Hows ur posture rn? 👀 Also, yes, the channel name changed. We explained why here: answerinprogress.com/newsletter *EDIT:* I hear what y'all are saying about being disappointed with this video. I considered making an in-depth exploration of posture but ultimately, it veered too close to me (baby) giving medical advice and it made me uncomfortable. So, the video became more about drawing a line between the physical benefits of good posture and the unnecessary social noise. I believe that healthy posture is valuable and achievable through awareness and exercise; I just think individuals should be able to decide what is right for their bodies.
I just started watching, but honestly the title is calling me out XD I've been thinking and worrying about this topic quite often recently. And I'm sure the video will be awesome as always 💕
the best posture you can have is the one that allows you to move about. sitting straight at a desk isn't inherently better than any other posture as long as you are changing you position around and getting up every so often.
"sitting straight at a desk isn't inherently better than any other posture" This is just plain wrong. If you sit with a hunched back, you are straining your lower back which can result in a prolapsed intervertebral disc. If you spend the same time sitting "properly" you won't have that problem. Of course no matter how you sit, sitting is sitting but there are qualitative differences between the way you sit.
@@DaGhost141 Forgot to mention I have a degree in Kinesiology/Physiotherapy. A slouched posture while sitting can aggravate a hernia cause by something else, that is completely true, but it's extremely unlikely to cause it by itself. For normal-healthy individuals there is no true scientific consensus on the slouching-in-your-chair-is-bad theory, what HAS been proven is that the main problem is holding posture that tenses your muscles for a prolonged time and not the posture it self. If you maintain a relaxed posture, move about in your chair, get up and walk.. you should be good. Muscles need movement for a correct flow of oxygen and nutrients, and if your all tense trying to hold a straight back that's not helpful either. The best way to combat nearly all early signs of chronic back pain pretty much boils down to movement. Hope that helps :)
@@gominuke " If you maintain a relaxed posture, move about in your chair, get up and walk.. you should be good." Definitely, imo a good chair really helps with this tho, obviously sitting straight fully tensed up is bad, but if you can sit up "properly" without much effort then it is defnitely better than being slouched forward. Especially for your lower back. My mom has been a physiotherapist too for many years, so I have at least basic understading too. (+ I studied a medicine related field for a while)
"Working ergonomically" inherently involves posture. As an ergonomic consultant, one of the central concepts is to put people in a good posture. Any posture held too long is going to be bad for you, but there's a world of difference between the outcomes of an overall good and bad posture. Your physio should know where their expertise starts and ends.
@@BillyKamp It really doesn't. There are several meta-analyses out there showing a link between posture and pain. Even without those studies, it's basic biomechanics. If you put your neck or back in a position where the muscles need to apply more torque to maintain that posture they will fatigue more quickly, and eventually there will be damage to those chronically fatigued tissues.
My dad was obsessed with posture to the point where I had to wear a back brace everyday (even in summer) in hopes of making my back straight (and my neck longer). Paradoxically he doesn't think women can do sports or should stand too tall /shrug in confusion. Once I left home and started going to the gym and lift heavier I developed the muscles on my back that naturally pulled my shoulders back. I don't need to think about "stand up straight" because my body finally had to strength to stand comfortably. Years of back brace and getting yelled at when I could have just made do with some exercise lol.
Dang! I wore a back brace (had a curved spine or scoliosis) but the first thing I did was exercise sadly it didn’t fix things since me growing still at the time made my curve worse which is what led to need for a brace! But it’s weird that you wouldn’t think of exercise first a brace can’t do all the work for you! Anyways I’m glad your back is fine now in the end lol and doesn’t need to rely on a brace!
I'm really tall, so hunching down to fit in a tiny world has plagued me since puberty. I actually had to go through physical therapy as a teenager because it was hurting my back so much. I still really struggle with maintaining good posture, but a few years ago I decided to wage war on the tiny world that has caused me so much pain. I made my kitchen counters 7" taller than standard, my bathroom vanity 5" taller than standard, and my dining room table 4" taller than standard. I also insist on having my desk raised by several inches whenever I start a new job. Existing in an environment that's _my_ size makes a huge difference. It really shows the importance of equipment that's adjustable to the user's body.
That’s crazy, I’ve never considered how most things are built for average sized people. If even I feel uncomfortable in places like airplanes sometimes, I can’t imagine how you must feel. How tall are you?
Omg. If I didn't have a wife that was 5' 6" and kids I would totally do this. Cooking or doing dishes always makes my back hurt. I constantly think about how just raising the counter four inches would make huge difference.
@@cosmic_drewFor shared spaces it must be especially difficult. Have you ever tried doing stationery chores sit down on a chair or something, doing the dishes shouldn't require to keep stand out honestly.
