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Do you agree with my assessment? Not only are they going to sell a bucket load of these, but the movement is going to be in EVERYTHING, literally everything, assuming they pump them out of the Malaysian factory fast enough. The price is optimistic, but I actually really like the bezel insert and the jubilee. Now, roll on the Helm Vanuatu Titanium GMT..... Cheers, Jody
Go for the flat sapphire, Jody. That's where I think 90% of modders go wrong. Double-domed doesn't suit the profile of the skx and family, and it just makes the watch even thicker.
You can thank me later 🙏😉
That's an astute comment.
And one of those 'but of course...it's so simple' situations.
I *love* a box domed crystal. But it is a particular style option not suited to many of this eras chunky case designs.
Well said.
This man is speaking sense.
I also agree. Keep it flat.
Not necessarily! A no-bevel domed sapphire matched with a sloped ceramic bezel insert from the likes of DLW and others looks great and extremely integrated… it’s a great look!!
Flat 100%
OMG “nothing worse than a man flew”… hahahahahaha love it, keep it up!
I don’t understand those that criticise the specs of this watch. This is new mechanism once again that the entire world is going to jack.. also it’s not 1990, you ain’t guna get this for 200 dollars
Wait 12 months mate and let's see what micros will give you for the same money using the same movement.
More GMT mass-produced movements will boost the whole industry for years. Looking forward to a boom both for SII and the microbrand customers (with minimal additional cost). Exciting.
I believe it’s just future shock things have gone up exponentially people are still getting used to the new prices of everything people just remember The good old days every generation does it I remember my grandparents and my parents all complaining about what the new prices were.I even remember myself complaining it’s supposed to because the prices go up and my paycheck still stays the same that’s what hurts but I realize their prices have gone up I have to pay more so we have to nothing we can really do about it we’re addicted we have to have the product.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Still. Those will exist solely because people bought those Seiko.
I don’t understand the criticism on specs either. Seiko has taken the risks and has developed the movement, it just makes sense that they are going to charge more than a random micro brand that will just buy and case a NH34. R&D costs money.
And the great thing is with those SKX/SSK/SRPD we know we have plenty of mod parts to improve the watch ! Overall I think we should all thank Seiko because if it wasn’t for them and Citizen literally 90% of the micro brands wouldn’t exist !
Totally agree. Its Seiko. The heritage and history. Of course a micro-band or a chinese company can produce it a cheaper price with greater specs, but the feeling is totally different for me if you wear a Seiko as oppose to a lesser-known brand. Also, essentially its a Seiko 5, so i dont understand why people complain that it needs a sapphire, milled clasp etc.. because none of their Seiko 5 lineups have sapphires. Its different if its a Prospex line and you are paying at premium prices yet no sapphire. This is truly a great watch with an affordable GMT workhorse. Im getting +2 seconds/day with my Seiko 5 GMT. Loving it. Even if there is a microband using the same 4R34 movement next year, i would still love my Seiko 5 GMT because I simply just love it. So haters just deal with it. Haha
I do agree with you Jodie. This is an important movement and will open up a plethora of new reasonably priced quality GMT watches. I'm excited to have a modded Seiko GMT once they are available.
I’m still yet to add a GMT to my collection. 6-12months ago I’d have snapped one up. I do like the looks of these, but dive-style watches have fallen out of my rotation and don’t feel the need to run out and pick one up at the current retail price.
Wish it had a screw down crown 😭
Yes totally agree, 200m water resist and they would sell a bunch. The whole 5 range is off limits due to lack of screw down crown. Shame about that.
I’ pay an extra $100 just for the extra water resist.
@@Big_Al_4223 Marc at Long Island Watch will do something with the 4R34.
I hope it's in his SKX style Islander.
Out of interest, why do you wish that so much? A screw down crown doesn’t make the watch any more water resistant - it only prevents the crown being pulled out whilst under water.
You mean interesting prospex?
Boom tish!
