You did 1 mistake - Blues gems 10 resil+mp5 oder spellpower/mp5 and u will never use nightmare tear in any Slot as holy pala Reason: nightmare tear is to activate your meta with the least ammount of different gems. Warrior for example put 1 Tear into their red chest Slot to put 20 resil anywhere else but activate their meta (relentless earthsiege diamond) As holy Paladin u will have the variety to activate your meta gem anyway and u want spellpower/mp5/resil tear gives none of those wich makes it the worst gem u can use
Resil or Spell Power, prismatic sockets are not prismatic cause they only match the prismatic gem (wich fits in every color), they are called prismatic because every gem fits in them.
@@MEYTRIX The one thing I feel like Hpal NEEDS is arena 123 macros and party targetting macros. Seems SO positioning oriented and there's no room for mouseover/clicking. Already gotten a lot better today just from making that switch. And turn evil on a very accessible key is huge, I swear I use it in half the games.
@@MEYTRIXI came to this video because the Icyveins, Wowhead and other guides are mediocre and lack any consensus. And they use generic information about stats and their priorities, neither explain why they are more important within the context of PVP. It's all damn pve where they put good info.
I know the video is 2+ months old. But if you could answer my question, that'd be great! I main hpala and retail and only have to worry about one judgement. So, my question is what judgement do you use? if multiple, what are the scenarios? Much appreciated, great video!
Thank you, I just use Judgement of light for the Judgements of the Pure talent, you could use J of Justice of the enemy is running away, J of Wisdom for mana restoration for your party members, or J of Light for hp restoration (which is usually the best default option)
I just started playing holy a few days ago, it's fun, some people say give beacon to your teammates in 3s, I've never found a reason to do so, I managed to get to 1.4k rate in solo que, but for some reason, the players I started getting got worse, they do all kinds of weird shit, like LOSing me, chasing behind pillars, when there's no chance to get a kill, etc... Idk how people have 2k+ in solo que, seems impossible.
yeah, at around 1400-1500 it becomes pretty rough pushing the rating there, you also have to choose who you choose to blacklist, that helps a lot if you get rid of 2 trash cans 😄
I always try to Divine Plea when everybody's at full hp and when there is no heavy dmg incoming/no enemy CDs popped, so I don't have to heal with the debuff
Yo I was wondering if holy is viable in shadowplay (aff lock+SP)? Because like holy is just a really good healer in general, and I could see it work well in theory. Or is the lack of slows why resto shaman is favored for the comp?
the lack of slows is a very good point, but you have hand of Freedom - so your team is way harder to slow too + you have the best dispels in the game from both - hpal and sp, I can see this comp very high, but it has many counters too, since there is nobody to peel for the casters (rogue, feral or DK, for instance) so thing like warriors and DKs will go hard on you
@@MEYTRIX Yeah I sort of figured that hpal might even be the better choice against melee cleaves, due to hand of freedoms, aura mastery, and the permanent interrupt reduction aura. And ofc there are the defensive cooldowns provided by paladin with sacrifices, hand of protection, etc. Imo these synergize well with locks, as they lack defensive cooldowns of their own.
@milancelebic5002 thank you, I no longer use the addon, I am using an addon copying blizzard raid frames, but the Grid2 profile I believe is mostly from a Warmane forum link
Come on my Discord, I just posted all the names there in the general channel, you will find an invite link in the community tab’s latest post on my channel
also a good combo, but then if you don't face a DK or warlock, then Turn Evil is completely useless, and Cleansing is good all-purpose, but I don't have mana issues as a Holy Paladin, I need stronger heals, so that's my preference according to my playstyle and gear
I never cared about it and never missed a spell, so idk if it’s necessary, it might have been a bugged stat on Warmane though, if you are missing spells into the same lvl mob or player, then get more hit
Gem MP5 and try to get trinkets for mana regen, also use Divine plea early when there is not much incoming dmg (so you don’t have to heal while under the effect of Divine Plea with nerfed healing), and try to drink any time you can if possible if enemies have no dps CDs up
same as any other season pretty much - SP, Int, Crit, MP5 - depending on the environment, what comp you are playing and what comps you are facing, eg. if you are facing a lot of bursty comps - you will want to have more crit for bigger heals, if the games are long you might wanna have more MP5 so you don't run out of mana
BS+JWC for the sustained +int, or if you can make the best out of it and track the proc - you can go Tailoring, and ofc Engineering in world PvP and the glove rocket