Same man; tall guy in a short world. Nothing is ever the right height; I have to make it the right height. I'm not even that much taller than normal, just 6'1"!
tl;dr "I willingly subjected myself to literal cyberbulling whenever I slouch, and I discovered that one's humanity is, in fact, not dependent on how straight you sit"
The way this channel manages to find entire academic books on such niche topics like "posture" and "olive oil" and "daily planners" keeps me coming back.
i love this video!! i work with a body coach because i also have pain in my back and knees and he’s real careful about not pushing “good” posture because he’s like ahhh... there is no good and bad it’s just that movement makes you feel better end if anything he’s about a neutral spin but he’s also like the goal is just to have less pain so whatever gets you there. anyway this video passes the vibe check
1. Staying in any one position for too long is unhealthy - doesn't matter if it's straight or not. 2. When you use a laptop on the table, if you try to straighten your back, you actually strain your neck/eyes even more by having to look down. You can't win - laptops are just bad ergonomics. The healthiest thing to do is take a lot of breaks. 3. Good posture matters for exercise such as running or weightlifting. To prevent injury. 4. If you've been sitting for a long time, stretch out and relax a few minutes BEFORE you start exercising. That way, you won't get injured from hours of stiffness.
at 6:02 she says "allowing my spine to flop around like an uncooked spaghetti noodle", surely an uncooked spaghetti noodle would be totoally straight and hard
I did ballroom dancing high school and had to have "good posture" for it. Mostly that good posture actually wound up hurting my back somehow. I think a good posture is just whatever doesn't make your back hurt, because the human spine was a mistake
@@carolinemcgovern4488 And the knee! The knee is my personal pick for worst human body part, but I'm biased because I have a torn ACL and meniscus from high gym class, of all things
"i don't like sitting up straight. alright? it's never gonna happen. if meditating was sitting hunched over on the toilet with your elbow on your knee while kind of looking at your phone, i'd be the dalai lama." - john mulaney
"Oh, so when the yoga instructor twists themselves into an unsustainable position for the average person they're 'innovating' and 'exercising' and 'unlocking their chakras' but when I do it I'm 'playing god with my spine' and 'need to see someone about my pretzel bones', that sounds fair"
massage therapist weigh in: a lot of folks have muscle imbalances from day to day life. the muscles in the front of our bodies are used or held in shorted position for long periods of time and very few of us do much to involve our back muscles, so they end up over stretched and weakened. Depression and stress can also cause people to kinda fold in on themselves :( When this starts causing pain it can help to do these posture exercises, get up and move, pay more attention to your ergonomics etc. After working on these things and clearing up some really bad chronic neck pain I had, I let myself shrimp up at my desk these days lol. F*** eugenics, I just don't want to see people in pain.
@@ThereIsNoHorseInTheAtlas Hi! Rowing and pull ups (start with variations appropriate to ur fitness level of course). I'm not a trainer but hybrid calisthenics might be a good place to start, they have a good free program and show how to start doing exercises in ways that won't get you hurt
I have depression and will start hunching forward when my mood drops. The amount of times I've realized this and stoof up straight then felt my mood improve has been annoying a lot lol
One thing that anyone who reads anything about history needs to understand is that there are a lot of people we would today recognize as terrible that still have worthwhile ideas in other areas, and even good ideas that they took way too far and held for not just the wrong reasons, but downright terrible ones.
On the bright side, because of how recent those terrible ideas are, I have hope that humanity will leave them behind in the near future(200 years or less from now).
@@WanderTheNomad nah there's a much longer history they derived ideas from. Eugenicist crap in "the west" goes back to at least the ancient Greek philosophers.
@@siginotmylastname3969 Still, they didn't pop back up until the 19th century, which is pretty recent. I imagine it would be a lot harder to leave these ideas behind if we were following them since ancient greece because of how normalized they would be.
I go by the belief that every good idea or belief or moral that someone has is most likely going to be cancelled out by another trait of theirs. There's no such thing as a perfect human (hell, chidi from the good place is the ideal example of how torturous trying to be that is) because being good at everything is impossible, all you can be is the best you can accomplish within your lifetime. You can have human rights activists who are terrible about pollution, or authors who are into eugenics or transphobia (coughJKRowlingcough) or therapists who believe in cults (my psychiatrist recently tried to push me into one 😬) or animal rights activists who try to commit genocide (Hitler, anyone? Man thought he was doing what was best for his country). Being a intelligent person and being a good person are never synonymous, because they have basically nothing to do with each other. Each building block that makes up a person exists as an individual piece, together they can make amazing painters like Van Gogh, but they can also make abusive people, cult leaders, and murderers. Discarding people for ever having a "bad take" isn't how it should work, like, I don't go to taylor swift for ideas about environmental activism, I go to Greta Thunberg/others in that field. I don't go to James Charles for amazing poetry + literary dissection, I go to a poet or an English professor. Yes, you shouldn't feel required to support people who don't hold the same values as you, and yes, public figures should be responsible for their influences, but, you shouldn't be getting your moral compass/values from a singular figure ? Especially not a pop culture figure? And, you can exist with nuance. You can like someone's music and dislike them personally, so you let their music play on the radio but refuse to purchase it, you don't have to get them shut down, unless they are using their platform to actively promote their harmful messages? Like, a band includes a p*do r*pist lead singer? I'm not gonna listen to them whenever I have control of the music. But I'm not gonna throw a fit in Wal-Mart bc their song is playing over the speaker, unless the songs lyrics are like, about a young innocent women being educated about s*x and how appealing the singer finds her lack of experience? If the song is about, like, partying, and getting drunk that's fine.
