta00 no chinese places have closed that early in any of the 9 or 10 cities I've lived in the US. I'm in Salt Lake now. Everything closes early here...except chinese restaurants and pizza places. Some chinese restaurants are closing at 10 now. It'll probably spread to the rest.
It’s because most young Asians have moved to the suburbs. LA’s Chinatown was only meant to be a steeping stone, a place to raise your kids so they can go to a Ivy League school then move the family to affluent places like San Marino, Arcadia, Diamond Bar, and Irvine. All of these places have large Asian shopping centers so there’s just no need to go back.
Yes Exactly my roommate in college grew up in LA Chinatown but right before highschool his family moved to San Marino. He said it was the best decision that his family did for his him and his sisters
Who shut down the restaurants during covid? who stopped prosecuting crimes in cities across America? You get what you vote for! My favorite Chinese spot in Los Angeles was a victimi of covid policies and high crime in the neighborhood.
I have a theory that Seattle was a model that all other major cities have now followed. Basically push criminals/homeless/drug addicts into Chinatowns and Koreatowns as containment centers. If they complain, say they are racist since often times it'll be a Black homeless/drug addict that does something terrible to an Asian person.
A lot of Asians like myself live in the suburbs and many of these traditional Chinatowns are located deep in urban centers. I'm not going to drive and hour into the city and go to Chinatown, instead I can go to many of these ethnic enclaves (Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, mix) shopping centers in the suburbs. The area is nicer, clean, more variety in food, and you don't have to worry about crime.
And why are you moving out there and not developing Chinatown? How does a neighborhood grow? You want your kid to grow up around white kids that are going to other them and make them self hate thinking they are wrong?
As a new Chinese immigrant, I gotta admit I’m not really drawn to Chinatown in most American cities. They don’t really represent the modern day China in any way, and they heavily favor Cantonese speakers. Canton town might be a more accurate description of these enclaves.
I see home prices in Austin, Texas, that went from $350K to $1.2 million in just 4 years. If that's on rental property, you can imaging property tax and property insurance triple, and while costs triple in 4 years, you can't triple prices of your goods in 4 years.
I usually make the miter cut at 45 degrees. If you preheat the oven the canckerdowel is not needed. Unless it’s a cross point stick. That requires squirrels to enter or float into. Disregard the tree and sparkles 👍 We get it 🇺🇸
It’s not the pandemic, it’s the change of demographics. For the last 120 years, most of the Chinese in the US and Canada were from the region of my family, that is ToiShan, Hoiping and Enping. The first wave came after the depression was in the late 1968-1973 ( we came in 1969). All of us then had family sponsors and that was when all the Chinatowns started to grow. When Taiwan got out of the UN, people from Taiwan started to come but most of them did not settle in Chinatown areas as they came more equipped ( money). In the 1990’s, people started came from mainland ( the CCP), except for NYC, most of this wave of immigrants settled in Chinatowns were from again ToiShan and Hoiping as were speak the same dialect, and most of them don’t have much money. Others from China had more money just trying to leave China. Generation like us came in the late 1960’s got educated, work in mainstream America companies and moved to the suburbs. A typical example is the SFBay area. From SF to South Bay. Within the next 29 years, Chinatowns will be like Japantowns, will get smaller and some will disappeared.
As a Chinese American I don't go to the old Chinatowns that often anymore. Finding a parking spot is always a challenge, I can easily get Asian stuff online at cheaper prices, and there are newer satellite Chinatowns with much more updated restaurants and grocery stores.
We waited for over an hour for our Chinese food (our Christmas dinner). There was a long line of people at the door, some calling, and some ordering on line, but it was totally worth the wait.
Chinatowns were created as safe havens from racism which were rampant in the pre-1940s. Following that era, many in these areas moved to suburbs or other places, and Chinatowns became less of a safe haven than they once were. In Such, there is a natural movement out, and as a result, Chinatown will end up becoming a lost remnant
Also gentrification means the rents go up, and these small business' are pushed out when they can't cover their lease anymore, these are the last remaining valuable central real estate in many city centers for developers to make over
Clueless. These centers are a place to celebrate and organize Asian Cultures. Suburbs can have their own Chinatown style communities, only smaller. The high energy of Chinese New Year needs somewhere to celebrate. That spectacle in Seattle is forever in my memory. Nothing else like it.
Also racism is pretty nonexistent, and most newer immigrants move cus they wanna explore the domestic culture rather than be enclaves in it. Its a shift in that aswell.
As a chinese who lives in Seattle over 6 years, I don't mind to eat taco everynight instead as it is more easier, healthier and faster. Plus that parking in chinatown is extremely difficult any time throughout the day and super dangerous as where locates in a notorious part of city. No needs to take the risk for a meal.
I still live in San Francisco but not inside Chinatown. When I was working, I go to Chinatown during my lunchtime since my office is on the edge of Chinatown. Ever since I was forced to retire, I only go to Chinatown once a month. The district that I currently live has almost every thing what Chinatown has to offer. In the past Chinatown was cheaper than my neighborhood Chinese grocery stores. After the pandemic there is not much difference in pricing.
The Chinatown in Las Vegas is blowing up….typical wait times even mid week can be up to 2 hours at many locations, new restaurants and stores opening up almost monthly.
Las Vegas Chinatown is honestly the biggest Chinatown I’ve ever been to. It’s unlike any-other, and more Asian-Americans are moving from California or Asian immigrants moving straight to Nevada (instead of California). Almost all of Spring Valley is essentially Chinatown now.
Come to Toronto. I don’t even know if we have a Chinatown anymore. Chinese restaurants and stores are across the entire city and suburbs. Some streets are bilingual with English and Chinese.
I met a chinese-american couple vacationing in China in April 2024. They live close to SF, about a half hour drive from SF Chinatown. They said they won't go to SF Chinatown as they don't feel safe.
