I'm going to go on a long rant here, so bare with me: While getting this guy's speed may not be too difficult, I feel like the pretense of the video undermines the actual efficiency of his runes. Take the Lulu for example. +150 speed on Violent, sure, even I may be able to squeeze out something like this (though it would be a bit difficult starting from a clean slate; 42 from slot 2 and ~22 speed average on every other rune). However, he also has +30k HP, 100% Res, and nearly double the base defense. That is a lot of efficiency that isn't mentioned. I would be hard pressed to scrap a Violent set with 150 speed, but even then, to meet 30k+ HP, I'd probably have to also squeeze out broken sets from random units. And even then, my Lulus bonus defense and resistance would not be as high, especially on Spd/HP/HP), considering all of this guy's 85% res is coming from only substats and not having Res main on 6. I'm willing to bet this Lulu is better (efficiency-wise at least) than 99.99% of SW players, even if it might be slower than some of them. Trying to put a Lulu on runes as good as his will definitely still take quite a good amount of time and most likely tens of thousands of crystals, if not hundreds of thousands of crystals into energy refills. I've put about 30k crystals into energy refreshes farming runes and I'm still hard pressed to make a Lushen that can one shot GB12 golems on 169 total speed without any attack buff (10.5k per card _without_ attack buff). Maybe, I'm a bad player for not having a Lulu with 40k HP, 100res, 250 speed, and 1400 def on Violent Will. But I think it should be stated that this guy isn't on poverty runes either. So saying "oh it's only +150 speed, this Lulu is obtainable" is a bit of an understatement. The Lulu might not be on the fastest set. But by golly would it still take me at least a year or more to scrap up a rune set that's this good. Otherwise everyone would have a Lulu that's at the G3 level. Same goes for the Tetra. Maybe it's not on the fastest swift set, sitting at +161 speed. But look at that HP and Def total. Taking out the flat 100 def from artifact and flat 160 def from slot 3; that's basically ~150% Defense from subs only. No Def% main stat. Speed? Obtainable. Combo'd with everything else to not be squishy like paper? I'll get back to you on that. Anyways, I'm done ranting. I appreciate the info you provide, bagel. But who are these runes obtainable for exactly. People farming for 1 year? 2 years? Motivation for people in the giant bracket that is F3 RTA? Surely I wont have a Lulu this good after farming half a year.
His speed on stats are so easy to get (below 200) but that is the only stat that is low, its normal to be a turn 2 on a bruiser comp, and people overlook his stats on units are all op (g3 runes) not a fighter 1 runes having lower spd below 200.
the thing that you are missing here is that this is a G3 account. if you can grasp the concept, (its not all about speed) you can reach high levels. you will need similar quality for g3(box, drafts and so on). but same set lulu -5k hp can get u g1. c3 is even easier and so on. it just depends on your goal. talking about that tetra, that is +161 on swift! on an unit that has base 110. if you are not buying premium packs, you can get most of those from farming.
