NOPE... KAT is a losing player. He has never in his life been a ceiling raising player, why would he start now. Low Basketball IQ, soft mentally and disappears in playoff time... In NYC? What could go wrong? LMAO
Agree that he makes us top 5 offensively and defensively now. I can't believe how many knicks fans are pessimistic about this trade, I think KAT fits this team perfectly
Well if this video is correct that he's a good defensive center then that eases much of my concern but the big thing is that if he doesn't gel w/ the team his contract really limits our flexibility going forward... which is exacerbated by the draft pick (which we are low on since the MB trade) and as a kicker we lost a bit of depth. I think that this was premature b/c I think Randle would have been capable of adapting to the new look of the team... if you must make this trade I would prefer they do it at the trade deadline to see what the roster could do. Now we'll never know :-/ Plus on a side note... most NYK fans have some PTSD when it comes to "this blockbuster trade for this big name talent is going to win us the title! Win now!" We saw them do that for 2 decades while every time it failed spectacularly... so I think most of the pessimism is us bracing ourselves for if this fails and we have to watch the team be terrible for half a decade before they can fix it
They stupid bro. Knicks are a much better team with KAT. Randle hasnt played since January. People forget that the knicks and Jaylin Brunson played soo much better once he got injured.
I loved the OG trade the moment it happened... I was sad to see RJ and IQ go but I thought it would do for the team exactly what it ended up doing. This trade makes me very uneasy and despite me wanting to be wrong my gut says this is going to be a bad trade in the long run
The role that I Hart played within the Knicks defense last year, is the role that KAT is going to play. I Hart is not a product of athleticism or talent, he’s a product of hard work and effort. Understanding this, allows you to understand that if KAT locks in on that end he’ll legit average 1.5 Blocks and 1.0 Steal a game similar to I Hart but is potentially giving you 25-12-4 on offense. This was my dream scenario for the same reasons you mentioned earlier about the NBA trends with stretch 5’s, as spacing is KING. Amazing video bro, good stuff you definitely not a casual.
I think the one aspect of this trade that no one is looking at is the 2024 playoffs and how far they got without Randle. So add KAT to that same team minus DDV and this should indeed move the needle to the Knicks going further and better than before
First thing, I. Hart was the Knicks backup center to Mitchell R. Second, when Mitchell was unavailable to return till at least Jan. The front office needed to pivot as to find a replacement. And third Randle refused to either pick up his option or sign an extension. Donte D. was the cost of moving Randle. Minnesota demanded him in a trade. (After Knicks refusing McBride)
Ihart was the starter if they both came this year back we all knew it... look at the numbers... love mitch but ihart is just mitch with hands who can pass
@@Emeraldtheblackdavid I. Hart was not coming back... let's be real here. No discount. This was his only time in his career to cash in a big contract. The "bag " as young people call it. Mitchell was the starter by default this year. (Before setback)
KAT and Randle are comparable-caliber players at the 4, but KAT’s numbers at center are better. All his mainstream advanced metrics (like PER, WS/48, BPM, etc) were higher before the 22-23 season, when he moved to PF. If this coming season follows that trend, he should be a big upgrade over Randle. Personally, I hope they play him strictly at the 5 and just have Mitchell Robinson come off the bench. MR is really good, but reduced minutes make him likelier to actually make the playoffs in good health.
Great pick man… makes sense for the Knicks…. Donte wanted a bigger role.. Randle wanted a new deal…. We got a big who can space the floor and js an elite scorer and good defender. A no brainer move for the Knicks. Idk about beating Boston yet but I like our chances more after this trade.
@@CH-lx5pb Agreed I just hope Hart works on his outside shot because defenses tend to ignore him. If he can shoot the 3 ball the way he shot it in the playoffs that would be great.
Nobody is unstoppable, there are several good teams, and the Knicks are among them no doubt, but let’s see how all these new stars mesh together before we award them the trophy.
Think about it we didn't like RJ and Quickly trade until OG changed the narrative. Now you have to ask yourself if Towns fit better than Randle and can he replace what Hartenstein brought night in and night out.