Not all Chinatowns are busy or slow. It depends on geographic locations. Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York have lost lots of legacy business because rampant crimes and high cost of rents along with labor cost. These are factors contributed by bad public policy by city officials in local government
In Houston Metropolitan Area, its quite the opposite. It's gotten so big that new pockets of Chinatown has expanded to the suburbs. Places like Katy Asiatown is blowing up, while Bellaire Chinatown is still busier than ever. There's also the rapid expansion on Westheimer and a new Asiatown being developed in Pearland.
Yes, but Bellaire and Houston in general does not capture the traditional Chinatown feel. Everything is a strip mall with no open air markets or an actual community that lives there. Only the store signs give it away otherwise you wouldn't know it was Chinatown.
@@calvinmak2547 sure if you only care for the visual appearance of a building, but all the cultural aspect is still there. We use to have those visuals back in the day before OG Chinatown relocated to Bellaire.
@@calvinmak2547hey Calvin. If you visit China today, you’ll see mall after mall. That said, the size of our malls don’t even come close to theirs…you have to see it to understand… As for traditional architecture, in China there is some of that standing obviously but the CCP is very focused on modernizing. Unless if it is a historic neighborhood with tourists, older buildings will often be removed to make way for newer ones. I’m just saying this because I used to think like you. My gf (now wife) at the time wasn’t impressed with chinatowns at all and I couldn’t understand until I stepped into her world
@@yoomsuu that's not a Chinatown. It's a small shopping center based around a grocery store. Also, it's not a grocery store I'd give money to if you look into how they've neglected to pay their workers. RF is right next door, and Ocean Mart are great alternatives.
I know a Chinese restaurant owner. They said it’s tough mainly for 2 reasons, the increase in goods, ingredients and rent but one thing that the article doesn’t touch on is the labor and Chinese tourists. More specifically, labor from China and Asian countries. It’s difficult for Chinese people to come from China to work in the US now who know how to do the traditional cooking related to the food. Also, people have a tendency to gravitate to things that are familiar. No chinese tourist mean fewer people wanting their favorite foods.
Asian hate, cost of living, work from home, people moving far away from city hubs. What did you expect to happen? I'm planning to go to a Chinese restaurant since I'm alone and its odd making a Christmas dinner in the middle of what still is a work week. Not in the mood tire myself. Ultimately, the only way to end this doldrum is to end work from home. Mandatory back in the office. In fact, they should change work hours to 50 hour weeks to make up for the lost period. This will revive the cities and downtowns again.
Like the start of the Internet age, e-commerce, and now social media a lot of dynamics have changed in the economy including shopping, eating out, going to the movies, socializing, etc. Work from home is the same. It’s another shift in society that has both economic benefits and drawbacks. Change is inevitable. Work from home should stay in place on a hybrid (2-3x a week in office requirement only) schedule.
@ Not everything related to the Internet and digital lifestyle should be permitted. It’s f’ing up the economy. When automation and AI becomes good enough, I hope you are ready for when your overlords tell you we don’t need you anymore. If you look at how smartphones have messed up our youth, kids don’t go aside and play and interact anymore. We are creating a very unhealthy society of the future. I wish someone release a digital virus that would render all devices useless for 20 years so we could go back to basics.
there's at least 3 china towns in NYC if you don't count the 2 smaller ones in Brooklyn, the aging population of the one in Manhattan is the real cause. Chinese people just moved to Brooklyn and Queens for the last 3 decades. The China town didn't die, it just moved to other neighborhoods. This video sounded like the pandemic killed the China town, it didn't and has little to do with it. This is something that every Chinese lives in NYC for the last 30 years can tell you.
On average, restaurants in the NYC Chinatown are simply not as good as those in other parts of New York, from the Flushing in Queens, Brooklyn’s Sunset Park, to even midtown Manhattan.
I lived in Huntington Beach at around 8 years of age. Months every now and then, Dad would leave house very early in the morning and drive to the Chinatown of Los Angeles. Just in time for lunch he would arrive with those iconic paper boxes of Chinese food. One of the best things living there at that time.
Chinatown isn't the only place in NYC that's struggling. You can thank the state's liberal policies, Chinatowns in other parts of the country are doing just fine.
This. My family used to go to the manhattan chinatown all the time but now they rarely go. It is a shadow of itself from even a decade ago and has even furthered gentrify from even then. It really is in a depressing state.
The main root cause is that they depended on the Chinese from China. Now China's economy is in deteriorated situation, now these restaurants feel in pain. Chinese food are not as popular as Japanese restaurants.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Most Chinatowns are usually for local Chinese American citizens. A few like the one in SF is more of a tourist attraction. So to say the root cause is due to mainland Chinese is a far fetch theory. Most are due to rise in crime where people don’t feel safe going anymore. And more smaller mom and pop grocery stores are opening up deeper in the suburbs where then people don’t feel the need to go to Chinatown to get their usual Asian grocery items.
Maybe the “traditional” Chinatown. But, new Asian/Chinese enclaves are popping up all the NyC metro area. For example, the Chinatown in Manhattan has shrunk, just like its neighbor Little Italy. But, the new Chinatowns in Flushing and Sunset Park are busier than ever. And new Asian strip malls and businesses are opening up all the time out in Long Island. There is a huge move into the suburbs. I’m guessing for the schools. Whole neighborhoods have changed over the last 10 years, moving from mostly white to mostly Asian due to Asians pursuing better school options.
Most Chinese now live and shop in the enclaves instead of the traditional Chinatowns. In LA, it's San Gabriel Valley. In the Bay Area, it's Fremont, Cupertino, Millbrae, Milpitas, etc.
La Chinatown is pretty dirty I wouldn’t eat a meal there,I work in ktown, it’s full of clown world NPC’s and filthy as well. I ask myself daily why anyone would want to leave beautiful Korea and move there. It has to be for the money and American benefits.