Yet im almost 13 and the back pain is in my left shoulder and left side and i dunno how to fix it. (Probably from wearing backpacks with laptops and books and pencils and journals)
@@chocrush1190 i swear I'm in yr 10 and since yr 7 always used the ebook pdf on my laptops, imagine a young 13 yr old (yr 7) Carrying their laptop+ 4kg or more of books in one bag 'education' amirite
As someone who uses a wheelchair and literally cannot stand up straight, this video hits different, some days I feel like my life is just a posture check. As a kid I was measured constnatly by wheelchair specialists and physios and although a lot of that stops when you stop growing and become an adult but I often bend and twist whilst speaking due to my disabillity and just every so often that insecurity creeps into my life. For me that insecurity isn't anywhere near constant but keep in mind that for many it is: Sometimes a curvy spine can't be helped. Shoutout to all the bendy spine frends out there.
I'm chronically ill and my posture has completely developed from curling up in a ball from pain... And that's fine. It works for me. I sleep well when I'm curled up! I put pressure on myself to 'fix' it, but why? To make other people happy? Screw that. I know I have developed some level of scoliosis too, but I have WAY higher priorities on a day-to-day basis. Love coming at you, my bendy spine friend.
Every time you say "let me explain" it's like a whole shot of excitement - I absolutely love your videos!! You're such a brilliant and hilarious role model for me, thanks for making so much amazing content! Can't wait for the next one :)
alright, here's why your back started to hurt a bit less after sitting up straight. You aren't proving the eugenicists right: it's actually just your muscles. You are using muscles that you don't normally use when you started sitting up straight, and are essentially giving back muscles you don't normally use a workout. Your back muscles hold up the weight of your entire body, and you feel the pain of this from day to day. I learned this from physical therapy, if you're anything like me, then your back muscles are probably underdeveloped because you don't specifically exercise them, and you spend a lot of time sitting at a desk. This means you should probably get up once in a while and do some stretching, not necessarily change your posture. However, unlike you I also have back pain because I have comically large breasts, so it is easier to get surgery than to have proportionally comically oversized back muscles, so take this advice with a grain of salt because everybody is different and can have back pain for a myriad of reasons.
I worked on my posture for YRS and nothin ever worked. Even with professional physical therapy, back pods, electronic devices etc. After yrs of thinking I’m lazy or a slouch, I find out I have Ankylosing Spondylitis…. And was being pulled forward. So yes, actively working on my posture was probably beneficial, but posture was the actual problem. Also I am looking into reduction cause I’m now a DDD+… or is that E! Idek. I can’t fit in the ones I find in store anymore so idk where to go from there. (This comment is 3 months old so that’s probably way too much information)
Posture seems to just be a social benefit more than anything else. I've been told fairly frequently that I seem confident and outgoing, when I'm absolutely not (but can fake it for a bit before I run out of social energy) and when I've asked my female friends why they think that the most common answer is "the way you hold yourself" which is just shorthand for "You stand up straight, shoulders back, chin up". For men at least it's seen as a sign of confidence and power, and confidence is used as a second hand measure for competence (but we all know very confident people can easily be bumbling doofs) The only reason I do stand like that also is because as a teenager I got teased for walking with a very slouched forward leaning posture so I spent a few years as a teen sleeping straight on my back on the hard floor to "fix it" so I think my bones just grew into that posture. Arguably probably pretty unhealthy to do that in hindsight.
Posture is a cultural thing as you say, and as such, it IS important, until people stop thinking that standing up straight means you're confident. So it's not particularly a healthy thing to do, but if we want to "do well" in some circles, it's gonna matter within our cultures...
As someone who works every day with the sort of electronics you put together in this video: that shit is hard, even when you are working with parts others have put together to be as simple as possible. You got it to work, so you are doing better than most people who do it for a job.
Wow! It's almost the same feeling in school, school wants us to like studying, but all we feel is "sorry i look so uninterested, i'm trying not to make my dad mad"
I wish you talked more about the recent studies that say that movement is better than posture, our body was made to move! I'm a physical therapist and totally going to check that book out. Great video as always!
4:00 this part right here. Anyone who has a background in any subject knows, that you don’t shit on the newbies. Everyone started from the position, and telling someone how bad they are instead of correcting them, is the opposite of what you’d like to accomplish. unless you’re a shitty person
Oh man, I’m at the opposite of the spectrum. I broke my back as a kid and my only comfortable position - seated or standing - is with what is considered perfect posture. Oh the abuse and ribbing I receive from friends and coworkers alike. Snooty, stick-up-my-butt, perfectionist is the view most have of me, but I can’t conform to the shouchy norm without pain. Of course, I see those around me subtly shift to taller around me though and I think it’s funny - even though I don’t mention it.
It might seem like posture/ergonomics don't matter when you're "young" but at 28 I've had the habit of resting my wrist while using a mouse my whole life and it's finally caught up with me in an RSI.
I think more than anything, I like the process of learning in the video. I could stand these new videos, because I like the change of pace. I also appreciate the effort of research. Never heard how much went into keeping a back straight. One person I knew said their parent said, "only ugly people slouch," to keep them from slouching. I think you justified my journey of straightening my own back :)
*Hot take that nobody needs*:Morality and philosophy of posture is one of the most human things I have ever come across and I'm a little salty about that
Working indoors from Covid has definitely worsened my posture, I really loved this video and could relate! Also the immigrant parent in my head screamed at the title
I have 3 herniated discs from poor posture caused by a back injury caused by wearing very high heels in my younger years. Exercises and being aware of my posture are the things that make me able to function somewhat normally. Good posture keeps me mostly pain free.
