FINAL RESULTS // How To Get Rid of Bermuda in St Augustine Grass (and zoysia)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- The verdict is in, here are my results from a spring application of Recognition herbicide and Fusilade2 with a spike of Halosulfuron for kyllinga sedges.
Here is the first video I did with this mix in the fall of 2023:
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Here is the detailed blog post showing mix rates and label considerations:
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Halo for sedges, safe for all grass types:
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Why dont we have more zoysia content creators. We struggling. Thanks for making this video. We zoysia folks need it
Here here more Zoysia content.
Glad I’m not the only dude in Florida completely sweating through a shirt while working in the lawn during the summer.
Next test Reeecog-nition and Quinclorac for Torpedo Grass?!
Not for SA
@@BrandonSeymour There's a thread on The Lawn Forum of someone testing this... the St Augustine takes a little hit, but not enough where it's not recovering.
So good!
Looking good!
Allyn we needed this video so badly brotha! Been a follower for years, thank you for everything you teach, you’ve allowed me to dominate on a different level. Love all your content, especially when you had a heart to heart with the zoysia about the disease scars and praying before you cut the stolons lmao. God bless!
Did my first application last fall out by the street and it worked well. Did my second about three weeks ago along the driveway where I have had issues for years.. Waiting for results. I love being able to attack this problem. Thanks for bring this solution to us yard fert folks. Really glad I got my fusilade 2 and recognition last year. You are right it is much harder to attain now.
Dude me and my boss been battling this Bermuda for some time now
Props on video
Stoked
Our competitors did this mix and had great results as well !!
I think he got the idea from you to be honest!!
Keep on doing your thing lcn
Just the video I wanted to see. My St Augustine is mighty. Was hoping it would get rid of the Bermuda on its own last year. This year really spoofed up the condition of my soil and St Aug is crazy thick. Still seeing that ugly Bermuda in 2 large patches. Going to give your remedy a try. Thanks LCN!!
Quick agitation was my nickname in college. 😂❤
Legend
I need a good variety of measuring cups like yours, big and small
I applied in early spring and it worked pretty well for me, but I've had to reapply as Bermuda is pretty tenacious. Hopefully my St. Aug will start taking over more as we head into summer.
yeah I am wondering how long it will take the bermuda to come back in mine - hopefully it stays out for at least a year or more
Looks good!
Are there any heat restrictions with the chems?
...but will the Bermuda stay gone? That is the question.
That’s like asking if the crabgrass is gone for good.
Probably have to spray it annually for a few years.
oh it will come back for sure, I just have to stay on top of it
I just did my first application of this formula to kill my wild bermuda that has been invading my zoysia for the last 2yrs. The Fusilade rate is almost 5X (!) the rate I used last year with Triclopyr instead of Recognition. So far, the results have been amazing and the Bermuda looks dead while it didn't even touch the Zoysia. Very happy with Recognition/Fusilade combo! Not sure if it will ever kill the Bermuda completely but I think I'll hit it one more time in about 6wks and once a year after that to keep it out of my Zoysia. I hate wild Bermuda!
Where can I get Recognition?
mad scientist !!
these are fun to make!
@Thelawncarenut what ypu thpught on applying this mix now with the current temps? I'm in the south east VA region. Temps in the high 80s and mid 90s. Zoysia growing well but the common bermuda devil grass is moving in.
Do you have or can you do a video on growing solid grass under shaded oak trees, and chinch bug prevention
Spraying and praying! Pure LCN gold 🤩 Word on the street is if you add Quinclorac to the that mix it can burn up Torpedo grass. Any thoughts?? 🤔🇺🇸🤠
this mix alone is supposed to kill torpedo but I did not see results in my first test. This second time I have no torpedograss in my lawn so I again wasn't able to really test it. Maybe on the next one I will be able to try again. One thing I do know is that quinclorac kills St Aug so I'd be careful using it in this way.
Let's get some of this product available for DIY guys like me who have a small area of bermuda infestation... Maybe about 2k SF worth to treat...I don't want to spend $300 on that... :D
Recognition product label Section 5.2 “Use Precautions” states that Provista and Captiva St.Aug are more sensitive to injury from Recognition and should not be applied unless turf injury can be tolerated. FYI to those with Provista St.Aug.
Recognition is shown to be safe on Floratam, Raleigh, Palmetto, and SunClipse.
An important point not sure was mentioned is that the purpose of Recognition is a "safener" to protect the St Aug from the Fusilade II. The Fusilade II is what is killing the bermuda.
yes that's a good call out. One of the other bonuses of using Recognition is it does kill clover, nutsedge, dollar weed and kyllinga - all of which infest lawns on the west coast of FL. It's really a good combination weed control all around.
