Apple vs. the FBI: Inside the Battle Snowden Calls "The Most Important Tech Case in a Decade"

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
  • democracynow.org - A major debate over privacy and online encryption has erupted after the computer giant Apple announced it will resist a court order to help the FBI break into an iPhone recovered from one of the San Bernardino shooters. Citing an 18th century law, federal prosecutors requested a court order to compel Apple to assist the investigation in unlocking the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook. In December, Farook and his wife killed 14 and injured 22 others in San Bernardino. On Tuesday night, Apple CEO Tim Cook published an open letter to customers announcing his company’s decision to fight the court order. "Up to this point, we have done everything that is both within our power and within the law to help them," Cook said. "But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone." We speak to Alex Abdo, staff attorney at the National Security Project at the American Civil Liberties Union.
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Комментарии • 223

  • @jasontd1984
    @jasontd1984 8 лет назад +11

    As a guy that hates apple I stand behind them on their choice.

  • @Phildog1
    @Phildog1 8 лет назад +4

    not a single word about Snowden in this entire piece.

  • @शिवप्रमति
    @शिवप्रमति 8 лет назад +10

    Great job APPLE.

  • @franciscotirado1294
    @franciscotirado1294 8 лет назад +7

    this is why i like apple....... good job apple don't unlock shit

  • @stephenmcewanFREEDOM
    @stephenmcewanFREEDOM 8 лет назад +7

    next they will ask for a priest report on our confesions

    • @MrAtown3057
      @MrAtown3057 2 года назад

      I killed my mother's son.

  • @ElliotBrownJingles
    @ElliotBrownJingles 8 лет назад +1

    FBI wanting a back door on our phones reminds me of the Led Zeppelin line: "I wanna be your back-door man". Go figure.

  • @StephenWebb1980
    @StephenWebb1980 8 лет назад +4

    I was on Apple's side until I found out that Tim Cook was willing to do what the FBI wanted if the matter was SEALED, making the entire thing invisible to the public...when the FBI went public with the matter, Tim had to back peddle and is now taking the opposite position to make it look like Apple is really concerned about privacy. I will never, ever purchase, or use an Apple device again.

    • @StephenWebb1980
      @StephenWebb1980 8 лет назад +2

      +Stephen Webb Here is a reference: www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-became-a-bulwark-for-digital-privacy.html?_r=0
      about 20 or so paragraphs down is this very very important paragraph:
      "Apple had asked the F.B.I. to issue its application for the tool under seal. But the government made it public, prompting Mr. Cook to go into bunker mode to draft a response, according to people privy to the discussions, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The result was the letter that Mr. Cook signed on Tuesday, where he argued that it set a “dangerous precedent” for a company to be forced to build tools for the government that weaken security."
      The only reason a company would ask for this, is if they intend to comply with an order but don't want the general public to know. Tim Cook is a liar, and Apple will suffer for it. Everyone is touting Apple and Tim Cook as some sort of hero for the people and privacy, but make no mistake that the FBI has shown them to be otherwise.

  • @mdm3677
    @mdm3677 8 лет назад +3

    I don't like to see back doors on the apple. Thanks to Apple for refugees FBI.

  • @cracker_jacked_jlu
    @cracker_jacked_jlu 8 лет назад +1

    just a couple of notes to think about, 1 the data they want is on the Phone company's server not the phone, every text you send is saved on phone company servers and the Gov can ask to see them with out a warrant right now because they have access. 2 the NAS must already have a way to get in and if they don't they should ask the Chinese Gov cause we know they do....

  • @preciouswells5176
    @preciouswells5176 8 лет назад

    I total agree

  • @brendanstrauss1934
    @brendanstrauss1934 8 лет назад +1

    Nice Baden or Hayden gets it. That's a step forward

  • @RandallFlaggNY
    @RandallFlaggNY 8 лет назад +1

    I wonder if some people here have considered the exigencies of
    engineering. Not one of the engineers and scientists at Apple would much
    care to be forced to crack the phone. I doubt morale would be conducive
    to performing such highly creative, intellectually challenging work.
    Will an FBI agent need to stand next to a brilliant engineer, holding a
    gun to said engineer's head, and say "Be brilliant. Solve that problem."
    Crack this phone, or we'll shoot this dog?
    Has
    anyone considered the extremes Apple, and the relevant software
    engineers will go? What if the FBI shows up at the labs to find all the
    necessary employees have quit? What immediate effect would this have on
    Apple's stock price? Just imagine what would happen on the all the stock
    markets.
    What it the engineers and scientists are jailed for contempt of court? How would the markets react?
    I
    wonder how many have really been so granular in their thinking. Maybe
    the feds will get a cracked phone, years from now, when it is of little
    use.