I understand all of that. That's why I said that his runes are extremely high efficiency, and that should not be understated enough. His rune quality is G3 level, that's why I pointed out how efficient it is. The point I'm trying to make is that Bagel makes all of this sound "so easily obtainable". As if any C1 player can make a Lulu like this because the runes are "obtainable". He says this many times. As someone who is C1, and fights many other C1 players, I can assure you that none of their Lulus are this good. So by bagel saying "this is super obtainable", is an understatement. When in reality, the reason the monsters are "slow" is because they are efficient in every other stat. This account is using highly efficient runes that are worthy of G3. In the 20k crystals I've spent in the past 2 months refilling only energy to farm runes, I can assure you none of my Swift sets look as high efficiency as that Tetra. One or two swift rune looking that good? Possibly. Likely on slot 1/3/5. But a whole Swift/Will set looking that good? Unlikely.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't get to top 50 by having shitty runes. You are absolutely correct in your assessment and I think Bagel could have made a stronger point about what makes a rune good using his runes as an example. I think a lot of people just sell off runes that don't triple roll speed or maybe crit rate and then just stick a bunch of those +21 spd purple runes on their units, get 1-shot as soon as an enemy vio procs out of a stun once and complain about rng. Yesterday I had a game vs a low ranked guy with 4 LD5s (including Valantis and light monkey) in which I didn't take a turn until the att +30% mark but none of my things died and two of his units melted to wind monkey and revenge Rigel retaliations without me having to click anything. Long story short, speed is easier to benchmark than other stats, especially effective hp so a lot of people reach a desired speed tier and then think the unit is usable. It's not easy to rune the account properly and I'm 90% sure that a lot of people stuck in f3 or c1 and complaining could easily climb to c3 with the account they have just by shuffling the runes around or adapting their comp to the runes they have (i.e. not using units they can't rune up to their current standard; for example, I have a hey gang, which is a pemium unit, but I'm missing a fast enough acc slot 6 despair or will rune, so I'm only picking him when I know 100% he's getting banned). Hell, I dropped from high c3 to hanging on in c2 just because I was too busy over the summer to re-rune my stuff after the meta changed. For f3-c2 people, speed (on vio/despair) should be +120-130 on all units for a bruiser comp and +140-ish for a cc cleave comp (speed tune to a +190-ish swift Chiwu/Eshir/Moore). I would also advise against using the meta cc comps in those ranks because they require a lot of artifact damage to pull off, but nobody seems to realise it and my wind monkey is very happy about that.
that's not completely clear, but my assumption is taht Bagel is showing "hey, you don't need 300 speed on everything", just so that people look more into efficiency of the runes they pull and stop selling runes as soon as they don't roll into speed, if the rest of the stats make sense and roll well. But he could have been clearer of course !
I always upvote Bagel's videos but this one in particular was AWESOME content. RTA gameplay? Check. Rune advice? Check. Original approach? Check. Keep it up man, fantastic video.
This is pretty nice. sitting at G2 top 400 with similar runes but lesser monster. It's definitely doable to 2nd turn in guardian rank Edit: having a nice force banned LD5 does hard carry you to G3.
This is the video that will probably inspire me to play rta. I know I'm not hitting G3 but if his runes are like that I just need to stop getting discouraged about the low tier farmers and keep pushing.
Hi, i appreciate this video, versy interesting because i'm on rta by a few week and wanna grind. Still i have a proposal for this 1 hour long video. I wish there is chapter in these videos to go when and on which part i wanna see. Thanks if you can do that and have love your content !
It's rock/paper/scissors. Accuracy beats resistance, no-resistance (for other stats) beats accuracy, resistance beats no-accuracy. I didn't even notice the resistance meta, I tend to favor accuracy on my runes.
if you are a turn two player, obviously you need freaking good resistance on your units. in the other hand, i would rid 90% of dose resistance runes... Maybe i have to rethink my RTA strategy 😢
I have an rta question (sorry for my bad english i'm from germany) I got last saturday fighter 3 again and i heared that u get after 7 days minus 5 point. So my question is : do i get tommorow (saturday) the minus points or sunday because i got last saturday at 6 pm
Animations do make a difference in the game, but unless you're a whale it won't impact you too much. I opted to transmog mine because I don't have much time to farm so I wanna make sure to squeeze out every ounce of efficiency. But to be fair, it probably only saves a second or two on each run. P.s. There is a Verde transmog that also makes it faster
Can anyone tell me what runes i can use for Rica because I am early game and just want to know what is the best runes for her. Thank you for your support!
Despair/whatever with spd/hp/hp. Just make sure she has some speed, is tanky, and has good accuracy. Try to aim for at least 55% accuracy. If you're having a hard time with accuracy just toss on a focus set. Also, a little pro tip is too have as little cr as possible on her for things like toa/h, and annoying monster passives.
He's missing runes on some mons cause RTA doesnt keep track of what runes you take off or put on in non-RTA. It does if you sell them, or, switch them around in RTA mode. He's probably still using those mons in Arena or Siege or Guild Battle or PVE.
