We Wear the Cheese | Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x22 "Restless" | The Normies Group Reaction!
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This sounds like a bad case of sleep paralysis in which case my sleep paralysis demon is a cardboard cutout of Suraj talking in a British accent. What's yours?
angel goes on youtube
🤣😂
Hey, you know whose analysis of this episode you would like to see- The Passion of Nerds. TPN has done a very thoroughly researched and intelligent analysis of a lot of Buffy episodes, but the one for restless is particularly brilliant.
However it does contain a lot of spoilers, owing to the fact that apart from some excellent character studies, this episode has some spectacular foreshadowing, which must obviously be mentioned during analysis. Still, you might like to see it for yourself anyway after you finish season 5- its very good.
Mine is tiktok manifested as a hobo. Wherever I go, there he is, stalking me with his suckage. He's always asking if I can spare some likes. C***
@@asthajindal5275 There's a non-spoilery version of Restless as well om TPN.
Giles actually gave a hint to who their pursuer was: "You never had a Watcher"
Joss commented that they tossed in the cheese guy because it is meaningless, there's always a part of your dream that is meaningless
Yess and I think Suraj’s fixation on it is exactly the point…. Like when we dream some weird AF thing and try to make it make sense, even though it just doesn’t 😂😂
Exactly it's meaningless
No!
it has to have some kind of meaning people dont just have shared dreams with out it having any meaning
Joss also said if the cheese man is what you focus on it means you got all of the other parts of the dreams
I think the bulk of Willow's dream is her worrying that everyone thinks the person she is now is just a front or costume, and that everyone really still sees her as the shy, insecure nerd from high school -- and on some level Willow worries that she really is just putting on an act now.
It definitely means that. When she’s stripped of her “costume” Willow is wearing the exact same outfit and hairstyle from the first episode of Buffy
Yes! Imposter syndrome
Joss said the cheese had no meaning, HOWEVER Willow did tell Riley earlier in the season that Buffy likes cheese.
6:57 "Should have brought Cordelia back, that would make things perfect." She was supposed to be in that scene! Both her and Angel had scenes for this episode (Angel was the First Slayer's "voice," not Tara) but had to be changed when they were too needed on the set of the Angel finale.
13:40 "How do they keep doing that?" It is super clever! The answer is that the sets are genuinely just next to each other, and they actually do a great job hiding that most days. Here, just acknowledging that yes, Giles' house leads to the college dorm seems so dreamlike and trippy.
I am actually really impressed with how much this group picked up on the first watch and loved how much they enjoyed it. Some reactors are just lost trying to figure out what is going on, but they sit back and enjoy the crazy ride that is this episode.
The Normies' "yes, and"-ing reaction style, where they build off each other's theories and jokes, is a great fit for episodes like this, and for full-on comedies. If it's very serious and plot-dense, then they can sometimes get so wrapped up in their own discussions that they miss crucial plot points, but when the episode lines up well with their reaction style then they're probably my favourite Buffy reactors.
@notoriouslybratty- I watched it last week on Patreon and I was saying the same thing. Most reactors don't quite like it so much,just think it's weird but I was suprised and loved how much they enjoyed it. Hey, the first time I watched I didn't care for it but that was because I watched the series out of order so I didn't really know the characters that well, but after watching in order, I really loved it. Joss really had the random dream-like scenarios down, and the cheeseman was the cherry on top.
Yes! I love how much they realized it was a realistic dream representation and could draw conclusions based on standard dream tropes. And noticing the cards for each person. I think it helps having 6 of them. Each of them picks up on different aspects. I had a feeling I was going to really appreciate their reaction, more than I appreciate other reactors (though I love them all)
For the most part yeah very impressive normies ,shout out to Rena way to go shutting down this cheese watcher nonsense,, really great reaction
buffy is a good show for them. its frustrating to watch them try to follow shows with a denser plot, but buffy doesnt require you to remember that much from previous seasons.
I’m so jealous that there are people that still get to experience Buffy for the first time
Until you get to the painful moments.
I love this episode, it also has one of the most interesting episode commentaries I’ve ever watched.
Xander keeps ending up back in his basement because it feels like a prison that he can’t escape from. No matter how hard he tries he always ends up back where he started, under the warden like figure of his abusive father.
After this next three seasons, the whole "you have no idea what's to come" is SO REAL.
12:06 "its because of what we did, i know that" omg i just realized that could also be in reference to season 6 ep 1&2, looking back on this episode now, there are so many tiny references!