I personally enjoy playing on Warmane's Blackrock and Frostmourne realms a lot nowadays, and my personal top 3 private servers would probably be: Warmane, Stormforge (Mistblade) and Ascension
a lot of your healing comes from Flashes of Light, which heal for very little, so the more SP - the bigger the heals on these fast-cast Flashes...but still, you esentially have Int where you have SP - similar items, even gems with +10 int + 10 SP so it goes hand in hand
@@MEYTRIX ok that makes sense. also would you want to use all mp5 deadly glad off set pieces or would you use crit for season 1 of classic? I am just a little worried the games will be so fast that the mp5 might not be as valuable
@@HiTxMaN93 depends on the games, if you have longer games - go for mp5, if it's more about burst and short-term survivability - then go for crit...all depends on the environment, pvp bracket, your comp and opponents that you keep bumping into, so it's best to just do few games and see what you are lacking more
World of Warcraft, server Warmane Wrath of the Lich King, you can download it at warmane.com or play similar version of the game called WotLK Classic - download battlenet app and then download the game from ther
@@stekoul8218 Lower rank spells still cost the same amount of mana while healing or doing less damage its entirely pointless unless you know for sure you're going to get hit with a spell reflect
@@deadman0315 I copied that style from Hansol 😁 much of it are also cancelaura macros, party and arena123 macros, and the entire UI is still a work in progress, I keep changing addons all the time
I play on Warmane, it is the best WotLK server for me, but there are many more: Circle, Stormforge Fordring, Sunwell, Dalaran WoW, Chromiecraft, and many more, they are all free
Just go warmane blackrock, be insta 80 free proffs echants/gems and get your best in Slot gear with just 2050 rate - nothing more or easier to ask for if u wanna Play a bis season 8 char
if you go to the community tab in my channel - I made a post recently where I uploaded all of my addons - you can download them directly there, or you can also watch one of my addon videos from the past few months
not on Classic, but on the OG WotLK and on any private server you can, and this is not a Classic guide since Classic is not even out yet (although most youtubers like to make guides for Classic since early 2022)
You did 1 mistake - Blues gems 10 resil+mp5 oder spellpower/mp5 and u will never use nightmare tear in any Slot as holy pala
Reason: nightmare tear is to activate your meta with the least ammount of different gems. Warrior for example put 1 Tear into their red chest Slot to put 20 resil anywhere else but activate their meta (relentless earthsiege diamond)
As holy Paladin u will have the variety to activate your meta gem anyway and u want spellpower/mp5/resil tear gives none of those wich makes it the worst gem u can use
aha, good to know, thanks for correcting me!
what would you use in prismatic slot?
Resil or Spell Power, prismatic sockets are not prismatic cause they only match the prismatic gem (wich fits in every color), they are called prismatic because every gem fits in them.
Didn't expect Holy Light to be considered not very useful, I thought Light's Grace + judgement haste would've made it quick enough to be good
It also spends a ton of mana, so just spamming couple extra Flashes is way better
@@MEYTRIX Makes sense, thanks
love the way i could just find the info without watching the video. heres a thumps up !
Great guide, thanks Meytrix. Trying hard to learn Hpal, getting plowed at the moment but improving 5% each game. :)
Thanks! I had to learn a lot too coming from Cataclysm, but if you dedicate the time and effort - you will see the results
@@MEYTRIX The one thing I feel like Hpal NEEDS is arena 123 macros and party targetting macros. Seems SO positioning oriented and there's no room for mouseover/clicking. Already gotten a lot better today just from making that switch. And turn evil on a very accessible key is huge, I swear I use it in half the games.
@@NOHITJEROME I don’t bump into DKs and wlocks much so I don’t even use the TEvil glyph, I usually just LoS the Goyle
Thanks so much, hard to find pvp holy paladin info most of the time.
Yea, I was struggling to find something pvp related too
@@MEYTRIXI came to this video because the Icyveins, Wowhead and other guides are mediocre and lack any consensus. And they use generic information about stats and their priorities, neither explain why they are more important within the context of PVP. It's all damn pve where they put good info.
Yo mate or anyone else, do u guys have a macro for gargoyle cleanse that is working? Cuz i could not find anything good at internet :-(
thank you, well put together guide
Thanks! 😳
@@MEYTRIX m
Awesome video! I am excited to main hPala for wrath arena and this has been very informative.
Thank you, glad it helped!
I know the video is 2+ months old. But if you could answer my question, that'd be great! I main hpala and retail and only have to worry about one judgement. So, my question is what judgement do you use? if multiple, what are the scenarios? Much appreciated, great video!