I can't wrap my head around Seiko using so much hardlex. Seriously, when buying in bulk, people would gladly pay the minimal difference for sapphire
@@polygoncoco You're missing the point. Sapphire from a production standard, would raise manufacturing cost by like $5 a watch. They could raise the price $20 and people would gladly pay it
@@polygoncoco MORE people would buy it if they used a sapphire crystal, but they wouldn't lose anyone for the minimal price increase. I never buy Seiko because of this reason
Sub $100 Chinese specials now regularly feature sapphire that checks out. There's no excuse. Most of the Seikos in my collection have screen protectors stuck on them. They do the job but it is a lash-up
@@ComUnSas I just ordered sapphires from Aliexpress and swapped them out
I myself think that the reason why seiko only has hardlex crystals on their watches is that they know that a sapphire crystal will shatter if it gets a big impact against a hard object. The hardlex crystal is a lot more durable than a sapphire one and could end up with scratches and not much else. However having said all that if the Chinese microbrand companies can supply us with sapphire crystals on their watches then why can't seiko?.
The real star of the show for me is that new jubilee; solid female endlinks and a proper taper, showing Strapcode and their fugly bracelets how it's done.
Good after market jubilee bracelets are not easy to find.
I currently wear my Champagne Alpinist (SPB123J) on a jubie from Parnis, not because it is good and not because it is cheap. But because its 'okay'; at ~ 3.2mm depth it suits the case perfectly asnd isn't overly weighty - pkus it tapers to just under 16mm.
There's probably something better available but after settling on jubilee #3, throwing more $ at a sub $1k watch is...inefficient.
NH34 powered homage watches incoming... Oh this is going to be good.
As for this particular watch... It was a nice surprise to see solid end links. Shame about the pressed clasp though. But that it easily fixed with a cheap milled one. I would have preferred a solid caseback, as the movement definitely isn't a looker by any means. Great video as always Jody.
Exactly! This movement is going to have unparallelled horological significance. Take that Rolex!
I think you're right about the fallout for the microbrand market more than this watch's own appeal. I find it an example of Seiko flaunting cheapness and can think of better ways to spend my money. Now, a Samurai or Monster GMT? That's a different story! Cheers!
Great review! That's the first Seiko that's made me want to get my credit card out of my wallet for at least 5 years, maybe longer. Even spending $100 more to get it "perfect" it's still a bargain and will still say Seiko on the dial. And I don't have an orange watch at the moment either.
Yes a review of the gmt 5 by Jody! Best channel on RUclips, period!
Love my Blueberry! Running really accurately too… +20s over a week… pretty good I’d say. Not a lover of the bezel insert though. The daylight half is either black or a garish blue depending on angle, and I’ve never been a lover of the prominent polished bevel on the crystal. A matched pair of no-bevel domed sapphire and Batman ceramic bezel insert are on the way from DLW as we speak!
Dude any way you can send me a picture of what the watch looks like after you've swapped out the bezel?
Great looking watch, but with some features that had shortcuts, like the friction bezel rather than a full clicking bi-
directional bezel. But again, for the price, this is an action packed watch. Definitely worth the value for the price range...it's a welcomed entry.
I’m tempted to buy it and mod it but I might wait to see what the micro brands come out with. I’m thinking Marc at Long Island Watch would make a lot of varieties and one of them would probably be what I would mod it into anyway.
The biggest thing I want is a red and black bezel a la the Tudor Black Bay.
Exactly what I've been waiting for. Thank you Seiko. An affordable automatic GMT.
Something totaly off topic! I just orderd the Steeldive SD1980 for a measely €120,-! The SD1970 is at the moment €108,-.........on mister AliExpress. For those who still have no "captain Willard" hommage.
I guess the speed of the Chinese homages will depend on the depth of their nh35 stocks, I suspect closer to 6 months. It’s an SKX with jet setter ambitions, same cheap ass short cuts, kudos for solid end links but no sapphire and a pressed clasp. I do like the bezel. So the bottom line is that Seiko’s biggest new release isn’t actually new. I would save my money for a helm
I can imagine a Helm GMT is coming at some point!
@@bensynewsshoedown4999 excellent, another waiting list I can join!!!
17 Minutes Jody! That’s all it took for me to buy this watch. 14min of your video and 3 more minutes to find one and purchase it! I just sold a whole bunch of watches and told my wife “no more watches”…… that ended in 17min. 🤣
I'm willing to pay extra for a REAL GMT with a REAL crystal. No more entry level watches for me. TY Jody!
