Obsessive DM Forces Pregnancy On Player, Backfires Horribly...

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @m0nkEz
    @m0nkEz 8 месяцев назад +3642

    "Pregnant by her ghost ancestors"
    What in the sweet home alabama?

    • @conndor2753
      @conndor2753 8 месяцев назад +77

      Mary from the Bible says "Hello" lol

    • @maggythemagician770
      @maggythemagician770 8 месяцев назад +64

      yeah no wtf? what in the second coming of crist?

    • @siravyaverageyoutuber5802
      @siravyaverageyoutuber5802 8 месяцев назад +31

      "Pregnant by her ghost ancestors"
      What in the sweet home alabama?

    • @SNOW_THE_WOLF
      @SNOW_THE_WOLF 7 месяцев назад

      Lmao @@conndor2753

    • @Cheyne_TetraMFG
      @Cheyne_TetraMFG 7 месяцев назад +13

      More like “Growing Up Hapsberg”

  • @andrex1456
    @andrex1456 5 месяцев назад +477

    “Is this normal for a DM” girl that aint normal for a person 😭

    • @ozmage
      @ozmage Месяц назад +10

      DMs aren't people (I'm a DM)

    • @do3807
      @do3807 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@ozmagereal (same)

    • @thatgamingshorts9306
      @thatgamingshorts9306 13 дней назад +2

      Yeah there like aliens (me too)

    • @Kal-ug2fz
      @Kal-ug2fz 2 дня назад

      @@ozmage 1,000% agree (I have never played as a player)

  • @medicaoctavia8002
    @medicaoctavia8002 8 месяцев назад +915

    He made the character miscarry… THEN PUNISHED HER!? That is monstrous.

    • @MoonMoverGaming
      @MoonMoverGaming 5 месяцев назад +65

      Genuine serial killer behavior.

    • @repulser93
      @repulser93 5 месяцев назад +5

      Getting Dakari-King Mykon flashbacks here.

    • @goaway3741
      @goaway3741 3 месяца назад +13

      that some berserk level of cruel

    • @righteousrawb7225
      @righteousrawb7225 2 месяца назад

      Lessons needed to be learned

    • @medicaoctavia8002
      @medicaoctavia8002 2 месяца назад +7

      @@righteousrawb7225 miscarriage is not something that can be perfectly avoided in the real world. What lesson? That a horrible accident of health or genetics is the fault of the person carrying the child?

  • @zem7127
    @zem7127 8 месяцев назад +2333

    Crabby, they said she got pregnant by the ghost of her ancestors. That's not incest, that's ancest.

  • @Eris_dnd
    @Eris_dnd 8 месяцев назад +5137

    My partner sent me this and I was surprised it made it here. I’m the Eris in this story (fake name, obviously). It happened over a year and a half, and I adored the other players. I’ve seen a few comments underneath asking why my partner didn’t defend me- it’s because I defended myself. Any time a woman joke came up, I’d fight the NPCs for my own honour. I confronted the DM as well after all of this with confirmation I wasn’t being crazy. I am on the spectrum and I’m often told I overreact, so I wanted to handle this delicately otherwise I could have lost the friends I made during the shit show :) it’s nice to see everyone being so kind about it though

    • @pippo17173
      @pippo17173 8 месяцев назад +402

      I really hope after this, you at least put some distance on this dm because he did tell you straight up what he thinks and knows what he is trying to do on you.

    • @Eris_dnd
      @Eris_dnd 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@pippo17173 I confronted him and he is no longer welcome in the group I play with. He also does not talk to me or my boyfriend. We work together and I told him I’d file a grievance against him if he approached me again as he tried to bring this into reality/the work place once already :)

    • @jeffreybogard2713
      @jeffreybogard2713 8 месяцев назад +233

      I'm glad you got out of that situation, because this dude is creepy as hell.

    • @ChibiZamasu
      @ChibiZamasu 8 месяцев назад +142

      Hope you're doing well. Nobody should ever have that bad of a DM.

    • @Robert.R.83
      @Robert.R.83 8 месяцев назад

      This dm is a psycho..

  • @Klaital1
    @Klaital1 8 месяцев назад +558

    Wait a minute, how did Eris' character, who according to the DM was no longer able to use her druidic magic, drown her husband with druidic magic?

    • @nicoleta8964
      @nicoleta8964 8 месяцев назад +117

      Druidic magic is DnD slang for water boarding.

    • @adair8597
      @adair8597 5 месяцев назад +7

      Special skill apparently made for that 😂

    • @LimePopsicle6Pack
      @LimePopsicle6Pack 2 месяца назад +9

      The tidal wave spells were a metaphor for the DM’s bitter tears after his forced pregnancy didn’t work

    • @snatched.377
      @snatched.377 28 дней назад

      it’s not real so they got the details wrong

  • @darkmark138
    @darkmark138 8 месяцев назад +1022

    And i thought i was an Ahole DM when i made the bard role on impregnation when he kept sleeping with every NPC with a pulse (and some things without a pulse}. At the end all his baby mommas found him and started wanting child support.

    • @haveljohnson3799
      @haveljohnson3799 8 месяцев назад

      Our DM made our brothel sleeping wizard roll for STDs lmfao.
      He got polio..?

    • @elliciencias2197
      @elliciencias2197 8 месяцев назад +113

      Lmao

    • @Jvegas2281
      @Jvegas2281 8 месяцев назад

      Nah man. If he wants to bone that much, he has to deal with the possible consequences.

    • @Brunavargen
      @Brunavargen 8 месяцев назад +209

      My fellow DM, that is just part of the official mechanic in Pendragon (which, to be fair, is a game about playing as dynasties) 😂 I have to tell players to be damn clear if a romantic encounter does NOT risk pregnancy, otherwise the game litterally asumes that there could be a new bastard next year 😆

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 8 месяцев назад +213

      As a DM, usually a pretty laid-back one, I don't see anything wrong with what you did. Consequences. Entirely predictable consequences, at that. Would have loved to see the Player's face when they all caught up with him. :)

  • @user-rv8yv4yh9n
    @user-rv8yv4yh9n 8 месяцев назад +2076

    "I can excuse the pregnancy fetish, but I draw the line at spreading rumors."
    "You can excuse the pregnancy fetish?"