I think KAT would help us as long as we can place him alongside BigMitch! The only thing KAT gives us that Randle doesn’t give us is height! Everything else is relatively similar! In my opinion! Randle is a better front court player! KAT us a better offensive Wing player
I believed in Julius Randle and wanted to see him have a fair chance at being healthy in the playoffs with the full Nova Knicks. Is KAT a better player, yes, but I think Julius was insurance if Jalen were to get hurt and miss substantial time. KAT is not the creator Julius is. I always had Randles back and hope he goes OFF in the playoffs with Minnesota. As a Yankee fan, A-Rod had plenty of poor postseasons, but it all came together in 2009 when he single handedly carried them to the World Series. I was hoping and looking forward to a similar story for Julius, but we will not get that.
Let’s not feel to bad for Randle! He’s going to a team that was in the WCF! They still have a good team, minus KAT! Adding JR doesn’t take away from their potential. JR will help any team he’s on! I’m rooting for Minn from the West!
The Knicks first trade completed for a franchise center in their history. The Lakers accomplish that three times including Pau Gasol. The Lakers acquired Shaq through free agency.
You still have kat and bridges you can get thru the playoffs but you would need him for Boston 100% but this team would beat Indiana without him and most other teams in the east
All the knicks needs to do was re-sign Hartenstein, now what makes the 2024-25 team much better? So you putting Hart now as a starter? This is a classic example of don't fix if ain't broke. 2024-25 2023-24 Starters: Brunson Brunson Hart DiVincenzo Anunoby Anunoby Bridges Randle Towns Robinson Bench: McBride McBride / Alec Burks Achiuwa Achiuwa Payne Hart Sims Hartenstein Shamet Bogdanović
Nice thumbnail 🤣🤣🤣. KAT shrinks under the spotlight in Minnesota. I do think it was a good trade for the situation the Knicks were in though. But they would have been better off waiting a year for Embiid after the Sixers inevitable second round exit.
KAT averages have been a little lower in the playoffs I agree with that but it’s no worse than what Julius Randle did when Julius Randle was an absolute train wreck in the Playoffs when he was there… If KAT Does what he did for the most part last year in the playoffs we will be going to the NBA finals
Randle is by far a better player at $28 mill compare to Kat at $49 mill…period!! Randle + Ragu is better than Kat. We gave up 2 dogs for a finesse Kat!!
What bothers me the most is the effect Donte's loss has on other Nova players . Bridges Brunson and Hart will not be as good without Donte, that I can say with 100% certainty .
😂 dude that’s just you going through withdrawal symptoms. Devo wanted to be a starting point guard and he wasn’t going to get that being on the Knicks. Is what it is.
@@TruthSpeaker4 you mean the one game where the Celtics didn’t care since they already had the East locked up?! Hahaha take all the w’s you can get homey. Celtics are trash? Bahahahaha
@@QuietStormP they cared they suited up everybody after resting 4 starters the game before ..playing Full Court defense on JB watch the tape… yall got punished in 3 quarters … Same gonna happen opening night … Celtics don’t scare anyone least impressive Ring of all time
All you people who are saying the Knicks what were the championship do not know basketball call Anthony is not built for New York Knicks this was the worst trade they could have done
Will KAT help the Knicks win the championship?
We shall see.
NOPE... KAT is a losing player. He has never in his life been a ceiling raising player, why would he start now. Low Basketball IQ, soft mentally and disappears in playoff time... In NYC? What could go wrong? LMAO
Still need time to gel. Like Dame to Bucks caused a lot of hype.
As a Knicks fan I hope the answer is yes... but my gut says no
@@moorehoops3490 not if Kat gets stuck playing the 5 all season
Agree that he makes us top 5 offensively and defensively now. I can't believe how many knicks fans are pessimistic about this trade, I think KAT fits this team perfectly
Fans will always complain. KAT will fit in with the knicks like a glove.
Facts. Love and respect Randle for his time, but this is good for the team.