In movies dream sequences are an excuse to showcase flashy, improbably special effects sequences, but in reality most dreams are like, "I'm late for class, and the classroom is inside this supply closet I've lost the key to." This episode nails what most dreams are like.
Yeah, most of my dreams are really nonlinear & this is one of the few dream sequences that plays to that quality of dreaming.
Exactly. To me it is the most accurate representation of a dream put on film.
I say Terminator 2 does both.
I like to think Tara was the dream guide/translator in Buffy’s sequence because Buffy sees her as a kind, calm, and intuitive person, and recognizes some power in all of that, even though she doesn’t know her very well (that might also be part of it though). But more accurately… I’m pretty sure Angel was supposed to have Tara’s role but Boreanaz couldn’t make it.
I love love love this episode. Thanks for another great reaction ❤❤❤
I think Angel or Faith were originally supposed to have the Tara role.
@@ejr87r It was definitely Boreanaz that was suppose to have that role.
@@koreygeren2677 That would have been cool, in the sunlight too.
@@ejr87r It was supposed to be Angel and Cordelia in this ep, Cordelia as the guide but Angel show filming schedules didn't line up with this ep.
I LOVE this episode one of the best of Buffyverse and TV period. So much foreshadowing for future seasons. Also Riley isn't in Xander or Giles dreams and how he's interpreted in Buffy and Willow's is telling.
I've been saying this for two decades now....this is not only the best Buffy episode but the best episode of a TV show EVER aired on TV. No other show comes even close in terms of complexity/cinematography or music.
@@xenomorphlover "The Body"
I don't think Spike is in Willow's or Buffy's dream.
@@jp3813 Buffy & Willow see Spike more as an annoyance, especially at this point in the series
@@ejr87r I'm sure Xander is annoyed by him as well.
This is hands down the best Buffy episode and one of the best episodes EVER shown on TV. The cinematography, complexity of characters/metaphors/foreshadowing and the music in this one are mind-blowing. No other show comes even close to this one!
Suraj, I like what you said about Buffy's "sandbox" getting bigger, symbolic of the larger things ahead for her and the things she will have to face. That was a really interesting point.
This episode is amazing. And a lot of stuff will make sense later on. Yes, that clock 7:30 is completely wrong. A lot of time has passed since we last heard about it.
Miles to go..
Soon it’ll be time for curds & whey.
This is my favorite episode of the series. The foreshadowing of the rest of the season is amazing especially on second watch. The transitioning from place to place without making any sense is so accurate to how locations change in dreams. It is very well done.
I have always loved when Buffy says “Wait! I have weapons” and then the bag is just full of face paint insinuating that she is indeed the weapon.
One of the best ways to understand this episode is watch Restless again after finishing Season 5 and Episode 22 of Season 3 with the Faith and Buffy shared dream. So much will be revealed. And finally, watch again after Season 6 ends and even more is explained. After doing this process I was impressed that the themes and story lines were completed 2-3 years ahead. Truly remarkable. Finally, get ready to enjoy a great season 5 and put this episode out of your mind. The next two seasons are like no other entertainment shows and push Buffy to the heights of television.
Ooh Intro is so Twin Peaks 😊 props to the Editor!
Yes! when Nick reacted to this, I commented that "Restless" is what happens when David Lynch makes a Buffy episode. The Normies might need another week to continue commenting on this.😅
@@kenmcauliffe3028 They figured out this episode faster than most reactors.
Worth remembering that Buffys dreams can be prophetic and in this episode they are all connected due to the spell, so a chance the others dreams could have prophetic elements also.
I cannot believe we are off to start season 5! Such a beautiful, cohesive season. I CANT WAIT
My favorite season.
"I'm a comfortador." That was pitch-perfect dream speak. Especially how much unironic feeling was invested in the word.
This is about to get wild. And please normies when you watch the 5th season remember Buffy's dream and what "Tara" said to Buffy. It's actually quite mindblowing when you rewatch this episode. I got chills when Giles said "you couldn't know, you never had a watcher".
I always look at this episode as the Buffy version of Twin Peaks. If you guys have never watched that show, it evokes the feeling of dreaming very very well, even though the show itself isn’t about dreams. It’s such a surreal and disorienting show, and it’s fantastic.
The editor has likely seen Twin Peaks.
The amount of stuff in this ep is crazy. The foreshadowing is for up coming events is insane.
Btw just so you guys know Willow is the Spirit, Xander is the Heart, Giles is the Brain and Buffy is the strenght. Also every slayer up till buffy has fought and died alone, Slayers do not have long life spans.