I will answer this one… I saw the same thing you did when I went to Korea for my first vacation. After being here more then 4 times now and also being in other countries in Asia and Europe, it may look prettier and more well kept, but don’t let that fool you.. Korean society is super competitive and very hard to find a job in. Although US is dingy, dirty, we still have the most promise of finding a good job and good opportunity. And Asians are taking advantage of that in droves because us Americans are too lazy to study and get the good paying tech jobs…
I don't eat at Chinese restaurants because i don't like steel wool pads and glass in my food. I just can't take 1 more instance from some random Chinese food place, where i find non-food items in my food, this NEVER happens at any other type of restaurant i go, ONLY Chinese food places. I don't think it's racist, its more for the interest of health and wallet, to NEVER eat at a Chinese food restaurant ever again.
Chinatown is following the way of Little Italy. The Chinese will move to the suburbs like the Italians did and then Chinatown will become a tourist spot which it is already becoming. The Chinese in NYC used to depend on Chinatown to hook them up with employment but that is no longer needed because now that's being done online through apps. The relevance of Chinatown is becoming less and less as new immigrants depend on it less and less. The kids of these Chinese immigrants also got older and they want to move to the outer boroughs or a nice suburb in Jersey or Long Island.
This is so sad. Are local Chinese restaurant out of the blue closed I didnt know why since their food and service was always great. I assumed it was Trumps threats of deporting people that were immigrants illegally or on asylum but costs definetly play a big role as well since food has become so costly and so has the rent. Trump says he will lower prices but talk is cheap I wont believe it till I SEE it. 👀
It’s a foot traffic problem we have the same problem here in Australia Melbourne. It’s too much of a hassle to go to. They should close the road off to traffic at 10am to 8pm. Then it will be a great place to walk and get around. It’s too crowded and just not what you want to deal with it.
Chinatowns are from a bygone era, when Chinese faced discrimination and had no choice but to be forced into them, because they were banned from everywhere else. People have more options today.
Such a shame. I remember when I was little, it was a special occasion to go eat at a Chinese restaurant in Chinatown (NY and DC.) Sure there are also Chinese restaurants that were good (maybe even better) in the suburbs where I lived, but it was the vibes and the experience that made going to Chinatown special. I live in a coastal city in Orange County, CA now. Soooo many Asian enclaves in this area that it's not worth the risk of going to Chinatown in LA. So, I guess what everyone else is saying about the spread of Chinatown from the city to the suburbs as conducive of the migration of the enclaves into the suburbs is correct.
Our history the history of America is deeply rooted in East Asian Americans yet as a country we have treated them like third class citizens. It boggles my mind that we have failed to make America a vibrant and welcoming place for this community across our cities while literally giving and bestowing that privilege to other communities that haven’t sacrifice and given to this country a fraction of what this community has given and endured. It’s quite un-American and appalling what we have and have not done.
Nearly all Chinese restaurant's took a huge hit in food quality during and after the Pandemic. A spot I used to go to for years won't even heat up their Sweet & Sour sauce and serves it cold. The Eggs rolls are now more than twice as small, but more than twice as expensive Vs. pre Pandemic. Rice now tastes like's it's been sitting out for days. 🤢
Chinese cooking is a craftmanship. It’s so hard and so complicated and menu is so wide. source materials are so hard to get. Like any craftsmanship, it’s dying if you can’t have the crowd appreciating the craftsmanship. As for small china town gift shops, they are replaced by Temu, amazon and walmart. I don’t think they have a way to make out. US customers are more like burger eaters. They can’t appreciate the chinese cooking craftsmanship. I barely went to a Chinese restaurant in the last a few years. #1, my cooking skills are better than some of those. #2, because of the covid, environment and wait time, I’d rather stay home. #3, this one’s killing. I don’t have a big circle or events to celebrate at chinese restaurant. It’s dying because Asian, especially Chinese populations and visiting populations from China are declining. My rentals barely has a single chinese vistors this year, while we had 10s and 20s vistors in previous years from china.
Just like the "China Town" in Houston. I've seen more chinese people here in washington state going to costco than I ever saw in Houston's "China town".
We are still feeling the economic effects of the pandemic. Its one of the reasons cost of living is outta controll.The city should have a law to set rents for business over 75 years old so we dont lose them.
I was thinking of ordering a dish from a Chinese Restaurant for delivery and it's just too expensive. I grew up in Hollywood. My father was a professional musician and loved taking us to Chinese Restaurants.
I’m from the Lower East Side of Manhattan (born 92). Neighborhoods change…if you were to ask my great grandparents when that area looked like in 1899 when they arrived they would tell you Jewish and Italian. When I was growing up the Chinese started buying all of the old Italian businesses and property. The Chinese community there is very insular and it’s catching up to them. When their people move they lose regular clients.
WHERE ARE THE BREAKS?! Increased rent with homes, apartments and businesses, increased crime, less foot traffic, more taxes and/or insanely expensive taxes. WE AS A PEOPLE LEGIT HAVE NO LEEWAY! Mental health is expensive, if I get injured due to someone else’s dumbassery I shouldn’t have to suffer. It’s just so many avenues in America THAT WE NEED TO REPAVE! Work, eat, kinda sleep, die! It’s not healthy in anyway. We are going backwards as a society. If I believe what republicans say Trump will take care of. Then we should not still be living like this in 4 years.
I used to go to Chinatown, when I was younger the 90s and early 2000s were the absolute best and the food were made with passion and hard work. It was cheap and delicious, just remembered the best roast duck, egg rolls were bigger, fried rice was amazing and food quality was amazing. Now it's not as good as it once before, smaller portions and lower quality and more aggressive servers it ruined the experience for my me and my family. So we went to a Filipino restaurant instead.
The US is dealing with a declining chinese students inflow and many chinese nationals moving out of big cities due to remote work and inflation. So these factors kinda take a good % of their core customers, then you factor in homeless and crimes in these areas, it’s just not worth it for some of them to keep the door open.