  • @MeetBushe
    @MeetBushe 8 лет назад +12

    they lying, they want you to get too comfortable on your apple fones. Its probably an Apple trick for marketing the apple i-phones

    • @Theskybluelake
      @Theskybluelake 8 лет назад +1

      +MeetBushehh Phones not fones liberal LMAO

    • @MeetBushe
      @MeetBushe 8 лет назад

      thats short hand texting... :|

  • @fullmoonwhite1
    @fullmoonwhite1 8 лет назад +2

    According to study of our laws we have all committed a felony of some sort everyday of our lives we just don't know it..... YET.

  • @naybobdenod
    @naybobdenod 8 лет назад

    Great video and thanks :)

  • @TheRangeControl
    @TheRangeControl 8 лет назад +1

    This is one of Tim Cook's publicity stunts. He is merely making a fuss to make the brand seem more supportive of their customers.
    I want to read the request from the Department of Justice requesting a backdoor.

  • @LeeGresham
    @LeeGresham 8 лет назад

    An object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction

  • @bluepicis
    @bluepicis 8 лет назад

    No mater what we think, will no change the reality.

  • @Topofthelistvideos
    @Topofthelistvideos 8 лет назад

    I bet there ain't shit on that phone. If you knew you were going on a killing spree, wouldn't you delete all your browsing history,texts,calls,pics,etc?

  • @CH-pt1cd
    @CH-pt1cd 8 лет назад +1

    atleast they are not outright saying they will help the fbi. who knows what goes on behind doors at there meetings.

  • @thawngcunglians
    @thawngcunglians 8 лет назад +1

    FBI should asks Steve Jobs coz' he is in iCloud.

  • @bgfishing2948
    @bgfishing2948 8 лет назад

    The only question is Can they force someone to CREATE something that doesn't exist?
    Can they enforce a timetable on creating something that doesn't exist?

  • @thaarealdeal4349
    @thaarealdeal4349 8 лет назад +2

    Really.. ... How stupid do they think we are? FBI can't access the phone. # Com on Man

    • @AttestedFire66
      @AttestedFire66 8 лет назад

      They can't though... not easily atleast. You obviously know nothing about encryption.

  • @reverendbluejeans1748
    @reverendbluejeans1748 8 лет назад

    Should FBI have a back door? sure they should just ask apple for it.

  • @thesimulacre
    @thesimulacre 8 лет назад

    "every government in the world" is already knocking

  • @davidrivers872
    @davidrivers872 8 лет назад

    Take it to the MAC store help desk, they will have this sorted in minutes.

  • @diwatangkalikasan3085
    @diwatangkalikasan3085 8 лет назад

    BRING THAT UNIT TO THE PHILIPPINES, A FILIPINO IT CAN UNLOCK THAT..

  • @DavNicWil
    @DavNicWil 8 лет назад

    COME ON FOLKS !!!! IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU GOT IT, MONEY !!!

  • @tituslivius3339
    @tituslivius3339 8 лет назад

    All electronics can be hacked. Don't store sensitive shit on your phone.

  • @DeedeesJourney
    @DeedeesJourney Год назад

    I get its a slippery slope but like if theres ever reason for an exception, id think mass murder would do it...

  • @paultidwell8799
    @paultidwell8799 Год назад

    you cannot make the iphone less secure by building a backdoor without also taking the risk the governments backdoor will be discovered by malicious hackers as well.

  • @Zyworski
    @Zyworski 8 лет назад

    I wonder if they have considered coming in through an auto-updating app that has been granted permissions on the phone? Update the phone with a virus through an app. Perhaps keyboard entries via bluetooth do not go through the counter. perhaps they could tear the phone apart and splice in a parallel operating system.
    It would be a real bummer to spend tens of millions of dollars to crack the phone only to learn that it was empty.

  • @applepearhero
    @applepearhero 8 лет назад

    Well, what I think is that this is all fake and it is just to prove to us how safe our privacy is and stuff.

  • @clubalbert
    @clubalbert 8 лет назад

    It's not about privacy vs security, loss of privacy equals loss of security. Just look at the fax's Internet crime is skyrocketing, while at the same time the FBI grow in massive surveillance they decrease preventing crime.

  • @UXSpecialist
    @UXSpecialist 8 лет назад

    Whoever stands against apple on this one is wrong

  • @bleikrsound6127
    @bleikrsound6127 8 лет назад +2

    Now Apple wants the FBI Stasi to reveal how they cracked the islamic terrorist's phone.
    Go ahead Apple, kick the Beast.

  • @gunknown7044
    @gunknown7044 8 лет назад

    Ya know technically you can just backup the phone and decrypt the backup lol It backups your messages and all lol

  • @GeneralHiro
    @GeneralHiro 8 лет назад

    So if someone uses a Sandisk USB stick with encryption software on it and it is found in the possession a terrorist then is it up to sandisk to make a patch for its USB stick so the FBI can get the info?
    Or say I'm a Safe manufacturer. I make the best Safes in the world. Someone has locked critical evidence in one of my safes. It is now my responsibility to make the set of tools required to break into my safe?