Can Provista St Augustine grass be safely treated with the Fusilade II and Recognition mixture? I have Nutsedge taking over my new Provista lawn. Glyphosate did not kill it. I wanted to make sure that the safener was applicable to all St Augustine.
@@TXAGS81 it would be easier and cheaper to use sedgehammer for ProVista. ruclips.net/video/742UZRWH0-M/видео.html
I haven’t read labels yet - any temp restrictions? Wondering if the combo can be applied in summer.
Are there any heat restrictions with applying this cocktail?
Love the hidden adult content.....you seem to add those every video :)
Will this combo work in centipede grass?? I’ve got Bermuda spreading all in my grass.
I would've cut the grass a half inch or so lower than typical. Then sprayed, knowing I'd added the extra nitrogen to the mix for quicker recovery of St Aug after the spray process. I also would not water lawn for initial 24 hrs min after spray . I have St Aug mostly, but Centipede too and yes Bermuda mixes in perhaps 2/3 of my acr lot (of which perhaps 1/2 acre is grass). I 100% need to do this and considering the quantity you mixed (for 3k sq ft) I'd probably mix/spray my whole yard though cause in areas where the St Aug is thickest, it's harder to see the Bermuda mixed within it.
It’s in the 90’s in Houston now is it to hot to use this? I’m also getting ready to apply some Celsius can I mix the three together with some green charge? The St Augustine is growing like crazy with the rain we’ve been getting. I’d like to take care of it so it will fill in with the aggressive growth we are seeing.
Can you try this mix out on some St Aug with intruding centipede grass? Neither herbicide lists it as safe for centipede but neither claim to control centipede either so I’m wondering if it’ll knock out the centipede that’s also in my lawn. I’ll do it myself eventually if I can ever find a place with re-cognition in stock…
Will this work for torpedo grass in centipede lawn? I think builder gave me contaminated sod.
Thank you for this Alynn. I need this stuff where can I buy this?
check out your local Site One
Damn, this is the next best thing to a cancer cure. Lets hope the availability and price changes by summer 2025
it's doubtful that the prices will come down at all over the next 5 years. These big pharma companies have to recover their research money
Sure would be nice if we could find recognition!!!!! I have been waiting since last year when you first talked about this combo. I have never once seen it in stock. Anywhere.
call your local Site One often - they should be able to tell you when it will be back in stock
@@Thelawncarenut You must be a psychic....!
After I made the comment I started thinking I hadn't looked in the last few weeks. Pulled up Site One and and lo and behold, it was in stock. Rode over there today and got a bottle. Not bad price either. A decent amount cheaper than a large 'do it yourself' website that sells a lot of these chems.
My local SiteOne store has it in stock but they won't sell it to non-contractors 😢
Definitely more of one of Alen's mad scientist episodes LOL
yeah these are fun!
Will this combination kill torpedo grass? If not, what will?
What’s the update on torpedo with this mixture?
What about a mix to kill torpedo grass? Will this work for that too?
9:42 is there a liquid version or just the grass coke only? Lol
What about Wild Bermuda in Cold Season Grasses?
Any ideas if this would be a good protocol to kill off hybrid Bermuda mixed with other random grasses, and how soon before a reseed is possible? Thank you!
Is there a temperature that it needs to be applied on? Such as apply under 90 degrees or above 30 degrees etc?
Would it be okay to use Methylated Seed Oil as a surfactant with this mix, or does it need to be a non ionic surfactant?
Can we please get a similar test for torpedo in st Augustine?
Yes I'll do that during the summer for sure
Buschhhhhh
At 10:08- "...a slow kill all the way down to the nutlets..." Sounds a bit like marriage.
I am about to do this on my Zeon Zoysia. Got some common Bermuda to kill! @thelawncarenut it says recognition and fusilade2 also treats sedges, but you also added sedgehammer? does it not do a good enough job?
I am desperate to get rid of wild Bermuda in my Bahia, it's becoming more Bermuda than Bahia, and it's around all edges of my yard. PLEASE HELP!!
Who are the people to call that do it professionally? Want to know who does it for residential in Laredo , Tx
Thank you.
And where can I buy the Recognition? It’s been unavailable since 2023. Looks like only the commercial gardeners have access to recog. 😤
How do I get rid of Bermuda in centipede lawn?
Quinclorac, it is herbicide for crabgrass but not friendly to centipede or st Aug. best way to rid of it imo
Noticed you applied in the middle of the day, the label of Fusilade talks about applying in the evening, night, or cloudy conditions. Do you have any opinions on if that is really effective? I'm in Tampa so similar weather to you and have had less success with this combo in the past. I could be walking too fast to get enough down but after re-reading the label i thought maybe the time of day might be working against me too.
time of day really isn't too big of a factor. More likely like you mentioned the walking speed was off and the chems didn't get good contact with the bermuda. I do stand behind the mix - it's worked very well for me in St Augustine and zoysia
Great video brother. Hey Al can I mix HYDRETAIN ,RGS . HUMIC 12 together? Trying hydretain for the first time I am in New Jersey TTTF & KBG . 👍🏻
yes you can, and water it all in together.