    • @crossfire4691
      @crossfire4691 7 месяцев назад +46

      Fetish shaming ain't cool man

    • @ColeCassidyishot
      @ColeCassidyishot 7 месяцев назад

      it is when it's shit like that@@crossfire4691

    • @titovalasques
      @titovalasques 7 месяцев назад +301

      @@crossfire4691It is when you’re trying to force it on everyone else.

    • @theattila567
      @theattila567 7 месяцев назад +33

      ​@@titovalasquesshaming makes somebody with the fetish who doesn't do anything wrong also feel shame. Insulting a bad person for something that itself isn't bad is still bullying somebody else without you realizing it.

    • @titovalasques
      @titovalasques 7 месяцев назад +119

      @@theattila567 Maybe not the shaming for the fetish itself but you should be able to call it out when a fetish is hoisted upon you otherwise anyone can just call it shaming when the other party is not into it.

  • @SpoopySquid
    @SpoopySquid 8 месяцев назад +441

    Ah yes, everyone's favourite genre of D&D horror story: DM's Barely Disguised Fetish

  • @johnprice6271
    @johnprice6271 8 месяцев назад +1509

    This man needs to be put on a watchlist. I'm serious, this behavior is BEYOND normal and if he takes this a step beyond DND, someone is going to get hurt.

    • @CritCrab
      @CritCrab  8 месяцев назад +249

      I 100% agree

    • @sassas1487
      @sassas1487 8 месяцев назад +69

      DND BEYOND REFERENCE???!!!????!!!!????

    • @CalciumEnjoyer
      @CalciumEnjoyer 8 месяцев назад

      @@sassas1487beat me to it

    • @daniellau9177
      @daniellau9177 8 месяцев назад +61

      Why don't you take a seat DM? I'm Chris Hanson from Dateline NBC

    • @rossjohnstone4689
      @rossjohnstone4689 8 месяцев назад +5

      CPPWV with the chat logs.

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 8 месяцев назад +523

    Bruh having a player character's ancestors stare disapprovingly, take their horns, and brand you with a message for every member of your race that says "end on site" is insane 💀

    • @Cobra_Kaii_2002
      @Cobra_Kaii_2002 8 месяцев назад +77

      Bro was pissed that he wasn't allowed to imagine her pregnant

    • @benjaminthibieroz4155
      @benjaminthibieroz4155 3 месяца назад +8

      Yeah, you'd think tens of tribal ancestors would understand how common miscarriages used to be but apparently no...

  • @MusicaKenith
    @MusicaKenith 8 месяцев назад +1331

    To be fair, even if he was a normal DM and it started leaking in the real world, that would be a red flag in a half

    • @BoatsBigDay
      @BoatsBigDay 8 месяцев назад +13

      in a half

    • @WGGplant
      @WGGplant 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@BoatsBigDay in a half

    • @ShatteredAutomaton
      @ShatteredAutomaton 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@WGGplant In a half

    • @not_umbre
      @not_umbre 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@ShatteredAutomaton in a quarter

    • @beegborg3303
      @beegborg3303 8 месяцев назад +14

      Shell

  • @Adraeth
    @Adraeth 8 месяцев назад +1943

    The guy literally tried to play the "See ? I'm so much better than your boyfriend, you should dump him and be with me, clearly I would make you a happy pregnant trad wife !" ...
    He never cared about D&D, he just used it as an excuse to try to break the couple to force her to get with him...

    • @ChaosInfinityProductions
      @ChaosInfinityProductions 8 месяцев назад +166

      I love how every time things did not go his way, the DM would end his campaign due to "burnout". If he had Burnout, he shouldn't be trying to make a new campaign.

    • @evangedeon2194
      @evangedeon2194 8 месяцев назад +152

      "See? I drew your boyfriend's character as the Soyjak and myself as the Chad- that means I win and you love me now! C'mon you gotta follow the damsel code!"

    • @amethyphoenix
      @amethyphoenix 8 месяцев назад +48

      @@ChaosInfinityProductions He tried to cover his own ass. He failed. Multiple times.

    • @murlocmaster6192
      @murlocmaster6192 6 месяцев назад

      tried? nah nah nah this dude dident try, trying would be actully making an enjoyable campaign and getting to know the girl, thats trying, this is just a wet fart doing an odd ass mind dance thinking they are some god tier manipulater when really there just being an asshole

    • @Nockgun
      @Nockgun 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Adraeth burnout is real, he lied about having burnouts

  • @AvatAR42420
    @AvatAR42420 8 месяцев назад +411

    The DM is forcing his fetish fuel into the campaign and is also trying to socially manipulate the group. This is toxic in SO many ways.

  • @parthernnixxart4623
    @parthernnixxart4623 8 месяцев назад +1233

    Pregnancy is a huge fear of mine. If this ever happened in a campaign I would flip the table and light my character sheet on fire.

    • @Thedragonlover95
      @Thedragonlover95 8 месяцев назад +117

      Yeah I wouldn't blame you, I'd call out the DM for these things

    • @Leongon
      @Leongon 8 месяцев назад

      The story is likely fake. Nobody goes through that amount of unwelcome fetishism and still be unsure enough about what's going on to keep playing without establishing boundaries or having to ask the internet if they are the a-hole.

    • @gamespryte
      @gamespryte 8 месяцев назад +67

      As a mum. I get it.

    • @valivali8104
      @valivali8104 8 месяцев назад +116

      I have been pregnant because I wanted to have child, and I don’t wish my pregnancy to anyone who doesn't want to be pregnant. Nor do I want to be forcefully pregnant.

    • @alicenthightower9161
      @alicenthightower9161 8 месяцев назад +113

      i have tokophobia, even the thought of pregnancy or childbirth (especially forced) makes me panic. it's my worst nightmare. i don't want kids thankfully, and i'll hopefully be getting sterilized... (added this just incase someone tries telling me i'll change my mind or that i HAVE to have kids.)

  • @leviHeichou
    @leviHeichou 8 месяцев назад +225

    Sounds to me like the DM tries to force his kink on the players, has a crush on Eris and a sexist view of what a woman should and shouldn't do. All of that in combination makes for a true nightmare.

