An alle wo immer so gut schätzen können daheim an ihrem PC. Es wird hier angezweifelt das der 8S1P Rigger so schnell läuft ( 331 km/h ) siehe die zweite gerade ab 1:46, übrigens sind das ca. 500 m wo der Rigger da zurücklegt. Der Messbereich per Lichtschranke beträgt 100 m, jeweils 200 m dienen zum anfahren und für den Auslauf. Übrigens hält dieser Rigger ja auch den Weltrekord mit 314 km/h Durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit über 2x 100 m in beide Richtungen. Der wird aber anscheinend nicht angezweifelt. 314 km/h sind dann anscheinend in Ordnung aber 331 km/h unmöglich. Ist wohl am besten wenn ich in Zukunft Kommentare komplett deaktiviere.
Extremely impressive, bravo. This is actual engineering at this point, everything is custom built just for this purpose. I admire it so much. I don't understand all the comments, peope are dumb and jealous at the same time. Cheers!
I can't understand it either. Jörg is well-known in the SAW scene, and these people only celebrate him. He has held the absolute world record with his outriggers for tens of years. Sorry translator 😅
Kinda wild how low buoyancy it has. It's much like the real life Bluebird K7 or unlimited hydros in the US for instance. They push sooooo much water until they're up on plane. Though I think Jorg has really pushed the limits. It floats about as much as a submarine in surface mode. The fact that its planing surfaces appear to provide very very little lift as well is quite interesting. Plus the sponsons, if I'm reading the lines correctly, will actually provide a measure of aerodynamic downforce probably contributes to how aggressively it digs in if the launch angle is just a tiny bit too low. All that said, I think the most impressive thing is that physics even allows such a small propeller to still provide thrust at such high rpm!
Jeder wo will kann ja im September nach München kommen und sich das Live anschauen oder auch an dem 5. SAW Wettbewerb mit einen Boot nach Reglement teilnehmen. Anyone who wants to come to Munich in September and watch the live or participate in the 5th SAW competition with a boat according to regulations.
So far there are only 2 people in the world who manage to drive over 300 km/h. Jörg and Arne are a joint project. Everything was self-built, calculated and developed. Take a look at the first video of Jörg with his 8S rigger, there I gave a very precise setup and logs are under "Description".
No place for GPS. Official competition and there is measured by light barrier over a distance of 100 m. Here is the homepage with results and max topspeed. rc-saw.de/viewpage.php?page_id=20
@@fast-rc-boats Hello from Australia just got into the RC car hobby noticed that top speed runs are verified by third parties and Guinness world records have you thought about putting in a officially speed run.
@@jozua715 The SAW event in Munich is an official speed competition. The speeds are determined by a light barrier up to 3 places after the decimal point.
Ich schreibe jetzt auch mal in meiner Muttersprache. Es ist schon traurig aber anscheinend wahr dass manche hier nur weil sie es sich nicht vorstellen können teilweise so ein Scheiss schreiben das man es gar nicht genehmigen kann. Tatsache ist dass dieser Rigger das schnellste RC Boot ist wo es nach dem SAW Regelwerk (sowohl in den Staaten wie auch in Deutschland) gibt. Auch wenn es manchmal von der Kameraperspektive nicht danach aussieht. Leider gibt es halt auf der ganzen Welt nur sehr wenige Leute wo das Hobby so intensive betreiben. Diese wissen aber dann auch wer Jörg M. vom Jag`s Team ist und das die werte korrekt ermittelt wurden.
Es wirkt tatsächlich nicht so schnell. Aber von Booten hab ich keine Ahnung. Kann aber sagen ein kleiner Flieger tief geflogen wirkt deutlich schneller als ein Großer in größere Höhe, das kann täuschen...
It doesn’t appear to be 200mph because it’s tiny. A full size boat moving 200mph would actually “appear” to be going 200. My rc car doesn’t look like it’s going 50, but it is.
actually, I find it to be the other way around, if the boat or car or aircraft is longer, then it appears to pass it length in a longer time and thus appears to be going slower the longer it is.
That doesn't make sense, as something small scale looks like it's going even faster, and to scale it usually is, but that didn't look like it was going 200mph to me.
Hey, as a school project were making rc raceboats, any tips for making an outrigger. we will be making it out of glass fibre so shape wise a lot is possible, my cam skill are reasonably good to. So any tips for ponson shape or anything related to outriggers is welcome, im tryharding for this project and want to kick some ass.
Hello Jeroen, the first thing you have to decide is whether you need a boom for a SAW rigger or which one for an oval rigger. I can only give you the tip to register in a forum, you will certainly be helped there. In Germany there are a lot of model builders in the RC Raceboat Forum. In America it's Offshore Electrics Forum. (google translator) My english is to bad.
Incidentally, I have not been active for 5 years now and only operate this channel. This year there will probably not be many videos either because all events in Germany are forbidden because of "Corona".
Fast RC Boats il give thosse forums a try. I can speak a little german since im dutch so that wont be a problem. Also whats the difference betweeen a SAW rigger or an oval rigger. And whats a boom?
@@jeroenbeskers3012 Bei einem "SAW" Rigger geht es nur über 100 m gerade aus mit maximaler Geschwindigkeit. Bei einem "Oval" Rigger wird meisten über 5 Minuten rechts herum im oval mit mehreren Riggern gefahren. Dementsprechend sind auch die Schwimmer / Ausleger unterschiedlich von der Geometrie und den Abmessungen. Melde dich bei RC-Raceboots an, da gibt es glaube ich auch ein paar Holländer. Auf jedenfall kann dir dort geholfen werden.
Fast RC Boats danke. For school we need do a staight line race and a slalom race. But were going for the straight line since slalom is at really slow speed so a little turning would be good.il make an account. I can also give you the parts list that we were given if you want
Engine from Lehner (LMT). In the beginning a 2260 was installed. In this video I think it is a 2265 (custom-made). The "esc" is a self-made device that can handle 1000 A. Accu 8S1P. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html Here you can find all information.