Well if this video is correct that he's a good defensive center then that eases much of my concern but the big thing is that if he doesn't gel w/ the team his contract really limits our flexibility going forward... which is exacerbated by the draft pick (which we are low on since the MB trade) and as a kicker we lost a bit of depth. I think that this was premature b/c I think Randle would have been capable of adapting to the new look of the team... if you must make this trade I would prefer they do it at the trade deadline to see what the roster could do. Now we'll never know :-/
Plus on a side note... most NYK fans have some PTSD when it comes to "this blockbuster trade for this big name talent is going to win us the title! Win now!" We saw them do that for 2 decades while every time it failed spectacularly... so I think most of the pessimism is us bracing ourselves for if this fails and we have to watch the team be terrible for half a decade before they can fix it
They stupid bro. Knicks are a much better team with KAT. Randle hasnt played since January. People forget that the knicks and Jaylin Brunson played soo much better once he got injured.
Trust me they won't complain when we raise the banner
People were hating on the OG trade when it happened to. People have to trust Leon Rose, he’s earned it
I loved the OG trade the moment it happened... I was sad to see RJ and IQ go but I thought it would do for the team exactly what it ended up doing. This trade makes me very uneasy and despite me wanting to be wrong my gut says this is going to be a bad trade in the long run
@@devingiannini2077how Lol we basically traded Divo for Towns..Randle time was up here
People wanted Randle to be traded too and now the front office listened.
The role that I Hart played within the Knicks defense last year, is the role that KAT is going to play. I Hart is not a product of athleticism or talent, he’s a product of hard work and effort. Understanding this, allows you to understand that if KAT locks in on that end he’ll legit average 1.5 Blocks and 1.0 Steal a game similar to I Hart but is potentially giving you 25-12-4 on offense. This was my dream scenario for the same reasons you mentioned earlier about the NBA trends with stretch 5’s, as spacing is KING. Amazing video bro, good stuff you definitely not a casual.
Thanks for the kind words
Let's go new York Knicks
Let's go Knicks!
That was a very thoughtful commentary. Yes, I will miss Divo. Yes, they are better.
Thanks alot 🙏🏽
I think this move makes them contenders
I think the one aspect of this trade that no one is looking at is the 2024 playoffs and how far they got without Randle. So add KAT to that same team minus DDV and this should indeed move the needle to the Knicks going further and better than before
Not only that, think of Divo getting replaced by Mikal who is much better. We are way better than last year’s playoffs squad.
The Knicks have been known to turn players into really good defenders, how scary is that !
First thing, I. Hart was the Knicks backup center to Mitchell R.
Second, when Mitchell was unavailable to return till at least Jan. The front office needed to pivot as to find a replacement.
And third Randle refused to either pick up his option or sign an extension. Donte D. was the cost of moving Randle. Minnesota demanded him in a trade. (After Knicks refusing McBride)
Ihart was the starter if they both came this year back we all knew it... look at the numbers... love mitch but ihart is just mitch with hands who can pass
@@Emeraldtheblackdavid I. Hart was not coming back... let's be real here. No discount. This was his only time in his career to cash in a big contract. The "bag " as young people call it.
Mitchell was the starter by default this year. (Before setback)
This was a steal. Towns is much better then Randle and Divenchenzos role was going to be reduced
The Knicks will win over 60 games next season 🏆
Definitely possible. I think the better spacing will definitely have us around that mark.
EXCELLENT breakdown of the trade and how they fit with their new teams......well done, sir!
Thanks alot 🙏🏽
I know the knicks fans hate it that the big Ragu got traded but kat Will make the knicks much better he is a Scratch big who can shoot the 3.GO KNICKS
Why is Donte “big Ragu”? What does it mean?
@@knicksbarbarian8590 hes italian and ragu is tomato sauce?
@@chadwellington2524 ahh ok! 😂
Excellent analysis!!!