@@distortedmist It was mostly wearing high heels. Four inches or higher. I did have a fall in my teens that caused knee problems. Wearing high heels threw my posture out of alignment. That along with compensating for my knee made it worse. It wouldn't be so bad now if I'd stuck to flats or low heels. When I see young women in high heels today, I cringe knowing what their future may be like.
Sometimes poor posture can be a sign of an underlying medical condition, if you do all you can to correct it and nothing works. One thing posture is never, is a character flaw.
Get a lumbar support cushion for your desk chair! I love having a cushion like this that attaches to my chair. I can move it right to where by back curves, and it's so much more comfortable! It makes sitting up straight not hurt. I also have a small rectangle pillow to put behind my back when sitting on the couch.
I used to be made fun of for having 'too good' posture because apparently sitting up perfectly straight is weird for a 6 year old, but required for being a person.
Heh, what's weird is growing up I had the "perfect posture" because of my Grandmother, a 1940's charm school graduate (yes, we were one of THOSE families), but as I gained weight (and puberty), adjusting for more forward weight means slubbing a bit with a back sway. Now it feel BETTER. 🤷🏼♀️
Bad posture can kill. Kyphosis increases risks of all sorts of health complications as the organs are squished closer and closer together by the arching of the back, leading to reduced lung capacity among other things.
Do not let the politics of the past ruin things in the present, even if politicized, not so much "the benefits of a straight back" but "the disadvantages of a slouch spine" should be enough excuse to try and improve yourself and your health.
So far, every video I've watched, I have shared with SOME friend or friends. Love the work you guys do! Please do not ever stop educating yourselves in this way, and educating us like this too, this format of delivery and information sharing is absolutely wonderful. Sending you guys all the best vibes and best of health, whatever that is for you!
I don't think you need to stress about stupid people wanting good posture for stupid reasons. "The stupidest, evilest person in the world says it's raining; therefore, the sun is shining" isn't a valid syllogism. Or another way of saying the same thing: 16/64 = 16̵/6̵4 = 1/4 The argument is invalid; you can't cancel out digits like that. But by coincidence the conclusion that 16/64 = 1/4 happens to be true. There's no need to feel guilty about accurate proofs that 16/64 = 1/4, just because there's a flawed argument out there.
As someone who really struggles with posture I loved this video🥺 Sometimes I feel like I might never be able to fix it. That kind of relieved the pressure.
@@bassgebrummel9048 Actually no. Idk if the title changed in the last 10 minutes, but right now it's "Why bad posture is actually fine", and the AI one is "how to fix your posture" (checked it) But yes, it's the posture video
@@bassgebrummel9048 *but,* the video idea didn't come from Tom's video - watch it and you'll realise that _we found out this video was already in the works_ because Tom's AI suggested a title that would relate to this, then we found out this video was in development
My only thing about posture is that because of our stationary lives, especially right now (Toronto's just getting out of lockdown), actively strong posture is a demonstration of the bare minimum core strength that is necessary to help avoid [preventable] back, shoulder, and hip pain and injuries. I'm a dancer and the overly upright posture we use is actually an overcorrected state that is just as bad in the long term as chronic slouching (if you get in the habit of living your life in that shape instead of finding your 'normal' outside of class). I applaud you for staying away from giving medical advice because by just opening the conversation, you've allowed people to begin to do their own research and consult their personal medical teams for best practices 💜
I fixed my posture b/c looking at someone with both good and bad posture is like a reminder to posture now… it works, if you are in a place with people a lot. Offices, customer service, school(rooms not online), your house with siblings
Corsets aren't solely about posture. They are actually a very supportive garment when fitted correctly. Much like wearing a properly fitted bra. All the weight of "the girls" is distributed to the hips through the boning in the corset. Corsets are great for women who are bigger and heavier and need more support than a bra can provide. There is a reason they were popular from 15th century until the fairly recent early 19th century. They aren't the "torture device" that people claim they are.
I'm always really concerned about my posture because of my great grandmother. By the end of her life her spine was a C. She couldn't look up. This made me feel...a little better. I shouldn't stress, just try to stop hunching lol.
Listen i get that the history of "good posture" is full of ableism and classism but that does not negate the long term health benefits of good posture and the importance of taking care of your spine (i'm a radiographer so i see old people with awfully hunched backs that cause them great pain and it is no longer an option for them to just straighten up.) The fact that you felt morally conflicted doing something that was literally bringing your back muscles relief, just because the people who initially encouraged good posture were horrible and had horrible motivations for it, is frankly just petty. Yes we should talk about the morally complicated history of medicine, but do not turn a genuine health concern into a moral dilemma and try to justify bad posture as "actually not that bad" just to disagree with bigots of the past. Yes, disabled people or folks without access to health care should not be shamed for bad posture, but that doesn't mean it should be dismissed or even enabled in people who are otherwise healthy and do have the access to the tools to improve their posture.
Honestly agree I thought this would talk about health. I mean in the end if your damaging your mental health maybe it’s not worth to work so hard to achieve perfect posture and obsess over it. However I’m not getting the guilt she’s feeling for seeing improvements in health because of better posture! (Unless you suddenly treat people worse because of their posture or acted bigoted yourself those people are dead and you can support good posture while condemning history) that’s just like cancelling medicine for testing on animals or other advancements getting cancelled because of past human cruelty! She’s not glossing over the dark past though as long as we all acknowledge history we can make sure not to repeat it so! And yeah I like you said we shouldn’t shame other people for their decisions because in the end we don’t know their life or problems or barriers to accessing something! Still I have bad posture myself and I’m not very dilligent about fixing it so I won’t be a hypocrite but the title was pretty misleading
Agree. The way she had to justify that “bad posture isnt that bad” just because those who encouraged good posture were awful people is really illogical. Science doesnt align with your moral, it’s aligned with facts.