@@bdanielcal4608 Jörg, has built his own ESC for this 8S rigger, which can last at least 1000 A. In one of the videos you can see the components. I don't know the new Hydra, so I can't say anything about it.
@@fast-rc-boats I put the hydra in my zipp 33 fe and it definitely ain't anywhere near 1000 around 300 I would say I'm running a tp 1650 kv on 8s 6000 120c packs and it doesn't get over 110.f
All speeds that were not used in official competitions such as "SAW" are determined with GPS. SAW speeds are determined as the average speed over a measuring distance of 100 meters using a light barrier. This procedure is even more precise than a GPS measurement.
Impossible @ 206 mph. Don't believe it in I've seen riggers run as fast as 125 and it takes a longer stretch be of water to get it flying across the water. So it's impossible to go that fast
There is nothing to discuss about. Everyone knows where in the SAW scene knows what speeds are driven by Arne, Gunnar and Jörg (Jag's team). Moreover, this is all officially measured by photocell over 100 meters. It is also just the pure top speed. The world record is also by Jörg according to SAW regulations with 314 km / h avg. (sorry google translator)
ruclips.net/video/cRXafcIwvkY/видео.html It is impossible for those riggers, correct. But that's the only thing you got right. The riggers are working with a fraction of the horsepower of these SAW boats. That's why they are so slow in comparison. The flip side is that they can run at top speed for more than a few seconds, unlike these boats that are pulling hundreds of amps for a very short burst and trying not to smoke themselves in the process.
its hard to read some of dumb comments here- that takes me back when i was in RC fast electrics too- you can hear everything from dumb folks on shore. Better not posted that high tech stuff on youtube:) some still thinks earth is flat :))))
Do you have telemetry/data logging on this boat? The reason I ask is that I'm curious to know what is the maximum motor rpm under load (during a run). You guys have really lead the way for the last couple of years, so well done!
This is still the first video with 285 km / h avg of 2016. Under "more prestige" or show more there is all data about this rigger. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
The 40 -50k rpm range is not high enough for this boat. I'm running electric - driven outrigger boats for oval - racing - use for years at this rpm level. This boat runs at a significant higher rpm level. You could hear the difference. I think the Jörg - Mrkwitschka - outrigger needs around 70k rpm for its maximum speed. LMT motors offer custom - made versions with a titanium ring around the rotor ( rpm limit 100k ... not only 65k ). J. Mrkwitschka' s battery is extraordinary powerful for its size. I never heard how powerful his battery really is. But remembering data from former record attempts... with lower power level on board ... I think his battery is able to bring out 22 or 23 kW peak. In my opinion... not bad for a battery pack weighing not much more than 1100 gr. 😉.
@@dirkstaudt4341 Hallo Dirk, ich habe ein Video mit sämtlichen Daten und Hardware angaben von Jörg seinem ersten SAW im Jahre 2016 mit diesem Boot. Damals drehte der Motor schon ausbeschläunigt 63900 rpm. Bei kleinen Sprüngen stiegt die Drehzahl auf 70.000 rpm an. Ich habe schon so viele Fragen zu diesem Boot bekommen und das obwohl ich im ersten Video schon alles dazu geschrieben hatte. Leider liest anscheinen heutzutage keiner mehr was. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html Im laufe der Jahre wurden nur kleiner Änderungen daran vorgenommen.
The old SAW record was also driven by Jörg in the USA. The current one is also owned by Jörg and was driven in Munich 2017 / 315 km/h. Video from 2017: ruclips.net/video/DvTpkAt3tnE/видео.html
These are pure SAW boats where only speed is trimmed for 2x 100m. That is very special. I would start with setups where you can drive about 4-5 minutes. that is going to be very fast. The best and easiest way to do this is to use a 2-engine catamaran.
This is not my rigger. 8S1P / engine LMT 2260/5 spez. (ca. 2000 kv) Setup 2017. I do not know if the same engine was installed in 2018. You can read the complete setup with the log files in this video under the video description. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
@@ken3137 Jörg the owner of the rigger is also a professional in his class. The 2000 kv are also load speeds where Lehner states. All other engine manufacturers almost always give only the idling speed, from which you have to deduct 10-15%. The lipos can also be loaded with 100 C. Jörg made a self-made controller with 1000 A for it. Sorry for the bad english, translator.
@@fast-rc-boats That's cool, it's just that in Australia we used full stops. commas just seperate large numbers into chunks. Germany sounds cool though!
@@poebemaryn You don't have to believe it, even if it corresponds to the facts. Ihr müsst das ja nicht glauben, auch wenn es den Tatsachen entspricht. Jeder der sich mit SAW Racing beschäftigt weiss das es stimmt und kann es in den offiziellen Listen nach schlagen.
@@poebemaryn, probably you do not know who are those guys: this is the worldwide elite, everything self built after many years of experience … and speed measurements are official … what you believe, is just yours …
This is a very hot setup. I would only try this in a very light and free running rigger. Your speed will be at least 57000 kv under load (2300 kv -15% / 4,20 under load 3,65 V)
ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html Look at this video too. It is the same Rigger. Below the description you will find all information about the setup (but in german). At that time he ran just under 300 km / h. Meanwhile, the speed was screwed up by new propellers and a slightly modified engine. Jörg hopes at some point to crack the 350 km / h, maybe even in 2019 in Munich on the SAW.
@@fast-rc-boats.. yes definitely.. I liked the seeing the boat smooth out and get into some real speed. Thankyou i will have to find a stronger rigger also for the TP 2300KV cm motor and the motor is only allowed 15secs at full rpm
Engine from Lehner (LMT). In the beginning a 2260 was installed. In this video I think it is a 2265 (custom-made). The "esc" is a self-made device that can handle 1000 A.
I'm just saying that it looks to me like that's 60 to 90 mph at best. Its definitely not 206 mph or whatever you claim it is. Other than that nice job. It's got so much torque it dives into the water bf it plans out lol
It's weird that this rigger ran 177 mph in 2016 and 2017 195 mph avg. That's why these values are right. Or someone comes again and writes that the measuring system was not calibrated properly. And this for 3 years in a row.
