- Article here = www.redbull.com/us-en/pgru-spring-2019-20-11 - X-factor explained = We had a panel of players/TOs/Community Members make a ranking based on where the ythink players are ranked. We take the list they made and compare to the objective list created by our algorithm. The X-factor is the difference between the lists, i.e. a player with an X-factor of +5 was rated 5 places higher by the panelists than he was on the PGR! List of panelists: twitter.com/ThePGstats/status/1151240128217702400?s=20
glad we’re all in agreement that Kameme should be higher, lol. after the initial hype train that was Zackray, i think Kameme has gradually become the best player in Japan. idk how he’s ranked in the teens.
I think consistency is less important than getting firsts and seconds. I think in this system, cosmos overall score is less because he doesn’t have any major tournament wins.
I think they valued wins more than placement. His best win is against Tea (number 15). Even if he won an s-tier, it's cheapened by his lack of top player wins. It seems this also hurt MVD, who placed well, but was lacking in wins.
@@うさ-d5w Ken isn't ranked so a win against him means rather little. You are right though, I did forget about ally. However, he likely wasn't mentioned for obvious reasons, and even then, most of the player above kameme had better wins than one on ally.
Lucas Kinder that’s exactly what I mean. A win on ken is as great as winning against a top10 player, but kameme isn’t rewarded at all. That’s where the algorithm should be fixed
Prediction time boys: Leo Tweek Marss Shuton [REDACTED] Dabuz Samsora VoiD Nairo Light I know Ally is said to be excluded from the PGR, but I cant think of another player that isnt already on the list...
@@Oracle1010 that some dwight howard type stuff. if you dont know what dwight howard did, look it up; its kinda messed up and hilarious at the same time
Gluttony could be in the Top 10! But my guess is that the Top ten will be: 10. Light 9. Nairo 8. VoiD 7. Ally 6. Shuton 5. Dabuz 4. Samsora 3. Marss 2. Tweek 1. Mkleo
Agreed. However frostbite placement screwed esam. His noteable wins are the most impressive on this list though. Zackray too low as well and gluttony too high imo.
So many people complaining, who keep ignoring that the main things that are being considered are ranks in tournaments, who they outplaced, and who they lost to.
Guys, nobody got "robbed." It's literally based on an algorithm. Some may have more skill than their results have shown, but it's not like anybody is getting cheated out of a spot
I really hope they still include Ally, I get why they would wanna omit him but it really takes away from the players who’ve beaten him and ruins the accuracy of the pgr
MVD and ESAM being next to one another is somewhat unique among most top players. It seems that when one is on point, the other isn't. Then again, they play together so often and have been inseparable for so long now that it isn't weird or anything. What was more interesting to me was ESAM's smash factor of 0. I guess his placement was right where most pros and analysts expected him to be
My prediction for Top10: 10. Light 9. VoiD 8. Nairo 7. Shuton 6. Samsora 5. Dabuz 4. Marss 3. Tweek 2. MKLeo 1. Leffen (No but seriously, who am I missing rn? afaik Ally won‘t be ranked, will he?)
yeah i was going through the list too and the only one who could've taken ally's spot would be cosmos but he's already on the list so i think they'll still keep his placement.
i feel like it might end up like: light -> void -> shuton -> samsora -> dabuz -> nairo -> marss -> tweek -> mkleo actually, i have no clue but i lowkey highkey regret that some of the japanese players aren’t a bit higher
Am I becoming more and more colorblind or is that not the French flag when they showed everyone's placement at the end (unless gluttony isn't French, in which case, I'm sorry)
I know it’s gonna be Leo tweek dabuz nairo samsora light void shuton and marss but Idk who the tenth person there will be I was thinking maybe ally but I feel like he’s excluded
Bob the Ross they basically get a ballot of people to put how they think each play should be ranked. The X factor is how close or far the actual rank is to the projected rank. (Ex. If someone has a +15. Then the ballots think he should be about 15 spots higher. If it’s -15 then they think they should be 15 lower. If it’s 0 then they are where they should be.) These have no effect on actual rankings.