@@Thelawncarenut Thank you sir.👍🏻🇺🇸
Any torpedo grass in there get affected this time around? Took your advice and avoided buying the mix for my torpedo grass in st aug problem last year, but still living with it.
I did not have any torpedo visible when I did the app so I didn't get to test it. I'll for sure do another test on another property and see how it does
Question, your mix with the Fusillade seem high, bottle for Fescue says, .07 to .14 max per gallon H2O and 1000' would you keep that lable recomendation?
the label reco in this video is to kill bermuda in St Aug. I have not looked at other grass types or their instructions.
Holy cow I'm in Tennessee and the Bermuda grass is awful. I've never experienced it before and it's been challenging for me.
I've been trying to find this stuff in stock somewhere for almost a year now. So sick of my neighbor's bermuda invading my Zoysia - but no one ever seems to have it.
it's all us DIYers buying it up. Call your local Site One - they can get it, just may take time
Allyn I’m core aerating today and was wondering how soon the stress blend will get to me if I order it today? Is there a way to pay for express shipping?
depends where you live but since this is the weekend, probably get to you on Wednesday or so.
do you have anything to get rid of the crabs from my yard? someone said i have crabgrass.
Google is your friend.
Can you apply the ecto cooler now where you live?
Never mind, time is everything when applying N.
Do you ever worry about the sheer amount of chemicals you spray on your lawn/lawns? I always second guess myself and end up just doing what I can by hand in worry of the potential long term effects. I stress my kids who 99% of the time are playing outside are not always wearing shoes here in FL. Love the channel tho dude! Gimme more of that BAHIAAAAAAAA vids!
it's a give and take type situation for sure. One thing's for sure, I do my best to follow the label when it comes to re-entry periods and such. Here is a blog post where I went into detail: thelawncarenut.com/blogs/news/are-lawn-chemicals-safe
Hey Y'All. Another guy SMOKES his weeds
Hey Allyn I’m up north. How do I get rid of creeping Charlie ?
I've found that Tzone and SpeedZone both work very well in getting rid of Creeping Charlie.
@@Yanutka1 thank you
I bought spoon juice and the bottle says 3% humic acid i thought it was 10% humic in spoon juice?
Where can we find it?
Does this knock out torpedo grass?
Is HALO safe for other plants in flower bed?
I did a test over the top of perennial peanut and will be showing the results this weekend
Fusilade smell smells like a lawnmower shop kinda like oil and gas
Will that work for removing Bermuda out of Centipede lawns?
For Recognition I got .03 per 1000 from the label, but I see you're using .85 per 1,000. Is that correct?
I guess it will not work on Bahia.
Where the link for the products?
you gotta search these out - they are not easy to find right now.
I guess it will not work on bahia?
The active ingredient, something along the lines of Stythoxy, (Hi-yield brand) worked for my Bahia yard. Took about two years, tho
Can I use this mix to get Bermuda out of centipede?
I'm not sure on that one - here is the page that contains multiple PDFs you can download to learn about the combinations they recommend. I didn't notice if centipede was listed or not when I was doing my research. www.greencastonline.com/products/recognition-herbicide/turf
Surfactant is the first thing you put in , water , surfactant, shake and then add whatever you fancy. Im in agro and its a rule of thumb buddy!!!
You won't know if it works until next season. You always have been able to control Bermuda but not kill it to where it never comes back. Kill and control are 2 different things
Maybe the nitrogen helped the bermuda for a bit, but eventually the herbicide takes over and kills the plant.
The recognition label says nothing about killing bermuda grass and Fusilade2 is verbally stated to not be compatible with St. Augustine grass. The lable states Only compatible with Zoysia grass! What variety of St Augstine grass are you applying the Fusilade to?
WIth this product you need more than the label - their website gives a lot of other uses and combinations. Here is the article for St Aug www.greencastonline.com/techarticle.aspx?gcaid=225037
@@Thelawncarenut Thanks you for the reply! I am more convinced than ever to try this combo on my lawan.
Is it too late to do this now. I feel like Bermuda grass began to get out of control in my backyard. The st Augustine is still there , but it is a whole lot of Bermuda everywhere and I don’t like it.
now is an excellent time to get on it
You don't need to add Halo anymore for nutsedge, recognition is labeled for it. This stuff is a silver bullet for st augustine grass.
Oof, gotta read the labels Al!
it's perfectly fine to spike in a separate chemistry to be sure and knock out the sedges.
$250 for 2oz?!?!
Big Pharma gotta make that money back 😆