Not true…some are thriving while others are not. For example, Chinatown in Manhattan is not doing well compared to flushing Chinatown. Flushing Chinatown is now bigger than manhattan Chinatown
This has happened to various "Ethnic Towns" all over the country as the second generation assimilates into general American society. I do miss the German Towns and Italian and Ukrainian Villages, etc. of where I grew up, but that is just the way it is.
Chinatown are somehow always being zoned in not so nice part of town, especially historical Chinatowns with good restaurants are always in big blue cities where there's lots of crime nowadays. In Chinese social media we see weekly stabbing, robbery, car breakin stories and my wife is too afraid to go there anymore. It's pretty sad since there are some very good resultants and fair price grocery stores. However every time walking by these places there are tons of homeless, drug addicts, people selling stolen goods and asking for money...
I would like to see the Chinatown comparisons between Democrat areas vs normal American areas. You might find a common thread that’s not necessarily Asian
1) compare Chinatown restaurants to restaurants in general since the pandemic. Restaurant industry is already a high failure rate industry. Pandemic made it worse
2) Chinatown’s often are in big cities, which in general lost foot traffic. Can blame that on remote work, the higher crime rates, etc. see if the drop in foot traffic is comparable to the drop in the city
3) newer Chinese immigrants are not attracted to “Chinatowns.” As chinatowns are generally more Cantonese in culture and represent more of what China was decades ago before the country’s modern development. Chinese people coming to the US now are primarily not as Cantonese and prefer more modern dining, shopping and social experiences. That said there are many Chinese dominated cities or neighborhoods within the US with mandarin signs, or other social hubs with modern cuisines they’ll flock to.
In general, the world changes.
Agreed. Many Chinese friends of mine are not from the south now, many of them are from other parts of China, and they feel like newer restaurants outside of Chinatown are better and more suitable to their taste
What a thorough analysis!
@@TruthTeller8888they eat possums and roadkill. Still marry them cousins.😂
Also newer chinese immigrants dont exactly want chinese food when their going out unless its some insane 5-star stuff.
They would rather try out different food from other cultures. Something different.
Flushing, NY
Chinatown isn't necessarily going away completely, many Chinese businesses have moved into suburbs and have created new "Asian" commercial clusters.
But the authenticity is gone.
That’s not a Chinatown
@@luckarlI hope Chinese American cuisine wouldn't fade faster
True, and not only suburbs but other parts of NYC, Brooklyn, Queens. So no need to take the subway into Manhattan if you live in one of these boroughs.
San Francisco also has several Chinatowns.
We had Chinese food this night. It was so good. The owners and staff allows are very nice, polite, and so thoughtful. We love our friends there.
Hope they dont serve u weird meat
@CaitliParker I ate one time by mistake.. food was gross .. staff rude as 💩
@TruthTeller8888 I wish you had a better experience. I have eaten at places that were tauted as great and found them to be awful. This restaurant I went to is predictable. The food tastes the same way as all the other dishes. I was just glad it was a peaceful Christmas.
@ yeah .. I stay away from China town
Closing at 7:30pm versus 12am? Could it be the crime and fear of violence by the owners and customers? 🤔
Its actually normal to close by 8pm for chinese folks.
my neighborhood is really quiet by 8pm.
@@nelsonta00 Normal now, but back in the 80s and 90s, most the Chinese restaurants were open till 12am to 2 am in my area. Even at 1 am, the restaurants were packed. There was a busy night life. This same neighborhood now has restaurants closing by 10 pm. Times have changed.
@@nelsonta00 no chinese places have closed that early in any of the 9 or 10 cities I've lived in the US. I'm in Salt Lake now. Everything closes early here...except chinese restaurants and pizza places. Some chinese restaurants are closing at 10 now. It'll probably spread to the rest.
In China, you need chainmail armour. It’s real stabby over there
It’s because most young Asians have moved to the suburbs. LA’s Chinatown was only meant to be a steeping stone, a place to raise your kids so they can go to a Ivy League school then move the family to affluent places like San Marino, Arcadia, Diamond Bar, and Irvine. All of these places have large Asian shopping centers so there’s just no need to go back.
Not true at all.
unfortunately true
Yes Exactly my roommate in college grew up in LA Chinatown but right before highschool his family moved to San Marino. He said it was the best decision that his family did for his him and his sisters
True probably only for Los Angeles.
Who shut down the restaurants during covid? who stopped prosecuting crimes in cities across America? You get what you vote for! My favorite Chinese spot in Los Angeles was a victimi of covid policies and high crime in the neighborhood.
Seattle had abandoned their Chinatown & international district to drug addicts. Just look at little Saigon, they had to close bus stops due to danger.
I have a theory that Seattle was a model that all other major cities have now followed. Basically push criminals/homeless/drug addicts into Chinatowns and Koreatowns as containment centers. If they complain, say they are racist since often times it'll be a Black homeless/drug addict that does something terrible to an Asian person.
A lot of Asians like myself live in the suburbs and many of these traditional Chinatowns are located deep in urban centers. I'm not going to drive and hour into the city and go to Chinatown, instead I can go to many of these ethnic enclaves (Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, mix) shopping centers in the suburbs. The area is nicer, clean, more variety in food, and you don't have to worry about crime.
And why are you moving out there and not developing Chinatown? How does a neighborhood grow? You want your kid to grow up around white kids that are going to other them and make them self hate thinking they are wrong?
@@kc_1018 it's definitely not the same everywhere. But crime is big cities is often lower when you account for crime relative to population.
As a new Chinese immigrant, I gotta admit I’m not really drawn to Chinatown in most American cities. They don’t really represent the modern day China in any way, and they heavily favor Cantonese speakers. Canton town might be a more accurate description of these enclaves.