Bloody Seiko, price almost $900, no sapphire glass or even ceramic bezel. Clasp also look cheap. Other than that, this thing look damn good. Nice review Jody 👍
Been waiting for this review. The watch is great, but more importantly, the new NH34 movement will give us many more GMT options from micro brands in the future. Exciting!
Think people are more excited about the movement rather than the watch itself :) Nice work as always Jody 👌
Hopefully they put out a 3rd party movement. Personally I'll wait until San Martin puts this movement in a watch, thanks.
On the next video, Jody will be showing us the Pagani Design '5KX' GMT. Signed and screw down crown, sapphire crystal, better bracelet, 120 click bezel, etc. All for $75 USD with coupons. LOL!
Day Date GMT and I'm all over AliExpress, I swear 😍🙏
Let's be honest most people who have a GMT don't use it .it's the same as people buying into a dive watch that must have at least 30m capabilities with screw down every thing blah blah blah but 80/percent won't use it leaving it redundant so really those people would be better off with a Casio because they're waisting money on a watch they don't need lol but let's be honest who really needs a Rolex ? And the funny thing is nearly everyone would wear one., whether it's a dive watch a GMT or explorer they're just used as fashion boosters not what it says on the tin.
I wish Seiko would revive the mid-size version of the SKX. Gimme a 38mm GMT and I'd jump on it.
At close to 900 AUD, you could almost get a Steinhart GMT with an ETA or Sellita movement.
My G shock does all this and more, and for $50 sir!
🤦 Sort of!
Man I had a man flu last month and barely made it.... Good luck my friend, half of us know what its like
The Seikos I have most experience of 7S26 and NH36 both have similarly loose specs and it's easy to get them to +5s area, no excuse for Seiko to fob you off with those numbers at the price they are charging, with hardlex!
Mm8iuus×#admissions Ww
I can't see seiko discarding hardlex any time soon unfortunately. If they bit the bullet and dumped hardlex for sapphire they'd never look back! But none of us are holding our breath about that one!.
@@robertlindo8058 Its bizarre, I picked up a slightly domed sapphire crystal for my snk805 and it's transformed it. Looking at it next to the 809 and 803, I'm looking for more crystals at a good price. Seiko could do that for very little money considering the economy of scale they would have
if the Chinese microbrand companies can supply us with homage watches fitted with sapphire crystals it's high time that seiko got its finger out and dumped hardlex for sapphire.!
I had a feeling when you said to stay tuned for the weekend!
Finally, a budget auto Seiko GMT movement! This will be a game changer for the budget and micro brand scene and I reckon Seiko will win big from this.
I think the biggest thing I wish they'd fix is the bezel. Just make it click.
I got jebaited. I saw orange in thumbnail and got all excited then it turned out it was black. Not cool man, not cool :/
I’d love to see a “change the clasp tutorial “ please 👍🏽
I'd like Seiko to release a cheap thin manual wind two hander with no date and let the Chinese n Micros loose on that
‘Pro cyclops’ lol - is that like pro centaur? Or pro unicorn?
Will Seiko actually release an NH34 gmt to the micro brand market, though? Surely it’s in their interests to keep it to themselves, particularly as there’s so much hype and success swirling about this new 5 gmt.
The 5 is gonna sell (already is). So why not get a double bite at the cherry, and make money off a ton of movements sold to micro brands? 💁♂
(I know nothing about business, don't listen to me 😅)
Push-pull crown, Hardlex, and friction bezel mean that I won't be purchasing, but excited to see what Islander and others will do with this movement!
I actually prefer the all black and grey one. If you do end up getting the orange one and want to get rid off this black please let me know Jody 👍😉
Looking forward to the inevitable Islander GMT.
Got mine a few days ago, last one from the AD. Never had a Seiko 5, but now might have to get a 5KX and a DressKX while I wait for more GMTs to be released.
Looks like I'll be waiting for the Microbrands to get the movement.😁
12:10 “Now those would be very, very interesting _prospects_ (Prospex), would they not?”
I see what you did there…
I caught that one as well!
I do think l will go for this Seiko,but l,m afraid not until they are at sale or special offer prices. But certainly looks good.
Sapphire should be bog standard
So what famous GMT's is Pagani Design going to hommage first?
This vs cronos or pagani etc is what we need to see
Timex have release some nice gmt's watches. So it does seem that its the year of the GMT watch!
