Batu Kutelia - State Capture of Georgia and its Political Institutions by Russia is Nearly Complete.

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • Batu Kutelia has over a decade of experience in international relations, and currently serves as a Senior Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. He is a former Ambassador to the USA and former Head of Georgia’s Foreign Intelligence Service. He is a member of the board at the Atlantic Council of Georgia and Professor at the Alte University, Tbilisi, Georgia. He was co-author and TV co-host of the Foreign Affairs talk show at the Mtavari TV in 2020-2021. He is frequent contributor to the major national and international TV, printed and online media on the issues of national and international security, Russian hybrid warfare, defense and security sector reform and policies.
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Комментарии • 177

  • @daveslater
    @daveslater 18 дней назад +8

    No one seems to care more about a positive Ukraine outcome than President Zelenskyy, Jens Stoltenbuerg and your cadre of passionate guests. Wake up everyone of us!

  • @phillee2814
    @phillee2814 18 дней назад +14

    Great guest, and bonus marks for citing Sir Isaac Newton in pointing out that force needs to be countered by an equal force just to remain stationary, and a greater force to push it back.

  • @junj0u
    @junj0u 18 дней назад +26

    Thank you for bringing people’s awareness to this. Trying to convince my father to understand the destructive ambitions of Russia…

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      You mean the destructive ambitions of the USSA. Their second coup attempt in Georgia unlike the first will fail. Thanks to the people of Georgia waking up.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 18 дней назад

      yep, so many westners have no concept of the steady-state grinding machine that Ru/ussr always was. Basic anthro, sociology can inform on this, if ppl need deep dives i guess! But it's obvious to any student of history!

  • @DarkestAlice
    @DarkestAlice 13 дней назад +2

    Thank you, Jonathan and Batu Kutelia, for this very engaging conversation. I am thankful to Jonathan for drawing the strings together. We need to be very clear about the interconnections of the current conflicts and about who is pulling those strings. Silicon Curtain contributes to lifting the veil of darkness. Thanks!
    🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

  • @morgan9hough
    @morgan9hough 18 дней назад +20

    So important to highlight the other countries in which Russia is undermining their democratic institutions

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      That is the US undermining democracy in countries all along Russia and China's borders. Ukraine and Georgia are just 2 of them. Add Kazakhstan, Armenia, Myanmar, Thailand, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Iran, etc etc

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 18 дней назад +1

      @@aachoocrony5754 If the US or any of the Western allies were genocidal, as Muscovia is, the argument you are trying to make might have some merit.
      But as it is only the Muscovian empire which practices genocide (at least in Europe - the CCP must answer for Asia and other nations for Africa), the argument you seem to make fails utterly to have merit.
      🇺🇦Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇬🇧

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      @@phillee2814 'some merit'? Read again and remember the list of countries. No one is fooled except people like you. The US is responsible for most genocides across the world, and that includes the current one in Ukraine. So in response as the proxy wars ramp up, you might have to fight against Mexicans armed w (superior) Russians and Chinese equipment. It's 50/50 at this point. Congratulations.

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      @@phillee2814 the vast majority of Africa prefer the Chinese to the US. The same goes for Asia. The ones aligned (forcibly) w the US have a good chance of turning into another proxy, like Ukraine, which means it will be destroyed faster than Ukraine is being, because it is a real war, not an smo. And yes, that most likely means your front yard is game and turned into Gaza. Your hypocrisy doesn't fool a single country, not even our allies.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 18 дней назад +1

      @@phillee2814 um, yes, but u left out the bulk of what any counter to that is, which is that the US supports clearly & only democratic free movements, human rights, etc in any country that is open to it. It's basic sociology, ain't complicated actually.

  • @alex990ism
    @alex990ism 18 дней назад +7

    very good interview, great guest, very straightforward and to the point with no bs

  • @sweetlord3672
    @sweetlord3672 18 дней назад +18

    They very nearly did this in poland. A lot of information is now surfacing about various connections between PiS (the recently defeated anti EU government) and various Russian services. The journalist to speak to is Tomasz Piątek (also to be found and on tube). the same playbook as Orban.
    In fact, all the eurosceptic parties in the EU have Russian connections

    • @PandemoniumMeltDown
      @PandemoniumMeltDown 18 дней назад +3

      Enemies of the state(s).

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 18 дней назад +4

      They very nearly did this in America. A lot of information is now surfacing about various connections between GOP and various Russian services.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 18 дней назад +6

      @@DSAK55 that's right! i'm an american of centrist orientation for my whole life until now that i'm becoming more liberal, and i was a student of international politics long ago. Ru is clearly influential in american conservative circles in the most insidious and dangerous ways. The connections were very clear starting ten years ago.

