Unboxing Hermes: Click H Bracelet & Sandals + Lawsuit Overview & Thoughts
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- Whether you're a fashion enthusiast, legal buff, or simply curious about the latest developments in the world of luxury brands, this video has something for everyone. Join me on this journey through the world of Hermes - from courtroom drama to couture fashion - and let's explore the intersection of law and luxury together.
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Unpopular opinion here: I find Hermes bags unattractive. There, I said it.
😂😂
WAY over Hyped! Definitley Not worth the Hyper Inflated Price!!
Yes me too!!! 😂
I don’t get the allure of their very popular sandal. Every single shoe manufacturer seems to have a knock off and I think they’re truly unattractive. And..I was just in Istanbul where knock off purses are for sale on every single corner in every price range and of various quality levels. Embarrassed to admit I almost bought the “master” knock off Kelly bag for $1200. Went back to my hotel and even did a deep dive on how to spot dupes down to the printed logo, hardware, and knobs on the bottom. Didn’t buy it.
Ya they bore me . Idc what the name on the inside is , it has to be fun to me to lug around
No way, in any situation, would I beg a company to allow me to spend my money with them
I can’t understand why people would want anything from a brand who clearly do not want them as a customer. It’s like trying desperately to be friends with someone who doesn’t want to know because you embarrass them or something. Yet people are desperate to be seen to “fit in” or “to achieved it”. It just screams the ultimate in materialism and insecurity to me and these type of brands are having the last laugh.
Exactly. It's also about ethics and code of conduct by Hermès, which speaks in volumes. People want their bags because of the drama surrounding it, which is ridiculous. @PashaAnn8888
Agreed
nope
Not to mention their horrific crocodile farms……
You nailed it! I won’t even buy anything that would be considered a dupe because I won’t participate in the nonsense.
Personally, I don’t care about this specific issue, and I think there is a legal line being crossed which is what the suit is about, not someone just crying “unfair”. Outside of the legal issue, there is another perspective….you are blessed with the personality to reach out and form relationships easily, so you think that is a price you are willing to pay - actually it isn’t a price, but how you are. Some of us are not as socially outgoing and don’t form relationships during business transactions. We can be cordial/courteous, but requiring you to develop a relationship to get something feels a little icky. As women, who historically always had to smile, and be sweet to get what we need from our fathers, our bosses, our husbands (which has/is changing)- it doesn’t feel right that there is a “good relationship” requirement to completing a business transaction.
Interesting perspective
In another video I recall you ranting about not having the chance to form a relationship with Hermes sales people...I personally think they are full of themselves and the exclusivity is off putting. I guess it's a double edged sword bc the exclusivity is what makes it valuable and have resale value, but at the end of the day it's just a bag to put things in and is not important in relation to the more meaningful things in life. I have many luxurious items, and it amazes me how I just gravitate toward my favorite few and the rest is just an obscene waste of money that would be better put to use in other ways.
I think the issue is--they are openly discriminating against people they deem unworthy of owning their product....I personally would not support a brand that treats their customers poorly, anyone should be able to walk into a store and be made welcome.....I think it is appalling to make people so uncomfortable they just leave. so perhaps unfair is the wrong word, I have wanted items and found out it was sold out, I didn't think it was unfair, I just was too slow, no problem, lesson learned, but to be interested in buying something and sales clerks refuse to look at you, behave with obvious distaste toward you is just awful behavior. this does not creat more desire, at least not for me, I will gladly spend my money else where, I own a million dollar home on the ocean that is paid for, drive a sports car, and I try to be courteous to everyone I encounter.
This 💯!!! The open discrimination is pretty obvious. It’s a sad sad world.
Exactly! no need to be rude to the customer.
This is soooo true!!!!
No, it's more like they are reserving the bags for their priority clientele who spend a lot, their best customers. The bags are for the rich who spend a lot anyway and $50,000 to them is like $2,000 to someone else. It is fair. It's a luxury item. They have plenty of rich customers and only so many bags.
@@lisapolanski9379 I will have to respectfully disagree here, the reason select people have bought a lot from them, is because they have allowed them to buy, while others are not waited on, told it is not in stock, and so on. in order to create an "exclusive" environment, you must exclude select individuals. this is just a very negative environment, guaranteed to hurt feelings, and make some feel they don't belong/or not good enough. why would anyone want that?
Sure, I'll throw my 2 cents in. I have my fair share of luxury and status items. I like to shop. I like pretty things. However, I am extremely shy. I would not be able to play the Hermes game even if I wanted to. And thankfully I don't want to. I am not going to put myself in the position of being intimidated by salespeople in a store. When I shop I'm usually ready to buy. If something is not in stock, they will order it for me. Easy and pleasant.
Same, I’m shy. I just want to buy something and not worry about being embarrassed because I’m shy.
I hear you! im sure not playing their game for a dang purse ,if somebody else wants to that's fine. Go crazy.