it's basically a measure of where the community (pro players, casters, and other selected individuals) thinks the player should be on the pgr. kameme is +5 so when all these selected individuals ranked all the top players, on average, the community thought kameme would be 5 spots higher on the pgr.
so the x factor is how well the panelists thought you did vs the pgr. if you have a negative x factor, that means the panelists put you lower on the list for them, or it also means your carried by one event. A positive x factor means the panelists put you higher on their list and you have the potential to do better
there is a comittee of players, streamers, tos, etc, and x factor is the difference between the number made by the group and the number made by the algorithm
Unfortunately, ESAM is still not top 10. Also, for all the people complaining about cosmos and esam, consistency really matters. Esam and cosmos get upset quite a bit, and losses count quite a lot this season
RJ Chappell PG announced that the B and C tier losses count for a lot, so possibly the losses there counted for more. Or maybe top 10 had better results.
Aneesh Patkar oh ok, and I’m not even 100% on board on that Cosmos got robbed, just thought at first the argument was a little wack, and while I still disagree a little I actually understand it now and wouldn’t be mad at anyone for thinking that, so thanks
I'm just miffed bc they're gonna just skip from 8 to 6 if ally gets 7th and there will be an empty spot and everyone could have moved up, including cosmos, getting him into top 10.
I really thought KEN would be in this PGR. He's definitely the most skilled Sonic player right now. But if he isn't on this list at this level, then I don't think he's here at all. It's just kind of surprising that according to this, Sonido is technically the best Sonic player. And even then, Sonido's in Area 51...
- Article here = www.redbull.com/us-en/pgru-spring-2019-20-11
- X-factor explained = We had a panel of players/TOs/Community Members make a ranking based on where the ythink players are ranked. We take the list they made and compare to the objective list created by our algorithm. The X-factor is the difference between the lists, i.e. a player with an X-factor of +5 was rated 5 places higher by the panelists than he was on the PGR!
List of panelists: twitter.com/ThePGstats/status/1151240128217702400?s=20
So say zackray has an x factor of +2 does that mean he was meant to be 10th or was 14?
MVD and Esam right next to each other made me smile
Even their X-factors were next to each other.
but they are in the wrong order
Mvd should’ve been better
Esam : currently one of the only players in the world to have a positive set count agaisnt Mkleo AND tweek
Pretty sure hes the only one
It's only 1-0 tho. Still impressive.
Cause he never place high enough to face them.
@@JohnWishXC sick burn
@@JohnWishXC He Actually has and when he has they both were already eliminated
Lol when the first half of James's highlights are all F-smash reads
Me: Why is ESAM 16th?
Me: *sees the people ahead of him*
Me: Nvm, understandable
Have a nice day
Because he’s not that good?
Same
If ESAM didn't fuck up his controls at G6 he could've been higher up. He was playing out of his mind that tournament.
Makoto best girl
Kameme's winrate vs the top 50 probably gonna be higher than everyone on this list except for the top 3.
Duck Hunt main in top 20 :)
I personally think Duck Hunt is one of the most annoying characters in the game
It’s amazing how far Raito can get with Duck Hunt 😁. He is a true master of his character.
@@genesisfgc He's also really hard to use, so it all evens out
yeah I don’t care since you rarely see one
@@うさ-d5w you gotta admit tho, when you do see duck hunt, it's a fun thing to watch
Bro the 65th place at Frost bite screwed ESAM over 😢
Feelsbad that Cosmos wasn’t top 10 but I’m glad to hear that Void will be
I think Kameme should have been higher, but all these players are hella good
MacMak3355 let’s go void
Well cosmos is at least borderline top 10.
Kameme won a s tier, he should definitely be higher
glad we’re all in agreement that Kameme should be higher, lol. after the initial hype train that was Zackray, i think Kameme has gradually become the best player in Japan. idk how he’s ranked in the teens.
