That's a good idea... to check out his playing. I had a teacher that used to say: "why do you ask me? Listen to the original recording and figure it out yourself"
A great tune to work on. Thanks for going over this. It seems to be a song that can be approached in many different ways. I'm still working on it decades after first hearing and attempting to play it. Thank you so much for your insights and viewpoints. I'm back to working on this great tune once again. :0)
Hi Mikko, merely to proove you how serious I take your extended arpeggio;s I think you forgot the Bb713b9 you wrote in the upper octave a Bb, of course you meant a c..Very impressive video, the way you play your musicality the way you show that everything is in the modes, and how you prove it Great again..
Such lush chords, so many great colors. This is hugely helpful lesson, thanks Mikko! How’s the D’Angelico? It sounds great! What are you playing through and do I detect a hint of delay?
Hi, Mikko, good video. I might have missed it but what happened to the DM7#5 which is in most versions? It somehow got changed to E7#11 which are quite different notes. Thanks.
Dmaj7(#5) over E is the same thing as E7#11. Using a Dmaj7(#5) shape is a great way to create an E7(#11) voicing. Remember also that there is a Bb pedal happening so the New Real Book says Dmaj7(#5)/Bb I think and the old real book says E7(#11) but it's essentially the same thing. I can't remember if I explain this in the video it's been so long
@@Mikkokosmos Yes, it's been long! But why put it over E? The Bb pedal is the #5 so that's okay but I don't see the two chords are similar. DM7#5 is D F# A# C# and E7#11 is E G# B D (A# pedal). Are they the same? I know the old book and the new book are different and everybody hates the old book. Strangely I prefer the B7/A7 to all those M7 chords :-)
Is my real book wrong, or can I just not transpose? His chords in the last 2 bars of A section are: B7b11 - A7b11- Abmaj7 while mine are: Gbmaj7/C- Emaj7/C -Fmaj7/C so transposed this would be Amaj7/Eb - Gmaj7/Eb - Abmaj7/Eb Or am i doing something wrong?
yes don't I explain that in the video? I hope I did. Amaj7b5/B is the same thing as B7#11. I dont know what b11 is? Should be #11. If your Real Book says b11 it's wrong. And then you add the bass pedal Eb to the mix. That's why it's confusing.
Hey man thanks for this lesson. I'm a bassist, but I generally get all my harmonic information and ideas from guitarists and sax players. So I have a question. With regard to the extended arpeggios, I'm looking at the 2nd measure of the "B" section that has the Bb Half Whole diminished arpeggio. You have an E natural written into the sheet music, which would give you a #11. The melody of the tune has an "Eb" in that measure, which is a natural 11. Why would you use the E natural, instead of the Eb? Personally I like the idea of the Eb better (for now) since it just creates a Cb Aug triad stacked on top of a Bb7. It lays better under my hand rather than playing that 4th interval of Cb(B) to E. Let me know what you think.
Good question. I guess when I hear the 13(b9) sound I automatically hear symmetrical diminished. That Eb is not a resting note there just in passing. But yes you could play a mixo b9 scale I guess? Not very often talked about I guess it's a mode of the harmonic major scale. Eb harmonic major. The Eb tends to be considered an avoid note on dominant chords because it clashes with the third.
@@Mikkokosmos thank you for that information. There's still a lot I have to figure out and I wasn't really aware of symmetrical diminished scales. Also I thought the fourth was an avoid note only on major 7th chords but not the dominants But that makes sense, because it's still a major third. I will investigate this further. Maybe I'll make a point not to hang on the Eb lol.Thanks so much for your time!
In my Real Book, the last chord of B part is indicated as an Gb7 (9/13) and I try to play the Db dorian scale over it, but... doesn't sound very well to me. However, you play an Emaj7. Could you please explain enithing about this. Thanks.