Well that's all fine and dandy but until I see proof then to me it does not look that fast at all. Its definitely fast for sure. Like in the rc cars they will show you the speed. But I just don't see 206 on the water when I watched another boat that was black run o shit it was well over 100 mph and bf he showed its speed I guessed it around 95 and yes I was off but I was closer to guessing at it than this boat and I dont see proof that this boat runs that fast. I'm not trying to be a dick, ass,troll or any of the other slangs. Just want you to know that bc anyone can read something and it get taken the wrong way. You know what I mean? And I respect what you said but until me and I'd say many other people see proof that this boat runs as fast as claimed we not gonna believe it. And if you do show proof then I will gladly type anything in the comment section that you want me to. Thanks for your info. And I will say again that is a sweet boat and it definitely is fast. One question. What is it made of? If you don't want to give that info out I totally respect that.
What in America the "NAMBA" is, is the "RC-SAW" in Germany. Here is a link where all official records can be found. There is also a file with the top speeds. I also think that all American SAW driver Jörg M. from the Jag`s team understands. Each of our SAW competitions takes place in Munich, at which time the "Oktoberfest" takes place. Anyone who does not believe it can come by and watch the spectacle or go for a ride. Then, of course, observe the rules where to comply. In the first video of 2016 you will also find all information about the boat under the video (see more). rc-saw.de/news.php ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html I have written all that before. Sorry for the english, translator.
Look at the last 2 runs of the video I posted a link to. It shows the speed. Seeing you wish for proof of how fast this boat is. ruclips.net/video/kM_2_VAhE3g/видео.html
Meanwhile when I was a kid a guy at the track who was well known for fast boats. Came along with a Dumas .67 Skater with duel .67's in it. Painted red with serious business on the side. He cracked the hull on the third pass and the two before it would roll in a turn. You boat may be fast in the electric world. But, son you need to understand what nitro is.
@@AB-80X His post is serious. The pass in the video is not the 206mph pass. If anyone doesn't know what an RC boat looks like, at 60/100/200mph on the water, check out the other videos of this specific rigger on this channel.
Has the title been changed or is it something I'm not understanding? 311km/h being 206mph seems totally correct. I also dislike people hating on your English as your obviously a German channel, just having English titles :)
I left out the decimal places in the title. Because it was not understood by some. I almost always write titles in English and are easier to find for the rest of the world. I don't speak English (translator)
That didn't look like it was going 200mph to me. I'm not a human speedometer, I'm just saying, and just wondering if it got that fast on other footage that wasn't shown here.
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@@brycering5989 If it comes from the English (Trust UK) then point instead of comma. In German-speaking countries, the metric system always uses a comma for km / h. Here's an excerpt from Wiki. de.wikibooks.org/wiki/PSA_Mathematik/_Grundrechenarten#Das_Komma_bei_Dezimalzahlen See Definition Point 1.5 Das Komma bei Dezimalstellen (für den Deutsch sprachigen Raum). This is a very confusing topic if you do not know the difference exactly. I'm from Germany.
@Bryce Here I also have a video of the official world record. Look closely at what the organizer has on the scoreboard (between 52-57 seconds). Can not imagine that 82,5 (82.5 englisch) million citizens are wrong. ruclips.net/video/cRXafcIwvkY/видео.html
Wow so many people don’t believe how fast these little riggers can go. Most of these people never owned or built an rc boat that goes over 50mph lmao. That thing is crazy. Next time show us the GPS so all the crybabies can calm down
There are no GPS measurements from this rigger (also no space in the fuselage). This rigger was built exclusively for SAW events and there a distance of 100 m is measured over 2 light barriers. It's even more accurate than GPS. But there are videos on my channel where you can see your world record runs with an average speed of over 100 m. An official rating means that the boat has to drive 2x 100 m in quick succession in the opposite direction. I totally agree with you that for most it is hard to believe.
ruclips.net/video/DvTpkAt3tnE/видео.html And here is an older video with the still current world record. At the end you can also see the display where the light barrier is used for the evaluation.
Melde dich bei rc-rennboote.de an, habe einen Link dazu im Kanal-Photo eingefügt. Dort gibt es einige Bauberichte mit Setup Angaben oder du eröffnest einfach einen Thread und fragt danach. Auch hier auf meinem Kanal gibt es einen 4S Rigger von mir mit Setup, der läuft allerdings 175 km/h und ist damals für SAW Veranstaltungen genutzt worden.
Nicht wundern wenn es etwas dauert bis eure Kommentare Online gezeigt werden. Bei diesem Video werden die erst nach Überprüfung zugelassen, hat schon als mal diverse Ausdrücke gegeben wo unter der Gürtellinie waren.
A similar boat would be something like a hydroplane, such as the old 90's Mr Pringles RC boat made by MRP boats (closed now), which could turn an impressive speed even before the era of brushless motors came about. I don't know if anyone else makes it now, or bought the IP for it, but I guess there still a few of them floating around out there … perhaps even literally. 😁 At around 150 kph, it became a plane though. Which was "Less than optimal", according to my brother. 😂
Gerade erst gefunden, das Video. Warum zur Hölle lässt Du dich auf dumme Diskussionen mit Vollpfosten ein? Hast Du doch gar nicht nötig. Du weisst, wie schnell das Ding ist und gut.
But here in Germany an official SAW competition takes place once a year in Munich where everything goes right with things. Everyone can participate or watch there.
Jörg even drove almost 333 km / h on the SAW in Munich this year. Unfortunately no back pass again. There were problems with a new software version and the associated fail-safe.
You're all right, the light barrier and GPS measurements are all faulty. The 500 meters of distance where there is a start and end are only taken minutes by the boats. There is nothing more to say about it.
@Paul Schrecengost This statement comes from the Americans as German participants fly to the SAW to America and have shown excellence in their classes. The statement is meant positive!