  • @Tardisntimbits
    @Tardisntimbits 8 месяцев назад +975

    The thing you aren't even addressing, is that the DM is sexist as hell. He hyper fixated on benching her constantly into "female" tasks, making sure she doesn't get to go into combat...it's just a whole other layer of effin' grossness. Blech. The whole thing makes me feel icky as hell.

    • @leonelzubieta8636
      @leonelzubieta8636 7 месяцев назад +8

      In real life makes sense but that was just a game and it shouldn’t apply real life logic

    • @Tardisntimbits
      @Tardisntimbits 7 месяцев назад +143

      @@leonelzubieta8636 Think about the real life implications of it then. He's benching her character, which means she gets to never fight. That's less rp time, and less autonomy to determine her character's actions. It's still hot garbage to do that to a player, game or not.

    • @leonelzubieta8636
      @leonelzubieta8636 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@Tardisntimbits Yep, it’s just a game to have fun, not a biology class

    • @leonelzubieta8636
      @leonelzubieta8636 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@Tardisntimbits The DM did a bad job

    • @Rubatose
      @Rubatose 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@leonelzubieta8636 I'm curious as to why being a sexist "makes sense" in real life? And what the fuck are you talking about biology class for lmao? Are women "biologically" not meant to fight and are just meant to do good domestic woman stuff? Fucking seriously? In your mind women get to be people in an RP game, but in real life they get to be barefoot pregnant domestic servants? What in the actual fuck?

  • @tylerkaeser1974
    @tylerkaeser1974 8 месяцев назад +345

    My monk lost an arm when he was petrified, he was so effing cool after that! BUT my dm was sure to let me know that we could fix the arm if I wanted!

    • @stadnikds
      @stadnikds 8 месяцев назад +35

      I also had a character lose arm in an important plot point, then played for 4-5 sessions with one arm with some cool RP, and then DM gave us a quest reward - one use something that would restore my character's arm, but it was around the point when he accepted himself as he is and refused that

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer 8 месяцев назад +15

      That actually is a fairly easy fix, just ask your local cleric (or artificer if you want something more stylish and multifunctional)

    • @ordi8725
      @ordi8725 8 месяцев назад +17

      I'm playing Pathfinder with friends of mine, and we're exploring Abomination Vaults. We met some ghouls, and they asked for flesh sacrifice. My friend playing swashbuckler immediately gave up his entire left arm and is currently running around with Nero's devil breaker.

    • @sketchstudios345
      @sketchstudios345 4 месяца назад

      Reminds me of my sorcerer who was blinded due to a curse. I really liked it to be honest, the DM wanted it to be reversible but I felt if he just had sight again it'd be kinda lame, so i asked if he could be considered legally blind and here we are still! He uses his walking stick as a spellcasting focus now. Personally i feel like taking away a character's disability is kinda meh, just feels like a boring way to deal with it, we're playing D&D! We can have magical prosthetics, magical wheelchairs, magical hearing aids, magical service animals, magical mobility tools, magical canes for the blind, you name it! Obviously, it's all up to what the players and DM feel like, but personally i just think that finding a new solution is more fun than reversing to what it was before, yk?

  • @battyroses1053
    @battyroses1053 8 месяцев назад +202

    This whole story creeped me out so bad. And not even because of the creepy DM, but because these poor people seemed to think this is normal?! Like, how bad has life been to somebody that they just endure somebody's pregnancy kink and outraged fits when you push back against it?

    • @Weird_Jellyfish
      @Weird_Jellyfish 3 месяца назад +13

      the person who was 'Eris' made a comment saying that she was slightly autistic and was always shamed for overreacting. She also really didn't want to lose her other friends.

    • @thesupergamer5894
      @thesupergamer5894 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@Weird_Jellyfish that's really sad, I hope they have much better friends now that don't force this weird fetish crap on them

  • @handiinu2.077
    @handiinu2.077 8 месяцев назад +120

    I will never understand how people get the self confidence to shove fetish content in their campaign

    • @Docteur_Hex
      @Docteur_Hex 2 месяца назад +2

      Tbh it's something they can do without realising it, horny is the opposite of self concious

  • @jadamiller7485
    @jadamiller7485 8 месяцев назад +279

    Dm: Tries to make player pregnant
    Option: My character takes her dagger from it's sheath. She lefts it high into the air, and within seconds swings it down to stab her stomach, effectively killing the baby, and herself. No god or evil force will ever be a creep and push a baby onto her again.

    • @sethimothy
      @sethimothy 7 месяцев назад +17

      What's the AC and HP of an unborn fetus?

    • @jadamiller7485
      @jadamiller7485 7 месяцев назад +30

      @sethimothy Ah, well you see, It would be around when one realizes they are pregnant. And with the player dead, so is the baby.

    • @diogod2347
      @diogod2347 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@sethimothy HP is definetly a 1 or something.
      But considering they don't do anything, AC could be anywhere from 0 to 999999999999999. And you would have no way to prove or disprove it :)
      Maybe unborn fetuses are the ultimate glass cannons.

    • @DSas2300
      @DSas2300 6 месяцев назад +16

      But then the gods can do to you what they will in the afterlife - and the fetus, I suppose. The only escape from a bad DM is not to play.

    • @greenchilistudioz4537
      @greenchilistudioz4537 4 месяца назад +10

      @@sethimothy I wonder if fetus has any spare loot in his pouch?

  • @SamuraiFoochs
    @SamuraiFoochs 8 месяцев назад +35

    I genuinely worry I'm a terrible DM after pretty much every session, even though my players tell me consistently they have a good time and really appreciate how I take in their input and everything.
    Stories like this reassure me that I am, BARE MINIMUM, above average as a DM. Lord have mercy.

  • @Leetrumm
    @Leetrumm 8 месяцев назад +95

    DM try not to force their kinks into dnd challenge (they cant fathom not doing it)

  • @AkselJade
    @AkselJade 8 месяцев назад +277

    I played a blacksmith using spheres of might (pathfinder) who lost his leg to a rusty bear trap. More like the foot, but he opted to lop off his leg from below the knee down.
    You know what the dm asked? "Are you sure? You don't have to lose the limb. We can figure something out."
    I created automail. Metal magical leg. Ended up losing an arm as well. Turned it into a metal arm with a built in shield.
    It was fantastic.