Agreed. You walk into LV, they sell you a bag. Didnt have to kiss up to anyone. We had the money and paid. I ordered my YSL bag from Nordstrom. I paid, they sent it. No relationship needed!
Lisa, are the shoes a half size too small? Maybe?
I’m glad you made this video. And I guess I’m just a weirdo lol . I don’t care about designer or name brand anything. I know I can find a cute bag on Amazon , structured or floppy whatever I want. I enjoy looking through the different bags and picking one out. I’m the same way with clothing and shoes. I feel good when I get a good buy. I’m just not interested in spending thousands of dollars on a bag or shoes or anything really. It just isn’t a thing for me. I’m not against other people who prefer name brands and designer items. It’s all in what we want & what makes us all happy as individuals.❤ I personally would not consider it unfair if a popular item was not available. I would move on & find something else. This is just me 🤷♀️
I agree we should all do what makes us happy. 🥰 Thank you for your comment, and for watching! ❤ Lisa
Frankly I don’t understand the draw to Hermes Birken bags, they are so unattractive in my opinion. I think spending that kind of money on a handbag is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion, there are so much more meaningful things in life to spend your money on if you have money to burn. That’s my opinion. Parading expensive accessories doesn’t buy class. But that’s my opinion and I respect everyone else’s opinion.
I do not care about that lawsuit.- However,- I am kind of surpriced that people still want to buy Hermes bags. Everybody has one, (or ten). I love that Hermes is a family-owned business, that the bags are handmade and so on.- But they have become what I call a uniform. There are so many pretty bags out there to buy ( and for far less money too ) .
Hermes practices bad behaviour and their clients enable them.
For me, there is no product or service worth purchasing whose company practices I don't believe in. I just wouldn't buy from them anymore. Money does talk.
Same here
The reason I won’t purchase Chanel. Can’t support a person/company that was once a Nazi supporter. I don’t care how far back in history it is.
You seriously research your products before handing over your money? Don’t go to church then.
It’s not about not playing the game or whining. With all due respect, research the lawsuit. Hermes is breaking the law. Period. People will overlook it in the name of fashion but that doesn’t make it right. It makes it pathetic.
Lisa, your sandals look too small. They are precious!
Thank you! 🥰 Lisa
The flip flops are really nice but they seem a bit small on you.
Thank you! 😘 Lisa
If I could I would not waste my money at Hermes at all
Life isn’t fair for sure. I totally agree with that. But I’m not really into discriminatory sales practices. I’m not into games and I’ll take my hard earned money elsewhere.
People buying status symbols to show off so people will think they're special.
I don’t care about Hermes. Not a fan. So I don’t care. ❤
I think it’s all ridiculous and way overpriced for a name that’s stamped on it. Just my opinion
I think the point some people are missing here is that it has nothing to do at all really about building a relationship with an employee. The issue is a company has for sale the merchandise a person wants and can afford but that person is instead, as part of a business plan to drive up sales and brand image, tricked/forced/manipulated into buying a whole bunch of other crap first as a prerequisite to ever someday maybe possibly if they are lucky and special enough to be chosen to get eventually the thing they could have/should have been sold in the first place because it was in fact always available. It's basic fraud. A perpetual scam being hidden behind an elitist facade. Not really all that different than saying you might be able to have a million dollars but in order to get your million dollars you must first wire me varying amounts of lots and lots of money over the next 10 years and then maybe if I like you just maybe eventually there might be a million dollars to give you, but even then you're going to have to wire me three million to get it. Not exactly the same but you get the idea. A scam is a scam is a scam and that's without even addressing the market manipulation to fraudulently drive the prices up.
yes, exactly. Hermes has been operating outside of laws for decades, its about time someone has decided to bring it out into the open. Hopefully more people will join the class action law suit as there is always strength in numbers. This is of course just my 37 cents...I threw in a few extra pennies to cover inflation 😭
I agree with this completely! I think people miss the point. Having to wait till a watch is available in order to buy it, is not the same.
You are spot on!
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This whole thing shows that luxury fashion has jumped the shark. If Hermes wants to screen who is buying let them. I have several Hermes scarves and belts all purchased in France at a boutique from snooty sales staff, and I do love them, but this whole discussion has me wondering if I am now going to be branded a fool for owning this brand and looked upon as trying too hard to be in some kind of exclusive club instead of buying it because it's beautiful and the workmanship is exquisite. Hermes has literally lost the thread.
good point
My issue is that it appears that the acquisition of the bag is conditional upon the unspoken/undocumented/quid pro quo assumption that you must spend $20,000 before qualifying for a $20,000 handbag. If the company stated "In order to qualify for a Birkin Bag, you must spend X amount of money." There. It's documented. How do we know that the sales associate isn't just taking you for the commission leading you to believe that you'll "move up the list" faster. It's about unlawful practice. Thanks for your videos!