This should've been in the dressKX case, not the 5KX case, IMHO
Ooooo, that's such a nice case. Maybe soon?
Marc at Long Island Watch has already indicated he's waiting for the NH version of the movement and will be creating a GMT Islander watch series.
Looking forward to that day ⌚😎👍
With that said; I'll probably be getting one of those Seiko's 😁
Can't wait. It will be less expensive and even better than Seiko's version because you know Marc will put a sapphire crystal on it as will all is other Islander homages.
You use a friction bezel because you’re setting a GMT bezel against an hour hand not a minute hand. It’s not a cost-cutting measure, it has a specific function. And it has to, or rather, should be bi-directional. Not sure why you’re complaining about it. It’s a very common practice with GMTs. GMTs that don’t have bi-directional friction bezels are not a proper implementation on the bezel.
So the Rolex GMT Master II doesn't have a proper bezel implementation?
@@slyfondle1885 no, they're just different implementations of the same thing. They both do what they need to do. Seiko implemented it by simply removing the staggered locking click spring under the bezel. Lots of people who mod Seikos with 12 hour dual time bezel inserts do the exact same thing. But the frictionless bezel actually lets you set the bezel more accurately since it doesn't have detents so you can more accurately position it. Watches with GMT movements that don't use bi-directional bezels are the ones that are not implemented correctly because the bezel should be able to go in either direction quickly without having to completely rotate it a full 360º+ to set it properly. BTW, I never mentioned a single thing about Rolex. Why so sensitive?
@@stevenwymor1398 Only sensitive to sweeping and incorrect generalisations.
@@slyfondle1885 🙄
I like GMTs and Seiko, so this is a natural choice, but would love to see a Turtle style version... ⌚👍
Let's see if the bezel is align with the indexes. Ha, Have! Excellent video! Thanks!
Expectations of what constitutes good value in a £400 watch have definitely moved on. Not so long ago even Seiko were offering the likes of the 6r15 in Sarbs at this price point. I'm not sure a 4r with no sapphire and a still pretty poor pressed clasp cuts it. I have to say it does look great and the strap looks like a major improvement over the SKX. I am looking forward to seeing what the microbrands offer with this movement.
Hello Jody. Been looking forward to this. What really surprises me is that Starbu, who are usually the guys to beat price wise are selling this for $875 while its in the 500s at Sakura JDM. Keep it up!
Does Sakura charge import fees etc?
I love the look of these. I gotta wait till the hype dies down and save some money😂 Disregarding the GMT part the base setup of these with the colors and bracelet and that cyclops sets it off for me personally. I really like the look of cyclopes but watch companies don’t use them as often which is unfortunate.
I think it's a belter for the money! I shall be ordering a blue one just as soon as finances allow. Thanks for the video!
I just got my Orange GMT, and I have to say it is a fantastic watch, Seiko did an amazing job. I am wearing mine on a black and grey nato. The bezel has also that grey/black effect, looks better in real life than the pictures.
Thanks Jody for the video 🙏👍
May I ask whether you paid retail price or got a discount from the AD?
@@zeiss72 Paid full retail price from Seiko Online boutique.
You make a good point about NH34 movements for microbrands, but it will have competition with the new Miyota 9075(?) hi beat GMT movement already appearing in a few watches.
Great review Jody, interesting speculation around the movement. All a bit samey for me, seen one of these Seiko's you've seen em all.
Unless there is a deep price cut at some point, this one will have to be a pass for me. Seiko really should have made it cheaper, or given it sapphire, maybe a better clasp, plus lumed the bezel (huge missed opportunity on that last one). That said, I can't wait until the NH34 hits the market, as I'm sure there will be MANY good price/great spec'ed watches coming out in the next few years.
Thank You. I agree on that. What you get at the price point is "Lacking".....
I think the fun factor with the SKX was it was under $300 when I got one, and some street cred being certified and showing up in media, and there seemed to be this customization culture that was going on with it. It was like young guys buying Honda Civics back in the day and mod-ing them and tuning them. It gave people a chance to tap into something watch related, without buying a luxury watch.
The specs are actually impressive for the price. And like.you said, the implications are very tantalizing!
It's a game-changer. I'm glad you ended up with a black one, as most reviews feature the blue. Black may end up being the sleeper color. I'm sure some of us are eyeing 2 or more of these models at least.