Are you kidding me ??? That’s insane!! I love the golf clap at the end... classic! Fantastic cideo👍
This was FANTASTIC! Thank you for sharing!
331,706 kph... Bloody hell
They use a "," where we use a "." and where we use a "," they don't use anything.
I had to google it myself.
An alle wo immer so gut schätzen können daheim an ihrem PC. Es wird hier angezweifelt das der 8S1P Rigger so schnell läuft ( 331 km/h ) siehe die zweite gerade ab 1:46, übrigens sind das ca. 500 m wo der Rigger da zurücklegt. Der Messbereich per Lichtschranke beträgt 100 m, jeweils 200 m dienen zum anfahren und für den Auslauf. Übrigens hält dieser Rigger ja auch den Weltrekord mit 314 km/h Durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit über 2x 100 m in beide Richtungen. Der wird aber anscheinend nicht angezweifelt. 314 km/h sind dann anscheinend in Ordnung aber 331 km/h unmöglich. Ist wohl am besten wenn ich in Zukunft Kommentare komplett deaktiviere.
Extremely impressive, bravo. This is actual engineering at this point, everything is custom built just for this purpose. I admire it so much. I don't understand all the comments, peope are dumb and jealous at the same time. Cheers!
I can't understand it either. Jörg is well-known in the SAW scene, and these people only celebrate him. He has held the absolute world record with his outriggers for tens of years.
Sorry translator
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Kinda wild how low buoyancy it has. It's much like the real life Bluebird K7 or unlimited hydros in the US for instance. They push sooooo much water until they're up on plane. Though I think Jorg has really pushed the limits. It floats about as much as a submarine in surface mode. The fact that its planing surfaces appear to provide very very little lift as well is quite interesting. Plus the sponsons, if I'm reading the lines correctly, will actually provide a measure of aerodynamic downforce probably contributes to how aggressively it digs in if the launch angle is just a tiny bit too low.
All that said, I think the most impressive thing is that physics even allows such a small propeller to still provide thrust at such high rpm!
This video isn't of the 206mph pass.
why are there two people with heart monitor on them?
So there heart can be monitored
So many peeps here commenting that have never seen anything move faster than their family car through road works.
The development is sometimes faster than humans want to admit. Five years ago, nobody would have even thought of 300 km / h.
Jeder wo will kann ja im September nach München kommen und sich das Live anschauen oder auch an dem 5. SAW Wettbewerb mit einen Boot nach Reglement teilnehmen.
Anyone who wants to come to Munich in September and watch the live or participate in the 5th SAW competition with a boat according to regulations.
You need to have your speed system re-calibrated. That boat is no where near 200 mph.
You don't know what you're talking about.
@@michaelregan427Yes
So far there are only 2 people in the world who manage to drive over 300 km/h. Jörg and Arne are a joint project. Everything was self-built, calculated and developed. Take a look at the first video of Jörg with his 8S rigger, there I gave a very precise setup and logs are under "Description".
wow! Gratuliere! Trotz fehlendem Backup run!
Wow!! Nice job.That peak amp draw would be insane.
Says above,set up for 1000 amps 😳
Fastest by what standard? What entity officiated this? What timing system? Statistics?
rc-saw.de/news.php
Crazy fast. Anyone know the model of this boat/Hull?
Self-made by Jörg.
He made his own ESC, batteries too....ding !
Where is the GPS to show the top speed ? i didnt see it
No place for GPS. Official competition and there is measured by light barrier over a distance of 100 m. Here is the homepage with results and max topspeed. rc-saw.de/viewpage.php?page_id=20
Here is a older video with the scoreboard. ruclips.net/video/cRXafcIwvkY/видео.html
@@fast-rc-boats Hello from Australia just got into the RC car hobby noticed that top speed runs are verified by third parties and Guinness world records have you thought about putting in a officially speed run.
@@jozua715 The SAW event in Munich is an official speed competition. The speeds are determined by a light barrier up to 3 places after the decimal point.
Ich schreibe jetzt auch mal in meiner Muttersprache. Es ist schon traurig aber anscheinend wahr dass manche hier nur weil sie es sich nicht vorstellen können teilweise so ein Scheiss schreiben das man es gar nicht genehmigen kann. Tatsache ist dass dieser Rigger das schnellste RC Boot ist wo es nach dem SAW Regelwerk (sowohl in den Staaten wie auch in Deutschland) gibt. Auch wenn es manchmal von der Kameraperspektive nicht danach aussieht. Leider gibt es halt auf der ganzen Welt nur sehr wenige Leute wo das Hobby so intensive betreiben. Diese wissen aber dann auch wer Jörg M. vom Jag`s Team ist und das die werte korrekt ermittelt wurden.
Fast RC Boats alle schreiben englisch außer ich und sie
Es wirkt tatsächlich nicht so schnell. Aber von Booten hab ich keine Ahnung. Kann aber sagen ein kleiner Flieger tief geflogen wirkt deutlich schneller als ein Großer in größere Höhe, das kann täuschen...
The only thing that’s frustrating is that you need a big and calm body of water
It doesn’t appear to be 200mph because it’s tiny. A full size boat moving 200mph would actually “appear” to be going 200. My rc car doesn’t look like it’s going 50, but it is.
actually, I find it to be the other way around, if the boat or car or aircraft is longer, then it appears to pass it length in a longer time and thus appears to be going slower the longer it is.
That doesn't make sense, as something small scale looks like it's going even faster, and to scale it usually is, but that didn't look like it was going 200mph to me.
Ya for sure looks fast as hell, especially at the end of the run.
That acceleration is stuuupid fast.
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how is the water speed record faster than the land speed record?
I dont know. With the RC boats, the absolute record of an official measurement is at an average speed of 314 km / h according to the SAW rules.
Way more power and far less resistance once at speed.
maybe they are smarter than rc cars:) and do things right
Less drag on a hydro like this.
I wanna build one do they flip over easy ??
These guys that post the videos and don’t reply to their subs!
I don't know any "SAW" rigger who turns around.