Same thing as with the earlier chords. If you play an Emaj7b5 on the piano with your left hand and put an F# in the bass you get an F#13 chord. Not sure where you get the dorian scale from? 🤔
@@Pedraforta yes but an #11 chord can contain the regular fifth as well. In this case I think it's better to think of the voicing as a Maj7b5 since we don't want the regular fifth 🤠
so I mean then this 16th'shape 7 1 3 5 II 7 9 11 13 II 11 9 7 5 II 3 5 7 9 of course literally the 7th doesn't belong there in the beginning...I've got this from Eef Albers he plays this over Zeg 'ns Aaa ending of the program(dutch Broadcast comedy)
Mr Coltrane just plays the melody. Cheat. 😁
I have to admit this is one of my favourite tunes, ever. So a huge thank you.
The only video I could find on which scales and how to use them over Naima. Great!
Can’t wait for this! Both for the instruction on this great tune and to see the new D’Angelico in action! Thanks in advance.
Cool I hope you will like it. It's a long one this time 🙄
Insanely beautiful!! I’m so happy I came across your channel
Thank you! Tack! Dank U! Love this Tune. Always wanted to see You cover NAIMA, Thanks!
this video is pure gold!! So much information to work with Thanksss!!
In reference to the Bret Willmont book - He's a Berklee guy. An extremely accomplished musician and teacher ... He was my teacher, .. I am grateful
Wow that's cool. I'm studying that book at the moment. 🙂
Very very usefull! Many ideas combined to start to imprivise on the guitar in a modern and powerfull way. Tank you. william
glad you like it 😁
I actually like your bossa nova take on Naima and your soloing over the chords. It gives it a Pat Metheny covers John Coltrane feel.
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You should check out the Steve Lukather version
My exact thoughts. A modal piece like this fits. And the solo is spot on.
Excellent lesson, thank you.
So clearly explained, so rational, Thank you so much ! Best video about guitar improvisation so far !
Thank you so much!
In the original recording, I love Wynton Kelly's piano solo, where he uses major triads. I will try to imitate that on guitar.
That's a good idea... to check out his playing. I had a teacher that used to say: "why do you ask me? Listen to the original recording and figure it out yourself"
DANG DUDE! BEAUTIFUL tone! Love your sound! Really intriguing video!
A great tune to work on. Thanks for going over this. It seems to be a song that can be approached in many different ways. I'm still working on it decades after first hearing and attempting to play it. Thank you so much for your insights and viewpoints. I'm back to working on this great tune once again. :0)
Thank you so much, Mikko!Very tasteful
Thanks! Glad you liked it
Hi Mikko, merely to proove you how serious I take your extended arpeggio;s I think you forgot the Bb713b9 you wrote in the upper octave a Bb, of course you meant a c..Very impressive video, the way you play your musicality the way you show that everything is in the modes, and how you prove it Great again..
Such lush chords, so many great colors. This is hugely helpful lesson, thanks Mikko! How’s the D’Angelico? It sounds great! What are you playing through and do I detect a hint of delay?
Thanks. I'm loving the guitar. I have been playing it a lot. I'm playing through my Quilter 101. Using both delay and reverb. 🙂
This is a lovely guitar. My favourite colour. Your videos are great 😊
Thank you. I'm very happy with the guitar.
How about a video on the Serious Jazz Practise Book by Barry Finnerty?
You saved my day!
So freaking cool!
Cosmologie. And Great playing. Thanks a lot
Very Cool!😎
Thank You 🙏🏼 💗🎼💗🙏🏼
Thanks, it is very helpful to me
Cool! Easy like riding bike. 2 pedals and of we go! What trumpet you got behind you?
It's a cheap yamaha, I used to play when I was young and thought I should pick it up again but it's too hard 😢
Hi, Mikko, good video. I might have missed it but what happened to the DM7#5 which is in most versions? It somehow got changed to E7#11 which are quite different notes. Thanks.