  • @curtissanders5498
    @curtissanders5498 8 лет назад

    That 18th century law is called the fourth amendment.

  • @DavNicWil
    @DavNicWil 8 лет назад

    What Business does the "Free Country" government have looking into my phone? I paid for it, NOT them, it's MY info NOT theirs, and it's MY personal files and photos, NOT theirs,...!!! So I ask, why do THEY need MY info? (or yours?). Just like it's MY underwear, NOT theirs, it's MY socks, NOT theirs, it's MY person and affects, NOT theirs !!! I'm NOT giving MY freedom up for THEIR (so-called) "security" !!!! I'm quite secure myself, thanks but, NO THANKS !!!

  • @frostreaper6077
    @frostreaper6077 8 лет назад

    TO THE FBI! WHITE HAT TIP!Put 6100 and on the4th 0 hold it and it will unlock any iphone! or restart the IPHONE and unplug and plug in the usb end of the cable back and forth on the computer!

  • @JK-vp2ux
    @JK-vp2ux 8 лет назад +2

    Josh Ernest is lying. Either that or he is the single most naive person in the country.

  • @peterliljebladh
    @peterliljebladh 8 лет назад

    What's the problem with handing the very phone over to Apple to get the information they want?
    So if the NSA would ever feel the need to search a suspected persons home they apply for a one time permitt, not a f@€#*%& general access to invade each and every home in the physical world.

  • @richarddragon7617
    @richarddragon7617 8 лет назад

    apple shoud open the phone and help the FBI

  • @frostreaper6077
    @frostreaper6077 8 лет назад

    Put 6100 and on the4th 0 hold it and it will unlock any iphone! or restart the IPHONE and unplug and plug in the usb end of the cable back and forth on the computer!

  • @normaaliihminen722
    @normaaliihminen722 8 лет назад

    GO Apple #AppleFTW

  • @norden9999
    @norden9999 8 лет назад

    I think I should buy an apple products on future on and encrypted them. COOL!!!

  • @fredrico45
    @fredrico45 Год назад

    America is no different then china.

  • @rdkuless
    @rdkuless 8 лет назад

    With sympathy to those who lost lives. We have even more to loose at this point.
    A phone protected by a password (that protects personal information about the owner), How do self incrimination laws apply? I would also like to pose that no one can be forced to testify against a family member (so family members phones are off limits also). Passwords belong to individuals, i would think that the this personal information is solely your thoughts and knowledge. And therefore protected by self incrimination laws.

  • @ArtfulDodgerM
    @ArtfulDodgerM 8 лет назад

    Does this lady have a mechanical eye?

  • @khalifeh22
    @khalifeh22 8 лет назад

    they keep making fun of people by making these stupid fake beauty hopes while they are hiding a lot of frustrating facts

  • @Liam-vx4fg
    @Liam-vx4fg 8 лет назад

    Fourth amendment!!

  • @KelleyFHolly
    @KelleyFHolly 8 лет назад

    Edward Snowden for president !!!

  • @teamshockfire5108
    @teamshockfire5108 7 лет назад

    Great job apple!

  • @stephenmcewanFREEDOM
    @stephenmcewanFREEDOM 8 лет назад

    Apple will then become an agent of thr fbi not on my phone ty

  • @TOBYmcTERROR
    @TOBYmcTERROR 8 лет назад

    So many people in RUclips comment sections are so paranoid. It's like they're wearing tin foil hats.

    • @mapl3mage
      @mapl3mage 8 лет назад

      +Toby McMillan
      it certainly doesn't help that fbi is literally trying to make Apple compromise the digital security of all their customers (including future customers)

    • @TOBYmcTERROR
      @TOBYmcTERROR 8 лет назад

      I mean in terms of not trusting what Apple says, some people are calling this whole thing Apple propaganda to make people buy more Apple products so that the majority of the population has an Apple product and therefore the FBI can control most people.

  • @MottiShneor
    @MottiShneor 7 лет назад

    Bull shit.

    • @MottiShneor
      @MottiShneor 7 лет назад

      Ah, I was referring the FBI explanations. Not the whole thing - which is just plain boring. You could say it all in less than 10 seconds, and without 10 people interviewed, and reciting themselves to death.

  • @michaelmulvey1790
    @michaelmulvey1790 8 лет назад

    Go to hell Apple.

    • @michaelmulvey1790
      @michaelmulvey1790 8 лет назад

      TheWhat667
      What a stupid thing to say. You filthy coward.

  • @frostreaper6077
    @frostreaper6077 8 лет назад

    TO THE FBI! WHITE HAT TIP!Put 6100 and on the4th 0 hold it and it will unlock any iphone! or restart the IPHONE and unplug and plug in the usb end of the cable back and forth on the computer!