Many of the workers are either Fujian or latino. 学习汉语里饭馆很难
I see home prices in Austin, Texas, that went from $350K to $1.2 million in just 4 years. If that's on rental property, you can imaging property tax and property insurance triple, and while costs triple in 4 years, you can't triple prices of your goods in 4 years.
I usually make the miter cut at 45 degrees.
If you preheat the oven the canckerdowel is not needed. Unless it’s a cross point stick.
That requires squirrels to enter or float into.
Disregard the tree and sparkles 👍
We get it 🇺🇸
@@guybeingaguy So, you are a bot? A Russian bot?
Lol try canada. $400k to $3M in 4 years.
Its brainrot here
@@guybeingaguy bot? Russian bot?
It’s not the pandemic, it’s the change of demographics. For the last 120 years, most of the Chinese in the US and Canada were from the region of my family, that is ToiShan, Hoiping and Enping. The first wave came after the depression was in the late 1968-1973 ( we came in 1969). All of us then had family sponsors and that was when all the Chinatowns started to grow. When Taiwan got out of the UN, people from Taiwan started to come but most of them did not settle in Chinatown areas as they came more equipped ( money). In the 1990’s, people started came from mainland ( the CCP), except for NYC, most of this wave of immigrants settled in Chinatowns were from again ToiShan and Hoiping as were speak the same dialect, and most of them don’t have much money. Others from China had more money just trying to leave China. Generation like us came in the late 1960’s got educated, work in mainstream America companies and moved to the suburbs. A typical example is the SFBay area. From SF to South Bay. Within the next 29 years, Chinatowns will be like Japantowns, will get smaller and some will disappeared.
It was the pandemic. SF's Chinatown was bustling until covid. It's never recovered.
This is not the history Channel
Ktown in LA is thriving.
As a Chinese American I don't go to the old Chinatowns that often anymore. Finding a parking spot is always a challenge, I can easily get Asian stuff online at cheaper prices, and there are newer satellite Chinatowns with much more updated restaurants and grocery stores.
Support local businesses. I boycott amazon for this reason.
We waited for over an hour for our Chinese food (our Christmas dinner). There was a long line of people at the door, some calling, and some ordering on line, but it was totally worth the wait.
demographics shifted just like what happen to little Italy
Now you are gonna see Little Venezuelas pop up everywhere.
@@Placebo___ for good.. we don’t need more drone pilots 😅
Chinatowns were created as safe havens from racism which were rampant in the pre-1940s.
Following that era, many in these areas moved to suburbs or other places, and Chinatowns became less of a safe haven than they once were. In Such, there is a natural movement out, and as a result, Chinatown will end up becoming a lost remnant
Also gentrification means the rents go up, and these small business' are pushed out when they can't cover their lease anymore, these are the last remaining valuable central real estate in many city centers for developers to make over
Yellow Peril rhetoric is alive and well today.
Clueless. These centers are a place to celebrate and organize Asian Cultures. Suburbs can have their own Chinatown style communities, only smaller. The high energy of Chinese New Year needs somewhere to celebrate. That spectacle in Seattle is forever in my memory. Nothing else like it.
Also racism is pretty nonexistent, and most newer immigrants move cus they wanna explore the domestic culture rather than be enclaves in it.
Its a shift in that aswell.
The problem is Americans think PF Chang and Panda Express are Chinese food.
What do you mean?
@@ManChan-w5p those aren't real Chinese food. It's like calling Hawaiian Pizza Italian food.
Both were founded by American Chinese!
@@Nabrolo Both were founded by Chinese, same as with Italian immigrants, who stated Italian eateries in America!
@@Nabrolo You know what's real? Benjamin Franklins.
As a chinese who lives in Seattle over 6 years, I don't mind to eat taco everynight instead as it is more easier, healthier and faster. Plus that parking in chinatown is extremely difficult any time throughout the day and super dangerous as where locates in a notorious part of city. No needs to take the risk for a meal.
I still live in San Francisco but not inside Chinatown. When I was working, I go to Chinatown during my lunchtime since my office is on the edge of Chinatown. Ever since I was forced to retire, I only go to Chinatown once a month. The district that I currently live has almost every thing what Chinatown has to offer. In the past Chinatown was cheaper than my neighborhood Chinese grocery stores. After the pandemic there is not much difference in pricing.
I'm sorry but I blame Trump for this. I don't know why, but everything else is his fault so I guess somehow so is this.
The Chinatown in Las Vegas is blowing up….typical wait times even mid week can be up to 2 hours at many locations, new restaurants and stores opening up almost monthly.
Las Vegas Chinatown is honestly the biggest Chinatown I’ve ever been to. It’s unlike any-other, and more Asian-Americans are moving from California or Asian immigrants moving straight to Nevada (instead of California). Almost all of Spring Valley is essentially Chinatown now.
Yeah I was just in Chinatown Las Vegas on Sunday and there's never parking. It's always bumping no matter what time of day.
@@JP-eo8xb You've never been to New York then. Been to Vegas does not come even close to NYC
Come to Toronto. I don’t even know if we have a Chinatown anymore. Chinese restaurants and stores are across the entire city and suburbs. Some streets are bilingual with English and Chinese.
All of the Asians are tired of Newsom and Pelosi and being victims of hate crimes and are moving to Nevada.
The video makes no mention of the crime in these Chinatowns. Honolulu's Chinatown is no different.
Food quality is degrading while the price is going up and up. That's the reasn.
@@dannyhk2504 there was no quality ever…
I met a chinese-american couple vacationing in China in April 2024. They live close to SF, about a half hour drive from SF Chinatown.
They said they won't go to SF Chinatown as they don't feel safe.
To Bad has such historical significance
Not all Chinatowns are busy or slow. It depends on geographic locations. Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York have lost lots of legacy business because rampant crimes and high cost of rents along with labor cost. These are factors contributed by bad public policy by city officials in local government
In Houston Metropolitan Area, its quite the opposite. It's gotten so big that new pockets of Chinatown has expanded to the suburbs. Places like Katy Asiatown is blowing up, while Bellaire Chinatown is still busier than ever. There's also the rapid expansion on Westheimer and a new Asiatown being developed in Pearland.