    • @semajjamel5065
      @semajjamel5065 8 месяцев назад +56

      Guess that’d make you the “Full Metal Black Smith”

    • @AkselJade
      @AkselJade 8 месяцев назад +13

      @semajjamel5065 oh yes, that was the joke. Weirdly enough, my inspiration for the character was Griswold from Diablo 1 and trying to right his wrong in arming the hero turned evil.

    • @KnicKnac
      @KnicKnac 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@AkselJade Great inspiration. Sounds like a great idea and glad you had a DM willing to work with you on that character and story

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer 8 месяцев назад +5

      Sounds like the rabbitfolk artificer in the campaign I'm in. Lost an arm to let the party succeed at a major plot point, but quickly replaced it with what amounted to a Swiss army arm.

    • @JayMaster390
      @JayMaster390 8 месяцев назад +3

      Oh wow, seeings spheres of power/might mentioned in the wild is sick, any other details about your character you wouldn't mind sharing? :>

  • @AhruKhaawe
    @AhruKhaawe 8 месяцев назад +58

    I've had a character forced to be pregnant by a dm before (turns out the DM didn't like my replacement character after his dmpc killed my first character, but that's a separate-ish issue). I basically left the session, crying/enraged, and my wife and I left the group not long after. Wasn't worth it. I'm truly horrified that this type of situation has happened to others. I hope they have a better DM now.

  • @squishybrick
    @squishybrick 8 месяцев назад +155

    As a DM for a very not-DnD rp world, with absolutely no knowledge of DnD itself, even I know that player agency is one of the most sacred aspects of RP that must be respected..
    It's why you must be very delicate with anything that effects it.. Of the 400+ encounterable enemy NPC's in my world, less than 10 of them have anything remotely related to mind-control, or direct mind-altering abilities.
    Also.. As someone whom is quite expert in all things lewd, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, this DM has a kink.. A very distinct and certain kink, and he is very stubbornly trying to push it onto his players.. Specifically pregnancy, and incest.. I've played in, and experienced enough to know it when I see it.

    • @-Infex-
      @-Infex- 8 месяцев назад +17

      Basically, everyone gets the final say for what they are in charge of. The players on their characters' actions, and the DM on literally everything else.
      A DM stealing control from a player is like a player stealing control from the DM

    • @SecuR0M
      @SecuR0M 8 месяцев назад +12

      It's a very stereotypical Magical Realm moment. I try to avoid describing Evard's Black Tentacles for the same reason.
      To add to the agency of the players, I typically plan to work in character's backstories when I DM, so the players can get experience DMing with their backstories for a session or two. This is probably because I enjoy both DMing and playing, but I've never really implemented it properly, unfortunately. General Sam's Dying of Laughter was a really big inspiration in this regard, as was Kikoskia's various sessions, but scheduling kills all games eventually. I also tend to have a pretty lax "mutual storytelling" philosophy of DMing too but I've also never had players that are bad about losing either.
      Workplace TTRPG are a "not even once" line for me tbh too.

    • @Acorn_Anomaly
      @Acorn_Anomaly 8 месяцев назад +10

      Pregnancy kink, absolutely, but I don't think so, for the incest one. I think he kept trying to make their characters' connection familial to specifically (try to) kill any romance between them.

    • @TheDsRequiem
      @TheDsRequiem 7 месяцев назад

      Weird

    • @heatheruhrich6136
      @heatheruhrich6136 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@Acorn_Anomaly She got pregnant from her own ghost ancestors, and even if the DM was trying to...sibling-zone (?) her partner's character, the fact that the DM kept wanting to play the mother figure definitely has some weird incest vibes.

  • @waffler-yz3gw
    @waffler-yz3gw 8 месяцев назад +168

    "you're pregnant"
    "what no i dont wanna be"
    "you are"
    "i belly flop on the ground, make the baby roll a con save"
    havent watched yet but i predict this is how i predict the video to go

    • @marcosruim9292
      @marcosruim9292 3 месяца назад +15

      Boy, how do I wish you were right...

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee Месяц назад

      Tbh, I expected this to go biblical. Hand me some of that „bitter tea“, druid!

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 8 месяцев назад +54

    This DM desperately trying to force his fetish on the players is revolting. He needs to get some therapy and learn about consent.

  • @_frogerino
    @_frogerino 8 месяцев назад +34

    the mental illness thing is in the indefinite madness table. i’ve had to have words with a dm about it before because a character was given a tic from that table and i thought it was in appropriate to roleplay. the dm and party all agreed and we dropped it and moved on.

  • @Lowraith
    @Lowraith 8 месяцев назад +34

    DM has authority over the world and NPCs.
    You have authority over your character.
    Period.

  • @isaacbrewer7064
    @isaacbrewer7064 8 месяцев назад +48

    Got my hand stuck to a sword in Dungeon of the Mad Mage. My DM railroaded me into having to cut my arm off. That DM is not my DM anymore.

    • @flickcentergaming680
      @flickcentergaming680 5 месяцев назад +8

      That could have been a really funny storyline about the sword. That sucks.

  • @DenMotherArkala
    @DenMotherArkala 8 месяцев назад +101

    The DM, Kyle, is literally projecting onto her character what he wants for her: to separate her from the friend group and particularly her partner in order to have control over her. Grotesque.

  • @MelonTartVA
    @MelonTartVA 8 месяцев назад +39

    A player in a campaign I DM wanted to retire his character a while ago to play a new character. We had his character leave while everyone was sleeping.
    I spoke to the player about it to get approval before I finalized it and he gave me the OK.
    IMO, that’s how it should be done. Talk to the player beforehand and if they say no, then accept it and work with the player to figure out something else.
    The ultimate fate of this character is currently unknown and I’m gonna leave it that way for now.

  • @heltaku9397
    @heltaku9397 8 месяцев назад +96

    All of the players in this guy's campaigns need to leave him and get some therapy for abuse victims. This shiz is ridiculous.