Thank you, I just use Judgement of light for the Judgements of the Pure talent, you could use J of Justice of the enemy is running away, J of Wisdom for mana restoration for your party members, or J of Light for hp restoration (which is usually the best default option)
I'm actually kinda excited for holy paladin my friends are going war and dk so I went pally
smart choice, you are a good friend that you went for the most suitable class for the comp :D
what is the addon you use that makes the picture of the spell come up when its off cooldown ? xxxx
DoomCooldownPulse
What professions should I get?
BS+JWC is the best for most classes on WotLK, but you could also go Engineering for BGs and world pvp
Hi, do we need any hit rating from gear? Or is the 4%hit from Enlightened judgement talent enough?
Hey, good question, you don’t need hit, it should be enough from the talents
I just started playing holy a few days ago, it's fun, some people say give beacon to your teammates in 3s, I've never found a reason to do so, I managed to get to 1.4k rate in solo que, but for some reason, the players I started getting got worse, they do all kinds of weird shit, like LOSing me, chasing behind pillars, when there's no chance to get a kill, etc... Idk how people have 2k+ in solo que, seems impossible.
yeah, at around 1400-1500 it becomes pretty rough pushing the rating there, you also have to choose who you choose to blacklist, that helps a lot if you get rid of 2 trash cans 😄
@@MEYTRIX Yeah, literally won 5 in a row Vs a team with a rogue I blacklisted 😂😂😂
I use Greatness Trinket and pop my Divine Plea, I could be OOM and when greatness falls off i'm full mana again.
I always try to Divine Plea when everybody's at full hp and when there is no heavy dmg incoming/no enemy CDs popped, so I don't have to heal with the debuff
Yo I was wondering if holy is viable in shadowplay (aff lock+SP)? Because like holy is just a really good healer in general, and I could see it work well in theory. Or is the lack of slows why resto shaman is favored for the comp?
the lack of slows is a very good point, but you have hand of Freedom - so your team is way harder to slow too + you have the best dispels in the game from both - hpal and sp, I can see this comp very high, but it has many counters too, since there is nobody to peel for the casters (rogue, feral or DK, for instance) so thing like warriors and DKs will go hard on you
@@MEYTRIX Yeah I sort of figured that hpal might even be the better choice against melee cleaves, due to hand of freedoms, aura mastery, and the permanent interrupt reduction aura. And ofc there are the defensive cooldowns provided by paladin with sacrifices, hand of protection, etc. Imo these synergize well with locks, as they lack defensive cooldowns of their own.
@@samisuhonen9815 exactly
What addon shows when the enemy team swaps targets?
I don’t even know there’s an addon for it tbh 😳
hey what addons do you use for your party frame ? Im using the raid party frame but cant really customize traking for buff and debuff :s
Hey hey, it’s Grid2
@@MEYTRIXhey man, nice guide.
Could you please share your grid2 profile?
@milancelebic5002 thank you, I no longer use the addon, I am using an addon copying blizzard raid frames, but the Grid2 profile I believe is mostly from a Warmane forum link
what addons do u use? the link in community expired:( thank u!
Come on my Discord, I just posted all the names there in the general channel, you will find an invite link in the community tab’s latest post on my channel
Hmmm IDK but I use Glyph of Holy Shock/Glyph of Turn Evil/Glyph of Cleansing
Seems the best to me.
also a good combo, but then if you don't face a DK or warlock, then Turn Evil is completely useless, and Cleansing is good all-purpose, but I don't have mana issues as a Holy Paladin, I need stronger heals, so that's my preference according to my playstyle and gear
@MEYTRIX What addon you use for pvp to show your party like that?
that's Grid2
@@MEYTRIX How you made it like that , it's look so good
@@me4music1 there are finished templates you can download, I got mine from Warmane forums I think
Can you maybe post it here ?
@@Fleuming1 I have no idea which one it was, something like this maybe: forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=335369
What's paladin spell hit % should be?
I never cared about it and never missed a spell, so idk if it’s necessary, it might have been a bugged stat on Warmane though, if you are missing spells into the same lvl mob or player, then get more hit
I struggle with mana in arenas any tips on regen?
Gem MP5 and try to get trinkets for mana regen, also use Divine plea early when there is not much incoming dmg (so you don’t have to heal while under the effect of Divine Plea with nerfed healing), and try to drink any time you can if possible if enemies have no dps CDs up
wath are the stats prio
in the first season
same as any other season pretty much - SP, Int, Crit, MP5 - depending on the environment, what comp you are playing and what comps you are facing, eg. if you are facing a lot of bursty comps - you will want to have more crit for bigger heals, if the games are long you might wanna have more MP5 so you don't run out of mana
profession?