Yes, but Bellaire and Houston in general does not capture the traditional Chinatown feel. Everything is a strip mall with no open air markets or an actual community that lives there. Only the store signs give it away otherwise you wouldn't know it was Chinatown.
@@calvinmak2547 sure if you only care for the visual appearance of a building, but all the cultural aspect is still there. We use to have those visuals back in the day before OG Chinatown relocated to Bellaire.
@@calvinmak2547hey Calvin. If you visit China today, you’ll see mall after mall. That said, the size of our malls don’t even come close to theirs…you have to see it to understand…
As for traditional architecture, in China there is some of that standing obviously but the CCP is very focused on modernizing. Unless if it is a historic neighborhood with tourists, older buildings will often be removed to make way for newer ones.
I’m just saying this because I used to think like you. My gf (now wife) at the time wasn’t impressed with chinatowns at all and I couldn’t understand until I stepped into her world
The Chinatown in Utah is super busy all the freaking time. 😭 I guess its different here.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 and happy new year 🎊🎈🎆 my Chinese brothers and sisters across the world 🌍
Our Chinatown is nowhere near as big as elsewhere though.
What else is there to go in Utah?
@@yoomsuu that's not a Chinatown. It's a small shopping center based around a grocery store. Also, it's not a grocery store I'd give money to if you look into how they've neglected to pay their workers. RF is right next door, and Ocean Mart are great alternatives.
@@Digimonisbetterthanpokemon it's not a Chinatown at all
I know a Chinese restaurant owner. They said it’s tough mainly for 2 reasons, the increase in goods, ingredients and rent but one thing that the article doesn’t touch on is the labor and Chinese tourists. More specifically, labor from China and Asian countries. It’s difficult for Chinese people to come from China to work in the US now who know how to do the traditional cooking related to the food. Also, people have a tendency to gravitate to things that are familiar. No chinese tourist mean fewer people wanting their favorite foods.
Asian hate, cost of living, work from home, people moving far away from city hubs. What did you expect to happen? I'm planning to go to a Chinese restaurant since I'm alone and its odd making a Christmas dinner in the middle of what still is a work week. Not in the mood tire myself. Ultimately, the only way to end this doldrum is to end work from home. Mandatory back in the office. In fact, they should change work hours to 50 hour weeks to make up for the lost period. This will revive the cities and downtowns again.
Like the start of the Internet age, e-commerce, and now social media a lot of dynamics have changed in the economy including shopping, eating out, going to the movies, socializing, etc. Work from home is the same. It’s another shift in society that has both economic benefits and drawbacks. Change is inevitable. Work from home should stay in place on a hybrid (2-3x a week in office requirement only) schedule.
@ Not everything related to the Internet and digital lifestyle should be permitted. It’s f’ing up the economy. When automation and AI becomes good enough, I hope you are ready for when your overlords tell you we don’t need you anymore. If you look at how smartphones have messed up our youth, kids don’t go aside and play and interact anymore. We are creating a very unhealthy society of the future. I wish someone release a digital virus that would render all devices useless for 20 years so we could go back to basics.
@@EnronnSierra hygiene after knowing bat scandal
For me, it's not just Chinatown but across many restaurants; it's the rise in cost (40%-100%) with drop in quality...
Right it’s 20 dollars for a decent sized burger and a small nugget at Wendy’s
Just had 2 buffets, and 2 ice teas...$39. It's the economy.
there's at least 3 china towns in NYC if you don't count the 2 smaller ones in Brooklyn, the aging population of the one in Manhattan is the real cause. Chinese people just moved to Brooklyn and Queens for the last 3 decades. The China town didn't die, it just moved to other neighborhoods. This video sounded like the pandemic killed the China town, it didn't and has little to do with it. This is something that every Chinese lives in NYC for the last 30 years can tell you.
On average, restaurants in the NYC Chinatown are simply not as good as those in other parts of New York, from the Flushing in Queens, Brooklyn’s Sunset Park, to even midtown Manhattan.
Yeah, I don't know what happened
New York actually includes tens of thousands of other square miles.
“Modernizing and accepting credit cards”. That made me laugh.
I lived in Huntington Beach at around 8 years of age. Months every now and then, Dad would leave house very early in the morning and drive to the Chinatown of Los Angeles. Just in time for lunch he would arrive with those iconic paper boxes of Chinese food. One of the best things living there at that time.
Chinatown isn't the only place in NYC that's struggling. You can thank the state's liberal policies, Chinatowns in other parts of the country are doing just fine.
When the chinese property owners gentrify chinatown to try to line their own pockets, its businesses will suffer or close completely 😅
This. My family used to go to the manhattan chinatown all the time but now they rarely go. It is a shadow of itself from even a decade ago and has even furthered gentrify from even then. It really is in a depressing state.
The main root cause is that they depended on the Chinese from China. Now China's economy is in deteriorated situation, now these restaurants feel in pain. Chinese food are not as popular as Japanese restaurants.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Most Chinatowns are usually for local Chinese American citizens. A few like the one in SF is more of a tourist attraction. So to say the root cause is due to mainland Chinese is a far fetch theory. Most are due to rise in crime where people don’t feel safe going anymore. And more smaller mom and pop grocery stores are opening up deeper in the suburbs where then people don’t feel the need to go to Chinatown to get their usual Asian grocery items.
Not here
I would stay away from sushi gross
Most chinatowns across North America serve the same food as they did 40 years ago. The real modern chinese restaurants usually locate elsewhere.
Restaurants of all kinds have gone way down hill the food is usually sub par the service sucks and the price is higher than ever before
Half the time you feel extorted into tipping. If you can't afford to tip, take your business elsewhere, and many do.