  • @vincentcooper489
    @vincentcooper489 8 месяцев назад +245

    An absolutely terrible DM

    • @starofjustice1
      @starofjustice1 8 месяцев назад +20

      One of the most punchable I've heard heard about

    • @vincentcooper489
      @vincentcooper489 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@starofjustice1 Agreed.

    • @LibbyisMid
      @LibbyisMid 8 месяцев назад +5

      I had one like this. Miserable times.

    • @TigerW0lf
      @TigerW0lf 8 месяцев назад +9

      He's not only a bad DM. He's also a physchopath

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@LibbyisMid Me too. As a woman it took me years until I could let myself enjoy playing D&D again.

  • @yrsa7637
    @yrsa7637 8 месяцев назад +42

    Why would people even continue to play with a dm like this? Id voice my frustration and how gross he was being and if he didnt stop, that would be the last time i ever play with that dm/player.

    • @supotter377
      @supotter377 8 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah seriously like I get being conflict averse as I definitely am but COME ON PEOPLE. How do they keep playing with this asshole??

    • @valivali8104
      @valivali8104 8 месяцев назад +19

      Maybe he was good at manipulating? And more experienced players acted like this was normal, so two new players thought it was normal?
      Plus, there are plenty of biases which cause people to stay in toxic relationships, like in this case other players. Studies have also found that if people have to humiliate themselves they tend to like things they tried to get more than if they weren't humiliated.

    • @krazedkoi
      @krazedkoi 8 месяцев назад +6

      Lots of reasons. Crab mentions some of them in the video, but if other elements of the game are genuinely good (the other players, the parts of the game not revolving around DMs issues), then its tolerable-ish.

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 8 месяцев назад +32

    Not related to this exact video... But I do want to thank Critcrab for giving voice to our D&D horror stories. It got me to share my one and only D&D horror story on Reddit, and to share my wish to reclaim my character from the fate that had been thrust upon him. A call that a passing DM granted, giving my character a chance to find a happy ending.
    A DM that I am now dating, because it turns out we're unbelievably compatible on so many levels. So thank you, Critcrab! In a manner of speaking, you helped make that happen. :)

  • @kungfuvoodoo9889
    @kungfuvoodoo9889 8 месяцев назад +28

    I wouldn't have a problem with a DM throwing out the idea of my character developing a mental condition but letting me choose if I feel like it could make for an interesting plot. Forcing it is wrong though, like if the DM wants to dictate what's going on in a character's head they might as well dictate everything the characters do, ergo they might play by themselves.

  • @starfall9612
    @starfall9612 8 месяцев назад +260

    10:37 Fucking WHAT?!
    Fuuuuuck everything about this DM, and I'm sorry to the OP couple.

    • @ColonelMetus
      @ColonelMetus 8 месяцев назад

      The DM has a right to run the game how he wants

    • @andreainghilterra
      @andreainghilterra 8 месяцев назад +66

      ​As long as he makes it enjoyable by his players, in which he failed. So your argument is lacking. ​@@ColonelMetus

    • @StupidBirdChannel
      @StupidBirdChannel 8 месяцев назад +56

      @@ColonelMetus Don't know if you are trolling, but just in case you are not:
      Nope, they don't. You have to understand that beeing a DM is not beeing a god ruling over some players, as a DM you are an entertainer. That can sounds lame but a good DM will make the experience better than any movies or video games ever made.
      If a movie sucks, you don't blame the spectator for not enjoying it. Same here. And making something no players want to be part in IS a no no. Doesn't mean you can't kill characters or whatever. But when you have constantly players telling you something feels wrong about a part of the game, and that part is not build in the main story or a crutial part of the game mechanic... THEN GET RID OF IT!
      No Gms are perfects, you have the right to make mistake, but actually knowing your players boundaries and knows how to run a game with consideration for those limits will actually makes you a better DM. Gosh, it might even show the others how crazy your imagination can be knowing you had to delt with so many stop signs ;)

    • @ColonelMetus
      @ColonelMetus 8 месяцев назад +2

      @StupidBirdChannel if the DM decides the player getting pregnant advances the story then the players shouldn't complain, if they don't like it they should not have made their character a female

    • @polygon2745
      @polygon2745 8 месяцев назад +38

      @@ColonelMetusgr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

  • @brushdogart
    @brushdogart 8 месяцев назад +32

    I have played brother/sister characters with my husband in the past but that was not forced on us by anyone else. In my game group your family tree is considered to be completely under the player's control unless you take the "Unknown Parent" disadvantage.

  • @stephaniejenkins7822
    @stephaniejenkins7822 8 месяцев назад +12

    I will say, I'm completely new to running games myself, and the only time I've ever taken away a player's agency was for a joke I wanted to pull. It was harmless and essentially involved using a mischievous/wild card element of the group(it was already canon by this point that the ranger's swarm are devious little things in the group and the ranger themselves were asleep), so the swarm went to move the one PC that had slept outside into a tent that was recently filled with leaves and other stuff in the forest. Of course I let them wake up at this and everyone had fun trying to get the barbarian(the one who'd been sleeping in the tree) down from where the swarm was holding them.
    Everyone started cackling when I told them all what was happening, even the player whose character was being moved from their tree.
    Not sure if this may have been a bit far or not, but nobody seemed upset and all had a good laugh about it.

  • @phobiawitch835
    @phobiawitch835 8 месяцев назад +29

    Your observation about how the issue was soread out with Skilled DMing between is probably accurate. I had a DM like that. They were skilled at their system, but there were issues that, when they became too close together, made me reflect on the game and realize how awful they were. I still remember how even just One Off situations had people telling me to leave the table, including my best friend who knew nothing of ttrpgs but saw me so distressed. I didn’t listen for MONTHS until I was forced to be away for over a month due to health complications and I realized just how much it had been affecting me. I’m 2.3 years free, and have gone 6 months without flinching at the very sound of that DM’s name.