They mention the spirit, heart, mind, & hands thing in the video.
6:12 What is Rana's obsession w/ Tara traveling back in time?
34:30 Sleep paralysis is the most stressful thing for me. Trying so hard to wake up, finally doing so, only to realize that I'm still asleep. At a certain point, I just give up and do a sleepception, which actually does tend to wake me. But in a dream, that's often not my first thought.
I am so Marketa swaying away when Giles gets up and sings. He has got such a great voice you cannot help but groove along.
Props for the Twin Peaks intro, love it!
The stuff Willow was painting on Tara's back was Ancient Greek. Specifically, it was a poem by the erotic poet Sappho of Lesbos, from whom we get both the words "sapphic" and "lesbian."
That was modern Greek script. All in uppercase.
The poem was in old Greek however.
“Ancient” Greek were still have little idea about.
Restless is potentially one of the best episodes of the show, and definitely one of the most important. One thing to note is that when Buffy says she and Faith just made that bed, she is of course referencing the dream sequence in the seaosn 3 finale (which was revisited "This Year's Girl"). IN that episode Faith says "Little Miss Muffet counting down from 7-3-0, and in this episode the clock next to that bed says 7:30. What does it mean???
I know Joss Whedon is a prick, but it's impossible to talk about Buffy, especially this episode, without singing his praises as a writer and director. No one, and I mean no one, does a dream sequence like Whedon. There are so many visually compelling shots, bizarre shots, uneasy shots, throughout this episode that just scratch at your brain. And god the writing. We can't even get into that yet.
Finally the score. It's immaculate, what can I say. There's a reason the Restless Suite and the Gentlemen suite receive special recognition from the show itself.
An absolutely perfect episode.
(Side note for those that have seen Person of Interest. When Joyce is laughing in the wall, did she give anyone else major Amy Acker as Root vibes? Their faces were so similar I would have mistaken them for related if I didn't know better.)
Yep, with Tara noting "that clock's all wrong"
“A watcher scoffs at gravity!” is one of my favorite lines in this whole series. Makes me giggle every time.
Originally Angel and Cordelia were going to be in the episode, with Cordelia being part of Willow’s dream and Angel being the one speaking for the first slayer in buffy’s dream. They also considered Faith for Buffy’s
But they were all busy
What in the actual David Lynch?!
Love Restless. Only gets better on rewatch too!
You all are about to experience the best season of Buffy ever. Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Oh, wait . . . you're already into it on Patreon. Never mind.
Buffy’s Twin Peaks episode and now I’m mad that Twin Peaks will never win the poll to be reacted to
🤗
Maybe next year, there will be fewer shows with the strike
"I want more."
Anthony Stewart Head (Giles) is an actual singer, he's got some albums out I think. Google says "Music for Elevators" and "Staring at the Sun".
This is one of my favorite episodes. There's a lot of analyze and some foreshadowing too. After you get through the end of Buffy, you should revisit this.
Giles's song ends.
Rana: "I want more."
Me: "Oh, don't you worry about that."
In a later commentary, Xander said the cut of the take where they are holding up the lighters as they search The Books while Giles sings is so short because Willow (Alyson Hannigan) was laughing so hard they couldn’t get a longer cut..I love Buffy as the best TV for lots of reasons, but mostly because there is honest, believable real change and real development. The Buffyverse is constantly evolving and adapting to their lives and events. As you go to season 5, there is now “less” of the Buffyverse to go in terms of numbers of episodes to watch...cherish it..! Season five is a real barn burner, get ready and strap in for a bumpy ride!
Definitely don't look up stuff bout this ep, it will lead to being unintentionally spoiled, since this has some serious foreshadowing. It will make sense eventually 🤯
This is probably one of the best dream episodes on a tv series. Such imagination and creativity. The quick glimpses of the First Slayer, but not seen clearly as the mind trys to protect the dreamer from a threat It was a bold move to make this episode a season finale, but it works. I loved the the old school technique of a background screen while Xander and Anya were in the van. Consuming cheese close to a sleep cycle is said to induce weirds dreams and nightmares, but I didn't see any of the gang eat cheese. It may have just been a fun red herring and maybe a Twin Peaks ned curtain type of homage. Roll on Season 5 !!
You all are about to go into my favorite season of BtVS: Season 5. Have fun!
"be back before dawn"
LOVED the Twin Peaks intro.