"Light Druid gets ban every time, so doesn't even matter he had it" ohhh yeah boy. it matters the most... imagine you can ALWAYS pick 4 units that's never be banned because of a force ban on ld5... just to good to dream.
@@aronfuchs7527 every season? but still bagel say it not hard to build your rune when it actually hard with that spd on will 100 res and that +30k hp with 7-1000 def. building 210 spd is even easier maybe lul
I liked the pointer for praha additional damage. Super underrated eternally, but for a while i was running here 300 spd 100% cr and 241 additional dmg to spd and she would easy 7k s1 on even wind sometimes. Additional damage is broken
all this f3 comments are tilting just cuz bagel says it are obtainable runes... those runes are crazy efficient and very hard to get. not only farm alot but raid alot! this guy definitly isnt ld5 boosted
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I'm going to go on a long rant here, so bare with me:
While getting this guy's speed may not be too difficult, I feel like the pretense of the video undermines the actual efficiency of his runes. Take the Lulu for example. +150 speed on Violent, sure, even I may be able to squeeze out something like this (though it would be a bit difficult starting from a clean slate; 42 from slot 2 and ~22 speed average on every other rune). However, he also has +30k HP, 100% Res, and nearly double the base defense. That is a lot of efficiency that isn't mentioned.
I would be hard pressed to scrap a Violent set with 150 speed, but even then, to meet 30k+ HP, I'd probably have to also squeeze out broken sets from random units. And even then, my Lulus bonus defense and resistance would not be as high, especially on Spd/HP/HP), considering all of this guy's 85% res is coming from only substats and not having Res main on 6. I'm willing to bet this Lulu is better (efficiency-wise at least) than 99.99% of SW players, even if it might be slower than some of them.
Trying to put a Lulu on runes as good as his will definitely still take quite a good amount of time and most likely tens of thousands of crystals, if not hundreds of thousands of crystals into energy refills. I've put about 30k crystals into energy refreshes farming runes and I'm still hard pressed to make a Lushen that can one shot GB12 golems on 169 total speed without any attack buff (10.5k per card _without_ attack buff).
Maybe, I'm a bad player for not having a Lulu with 40k HP, 100res, 250 speed, and 1400 def on Violent Will. But I think it should be stated that this guy isn't on poverty runes either. So saying "oh it's only +150 speed, this Lulu is obtainable" is a bit of an understatement. The Lulu might not be on the fastest set. But by golly would it still take me at least a year or more to scrap up a rune set that's this good. Otherwise everyone would have a Lulu that's at the G3 level.
Same goes for the Tetra. Maybe it's not on the fastest swift set, sitting at +161 speed. But look at that HP and Def total. Taking out the flat 100 def from artifact and flat 160 def from slot 3; that's basically ~150% Defense from subs only. No Def% main stat. Speed? Obtainable. Combo'd with everything else to not be squishy like paper? I'll get back to you on that.
Anyways, I'm done ranting. I appreciate the info you provide, bagel. But who are these runes obtainable for exactly. People farming for 1 year? 2 years? Motivation for people in the giant bracket that is F3 RTA? Surely I wont have a Lulu this good after farming half a year.
His speed on stats are so easy to get (below 200) but that is the only stat that is low, its normal to be a turn 2 on a bruiser comp, and people overlook his stats on units are all op (g3 runes) not a fighter 1 runes having lower spd below 200.
the thing that you are missing here is that this is a G3 account. if you can grasp the concept, (its not all about speed) you can reach high levels. you will need similar quality for g3(box, drafts and so on). but same set lulu -5k hp can get u g1. c3 is even easier and so on. it just depends on your goal. talking about that tetra, that is +161 on swift! on an unit that has base 110. if you are not buying premium packs, you can get most of those from farming.
I understand all of that. That's why I said that his runes are extremely high efficiency, and that should not be understated enough. His rune quality is G3 level, that's why I pointed out how efficient it is.
The point I'm trying to make is that Bagel makes all of this sound "so easily obtainable". As if any C1 player can make a Lulu like this because the runes are "obtainable". He says this many times. As someone who is C1, and fights many other C1 players, I can assure you that none of their Lulus are this good. So by bagel saying "this is super obtainable", is an understatement. When in reality, the reason the monsters are "slow" is because they are efficient in every other stat.