  • @drewforchic9083
    @drewforchic9083 8 месяцев назад +22

    I mean, there are rules and tables for inflicting madness as a temporary or indefinite debuff in the DMG, as well as long term injuries/disabilities... I just don't think they're used very often. Getting a character or NPC pregnant can also be a neat or useful plot point. I've used all of these mechanics in games I've run, WITH PLAYERS CONSENT. The main issue is the DM just deciding that he's interested in these things and forcing them upon the players, especially when the players express disinterest, or worse, outright discomfort. (As well as whatever personal relationship stuff he seems to be taking out on them)
    Like, you just gotta say "Hey, I had an idea, what if explored ___ happening to your character, and here are some theoretical rules for it, would you be interested?" and be willing to accept no for an answer, and be willing to compromise and adjust with feedback along the way to make sure it works out.

  • @Blackferret66
    @Blackferret66 8 месяцев назад +13

    Wanted to be her bf, but also had a "mothering" fixture, treating then like children? This guy had an odd collection of fetishes. I can only assume that these were relatively isolated incidents that built up over time, which is how they were willing to put up with the DM and stay in the game(s) as long as they did.

  • @Oluman3000
    @Oluman3000 8 месяцев назад +38

    oh. my. crustation. who let this DM DM

  • @Narcomancer1943
    @Narcomancer1943 8 месяцев назад +7

    It’s staggering people continue to play with DMs like this.

  • @jazz9090
    @jazz9090 8 месяцев назад +7

    My character was in a very toxic relationship (in dnd) and that was started due to my excitment of a new campaign and I was making crazy choices. Recently I've been deeply regretting that decision and my DM was so amazing he helped figure out a way to safelt break off the relationship instead of forcing me to go further into it.

  • @tomatazoo
    @tomatazoo 4 месяца назад +7

    "Oops, miscarriage, no more magic for you" bro how delulu can you be

  • @MegaLpso
    @MegaLpso 8 месяцев назад +25

    Am i the only one that feels weird about the boyfriend not defending his girlfriend and tell him to stop putting his weird fetish on her? Hes not at all as bad as the dm and the person in the wrong here but his lack of actually standing up for her is strange.

    • @TheBonkleFox
      @TheBonkleFox 8 месяцев назад +28

      Eris responded. She was already defending herself and calling out the DM's bullshit.

    • @toastgoats7545
      @toastgoats7545 3 месяца назад

      Given that most reddit stories are creative writing projects, I'd suppose it's a pretty big plot hole

  • @Nerobyrne
    @Nerobyrne 8 месяцев назад +19

    "You have ADHD now, you can't go on the adventure."
    Other player:
    "Hey bro wanna go on an adventure?"
    Always works for me at least ^.^

  • @solarchos4352
    @solarchos4352 8 месяцев назад +27

    Oh god, this story ALMOST sounds like a Sierra tale.
    *Eric Cartman voice * - "...Gawd dammit, Kyle!"

  • @fumingbean7931
    @fumingbean7931 8 месяцев назад +31

    oh crab what a title

  • @Headlessgenie
    @Headlessgenie Месяц назад +1

    This reminds me of a highschool dnd club story from the day i and the actual dms were not available. The dms so took over, and the next day on the bus ride to the school, i heard that a player had gotten r***** by a wolf and the sub dm said "roll for pregnant"
    We were obviously for the time teens, but like. Jesus christ
    Everyone grew past it, but it still lingers in my mind that this happened

  • @TriToneTiefling
    @TriToneTiefling 8 месяцев назад +25

    My first experience playing pathfinder was in a group that was WAY too big, filled with new players to TTRPGs, not just Pathfinder, and had me and my girlfriend at the time. The DM VERY CLEARLY didn't like me because I was dating her and she knew he was trying to get with her. She told him no, straight up, but he kept trying. That, and he would make every effort to not only contrive situations to seperate our characters (I literally never got to meet her character in game, and we weren't planning on dating in character anyways), but also would put me, and the few players I was able to travel with suffer in tough fights and also inflicted some kind of curse on my character that was slowly turning them into some sort of frog creature. Needless to say I didn't stay in that campaign past 3 sessions. This was all over 10 years ago and now I just look at it in absolute confusion. Had I more time, I probably could flesh this out into a whole story but my break is over and I've got to go back to work.

    • @franzgriffle6063
      @franzgriffle6063 8 месяцев назад +2

      I’d love more details on this if that’s ok with you.

  • @zacharyfrierson6972
    @zacharyfrierson6972 8 месяцев назад +5

    Nice to finally be part of a CritCrab vid’s comment section not too long after it got uploaded.

  • @rollihd714
    @rollihd714 8 месяцев назад +22

    that ADHD joke hit close to home 💀. 😂😂

  • @notholyfire
    @notholyfire 8 месяцев назад +21

    after 4 minutes that the video has been posted, I have my sincere opinion:
    damn

  • @liamvernon2703
    @liamvernon2703 8 месяцев назад +12

    Love the new editing style in the introduction!

  • @Karak971
    @Karak971 8 месяцев назад +6

    "The dm told me that my character was pregnant by her ghost ancestors" **Kill Bill sirens**

  • @jems15-JEMS15
    @jems15-JEMS15 7 месяцев назад +3

    How can you be forced to do anything in dnd? Just get up and walk away from the weirdo table.

  • @jedi098765
    @jedi098765 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm surprised the DM could do manage so many sessions with only one hand free

  • @Mothman1992
    @Mothman1992 7 месяцев назад +5

    The only way a gm can give a character adhd
    Fey stands on a box, waving for everyone to look at him. "may I have your attention, please?"

  • @vassilus915
    @vassilus915 8 месяцев назад +13

    New editing style? CritCrab rolled a nat 20 on introductions.

  • @matthewkittrell2243
    @matthewkittrell2243 8 месяцев назад +18

    Thats just.... bad. So, so bad

  • @SelfProclaimedGorl
    @SelfProclaimedGorl 8 месяцев назад +11

    Adhd isn’t something you suddenly develop. It’s genetic

  • @YooranKujara
    @YooranKujara 4 месяца назад +5

    Bro really pulled the SpongeBob "Hey, by the way, you're gay!"

  • @Byssa6
    @Byssa6 4 месяца назад +2

    The “your character has ADHD” scene made me think of a video I saw reading a tumblr post that mentioned the table agreed one of the characters had ADHD due to certain rolls. A similar thing happened to another character who constantly failed perception rolls so it was agreed the character needed glasses
    If the player wants a character to have trauma from events, then the character now has trauma. I’m fine with characters suffering mental wounds from the game’s events as long as the player is also okay with it.

