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Yes "Sacrificial Magic" is old magic something as Voldemort aka Tom Marvolo Riddle stated "when dear sweet Lily Potter gave her life for her only son "I couldn't touch him" something I should have ForSeen but no matter,no matter things have changed .. I can touch you now... As he *touches* Harry on his forehead giving him access to his "Horcrux" But the ritual that Wormtail prepared then performed was Never fully explained to Rebuild or "Reconstitute or Regenerate" Voldy's body bad into somewhat of Working order.. "Bone 🦴 of the father, unwillingly given,Flesh of the Servant willingly sacrifice and Blood of the Enemy Forcefully taken.. "the dark Lord shall Rise Again.." as he puts the ingredients into a Huge Black Cauldron.. *Puffs and Explosion* out comes Voldemort in full gaunt like figure.. But does that also mean that the protection Lily placed on Harry applies to Voldemort as well that night? @HarryPotterTheory ?
I mean all magic is the ability to manipulate the world around you, something Muggles cannot do. Ancient Magic is a MacGuffin, even in Hogwarts Legacy the Ancient Magic used is nothing more than manipulation of reality, though it lacks a school of training because it's this "mysterious magic" no one knows; yet Lily Potter used it who was a 1st student. The 4 main quests in HL I thought was going to lead up to this big reveal but naw by the third main quest they threw out the Ancient Magic theme and did a Deathly Hallows fan service. Followed by the fourth quest which was like... "we got nothing on ancient magic here.... go tame a Grapple Horn". Their MacGuffin ran out of steam and they knew they couldn't actually explain Ancient Magic, that's the loophole ticket in the whole Wizarding World lol. I would classify "Ancient Magic" as only the ability to manipulate magic on a larger scale than the average wizard. Discuss.
@@adamosca6399well 🤷🏽♂️💬 💭 there are many ways to fly for instance: Wingardrum Levioso(spell) the fly.. Levi-Corpus(spell).. it's a push back spell,that sends anyone or anything flying away from you in whatever direction that's opposite of you (Knock Back Jinx).. I wouldn't say this is flying but more of transportation over greater distances,a few hundred to thousands of miles away (with an enchanted object Port-Key and there's thousands of different variations and kinds) There's a dark arts spell(you can use it to fly,transfer,transmodify,trans-mutate,and transfigure with a Threstral or Threstral-Wing to the land of the dead but you need to be put under a sleeping Draught like Draught of Living Death)to pass to the UnderWorld There are ruins(the stones with very specific markings that allow you to have access) to different elements like 🍃 wind or 🌩️ lightning .. I don't know How Exactly you can Aquire them but they are mentioned in Harry Potter Universe..and they can get you to Levitate using Gravity or Electromagnetism..
I have a theory that Dumbledore could see ancient magic. He could see through the invisibility cloak, which was no doubt infused with a mysterious ancient magic, and he explained to Harry while hunting for a horcrux, that magic leaves traces, while he examined the entryway into the chamber that supposedly held a horcrux. He saw magic in a way that no other wizard of that time could, besides Voldemort perhaps.
@@fantashtish nonono this is THE invisibility cloak, the books explain that unlike normal invisibility cloaks magic can’t be used to see through it, so i agree that it was more he sensed them there through the ancient magic and put 2&2 together that it was that rascal harry
Even in the Goblet of Fire during Voldemort's monologue, he mentioned love as an ancient magic in the movie: "It was love. You see, when dear sweet Lily Potter gave her life for her only son, it provided him with the ultimate protection, I could not touch him. It was old magic, something I should have foreseen."
I've theorized that Ancient Magic is simply magic in its purest form. It's not a spell, it needs no incantation, it is simply manipulating the magical energy in the world directly and without altering its nature. The uncontrolled natural magic young witches and wizards are prone to accidentally unleashing would be similar in nature. But The Ancient Magic is doing so with actual control and intent. I also theorize that Ancient Magic Echos, like seen in the game, would be concentrated spots where the energy has accumulated after powerful Ancient Magic has been used. And those few who are able to visibly perceive it being capable of harnessing the residual energy for themselves.
It would be interesting as well because of the idea in Harry Potter that magic came from Africa. African students tend to use wandless and (correct if wrong) wordless magic, so perhaps ancient magic could be more prevalent there
Like the Hogwarts Legacy says at some point. If i remember correctly. Ancient magic is the true magic. When you create something out of thin air. LIKE GOD POWER. AND THAT'S WHY those pensieve cutscenes are important even the first cutscene have meaning there. 2 man, building a castle by using their magic. That's the ancient magic thing. Normal magic is just all about altering stuff. Not creating something from thin air. And it's getting bolder when those groups of Hogwarts professors trying to help a village that suffer from drought. They create the rain, making fresh plants, and instantly filling the water pockets. That's ancient magic thing. And the power in magic world seems like always degenerating.. Always down and down in quality. Each generation. But of course sometimes some big magician pop out. It's like.. In the beginning, they were so powerful. Let say 100 power. But then it decreases along with time. Now in 2000, when the harry potter already adult and married, probably the power of average magicians only like.. 50 or something. No longer 100. It may also relate to.. some magicians dependant on modern muggle technologies so they lazy to practice their magic power. And also more and more magicians getting married to muggles so they never use their magic anymore. Salazar slytherin, tom riddle, Grindelwald actually not wrong about their pureblood desire. It's to maintain their people's power. To preserve their culture and identity and stuff. And maybe far in the future, that HP world no longer have some magicians. Maybe magic gonna be like a long lost legend or something. JK Rowling can make a new big story about this era. The futuristic era of robots, AI, and stuff. And then there are few teenagers that suddenly "blooming". They feel like they have a magic power even tho it doesnt make any sense. And they explore stuff and blablabla and they know about hogwarts and stuff and in the end, they try to preserve their magic legacy.
Don't know if it was mentioned: Luna and Harry at the ministry could see a "veil" in an archway, which the others could not see. Hermione says "it's just an empty archway". An archway which I find quite similar to the ones we keep jumping into within Hogwarts Legacy... Great video BTW 😊
They could see the veil because they’ve all seen death. Just like the theastrals. You could say seeing death gives you a sort of ancient magic sight, but either way it was seeing death that let them see the veil.
I missed the HP train as a teen, it totally flew past me (as did most YA/teen crazes), but now that I’ve been heavily addicted to Hogwarts Legacy, I’m trying to soak up as much HP lore as possible at age 33 😂
I wish I could go back and rewatch it all without any former knowledge, welcome to Hogwarts lore I hope you are enjoying it!! I can’t imagine how fascinating you must be finding it🪄
The more this series dives into the nature of Magic in the wizarding world, the more the phrase "All magic is just science we dont yet understand" rings true
@@ArrakisHeir88 It is cannon. It’s literally set hundreds of years before the events of Harry Potter and they used one of the various Goblin wars depicted in ancient books in wizardly history. The creators of the game have explained that many times.
I want to point out that in the movies, that Molly uses a move on Bellatrix thats almost exactly like what the protagonist does as an Ancient Magic finisher. They both turn blue then explode into what looks like paper. And this fight was also when Molly was pissed because her daughter was threatened. The power of love. As well as in the plot, Ancient Magic is shown its capable of manipulating emotions and turning it into raw power.
@@rpggaming1976in the book it was . mentioned it was a curse... Even though this channel made a theory it was a stunning spell, but I think it was a curse not mentioned
I'd like to point out a similar trait with Voldemort, when he destroys the Hogwarts shield charm with the Elder Wand. He was retaliating with rage and fear after losing another Horcrux, and the spell he used seemed to have that same white flash, and it was a spell like we've never seen before.
I had to rewatch the scene because at first ,I thought it might be a freezing charm because the sounds that proceeds it sounds like freezing. But then I noticed Bellatrix's limbs shrink inwards, so it might be some kind of Constricting curse, followed by an expanding spell. Perhaps it was amplified by emotional energy.
The thing is that George Lucas stated that the Force in the Star Wars Expanded Universe is infinite, while Rowling said that magic in the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise was finite with a...well, finite limit. Infinite beats finite. The Force and the Star Wars Expanded Universe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magic and the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise by a Googolplex, Aleph-Null, Infinite, Transfinite margin.
@@ricardorunos9782yeah, the way your character specifically can enhance and in cases like Crucio and Avada Kedavra even notably change the curses could very easily hint towards the unforgivable curses being some kind of hybrid between ancient magic and modern magic.
I just finished my second read of book 6 last night and in the cave scene, I'm pretty positive Dumbledore was seeing traces of at least old magic. Harry described how dark it was and that Dumbledore was moving as if he knew exactly where to go, as if he could see traces of magic that Harry could not.
If you're looking for objects that were made from ancient magic, the deathly hallows would be prime candidates. It would explain why they seem to be on a level far above regular magical items Added to that i'd probably also include the veil archway. That was said to have been super old and looks remarkably similar to magic portals created from ancient magic in the game Plus i think maybe a pensieve too could be another possibility. They're said to be powerful and very rare, and if you've played the game you'll know they pop up quite a bit
I would include the Globet of Fire aswell, besides reminding me of the Hogwarts Legacy flame logo, it is a tool for magic contracts...but with whom we are making contracts here, what happens if the people it chooses refuse to engage in the triwizard game? It is never explained, but probably something bad
I love your content, it helps me to understand the series (books/movies) more deeply. I like the idea of ancient magic, I feel it's no different from cultural traditions that get passed from generation to generation, like music or food. You honour your ancestors by eating a lovingly prepared meal, and in the HP universe, you do the same by using and passing on a spell that took great effort to create.
If I had to pin down ancient magic it would be similar to a thing we have in the regular world when talking about ancient beliefs about magic. Ley lines. In HL we see that the magic accumulates seemingly naturally at many locations around the valley. One thing I do remember from my mythology class is that there are major and minor ley lines. Hogwarts would seem to be a nexus of major ley lines which is why the magic of its defenses is extremely strong and the propensity of ghosts is so high. Some of the old lore about ley lines is that they are a combination of all magic of life and the magical energy of the planet. If you think about it, ley lines behave almost like gravity and pools into locations but the cycle of life and death is the source that keeps replenishing the magical energy. Ancient magic could also begin to accumulate in places that magic is used constantly or some kind of powerful single event happened. I think that those who can see the ley lines and ancient magic are just an even more rare version of magic user. It's like the other rare gifts, parselmouths, metamorphmagi, and the creatures and magic users that are born with legilimency. Like so many other things there could be levels to this rare gift, having a slight sense of how magic and ancient magic flows and moves could explain how Dumbledore could feel dark and regular magic without using a spell. Lilly could tap into the magic in a moment of crisis to give Harry sacrificial protection but otherwise be unaware of it and unable to see it. In HL we see that those who not only see it but shape it and use it are extremely scarce and that the gift slows their development and why they have their magical emergence later than others.