This account is using highly efficient runes that are worthy of G3.
In the 20k crystals I've spent in the past 2 months refilling only energy to farm runes, I can assure you none of my Swift sets look as high efficiency as that Tetra. One or two swift rune looking that good? Possibly. Likely on slot 1/3/5. But a whole Swift/Will set looking that good? Unlikely.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't get to top 50 by having shitty runes. You are absolutely correct in your assessment and I think Bagel could have made a stronger point about what makes a rune good using his runes as an example.
I think a lot of people just sell off runes that don't triple roll speed or maybe crit rate and then just stick a bunch of those +21 spd purple runes on their units, get 1-shot as soon as an enemy vio procs out of a stun once and complain about rng. Yesterday I had a game vs a low ranked guy with 4 LD5s (including Valantis and light monkey) in which I didn't take a turn until the att +30% mark but none of my things died and two of his units melted to wind monkey and revenge Rigel retaliations without me having to click anything.
Long story short, speed is easier to benchmark than other stats, especially effective hp so a lot of people reach a desired speed tier and then think the unit is usable. It's not easy to rune the account properly and I'm 90% sure that a lot of people stuck in f3 or c1 and complaining could easily climb to c3 with the account they have just by shuffling the runes around or adapting their comp to the runes they have (i.e. not using units they can't rune up to their current standard; for example, I have a hey gang, which is a pemium unit, but I'm missing a fast enough acc slot 6 despair or will rune, so I'm only picking him when I know 100% he's getting banned). Hell, I dropped from high c3 to hanging on in c2 just because I was too busy over the summer to re-rune my stuff after the meta changed.
For f3-c2 people, speed (on vio/despair) should be +120-130 on all units for a bruiser comp and +140-ish for a cc cleave comp (speed tune to a +190-ish swift Chiwu/Eshir/Moore). I would also advise against using the meta cc comps in those ranks because they require a lot of artifact damage to pull off, but nobody seems to realise it and my wind monkey is very happy about that.
that's not completely clear, but my assumption is taht Bagel is showing "hey, you don't need 300 speed on everything", just so that people look more into efficiency of the runes they pull and stop selling runes as soon as they don't roll into speed, if the rest of the stats make sense and roll well.
But he could have been clearer of course !
It must be hard sometimes for the Pinis to get up in rank
Lol you funny guy
I thought this was gonna be you bullying Sean about his runes.
I was hoping, seeing as Sean is literally hovering at 99/100. Lol
This guy is a genius, his runes are obtainable but his brain is from another galaxy. Thanks for showing us his stuff.
I always upvote Bagel's videos but this one in particular was AWESOME content. RTA gameplay? Check. Rune advice? Check. Original approach? Check. Keep it up man, fantastic video.
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@@mewpee7699 huh?
Pinis? Check
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This actually helped me a lot. I throw away a lot of runes. Although, i do have 790 runes that i need to purge as well....
These are great tips. Usually it would take a ton of losses to learn these tactics.
This is pretty nice. sitting at G2 top 400 with similar runes but lesser monster. It's definitely doable to 2nd turn in guardian rank
Edit: having a nice force banned LD5 does hard carry you to G3.
I was in g3 before I had valantis Btw, so sorry, I have to disagree 🤷🏽♂️😂
@@aronfuchs7527 This is you in the video? nice. Once I get your monster box (minus the LD5), i'll reach G3 too
Someone slower than Sean_B at higher rank :O
The reason people put damage reduced from water on non fire units is because you get a lot of value against mo long third skill
Master Pinis~ 💪
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This is the video that will probably inspire me to play rta. I know I'm not hitting G3 but if his runes are like that I just need to stop getting discouraged about the low tier farmers and keep pushing.
Thanks man really helped! I try turn 2 and with the f3 situation this is a nice guide
was going on youtube to learn guitar but saw this...
welcome 😀😂
1:44 We're going to take a look at Pinis picks?