  • @thepanelbiter9915
    @thepanelbiter9915 8 месяцев назад +4

    These DM’s are the worst to me. Having a DM who’s obsessed with party killing is whatever. But when you take the character sheets & dice away, you have DM’s like this who are so badly just horny for someone who is taken. They use D&D as a method of creeping on people. It’s just pathetic.

  • @a1k021
    @a1k021 7 месяцев назад +1

    I listened to like most of this dudes videos while working on a fence in our backyard, glad to see new vids to keep my brain busy

  • @firecrakcer001
    @firecrakcer001 8 месяцев назад +3

    Mental health issues should only be controlled by the player or inflicted on the player with their consent. Mental health has been a very fun plot point for a character in the past and a therapuetic way to express similar issues I have in a safe environment. The DM, however, should never say a player cannot do something. At the end of the day, it's the players choice on how effected they are mentally, outside of combat related effects.

  • @daboikeyle1093
    @daboikeyle1093 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hears what they’re calling the DM.
    “My chances of being seen as normal have begun to plummet.”

  • @LasagnaQueen
    @LasagnaQueen 8 месяцев назад +3

    This story is crazy. Its insane how much people will pull up with bullshit to avoid confrontation 💀💀💀

  • @LasagnaQueen
    @LasagnaQueen 8 месяцев назад +1

    We have lots of psychological and physical traumas in our stories with my group, but those are always discussed and there's more often than not a possibility to fix these things.

  • @serathaevistille995
    @serathaevistille995 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'm gonna be honest, as soon as the DM says, 'oh yeah you're pregnant because spirits/ancestors or something.' I'd stand up and go, 'No. That is not what we're doing. This is MY character. You run the game, I'll handle my character, thanks.' Or, I'd leave. Because what the Hell is this story. I'm glad he was ultimately kicked out of the group.

  • @theambientsoundsproject3276
    @theambientsoundsproject3276 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ve had players ditch a character and tell me the character was now “mine,” in which case I just use them as an NPC, but even if the character survives the story I still ask the player what they want for that character’s future at the end of the game.

  • @Klaital1
    @Klaital1 8 месяцев назад +3

    Have to say, that's the first time I have heard of a DM forcing gay status on a pc, usually it's the other way around in these horror stories where the DM gets freaked out by finding out a pc is gay.

  • @Dukeofratsishere
    @Dukeofratsishere 7 месяцев назад +2

    I once had a play get pregnant. I asked them if I could roll a dice for this exact reason. They said yes and they ended up pregnant. I then gave them 2 chances in the game to get ride of the pregnancy with zero in game repercussions. In the end I now have a very funny story and a new npc! These DMs need to talk to their players.

  • @Eggyboiss
    @Eggyboiss 3 месяца назад +3

    My friend tried running a campaign once worst campaign I’ve ever played he keep forcing us into sexual scenarios cause he thought it was funny

  • @haydes1285
    @haydes1285 Месяц назад +1

    And on this episode of “the DMs poorly veiled fetish”…

  • @SleepySlimeOfficial
    @SleepySlimeOfficial 8 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you lord crab for this video

  • @SolarPhight
    @SolarPhight 2 месяца назад +1

    Sounds like the DM was running on Character AI

  • @ZirconiaGacha
    @ZirconiaGacha 8 месяцев назад +5

    11:02 Honestly, if this were done better and not forced on the players, an overprotective deity parent adopting a character for one reason or another would be pretty interesting. But they really ruined the idea here.

    • @rhopalosera9772
      @rhopalosera9772 3 месяца назад

      I made a sort of edgelord warlock character whos patron is an evil goddess that he summond just to be edgy, but she just treats him like a kid, checking in on him, asking him if he’s making friends, and embarrassing him at random whenever he trys to be broody

  • @aurahdz2468
    @aurahdz2468 7 месяцев назад +2

    The amount of creep and sexist DMs is frightening

  • @Meudian
    @Meudian 8 месяцев назад +4

    See, and I'm over here all, "So you have an NPC that is checking out the women walking by me? That's Fine. Because I am pretty sure that I stated at no time that MY CHARACTER was doing anything like that." I'm willing to get confrontational about my characters and what problems they may have or what they are doing. This crap about PTSD, I'd be all, so my character has a +1 STR? That's fantastic. And if they continued, keep adding bonuses. Unless the player is okay with changes made, as a DM you can't make them. It's the player's character, not the DM's character.

  • @Grumblethump
    @Grumblethump 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm baffled that this couple put up with the dude for so long.

  • @seraphinasanil
    @seraphinasanil 8 месяцев назад +4

    Long term consequences like pregnancy, relationships, or mental health developments as consequences are OK. Sometimes, but only with consent. Some rule systems induce it automatically as part of the setting. Such as psychological horror, and in that case consent could be implied in agreeing to the setting in as far is as usual for the setting.
    Beyond that long term consequences should be an offer of a role play opportunity.
    "That action you did, or thing you saw, could have lasting consequences. Would you like to see what they are and decide if you would like to RP that?"
    "Why not?"
    *rolls dice* "oh you have" *looks at table* "Loony Toon Head. Randomly all attention will focus on you for you to make a one line joke."
    "Oh, that sounds fun to play. I will do my best."
    "Alright. Here i a token for a reroll +1d6 for accepting a negative trait. Remember if you roleplay the trait particularly well, you may earn more rerolls."
    I should note I care more about roleplay than rollplay so that is what I encourage. As a player I try to find (or train) DMs who feel the same. Not that I have played since 2016...

  • @whototam5234
    @whototam5234 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm gonna have my first dnd session next week and i'm afraid that i will be a terrible player, but by listening your scary stories i'm learning what to avoid and what to do. Thank you.

  • @willropa4226
    @willropa4226 8 месяцев назад +4

    How much do y'all wanna bet that Kyle would've immediately nuked the game if GF walked in with a male PC? Dude's creepy with a capital everything.