I think ancient magic is the kind of magic that existed before the invention of wands. Rituals, magic caused by emotional outbursts like the glass disappearing like in book one, Lily's sacrifice to protect Harry giving him lasting protection, etc.
My theory is that Ancient Magic is the foundation for all magic. It’s instinctual, even primal. Before wands, sceptres and the like magic users wielded magic through emotion and instinct. Then witches and wizards honed their abilities through magically imbued tools, which caused this primal magic to recede. I believe it exists in all magic users (humans, goblins, elves etc). Their bodies were the conduits for this magic and now there are secondary conduits like wands. Some are more connected to this ancient magic probably due to their lineage.
One of my favorite ways that magic has been portrayed in literature comes from the Night Watch series from Russian author Sergei Lukyanenko. In his novels, magic is something that blooms "only in rare souls" like Grindelwald claimed, and when a witch ir wizard reach a certain age they are either claimed by the light or dark side (magic is neutral, but the person is influenced by either aspect), so to maintain balance both sides agreed to oversee each other, the Night watch keeps Darksiders in check and the Day watch keeps Lightsiders in check with even numbers and power. In one of novels, the main characters discover the true origin of magic when one of the villains tries to artificially create more magicians: that magic itself is created everyday by ordinary humans, and magicians can sense and use magic because they draw power from humanity. So the magician's strength is determined by their body temperature, since regular humans are 98 degrees and produce magic unknowingly, magicians have a much lower body temperature and therefore absorb magic, so the lower the body temperature, the more magic they absorb and are able to use, so the villains plan of creating many magicians would inadvertently weaken magic for all magicians since there would be less humans producing it. When playing Hogwarts Legacy, and how they talk of ancient magic, this is what kept coming up in my mind. Pretty interesting concept.
There's something I've been confused about since finishing the game. At one point, someone recounts the memory of Prof Rackham and his colleagues saving a hamlet and describes it as "four wizards using ancient magic to save a hamlet" or something along those lines. The writing suggests that even though Prof Rackham is the only one of the four who can see and freely manipulate ancient magic, the other three also "wielded" it too? Did anyone else catch this?
It's a mistake in the video. Anyone can theoretically use Ancient Magic. In most cases, people do so unknowingly, as Lilly did when she sacrificed herself. The Hogwarts professors in the game learned to properly wield it from Rackham. But only certain witches and wizards, like Rackham, Isidora and the protagonist can actually see Ancient Magic. Because most people don't actually know about Ancient Magic, it's fairly uncommon for it to be wielded by anyone other than those capable of seeing it, unless taught by one such person.
@@CCgivemeawedgy That would also make sense about why they constantly reiterated the need to hide it from "falling into the wrong hands". Their tests didn't seem to be designed to keep out evil users of ancient magic, just ones without the natural proclivity. Considering how rare it is, it seems like it's possible to wield ancient magic without an affinity for it, which would explain the secrecy.
I like to think of ancient magic as coding. Ancient magic is like coding in its original form one's and zeros. It's very powerful and efficient but very difficult. Over time easier and more streamlined versions were created like c++, python, so more people are able to use it. Now lots of people can code but a very very few can actually bust out the old ones and zeros to code. That's why ancient magic doesn't need a wand but modern day magic does.
Always felt like Ancient Magic would cause the end of humanity and the one who wields it that carries that out would be seen as a God. Thats how powerful I think Ancient Magic truly is
As a coder too, this is a good way of putting it. I see it the same way Ancient Magic is the raw source code of the universe, its there, some can interact and use it, but they don't fully grasp the concept in its entirety. Whereas our more commonly seen magic, is your coding languages, very capable, flexible and powerful. But not nearly as flexible and powerful as being able to play in the binary itself, where your possibilities are damn near, if not endless.
Ancient magic is very esoteric as seen in the love protection of Harry's mother. It's seen in the many tropes and themes that humans all share such as redemption and self sacrifice. These are also seen in most ancient fables such as Sleeping Beauty where she is delivered from evil by the warrior prince.
I think the fidelius charm is also a form of ancient magic. As with 'love' it is to do with another strong human emotion, 'trust' / and 'betrayal'. I am pretty sure in one of your videos about the fidelius charm you have mentioned its cryptic nature as an ancient curse. I feel like ancient magic can be pictured as very primal, unrefined magic, sort of the magic that early witches in the middle ages might have used. On that notion, trust and love magic, make so much sense because they are both very primal in their nature.
I don’t know if anyone else has said this yet but one of the ancient magic finishers in the game looks almost identical to the way Molly killed Bellatrix so it’s plausible that Molly’s love for her daughter allowed her to use ancient magic in that moment
Avada Kadavra is instantaneous, while Bellatrix was able to utter a last "Oh.." it's more implied to have been an expertly cast version of the same spell Hermione was taken out by during the ministry right in order of the phoenix. Same wand movement, nonverbal cast, struck the same place (the heart) and while Molly's version did not take the form of purple fire, we know that casting a spell perfectly eliminates effects like sparks and light.
Ancient Magic feels a lot like the Force from Star Wars. It is a part of the natural world, connects the world of the living and the dead, it can only wielded by a select few, it exists independently of a witch or wizard, it is almost alive in a way, and it is heavily linked to emotions and intuition. I also feel like it is extremely difficult to bend it to your will because it is technically beyond you and if you want to utilize it you have to work with the flow instead of against it.
If love is a form of ancient magic, then hear my theories/headcanons: Children are born with the innate ability to use Ancient Magic. In hogwarts legacy, invoking Ancient magic may reveal or hide objects (as if they're in paralel universe). The spontaneous magic cast by children who has no control of their magic, is most likely some form of magic chat is tied to their emotions. Remember when angry harry causes the mirror Dudley leans on disappear? Only for it to reappear? Thus, ancient magic born from rage/anger. Ancient Magic is the ability to harness flow of magic OUTSIDE the self, manipulating nature, time, emotions, existence. The basic form of everything. While normal magic uses inherent magic from oneself (thus the existence of Obscurus in Fantastic Beasts). As witches/wizards grew up relying on their "core self" magic, they somehow forgot how to use Ancient Magic. Let's see my other headcanons about some Ancient Magic attacks in the game: Ancient Magic Throw where the protagonist throws objects to the enemy, what's the difference with other object-manipulating spells (accio, depulso, wingardium leviosa, levioso)? Ancient magic throw manipulates the very atoms of the object, that's why you see no magical effect when the object is thrown. While spells like wingardium leviosa conjures an invisible hand that lifts the object. That's why you see some "windy flow effect" around the object. Ancient Magic that kills/deals damage to enemies from the inside, what's the difference with Avada Kedavra? Ancient magic that deals damage, simply forces cells inside the body to disintegrate, causing major damage at best (on high level enemies and trolls), and fatal at worst (insta kills most enemies). Avada Kedavra, in my headcanon, is doing a tug of war on someone else' soul, killing them instantly. Ancient Magic that (SPOILERS) takes away pain and emotions from others, what's the difference with Imperio? Ancient Magic that takes away pain, literally takes away emotions in it's visible form. But it can be stored in a goblin made container. But when you take all of it, the person became an empty shell (as seen in San Bakar's pensieve. Imperio? It surpress the emotion/the ego of the self, while instilling the emotion/ego of the enemy above that layer. Which is why it can be resisted, because the original is still there. This also relates to why Harry has his blood infused with Lily's love to protect against Killing Curse. While the final Boss, Ranrok is protected by ancient magic that prevents Avada Kedavra to instakill.
I think ancient magic has to atleast be somewhat tied to emotions like love, like with harrys mom, and since in the game we learn that the containers of ancient magic is actually peoples pain and emotions extracted from them but it left the people emotionless and gave who ever harnessed the emotions op powers. Also, maybe the ancient magic is within every person and is part of their soul somehow, since the removal of peoples pain resulted in them acting as if they had the dementors kiss. So if ancient magic is tied to the soul then perhaps voldemort could use it since he was able to split his soul and was presumably the first to do it in ages.
*tl;dr* Emotion is not ancient magic, ancient magic just has the ability to manipulate nature in ways normal magic can't. That witch used ancient magic to extract emotions, the emotion magic isnt ancient magic, she just used that to get even more powerful, which corrupted her because she was taking in other peoples negativity. She believed they shouldnt be hiding the magic and they should use it, which is what she was doing. Creating horcruxes is not a part of ancient magic, it's an extremely taboo dark art, it's written about in the "darkest of arts" book the game pokes fun at by just having it casually in view in a few quests, but it's actually an extremely powerful and dangerous book that shouldnt be in plain sight. Also nothing to do with ancient magic. The game makes it painfully clear, people being able to see and wield ancient magic happens very rarely, its not within everybody, the professors in the paintings and your character are the only people known/confirmed to have its abilities. The lore of *what* it is, is more or less established. It's a powerful form of magic that can manipulate the world around the caster in ways normal magic cant. Like changing the weather, altering the ecosystem, removing emotion. All seen in the game.
Interesting theory! But for Voldemort I'd argue that ancient magic was actually his weakness, and that he didn't consider that when he split his soul how much power he'd lose by doing it. He couldn't possess those with a pure soul any longer without excruciating pain, and disregarded wandless house elf magic which I think is connected to ancient magic as well.
@@noodle_Cx There however is a huge connection between emotion's and ancient magic just like how lilly unknowingly used one. Those are natural Ancient Magic tho it doesnt mean that lily was able to wield it. But yeah it was pure just like ancient magic so she did use it. Look at the game. Your character is so angry using ancient magic against enemies turning a huge spider into little one and stepping on it. Blowing them up from existence. Making them burn so not even water helps etc. etc. So Ancient magic is not Emotion but there is a connection.
Do you take a pinch of salt to throw over your left shoulder to keep bad luck away if you spill some salt by accident? I may have already performed some ancient magic! No shoes on the bed, no open umbrellas in the house, never cross knives in the drawer, even by accident? It's supposed to cause fights, according to my nan, who had it from her Scottish mother!
Terence McKenna has a great lecture on how magic is essential when reality is made of language. With scriptures from the hermetica itself. It taught me a lot, if you know the word. You can sing it into existence. That's why it's called a "spell"
Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
I think that ancient magic is what we would consider an art, in contrast to the scientific process that we seen in common, everyday magic. Art, after all, is spontaneous and unique. A depiction of the soul.