@@sympathy_for_strays I think that Shuton has the best results of any Japanese player. No doubt though, Kameme should be higher
bro how is kameme that low LOL
getting 25th at your only american major will do that to ya.
because the algorithm heavily favors US players
having an s tier win doesn't mean much unless it's won in merica
@@tecianholmes it doesnt matter what country the tourney is in but now that i think about it he doesnt have enough placements to be higher
@@comet8157 the country doesnt matter the amount of entrants determine how much points its worth kameme doesnt have enough placements
Kameme with that track record lower than Tea makes absolutely no sense
We all know that Zero is going to be no.1
Number 0
F
Number 51
Pogu
You're so dumb zero doesn't play anymore... M2k is going to be number one
Just to let you know: you spelled Spring 2019 as "Sping 2019" in the first few secs of the video
Huge props to Keitaro for making top ten!
You're joking right?
1.MkLeo
2.Tweek
3.Marss
Dabuz
Shuton
Samsora
Nairo
Light
Void
Elegant
-> misses joke
-> unironically puts elegant in top 10
Man, today really isn’t your day is it bud
Kyle Woodowens r/woooooosh
@@kylewood4488-b9r that almost as outlandish as put keitaro is top ten
I'm actually super surprised Cosmos isnt top 10
I know he's done quite consistently in majors
Same thing with Zackray for me
I think consistency is less important than getting firsts and seconds. I think in this system, cosmos overall score is less because he doesn’t have any major tournament wins.
Im very very surprised too
He’s consistently not enough.
watching mvd part
Coney:mvd makes top 8 as he pumps his -cuts off audio lol
Im sorry but Kameme got *ROBBED.* With his results compared to others he's easy top 15, I would argue top 10.
Same, I had him at #4 lol
I think they valued wins more than placement. His best win is against Tea (number 15). Even if he won an s-tier, it's cheapened by his lack of top player wins. It seems this also hurt MVD, who placed well, but was lacking in wins.
Lucas Kinder it’s not that he didn’t beat any of them, he hasn’t faced any of them. He beat ally and ken but both of them aren’t mentioned
@@うさ-d5w Ken isn't ranked so a win against him means rather little. You are right though, I did forget about ally. However, he likely wasn't mentioned for obvious reasons, and even then, most of the player above kameme had better wins than one on ally.
Lucas Kinder that’s exactly what I mean. A win on ken is as great as winning against a top10 player, but kameme isn’t rewarded at all. That’s where the algorithm should be fixed
Prediction time boys:
Leo
Tweek
Marss
Shuton
[REDACTED]
Dabuz
Samsora
VoiD
Nairo
Light
I know Ally is said to be excluded from the PGR, but I cant think of another player that isnt already on the list...
Ally wouldve shown up on esams notable wins list. Idk whats up but maube theyll just skip over Allys number entirely
@@Sunshine-eo2sp LOL, like they go 9 to 7 or something like that 😂😂😂
What happened to ally
Elegant
@@Oracle1010 that some dwight howard type stuff. if you dont know what dwight howard did, look it up; its kinda messed up and hilarious at the same time
Rivers is an echo fighter of Shoyo James
Gluttony and kameme should be higher in my opinion
Gluttony could be in the Top 10! But my guess is that the Top ten will be:
10. Light
9. Nairo
8. VoiD
7. Ally
6. Shuton
5. Dabuz
4. Samsora
3. Marss
2. Tweek
1. Mkleo
Gluto is fine tbh Kameme should def be higher
Its an objective list that uses an algorithm based on their performance, no opinions
Kameme and ESAM should be a bit higher imo
Simone Depure you are absolutely right.
Kameme should 100%
ESAM maybe
Agreed. However frostbite placement screwed esam. His noteable wins are the most impressive on this list though. Zackray too low as well and gluttony too high imo.
whos left:
Leo, Tweek, Void, Nairo, Samsora, Dabuz, Marss, Shuton, Light, Ally.
Unless Ally has been excluded from pgr in that case idk who is missing
He definitely is excluded he hasn't been on a single "notable set count" so they just smited his existence.
EDIT: REDACTED
Y'all forgot the #1, zero
Ally is 4th in the world don't @ me
Ally has to be on it there's noone else
@@matthewrines3281 Zackray just showed up at 12th
Kameme 19th qnd myran 13th? Not sure about that chief
Just results, man. Myran is definitely going to drop in the next season.