They are straight line boats.
Hey, as a school project were making rc raceboats, any tips for making an outrigger. we will be making it out of glass fibre so shape wise a lot is possible, my cam skill are reasonably good to. So any tips for ponson shape or anything related to outriggers is welcome, im tryharding for this project and want to kick some ass.
Hello Jeroen, the first thing you have to decide is whether you need a boom for a SAW rigger or which one for an oval rigger. I can only give you the tip to register in a forum, you will certainly be helped there. In Germany there are a lot of model builders in the RC Raceboat Forum.
In America it's Offshore Electrics Forum. (google translator) My english is to bad.
Incidentally, I have not been active for 5 years now and only operate this channel. This year there will probably not be many videos either because all events in Germany are forbidden because of "Corona".
Fast RC Boats il give thosse forums a try. I can speak a little german since im dutch so that wont be a problem. Also whats the difference betweeen a SAW rigger or an oval rigger. And whats a boom?
@@jeroenbeskers3012 Bei einem "SAW" Rigger geht es nur über 100 m gerade aus mit maximaler Geschwindigkeit. Bei einem "Oval" Rigger wird meisten über 5 Minuten rechts herum im oval mit mehreren Riggern gefahren. Dementsprechend sind auch die Schwimmer / Ausleger unterschiedlich von der Geometrie und den Abmessungen. Melde dich bei RC-Raceboots an, da gibt es glaube ich auch ein paar Holländer. Auf jedenfall kann dir dort geholfen werden.
Fast RC Boats danke. For school we need do a staight line race and a slalom race. But were going for the straight line since slalom is at really slow speed so a little turning would be good.il make an account. I can also give you the parts list that we were given if you want
How about motor kv??
Is it 8s???
Engine from Lehner (LMT). In the beginning a 2260 was installed. In this video I think it is a 2265 (custom-made). The "esc" is a self-made device that can handle 1000 A. Accu 8S1P.
ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
Here you can find all information.
@@fast-rc-boats the new castle xlx2 hydra looks like it can handle some big power
@@bdanielcal4608 Jörg, has built his own ESC for this 8S rigger, which can last at least 1000 A. In one of the videos you can see the components. I don't know the new Hydra, so I can't say anything about it.
@@fast-rc-boats I put the hydra in my zipp 33 fe and it definitely ain't anywhere near 1000 around 300 I would say I'm running a tp 1650 kv on 8s 6000 120c packs and it doesn't get over 110.f
I wonder if it has regenerative braking
It does not have a regenerative braking system but the rigger has an engine brake and additional airbrakes on the tail units.
"da hat der prop die blatter abgeworfen".
"The prop has shed it's blades".
do you have that on a gps speed tracker?
All speeds that were not used in official competitions such as "SAW" are determined with GPS. SAW speeds are determined as the average speed over a measuring distance of 100 meters using a light barrier. This procedure is even more precise than a GPS measurement.
Here you can see the German SAW Homepage with the record and topped list.
rc-saw.de/viewpage.php?page_id=20
I don't think my new Atomik Barbwire 2 XL would keep up.
Cars are catching up, yesterday a guy posted 204mph.
208 now!
@@RocketCardragracing James Mcoy 222mph now.
Impossible @ 206 mph. Don't believe it in I've seen riggers run as fast as 125 and it takes a longer stretch be of water to get it flying across the water. So it's impossible to go that fast
There is nothing to discuss about. Everyone knows where in the SAW scene knows what speeds are driven by Arne, Gunnar and Jörg (Jag's team). Moreover, this is all officially measured by photocell over 100 meters. It is also just the pure top speed. The world record is also by Jörg according to SAW regulations with 314 km / h avg. (sorry google translator)
WD - you are dead wrong, since you're on the internet.. do some research.
ruclips.net/video/cRXafcIwvkY/видео.html
It is impossible for those riggers, correct. But that's the only thing you got right. The riggers are working with a fraction of the horsepower of these SAW boats. That's why they are so slow in comparison. The flip side is that they can run at top speed for more than a few seconds, unlike these boats that are pulling hundreds of amps for a very short burst and trying not to smoke themselves in the process.
You think it's impossible because you're ignorant and have a bad attitude.
its hard to read some of dumb comments here- that takes me back when i was in RC fast electrics too- you can hear everything from dumb folks on shore. Better not posted that high tech stuff on youtube:) some still thinks earth is flat :))))
Do you have telemetry/data logging on this boat? The reason I ask is that I'm curious to know what is the maximum motor rpm under load (during a run). You guys have really lead the way for the last couple of years, so well done!
This is still the first video with 285 km / h avg of 2016. Under "more prestige" or show more there is all data about this rigger. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
@@fast-rc-boats 63,900rpm under load that's impressive.
Would like to know prop,motor and batt specs...thinking rpms are 40 to 50k range
Check out the other videos of this 8S1P rigger. In one video I wrote all the data and info under "comments".
The 40 -50k rpm range is not high enough for this boat. I'm running electric - driven outrigger boats for oval - racing - use for years at this rpm level. This boat runs at a significant higher rpm level.
You could hear the difference.
I think the Jörg - Mrkwitschka - outrigger needs around 70k rpm for its maximum speed.
LMT motors offer custom - made versions with a titanium ring around the rotor ( rpm limit 100k ... not only 65k ).
J. Mrkwitschka' s battery is extraordinary powerful for its size.
I never heard how powerful his battery really is. But remembering data from former record attempts... with lower power level on board ... I think his battery is able to bring out 22 or 23 kW peak.
In my opinion... not bad for a battery pack weighing not much more than 1100 gr. 😉.
@@dirkstaudt4341 Hallo Dirk, ich habe ein Video mit sämtlichen Daten und Hardware angaben von Jörg seinem ersten SAW im Jahre 2016 mit diesem Boot. Damals drehte der Motor schon ausbeschläunigt 63900 rpm. Bei kleinen Sprüngen stiegt die Drehzahl auf 70.000 rpm an. Ich habe schon so viele Fragen zu diesem Boot bekommen und das obwohl ich im ersten Video schon alles dazu geschrieben hatte. Leider liest anscheinen heutzutage keiner mehr was. ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
Im laufe der Jahre wurden nur kleiner Änderungen daran vorgenommen.