Here an idea for a video, how different are each house in Legacy compared to when Harry Potter goes to Hogwarts. Slytherin particular not portrayed has evil it was in the books, this point to Voldemort being far more responsible for the bad reputation than we give him credit for.
Thought it was interesting that it is mentioned in the movies that (paraphrasing) "there isn't a Slytherin today that hasn't gone bad" ... Yet we see in Hogwarts Legacy that Ominis Gaunt is very much the antithesis of this statement, while also being a direct ancestor of Tom Riddle himself. I think you may be on to something with this. I wonder if Tom created a lasting negative perception of Slytherin. I believe Merlin was also a Slytherin, which furthermore supports the idea that the house itself wasn't always filled with dark witches and wizards....
@@corackadile - You got that paraphrasing backwards.... its not that every single slytherin goes bad.... its that all bad wizards came from slytherin.. Quote: "There was not a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin". Also, if you do a certain side quest, you get to find out more about the founder of Slytherin and well, lets just say, he wasnt really a super nice guy..lol.
I always viewed ancient magic as nothing more than the raw and untapped power of magic in its purest form. It’s the source of all magic, and so connecting to it would be unpredictable, dangerous and most definitely powerful. Connecting to it would mean doing so through powerful means, such as emotions, memories, tools or rare genetics. It makes sense that love, emotions and powerful memories would bolster someone’s connection to magic, as they can be the rawest and most pure parts of ourselves - hence a connection to a form of ancient magic.
This could be another example of ancient magic in Harry Potter. The way ancient magic looks in game feels like this is how Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange.
I think that it could be a natural law (3:44) because as you point out the fact that some creatures are more magical than others (4:18), and I suggest, because of that, that it's like how primates (humans included), are the best animals at grabbing things because we have opposable thumbs. The proof for my theory is this: genetic mutations of our ancestors are what gives us our powers (4:45), and that the earliest real humans are what we could relate to early wizards (5:13), and that other primates are just regular humans. In summary, I think that magic is what we could consider as the difference between us and other primates, but instead of genetics and evolution (in the standard form), it's more about abilities and chance.
Holy crap Gaara is ninja Harry Potter....think about it....the more you think about it the more it makes sense. When he mentioned Lily’s sacrifice creating a magical shield to protect harry after her death and throughout his life it all just clicked
The framing of ancient magic seems to be that it's more instinctive and primal, and less something you use but more something that happens when it's needed. Hopefully not in a The Force sort of way. The fact that it's called ancient seems to imply it was the only form of magic in prehistory, until people began to categorize and form its use intentionally rather than from instinct. Legacy represents its effects as being fairly random, even if called upon. All of them seem to draw on life and the natural world, though. Having access to it seems to be a bit like having a car race, but your ride is a zoo animal you didn't get to pick.
An idea going off the love protection for Harry, maybe the emotions coincide with Ancient Magic And maybe welders of ancient magic find they can do it in 5th year usually because thats when they actually start to grow emotionally??
I think that Dumbledore could use ancient magic as well. Either he may have been able to use it himself or the elder wand might function as some sort of conduit for ancient magic (as one of the mentioned artifacts its bound to be infused with it). I mean some of his spells are just way more powerful than regular magic spells (at least in the movies they look that way).
Ancient Magic to me would also include the Life Debt between Wormtail and Harry. It's magic that you do not need prior knowledge of - or spellwork - to invoke, but magic that comes as a byproduct of a metaphysically seismic deed like sacrificing your life for others or saving/sparing a life.
I am pretty sure that "ancient magic" is the stuff the House Elves and Goblins use. Its "ancient" because it predates wands. I feel like this is mentioned in the books.
Dumbledore displayed ancient magic practices quite a few times .. it all has to do with how much a wizard or witch knows... Main thing about ancient magic, no need for a wand... Quite a few times Dumbledore didn't use a wand to perform magic... Example, when they were going to take him to Azkaban and his phoenix flew over him and he clapped his hands together and aparated...
True but wandless magicks are possible. There's the school in Africa that doesn't even use wands, they do wandless magick all the time. They aren't ancient Magick wielders like the MC etc of Hogwarts Legacy.
My theory is that the origin of ancient magic is divine. We know that mythological creatures exist in the Harry Potter universe. Given that, it would make sense for gods to also exist. Wizards are probably the descendants of gods and humans or maybe even angels/humans mating in the ancient past. I suspect that this blood is present in all humans too, but in some lineages it is stronger than others, and when it is strong enough, it makes a person a wizard/witch. This would explain why some muggle families suddenly find they have a witch/wizard in the family, despite no one in their family tree being magical. Perhaps in such cases, the parents had too weak of a connection to the divine on their own, but together produce a child who is strong enough in those divine energies to make them able to wield magic. Another likely answer is that humans and faeries, goblins, etc. have interbred, and that interbreeding has resulted in humans who have magic. We know that Giants and humans and Goblins and humans have mated before, as Hagrid is half giant and Flitwick has Goblin blood. Presumably there are loads of magical creatures that can cross with humans, not just those two, so maybe wizards are human descendants of more common unions with such beings in the past.
I think that ancient magic is probably a mix to theory 1 and 4. That is it’s exist and a part of every living thing and pools in a ancient location. And was control by the first magic users and over time as magic is getting more formalised and taught. Witch’s and wizards have lost the ability with the more ethereal ancient magic.
First explanation: Primordial. Links with having to *understand* magic on a deeper level Second explanation: Developed. Rarity. Not much else to it Third explanation: Necromantic, in nature. Understanding what death is, in order to master it, and weave the magic of death to your will Fourth explanation: Earliest known magic. Makes sense, in a way. The earliest magics to be discovered would naturally be the least known about, similar to how did the first cell form. How did the first magic come to be? How does it work?
My theory is that it's Wild Magic, as depicted in the chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. It's a type of magic that can break all the rules, is difficult to control, and is very powerful. No White Gold link in the game, but it seems to work in a similar manner.
I have my own theory about the origin of ancient magic. It all started, like wizarding magic itself, when a group of humans were chosen to travel to a realm outside of earth and thus wield the magic within that realm. Then, when some of their descendants came back to earth (or when some refused to make the trip, becoming the very first muggle-borns) they brought their magic into the “real” world. This answer, I think, ties into the existing lore and expands upon it in a way that makes sense. As for what ancient magic is, I like the idea that it is tied closely to love, since even in our world love can cause people to do utterly mind-boggling things. This is unrelated, but I like the concept of ancient magic in the Harry Potter books, since it explains some of the nuances within the story. The key example is when Lily’s sacrifice triggers the magic while James’ sacrifice does not.
Considering the end goal and powers of the villains of the games, along with the fact that "love" is considered ancient magic. I'd say the best theory is that ancient magic has to do with emotion, and the raw fabrics between the spirit world and mortal world, this is somewhat tied with the dementors kiss, and how they steal all emotion from you, and in doing so take your "soul", linking emotions and spirits. Also, for those who have beaten the game, you know why emotions are relevant to the "ancient magic" discussion brought up in the game. It's likely ancient magic that made dementors. It may also play a role in the 3 unforgivable curses, that require someone to "truly mean it" when they attempt to cast them, as they may require the true emotional response needed to cast. Also, the deathly hallows are tied to emotion, the elder wand being pride (Antioch wanting the prove he was the most powerful wizard, with a wand to beat all others), the stone being greed (Cadmus wanting to humiliate death even further, and get back something he felt was taken from him), and the cloak being humility (Ignotus literally being called "a humble man" in the story). Dragons are considered prideful creatures, implying pride might be the ancient magic affecting their scales. etc. These feelings and concepts and emotions are all seemingly tied to the most powerful spells, artifacts, and creatures in the HP universe.
Here’s my theory: many Millenia ago (long before even the Hogwarts founders), ancient magic was everywhere, and everyone could use it, because ultimately it was tied to the soul, which everyone obviously has…eventually people started to argue over how the magic was used and the long term consequences it had on the world , some believed they shouldn’t depend on it so much…this philosophical rift soon became so huge that it led to a war which nearly destroyed the entire world, and cost many lives …. And so it seemed the ancient magic disappeared and the majority of the worlds population evolved as muggles….but small groups of magic users remained, however their magic was somewhat weaker compared to the ancient magic, this is the traditional magic used by the wizarding world today … to protect themselves they kept themselves hidden from the non magic users, but even still, the old ancient magic was thought to be lost, dormant, hidden away…but every few generations there are rare wizards born who can see traces of the ancient magic , and use it to influence “regular” magic in ways never seen before…eventually four of these special wizards are born and together create Hogwarts using this ancient magic, a true “stronghold / foundation of ancient magic”…
I’m just assuming it’s something similar to The Witcher series where there is a base level magic where people can tap into it and then you have “sources” people who can fully manipulate it/become one with it either based on genetics, or whatever they came up with in the last Star Wars where it chooses who can control it which would imply it’s at least semi conscious.
When I play the game, I assume that ancient magic is similar to natural mana in Black Clover. Wizards can harness the magic in the natural world instead of jus the magic in their veins that’s why their spells are so powerful and random
Could it be possible that ancient magic is seen as more powerful due to fewer people possibly having less knowledge of it? In older times, access to written text and information in general was limited. So magic from the past may have fewer people who know how to conjure it. And in the case of dark magic fewer may know how to defend against it.
I like theory 1 and know in my heart that there is natural energy all around us that some are able to channel which kind of blends into a couple of the other ones. Enjoy your content.
As a practitioner of ancient magic most of this is spot on. Others in my family could practice their psychic abilities in a somewhat easy way. I was a late bloomer and got got started in magic not until i was in my thirties. I realized at some point that my psychic abilities were different than others around me and the way i did magic/do magic doesn’t require tools in the same way as others. They talk to the Gods and Goddesses. I tap into the fabric of the universe, the dead, elementals and some other forces that appear to be inaccessible by most other people around me. I didn’t realize i was doing it differently until i heard others talk about their magical practices. Oh well.
Personally I believe ancient magic can only be used if someone follows/completes certain prerequisites (like: willingly sacrificing will cast a powerful protection magic).
Ancient magic in the books: Protective. Ancient magic in Hogwarts Legacy: Lol, lets direct a lightning on this poor poacher and let the other poacher hit the ground hard multiple times till lifeless. Haha yes.
only time i remember them mentioning ancient magic in the original books is when dumbledore describes the protection spelll lily used on harry as ancient magic
the whispers to those who have the potential ability to harness ancient magic made me immediately think of luna with her various creatures and ability to just know things she werent told.