Myran has much more placements due to the fact that he lives in southern Florida. Kameme just simply doesn’t have enough placements to be higher
9:16 such a great transition
So many people complaining, who keep ignoring that the main things that are being considered are ranks in tournaments, who they outplaced, and who they lost to.
People are sheep
Are you a sheep?
the perfect timing with Ashley's song and Gluttony's square sign XD
In france it's a famous expression "carré dans l'axe"
Anyone else notice at the beginning it says “Panda Global Rankings Sping 2019” instead of spring
Infinite Depression HAHAHA OMG
It's sping now. Panda global decrees it
MVD and ESAM are right next to each other...how fitting.
Everybody says that zackray isn’t doing good after frostbite, but you can tell that he just isn’t attending any of them.
That boy in school.
Bro! Leffen made top 10! Let's go!!!!!
I love how all of shoyo James’s clips in the intro for him all end with f smash.
Just wondering what they are going to do with Ally Thursday. Biggest decision in the history of the PGR.
5:31 ここC4あったんかーーーいの顔好き
Guys, nobody got "robbed." It's literally based on an algorithm. Some may have more skill than their results have shown, but it's not like anybody is getting cheated out of a spot
At least SOME people get it ;w;
It's funny, but I think in a video, Esam said he is probably top 15, but he is 16. What a accurate prediction.🤣🤣
idk man i think glutonny and kameme should be higher i might be wrong tho
Hagane Shiny the panelists had their X factor higher by like 2
ナイス
That heart stop moment where you didn't know if it was cosmos or nairo at 11th
About damn time!!
So I’m guessing ally is on the pgr since there is only 9 other players left
why wouldn't he be?
djb dkzksnv zack is a hairy grown ass man with mad chest hair and facial hair chill dafuq down
@djb dkzksnv i get what happened. But he better be top fucking 10. Im scared he wont be because his set counts werent on the other players losses...
SSE Ronin Zach is also 17 while ally is 31
I thought people in Canada were aloud to date people 16 and above
Is no one gonna mention how godlike Myrans music is
Damn ppl don’t like olimar Myran has a -7 X factor
i love these so much, Congrats to all the 11- 20 ranked players
I didn't think these placements would be surprising, but they kind of were.
The splatoon 1 music was so nostalgic when cosmos montage was on
How tf is cosmos not top 10
PG mentioned that bad losses account for a lot of placements, both esam and cosmos their fair share of getting upset
probably cuz his set count is likely going to be bad against all the players in top 10, void, Leo, marrs, shuton, dabuz, tweek, etc.
Probably favouring peaks over consistense?
Leon did it to him.
@@jeilastnamejei5831 Bruh, he almost 9 stocked him
shoyo james is rivers now?
Yes
When did this happen?
nah, he went back to being shoyo james
James changed his tag to Rivers in memory of his beloved cat River who passed away a year or so ago.
It's wholesome and I love it.
3:14 I thought you were putting cosmos that low lol
nvm you didn't put him in top 10 😡
What MVDsong？
So guys it's safe to assume Wizzrobe made Top 10
And Leffen
M2k top 3 as well, nice
I really hope they still include Ally, I get why they would wanna omit him but it really takes away from the players who’ve beaten him and ruins the accuracy of the pgr
damn elegant didn't make top 50??? unless hes top 10 but i don't see how that happens
Look at his results in season 1. They were terrible.he was consistently 50-200th at the majors.
Cosmos is my fav so I'm glad hes one of the best
So I guess the top 10 is (in some order) Leo, Tweek, Marss, Samsora, Nairo, Dabuz, Shuton, Void, Light, and...
elegant
@@koog4108 that's funny but no
Someone can say me the name of the soundtrack of minute 3:17
6:30 ESAM arm flap syncs with the music!
Dang cosmo low key all faces top 50 pgr players in tournament
So Shoyo James is known as Rivers now?