Dmaj7(#5) over E is the same thing as E7#11. Using a Dmaj7(#5) shape is a great way to create an E7(#11) voicing. Remember also that there is a Bb pedal happening so the New Real Book says Dmaj7(#5)/Bb I think and the old real book says E7(#11) but it's essentially the same thing. I can't remember if I explain this in the video it's been so long
@@Mikkokosmos Yes, it's been long! But why put it over E? The Bb pedal is the #5 so that's okay but I don't see the two chords are similar. DM7#5 is D F# A# C# and E7#11 is E G# B D (A# pedal). Are they the same? I know the old book and the new book are different and everybody hates the old book. Strangely I prefer the B7/A7 to all those M7 chords :-)
the extended arpeggio's I'd like them to start also from the 7th...
4 bars move in 4th...
B,A to Ab chromatic depending to the 1
New axe sounds sweet.
Is my real book wrong, or can I just not transpose? His chords in the last 2 bars of A section are:
B7b11 - A7b11- Abmaj7
while mine are:
Gbmaj7/C- Emaj7/C -Fmaj7/C
so transposed this would be
Amaj7/Eb - Gmaj7/Eb - Abmaj7/Eb
Or am i doing something wrong?
yes don't I explain that in the video? I hope I did. Amaj7b5/B is the same thing as B7#11. I dont know what b11 is? Should be #11. If your Real Book says b11 it's wrong. And then you add the bass pedal Eb to the mix. That's why it's confusing.
Hey man thanks for this lesson. I'm a bassist, but I generally get all my harmonic information and ideas from guitarists and sax players. So I have a question. With regard to the extended arpeggios, I'm looking at the 2nd measure of the "B" section that has the Bb Half Whole diminished arpeggio. You have an E natural written into the sheet music, which would give you a #11. The melody of the tune has an "Eb" in that measure, which is a natural 11. Why would you use the E natural, instead of the Eb? Personally I like the idea of the Eb better (for now) since it just creates a Cb Aug triad stacked on top of a Bb7. It lays better under my hand rather than playing that 4th interval of Cb(B) to E. Let me know what you think.
Good question. I guess when I hear the 13(b9) sound I automatically hear symmetrical diminished. That Eb is not a resting note there just in passing. But yes you could play a mixo b9 scale I guess? Not very often talked about I guess it's a mode of the harmonic major scale. Eb harmonic major. The Eb tends to be considered an avoid note on dominant chords because it clashes with the third.
@@Mikkokosmos thank you for that information. There's still a lot I have to figure out and I wasn't really aware of symmetrical diminished scales. Also I thought the fourth was an avoid note only on major 7th chords but not the dominants But that makes sense, because it's still a major third. I will investigate this further. Maybe I'll make a point not to hang on the Eb lol.Thanks so much for your time!
In my Real Book, the last chord of B part is indicated as an Gb7 (9/13) and I try to play the Db dorian scale over it, but... doesn't sound very well to me.
However, you play an Emaj7. Could you please explain enithing about this.
Thanks.
Same thing as with the earlier chords. If you play an Emaj7b5 on the piano with your left hand and put an F# in the bass you get an F#13 chord. Not sure where you get the dorian scale from? 🤔
@@Mikkokosmos Thanks. I think majors b5 doesen't exist. I name them as augmented 4 or +11
@@Pedraforta yes but an #11 chord can contain the regular fifth as well. In this case I think it's better to think of the voicing as a Maj7b5 since we don't want the regular fifth 🤠
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sorry I made mistake you wrote B of course the b9 I was mistaken Please forgive me for my remark...
so I mean then this 16th'shape 7 1 3 5 II 7 9 11 13 II 11 9 7 5 II 3 5 7 9 of course literally the 7th doesn't belong there in the beginning...I've got this from Eef Albers he plays this over Zeg 'ns Aaa ending of the program(dutch Broadcast comedy)
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It’s named after his daughter.
@@ganazby oh I was not aware of that