I agree that life is not fair. And sometimes things we think we want, are not meant for us and in many instances the absence of that thing is a blessing. However, based on the experience you shared in your previous video, if I had money to burn, i wouldnt consider a Hermès purchase. There is absolutely no reason to ignore/not acknowledge someone who is patronizing your establishment.
I agree! Thank you for watching!! 😊😘 Lisa
It’s not about being “unfair”. There is an actual law at the center of this discussion. It will be someone’s job to interpret the law and to determine if Hermes is liable.
Agreed. This case is not complex really. It is a very well known, never been kept secret fact that if you would like the opportunity to ever be offered a "quota bag" which varies from sales associate (SA) to SA but always includes the Birkin and Kelly in all their various sizes, you will HAVE to spend a considerable sum of money on other items the brand has to offer. This sum of money changes once again from SA to SA, there seems to be no rhyme nor reason to how much one might be required to spend and in some cases the customer is told point blank, " you will need to spend $30,000 in home goods before being offered, or it could be in jewelry, or in ready to wear clothing. This variable changes drastically from SA to SA, from city to city, Country to Country, literally zero rhyme nor reason to this whole process. It has been like this for a very very long time and customers have just come to except this is the way this company does business, if you want a shot at buying one of these highly coveted bags you will play their game. Until customers began to get shafted over and over and over again. Customer were told by managers that if they spent $70,000 in another department, not bags they would be offered their dream bag, their top choice or pick between the Birkin and Kelly line. So Customers did just that, then waited and waited and waited and no offer came to buy either the Birkin or Kelly bag. It happens so often that finally a couple customer finally had enough, and good for them. This is absolutely not about Hermes operating "fairly" this is about Hermes operating within the laws in which they sign up to operate within when they set up show in any Country and within the State that the store operates in. Hermes stance is simply that this is not their policy but there are thousands of customers around the world who could line up for ten months long and tell a judge that this is in fact EXACTLY what they had to do in order to be offered a bag. This practice of trying to persuade people to spend money on something else so that you will offer them a different product and then to not come through on that promise is basically the crux of this law suit. I am very much a "life isn't fair" kinda person and hey if a company wants to keep the demand SUPER high by having such an extremely tight grip on their supply chain, that is 100% their prerogative to do so, but what they should not be allowed to continue to get away with is lying to customers getting customers to spend millions (collectively) just so that they might get an opportunity to be offered a Birkin or Kelly. I suspect these women who are bringing the lawsuit likely have recordings of being told by an SA or even a manager that they have to spend a certain amount in order to get offered a bag. On CA where this lawsuit is filed it is legal to record someone without their permission. The first two plaintiffs are asking for others to step up and join the class action suit and I suspect that others will who are fed up with having the carrot dangled in front of them for so long have spent so much money on other things as asked by their SA only to still have no offer to purchase a Birkin or a Kelly. This case could completely change the way Hermes operates, as it should. Its absolutely their prerogative to limit the supply of their merchandise and they can choose to sell to whom ever they please but the practice of SA's and Managers telling customers how much they have to spend and on which items in order to be offered a bag, absolutely should come to an end.
Satan is the author of confusion.
@@makeuplover6852 I wonder what kind of commission these sales associates are bringing in? It sounds like a real problem if that’s where it leads, I mean what if the house of Hermes says we don’t require a determined amount to be spent on items before the allowance of a bag is considered. I wonder what will happen? I’m sure they will have to deal with it and take the hit if anything comes of it. I wouldn’t know I’m the salt of the earth Nordstrom girl. 😂
@@makeuplover6852 do these sales associates make a commission off every sale? Not sure about in the US but in Canada the SAs make a commission. In high end stores they rely on their commissions for their paycheques because they work strictly on commission. I’ve heard of some SAs working at high end cosmetic counters and they can make close to $80,000 - $100,000 a year. And that’s just for cosmetics. So for an SA working at Hermes, if they work on commission no wonder they keep stringing these customers along and keep telling them they have to spend more money. It’s just putting money in their own pockets.
Pamela was preparing to shill for her skincare line, she didn't do it for nothing.
Absolutely.
Your story about buying the Rolex doesn't really compare with buying something you truly want from Hermes. You didn't have to buy a whole bunch of other items from Rolex in order to get the watch that you really wanted. I think it's important to point this out.
I think the problem is that it allows them to discriminate against certain people without being accountable for it. Its not just about how much money the person has. That is not acceptable and they should be called out for it.
When people say "that's unfair!", I think about an old story. A farming family who had no material wealth had a son who was working with them to harvest crops. He broke his leg and was not able to help. Everyone lamented this horrible fate. Couple weeks later an army came by looking for young people to take to war. Because the son had a broken leg he was not able to go to war and the family rejoiced And were grateful for the son's broken leg. I'm sure when you look back on it Lisa, you are glad that first marriage ended so you could have the marriage you have now. This is what I think about when something disappointing happens. I don't know what's coming around the corner, but I know I will always be taken care of the way I always have.