Thanks alot 🙏🏽
KAT and Randle are comparable-caliber players at the 4, but KAT’s numbers at center are better. All his mainstream advanced metrics (like PER, WS/48, BPM, etc) were higher before the 22-23 season, when he moved to PF. If this coming season follows that trend, he should be a big upgrade over Randle.
Personally, I hope they play him strictly at the 5 and just have Mitchell Robinson come off the bench. MR is really good, but reduced minutes make him likelier to actually make the playoffs in good health.
100%. KAT is good at the 4, but great at the 5.
Great pick man… makes sense for the Knicks…. Donte wanted a bigger role.. Randle wanted a new deal…. We got a big who can space the floor and js an elite scorer and good defender. A no brainer move for the Knicks. Idk about beating Boston yet but I like our chances more after this trade.
When kat was coach under tom in Minnesota he was tough. GO KNICKS
Hart will start for his incredible rebounding as a guard
I love the idea of Hart as that 5th starter
@@moorehoops3490 Hart to me makes the most sense his rebounding will be crucial.
@@CH-lx5pb
Agreed I just hope Hart works on his outside shot because defenses tend to ignore him. If he can shoot the 3 ball the way he shot it in the playoffs that would be great.
The champs is here.
Nobody is unstoppable, there are several good teams, and the Knicks are among them no doubt, but let’s see how all these new stars mesh together before we award them the trophy.
Great analysis
Thanks alot 💯
I forgot about what the lineup would look like when Mitch comes back. It will be
KAT. Mitch. OG
Bridges. Brunson
That is a scary.
the pick n pop!!!
Think about it we didn't like RJ and Quickly trade until OG changed the narrative. Now you have to ask yourself if Towns fit better than Randle and can he replace what Hartenstein brought night in and night out.
I think KAT would help us as long as we can place him alongside BigMitch! The only thing KAT gives us that Randle doesn’t give us is height! Everything else is relatively similar! In my opinion! Randle is a better front court player! KAT us a better offensive Wing player
@@glawtonmoore Good take having Mitch still gives us more depth at the 5
Straight up, I'd rather have Hartenstein than KAT. KAT is a losing player, always has been, always will be. I hope I'm wrong, but you know I'm right.
I loved the OG trade the moment I saw it
@@glawtonmooreKAT is a far better 3pt shooter than Randle
I believed in Julius Randle and wanted to see him have a fair chance at being healthy in the playoffs with the full Nova Knicks. Is KAT a better player, yes, but I think Julius was insurance if Jalen were to get hurt and miss substantial time. KAT is not the creator Julius is.
I always had Randles back and hope he goes OFF in the playoffs with Minnesota. As a Yankee fan, A-Rod had plenty of poor postseasons, but it all came together in 2009 when he single handedly carried them to the World Series. I was hoping and looking forward to a similar story for Julius, but we will not get that.
Let’s not feel to bad for Randle! He’s going to a team that was in the WCF! They still have a good team, minus KAT! Adding JR doesn’t take away from their potential. JR will help any team he’s on! I’m rooting for Minn from the West!
I’m also sad to see Julius go but I think KAT will be a better fit. I wish him the best of luck on the Wolves.
Knicks matched the Celtics style of play
The Knicks first trade completed for a franchise center in their history. The Lakers accomplish that three times including Pau Gasol. The Lakers acquired Shaq through free agency.
What happens if OG gets injured?
What if OG and KAT get hurt
You still have kat and bridges you can get thru the playoffs but you would need him for Boston 100% but this team would beat Indiana without him and most other teams in the east
Deuce starts
What does that have to do with anything? Everybody gets injured , stop speaking like a child.
@@louiscollins6365 you’re an emotional one
This trade will back fire yes they will win a lot of games but not a chip
We have no bench depth. We need a piece for the bench
All the knicks needs to do was re-sign Hartenstein, now what makes the 2024-25 team much better? So you putting Hart now as a starter? This is a classic example of don't fix if ain't broke.