Maybe the “traditional” Chinatown. But, new Asian/Chinese enclaves are popping up all the NyC metro area. For example, the Chinatown in Manhattan has shrunk, just like its neighbor Little Italy. But, the new Chinatowns in Flushing and Sunset Park are busier than ever. And new Asian strip malls and businesses are opening up all the time out in Long Island. There is a huge move into the suburbs. I’m guessing for the schools. Whole neighborhoods have changed over the last 10 years, moving from mostly white to mostly Asian due to Asians pursuing better school options.
Most Chinese now live and shop in the enclaves instead of the traditional Chinatowns. In LA, it's San Gabriel Valley. In the Bay Area, it's Fremont, Cupertino, Millbrae, Milpitas, etc.
La Chinatown is pretty dirty I wouldn’t eat a meal there,I work in ktown, it’s full of clown world NPC’s and filthy as well. I ask myself daily why anyone would want to leave beautiful Korea and move there. It has to be for the money and American benefits.
@@letsgowalk lets see how many remain after deportation 😅
I will answer this one… I saw the same thing you did when I went to Korea for my first vacation. After being here more then 4 times now and also being in other countries in Asia and Europe, it may look prettier and more well kept, but don’t let that fool you.. Korean society is super competitive and very hard to find a job in. Although US is dingy, dirty, we still have the most promise of finding a good job and good opportunity. And Asians are taking advantage of that in droves because us Americans are too lazy to study and get the good paying tech jobs…
I don't eat at Chinese restaurants because i don't like steel wool pads and glass in my food. I just can't take 1 more instance from some random Chinese food place, where i find non-food items in my food, this NEVER happens at any other type of restaurant i go, ONLY Chinese food places. I don't think it's racist, its more for the interest of health and wallet, to NEVER eat at a Chinese food restaurant ever again.
Once 3rd or 4th gen takes over - its over.
Because its a lot of hard work
Chinatown is following the way of Little Italy. The Chinese will move to the suburbs like the Italians did and then Chinatown will become a tourist spot which it is already becoming. The Chinese in NYC used to depend on Chinatown to hook them up with employment but that is no longer needed because now that's being done online through apps. The relevance of Chinatown is becoming less and less as new immigrants depend on it less and less. The kids of these Chinese immigrants also got older and they want to move to the outer boroughs or a nice suburb in Jersey or Long Island.
Come on no one goes to Chinatown for Chinese food anymore. The real Chinese foods are within a small suburb or a community within a city.
This is so sad. Are local Chinese restaurant out of the blue closed I didnt know why since their food and service was always great. I assumed it was Trumps threats of deporting people that were immigrants illegally or on asylum but costs definetly play a big role as well since food has become so costly and so has the rent. Trump says he will lower prices but talk is cheap I wont believe it till I SEE it. 👀
It’s a foot traffic problem we have the same problem here in Australia Melbourne. It’s too much of a hassle to go to. They should close the road off to traffic at 10am to 8pm. Then it will be a great place to walk and get around. It’s too crowded and just not what you want to deal with it.
SF Chinatown was some of my fondest childhood memories back in the 80s and 90s.
Chinatowns are from a bygone era, when Chinese faced discrimination and had no choice but to be forced into them, because they were banned from everywhere else. People have more options today.
We ate at a Chinese restaurant today. They were fairly busy to. It was nice to get away
Such a shame.
I remember when I was little, it was a special occasion to go eat at a Chinese restaurant in Chinatown (NY and DC.)
Sure there are also Chinese restaurants that were good (maybe even better) in the suburbs where I lived, but it was the vibes and the experience that made going to Chinatown special.
I live in a coastal city in Orange County, CA now.
Soooo many Asian enclaves in this area that it's not worth the risk of going to Chinatown in LA.
So, I guess what everyone else is saying about the spread of Chinatown from the city to the suburbs as conducive of the migration of the enclaves into the suburbs is correct.
Our history the history of America is deeply rooted in East Asian Americans yet as a country we have treated them like third class citizens. It boggles my mind that we have failed to make America a vibrant and welcoming place for this community across our cities while literally giving and bestowing that privilege to other communities that haven’t sacrifice and given to this country a fraction of what this community has given and endured. It’s quite un-American and appalling what we have and have not done.
The tax breaks weren’t enough I guess
What are talking about?...
@@Colleen-pr3qh deeply rooted in east asian 😅😅
Nearly all Chinese restaurant's took a huge hit in food quality during and after the Pandemic. A spot I used to go to for years won't even heat up their Sweet & Sour sauce and serves it cold. The Eggs rolls are now more than twice as small, but more than twice as expensive Vs. pre Pandemic. Rice now tastes like's it's been sitting out for days. 🤢
@@Salty.Peasants they never had quality.. and god knows what meat is there😅
Chinese cooking is a craftmanship. It’s so hard and so complicated and menu is so wide. source materials are so hard to get. Like any craftsmanship, it’s dying if you can’t have the crowd appreciating the craftsmanship. As for small china town gift shops, they are replaced by Temu, amazon and walmart. I don’t think they have a way to make out. US customers are more like burger eaters. They can’t appreciate the chinese cooking craftsmanship. I barely went to a Chinese restaurant in the last a few years. #1, my cooking skills are better than some of those. #2, because of the covid, environment and wait time, I’d rather stay home. #3, this one’s killing. I don’t have a big circle or events to celebrate at chinese restaurant. It’s dying because Asian, especially Chinese populations and visiting populations from China are declining. My rentals barely has a single chinese vistors this year, while we had 10s and 20s vistors in previous years from china.
They should rename the chinatown in Honolulu, HI to "Little Saigon" or "Vietnam Town" since all the businesses there are now Vietnamese.
The PC approach is the 'International District' which is one way it is referred to in Seattle.
You need to check if the people from Vietnam are Chinese ethnics. If they identify themselves Chinese, they are Chinese.