Spidey: Now I can't stop thinking I need to make more room for my cheese slices.
That cracked me up. 😄😆🤣 Nice!
So close to season five. The supernatural soap opera epic fantasy season ❤
I don’t want to post any spoilers, but season five is so..epic, just literally epic..Buffy, what is power, empowerment, love and sacrifice, so many reasons to love the series!
@@johncspine2787 To me it is the perfect season. And it is only possoble because it builds up perfectly on everything that came before
Yes, those shows where characters come and go at random, or changes make no sense, or go 15 seasons with absolutely nothing changing, or worst of all “it was all a dream” or “they were all already dead” just really grate my cheese..lol…@@AnatoleVGC
They aren't ready
The spell they did was an affront to the original essence of the slayer’s power. But everything they did last episode was a combo of Buffy’s strength, Giles wisdom of magic and language, Willow’s magical capabilities and Xander’s heart all in one body. So all the magic and stuff came from the scoobies not the first slayer
28:19 You missed it because you all were talking, but Giles said " You never had a watcher".
The "I wear the cheese, the cheese does not wear me" is a nod to The Man in The Iron Mask.
Not the book, though. 🙂 The 1998 film with Leonardo DiCaprio.
@@ruth2141 yep
The Willow part is not about her sexuality, notice that the clothes that she wore at the end where the same she wore in season 1, should be a small hint om what she fears that people will discover about her.
It’s her “softer side of Sears” outfit
The actor who plays Giles, Anthony Stewart Head, is the brother of Murray Head singer of One Night in Bangkok.
:-)
Great intro, the editing is, as always, top notch!
Fun fact: the band that Giles plays with is Four Star Mary. They sang all the songs for Oz's band (Dingoes Ate My Baby)
This was GREAT! Everybody understanding what was going on in the episode so early into it - that really doesn't happen all the time, so, nice job! Suraj was down with the psychoanalysis. Marketa, Rana, and Spidey all with great observations and reactions. And Mickey picking up on things so fast, over and over again. Everyone was excellent in this reaction. And I loved the intro and outro, too! As we move into my favorite season, thank you for ending this one on such a high note!
Awesome intro
Joss claims that the cheese man is meaningless but my professors’ theory is that the cheese man represents Joss’ own fear regarding the cheesiness of the show. This whole episode is about the characters’ greatest fears so it makes sense that the cheese man would allude to Joss’ fear and the line “I wear the cheese, it does not wear me” provides evidence for this.
Love it when mid/late 90s TV had the space to play around with their format
Willow suffers stage fright. In the nightmare episode her nightmare is having to perform in La Boheme, and in the talent show episode, at the end she just bolts from their dramatic scene. The other stuff… about the book report and taking off her costume… she has come so far and gained so much confidence, but she still fears that underneath it all she is still the same mousy push over. She really spends a lot of energy trying to get away from that person in season 4 and beyond. This and MASH have the most realistic dream representations I’ve ever seen in TV.
And of course, back in the 2nd season, _La Bohème_ was the opera playing on Giles' stereo when he found Jenny Calendar's corpse in his bed. Coincidence? maybe, one gets the impression that it's Whedon's go-to opera for traumatic things...
@@Blazingstoke I'm pretty sure Puccini in general and La Boheme in particular is everyone's go to for coded trauma through opera.
Now you have seen my fave Buffy episode; and my favourite thing ever filmed! It is so layered for the show, but also is one of the best dream things ever done! And dreams are my thing.
This is the episode you are introduced to the true big bad... Cheese.
I've been waiting for S5 since you all started the Buffy reactions and now it is coming up. Can't wait.
I recommend you to read Why Buffy Matters. It explains all subtexts and foreshadows in the show and sooo much more.
It's mindblowing to discover the masterpiece that is Buffy The Vampire Slayer❤
The way I always interpreted is that Tara is an empath (like at a diagnosable level) and that is amplified in unusual ways by her use of magic.
There are no "diagnosable" empaths. That's just something scammer RUclipsrs made up.
I love this episode for two reasons: 1) it's the most realist portrayal of dreams I've ever seen in a TV episode; and 2) it's this one, not the big action climax we got last time, that functions as the culmination of all the character arcs for the Scoobies this season.
Cheese man is love...cheese man is life.
I’m so happy you guys picked up on the Twin Peaks reference, as a big fan of both shows, seeing them combined like that was a huge highlight for me
They went to the Red Room!!!!