BS+JWC for the sustained +int, or if you can make the best out of it and track the proc - you can go Tailoring, and ofc Engineering in world PvP and the glove rocket
Any private server worth trying right now?
I personally enjoy playing on Warmane's Blackrock and Frostmourne realms a lot nowadays, and my personal top 3 private servers would probably be: Warmane, Stormforge (Mistblade) and Ascension
Why enlightened judgement? Why should I care about hit rating?
good question, hit for Hammer of Justice so it doesn't miss, and occasionally for the judgement range to get in combat early against rogue teams
why do you prio spell power over int for geming and enchants?
a lot of your healing comes from Flashes of Light, which heal for very little, so the more SP - the bigger the heals on these fast-cast Flashes...but still, you esentially have Int where you have SP - similar items, even gems with +10 int + 10 SP so it goes hand in hand
@@MEYTRIX ok that makes sense. also would you want to use all mp5 deadly glad off set pieces or would you use crit for season 1 of classic? I am just a little worried the games will be so fast that the mp5 might not be as valuable
@@HiTxMaN93 depends on the games, if you have longer games - go for mp5, if it's more about burst and short-term survivability - then go for crit...all depends on the environment, pvp bracket, your comp and opponents that you keep bumping into, so it's best to just do few games and see what you are lacking more
@@MEYTRIX another question, do you not care about spell pen or spell hit at all to land your hoj or hit your spells?
@@HiTxMaN93 nope, I don't think I've ever missed a spell
What’s the name of the Game pls? And where can i download it,ty
World of Warcraft, server Warmane Wrath of the Lich King, you can download it at warmane.com or play similar version of the game called WotLK Classic - download battlenet app and then download the game from ther
@@MEYTRIX can i play this on my phone? Or just in pc?thanks
@@rufinojrmanucot9948 PC or Steamdeck
You only use max rank spells right?
yep, that's right
@@MEYTRIX ty
@@stekoul8218 Lower rank spells still cost the same amount of mana while healing or doing less damage its entirely pointless unless you know for sure you're going to get hit with a spell reflect
Just gem and enchant all resist and laugh at arenas. Trust me, if you want kicks and giggles playing arena, try it one time.
Hmmm I gotta try 😯
why zapy fabric kills me like a bitch :( how to live against shm wara horror😢
That’s rough, I can feel your pain 😥
čau hele mam otazku kolik stoji 1 blue gem 10resil+mp5
čus, ja som ich inde ako na Blackrocku nekupoval, a tam sú zadarmo, na ostatných realmoch netuším, ale určite to nebudú vysoké ceny
leveling a pally atm on wow classic and i was so scared to pvp, i always get nuke until now 😉😈 revenge is coming !
Hehehe let them taste your retribution 💀
why is you're UI so scuffed lmao
because I like it that way and it made me a multirank 1 player!
@@MEYTRIX I mean if it works it works, but you have the same things showing twice or more lol.
@@deadman0315 I copied that style from Hansol 😁 much of it are also cancelaura macros, party and arena123 macros, and the entire UI is still a work in progress, I keep changing addons all the time
@@MEYTRIX multi 1.5k
@@kyriaeladrys1036 no worries, just practice and you will get there too! 😎
U know any server with free wrath?
I play on Warmane, it is the best WotLK server for me, but there are many more: Circle, Stormforge Fordring, Sunwell, Dalaran WoW, Chromiecraft, and many more, they are all free
I mean free wrathful gladiator gear
@@Defeatedftw oh ok, no, there is no such server to my knowledge, the most you get is Relentless gear on Wrathful season
@@Defeatedftw I was also looking for such a server .. let me know when u find it lol
Just go warmane blackrock, be insta 80 free proffs echants/gems and get your best in Slot gear with just 2050 rate - nothing more or easier to ask for if u wanna Play a bis season 8 char
Addons name pls
if you go to the community tab in my channel - I made a post recently where I uploaded all of my addons - you can download them directly there, or you can also watch one of my addon videos from the past few months
No hablo takataka en español
😆
you can not stack trinkets btw
not on Classic, but on the OG WotLK and on any private server you can, and this is not a Classic guide since Classic is not even out yet (although most youtubers like to make guides for Classic since early 2022)
Why make a guide to say the obvius !?
What is obvious to you, is not obvious to a thousand other people 😉