If I remember correctly Feng Yan doesn't use additional dmg for his vampire heals, only the atk scaling part of skill 1 will work.
not gonna lie, i really needed to see this, because my account is giving me a LOT of bruiser type mon
Hi, i appreciate this video, versy interesting because i'm on rta by a few week and wanna grind. Still i have a proposal for this 1 hour long video. I wish there is chapter in these videos to go when and on which part i wanna see. Thanks if you can do that and have love your content !
I am addicted to your content sir bagel
I know you o.0
i know you 0.0 x2
yes especially them pinis content right?
This was the biggest pinis video I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t possibly imagine more stuff stuffed into this pinis account.
Would love more of these !
Dude in first match definitely surrendered because lulu resisted strip. 😂
It's rock/paper/scissors. Accuracy beats resistance, no-resistance (for other stats) beats accuracy, resistance beats no-accuracy. I didn't even notice the resistance meta, I tend to favor accuracy on my runes.
The runes aren't that hard to get, it's just... I have 10, he has 140+... in the right sets.
Loved this video as I am now focusing on RTA, thanks thanks]
if you are a turn two player, obviously you need freaking good resistance on your units. in the other hand, i would rid 90% of dose resistance runes... Maybe i have to rethink my RTA strategy 😢
Wow that's an amazing vid from you bagel-chan
I have no 280+ spd and I'm C2
Pinis just happens to have more sets and units
I have an rta question (sorry for my bad english i'm from germany)
I got last saturday fighter 3 again and i heared that u get after 7 days minus 5 point. So my question is : do i get tommorow (saturday) the minus points or sunday because i got last saturday at 6 pm
Why people still pick green over red panda after the aoe cleanse buff.
I feel water lich is heavily underestimated, everyone builds fire lich first lol
Can Pinis be trusted? We have the same box "Valantis" user here and I have decent runes.
He dont have kinki, so his suiki is despair revenge. Nice!
Amazing video!
Wait transmogs make a difference on the tricaru? I didn't know animation mattered 🤔
Animations do make a difference in the game, but unless you're a whale it won't impact you too much. I opted to transmog mine because I don't have much time to farm so I wanna make sure to squeeze out every ounce of efficiency. But to be fair, it probably only saves a second or two on each run.
P.s. There is a Verde transmog that also makes it faster
Halloween verde
decrease time of run
Yeah, verde too. My tricaru got 5 seconds faster i guess (dont remember) when i transmog all 4 of them.
@@potxtoe I don't remember all the transmog stat, but only 1 or 2 icaru should be transmoged, not all 3
I predict the evolution of this game is going to turn in to turn 2 teams soon.
Can anyone tell me what runes i can use for Rica because I am early game and just want to know what is the best runes for her. Thank you for your support!
Despair Will/Energy, or maybe Vio Will/Energy
Despair/whatever with spd/hp/hp. Just make sure she has some speed, is tanky, and has good accuracy. Try to aim for at least 55% accuracy. If you're having a hard time with accuracy just toss on a focus set.
Also, a little pro tip is too have as little cr as possible on her for things like toa/h, and annoying monster passives.
Nice Pinis showcase Bagel... lul
Stull early game but a good watch. Seeing how top players bhukd mons and play is always a good watch.
no 300 spd. all units are on 299
Why did i sell my Res runes... should have reapp instead *tears*
That Douglas looks exactly like my Wolyong 😂
if u go res u need 100 or 59 with 41 lead. res Slot 6 is more efficient then hp slot 6, because u can grind hp
OOOH i love those :) thanks bagel !
Add him on instagram @pinissw :D
damn, lushen plus 100 spd with those stats is sick...
Wonder how he fairs against gianas coz almost all his mons have will runes
100 res :D
he first picks seara and he has a tetra, plus the resist. dont think he would have much difficulty dealing with giana
Have you not heard of Haegang, tetra and the 15% Lulu??