Haha. Whedon actually brings up Twin Peaks on the commentary. He says something like, "Some people have asked me if Willow going through the red curtains is a Twin Peaks homage. I was thinking more bluntly about a girl who likes girls walking down a narrow, pink-red hallway."
Some people theorize that both shows take place in the same universe. There's even a potential slayer who gets activated in season 2 right when she becomes a cheerleader, iykyk
Heart of the Cards! I play Pot of Greed, which lets me draw two cards!
The actor that plays Riley IRL lives on out in Ranch now.
I loved this episode more and more with repeat viewings. So many cinematic qualities to love about it. The music, direction, subtext. Sigh
“I could do the whole rest of the episode like that” makes me happy to hear.
My favourite episode. Absolutely love it. So much going on a so much meaning and hints of things to come.
Willow was the Hand, Xander was the Heart, and Giles was the Mind. Buffy was the target of the Spell.
Season 5 is THE SEASON
I half expected to see a bird and hear those two amazing deep guitar picks in the intro.
The best interpretation of the Cheese Man I've found online is that he represents Joss Whedon, trying to insert silly, "cheesy" comedy into the show to lighten the serious moments.
I have faith they will work out the deeper meaning of the Cheese Man. Perhaps they just need the start of another day to figure it out . . .Let's go Season 5!
The Twin Peaks reference 😂😂😂
The cheese stands alone. 😊 And remember what Willow told Riley, "Buffy likes cheese! "
Never noticed...The line where Buffy says, "Faith and I just made that bed." ...calls back to Faith's dream at the beginning of "This Year's Girl".
This episode is makes a fantastic rewatch after finishing the series. There are so many hidden meanings, every scene is constructed quite deliberately.
Joss has gone on record saying the cheese man is the only noticeable part of the dreams that is actually nonsense, and that he represents the parts of dreams which mean nothing. However, years ago I read a fascinating analysis about him which made a lot of sense! This is roughly what is was:
So... Buffy is the cheese. It's her. (There are some other bits in the series where this metaphor also works btw!) When the cheese appears in each dream, it's about each character's personal relationship with her.
Willow: "I made a place for the cheese slices". This is about how Buffy and Willow's friendship has suffered over the year. They have drifted apart, and in order to become close again they have to learn to make space for each other.
Xander: "These will not protect you". Xander is questioning his importance in Buffy's life and likewise is finding himself as a man. As he grows, his problems are no longer of the supernatural kind, and more of the scary scary life kind. He's growing into his own person, and while Buffy can protect him from monsters, she can't protect him from life.
Giles: "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me". Clearly about Giles questioning his authority in Buffy's life. He is no longer her official watcher, but he's not officially her father either, although he loves her like a daughter. In this time of his life, he's questioning how his actions are determined. Are his choices in life of his own volition, or they are all dictated by his love for Buffy? Who is he without Buffy is his life?
Buffy: "JINGLE JINGLE!" Buffy being shown Buffy! This is a reminder for her to embrace her strength, to remember who she is and her power. This moment also snaps her out of the influence of the dream, she remembers herself and decided to fight... or 'wake up'.
So good!
The writing on Tara's back is in Greek...a Sapho poem. Fitting.
You'll have to google to get the exact translation, though.
That design on Tara's back was a poem by Sappho, kerk
I always look forward to reactions to this episode, but I'm especially curious about The Normies doing so. They ended up being right in that if you feel like if your in a dream it's a good representation of being in a dream.
The Normies figued out that the episode was meant to be confusing and why much sooner than most. Lots of reaction viewers are still confused by the time Willow's dream is over. They figured it out as Tara had the poem being painted on her back. Same with when they figured out why The First Slayer was taking things from them aka killing them.
Each dream not only has a theme to it, but what very few people ever talk about is how they shows how the characters view each other and themselves.
Suraj is nailing so many things about all of this. Xander not being able to play in Buffy's sandbox so he instead tries to see her as a sibling works so much better than the debate of people saying Xander only sees her as a sibling at this point and has no ramantic interest in her. That never really fit, as a minor part of his dream theme is about his confusion over romance towards people: Buffy, Joyce, Anya, Willow, and Tara all have hormonal aspects he confuses with romance and/or has to deal with because they aren't romantic, but instead hormonal.
13:40-13:43 That how the sets are actually joined (with the exception of the tunnel, which they built) where they filmed, so they just filmed it from him going from one set to the next.