I actually wrote a fan fiction on a (now defunct) blog site some years back on ancient magic. This was my fan theory: Ancient magic is simply primordial magic not from this plane of existence. It’s more powerful because humans were never meant to have it. Humans could only wield it either through Divine intervention (i.e. God granting power to Old Testament figures like Moses) or from infernal beings (deal with the devil). I imagined the latter was more common, which is what caused muggles to view magic as evil. However, one witch/wizard managed to trick the infernal being into granting ancient magic not only to them, but all their descendants. This would explain how some wizards and witches can wield it, while others can’t. The Peverells, Potters, Dumbledores, and Voldemort are all descendants from that one particular witch/wizard. I’m not butthurt that Avalanche introduced ancient magic on a grander scale. But perhaps my idea will turn out to be similar to future explanations 😅
I think of Ancient Magic as a high-pressure system that Wizards/Witches can tap into for the purpose of particular Ancient Magic spell casting, as opposed to using their own latent magical power. Like, if Ancient Magic is the air inside a balloon, then a Wizard casting an Ancient Magic spell is poking a hole in that balloon and harnessing the power rushing out of it for their particular spell, or purpose. I think Harry causing the glass to disappear on Dudley at the Zoo is an example of Ancient Magic wielded completely by accident.
Personally I wonder if Ancient Magic weilders are the founding members of Wizarding Families. After all, if magic is a genetic trait, with Muggle-borns having at least some Squib ancestry, then where did the pure-blood families come from? If a random human is born with the potential to see and weild Ancient Magic, that would explain why the trait doesn't appear until near the end of puberty, and why the wizards we know are actually inheriting a watered-down version of magic.
So it is now canon that ancient magic are indeed more powerful and raw than the newer ones, albeit only a few chosen ones can successfully cast them or at the height of one's emotions (Lily). There's a theory that's popular before the release of the game that said ancient magic are weak compared to the modern ones because the modern are actually refined, made stronger thru the directions of incantations, akin to science. Well, looks like ancient magic rocks now! :3
The book The Demonata by Darren Shan although not at all related to Harry Potter. Also talks about ancient magic. And have a very good explanation on what it is that can very much be applied to Harry Potter.
I think ancient magic is one of the earliest type of pure energy and magic. Like it was the magic itself before spells were even considered, like it was magic but without any spell or incantation. Maybe witches and wizards (like Merlin, Rackham, Isadora, and I think even Dumbledore) posessed these abilities and that made them so powerful. I always loved the tought that the protagonist of HL is far more powerfull than Harry because of his/her ancient magic.
I cannot speak for JK Rowling, of course, but it would seem that she intended these references to ancient magic to imply that all of us in the real world are subject to that ancient magic. Love and sacrifice, innocence and devotion - the things that make all humans great - these are powerful forms of magic that Voldemort lacked. They were the extremely powerful forms of magic that Harry had which allowed him to defeat Voldemort. The most magical aspect of the Harry Potter universe is that all of us have access in the real world to the most powerful magic Harry Potter could imagine...
"Ancient magic does not require the use of wands.... Few can weild it.... It's considered dangerous and should be restricted..." Seems to me that "Wands" were invented and became the common basis for most magic used by wizards as a way to LIMIT the use of "Ancient" magic by the population. Wands really are a handicap, training ones to use magic through them is a nerfing strategy. The limited understanding of wands "The seemingly all important lifeblood of wizarding existence" Really does support this hypothesis, as wouldn't you think the wizarding world would know wand law inside and out better then any other skill or trade they have? It's like a mechanic not understanding how an internal combustion engine works. Seem strange to you that broken wands are seemingly unfixable yet they can be "created" in the first place? Seems to me that either Wizards got lazy and started using wands to condense their powers to lessen the time to becoming proficient versus the longer path of natural magic, or wands were a side tool that just kinda got used and modernized overtime, like a side arm went from ball muskets to rifles. Or... and this is my favorite, the wizarding world was bambozzeled eons ago Sauron style into using this nerf sticks by some unseen evil to make the wizards easy to manipulate... or perhaps done to prevent them from obliterating the earth, Eitherway.... wands.... are a choke collar. I mean hell, look how fucking powerful an untrained house elf like dobbie is?! If dobbie can do that with simple innate power, imagine how insanely powerful an average well trained witch or wizard would be without the wand?! They would be gods.
Would love an episode on examples of casting magic without wands as it was mentioned in Hogwarts Legacy that the Ugandan school don't use any wands so interested to know how prevalent is it in the lore
Given the nature of the Harry Potter stories, I would think it is similar to the deep magic of Narnia. The fundamentally “magical” foundation of the reality, or rather Divine Providence. That is why it is tied to things like love and sacrifice.
The 5th year late bloomers kind of reminded of Albus Potter, perhaps he inherits it from his grandma Lilly. If god forbid cursed child got a sequel (to try to fix/salvage whatever mess the original was, and capitalise on the commercial success) then I think that could possibly be interesting to explore ancient magic in that format.
My theory is that there's an elective class that becomes available to fifth years that unknowingly or knowingly teaches the concepts needed to perform ancient magic. Perhaps the history of magic? But regardless, a class that most students think to be useless or boring. But the concepts are philosophical and not literal, which would require one to focus on the nature of magic itself and not just the forces it can wield. That would explain why very few unlock the talent, only few are able to understand and piece together the concepts the elective teaches. It would also explain how Voldemort and Dumbledore have access to what appears to be minor forms of ancient magic while others don't. They were incredibly intelligent and curious students and absolutely would've seen the pieces of the puzzle and known how to put them together. Where Tom Riddle would try and harness ancient magic for domination, a young Dumbledore would've seen the value in it's protective qualities. It only makes sense that the most powerful wizards alive would've studied the root of magic itself. Definitely a thinking point at least😂😂😂
ancient magic is just something they stuck in the game for the sake of plot. its not tied to the rest of the wizarding world and doesnt have any deeper meaning
@@jameer7565 Hogwarts Legacy isn't canon, the ancient magic mentioned in the video is what Rowling intended to it to be: strong emotions that every human (magical and not) posses and what Voldemort lacked. It has nothing related to ancient magic from the game.
I originally assumed that Ancient Magic was just the magic that naturally existed in nature, and would often cause various natural phenomena. Like how ruins could have magical mechanics which had occured naturally and not placed by someone. Basically, it's the magical version of the Laws of Physics. That's what I assumed.
I think ancient magic was more archaic but more power form of magic as in harry potter its confirmed the magic of love is the most ancient and most powerful type of magic, how ancient magic attacks in the legacy game affects enemies looks to be like much more powerful so powerful it can disintegrate targets, and summon lightning from the sky, Seems likely it was also magic that merlin also wielded as hes regarded as the most powerful wizard to exist and hes ancient by the time of the legacy game so its possible it is magic that can affect reality on a much deeper level then normal magic
Technically not, but it's not like Rowling is going to write any new books so everything that's being made right now is just an extension from the original. But of course, when making new video games or films, inspiration is also taken from each other eg. The concept of saving animals with a bag in Hogwarts Legacy is taken directly from Fantastic Beasts. So yes technically it's not canon but anything that is going to expand the Harry Potter universe is going to take into account everything that's been made before it especially with a game franchise which is going to be this big (they're very likely going to make more hogwarts legacy games, that's already been announced) so you can interpret it as canon in my opinion.
It really depends on what you consider to be canon. It's not part of Rowling's canon, as much as the MCU is not part of any Marvel Comics canon. But as far as Warner Bros. is concerned, they will very likely consider it canon for any future projects under their control.
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Yes "Sacrificial Magic" is old magic something as Voldemort aka Tom Marvolo Riddle stated "when dear sweet Lily Potter gave her life for her only son "I couldn't touch him" something I should have ForSeen but no matter,no matter things have changed ..
I can touch you now... As he *touches* Harry on his forehead giving him access to his "Horcrux"
But the ritual that Wormtail prepared then performed was Never fully explained to Rebuild or "Reconstitute or Regenerate" Voldy's body bad into somewhat of Working order.. "Bone 🦴 of the father, unwillingly given,Flesh of the Servant willingly sacrifice and Blood of the Enemy Forcefully taken.. "the dark Lord shall Rise Again.." as he puts the ingredients into a Huge Black Cauldron.. *Puffs and Explosion* out comes Voldemort in full gaunt like figure..
But does that also mean that the protection Lily placed on Harry applies to Voldemort as well that night? @HarryPotterTheory ?
I mean all magic is the ability to manipulate the world around you, something Muggles cannot do. Ancient Magic is a MacGuffin, even in Hogwarts Legacy the Ancient Magic used is nothing more than manipulation of reality, though it lacks a school of training because it's this "mysterious magic" no one knows; yet Lily Potter used it who was a 1st student. The 4 main quests in HL I thought was going to lead up to this big reveal but naw by the third main quest they threw out the Ancient Magic theme and did a Deathly Hallows fan service. Followed by the fourth quest which was like... "we got nothing on ancient magic here.... go tame a Grapple Horn". Their MacGuffin ran out of steam and they knew they couldn't actually explain Ancient Magic, that's the loophole ticket in the whole Wizarding World lol. I would classify "Ancient Magic" as only the ability to manipulate magic on a larger scale than the average wizard. Discuss.
@@adamosca6399well 🤷🏽♂️💬 💭 there are many ways to fly for instance: Wingardrum Levioso(spell) the fly.. Levi-Corpus(spell).. it's a push back spell,that sends anyone or anything flying away from you in whatever direction that's opposite of you (Knock Back Jinx).. I wouldn't say this is flying but more of transportation over greater distances,a few hundred to thousands of miles away (with an enchanted object Port-Key and there's thousands of different variations and kinds)
There's a dark arts spell(you can use it to fly,transfer,transmodify,trans-mutate,and transfigure with a Threstral or Threstral-Wing to the land of the dead but you need to be put under a sleeping Draught like Draught of Living Death)to pass to the UnderWorld
There are ruins(the stones with very specific markings that allow you to have access) to different elements like 🍃 wind or 🌩️ lightning .. I don't know How Exactly you can Aquire them but they are mentioned in Harry Potter Universe..and they can get you to Levitate using Gravity or Electromagnetism..
day 2 of asking what is this song lol
I have a theory that Dumbledore could see ancient magic. He could see through the invisibility cloak, which was no doubt infused with a mysterious ancient magic, and he explained to Harry while hunting for a horcrux, that magic leaves traces, while he examined the entryway into the chamber that supposedly held a horcrux. He saw magic in a way that no other wizard of that time could, besides Voldemort perhaps.