What's kv for jorg custom 2265/4 I say about 2100 esh to 2200 esh kv
I don't know.
Holy shit !! That thing is fast. Wow!
Why do people in Europe use a comma as a decimal point instead of a full stop?
Read here: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dezimaltrennzeichen
Most of the world uses a comma.
It’s the main reason behind Brexit 🤣. Comma for thousand separator and full stop for a decimal separator, this should be the international standard.
Who do the people in North America, descended largely from European immigrants, use a period instead of a comma..?
Because we are well educated people - and it is the correct use.
@@gertnood Um...FIA Racing DOES NOT use Commas. ANYBODY can add to or start a Wiki page...stop thinking EVERYTHING on Wiki is FACT.
Pretty funny how people spout nonsense. The saw record 15 years ago was 160mph. This is as lagit as it gets.
The old SAW record was also driven by Jörg in the USA. The current one is also owned by Jörg and was driven in Munich 2017 / 315 km/h. Video from 2017: ruclips.net/video/DvTpkAt3tnE/видео.html
I want to get into boats but would need to stop my helicopter addiction::( .looks like awesome machines:)
These are pure SAW boats where only speed is trimmed for 2x 100m. That is very special. I would start with setups where you can drive about 4-5 minutes. that is going to be very fast. The best and easiest way to do this is to use a 2-engine catamaran.
@@fast-rc-boats so with the 2 engine set up ,one can slow to turn the rigg?
Hello how you can get this color?
I do not know. It's not my boat. But looks like neon color.
Dropping some hard names that i cant pronounce. Euro style it seems. 📡👽🇺🇸 cool.
How many Lipo's and kv on the motor are you running?
This is not my rigger. 8S1P / engine LMT 2260/5 spez. (ca. 2000 kv) Setup 2017.
I do not know if the same engine was installed in 2018.
You can read the complete setup with the log files in this video under the video description.
ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
@@fast-rc-boats I can't get mine to go that fast have 8S Lipo and 1600kv brushless with 300A esc but mine is plenty fun! Cheers!
@@ken3137 Jörg the owner of the rigger is also a professional in his class.
The 2000 kv are also load speeds where Lehner states. All other engine manufacturers almost always give only the idling speed, from which you have to deduct 10-15%. The lipos can also be loaded with 100 C. Jörg made a self-made controller with 1000 A for it. Sorry for the bad english, translator.
In addition, the rigger was only built for SAW events. You cannot drive in an oval with it.
Why don`t people understand that the channel they`re watching isn`t the people in the video..
When you think the title of the video says 331706 km/h. 😂
That's okay. In Germany, the metric system applies. Without decimal places 331 km/h to 206 mph.
@@fast-rc-boats That's cool, it's just that in Australia we used full stops. commas just seperate large numbers into chunks. Germany sounds cool though!
There have often been misunderstandings. But normally everyone should know what is meant. Or I have to leave the decimal places.
@Xander de Bruin The metric system uses a comma instead of a dot (Km/h comma ; mph point).
Fast RC Boats no it doesn’t. That’s a European thing to use comas instead of decimal points.
Are u sure it’s not a submarine?
Ya Ya Gratski👍dis iz but veesay da razzle ande dazzle ya ya Gratski👍So Fast iz VeenaShnitzle ya ya🤑❗👍👍
that doesn’t look like 206mph?
80 mile? i dont believe this video title
@@poebemaryn You don't have to believe it, even if it corresponds to the facts.
Ihr müsst das ja nicht glauben, auch wenn es den Tatsachen entspricht. Jeder der sich mit SAW Racing beschäftigt weiss das es stimmt und kann es in den offiziellen Listen nach schlagen.
@@poebemaryn, probably you do not know who are those guys: this is the worldwide elite, everything self built after many years of experience … and speed measurements are official … what you believe, is just yours …
205 mph tops !
Another excellent video thankyou😊👍🌞.. Ive been wanting to try TP Power 4050 2300kv CM motor on 8s lipo getting the correct prop is difficult..
This is a very hot setup. I would only try this in a very light and free running rigger. Your speed will be at least 57000 kv under load (2300 kv -15% / 4,20 under load 3,65 V)
ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
Look at this video too. It is the same Rigger. Below the description you will find all information about the setup (but in german). At that time he ran just under 300 km / h. Meanwhile, the speed was screwed up by new propellers and a slightly modified engine. Jörg hopes at some point to crack the 350 km / h, maybe even in 2019 in Munich on the SAW.
@@fast-rc-boats.. Goodness 😊👍.. Now that put an instant smile on my face😵😊👍
@@fast-rc-boats.. yes definitely.. I liked the seeing the boat smooth out and get into some real speed.
Thankyou i will have to find a stronger rigger also for the TP 2300KV cm motor and the motor is only allowed 15secs at full rpm
@@fast-rc-boats Thankyou. very good information..
Is that motor the 2260/5?
Custom order LMT 2265 / 4 Hi Amp
@@fast-rc-boats you mean a 2260/4? you have 2265/4
@@rickyoni 2265 / 4 Custom made !!!!
I have a 2260/5 which I going to run. Tomorrow morning in mono
@@fast-rc-boats what kv would be 2265/4
What motor and what esc?
Engine from Lehner (LMT). In the beginning a 2260 was installed. In this video I think it is a 2265 (custom-made). The "esc" is a self-made device that can handle 1000 A.
@@fast-rc-boats hello, great boat and congratulations. Are these Lehner motors for sale ? Would a hydra XLX2 pair ok with a Lehner ? thank you
Farking hell ! (1:47) what speed!!!!
Sehr geil 😎
How can buy kit?
Everything completely self-made
I've seen alot of fast boats, but that is the fastest I've ever seen!!
haha 331,706 kph think you may have messed up your calculations a little XD
Oh, now that you write it. It was only 33 km / h.