    • @dubbelhenke854
      @dubbelhenke854 17 дней назад

      ​@@DSAK55It's truly scary. Proven bribery to EU politicians, interference in American politics etc. 25% of the recent Russian budget is secret. Small wonder.....😢

    • @sweetlord3672
      @sweetlord3672 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@DSAK55turns out Clarence Thomas like to holiday in Russia, too

  • @normandduern2413
    @normandduern2413 18 дней назад +10

    Very informative exposition of a very under-reported subject.

  • @Joe44944
    @Joe44944 18 дней назад +4

    Great guest as always!
    Thanks.

  • @robm.4512
    @robm.4512 17 дней назад +2

    This was possibly the best and most clearly stated exposition I’ve heard of Russian authoritarian methodology for the overthrow of nations.
    I find your “light touch” approach, that lets your guests speak fully, whilst keeping the conversation moving forward when necessary, very engaging.
    Thank you for presenting these pieces, they’re so important to keeping the world informed and cutting through the dross that floods the media spaces.
    Cheers, R. 😎👍🍻

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  17 дней назад +1

      👍👍👍 our naivety in letting Russia get away with it is shocking.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand 17 дней назад +1

    Excellent guest. I love his reference to Wolland's (Stalin's?) rather puzzling remark from the Master and Margarita. But more importantly he is absolutely spot on on about defeating Putin and the West's naivity.

  • @nadenek
    @nadenek 17 дней назад +1

    Thank you Jonathon for finding another great guest to interview.

  • @dsnewby
    @dsnewby 10 дней назад +1

    As always fantastic guest & talk. I‘m astonished about the frequency that you produce your content with. Thank you 🙏

  • @5ty717
    @5ty717 17 дней назад

    As usual… and despite such a wide variety of talkers (this chap is so eloquent but would run the relay alone if he could) EXCELLENT. You are the -or one of the - greatest hosts. Thx Jon.

  • @ibeetellingya5683
    @ibeetellingya5683 18 дней назад +4

    Heck, it's nearly complete in America. We are all Georgians.

    • @dubsar
      @dubsar 18 дней назад +1

      From time to time people seem to forget that life is preferable to death. Millions are enlisted in useless wars and the gene pool is cleaned from self-destructive tendencies. It happened 90 years ago.
      Humans are still in the process of self-taming, and the process of pruning a few branches is ongoing. Give humans 140 more years.

  • @johncromwell2529
    @johncromwell2529 18 дней назад +6

    Thx for great interviews

  • @agustinussiahaan6669
    @agustinussiahaan6669 18 дней назад

    Thank you, Jonathan.
    Good conversation and information.
    Support from Indonesia.

  • @Curtis-ev3tz
    @Curtis-ev3tz 18 дней назад +3

    Very conscience evaluation, can't argue a single point!

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      Lol. Try substituting Russia with the USSA and you are very near the truth. Yes, we're the baddies, not the Russians.

  • @andrewthomson137
    @andrewthomson137 16 дней назад

    You always come up with important geopolitecs, Thanks.

  • @djparn007
    @djparn007 18 дней назад +3

    Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 18 дней назад

      Salva what? Does Ukraine look like it's thriving today?

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 18 дней назад

      @@aachoocrony5754 it's doing better than Russia, because Putin is a murderer and a coward.

  • @user-kw2vk2wu8t
    @user-kw2vk2wu8t 18 дней назад +2

    Great, thanks!

  • @Silvius.2
    @Silvius.2 18 дней назад +4

    Russian not need occupies georgia militarily!
    Like belarus its not needed!
    Letting georgian thinking still be free🙉🙈!

  • @martinwatts3796
    @martinwatts3796 6 дней назад

    Good guest, and I know for a fact he speaks all the truth. I live in Tbilisi.....

  • @cg986
    @cg986 18 дней назад +2

    Amazing

  • @paulchambers3142
    @paulchambers3142 17 дней назад +1

    Very good guest covering a subject which has dropped out of the news.
    Russia will be defeated and will be reined in as far as other neighbours are concerned.

  • @shodan6401
    @shodan6401 18 дней назад +2

    "...it is impossible for Russia to remain in its current state... so we should not be afraid if Russia further de-colonizes"
    NOBODY is talking about this - we don't need just a victory for Ukraine, we need the complete defeat of Russia and the dissolution of its colonized territories.
    Siberia, Mongolia, Yakutz (don't @ me for spelling, that's not the point), etc. ALL of these territories are completely different cultural regions that are currently exploited by Russia for the profits of their resources to be sent to Moscow and they do not determine their own destiny.
    What we currently call Russia needs to be free from the dominance of Moscow and become independent states. No different than the breakup of the Austrio-Hungarian Empire.
    But no one in the West can even imagine this reality, let alone acknowledge its necessity. Russia breeds imperialists.
    The breakup of Russia is going to be inescapable - if this is not a goal, if this outcome is delayed after the Ukraine victory and the fall of Putin, then a full scale WWIII in Europe will be waiting for us in the future.
    Just like WWII was waiting for us after WWI.