Good idea except only Moody could see through the Cloak at most Dumbledore could sense the presence of the Cloak.
I don’t think he could see through the cloak, he could use Homenum Revelio non verbally
@Morrigan KASA he could only see through due to his magical eye
But Dumbledore started as a first-year while those capable of using ancient magic at least seem to be unable to wield magic until they turn 14 to 15.
@@fantashtish nonono this is THE invisibility cloak, the books explain that unlike normal invisibility cloaks magic can’t be used to see through it, so i agree that it was more he sensed them there through the ancient magic and put 2&2 together that it was that rascal harry
Even in the Goblet of Fire during Voldemort's monologue, he mentioned love as an ancient magic in the movie: "It was love. You see, when dear sweet Lily Potter gave her life for her only son, it provided him with the ultimate protection, I could not touch him. It was old magic, something I should have foreseen."
Soo it was not a love then. It was ancient magic. Accidentally "summoned" because Lily's emotion(love emotion) to Harry.
@@DBT1007 same thing, it’s magical love
@@yourfather8041 its the sacrifice really
@@DBT1007 ......
@@DBT1007 Love is the ancient magic, and love is an emotion. Not sure what you're trying to say here.
I've theorized that Ancient Magic is simply magic in its purest form. It's not a spell, it needs no incantation, it is simply manipulating the magical energy in the world directly and without altering its nature.
The uncontrolled natural magic young witches and wizards are prone to accidentally unleashing would be similar in nature. But The Ancient Magic is doing so with actual control and intent. I also theorize that Ancient Magic Echos, like seen in the game, would be concentrated spots where the energy has accumulated after powerful Ancient Magic has been used. And those few who are able to visibly perceive it being capable of harnessing the residual energy for themselves.
It's like eating fruits vs candy
That's basically the conclusion I've drawn. Seem quite obvious, really.
Ye, like black tar heroin
It would be interesting as well because of the idea in Harry Potter that magic came from Africa. African students tend to use wandless and (correct if wrong) wordless magic, so perhaps ancient magic could be more prevalent there
Like the Hogwarts Legacy says at some point. If i remember correctly.
Ancient magic is the true magic. When you create something out of thin air. LIKE GOD POWER. AND THAT'S WHY those pensieve cutscenes are important even the first cutscene have meaning there. 2 man, building a castle by using their magic. That's the ancient magic thing.
Normal magic is just all about altering stuff. Not creating something from thin air.
And it's getting bolder when those groups of Hogwarts professors trying to help a village that suffer from drought. They create the rain, making fresh plants, and instantly filling the water pockets. That's ancient magic thing.
And the power in magic world seems like always degenerating.. Always down and down in quality. Each generation. But of course sometimes some big magician pop out.
It's like.. In the beginning, they were so powerful. Let say 100 power. But then it decreases along with time. Now in 2000, when the harry potter already adult and married, probably the power of average magicians only like.. 50 or something. No longer 100.
It may also relate to.. some magicians dependant on modern muggle technologies so they lazy to practice their magic power. And also more and more magicians getting married to muggles so they never use their magic anymore.
Salazar slytherin, tom riddle, Grindelwald actually not wrong about their pureblood desire. It's to maintain their people's power. To preserve their culture and identity and stuff.
And maybe far in the future, that HP world no longer have some magicians. Maybe magic gonna be like a long lost legend or something. JK Rowling can make a new big story about this era. The futuristic era of robots, AI, and stuff. And then there are few teenagers that suddenly "blooming". They feel like they have a magic power even tho it doesnt make any sense. And they explore stuff and blablabla and they know about hogwarts and stuff and in the end, they try to preserve their magic legacy.
Don't know if it was mentioned:
Luna and Harry at the ministry could see a "veil" in an archway, which the others could not see. Hermione says "it's just an empty archway".
An archway which I find quite similar to the ones we keep jumping into within Hogwarts Legacy...
Great video BTW 😊
Also his archway appears in their FIFTH year.
You mean the archway which was the portal for read people9
Yea but they didn't start in their 5th year so can't be ancient magic.
Neville also saw it, all 3 could also see thestrals. Furthermore Sirius was gone forever when he fell into it.
They could see the veil because they’ve all seen death. Just like the theastrals. You could say seeing death gives you a sort of ancient magic sight, but either way it was seeing death that let them see the veil.
I missed the HP train as a teen, it totally flew past me (as did most YA/teen crazes), but now that I’ve been heavily addicted to Hogwarts Legacy, I’m trying to soak up as much HP lore as possible at age 33 😂
Glad to hear you're back on board!
I'm 33 ....same story
I wish I could go back and rewatch it all without any former knowledge, welcome to Hogwarts lore I hope you are enjoying it!! I can’t imagine how fascinating you must be finding it🪄
Welcome to the fold ❤️
36 here lol, first thing I looked up was lore on the unforgivable curses
The more this series dives into the nature of Magic in the wizarding world, the more the phrase "All magic is just science we dont yet understand" rings true
yeah but this game isn't canon. it's just a fun what if scenario.
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It is cannon. It’s literally set hundreds of years before the events of Harry Potter and they used one of the various Goblin wars depicted in ancient books in wizardly history. The creators of the game have explained that many times.
@@incomments2864 More like one hundred years prior. I think the late 1890s is the intended time period.
@@incomments2864 i don't think it is because we would have seen Dumbledore who was over 100 years old in the Harry Potter books
@@intelsucks7365 Dumbledore started Hogwarts in 1892
I want to point out that in the movies, that Molly uses a move on Bellatrix thats almost exactly like what the protagonist does as an Ancient Magic finisher. They both turn blue then explode into what looks like paper. And this fight was also when Molly was pissed because her daughter was threatened. The power of love. As well as in the plot, Ancient Magic is shown its capable of manipulating emotions and turning it into raw power.
That doesn't happen in the books she is killed by a stupify that hit her in the crest stopping her heart.
@@rpggaming1976in the book it was . mentioned it was a curse... Even though this channel made a theory it was a stunning spell, but I think it was a curse not mentioned
I'd like to point out a similar trait with Voldemort, when he destroys the Hogwarts shield charm with the Elder Wand. He was retaliating with rage and fear after losing another Horcrux, and the spell he used seemed to have that same white flash, and it was a spell like we've never seen before.
I had to rewatch the scene because at first ,I thought it might be a freezing charm because the sounds that proceeds it sounds like freezing. But then I noticed Bellatrix's limbs shrink inwards, so it might be some kind of Constricting curse, followed by an expanding spell. Perhaps it was amplified by emotional energy.
So ancient magic is
.. the Force..."It surrounds us, penetrates us, binds the Universe together." - Yoda
The thing is that George Lucas stated that the Force in the Star Wars Expanded Universe is infinite, while Rowling said that magic in the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise was finite with a...well, finite limit.
Infinite beats finite.
The Force and the Star Wars Expanded Universe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>magic and the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise by a Googolplex, Aleph-Null, Infinite, Transfinite margin.
I like how Ancient Magic is based on emotion, and in order to cast an unforgivable, you need to mean it.
It kind of bleeds together.
An enhanced Avada can kill multiple targets in one shot. I am inclined to believe your theory.
@@ricardorunos9782yeah, the way your character specifically can enhance and in cases like Crucio and Avada Kedavra even notably change the curses could very easily hint towards the unforgivable curses being some kind of hybrid between ancient magic and modern magic.
I just finished my second read of book 6 last night and in the cave scene, I'm pretty positive Dumbledore was seeing traces of at least old magic. Harry described how dark it was and that Dumbledore was moving as if he knew exactly where to go, as if he could see traces of magic that Harry could not.
I thought the exact same while watching this video!
I love the game so much, that it literally expanded the lore and gave us more knowledge about the world and the mysteries lurking on top of it.
Me too. I love how it's bringing people together. Especially on tiktok
If you're looking for objects that were made from ancient magic, the deathly hallows would be prime candidates. It would explain why they seem to be on a level far above regular magical items
Added to that i'd probably also include the veil archway. That was said to have been super old and looks remarkably similar to magic portals created from ancient magic in the game
Plus i think maybe a pensieve too could be another possibility. They're said to be powerful and very rare, and if you've played the game you'll know they pop up quite a bit
Deathly Hallows make more sense due to their inclusion in the main quest of Fitzgerald.
The bit about Pensieves being powerful and rare, what's the source of this?
What about the Goblet of fire?
I would include the Globet of Fire aswell, besides reminding me of the Hogwarts Legacy flame logo, it is a tool for magic contracts...but with whom we are making contracts here, what happens if the people it chooses refuse to engage in the triwizard game? It is never explained, but probably something bad
I'm so glad you're playing this game and making content based on it!
I would love to see him playing the game while he talks about all the references to the books and movies the game has.
@@alessandrobispoavelar519 Yes! Like a livestream!
I love your content, it helps me to understand the series (books/movies) more deeply. I like the idea of ancient magic, I feel it's no different from cultural traditions that get passed from generation to generation, like music or food. You honour your ancestors by eating a lovingly prepared meal, and in the HP universe, you do the same by using and passing on a spell that took great effort to create.
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If I had to pin down ancient magic it would be similar to a thing we have in the regular world when talking about ancient beliefs about magic. Ley lines. In HL we see that the magic accumulates seemingly naturally at many locations around the valley. One thing I do remember from my mythology class is that there are major and minor ley lines. Hogwarts would seem to be a nexus of major ley lines which is why the magic of its defenses is extremely strong and the propensity of ghosts is so high.
Some of the old lore about ley lines is that they are a combination of all magic of life and the magical energy of the planet. If you think about it, ley lines behave almost like gravity and pools into locations but the cycle of life and death is the source that keeps replenishing the magical energy. Ancient magic could also begin to accumulate in places that magic is used constantly or some kind of powerful single event happened. I think that those who can see the ley lines and ancient magic are just an even more rare version of magic user. It's like the other rare gifts, parselmouths, metamorphmagi, and the creatures and magic users that are born with legilimency.
Like so many other things there could be levels to this rare gift, having a slight sense of how magic and ancient magic flows and moves could explain how Dumbledore could feel dark and regular magic without using a spell. Lilly could tap into the magic in a moment of crisis to give Harry sacrificial protection but otherwise be unaware of it and unable to see it. In HL we see that those who not only see it but shape it and use it are extremely scarce and that the gift slows their development and why they have their magical emergence later than others.
I think ancient magic is the kind of magic that existed before the invention of wands. Rituals, magic caused by emotional outbursts like the glass disappearing like in book one, Lily's sacrifice to protect Harry giving him lasting protection, etc.