Expose the pinis!!
for real just get all nat 5 and you win
He's missing runes on some mons cause RTA doesnt keep track of what runes you take off or put on in non-RTA. It does if you sell them, or, switch them around in RTA mode. He's probably still using those mons in Arena or Siege or Guild Battle or PVE.
if he can't make runes then how will he help?
Res in mainstat can be more efficient due to grinds..
Bagel very sus today
this guy got some beautiful people on his profile picture
Watches video has a few of the monsters still 10k hp short on any of the monsters.
But... His name was [Painiz], like you will read π, and no demonetisation would've been involved...
"Light Druid gets ban every time, so doesn't even matter he had it" ohhh yeah boy. it matters the most... imagine you can ALWAYS pick 4 units that's never be banned because of a force ban on ld5... just to good to dream.
So you can get g3 with slow runes, all you need is a specific LD nat 5..
More good runes and smart drafts
Easily obtainable runes, proceeds to show quad speed roll.
Well it's about balance and effieciency, for every quadroll spd you put on you can get away with a duoroll spd and whatever stat you need instead.
great video, go aftermath =)
Finally some hope
I LOVE Douglas!! I think I can manage to get to this level if I pick right, but I'm stuck at F3.. Luckily I'm only improving!
Lol nothing change since Volado_Control showed all his runes on march this year
And such a gigant brain he has
know it's been a few months .... is there a link? =D
edit: nvm found it, same player's runes shown by different youtuber.
@@tormundazia5982 can u link pls
Trueeee haha
I might get in touch with pinis, he looks as a very soft guy that just has it hard from time to time
next video comfirmed jewbagel gonna reveal his *****
Carried by valantis and lucksack, this season is just something else
I was g3 before I had valantis so I don’t really agree lol
Are you the owner of the acc?
@@aronfuchs7527 every season? but still bagel say it not hard to build your rune when it actually hard with that spd on will 100 res and that +30k hp with 7-1000 def. building 210 spd is even easier maybe lul
time for bagel to be G3 xD! hahaha challenge acepted?
This video is awsome!!
And my blue rune doesnt even roll 11 Spd ....
Can you do a video doing rta on your main? Or 2v2 with Sean B?
expose the WHAT
Sorry bro but verdehile isnt good vs champong, all the time this wind unit use his 2 later 3 and my revx3 verde never move.
Plot Twist. The real tactic is to manage resisting the enemies abilities consecutively to make them rage/tilt into a forfeit, izi win.
C1? I just want to get F3 im keep being bullied down here 😭
I liked the pointer for praha additional damage. Super underrated eternally, but for a while i was running here 300 spd 100% cr and 241 additional dmg to spd and she would easy 7k s1 on even wind sometimes. Additional damage is broken
vio will 100 res +150 spd around +30k hp. trust me swift 210 spd is easier to build here
I can't believe this is a g3 account
Good lord my runes roll lie ass lol
all this f3 comments are tilting just cuz bagel says it are obtainable runes... those runes are crazy efficient and very hard to get. not only farm alot but raid alot! this guy definitly isnt ld5 boosted
got a lot out of that... thanks!
These runes are insane.
fastest demonitization ever XD
Praha op ;)
Excuse me wtf is this, guy is l&d boosted
Nice I can finally play rta
Who would win: Literally 0.5% of the game, or, Pinis~
Best Intro ever! Lezgo!
#1 not me
i played vs him in the 2v2 rta the other day
dat water lich nat 5
He needs Karnal.
this demotived me even further to do rta lol
Valantis is the 2nd best unit after giana, he can carry to G3 everybody easily.
Not really, his s3 and passive are extremely luck based
Crazy seara
this is like seanb account lol
So you don't have to buy only 300 speed set of runes, you just buy all the pack and go G3, ok!
I paid 8000€ in total :) that’s not even close to every pack every month. Also with all packs you would have way better runes
Most of people that buy acc will only buy everything that have reapp in pack and event pack that it. Not so many player that buy every pack.
@@aronfuchs7527 So we can be g3 by buying only 8k € of packs, ok thank you :)
Rip money from this video
pianist
MAKE 2V2 VIDEO WITH SOMEONE
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