Yeah I'm 25 and my back started hurting like 1 month ago due to bad posture. And she's saying it isn't bad? Get out I'm literally hurting because of it
This reminds me of when I was younger, I had some back issues and the doctor told me I just had bad posture, probably because I slouched during the x-ray out of pure discomfort. So I went to the hospital and had all these tests for someone to tell me to sit up. It did help a bit, but it did not fix the fact that my spine curved when bent over and I still have excruciating pain in the middle of my back if I lay on my stomach and prop my head on my hands lol. Instead, it helped me get shoulders buff enough to withstand my new boobs and a lot of people accusing me of "sticking them out even though they're already big" so...I feel you.
2:30 and so maybe it's because I wanna reduce the tension in my back or because I wanna get my head closer to the sky...I dunno that's life right there
Still loving your videos. I’ve been around since you were announced a Nerd Factor winner to replace John Green on paternity leave 8 years ago this week! That posture machine is hilarious. Also, I feel that former-gifted-kid-just-trying-to-be-a vaguely competent-young-adult vibe in my bones.
When I was a child my parent would tell me that if my posture was bad they would buy me a beeping thing that would beep whenever my posture got bad. I never believed that something like this existed. Until you created this machine straight from my nightmares.
My coworker is a standing desk evangelist and I get their reasoning about posture and focus, but I am stubborn and refuse to perform even more productivity than I have to at work than I already do
I've found a lot more success improving my posture through exercise than constantly focusing on sitting up straight. The Athlean-X RUclips channel has a 15-minute posture workout. It was a pain to do, but I was amazed at the results. I just naturally had good posture and felt uncomfortable if I went back to my old slouch.
When watching this video, I was a bit disappointed. I came to see if there was an argument against "good posture" in it's relation to improving health and/or would show that it actually gives negative results. What was shown in this video was arguments from Aesthetics, History, and Philosophy. But where's the Health??!? Keep in mind, this does not mean I dislike the topics that were discussed. I find it very interesting to get insight on the cultural and historical background of how and where these topics sprung from, it's initial popularization, and how it was utilized to justify racial biases of their times. Nor do I take issue with the philosophical reasonings. My issue lies in the fact that there was no information in this video that focused on it's health benifits or lack thereof. Ironically, it seems that you actually premote posture correction in a health aspect on the count that you mentioned that, in such a short period of time, you were able to loosen tention off your back. Again, I am not Entirely disappointed with the topics that were chosen. But whyyy was there no information on health? I'm sure most individuals in modern culture are more concerned with how it affects your health rather than care about how one looks or how "polite", "gentlemenly", "high class", "high society" or whatever reasons people are generally not concerned with or should concern themselves with anymore in this day and age. Rather than dismissing it based on how it was initially utilized and it's initial reasonings in a historical context or on the argument of aesthetics. I wish you would, if you could, make a follow up video that specifically goes into the topic of whether or not it actually improves or worsens health. I'm sure people would like to see the results of that. If you read this, thank you for taking your time to listen to what I have to say.
Hows ur posture rn? 👀 Also, yes, the channel name changed. We explained why here: answerinprogress.com/newsletter
*EDIT:* I hear what y'all are saying about being disappointed with this video. I considered making an in-depth exploration of posture but ultimately, it veered too close to me (baby) giving medical advice and it made me uncomfortable. So, the video became more about drawing a line between the physical benefits of good posture and the unnecessary social noise. I believe that healthy posture is valuable and achievable through awareness and exercise; I just think individuals should be able to decide what is right for their bodies.
I just started watching, but honestly the title is calling me out XD I've been thinking and worrying about this topic quite often recently.
And I'm sure the video will be awesome as always 💕
I bought a stand up desk so I can hunch even further forward to watch RUclips on my phone while I work
Not gud
WAIT- I just noticed you changed the channel's name to Answer in Progress... I kinda like it :))
Hello Answer in Progress
the best posture you can have is the one that allows you to move about. sitting straight at a desk isn't inherently better than any other posture as long as you are changing you position around and getting up every so often.
I get up everytime I need to visit the toilet or go to the fridge. Does that count?
yeah a physiotherapist told me she preferred patients sit in many different "bad" postures" than in one good posture all the time.
"sitting straight at a desk isn't inherently better than any other posture"
This is just plain wrong. If you sit with a hunched back, you are straining your lower back which can result in a prolapsed intervertebral disc. If you spend the same time sitting "properly" you won't have that problem. Of course no matter how you sit, sitting is sitting but there are qualitative differences between the way you sit.