I love this perspective! And I think it’s spot on. 👏 ❤
This is such a great perspective to have, I'll have to tell Brooke this story! Thank you. ❤ Lisa
All the over the top prestige products remind of the Dr Seus book "The Star Bellied Sneeches" Brand logos are basic psychology and human nature. Create an atmosphere of exclusivity and that creates desire. Hermes is the ultimate star on and star off machine. I will never support brands that makes everyday people feel unimportant or wait in line for entry into a store. I have no judgment for anyone who does, we all choose to spend our money in different ways, and there is no one "right" way to spend money. We all spend; in what another may judge as frivolous or unnecessary. Do I need another foundation, no, do I want one yes Lisa I always enjoy your opinion and subscribers as well😀
I have a little bitter taste w/Hermes. We travel everywhere and have spent gobs of money, time, etc. in Hermes. We have bought bags, belts, scarves, bracelets… you name it. We have asked for a Birkin each and every time and “none in stock” but was never told how to achieve one. What I have realized is that you have to use the same “sales associate” and build a rapport with them and buy through them solely… as to create a rapport and relationship with them to be granted… a Birkin. Well, that does not sit well with us as we should be considered “tenured” customers…. But we buy in FL, we buy in France, we buy all over the world and still we are treated as if we have just come in as a first time customer. It has turned me off to trying to get one through the store. If my time, effort and money at this point does nothing- second hand is just fine w/me.
love your bracelet!!! the flip flops looks small on you. Love everything you said about being “fair” ❤
Do you think it is OK to be treated like crap? I form relationships with people who treat me decently/humanely. You deserve better!
I understand wanting an item because it's classic and even expensive and unattainable (status symbol). But the outright snobbery and elitism when it comes to luxury shopping, Hermes in particular, is so gross to me.
Pffff
I would never spend that kind a money on a bag watch or shoes it's just not me. However in my opinion if people have that kind a money and want to buy this bag or bags they should be able to and not to jump through hoops that this company is putting up
I understend maybe a waiting list but you should be able to get it . Some people are on the waiting list spend a lot of money there and yet they don't have a guarantee they will get the bag. I don't think this is ok and this is not a good buissnes model. I hope something will change with this lawsuit for those people who have interest in it. Me I could care less. I was never jealous of people having expensive things I need to like it and have a need for it and not wanting it becaouse of jealousy or some imaginary status that people pushing it and they are horrible people and stealing money lying and cheating but hey they have birkin and status. No thank you for me. I don't understand how people like this bag ? It's a nice bag but nothing special it's not maid of gold . They made dupes better looking then this bag not that I'm getting a dupe but I've seen it. 🙅
The prices make my eyes bug out! 😵
It took me a while to understand that you can’t just walk in and buy these bags. Ridiculous
Lisa now I’ll stop you there at 3:00min
Not “all” Virgos are into brand names. My sister in law Virgo & refuses to buy anything brand name if she can find a cheaper option.
I believe it has much more to do with the aspects in one’s birth chart. Venus placements in one’s chart, which house, aspects to moon/sun etc
That is correct! Often, people know only their sun sign. But really, that is only part of the story. To get the full picture, you should also know your rising sign (ascendant), which is the "face" we put on for others, and our moon sign, which signifies our emotional makeup, how we react, etc. Our sun sign attributes are what we are here to work on, move towards etc.
@@cynthiaventresca7697 yep!🫶🏻
I was just making that comment based on what my daughter has told me! I don't take it too seriously, it's just fun! I'm aware all of us Virgos are different. I love it! 😘 I am however also a Virgo moon! Thank you for watching 💞💞
@@LisaLisaD1 completely agree Lisa. It’s all in fun 🤩
I appreciate your positive outlook on this, but brands being elitist is icky to me... maybe i need to look at it differently 😂
There is definitely a wide variety of opinions on this topic but obviously like you said I choose to stay positive as I do with most situations lol!
Thank you for watching!! ❤ Lisa
@LisaLisaD1 this is why I have remained watching you, you stay positive throughout!! X
I think the same way you do. I always form relationships with the sales folks at any store I frequent. And life isn't fair. I went through a horrible divorce in my late 50's and lost my retirement and my beautiful retirement home in Georgia. It was sad and I thought it was unfair in the beginning. But then, I was able to move to a beautiful rural area in Oregon and I met the man of my dreams and we were married....and, and, and. I am so thankful I ended up here. We are much happier knowing that we don't deserve anything - but we are blessed to have what we have. Thank you for sharing.
So inspiring! I'm SO happy everything worked out for you how it did, and I hope the lord continues blessing you! ❤❤❤ Lisa
I would be more concerned about how the person talked to me. Were they snotty or look down on people type or did they just nicely explain the situation.