  • @BogdanTestsSoftware
    @BogdanTestsSoftware 18 дней назад +1

    In our current shock ridden world, the situation in Georgia is not shocking enough to generate enough clicks, hearts & minds to generate revenue for corporate media

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 17 дней назад

    Very helpful man. Thank you

  • @ikeshel
    @ikeshel 18 дней назад +4

    Thanks!

  • @davidgab4448
    @davidgab4448 17 дней назад +1

    Can we please have an interview with LazerPig? 😊

  • @myroslavabasladynsky4937
    @myroslavabasladynsky4937 16 дней назад

    Western democracies have been too slow to understand the threat that countries like Russia pose to their stability. Your guest understands the techniques used - most importantly, the insidious nature of Russian disinformation.

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 17 дней назад +1

    I think Ukraine can teach us all about courage

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    Wouldn't want to just get along and everyone have a good time

  • @Nenad-qz7zo
    @Nenad-qz7zo 22 часа назад

    A new democratic development as result of Russia- Ukraine war
    Through various programs, a new management class of the Russian Federation is being formed from the participants of the special military operation. Through the Time of Heroes program alone, 40 thousand military personnel have already entered the echelons of power, and 530 thousand SVO participants have been registered. They and their family members are provided with various benefits, free training in management, education, etc. About 90 thousand participants of the special military operation have already become part of government structures at the federal level.

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton 16 дней назад +1

    👍👍👍

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 17 дней назад

    Everyone stopped talking about Georgia. What happened with the protests and the Russian law?

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    When will Russia realise that if they would go away no-one will miss them

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    All these people live in the neighbourhood and it's time to live in the world

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад +1

    Thanks a lot Russia and China as we live in the world

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    Stop owning something that you cannot control

  • @pcopeland15
    @pcopeland15 18 дней назад

    I have a question: Do political parties even exist in an age of social media? Political parties assume a program and platform. To contrast democracy with autocracy the democracies need to function in a recognizably traditional fashion. Does that still hold true? I saw all the protestors in the street in Tblisi. What is their organizational structure?

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 18 дней назад

      Excellent point, and excellent rhetorical question.

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 17 дней назад +1

      @@susieroberts8175 Self determination does exist however. I just think we and our parties are highly influenced by headlines and fleeting attention.

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    Nobody is listening so good luck with getting justice and a peaceful life

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 18 дней назад +1

      I'm listening, and I am part of a network.

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 17 дней назад

    Please forgive our lack of help when you were invaded

  • @halporter9
    @halporter9 17 дней назад

    Election in the fall?

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    Let's not forget Ukraine supplied 40 per cent of GDP for the Soviet Union and that's 40 million supplying almost half for 140 million and who keeps doing that

  • @oldernu1250
    @oldernu1250 18 дней назад

    Men with guns are not often open to polite discourse. Western influence? People agree to be serfs or not.

  • @mat3714
    @mat3714 18 дней назад

    Algorithm

  • @ja1756
    @ja1756 15 дней назад

    Is the guest a brother of the Itv Gay guy on Father Ted and The Eurovision and lots of other own shows Can't remember his name but don't they look alike . Ah Father Doogle or Graham Norton 😄😊🫡

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад +1

    Get over your petty problems and realise Mother Nature Rules and whoever you are you are tiny and insignificant

    • @mvjh2277
      @mvjh2277 18 дней назад +2

      We are stewards of our Mother Earth.

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l 18 дней назад

    Not great english there

  • @betterdonotanswer
    @betterdonotanswer 18 дней назад +1

    26:30 Believing that Ukraine already escaped the fate of Georgia is a dangerous illusion or delusion. Ukraine remains the same captured state even now, during the Muscovite invasion. Zelensky himself and every single person in his administration all worked for Yanukovich, ousted president who fled to Muscovy in 2014. General Syrsky, the CGS of Ukraine, is a Muscovite officer infiltrated into ZSU back in 1990s.

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 18 дней назад +1

      Try harder. Between 2010 and 2014 Zelenskyy was acting in and producing films. Zelenskyy claims Yanukovych offered him money in exchange for control over content, but this was refused. So please tell us how this is working for Yanukovych?

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  18 дней назад +1

      Come on - if this was the case, they would not be fighting the war - they would have fled to Moscow along with the other puppets and agents?

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer 18 дней назад

      Q: Try harder... So please...
      A: The Muscovites and intellectually related criters are not allowed to ask, beg or plead without permission.

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer 18 дней назад

      Q: Zelenskyy was acting in and producing films...
      A: Zelensky was producing trash Ukrainophobic movies financed from the Muscovite budget directly, still aired in Muscovy. During the election of 2004 his trash Ukrainophobic comedy show campaigned for Yanukovich under the slogan «Youth for Yanukovich».

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer 18 дней назад

      Q: Zelenskyy claims...
      A: Zelensky lies.

  • @V_Litty
    @V_Litty 18 дней назад +1

    @69thSniffingBrigade Help99 Campaign when??