My theory is that Ancient Magic is the foundation for all magic. It’s instinctual, even primal. Before wands, sceptres and the like magic users wielded magic through emotion and instinct. Then witches and wizards honed their abilities through magically imbued tools, which caused this primal magic to recede. I believe it exists in all magic users (humans, goblins, elves etc). Their bodies were the conduits for this magic and now there are secondary conduits like wands. Some are more connected to this ancient magic probably due to their lineage.
One of my favorite ways that magic has been portrayed in literature comes from the Night Watch series from Russian author Sergei Lukyanenko. In his novels, magic is something that blooms "only in rare souls" like Grindelwald claimed, and when a witch ir wizard reach a certain age they are either claimed by the light or dark side (magic is neutral, but the person is influenced by either aspect), so to maintain balance both sides agreed to oversee each other, the Night watch keeps Darksiders in check and the Day watch keeps Lightsiders in check with even numbers and power. In one of novels, the main characters discover the true origin of magic when one of the villains tries to artificially create more magicians: that magic itself is created everyday by ordinary humans, and magicians can sense and use magic because they draw power from humanity. So the magician's strength is determined by their body temperature, since regular humans are 98 degrees and produce magic unknowingly, magicians have a much lower body temperature and therefore absorb magic, so the lower the body temperature, the more magic they absorb and are able to use, so the villains plan of creating many magicians would inadvertently weaken magic for all magicians since there would be less humans producing it. When playing Hogwarts Legacy, and how they talk of ancient magic, this is what kept coming up in my mind. Pretty interesting concept.
That sounds amazing. I really need to check out the night watch now
There's something I've been confused about since finishing the game. At one point, someone recounts the memory of Prof Rackham and his colleagues saving a hamlet and describes it as "four wizards using ancient magic to save a hamlet" or something along those lines. The writing suggests that even though Prof Rackham is the only one of the four who can see and freely manipulate ancient magic, the other three also "wielded" it too? Did anyone else catch this?
It's a mistake in the video. Anyone can theoretically use Ancient Magic. In most cases, people do so unknowingly, as Lilly did when she sacrificed herself. The Hogwarts professors in the game learned to properly wield it from Rackham. But only certain witches and wizards, like Rackham, Isidora and the protagonist can actually see Ancient Magic. Because most people don't actually know about Ancient Magic, it's fairly uncommon for it to be wielded by anyone other than those capable of seeing it, unless taught by one such person.
Perhaps he taught them, even though they cannot see the traces it doesn't mean they can't wield it.
@@CCgivemeawedgy That would also make sense about why they constantly reiterated the need to hide it from "falling into the wrong hands". Their tests didn't seem to be designed to keep out evil users of ancient magic, just ones without the natural proclivity.
Considering how rare it is, it seems like it's possible to wield ancient magic without an affinity for it, which would explain the secrecy.
The game says that some people, like Rackham and main character can only see traces of ancient magic, but it can be used by anyone.
I like to think of ancient magic as coding. Ancient magic is like coding in its original form one's and zeros. It's very powerful and efficient but very difficult. Over time easier and more streamlined versions were created like c++, python, so more people are able to use it. Now lots of people can code but a very very few can actually bust out the old ones and zeros to code. That's why ancient magic doesn't need a wand but modern day magic does.
Always felt like Ancient Magic would cause the end of humanity and the one who wields it that carries that out would be seen as a God. Thats how powerful I think Ancient Magic truly is
As a coder too, this is a good way of putting it. I see it the same way Ancient Magic is the raw source code of the universe, its there, some can interact and use it, but they don't fully grasp the concept in its entirety. Whereas our more commonly seen magic, is your coding languages, very capable, flexible and powerful. But not nearly as flexible and powerful as being able to play in the binary itself, where your possibilities are damn near, if not endless.
Ancient magic is very esoteric as seen in the love protection of Harry's mother. It's seen in the many tropes and themes that humans all share such as redemption and self sacrifice. These are also seen in most ancient fables such as Sleeping Beauty where she is delivered from evil by the warrior prince.
Really like that you are going into the lore of the game.
I think the fidelius charm is also a form of ancient magic. As with 'love' it is to do with another strong human emotion, 'trust' / and 'betrayal'. I am pretty sure in one of your videos about the fidelius charm you have mentioned its cryptic nature as an ancient curse. I feel like ancient magic can be pictured as very primal, unrefined magic, sort of the magic that early witches in the middle ages might have used. On that notion, trust and love magic, make so much sense because they are both very primal in their nature.
With chaotic and primal results….
I don’t know if anyone else has said this yet but one of the ancient magic finishers in the game looks almost identical to the way Molly killed Bellatrix so it’s plausible that Molly’s love for her daughter allowed her to use ancient magic in that moment
Woah, you're right! This is exactly what happened
In the books she uses avada kedavra. In the movie they changed it for the purpose of spectacle
Avada Kadavra is instantaneous, while Bellatrix was able to utter a last "Oh.."
it's more implied to have been an expertly cast version of the same spell Hermione was taken out by during the ministry right in order of the phoenix. Same wand movement, nonverbal cast, struck the same place (the heart) and while Molly's version did not take the form of purple fire, we know that casting a spell perfectly eliminates effects like sparks and light.
Ancient Magic feels a lot like the Force from Star Wars. It is a part of the natural world, connects the world of the living and the dead, it can only wielded by a select few, it exists independently of a witch or wizard, it is almost alive in a way, and it is heavily linked to emotions and intuition.
I also feel like it is extremely difficult to bend it to your will because it is technically beyond you and if you want to utilize it you have to work with the flow instead of against it.
If love is a form of ancient magic, then hear my theories/headcanons:
Children are born with the innate ability to use Ancient Magic. In hogwarts legacy, invoking Ancient magic may reveal or hide objects (as if they're in paralel universe). The spontaneous magic cast by children who has no control of their magic, is most likely some form of magic chat is tied to their emotions. Remember when angry harry causes the mirror Dudley leans on disappear? Only for it to reappear? Thus, ancient magic born from rage/anger.
Ancient Magic is the ability to harness flow of magic OUTSIDE the self, manipulating nature, time, emotions, existence. The basic form of everything.
While normal magic uses inherent magic from oneself (thus the existence of Obscurus in Fantastic Beasts). As witches/wizards grew up relying on their "core self" magic, they somehow forgot how to use Ancient Magic.
Let's see my other headcanons about some Ancient Magic attacks in the game:
Ancient Magic Throw where the protagonist throws objects to the enemy, what's the difference with other object-manipulating spells (accio, depulso, wingardium leviosa, levioso)?
Ancient magic throw manipulates the very atoms of the object, that's why you see no magical effect when the object is thrown.
While spells like wingardium leviosa conjures an invisible hand that lifts the object. That's why you see some "windy flow effect" around the object.
Ancient Magic that kills/deals damage to enemies from the inside, what's the difference with Avada Kedavra?
Ancient magic that deals damage, simply forces cells inside the body to disintegrate, causing major damage at best (on high level enemies and trolls), and fatal at worst (insta kills most enemies).
Avada Kedavra, in my headcanon, is doing a tug of war on someone else' soul, killing them instantly.
Ancient Magic that (SPOILERS) takes away pain and emotions from others, what's the difference with Imperio?
Ancient Magic that takes away pain, literally takes away emotions in it's visible form. But it can be stored in a goblin made container. But when you take all of it, the person became an empty shell (as seen in San Bakar's pensieve.
Imperio? It surpress the emotion/the ego of the self, while instilling the emotion/ego of the enemy above that layer. Which is why it can be resisted, because the original is still there.
This also relates to why Harry has his blood infused with Lily's love to protect against Killing Curse.
While the final Boss, Ranrok is protected by ancient magic that prevents Avada Kedavra to instakill.
interesting.
no reason to say headcanon as the game itselff is not canon
I think ancient magic has to atleast be somewhat tied to emotions like love, like with harrys mom, and since in the game we learn that the containers of ancient magic is actually peoples pain and emotions extracted from them but it left the people emotionless and gave who ever harnessed the emotions op powers. Also, maybe the ancient magic is within every person and is part of their soul somehow, since the removal of peoples pain resulted in them acting as if they had the dementors kiss. So if ancient magic is tied to the soul then perhaps voldemort could use it since he was able to split his soul and was presumably the first to do it in ages.
*tl;dr* Emotion is not ancient magic, ancient magic just has the ability to manipulate nature in ways normal magic can't.
That witch used ancient magic to extract emotions, the emotion magic isnt ancient magic, she just used that to get even more powerful, which corrupted her because she was taking in other peoples negativity.
She believed they shouldnt be hiding the magic and they should use it, which is what she was doing.
Creating horcruxes is not a part of ancient magic, it's an extremely taboo dark art, it's written about in the "darkest of arts" book the game pokes fun at by just having it casually in view in a few quests, but it's actually an extremely powerful and dangerous book that shouldnt be in plain sight. Also nothing to do with ancient magic.
The game makes it painfully clear, people being able to see and wield ancient magic happens very rarely, its not within everybody, the professors in the paintings and your character are the only people known/confirmed to have its abilities. The lore of *what* it is, is more or less established. It's a powerful form of magic that can manipulate the world around the caster in ways normal magic cant. Like changing the weather, altering the ecosystem, removing emotion. All seen in the game.
Interesting theory! But for Voldemort I'd argue that ancient magic was actually his weakness, and that he didn't consider that when he split his soul how much power he'd lose by doing it. He couldn't possess those with a pure soul any longer without excruciating pain, and disregarded wandless house elf magic which I think is connected to ancient magic as well.
@@noodle_Cx There however is a huge connection between emotion's and ancient magic just like how lilly unknowingly used one. Those are natural Ancient Magic tho it doesnt mean that lily was able to wield it. But yeah it was pure just like ancient magic so she did use it. Look at the game. Your character is so angry using ancient magic against enemies turning a huge spider into little one and stepping on it. Blowing them up from existence. Making them burn so not even water helps etc. etc. So Ancient magic is not Emotion but there is a connection.
Do you take a pinch of salt to throw over your left shoulder to keep bad luck away if you spill some salt by accident? I may have already performed some ancient magic! No shoes on the bed, no open umbrellas in the house, never cross knives in the drawer, even by accident? It's supposed to cause fights, according to my nan, who had it from her Scottish mother!