Some things really are unfair like the fact that so many people are suffering in the richest country in the world. It would be super easy to resolve if policy makers just wanted to. And it would be better for everyone in the country. The 1% shouldn’t let the 99% needlessly suffer. However smaller things don’t matter like bags- they can be unfair I don’t care haha
I didn’t even know about the lawsuit 😬 lolzzz 😂 You and I are very much alike I’m also a Virgo Sept. 12, 1966 I love fashion, I love watches, but what I love and adore and spend my extra on, is my Horse. ❤
Love it! 😘 I know your horse is happy! 🐎Thank you for watching ❤💋 Lisa
It’s life and you move along, does it feel good no then you get a choice to either spend or not. It’s all the all illusion of power and being different. The ego is running rampant so things like this is going to happen more.
I don’t care for the bags so I would never spend my money on them. I love brands with more of an edge like Fendi and Gucci. I do think Hermes scarves are beautiful, though.
Is that Bubba in the background ? I would like his opinion please lol
🙃, lisa 'gris' is pronounced 'greee' i should know i took 3 years high school French
Thank you for telling me! I took German lol, I wouldn't know! Thanks for watching 😘 Lisa
I love the “no one’s opinion is wrong, it’s just not yours.”
Everyone needs to remember that for everything in this day and age! 😂
Not true though really is it. Lots of things are wrong and an opinion stating so is to call it out. Like stealing for example. Anyone who has opinion it’s ok to steal is wrong.
@@debj9680 yes, that’s true! I wasn’t being too literal, it’s just a good saying to remember!
I like coach, Michael Kors, Calvin Klein, Kate Spade, Dooney And Burke .I cannot see spending that kind of money on a handbag as The H bag. but that’s just me , but if someone wants it, that is ok with me. I also know what I like, but ( I have people who can afford it) I don’t need stuff to fit it.
Lisa I love watches, got my smart watch and now I need lots of watch bands to make it look different, I enjoy that , some people think I am nuts, but I always say what floats your boat.
I love the sound of your voice. 😍 I don't care about Hermes 😂
You had mentioned that you like attention when you are in a store. How would you feel if you were in a store and the SA did not acknowledge you? I stayed at Encore in Las Vegas with my niece and we were at the pool and wanted drinks. The waitress went right past us to the people sitting next to us a women and gentlemen and took their order when I was sitting there and was looking right at her for service. She was profiling people who she thought had alot of money. It’s funny because I was talking to the woman who was from England and she noticed what happened and said in England they don’t tip. When the waitress came back with their drinks the waitress still ignored us. The lady from England said to the waitress that we were waiting to order. She took our order and was not friendly. When I paid I wanted to see what would happen if I gave her a generous tip which she didn’t deserve,,,,,, but after that her attitude changed and she kept coming back all nicey nice. I know this isn’t about Hermes but it’s kind of the same thing where they profile who they want to have as their customers. So I guess at Encore this waitress has the same mentality. I hate when people judge people by appearance. Just because I didn’t look the part doesn’t mean that I didn’t have a lot of money to spend and I wanted a drink just like everyone else. I took my business to The Four Seasons for all my future stays and I’ve never looked back at Encore.
Feel like the designer brands will soon be like my closet of real fur coats, a thing of the past.
This is just like the Pretty Woman move. So sad people act like they’re 21:37 superior and actually they will never fit in your glass slippers.
I would donate to needy children or abused women rather than spend on an elitist bag 🙄
I think the issue is the inconsistencies in the information being provided by the sales associates. One SA says you need to spend $50k and another is offering bags soon after forming a relationship. I think this lawsuit may force Hermes to reign in some of the SAs. Love your videos! ❤
Gris is gree
I was reminded of the boutique scene in Pretty Woman “How much is this, Marie? It’s very expensive.” 😂 I don’t have an opinion on the lawsuit. They have pretty things and if you want it and can afford it, enjoy it. I think the exclusivity is just something they’ll cling to for as long as possible. Could they be nicer about it? Probably.
I agree! 😘 Thank you for watching 💞💞 Lisa
I don’t understand why you would even consider purchasing from them! Their products are not attractive & the cost is ridiculous. So many other designers out there . 🙄
Hey Lisa, I don’t know that it’s so much of being unfair. I think it’s more of the attitude when you go into one of the shops. I’m not familiar with the lawsuit so I can. I don’t have an opinion, but I do think that the higher end stores have a certain, I don’t want prejudice because it’s not fair to say that but to a certain population so that just not anyone can go in and browse look and ask questions that is not something that you do in a higher end store. That comes from personal experience and I am from New York, so I think more than anything it’s an attitude. I don’t know again. I don’t know what the lawsuit is all about or what brought it to be but I do. I do think that we really need to change the attitude in any store in any area. Building a relationship Takes two people usually but if you don’t get that ability to do that, then you leave the store unsatisfied or even if you’re if you’re young feeling like I’m not good enough. That is my opinion. Thank you for bringing it up. Thank you for discussing it like how you go about and you’re thinking, that is very positive.