Congrats to Videogamedunkey for making Top 10 after beating Sky in smash
Their music choice is so great
So the top 10 is:
Ally, VoiD, Light, Shuton, Nairo, Marss, Tweek, Dabuz, MKLeo and Samsora
Edit: Not in order
Zach Ostiguy didn't pg guys say they'll remove Ally from the list? Cause of all the stuff that he confessed to
@@BlessUpAsh Nah they'll just skip his rank.
GØŁD they’ll probably omit his rank
@@BlessUpAsh Oh I did not know that
if this true then
Leo
Marss
Tweek
Dabuz
Samsora
Shuton
Nairo
voiD
Light
Ally
Does anyone know what music is playing during esams slot? I checked all the smash pokémon music and couldn't find it.
battle champion x and y the song is found randomly through the shop
What song did they use for ESAM?
MVD and ESAM being next to one another is somewhat unique among most top players. It seems that when one is on point, the other isn't. Then again, they play together so often and have been inseparable for so long now that it isn't weird or anything.
What was more interesting to me was ESAM's smash factor of 0. I guess his placement was right where most pros and analysts expected him to be
My prediction for Top10:
10. Light
9. VoiD
8. Nairo
7. Shuton
6. Samsora
5. Dabuz
4. Marss
3. Tweek
2. MKLeo
1. Leffen (No but seriously, who am I missing rn? afaik Ally won‘t be ranked, will he?)
I think he'll keep his placement but they'll skip him? Because he is legitimately the only person that can fill that last spot
yeah i was going through the list too and the only one who could've taken ally's spot would be cosmos but he's already on the list so i think they'll still keep his placement.
Elegant
What song did they use for Rivers???
VOID DID IT. I AM SO PROUD
Top 10 is
Shuton
VoiD
MKLeo
Tweek
Marss
Samsora
Light
Dabuz
Nairo
Ally
What order would y’all put this in
i feel like it might end up like:
light -> void -> shuton -> samsora -> dabuz -> nairo -> marss -> tweek -> mkleo
actually, i have no clue
but i lowkey highkey regret that some of the japanese players aren’t a bit higher
Dabuz shuton light nairo void samsora tweek Marss Mkleo
Top 3 is pretty clear cut 1. MKLeo 2. Tweek 3. Marss but after that I have no clue
That's only 9
Fixed
Zackray would be higher if he didn’t have school and competed more
I’m so glad they respected the change to Rivers for James and put it in here!
Please tell me the bgm used here
6:20
Champion diantha theme
Frostbite and a lack of appearances really hurt ESAM on this one ):
Glutonny is higher than top 14
He has potential to be, just needs to got more tourneys.
Eu bias
Am I becoming more and more colorblind or is that not the French flag when they showed everyone's placement at the end (unless gluttony isn't French, in which case, I'm sorry)
Some notable players not on this season's PGR: Maister, Pandarian, Larry Lurr, Ken, Big D.
Flow, meru, light, scr7 and oryon, missing too
ESAMの喜び方まじで好き
I know it’s gonna be Leo tweek dabuz nairo samsora light void shuton and marss but Idk who the tenth person there will be I was thinking maybe ally but I feel like he’s excluded
Yo, next time I expect to see Elegant in the top 50. He's been lookin' good lately.
John Underwood he had no significant tournaments this pgr season. The 4th at LTC7 isn’t included in this.
@@gluessb , that's why I said next time and not this time.
So glad to see that Reggie Fils-Aime made top 10!
Glutonnys sections the best it has my jam
Gluto's region is the reason he is not top 10 tbh
You are such an idiot lmao
This is where we REALLY get into it boys
That jump sync with the riff at 13:51 lmao
How does the x factor work?
Bob the Ross they basically get a ballot of people to put how they think each play should be ranked. The X factor is how close or far the actual rank is to the projected rank. (Ex. If someone has a +15. Then the ballots think he should be about 15 spots higher. If it’s -15 then they think they should be 15 lower. If it’s 0 then they are where they should be.)