@@noodle_Cx you can use ancient magic without seeing it, only one of the four guardians can see ancient magic
Terence McKenna has a great lecture on how magic is essential when reality is made of language. With scriptures from the hermetica itself. It taught me a lot, if you know the word. You can sing it into existence. That's why it's called a "spell"
Wandlore is likely another branch of ancient magic
Video idea for you to do:
What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
I'd like to believe that Dumbledore stumbled upon and spoke to Rakham's painting in his younger years. Those two talking would be a fangasm.
I think that ancient magic is what we would consider an art, in contrast to the scientific process that we seen in common, everyday magic. Art, after all, is spontaneous and unique. A depiction of the soul.
Here an idea for a video, how different are each house in Legacy compared to when Harry Potter goes to Hogwarts. Slytherin particular not portrayed has evil it was in the books, this point to Voldemort being far more responsible for the bad reputation than we give him credit for.
Actually very few people knew that Voldemort was Tom Riddle. So no it wasn’t because of him… this is even mentioned in the movies
@@emperorpalpatine6500 most death eaters were slitherin
Thought it was interesting that it is mentioned in the movies that (paraphrasing) "there isn't a Slytherin today that hasn't gone bad" ... Yet we see in Hogwarts Legacy that Ominis Gaunt is very much the antithesis of this statement, while also being a direct ancestor of Tom Riddle himself. I think you may be on to something with this. I wonder if Tom created a lasting negative perception of Slytherin. I believe Merlin was also a Slytherin, which furthermore supports the idea that the house itself wasn't always filled with dark witches and wizards....
@@corackadile - You got that paraphrasing backwards.... its not that every single slytherin goes bad.... its that all bad wizards came from slytherin..
Quote: "There was not a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin".
Also, if you do a certain side quest, you get to find out more about the founder of Slytherin and well, lets just say, he wasnt really a super nice guy..lol.
I always viewed ancient magic as nothing more than the raw and untapped power of magic in its purest form. It’s the source of all magic, and so connecting to it would be unpredictable, dangerous and most definitely powerful.
Connecting to it would mean doing so through powerful means, such as emotions, memories, tools or rare genetics. It makes sense that love, emotions and powerful memories would bolster someone’s connection to magic, as they can be the rawest and most pure parts of ourselves - hence a connection to a form of ancient magic.
This could be another example of ancient magic in Harry Potter. The way ancient magic looks in game feels like this is how Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange.
Movie lore is... special.
I think that it could be a natural law (3:44) because as you point out the fact that some creatures are more magical than others (4:18), and I suggest, because of that, that it's like how primates (humans included), are the best animals at grabbing things because we have opposable thumbs. The proof for my theory is this: genetic mutations of our ancestors are what gives us our powers (4:45), and that the earliest real humans are what we could relate to early wizards (5:13), and that other primates are just regular humans.
In summary, I think that magic is what we could consider as the difference between us and other primates, but instead of genetics and evolution (in the standard form), it's more about abilities and chance.
Holy crap Gaara is ninja Harry Potter....think about it....the more you think about it the more it makes sense. When he mentioned Lily’s sacrifice creating a magical shield to protect harry after her death and throughout his life it all just clicked
The framing of ancient magic seems to be that it's more instinctive and primal, and less something you use but more something that happens when it's needed. Hopefully not in a The Force sort of way. The fact that it's called ancient seems to imply it was the only form of magic in prehistory, until people began to categorize and form its use intentionally rather than from instinct. Legacy represents its effects as being fairly random, even if called upon. All of them seem to draw on life and the natural world, though. Having access to it seems to be a bit like having a car race, but your ride is a zoo animal you didn't get to pick.
Ancient magic could be a fabric of reality and those who can use it can alter reality.
Too basic
Thank u for not spoiling, ur a true one
Please more hogwarts legacy lore
An idea going off the love protection for Harry, maybe the emotions coincide with Ancient Magic
And maybe welders of ancient magic find they can do it in 5th year usually because thats when they actually start to grow emotionally??
I think that Dumbledore could use ancient magic as well. Either he may have been able to use it himself or the elder wand might function as some sort of conduit for ancient magic (as one of the mentioned artifacts its bound to be infused with it). I mean some of his spells are just way more powerful than regular magic spells (at least in the movies they look that way).
Ancient Magic to me would also include the Life Debt between Wormtail and Harry. It's magic that you do not need prior knowledge of - or spellwork - to invoke, but magic that comes as a byproduct of a metaphysically seismic deed like sacrificing your life for others or saving/sparing a life.
We need a deep dive on wandless magic
On the way!
and why aren't there any staffs?
@@6thHokageJuan moody used one?
@@user-tz8el7tk7z they did? what his walking cane thing?
@@6thHokageJuan i remember him using his cane on multiple occasions for magic.
I am pretty sure that "ancient magic" is the stuff the House Elves and Goblins use. Its "ancient" because it predates wands. I feel like this is mentioned in the books.
Perhaps the locked door in the department of mysteries (where Unspeakables research the power of love) is linked to ancient magic as well.
Dumbledore displayed ancient magic practices quite a few times .. it all has to do with how much a wizard or witch knows... Main thing about ancient magic, no need for a wand... Quite a few times Dumbledore didn't use a wand to perform magic... Example, when they were going to take him to Azkaban and his phoenix flew over him and he clapped his hands together and aparated...
True but wandless magicks are possible. There's the school in Africa that doesn't even use wands, they do wandless magick all the time. They aren't ancient Magick wielders like the MC etc of Hogwarts Legacy.
My theory is that the origin of ancient magic is divine. We know that mythological creatures exist in the Harry Potter universe. Given that, it would make sense for gods to also exist. Wizards are probably the descendants of gods and humans or maybe even angels/humans mating in the ancient past. I suspect that this blood is present in all humans too, but in some lineages it is stronger than others, and when it is strong enough, it makes a person a wizard/witch. This would explain why some muggle families suddenly find they have a witch/wizard in the family, despite no one in their family tree being magical. Perhaps in such cases, the parents had too weak of a connection to the divine on their own, but together produce a child who is strong enough in those divine energies to make them able to wield magic.
Another likely answer is that humans and faeries, goblins, etc. have interbred, and that interbreeding has resulted in humans who have magic. We know that Giants and humans and Goblins and humans have mated before, as Hagrid is half giant and Flitwick has Goblin blood. Presumably there are loads of magical creatures that can cross with humans, not just those two, so maybe wizards are human descendants of more common unions with such beings in the past.
Gross I love it
We seen mama weisley use ancient magic in the movie when she was fighting bellatrix Le Strange which is what made her "pop"
I think that ancient magic is probably a mix to theory 1 and 4. That is it’s exist and a part of every living thing and pools in a ancient location. And was control by the first magic users and over time as magic is getting more formalised and taught. Witch’s and wizards have lost the ability with the more ethereal ancient magic.
First explanation: Primordial. Links with having to *understand* magic on a deeper level
Second explanation: Developed. Rarity. Not much else to it
Third explanation: Necromantic, in nature. Understanding what death is, in order to master it, and weave the magic of death to your will
Fourth explanation: Earliest known magic. Makes sense, in a way. The earliest magics to be discovered would naturally be the least known about, similar to how did the first cell form. How did the first magic come to be? How does it work?
2:41
“Grindelwald’s wand was this big”
My theory is that it's Wild Magic, as depicted in the chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. It's a type of magic that can break all the rules, is difficult to control, and is very powerful.
No White Gold link in the game, but it seems to work in a similar manner.
I like your first and fourth theories. Still wonder why it presents in witches and wizards in their fifth year, though
I have my own theory about the origin of ancient magic. It all started, like wizarding magic itself, when a group of humans were chosen to travel to a realm outside of earth and thus wield the magic within that realm. Then, when some of their descendants came back to earth (or when some refused to make the trip, becoming the very first muggle-borns) they brought their magic into the “real” world. This answer, I think, ties into the existing lore and expands upon it in a way that makes sense.
As for what ancient magic is, I like the idea that it is tied closely to love, since even in our world love can cause people to do utterly mind-boggling things.
This is unrelated, but I like the concept of ancient magic in the Harry Potter books, since it explains some of the nuances within the story. The key example is when Lily’s sacrifice triggers the magic while James’ sacrifice does not.
Considering the end goal and powers of the villains of the games, along with the fact that "love" is considered ancient magic.
I'd say the best theory is that ancient magic has to do with emotion, and the raw fabrics between the spirit world and mortal world, this is somewhat tied with the dementors kiss, and how they steal all emotion from you, and in doing so take your "soul", linking emotions and spirits. Also, for those who have beaten the game, you know why emotions are relevant to the "ancient magic" discussion brought up in the game.
It's likely ancient magic that made dementors.
It may also play a role in the 3 unforgivable curses, that require someone to "truly mean it" when they attempt to cast them, as they may require the true emotional response needed to cast.
Also, the deathly hallows are tied to emotion, the elder wand being pride (Antioch wanting the prove he was the most powerful wizard, with a wand to beat all others), the stone being greed (Cadmus wanting to humiliate death even further, and get back something he felt was taken from him), and the cloak being humility (Ignotus literally being called "a humble man" in the story). Dragons are considered prideful creatures, implying pride might be the ancient magic affecting their scales. etc.
These feelings and concepts and emotions are all seemingly tied to the most powerful spells, artifacts, and creatures in the HP universe.
A wizard in blizzards, eating lizards in 1066
Lizards? 😏
Great channel can’t believe I’m just finding it now!
Thanks for not spoiling
Thanks for a non-spoiler video. I'm 50 hours into the game but haven't finished it yet because I'm exploring a lot.
Here’s my theory: many Millenia ago (long before even the Hogwarts founders), ancient magic was everywhere, and everyone could use it, because ultimately it was tied to the soul, which everyone obviously has…eventually people started to argue over how the magic was used and the long term consequences it had on the world , some believed they shouldn’t depend on it so much…this philosophical rift soon became so huge that it led to a war which nearly destroyed the entire world, and cost many lives …. And so it seemed the ancient magic disappeared and the majority of the worlds population evolved as muggles….but small groups of magic users remained, however their magic was somewhat weaker compared to the ancient magic, this is the traditional magic used by the wizarding world today … to protect themselves they kept themselves hidden from the non magic users, but even still, the old ancient magic was thought to be lost, dormant, hidden away…but every few generations there are rare wizards born who can see traces of the ancient magic , and use it to influence “regular” magic in ways never seen before…eventually four of these special wizards are born and together create Hogwarts using this ancient magic, a true “stronghold / foundation of ancient magic”…
I’m just assuming it’s something similar to The Witcher series where there is a base level magic where people can tap into it and then you have “sources” people who can fully manipulate it/become one with it either based on genetics, or whatever they came up with in the last Star Wars where it chooses who can control it which would imply it’s at least semi conscious.