The cheese man, as Joss said, meant nothing, and just represented the strange happenings in dreams. While I agree I also believe there is more to that. I see him as the trigger that could alllow a person to know they're dreaming. Buffy is the only one who reconizes it and that is why The First Slayer doesn't get to finish it's job with her. Once she knows she is dreaming she can fight back in a way that allows her to wake up. Not the fighting in the desert, but the, "Are you quite finished?" moment. The others assumed their dreams were real until the end. Even as Giles realized who was after them, he didn't reconize he was dreaming.
It's so accurate that Suraj commented how Xander's dream is all about him trying to be with Joyce and then in a lesbian threesome, but it never happens aka the jouney is the point of the dream and not his destinations.
I see the cheese guy as one of those weird random things that pops up in your dreams and when you wake up, you're like, what the hell was that all about? 😄
I like the surreal nature of this episode. I remember thinking it was insane when I first saw it, but I do love the notion that there's so much more to the Slayer than we know. The origins of her, where her power and strength came from, and how she has endured over time. Especially when she attacks Giles and he says, "You never had a watcher..." That really intrigued me. Imagine being the first Slayer, not having anyone to back you up, and having to go it alone and figure things out yourself. Meanwhile, Buffy has her friends; she doesn't need to go it alone like the first Slayer did. Together they make up the whole power of the Slayer - mind, spirit, heart and body/strength.
So I felt for the first Slayer in the dream. She was this amazing warrior and hunter but she was all alone.
I'm so happy. This is my favorite episode of the series. The heart of the show, leaving this comment before the starting ads are even done. :)
When it comes to the Cheese Man, Joss Whedon mentioned in an interview that dreams always have aspects that are meaningless and just don’t make any sense at all, and that was what the figure that has become known as the Cheese Man was supposed to represent, just a meaningless aspect of their dreams. He also pointed out that funny enough, the extreme meaninglessness of the character when it comes to the shows fandom, has actually given the character meaning.
I had a dream during maybe junior high school years (I think - it was a long time ago) and it always stuck with me, and this episode reminds me of it. I dreamed that the walls in the rooms and hallway I walked through were made of dark red curtains (instead of solid walls), very much like all the curtains in Willow's dream. I went all the way to the very top of this building and the curtains were moving and I was afraid someone was hiding in the curtains, waiting to get me. And there was this super tall set of open windows (with the night sky beyond), dark red curtains waving in the wind, and I didn't want to go near them.
And all of a sudden I was pushed through the window and I was falling... and then, obviously (lol), I woke up. Scary! I still remember that sensation of falling and falling, with my stomach dipping like I was on a roller coaster. It scared me! No idea what I was struggling with at the time that my mind was trying to sort through, but I've never forgotten that dream.
So before I watched it I looked up season 4 episode 22. I couldn't find anything any critic says except the writers of the show. Who were very happy with them self. There was a very long paragraph the the writer wrote about himself praising himself. How this is the best episode he's written all eight seasons and how we'll find out how it relates in other seasons. Very much bragging on himself. Considering how goofy the show is anyway I think he's his number one fan. He went on and on about what a great job he did.
I was 11 years old when I watched this episode for the first time. It was the first episode of Buffy that I ever watched.
Joss said at a convention, in regards to mr. Cheese man “in an episode full of meaning, I wanted one thing to be meaningless”
… the rest of the episode is a much different story though 🙂 you’ll have to revisit this prophecy of an episode after you finish the series.
I would love for you guys to read an analysis on this episode. The problem is they're spoilers in this episode for what's coming. Don't go back and look at this episode until the end of season 5.
Joyce was in so little of the season because she was originally going to be killed at the end of season 3 so the actress lined up work by the time joss changed his mind.
She will be back full recurring status next season
The piano player is Christophe Beck..the composer..
Bevor watchingthw actual reaction i think Suraj and Mickey will have a fieldday with this one
Real interesting episode to return to once you've finished the show. Lots of references to future plotlines years in advance.
I never clocked that the shot of Xander getting spun upside down is almost identical to a shot from Apocalypse Now, which was the movie he wanted to watch at the beginning of the episode. They weren’t playing when they made this episode.
Mickey's face during Giles' song 😂
Funny thing this episode made me a fan... even tho I didn't understand a thing lol.
Thats an episode that grows on you after rewatching
I like when people have different ideas about the dreams sequences.
Now on to my favorite season … season 5
Maybe y’all didn’t notice, but Giles’ girlfriends’ baby stroller was overturned and empty, representing her sadness that Rupert couldn’t give her that (or possibly that any relationship with him was destined for badness) in terms of a relationship..