Fast RC Boats huh?
Mike Lla different countries use commas instead of periods for math, it’s weird I know
Are you doing this in an emergency room?
Big Fan sounds like a lipo charger going in the background.
The beeping noises come from the other boats in the queue.
Pretty quick @ around 1.52, I ran 12 cell hydros 25 yrs ago that were good for 40mph and that pass was stupid fast in comparison
My old rigger with 12 sub/c from 2006:
ruclips.net/video/EM5_iXtagkI/видео.html
Speed: 105 km/h
Runtime: 5 min.
I'm just saying that it looks to me like that's 60 to 90 mph at best. Its definitely not 206 mph or whatever you claim it is. Other than that nice job. It's got so much torque it dives into the water bf it plans out lol
It's weird that this rigger ran 177 mph in 2016 and 2017 195 mph avg. That's why these values are right. Or someone comes again and writes that the measuring system was not calibrated properly. And this for 3 years in a row.
Well that's all fine and dandy but until I see proof then to me it does not look that fast at all. Its definitely fast for sure. Like in the rc cars they will show you the speed. But I just don't see 206 on the water when I watched another boat that was black run o shit it was well over 100 mph and bf he showed its speed I guessed it around 95 and yes I was off but I was closer to guessing at it than this boat and I dont see proof that this boat runs that fast. I'm not trying to be a dick, ass,troll or any of the other slangs. Just want you to know that bc anyone can read something and it get taken the wrong way. You know what I mean? And I respect what you said but until me and I'd say many other people see proof that this boat runs as fast as claimed we not gonna believe it. And if you do show proof then I will gladly type anything in the comment section that you want me to. Thanks for your info. And I will say again that is a sweet boat and it definitely is fast. One question. What is it made of? If you don't want to give that info out I totally respect that.
What in America the "NAMBA" is, is the "RC-SAW" in Germany. Here is a link where all official records can be found. There is also a file with the top speeds. I also think that all American SAW driver Jörg M. from the Jag`s team understands. Each of our SAW competitions takes place in Munich, at which time the "Oktoberfest" takes place. Anyone who does not believe it can come by and watch the spectacle or go for a ride. Then, of course, observe the rules where to comply. In the first video of 2016 you will also find all information about the boat under the video (see more).
rc-saw.de/news.php
ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
I have written all that before. Sorry for the english, translator.
Look at the last 2 runs of the video I posted a link to. It shows the speed. Seeing you wish for proof of how fast this boat is.
ruclips.net/video/kM_2_VAhE3g/видео.html
Woww...very fast...amazing boat
Meanwhile when I was a kid a guy at the track who was well known for fast boats. Came along with a Dumas .67 Skater with duel .67's in it. Painted red with serious business on the side. He cracked the hull on the third pass and the two before it would roll in a turn.
You boat may be fast in the electric world. But, son you need to understand what nitro is.
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If you’re interested let me know.
Yes that thing is pretty fast, but it doesn’t look like a boat at all!
Why does that even matter?
I thought it was 331k km/h
206 "scale" miles per hour maybe
Seems more realistic
Are you bored and just trolling around?
Or are you really as ignorant as your post would lead us to believe?
@@AB-80X His post is serious. The pass in the video is not the 206mph pass. If anyone doesn't know what an RC boat looks like, at 60/100/200mph on the water, check out the other videos of this specific rigger on this channel.
@@AB-80X Skip to to a minute and 44-ish seconds: ruclips.net/video/Fr7D9_V4UZs/видео.html
@@AB-80X Or skip to 2:10, here: ruclips.net/video/2s4z4vW8QR8/видео.html
Has the title been changed or is it something I'm not understanding? 311km/h being 206mph seems totally correct. I also dislike people hating on your English as your obviously a German channel, just having English titles :)
I left out the decimal places in the title. Because it was not understood by some. I almost always write titles in English and are easier to find for the rest of the world. I don't speak English (translator)
Record and topspeedlist from the "German SAW" of all classes.
rc-saw.de/viewpage.php?page_id=20
A lot of human speedometers in the comment section
Unfortunately it has to be a smooth brain sloped head simpleton who makes the first comment.
That didn't look like it was going 200mph to me. I'm not a human speedometer, I'm just saying, and just wondering if it got that fast on other footage that wasn't shown here.
I'm sorry, I've deleted a comment with 13 replies. It was about the correct spelling of the speed. If it is a matter of mine, there was no intention.
The tital still shows km/h
Copy and paste from wiki
"Thrust SSC holds the world land speed record, set on 15 October 1997, when it achieved a speed of 1,228 km/h "
Description
The International Space Station is a space station, or a habitable artificial satellite, in low Earth orbit. Its first component was launched into orbit in 1998, with the first long-term residents arriving in November 2000. It has been inhabited continuously since that date. Wikipedia
Speed on orbit: 7.66 km/s
Orbit height: 408 km
Max speed: 27,600 km/h
Length: 72.8 m (239 ft)
Width: 108.5 m (356 ft)
@@brycering5989 If it comes from the English (Trust UK) then point instead of comma.
In German-speaking countries, the metric system always uses a comma for km / h. Here's an excerpt from Wiki.
de.wikibooks.org/wiki/PSA_Mathematik/_Grundrechenarten#Das_Komma_bei_Dezimalzahlen See Definition Point 1.5 Das Komma bei Dezimalstellen (für den Deutsch sprachigen Raum). This is a very confusing topic if you do not know the difference exactly. I'm from Germany.
@Bryce Here I also have a video of the official world record. Look closely at what the organizer has on the scoreboard (between 52-57 seconds). Can not imagine that 82,5 (82.5 englisch) million citizens are wrong. ruclips.net/video/cRXafcIwvkY/видео.html
thats a bullet on water :)
sup verified
I would love to see a good video of your boat
Videos of my boats are: MHZ Mystic 114 / Hydroplane Manta Ray / 4S Hydro (Rigger self made) / HPR 135 / HPR 06 and a few more.