While I'm definitely waiting for microbrands to get this and put out better/more affordable offerings, this is definitely a very nice looking piece. For those willing to pay extra to mod it, why not replace the gmt bezel with a timing/dive style one? You already have the 24 hour chapter ring.... That would give you loads of functionality! That's what I'm hoping someone does (Long Island Watch? Zelos??) when Seiko starts selling the movement.
Personally, I think that the new Miyota 9075 traveler's GMT movement is going to disrupt the GMT market even more than these.
I've probably seen 5 Seiko NH movements for every Miyota 9000 over the years, so I'd expect similar penetration on the gmt variants. I'll definitely need to organise a head to head soon!
The Long Island Watch GMTs that Marc has foreshadowed are very appealing. It will be interesting to see what they will look like. I also think that a Phoibos Eagle Ray GMT containing the NH 34 movement would have great appeal to affordable watch collectors - the question is will the current Eagle Ray GMT / Eagle Ray cases be easily adaptable to the NH34? If so, I very much look forward to seeing those offerings from Phoibos.
Game changer at an almost disposable price! What's not to love?! Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻
Having cheaper GMT movements through an NH34 means so many more affordable, practical GMTs.
So I guess if you are after a GMT and you can live with hardlex glass pressed clasps and a visually identical design to the standard Seiko 5 this must be the one? Think your comments about the movement getting into other brands might in the end be the really exciting outcome for us watch nerds. Because I’m certainly not sellling my skx to get this one becaue the GMT hand isn’t enough reason to as there is no other real advantage or progress made with the rest of the watch. Let’s see what other creations come out with this movement! Nice review Mr M!
I like it very much. I’m warming up the braceletsI really like the Jubilee or an engineers bracelet they’re comfortable to wear. The other ones I’m still not quite as open to. Thanks for sharing your time with us
As has been said, the GMT complication is as important as it's ever been - and for different reasons than it was initially important.
The prospect of boutique brands using this movement in exciting and affordable watches is a good thing for the global village we all inhabit.
would love to see the clasp swapped to a $10 aliexpress milled clasp, would probably fix the only issue i have with the bracelet
Yup.
Enthusiasts need to realise this is an option and then embrace it, particularly for on the fly adjustment.
Hey, I like folded end links and pressed clasps. If made well, they *can* be *extremely* comfortable. But I also prefer acrylic and aluminium inserts... But that doesn't matter. If it bothers you, fix it, exactly like you say, exactly like (and why) we are all comfortable exchanging straps.
I'm getting sick of the amount of whining in this hobby. If it bothers you, either fix it or buy something else! Don't just complain about every watch that isn't tailor made to your tastes and budget.
Damn... That took an unexpected turn! It's possible I'm angry about other things at present! 😂
Apologies for hi-jacking your valuable comment. ✌🏼️
@@anthonysmith2982 negative commentary is sometimes just as, if not MORE important than the positive stuff. Any good brand will take constructive criticism and use it to make their products better.
@@Jon81G
Obviously.
My comment doesn't refer to commentary or constructive criticism, both of which are pretty much always self evident. I'm talking about the negativity, also almost always self evident.
Looking forward to this watch! A friend of mine is an authorized Seiko dealer, he told me he will reserve one for me then called me 5 mins later to say he cant, apparently his wife sold out their entire stock in 2 mins. Lol. Gotta wait a few more weeks for the next batch
Definitely on my list now....the Orange one! But I'll wait a bit. It will not be at full retail forever. Excellent video Jody. And yes, Covid is nothing compared to man flu !!
TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
I’ve never really liked Seiko styling and couldn’t justify the price vs. a high spec micro or even a highly modded Orient mako/ray II. Thanks in part to your reviews, my collection of affordable watches has grown considerably in the last few months. I have a couple Steeldives, 4 or 5 different Pagani homages that I genuinely enjoy and I went on an Orient kick a while back and ended up with 5 of those, all with crystal, bezel/insert and bracelet/strap mods that kept me occupied while recovering from an injury. My latest horological itch has come in the form of type-B fliegers after getting beaten on an eBay auction on a San Martin SN030. I know I should have waited for the sale but I had to scratch the itch so I ended up buying a Steeldive SD1940 on the upgraded bracelet that was on sale right then that still has not arrived. After doing a little more research I decided that one wouldn’t be enough and I needed ‘just one more flieger’ so I have an Escapement Time PT5000 (last one available on AliExpress Black Friday sale) on the way and I can’t wait to get it on wrist to see if I like it as much in real life as I did in pictures and video reviews. I may gift or return the Steeldive but I have a really hard time letting go of watches, even ones I don’t wear because I MIGHT want to wear it one day. It’s a sickness, Dr. Jody, do you know a cure? 😂 Thanks for the great reviews!