When I play the game, I assume that ancient magic is similar to natural mana in Black Clover. Wizards can harness the magic in the natural world instead of jus the magic in their veins that’s why their spells are so powerful and random
Could it be possible that ancient magic is seen as more powerful due to fewer people possibly having less knowledge of it? In older times, access to written text and information in general was limited. So magic from the past may have fewer people who know how to conjure it. And in the case of dark magic fewer may know how to defend against it.
I like theory 1 and know in my heart that there is natural energy all around us that some are able to channel which kind of blends into a couple of the other ones.
Enjoy your content.
You have a very soothing voice. Love to hear you while I go to bed ❤.
As a practitioner of ancient magic most of this is spot on. Others in my family could practice their psychic abilities in a somewhat easy way. I was a late bloomer and got got started in magic not until i was in my thirties. I realized at some point that my psychic abilities were different than others around me and the way i did magic/do magic doesn’t require tools in the same way as others. They talk to the Gods and Goddesses. I tap into the fabric of the universe, the dead, elementals and some other forces that appear to be inaccessible by most other people around me. I didn’t realize i was doing it differently until i heard others talk about their magical practices. Oh well.
Personally I believe ancient magic can only be used if someone follows/completes certain prerequisites (like: willingly sacrificing will cast a powerful protection magic).
What did the main character do then?
@@TheGreatDearLeaderJimPickens are you talking about hogwarts legacy?
@@logic_bot3753 Yes indeed
Ancient magic in the books: Protective.
Ancient magic in Hogwarts Legacy: Lol, lets direct a lightning on this poor poacher and let the other poacher hit the ground hard multiple times till lifeless. Haha yes.
only time i remember them mentioning ancient magic in the original books is when dumbledore describes the protection spelll lily used on harry as ancient magic
the whispers to those who have the potential ability to harness ancient magic made me immediately think of luna with her various creatures and ability to just know things she werent told.
I actually wrote a fan fiction on a (now defunct) blog site some years back on ancient magic. This was my fan theory:
Ancient magic is simply primordial magic not from this plane of existence. It’s more powerful because humans were never meant to have it. Humans could only wield it either through Divine intervention (i.e. God granting power to Old Testament figures like Moses) or from infernal beings (deal with the devil). I imagined the latter was more common, which is what caused muggles to view magic as evil. However, one witch/wizard managed to trick the infernal being into granting ancient magic not only to them, but all their descendants. This would explain how some wizards and witches can wield it, while others can’t.
The Peverells, Potters, Dumbledores, and Voldemort are all descendants from that one particular witch/wizard.
I’m not butthurt that Avalanche introduced ancient magic on a grander scale. But perhaps my idea will turn out to be similar to future explanations 😅
I have a suspicion Lily could wield ancient magic.
I think of Ancient Magic as a high-pressure system that Wizards/Witches can tap into for the purpose of particular Ancient Magic spell casting, as opposed to using their own latent magical power.
Like, if Ancient Magic is the air inside a balloon, then a Wizard casting an Ancient Magic spell is poking a hole in that balloon and harnessing the power rushing out of it for their particular spell, or purpose.
I think Harry causing the glass to disappear on Dudley at the Zoo is an example of Ancient Magic wielded completely by accident.
Personally I wonder if Ancient Magic weilders are the founding members of Wizarding Families. After all, if magic is a genetic trait, with Muggle-borns having at least some Squib ancestry, then where did the pure-blood families come from? If a random human is born with the potential to see and weild Ancient Magic, that would explain why the trait doesn't appear until near the end of puberty, and why the wizards we know are actually inheriting a watered-down version of magic.
So it is now canon that ancient magic are indeed more powerful and raw than the newer ones, albeit only a few chosen ones can successfully cast them or at the height of one's emotions (Lily). There's a theory that's popular before the release of the game that said ancient magic are weak compared to the modern ones because the modern are actually refined, made stronger thru the directions of incantations, akin to science. Well, looks like ancient magic rocks now! :3
The book The Demonata by Darren Shan although not at all related to Harry Potter. Also talks about ancient magic. And have a very good explanation on what it is that can very much be applied to Harry Potter.
I'm grateful at least someone is covering Hogwarts Legacty lore.
I think ancient magic is one of the earliest type of pure energy and magic. Like it was the magic itself before spells were even considered, like it was magic but without any spell or incantation.
Maybe witches and wizards (like Merlin, Rackham, Isadora, and I think even Dumbledore) posessed these abilities and that made them so powerful.
I always loved the tought that the protagonist of HL is far more powerfull than Harry because of his/her ancient magic.
I cannot speak for JK Rowling, of course, but it would seem that she intended these references to ancient magic to imply that all of us in the real world are subject to that ancient magic. Love and sacrifice, innocence and devotion - the things that make all humans great - these are powerful forms of magic that Voldemort lacked. They were the extremely powerful forms of magic that Harry had which allowed him to defeat Voldemort. The most magical aspect of the Harry Potter universe is that all of us have access in the real world to the most powerful magic Harry Potter could imagine...
"Ancient magic does not require the use of wands.... Few can weild it.... It's considered dangerous and should be restricted..."
Seems to me that "Wands" were invented and became the common basis for most magic used by wizards as a way to LIMIT the use of "Ancient" magic by the population. Wands really are a handicap, training ones to use magic through them is a nerfing strategy. The limited understanding of wands "The seemingly all important lifeblood of wizarding existence" Really does support this hypothesis, as wouldn't you think the wizarding world would know wand law inside and out better then any other skill or trade they have? It's like a mechanic not understanding how an internal combustion engine works. Seem strange to you that broken wands are seemingly unfixable yet they can be "created" in the first place? Seems to me that either Wizards got lazy and started using wands to condense their powers to lessen the time to becoming proficient versus the longer path of natural magic, or wands were a side tool that just kinda got used and modernized overtime, like a side arm went from ball muskets to rifles. Or... and this is my favorite, the wizarding world was bambozzeled eons ago Sauron style into using this nerf sticks by some unseen evil to make the wizards easy to manipulate... or perhaps done to prevent them from obliterating the earth, Eitherway.... wands.... are a choke collar. I mean hell, look how fucking powerful an untrained house elf like dobbie is?! If dobbie can do that with simple innate power, imagine how insanely powerful an average well trained witch or wizard would be without the wand?! They would be gods.
Ohhhh I like that evil theory , higher ups secretly controlling/running the world … scandalous
priori incantartum or whatever it's called when Harry and Voldemorts wands refused to kill each other sounds like it could be ancient magic as well
No spoilers is clutch, awesome content as ever
Would love an episode on examples of casting magic without wands as it was mentioned in Hogwarts Legacy that the Ugandan school don't use any wands so interested to know how prevalent is it in the lore
Given the nature of the Harry Potter stories, I would think it is similar to the deep magic of Narnia. The fundamentally “magical” foundation of the reality, or rather Divine Providence. That is why it is tied to things like love and sacrifice.
The 5th year late bloomers kind of reminded of Albus Potter, perhaps he inherits it from his grandma Lilly. If god forbid cursed child got a sequel (to try to fix/salvage whatever mess the original was, and capitalise on the commercial success) then I think that could possibly be interesting to explore ancient magic in that format.
Theory 1 is basically implying those who can use it are Force sensitives, going to Hogwarts to become Jedi
Does that make Dumbledore Yoda?
My theory is that there's an elective class that becomes available to fifth years that unknowingly or knowingly teaches the concepts needed to perform ancient magic. Perhaps the history of magic? But regardless, a class that most students think to be useless or boring.
But the concepts are philosophical and not literal, which would require one to focus on the nature of magic itself and not just the forces it can wield. That would explain why very few unlock the talent, only few are able to understand and piece together the concepts the elective teaches.
It would also explain how Voldemort and Dumbledore have access to what appears to be minor forms of ancient magic while others don't. They were incredibly intelligent and curious students and absolutely would've seen the pieces of the puzzle and known how to put them together.
Where Tom Riddle would try and harness ancient magic for domination, a young Dumbledore would've seen the value in it's protective qualities. It only makes sense that the most powerful wizards alive would've studied the root of magic itself.
Definitely a thinking point at least😂😂😂
What a cool video 🤩 one of the best of the channel
The fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort was basically an ancient magic showcase.
I think ancient magic is a lot like Chaos Magic, it doesn't really have rules and its like the pure energy of reality being bended
ancient magic is just something they stuck in the game for the sake of plot. its not tied to the rest of the wizarding world and doesnt have any deeper meaning
Didn't watch the whole thing huh
@@jameer7565 Hogwarts Legacy isn't canon, the ancient magic mentioned in the video is what Rowling intended to it to be: strong emotions that every human (magical and not) posses and what Voldemort lacked. It has nothing related to ancient magic from the game.
I originally assumed that Ancient Magic was just the magic that naturally existed in nature, and would often cause various natural phenomena. Like how ruins could have magical mechanics which had occured naturally and not placed by someone.
Basically, it's the magical version of the Laws of Physics. That's what I assumed.
I think ancient magic was more archaic but more power form of magic as in harry potter its confirmed the magic of love is the most ancient and most powerful type of magic, how ancient magic attacks in the legacy game affects enemies looks to be like much more powerful so powerful it can disintegrate targets, and summon lightning from the sky,
Seems likely it was also magic that merlin also wielded as hes regarded as the most powerful wizard to exist and hes ancient by the time of the legacy game so its possible it is magic that can affect reality on a much deeper level then normal magic
Can you make a video explaining if hogwarts legacy is canon?
It's not
Technically not, but it's not like Rowling is going to write any new books so everything that's being made right now is just an extension from the original. But of course, when making new video games or films, inspiration is also taken from each other eg. The concept of saving animals with a bag in Hogwarts Legacy is taken directly from Fantastic Beasts. So yes technically it's not canon but anything that is going to expand the Harry Potter universe is going to take into account everything that's been made before it especially with a game franchise which is going to be this big (they're very likely going to make more hogwarts legacy games, that's already been announced) so you can interpret it as canon in my opinion.
It really depends on what you consider to be canon. It's not part of Rowling's canon, as much as the MCU is not part of any Marvel Comics canon. But as far as Warner Bros. is concerned, they will very likely consider it canon for any future projects under their control.
@@DerLetzteMonarch ah so probably the books are going to be it’s own canon while Warner bros continues to create its own canon?
@@nikegoon2395 the good old Artist/Author VS Copy right owner cannon debate.....it's like with Dragon Ball....
im starting to believe that the deathly hallows are instruments of ancient magic
Thanks for not including game spoilers
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