@@fast-rc-boats Hi.. where do i buy this Manta ray hydroproplane
That is not 206 mph
correctly, that is 206.11 mph
And you are basing your stupid comment on what.....please enlighten the world as to your expertise in judging speed.
Thing basically is a rc jet for water damn
High speed submarine :D
Still watching ur videos till today 😄
Holly shit.i thought mine was fast
Where can I buy a boat like that?
I have already answered you under the other video. Such high speed riggers as we drive them are all self-built and not for sale.
Aren't boats supposed to actually float?
A rigger is almost the same as a hydroplane. When starting in the water, with sufficient speed above the water. Sorry for my english (translator).
@@fast-rc-boats Interesting. Incredible what electric boats can do. Well done!!!
Only float boats floats . Speedboat speeds . And hydro. Do inbetween fly and float
It didn`t sink did it?
So it floats..
Wow so many people don’t believe how fast these little riggers can go. Most of these people never owned or built an rc boat that goes over 50mph lmao. That thing is crazy. Next time show us the GPS so all the crybabies can calm down
There are no GPS measurements from this rigger (also no space in the fuselage). This rigger was built exclusively for SAW events and there a distance of 100 m is measured over 2 light barriers. It's even more accurate than GPS. But there are videos on my channel where you can see your world record runs with an average speed of over 100 m. An official rating means that the boat has to drive 2x 100 m in quick succession in the opposite direction. I totally agree with you that for most it is hard to believe.
ruclips.net/video/DvTpkAt3tnE/видео.html And here is an older video with the still current world record. At the end you can also see the display where the light barrier is used for the evaluation.
The general population does not know of the inverse square law. Physics becomes more kind the smaller and lighter the object or living thing is.
Kann jemand ein Setup empfehlen womit man 150kmh schafft?
Lg
Melde dich bei rc-rennboote.de an, habe einen Link dazu im Kanal-Photo eingefügt. Dort gibt es einige Bauberichte mit Setup Angaben oder du eröffnest einfach einen Thread und fragt danach. Auch hier auf meinem Kanal gibt es einen 4S Rigger von mir mit Setup, der läuft allerdings 175 km/h und ist damals für SAW Veranstaltungen genutzt worden.
@Fast RC Boats: All diese Neider von Übersee... wie jämmerlich!!! Wie sie dauernd versuchen zu provozieren. Einfach weiter Videos posten BITTE!!!
looks like a boat from the game Hydro Thunder!
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Nicht wundern wenn es etwas dauert bis eure Kommentare Online gezeigt werden. Bei diesem Video werden die erst nach Überprüfung zugelassen, hat schon als mal diverse Ausdrücke gegeben wo unter der Gürtellinie waren.
That was awesome.
That thing really gets 👍
Didn't look that fast. BS
Everything that sounds quiet and looks slow is usually fast.
@@fast-rc-boats My golf cart is quiet, and does look slow because it is. Its not fast at all, maybe 23 mph.
Gordo m it’ll probably be in the Guinness book of world records
Fastest submarine
Kinda what I was thinking. I think to be an official boat there needs to be a certain percentage above the water line
"fastest rc boat in the world"
Proceeds to go supersonic in km/h
They use a "," where we use a "." and where we use a "," they don't use anything.
I had to google it myself.
were can I purchase a boat like that
There is no such a rigger to buy. The is completely homemade.
You can't
Walmart.
A similar boat would be something like a hydroplane, such as the old 90's Mr Pringles RC boat made by MRP boats (closed now), which could turn an impressive speed even before the era of brushless motors came about. I don't know if anyone else makes it now, or bought the IP for it, but I guess there still a few of them floating around out there … perhaps even literally. 😁
At around 150 kph, it became a plane though.
Which was "Less than optimal", according to my brother. 😂
@@GRMMFE 😂🤣🍻
Gerade erst gefunden, das Video. Warum zur Hölle lässt Du dich auf dumme Diskussionen mit Vollpfosten ein? Hast Du doch gar nicht nötig. Du weisst, wie schnell das Ding ist und gut.
HOLY MARY AND JOSEPH THAT THING IS FA$$$T
331 km?.......fairy tale for little children
Look at the best times in American forums where the topic "SAW" is treated. And then ask for the crazy Germans ;-)
This in every way is 200mph. Go to a drag track and watch cars. The fact people can’t comprehend how fast this boat is makes me laugh.
Hier sieht man den offiziellen Weltrekord mit 315 km/h wo Jörg im Jahr 2017 gefahren ist.
ruclips.net/video/DvTpkAt3tnE/видео.html
I DON'T THINK SO!
But here in Germany an official SAW competition takes place once a year in Munich where everything goes right with things. Everyone can participate or watch there.
Please don't think so much. It might make your head hurt.
You should consider joining the Torpedo Business
Is it a submarine or what???? 🤣🤣🤣
This is not 300km/h i don't think so
Jörg even drove almost 333 km / h on the SAW in Munich this year. Unfortunately no back pass again. There were problems with a new software version and the associated fail-safe.
Looked like about 100km/hr max
lolz, really
Ne Digga das deutlich schneller
watch other videos about RC boats going at 150km/h or so with installed GPS and don't say bullshit again
206 MPH my arse
Maybe scale MPH
Are you kidding me you idiot?
Yike
Yeah...imagine a car or bike on other side of water...200mph would have deff looked way different!
You're all right, the light barrier and GPS measurements are all faulty. The 500 meters of distance where there is a start and end are only taken minutes by the boats.
There is nothing more to say about it.
Fast RC Boats then don’t claim “worlds fastest rc boat” before confirmation that everything is working right
Dats gud ya!
Look at the best times in American forums where the topic "SAW" is treated. And then ask for the crazy Germans.
@Paul Schrecengost This statement comes from the Americans as German participants fly to the SAW to America and have shown excellence in their classes. The statement is meant positive!
Looks like a super-soaker torpedo.
Congratulations! Awsome work.