The thing that always makes me giggle about luxury is if everyone can get the bag, shoes, car, etc. then no one is going to want them.😂 I admire beautiful things, no matter their value. ❤But I never think "that's not fair it costs so much". Mostly I love vintage and antique things but the same applies even with old items. People go crazy when something becomes collectible😊either wanting it or complaining it costs so much. lol
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Because people don't really want to listen to someone say their on a first-name basis with the guy at Burger King and then wonder why it's so hard to get a luxury item intended for the very, very rich. This is like listening to a high school girl living in a fantasy world, obsessed.
You lost me and you crack me up! Your adorable and often have some interesting information...but your point?
Just brilliant marketing and targeting insecure people...and not interested! They originally made great English Riding saddles.
I think we need to be careful about being complacent about we just not worry about things being unfair. Sometimes it can be a big deal that things are unfair. People can prejudice and discriminatory on all levels(race, age, sex, etc.). I even had a situation where I felt my daughter’s coach was being unfair and was favoring certain players. After a discussion with the school athletic director, we found out that we weren’t the only parents that felt that way. In the end something was done about it. I’m so glad we stood up for our daughter and said this is not fair! If we hadn’t done so we would have not known that we weren’t alone and change would not have happened. Also, many years back, Oprah was not allowed to shop at a certain high end store. I don’t remember if it was Hermes or not. That wasn’t fair and cause for alarm if they wouldn’t let someone as widely known as Oprah to shop at that particular store. Just my thoughts. Thank you. 😊
Great point!!!!!
Agreed :) this is not really about being fair, Hermes is actually operating outside the law, in my opinion and the opinion of many others and the people have brought the class action suit against Hermes. Hermes employees tell customers they have to spend a certain amount (lets say $30,000) on OTHER things in the store before they will be offered a Birkin or Kelly bag which are the two bags Hermes keeps VERY tight control over how many they sell in essence they keep the demand for these bags extremely high by keeping the supply chain extremely tightly controlled. What prompted the law suits is this happens all the time but also what happens is then there is no fulfillment on that promise of offering these bags to the consumer.
In one case I read about a woman was told my a Hermes Manager that she had to spend $70,000 in a special event they were hosting, if she did she would be offered a bag, she did as she was asked...she was never offered the bag. It then became this game of continuing to move the goal posts on the customer and it was, oh you just have to spend another $25k in homegoods, and so on.
This practice has gone on for a few decades, customers now are fed up, and they all also carry with them these handy little devices that can record ALL of these conversations. SO...I suspect that more people are going to start to come out of the shadows and join this class action suit filed in California which is going to open the floodgates for other people to file the same suits in other States. This has the potential to seriously tarnish Hermes reputation and cost them a great deal of money. Of course this is just my 37 cents on the topic...I threw in a few extra cents to cover inflation
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@@makeuplover6852 thank you for the explanation of the lawsuit. Very clear and concise.
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Yes to revisiting the Pammy no makeup video! I feel a bit differently about it now than I did when she first stopped wearing makeup.
Will do 😘 Lisa
This is all way out of my world. No clue about any lawsuit. But interesting to watch. I’m pretty clueless about designer anything.
I'm glad it was an interesting watch anyway! Thank you for being here! 🥰 Lisa
Law suites are meaningless today. Just another way for someone to whine because they didn't get what they wanted. ❤ the bracelet!
Just another perspective and food for thought:
This is a class action suit against a billion dollar corporation who has been operating outside the laws for years, imo. Why wouldn't we as a law abiding society want these illegal practices to be brought to the light and for the company that is profiting from breaking the law to be called on it?
In doing so, forcing these allegedly illegal practices to come to a halt, resulting in fines and compensation to all those whom were lied too by Hermes employees. Of course It is up to the courts to determine if Hermes was operating outside the law, I can tell you that likely a hundred thousand people could testify that this is in fact how Hermes does operate around the world, their employees tell their customers how much they must spend and often in what category of items before they will be offered a quota bag, which are the Birkins and Kelly's and some stores will also include a few other styles as well like the Picotin.
Thousands of customers have been lied to and told they have to spend upwards of $70,000 in order to be offered a bag, the customers do as they are asked only to never be offered a bag. I feel this type of blatant abuse of power over consumers is never ok and we should never condone it. And I say this as someone who more than likely will most assuredly never be offered a bag from Hermes :) Lastly...these are just my 37 cents on the whole lawsuit - I threw in a few extra pennies there to cover inflation
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I’m sorry, watching your beautiful kitty behind you just took all my attention! So beautiful 😻
Makes me sad you were treated so poorly so many times and you’re still spending money with them. There are many other brands who would love you to be their customer and would treat you with kindness and respect. Lisa you’re too kind to deal with them, go somewhere where they’ll love you up! ❤
I am aware of Hermes, the Berkin bag, completely oblivious to any lawsuits until I just watched this video.