@@DaGhost141 Forgot to mention I have a degree in Kinesiology/Physiotherapy. A slouched posture while sitting can aggravate a hernia cause by something else, that is completely true, but it's extremely unlikely to cause it by itself. For normal-healthy individuals there is no true scientific consensus on the slouching-in-your-chair-is-bad theory, what HAS been proven is that the main problem is holding posture that tenses your muscles for a prolonged time and not the posture it self. If you maintain a relaxed posture, move about in your chair, get up and walk.. you should be good. Muscles need movement for a correct flow of oxygen and nutrients, and if your all tense trying to hold a straight back that's not helpful either. The best way to combat nearly all early signs of chronic back pain pretty much boils down to movement. Hope that helps :)
@@gominuke " If you maintain a relaxed posture, move about in your chair, get up and walk.. you should be good."
Definitely, imo a good chair really helps with this tho, obviously sitting straight fully tensed up is bad, but if you can sit up "properly" without much effort then it is defnitely better than being slouched forward. Especially for your lower back.
My mom has been a physiotherapist too for many years, so I have at least basic understading too. (+ I studied a medicine related field for a while)
"posture doesn't fucking matter as long as you're working ergonomically and paying attention to what feels good for your body"
- My physiotherapist
I am a Physio, agree 100% with yours.
Ya wet noodle
Lol jk I just wanted to say that
"Working ergonomically" inherently involves posture. As an ergonomic consultant, one of the central concepts is to put people in a good posture. Any posture held too long is going to be bad for you, but there's a world of difference between the outcomes of an overall good and bad posture. Your physio should know where their expertise starts and ends.
@@spencermcgregor6557 Saying that there are bad postures shows that lacks science behind those bold claims.
@@BillyKamp It really doesn't. There are several meta-analyses out there showing a link between posture and pain. Even without those studies, it's basic biomechanics. If you put your neck or back in a position where the muscles need to apply more torque to maintain that posture they will fatigue more quickly, and eventually there will be damage to those chronically fatigued tissues.
My dad was obsessed with posture to the point where I had to wear a back brace everyday (even in summer) in hopes of making my back straight (and my neck longer). Paradoxically he doesn't think women can do sports or should stand too tall /shrug in confusion. Once I left home and started going to the gym and lift heavier I developed the muscles on my back that naturally pulled my shoulders back. I don't need to think about "stand up straight" because my body finally had to strength to stand comfortably. Years of back brace and getting yelled at when I could have just made do with some exercise lol.
Wow. That's intense. I'm glad things are better now
Yeah. Our bodies want to be strong and flexible not rigid and externally supported.
Glad you got past his nonsense.
🥺 that sounds horrible, I'm sorry you were put through that
Dang! I wore a back brace (had a curved spine or scoliosis) but the first thing I did was exercise sadly it didn’t fix things since me growing still at the time made my curve worse which is what led to need for a brace! But it’s weird that you wouldn’t think of exercise first a brace can’t do all the work for you! Anyways I’m glad your back is fine now in the end lol and doesn’t need to rely on a brace!
Your dad sounds insane wtf
I'm really tall, so hunching down to fit in a tiny world has plagued me since puberty. I actually had to go through physical therapy as a teenager because it was hurting my back so much.
I still really struggle with maintaining good posture, but a few years ago I decided to wage war on the tiny world that has caused me so much pain. I made my kitchen counters 7" taller than standard, my bathroom vanity 5" taller than standard, and my dining room table 4" taller than standard. I also insist on having my desk raised by several inches whenever I start a new job. Existing in an environment that's _my_ size makes a huge difference. It really shows the importance of equipment that's adjustable to the user's body.
That’s crazy, I’ve never considered how most things are built for average sized people. If even I feel uncomfortable in places like airplanes sometimes, I can’t imagine how you must feel. How tall are you?
And bathtubs. You have to fold or stick out. The standard size is.. Much too small.
Omg. If I didn't have a wife that was 5' 6" and kids I would totally do this. Cooking or doing dishes always makes my back hurt. I constantly think about how just raising the counter four inches would make huge difference.
@@cosmic_drewFor shared spaces it must be especially difficult. Have you ever tried doing stationery chores sit down on a chair or something, doing the dishes shouldn't require to keep stand out honestly.
Same man; tall guy in a short world. Nothing is ever the right height; I have to make it the right height. I'm not even that much taller than normal, just 6'1"!
tl;dr "I willingly subjected myself to literal cyberbulling whenever I slouch, and I discovered that one's humanity is, in fact, not dependent on how straight you sit"
The way this channel manages to find entire academic books on such niche topics like "posture" and "olive oil" and "daily planners" keeps me coming back.
Since when was olive oil niche
Posture is not niche.
I still want to read the semicolon one
literally just read a paper on 'ethnophycology' which is the study of aglaes in a sociological context. you can find writing on ANYTHING
How is posture a niche subject?
i love this video!! i work with a body coach because i also have pain in my back and knees and he’s real careful about not pushing “good” posture because he’s like ahhh... there is no good and bad it’s just that movement makes you feel better end if anything he’s about a neutral spin but he’s also like the goal is just to have less pain so whatever gets you there. anyway this video passes the vibe check
Tessaaaaaa! I love you so much!
So true tessa bae
OMG. Queens gathering
Small note: Check the first chapter title, somone is having regrets
I was not expecting Tessa Violet here and I don't mind it
"I've never known someone could so wholly embody 'former gifted kid' as much as you do" Holy shiiiit omg
Right??? I'd consider her a 'reformed' formal gifted kid though
At least Sabrina didn't burn out (yet).
Not that I'm talking personally or anything >.>
@@Masahane Wasn't her video about "not being the smart kid anymore" exactly that breaking point?