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Should rename it to crackville
@@willsama8134 Sounds like your home town.
Just like the "China Town" in Houston. I've seen more chinese people here in washington state going to costco than I ever saw in Houston's "China town".
We are still feeling the economic effects of the pandemic. Its one of the reasons cost of living is outta controll.The city should have a law to set rents for business over 75 years old so we dont lose them.
I was thinking of ordering a dish from a Chinese Restaurant for delivery and it's just too expensive. I grew up in Hollywood. My father was a professional musician and loved taking us to Chinese Restaurants.
I’m from the Lower East Side of Manhattan (born 92). Neighborhoods change…if you were to ask my great grandparents when that area looked like in 1899 when they arrived they would tell you Jewish and Italian. When I was growing up the Chinese started buying all of the old Italian businesses and property.
The Chinese community there is very insular and it’s catching up to them. When their people move they lose regular clients.
And they keep voting for democrats 😅
Just sitting here patiently waiting for the racist trolls to come on.
They eating the 🐕
@@fr2ncm9 some bats 🦇 😅😅
Thank your lawmakers
I avoid chinatown like a plague. We live suburbs now.
Las Vegas Chinatown is exploding and tourists are now starting to discover how amazing it is
NYC ‘s Chinatown is now in Flushing, Queens.
because of food quality , Chinese food taste good with bad quality
According to Biden and his administration everything is fine....
Yes, record highs in spending. People have been going shopping all year long for 4 years lol
Looked for this troll- so Biden was in charge of the supply chain?
“Corruption is RAMPANT in China!” -Victor Gao, August 2024 in front of a live international audience.
Even here in Thailand, people avoided Chinese restaurants when the virus broke out.
That is ignorant. Nothing yo be proud of.
@luckarl What language do you speak? "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" - Chris Tucker
that's a common thing these days for restaurant business
Restaurants are a bad business to open to begin with
Many small businesses lost customers due to the pandemic. My micro business suffered greatly. 😮
WHERE ARE THE BREAKS?! Increased rent with homes, apartments and businesses, increased crime, less foot traffic, more taxes and/or insanely expensive taxes. WE AS A PEOPLE LEGIT HAVE NO LEEWAY! Mental health is expensive, if I get injured due to someone else’s dumbassery I shouldn’t have to suffer. It’s just so many avenues in America THAT WE NEED TO REPAVE! Work, eat, kinda sleep, die! It’s not healthy in anyway. We are going backwards as a society. If I believe what republicans say Trump will take care of. Then we should not still be living like this in 4 years.
Because people don't care about food, they care about wearing the most expensive clothes lol
I used to go to Chinatown, when I was younger the 90s and early 2000s were the absolute best and the food were made with passion and hard work. It was cheap and delicious, just remembered the best roast duck, egg rolls were bigger, fried rice was amazing and food quality was amazing.
Now it's not as good as it once before, smaller portions and lower quality and more aggressive servers it ruined the experience for my me and my family. So we went to a Filipino restaurant instead.
Forget it, Jake. Its post 2020 Chinatown.
Chinese Food hasn't been the same in 15 years. Its gotten even worse over the last 6 years.
Some of the quality has went down mixed with attitudes has been a deterrent
My family always eat at Chinatown whenever we visited San Francisco or New York. It's home away from home.
Thank you for sharing and Merry Christmas.Its a great story to share.
All rich real estate landlords …. Why sit in tiny ship
That’s because they tell us that if we don’t want to tip we shouldn’t come.
Not true
Yes don’t come
The US is dealing with a declining chinese students inflow and many chinese nationals moving out of big cities due to remote work and inflation. So these factors kinda take a good % of their core customers, then you factor in homeless and crimes in these areas, it’s just not worth it for some of them to keep the door open.
Chicago Chinatown is as good as ever.
The times they are a changing…. - Vanilla ice
"How dare we speak Merry Christmas!" "How dare we!" - Kamala Harris
Check it out. It's on video.
RACIST LIAR😊
Not true…some are thriving while others are not. For example, Chinatown in Manhattan is not doing well compared to flushing Chinatown. Flushing Chinatown is now bigger than manhattan Chinatown
In house competition. Ancient Chinese secret.
I think they are mostly talking about Chinatowns outside Cali and NY.
Wait its tha Greatest (D) Economy ever...
blame the war & inflation!
This has happened to various "Ethnic Towns" all over the country as the second generation assimilates into general American society. I do miss the German Towns and Italian and Ukrainian Villages, etc. of where I grew up, but that is just the way it is.
We supposed to care? Overlords telling you to care about stuff!
The problem is the gossip rumors and lies that America loves to spread.
People struggling post pandemic, imagine my shock!
Huh? People have been spending a lot since 2021 lol
@ people spend more because everything costs more, whatttt.
Chinatown are somehow always being zoned in not so nice part of town, especially historical Chinatowns with good restaurants are always in big blue cities where there's lots of crime nowadays. In Chinese social media we see weekly stabbing, robbery, car breakin stories and my wife is too afraid to go there anymore. It's pretty sad since there are some very good resultants and fair price grocery stores. However every time walking by these places there are tons of homeless, drug addicts, people selling stolen goods and asking for money...
I guess this could be a proxy of increased crime/awareness since 2020
Sum ting Wong ?
It is not the pandemic but the social disorder and daily break-ins, theft, and robberies. Where have you been?
这个饭太贵了. Not just at Chinese places but everywhere.
Here in Canada some Chinese restaurant's owner don't even speak English 😂
Chinatown here in Houston is boomin
I would like to see the Chinatown comparisons between Democrat areas vs normal American areas. You might find a common thread that’s not necessarily Asian
simply put, everything in US is failing
Imagine if Chinatown was also forced to pay tax properly
They pay more taxes than anyone. What are you talking about?
@@JJ-rp2df Chinatown in this context isn't one place. Imagine if our billionaires paid taxes properly?