Now that you have the Birkin go back to Hermes and get accessories for it, ask for a leather appointment. You will get offered a bag now!!! Welcome to the club
I learned that the French want the aura of exclusivity. While the American way is a lot more about Utilitarianism (inclusion). Hence why the French “act” rude and Americans “act” friendly/customer service-customer is always right. It’s cultural. So what do we know about culture???? That culture is a cult. There are followers and non followers. If you want to be a part of the group you need to “act” the part. Ridiculous??? Yes. Yes it is. Some people need a security blanket and others don’t. The truth is that the universe is vast and there’s room for every one to create the life they seem fit.
If your life's mission is to get a designer handbag, you need to take a step back and reassess, IMO. There's so much more to life than things.
I had a friend who was a long-time sales associate at Prada in Beverly Hills. She had a list of very rich customers from the richest families or married to the richest men who she sold the latest Prada items too. Her priority was to service her clientele because they wanted those items and they had priority. Those people are in social circles where they need the latest luxury items and have a luxurious social life to go with it, a reason to wear these things and keep up with their peer group. Why would a sales associate sell the item to someone who doesn't travel in those circles and have the social life that the very rich have? Their very rich clientele get these items.
who cares, any happier than most!
Hi Lisa - what size is your Rolex? That’s the look I’m going for, but I don’t what size it is.
I would say I’m unbothered by the whole Hermes thing. Personally, I wouldn’t buy anything there because of their practices, but I don’t care if that’s how others choose to spend their $$. I don’t buy any of the dupes or anything I’m not mad about it - making connections is part of life. That’s why a lot of business occurs on the golf course. Live and let live imo but ultimately we get to decide where to spend our $ and if you think something is unfair - don’t give that business your attention and hard earned $.
You are so endearing, I just love ya! Gris(rhymes with he and the s is silent. It is French for Gray). I like your open and simplistic, no drama point of view. It is my understanding you have to have a purchase history. The lawsuit reminds of the scene in Pretty Woman where Julia Robert's is snubbed by the lady shopkeepers on Rodeo Drive and then she walks in with armloads of bags and tells these ladies "Big mistake, BIG", meanwhile these ladies work on comission. Her money is as good as anyone right? I am curious how you are considering a lawsuit "unfair" as opposed to the store perhaps being discriminatory as to who can shop there? It may be different if there are certain rules in the other countries. Also, do they have these buying restrictions or rules posted somewhere? There are no rules for who can own a luxury car I suppose. I need to look up the lawsuit. There are some people always looking to sue over things that seem outrageous like the hot coffee at McDonald's case.
Just another pespective and something to maybe consider:
The lawsuit does not really have anything to do with them being "fair", the center of the law suit is simply that Hermes employees tell their customers how much they have to spend on other stuff so that they can earn the right to be offered a quota bag which are Birkins and Kellys some stores also include a few other bags.
Many customers fulfill this "ask" of them only to then NOT be offered a bag and the goal posts just keep moving, then it will be "oh, we need you to just spend another $20,000 and you'll get offered a bag". Some customers have spent over 100k USD and still are not offered a bag. This is what the lawsuit centers around and they (the complainants) are arguing this breaks the anti trust laws as set out in California where this law suit is filed. IMO, Hermes has been allowed to operate out side of the laws for decades and its about time that they are forced to stop these horrible practices and figure out a better way to still limit these specific bags but yet operate ethically and not treat their customers with such incredible disrespect.
of course all of this is just my 37 cents on the topic ...I threw in a few extra pennies to cover inflation
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I love the bracelet. I do not have luxury bags. I do love soft or well made leather bags. Which would be a luxury to some who cannot spend $200 or $300 on a bag. I do think the shoes are small for you. Maybe you should try to go up a half size if possible.
Hi Lisa! Glad you are back and had fun on your trip. I watched this whilst I got ready this morning but wanted to chew over my thoughts on it before putting pen to paper, so to speak, and I should also add that I am not super knowledgeable of the lawsuit. That said, personally, I do not support brands that promote exclusivity like this. I understand luxury (have my fair share) but I think the issue is bigger than "fair," it promotes this elitist mentality which, in my opinion, furthers the "us and them" mentality/division in our society. Additionally, I do not see the value in the taking part in that elitist culture. I understand the thrill of the chase or finally being included but those feelings are always short lived. I do not want to be work so hard to get a company to let me spend tens of thousands of dollars on a bag. Either you want my money/further business or you do not, but I am not going to beg you to let me drop 10+k on a purse, for Christ's sake :) So, at the end of the day, do what makes you happy! I am simply adding in my vantage point. I appreciate that you welcome the discussion. I agree it is important to form relationships with sales associates and life is not fair...I just think this is a separate issue.
In a time where there is so much division, we now have it in our consumer buying, too?! The Haves and the Have Nots. I don’t have a strong opinion either way; for those who feel good, included, part of a group, or status to strive to get the bags-great. For those who wish to save their fortune and buy something else? Great for them, too. But, I will say, two things: 1. The “people at the top”(founders, owners, CEO’s, ET.) are off the charts wealthy because of your desire to make them super rich. Simply by supporting the brand. 2. It is a brand that clearly divides socioeconomic status. At the end of the day, the lawsuit will shake things up and that’s a good thing.