@@falkyrie5228 haven't seen it so I'll look it up later. But yeah I wouldn't be shocked. Gifted kids burn out real quick once we leave school
@@Masahane Been there, done that.
1. Staying in any one position for too long is unhealthy - doesn't matter if it's straight or not.
2. When you use a laptop on the table, if you try to straighten your back, you actually strain your neck/eyes even more by having to look down. You can't win - laptops are just bad ergonomics. The healthiest thing to do is take a lot of breaks.
3. Good posture matters for exercise such as running or weightlifting. To prevent injury.
4. If you've been sitting for a long time, stretch out and relax a few minutes BEFORE you start exercising. That way, you won't get injured from hours of stiffness.
at 6:02 she says "allowing my spine to flop around like an uncooked spaghetti noodle", surely an uncooked spaghetti noodle would be totoally straight and hard
Been waiting for this since Tom Scott leaked it. Most hyped video of 2021
same
same LOL
When did this happen? I watch him too, but this went over my head
@@ray._.0004 it was from his "I asked an AI for video ideas for other RUclipsrs. It went badly." it was pretty funny.
Same
I did ballroom dancing high school and had to have "good posture" for it. Mostly that good posture actually wound up hurting my back somehow. I think a good posture is just whatever doesn't make your back hurt, because the human spine was a mistake
Also, everyone's different, so there is no universal "good posture" :)
I am dying at "the human spine was a mistake"
That ending was beautifully unexpected.
I agree with you on the mistake part. That is closely followed by the human foot.
@@carolinemcgovern4488 And the knee! The knee is my personal pick for worst human body part, but I'm biased because I have a torn ACL and meniscus from high gym class, of all things
"i don't like sitting up straight. alright? it's never gonna happen. if meditating was sitting hunched over on the toilet with your elbow on your knee while kind of looking at your phone, i'd be the dalai lama."
- john mulaney
"Oh, so when the yoga instructor twists themselves into an unsustainable position for the average person they're 'innovating' and 'exercising' and 'unlocking their chakras' but when I do it I'm 'playing god with my spine' and 'need to see someone about my pretzel bones', that sounds fair"
how does john mulaney always say everything so perfectly
Wtf I just read this in that exact position
I feel called out right now 😂
Dammit that man is a great comedian.
massage therapist weigh in: a lot of folks have muscle imbalances from day to day life. the muscles in the front of our bodies are used or held in shorted position for long periods of time and very few of us do much to involve our back muscles, so they end up over stretched and weakened. Depression and stress can also cause people to kinda fold in on themselves :( When this starts causing pain it can help to do these posture exercises, get up and move, pay more attention to your ergonomics etc. After working on these things and clearing up some really bad chronic neck pain I had, I let myself shrimp up at my desk these days lol. F*** eugenics, I just don't want to see people in pain.
Hi, can you give me a couple examples of what exercises I can do to strengthen the back muscles?
@@ThereIsNoHorseInTheAtlas Hi! Rowing and pull ups (start with variations appropriate to ur fitness level of course). I'm not a trainer but hybrid calisthenics might be a good place to start, they have a good free program and show how to start doing exercises in ways that won't get you hurt
I have depression and will start hunching forward when my mood drops. The amount of times I've realized this and stoof up straight then felt my mood improve has been annoying a lot lol
@@tomrogue13 LOL i also have depression and this is such a thing. it really is fake it til you make it out here :') I'm rooting for you
4:21 "I've never known someone could so wholly embody 'former gifted kid' as much as you do"
Describes me so perfectly that it physically hurts
"the video is an elaborate subtweet to my mom"
As someone who also has an Asian mom, I feel this.
"somewhat unsurprisingly, there was so much eugenics
Yes, I have new glasses", strange segue
Marie Stopes has joined the chat
Oh that's my name
is THAT how you spell segway????
@@user-insight yes, unless you're talking about the mall cop wheel vehicle, that's still a segway
@@user-insight yep, segway is the brand. I had to Google it lol
Sabrina saying "I am baby." was better recieved than I anticipated.
What would be a bad way to receive it?
@@ZipplyZane 😳
This channel is pure gold.
1:17 “History is never as far back as it feels.”
“It’s what separates man from ape”.
Me, a scientist: man is ape. I will slouch if I want
I will use that from now on, Man is ape so we'll slouch. I don't care.
reject modernity, return to monke
Le throwing dookie on the internet?
One thing that anyone who reads anything about history needs to understand is that there are a lot of people we would today recognize as terrible that still have worthwhile ideas in other areas, and even good ideas that they took way too far and held for not just the wrong reasons, but downright terrible ones.
On the bright side, because of how recent those terrible ideas are, I have hope that humanity will leave them behind in the near future(200 years or less from now).
A broken clock is right twice a day. Guilt by association bias. Don't kill the messenger.
All related ideas that support what you said.
@@WanderTheNomad nah there's a much longer history they derived ideas from. Eugenicist crap in "the west" goes back to at least the ancient Greek philosophers.
@@siginotmylastname3969 Still, they didn't pop back up until the 19th century, which is pretty recent. I imagine it would be a lot harder to leave these ideas behind if we were following them since ancient greece because of how normalized they would be.