2024-25 2023-24
Starters:
Brunson Brunson
Hart DiVincenzo
Anunoby Anunoby
Bridges Randle
Towns Robinson
Bench:
McBride McBride / Alec Burks
Achiuwa Achiuwa
Payne Hart
Sims Hartenstein
Shamet Bogdanović
The Knicks got outbid by the Thunder for Ihart, nothing they can do.
Cwc- welcome too the big apple kat. Welcome home
i think trade deadline was better to trade for him
They might of gotten less for him if they waited that long. Then there would have been just 6 months left on his contract.
Kat’s team got another center to play D! You can’t get rebounds if your at the top of the key jacking threes
KAT improves their offense, but he also makes them softer. The Knicks have put all of their eggs into the KAT basket, and that's a risky bet.
Hopefully the tough mentality the rest of the Knicks have will rub off on KAT!
Love It We Definitely Winning Against Boston
🤞🏽
Celtics in 5
@@zachsanoussi422 lmaooo 🤣🤣🤣
Naw. 🍀
@@Robin-xt7yo Yes
Tbh it all comes down to the knicks bench
Nice thumbnail 🤣🤣🤣. KAT shrinks under the spotlight in Minnesota. I do think it was a good trade for the situation the Knicks were in though. But they would have been better off waiting a year for Embiid after the Sixers inevitable second round exit.
#KnicksNationNoMatterWhat Tho
KAT averages have been a little lower in the playoffs I agree with that but it’s no worse than what Julius Randle did when Julius Randle was an absolute train wreck in the Playoffs when he was there… If KAT Does what he did for the most part last year in the playoffs we will be going to the NBA finals
He makes the Knicks "unstoppable" but he couldn't make the T-WOLVES "unstoppable"?🙄🇹🇹
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I will only accept finals or chip this year & next, period.
Championship or bust 😤
That makes no sense , PERIOD!
would have loved so watch the villanova connec play. i like kat but not for donte.
Celtics in 5
We traded 2 dogs for a Kat..... Nuff said.
Fam Randle is coming off 2 major surgeries & up for a Max Contact..yall got to see the writing on the Wall
Randle is by far a better player at $28 mill compare to Kat at $49 mill…period!!
Randle + Ragu is better than Kat. We gave up 2 dogs for a finesse Kat!!
Randle wasn’t gonna be available at 28 mill anymore at this season with his contract expiring, that’s a big reason he was moved.
How are you a Knicks fan with a poster of THE DEVIL, to the right, on your wall? 🤨👎
*Knicks fan since '91*
MJ? I'm a Knicks fan but also a die hard basketball fan. I love the game & I've played the game for a long time.
What bothers me the most is the effect Donte's loss has on other Nova players . Bridges Brunson and Hart will not be as good without Donte, that I can say with 100% certainty .
Lol, you think they are gonna cry? Or is there some magic at work?
Absolutely not. Their professional athletes. They will get over it and move on. It hurts for sure but these guys all understand it's a business.
You can't be fucking serious? They were good before Donte got here wtf are you smoking. Some of y'all don't know shit about basketball.
😂 dude that’s just you going through withdrawal symptoms. Devo wanted to be a starting point guard and he wasn’t going to get that being on the Knicks. Is what it is.
Still Celtics in 5. 🤷🏾♂️
Celtics are trash we ran them off the floor the one game we played them after the OG trade 😂😂😂 sit down kid
@@TruthSpeaker4 you mean the one game where the Celtics didn’t care since they already had the East locked up?! Hahaha take all the w’s you can get homey. Celtics are trash? Bahahahaha
Knicks fans are a different breed of delusional worse than bucks and heat fans 😂
@@zachsanoussi422 your mother delusional ..Knicks in 5
@@QuietStormP they cared they suited up everybody after resting 4 starters the game before ..playing Full Court defense on JB watch the tape… yall got punished in 3 quarters … Same gonna happen opening night … Celtics don’t scare anyone least impressive Ring of all time
The hospital Knicks and their delusional fanbase shouldn't talk crap at all until they at least get out of R2. Stop it.
All you people who are saying the Knicks what were the championship do not know basketball call Anthony is not built for New York Knicks this was the worst trade they could have done