  • @DrewMarinelli
    @DrewMarinelli 4 месяца назад +1

    My wife is actively pregnant with our second child. If I as DM tried to force this on her character, she'd kick the shit outta me! This is SUPER creepy

  • @cthonmon_4781
    @cthonmon_4781 8 месяцев назад +6

    This guy is the reason we need, like, a DM permit.

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac 8 месяцев назад +1

    All these horror stories I've listened to. I'm glad I've run into and made friends with fantastic nerds that check-in together to make sure everyone is comfortable with the status quo. Even my first long running campaign back in college had limits.

  • @isotetra1912
    @isotetra1912 8 месяцев назад +4

    sup, also wtf happened in this story?? why tf did the dm do the freaky ass shit he did?? was he interested in one of the players?? jesus fuck man

    • @elliciencias2197
      @elliciencias2197 8 месяцев назад

      Sup, *Trauma* i dont really know, this guy gets no bitches apparently

  • @sizzlingpp373
    @sizzlingpp373 Месяц назад

    I don't even play D&D but these stories are insane, i like to thank youtube for recommending you in my feed 💗

  • @PandaGirl22223
    @PandaGirl22223 8 месяцев назад +11

    My current dnd character is a new mother. This was decided in dms between me and my dm. Now currently the plot has the BBEG going after the newborn after the party found out his evil plan. BUT ON THE BRIGHT SIDE THE BABY IS IN A BASSET THAT SHOOTS LVL 9 ELDRITCH BLASTS. But at the same time we are in undermountain and the baby is in a nursery in a temple of Bahamut due to the baby being born blessed by Bahumt. ALSO MY CHARACTER IS A BHAALSPAWN SO I DONT KNOW IF BHAALS ASSASSIN'S OR THE BBEG IS AFTER THE BABY. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

    • @coolanimegirls
      @coolanimegirls 8 месяцев назад

      Hmm could it be both are? 🤔

    • @PandaGirl22223
      @PandaGirl22223 8 месяцев назад

      @@coolanimegirls no clue next session is next week AND WE WERE ON BREAK FOR NEARLY A MONTH

  • @pyromaniacwryo
    @pyromaniacwryo 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've never had a DM force a pregnancy on my character before, but I have had one sexualize them in a weird kinda fetishy way. So I was playing a female tiefling who was 26 but very sheltered as she was raised as basically royalty. At one point, she got hit with aging magic from wild magic and he proceeded to describe how she "developed" in a very creepy way. When I pointed out that it didn't even make sense for her body to change like that since she was already an adult, he said he thought she was a teenager... So that creepy description was for a teen 🤮

  • @JackRook
    @JackRook 8 месяцев назад +4

    Sounds railroaded.

    • @genesisplus4325
      @genesisplus4325 8 месяцев назад

      A lot of these horror stories are railroading.

  • @nekorina9011
    @nekorina9011 Месяц назад +1

    the thing is, its not even bad to have a fetish like that (speaking as a woman) - its when you force it onto others that's the problems. And judging by the way he forced traditional feminine roles on her and PUNISHED HER for miscarrying (an experience thats incredibly heartbreaking and traumatizing for plenty of pregnant people, and absolutely not their fault when it happens)?? He certainly seems like one of those people who have very traditional and conservative views when it comes to women and probably uses it as a form of control. all in all, disgusting.

  • @DJ_Bonebraker
    @DJ_Bonebraker 8 месяцев назад +7

    That DM just makes my skin crawl... Maybe it's because of my own personal beliefs that I refuse to compromise even for the sake of games, but the moment he started trying to force pregnancies & other weird stuff on player characters, I'd be gone & trying to put as much physical distance between that DM & myself as possible.
    Like recently, near the beginning of a 2-year long Rifts campaign, since my character was the only human female character in the party, the DM had a male water elemental offer to help the party if my character (who like me, is Sapphic & on the Aro/Ace spectrum) would "do a favor" for him. I had my character not only refuse, but also rant, in character, to the rest of the party about why was it that the Sapphic demisexual be getting all the unwanted attention from dudes, and that the next dude that tried to get into her pants would be taking a fire bolt straight to his manhood. The DM thankfully got the hint, and no other NPCs made any sort of advances towards my character.

    • @brushdogart
      @brushdogart 8 месяцев назад +3

      See, a great GM could take that into account and possibly give you a fun arc with a villain who thinks he's Sune's gift to women. There is nothing more satisfying than taking down a villain who you hate personally as well as professionally.

    • @DJ_Bonebraker
      @DJ_Bonebraker 8 месяцев назад +2

      Oh he managed to do just that, but for the entire party: The "Dragon" to the BBEG of the campaign managed to earn my character & the rest of the party's undying hatred due to his habit of showing up, attacking the party, mind controlling at least one person in the party into doing something terrible (i.e. he successfully mind controlled the dragon hatchling into burninating an entire neighborhood & my character into killing a fellow party member), followed by teleporting away like a little bitch when he was almost dead.
      Interrupting him mid-villain monologue at the beginning of the final battle against him & the BBEG by initiating a spell cast (for a spell that makes you damn near immune to magic, psionics & poison) was one of the personal highlights of the campaign for my character, and the entire party was rather happy when the BBEG prevented him from teleporting away like usual (due to mind controlling him to use as a meat shield against us), allowing us to finally give him his just desserts shortly before we took out the BBEG.

    • @brushdogart
      @brushdogart 8 месяцев назад

      @@DJ_Bonebraker Sounds like great fun!
      My long time friend likes to tell the story of the time she was in a superhero campaign and decided to put teleportation blocking as part of her starting character powers. The GM approved her character and since the chance to use it never came up everyone forgot she had that power. Then the BBEG tried to pull a "talk and teleport" on the party and she said "no". That put a real crimp in the campaign but the GM learned a valuable lesson that day.

  • @JotaKaEse
    @JotaKaEse 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've always wanted to try a DnD session, whether it be in person or online, but I have absolutely no idea how to play and never worked up the courage to search for a group willing to take me (and teach me lol) but when I see these videos, though entertaining, do make me feel kinda fearful these things may happen to me 😭

  • @MegatronYES
    @MegatronYES 8 месяцев назад +4

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