These have no effect on actual rankings.
it's basically a measure of where the community (pro players, casters, and other selected individuals) thinks the player should be on the pgr. kameme is +5 so when all these selected individuals ranked all the top players, on average, the community thought kameme would be 5 spots higher on the pgr.
so the x factor is how well the panelists thought you did vs the pgr. if you have a negative x factor, that means the panelists put you lower on the list for them, or it also means your carried by one event. A positive x factor means the panelists put you higher on their list and you have the potential to do better
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks!
there is a comittee of players, streamers, tos, etc, and x factor is the difference between the number made by the group and the number made by the algorithm
Leader of the Chrom gang in top 20!
My top 10 predictions
1- Leo
2-Tweek
3- Marss
4- VoiD
5- Samsora
6- Light
7- Nairo
8- Dabuz
9- Shuton
10- Who else is there???
Me
maybe ken
It has to be ally with an omitted spot because of pedo stuff
Anybody know what music was used for MVD's section?
I was wondering aswell...............
snake eater
ESAM got 65th at frostbite? How did I miss that
Because he got 65th you probably thought he didn’t go
Top 10 is coming when?
Unfortunately, ESAM is still not top 10.
Also, for all the people complaining about cosmos and esam, consistency really matters. Esam and cosmos get upset quite a bit, and losses count quite a lot this season
Aneesh Patkar wtf I get Esam but Cosmos made top 8 almost every tournament he attended
RJ Chappell PG announced that the B and C tier losses count for a lot, so possibly the losses there counted for more. Or maybe top 10 had better results.
Aneesh Patkar oh ok, and I’m not even 100% on board on that Cosmos got robbed, just thought at first the argument was a little wack, and while I still disagree a little I actually understand it now and wouldn’t be mad at anyone for thinking that, so thanks
I'm just miffed bc they're gonna just skip from 8 to 6 if ally gets 7th and there will be an empty spot and everyone could have moved up, including cosmos, getting him into top 10.
Why are some even set counts put in the "win" category while others are put in the "lose" category?
Idk, maybe they're counting the games won in each set when its even?
Probably depends on if the opponents is ranked higher or lower than the player
Top ten is mkleo Marss tweek samsora Nairo light shuton dabuz and void, who is the 10th?
Henry Fedonchik [REDACTED]
I’m honestly curious how they present [REDACTED]
I’m guessing it’d have to be Ally. Can’t really think of anyone else
It has to be ally. As much of a bad thing he did he was the best snake
I cant think of anybody besides ally
so who’s left:
Mkleo
Marss
Tweek
Nairo
Shuton
Light
Samsora
voiD
and oh fuck it’s Maister isn’t it
Void probably
void
oh yeah void and then one more
ally
Mystic wasn’t he excluded tho? If he wasn’t then yeah but I’m pretty sure he was
What is the song playing for MVD
Snake Eater
Love MVD. He is putting in work this game. Tho his highlights were funny. Up tilt is the truth.
I really thought KEN would be in this PGR. He's definitely the most skilled Sonic player right now. But if he isn't on this list at this level, then I don't think he's here at all. It's just kind of surprising that according to this, Sonido is technically the best Sonic player. And even then, Sonido's in Area 51...
Well the pgr isn’t a ranking of skill. It’s a ranking of how much you attend US tournaments and how well you did at them
@@うさ-d5w I can't believe that some guy who got 13th at their only us tournament got 23rd
Has nario been in top 8
Frostbite, Collision, Suplex city, Prime saga, GOML, Momocon, and Ceo.
Wtf! Cosmos was ranked 23rd in the other video but ranked 11th here. I’m confused!
His results weren't as good this season (this video is old)
slow cooker Home planet I just realized this when I saw the age of the comment. Thank you
Its safe to say that Zero is Top 5 in the next list. I'm mean that's a given...
y’all didn’t need “I cast a hex on you” while gluttony wafted on people my god
Yea boi Tea right there!!
Is Ally gonna be ranked? Top 10 is Leo, Tweek, Marss, Shuton, Samsora, Nairo, Light, Dabuz, Void, and Ally???
He has been excluded from the pgr
@@nulnul7564 Who else could fill his top 10 spot though? Can't think of anyone else
Superpokemaster Captain Zack maybe idk
@@nulnul7564 Captain zack has already been shown, he's somewhere in the 20-40 range I cant remember
Turbo Geschwindigkeit oh ok thanks