That GMT on the dial,is rose pink and not the lovely fire engine red of the GMT hand.Slapped wrist for Seiko........................
Seiko again... no sapphire, no ceramic bezel... no thanks! And the price is ridiculous...
OK. Seiko 5 GMT vs BOLDR Venture Carbon Black vs RZE RESOLUTE 2022 - ARCTICGREY vs saving more for Formex Essense Thirty-nine... ?
It's a buy for me...Blue Max for moi...Gr8 review btw. Thanks for sharing J!
I would certainly love to see the 4R34 in the Dress KX and turn it into.Dress KX GMT. That would certainly pique my interest. And I foresee you're gonna be right on the money that microbrands and AliExpress watch manufacturers will use this caliber to make their own GMT watches.
ive been debating to get this, i really like seiko, but i also want to upgrade to a prospex, but i really want this watch, it looks soooo clean
Great to see a Sydney review from a world-leading reviewer, Jody.
There are already cheap GMT movements available for microbrands to use. There's Seagull and H.K. already.
Morning jody, the prospect of this movement ending up with micro brands is very appealing, Zelos could double their range over night, a gmt swordfish would be very cool. Also a Helm komodo gmt would b super cool, if you could get one!
Very pretty industrial design costume jewelry. Without screw down crown and ISO 6425 it's a poser dive watch for children. Never understood GMT. Day/date more useful.
I handled all 3 of them and tbh honest I was very impressed. Yeah the retail price might be a bit high but who pays retail 😂? My local AD has them at 399 from day one. The clasp should've been milled though.
"handled all 3"...?
Gee, could you maybe keep your grubby paws off if you're not purchasing? I bet you're one of those people who touches every piece of fruit in the supermarket before realising you've already got fruit at home and put each one back 😒
(Joking, joking... I'd love to get hands on too, if there was a decent jeweller in my town 😅)
@@gamesetmatt23 Haha 😅. I actually had all 3 on loan for a review last weekend. My paws were all over them during all that time 😂.
Starbuy have the Orange SSK005 for $875 AUD!!! Even at $875 its still a decent GMT! Cheers .
I’m glad it wasn’t a Prospex. If it was it’d $800 and have a misaligned bezel and pressed clasp.
Great movement for microbrands that can create various dials with GMT functionality. For Seiko, I go for a true GMT. Don't see the point to buy one for me. Sorry. Bracelet is an improvement, but fior a €450 watch? I don't know.
@1:15 Seiko GMT movement- Xlnt analysis. Seiko's current NH35 can be found on ebay for as little as $30. (new!). So expect the GMT movement to go into a lot of microbrands at cut-throat (low) prices
“High polish silver surrounds” … (throws pedantic yellow flag on the play) … ‘silver colour” or “silver”?
I like it. I don’t love it. It’s a missed opportunity as far as I’m concerned. Relaunch the SKX with full specs as a certified diver, add sapphire crystal(Just as they have done on the turtle and sumo and samurai), with this movement and call it the ‘King SKX GMT’…. This one will sell well however that one would sell millions.
Lmao I have the EXACT SK5 you just flashed! Since I don't have a SKX I'll take it. I did have to change the bracelet. it was typically too small for me. replaced it with an engineer and now I can't stop going to it
Much more I waiting from Seiko 7548-7000 / 7C43-7010 reissue with 7C46 and sapphire
Not a Seiko fan in general, and the 5 series in particular. Not a fan of a push/pull crown with "100m" WR... if you do more than get it wet in the rain, getting it wet while washing your car, or accidently falling in the pool you're pushing your luck.
The Jubilee is good but not great, and the clasp is not good at all.
Strapcode... has a better Jubilee, and a better clasp. Love thier products, but not inexpensive.
I personally won't be getting this model, but as you said, this will open up up a hole new chapter for keenly priced GMTs.