And when I say, “you”, I mean it in a general way, no one in particular. Meaning, the people at the top live super wealthy due to the people who buy their products.
You were born to wear that bracelet! Now go ROAR in it! 😄❤️
Hope you see my comment I have commented on a couple of videos in the past and wasn’t sure if you see all the comments, I LIKE your channel, I want to honest but as a minority (I’m black BtW🥰) I wanted you to look at it from my point of view , when you say life is unfair Think about why that is & who makes the rules , example if we both walk into Hermes that SA most likely will offer you something, So you have a privileges just from the color of your skin yes it’s not your fault, But My ? is that just life being unfair, No so when you say that life is unfair in this case I will have to respectfully disagree,, I do agree with you if you don’t want to play the game don’t , clearly SOME luxury brands have tried to price out the ones they clearly they don’t want the have not to buy their brand, it’s a form of classism hope this comment doesn’t get deleted I know sometimes ppl are posting things to be mean this my honest take on this topic but I’m sure you can look at how many videos I watch of yours, mostly all of them
Funny story. A close friend of mine and her daughter were in Paris about 3 years ago. They were in a looooooong line to go in the Hermes store, where her daughter just "knew" (hoped and prayed) she would get lucky. Suddenly, they pulled her out of line, and she was able to buy a Birken on the spot! It was nuts!!! They couldn't believe it. No explanation was given. CRAZY! You just never know. The lawsuit? I have no feeling one way or the other. Love your channel...I've watched you for YEARS and YEARS! You're the sweetest, most authentic Southern Belle I've ever seen... and I'm southern, so I know! LOL I don't know if your state considers themselves the south, but your accent is fabulous!
I have never heard of Hermes until you bought one. I don't understand spending that much on a bag but appreciate you that can.
Hi Lisa question : what size is ur Rolex that’s the exact fit/size I’m looking for. Thanks!!❤
Luxury handbags are not my thing, but I’m also not one to “yuck someone else’s yum.” If they really want one and are willing and able to afford it, then more power to them! I hope they soo thrilled with their purchase! ❤
I can’t afford one of those purses. I always say if I don’t have the amount of money to carry in a purse for the amount of money I paid for the purse then I don’t need the purse. But I wouldn’t sue Hermes for not selling me a purse. They obviously have plenty of money to be choosey to whom they sell to and that is fine. They can keep those purses and whatever else they sell. I laugh because I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference in that purse or a Walmart purse.
Do you still keep in contact with your old SA at Saks? I think his name was Zafu?? I remember he did a whole thing for Brooke’s birthday and I thought that was so sweet!!
Have you tried the Jimmy Choo flip flops? They are slightly platform & oh so comfy!
I love your attitude about EVERYTHING! I'm not a name brand gal but can appreciate it. I do think that the idea of store personnel (customer service) not engaging or ignoring its clientele seems elitist and wouldn't make for a very engaging shopping experience. Especially if you have questions or like the human interaction. Either way I'd go in one just to see all the pretty things!
Thank you!! I appreciate you watching. 🥰❤ Lisa
💕 love kitty in the background keeping her eye on you
Sassy Girl had a good time with us! 💗🐱
Squeeze it together and turn the H. It's gorgeous.
Love u Lisa 💓...it's nice to have nice things as long as they don't have u"....I grew up in aa very nice community always worked hard & would save my monies to buy 1 nice thing as a reward for my earnestness after I pay my. Bills however its a slippery sloap...seen 1st hand my own mom depression Era baby ...hoarding things....not a good feeling for me to watch her consume....so I want to enjoy my wardrobe and my family 1st....not that u do not but anyways I am happy watching u share ur joys...God bless & keep u
Great video. I am not a fan of the Hermes’ bags, however I did purchase a pair of sandals from them. Just happened to walk into the store one day, it was very busy but I was greeted and was told it would be a wait I said that’s fine, the SA assignment to me was very polite and asked me what I was looking for. He even asked me if I was interested in seeing a few bags. I sad no, they did not appeal me. Nevertheless he gave me his card, after I made my purchase. It was a very nice experience.
I like the Hermes bracelet. Very pretty.
I would love another video on the no-makeup look!
this lawsuit will make it harder for people to get a bag
I agree life does seem unfair in certain moments mostly bc we're in a situation and cannot see ahead and God has an aerial view and can see more than what meets the eye.
Interesting topic Lisa 🙂 It’s so odd when companies are singled out this way…all of them do this to some extent. Other luxury brands burn or trash items seasonally to not flood the market. It’s well known this is done with diamonds. The list goes on and on and I don’t know a company that doesn’t control their supply and demand to the best of their ability.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the lawsuit. Honestly, I don’t care if someone has a nicer (insert item) than I do. I definitely like to look at beautiful things, but I’m not typically a jealous person. (Unless you’re a completely awful person, then I’m side eyeing you😂)