I go by the belief that every good idea or belief or moral that someone has is most likely going to be cancelled out by another trait of theirs. There's no such thing as a perfect human (hell, chidi from the good place is the ideal example of how torturous trying to be that is) because being good at everything is impossible, all you can be is the best you can accomplish within your lifetime.
You can have human rights activists who are terrible about pollution, or authors who are into eugenics or transphobia (coughJKRowlingcough) or therapists who believe in cults (my psychiatrist recently tried to push me into one 😬) or animal rights activists who try to commit genocide (Hitler, anyone? Man thought he was doing what was best for his country). Being a intelligent person and being a good person are never synonymous, because they have basically nothing to do with each other. Each building block that makes up a person exists as an individual piece, together they can make amazing painters like Van Gogh, but they can also make abusive people, cult leaders, and murderers.
Discarding people for ever having a "bad take" isn't how it should work, like, I don't go to taylor swift for ideas about environmental activism, I go to Greta Thunberg/others in that field. I don't go to James Charles for amazing poetry + literary dissection, I go to a poet or an English professor. Yes, you shouldn't feel required to support people who don't hold the same values as you, and yes, public figures should be responsible for their influences, but, you shouldn't be getting your moral compass/values from a singular figure ? Especially not a pop culture figure? And, you can exist with nuance. You can like someone's music and dislike them personally, so you let their music play on the radio but refuse to purchase it, you don't have to get them shut down, unless they are using their platform to actively promote their harmful messages?
Like, a band includes a p*do r*pist lead singer? I'm not gonna listen to them whenever I have control of the music. But I'm not gonna throw a fit in Wal-Mart bc their song is playing over the speaker, unless the songs lyrics are like, about a young innocent women being educated about s*x and how appealing the singer finds her lack of experience? If the song is about, like, partying, and getting drunk that's fine.
4:31 That tweet is secretly the reason she changed her name.
that’s my tweet 😭💀
@@kekkaepifanio5949 good tweet
That was the best roast anyone could come up with.
The algorithm scares me, i literally just thought about that and i *NEVER* searched about it...
i got an ad for a body posture device before this
You know it's bad when the youth start feeling back pain.
*_coughs in oldness_*
I've had back pain since 1968, despite only being born in 2003
@@heinoustentacles5719 ay I was born in the same year
@@heinoustentacles5719 ...can u explain ??
Yet im almost 13 and the back pain is in my left shoulder and left side and i dunno how to fix it. (Probably from wearing backpacks with laptops and books and pencils and journals)
@@chocrush1190 i swear I'm in yr 10 and since yr 7 always used the ebook pdf on my laptops, imagine a young 13 yr old (yr 7) Carrying their laptop+ 4kg or more of books in one bag 'education' amirite
As someone who uses a wheelchair and literally cannot stand up straight, this video hits different, some days I feel like my life is just a posture check. As a kid I was measured constnatly by wheelchair specialists and physios and although a lot of that stops when you stop growing and become an adult but I often bend and twist whilst speaking due to my disabillity and just every so often that insecurity creeps into my life. For me that insecurity isn't anywhere near constant but keep in mind that for many it is: Sometimes a curvy spine can't be helped. Shoutout to all the bendy spine frends out there.
I'm chronically ill and my posture has completely developed from curling up in a ball from pain... And that's fine. It works for me. I sleep well when I'm curled up! I put pressure on myself to 'fix' it, but why? To make other people happy? Screw that. I know I have developed some level of scoliosis too, but I have WAY higher priorities on a day-to-day basis. Love coming at you, my bendy spine friend.
Every time you say "let me explain" it's like a whole shot of excitement - I absolutely love your videos!! You're such a brilliant and hilarious role model for me, thanks for making so much amazing content! Can't wait for the next one :)
I have no idea how you got on my feed, but I love your videos 👍
alright, here's why your back started to hurt a bit less after sitting up straight. You aren't proving the eugenicists right: it's actually just your muscles. You are using muscles that you don't normally use when you started sitting up straight, and are essentially giving back muscles you don't normally use a workout. Your back muscles hold up the weight of your entire body, and you feel the pain of this from day to day. I learned this from physical therapy, if you're anything like me, then your back muscles are probably underdeveloped because you don't specifically exercise them, and you spend a lot of time sitting at a desk. This means you should probably get up once in a while and do some stretching, not necessarily change your posture. However, unlike you I also have back pain because I have comically large breasts, so it is easier to get surgery than to have proportionally comically oversized back muscles, so take this advice with a grain of salt because everybody is different and can have back pain for a myriad of reasons.
Yikes, that sounds like a hassle. I hope you get things worked out (this comment is 2 months old so you probably did).
@@dragonfell5078 agreed (this comment is three days old so you probably already forgot)
@@pineapple5475 affirmative (this comment is 18 hours old so you probably got amnesia)
I worked on my posture for YRS and nothin ever worked. Even with professional physical therapy, back pods, electronic devices etc. After yrs of thinking I’m lazy or a slouch, I find out I have Ankylosing Spondylitis…. And was being pulled forward. So yes, actively working on my posture was probably beneficial, but posture was the actual problem. Also I am looking into reduction cause I’m now a DDD+… or is that E! Idek. I can’t fit in the ones I find in store anymore so idk where to go from there. (This comment is 3 months old so that’s probably way too much information)
i hope you have sorted your 'comically large' problem and have a better back :D
"to roast my spine" me immediately worried you crossed some wires and literally roasted your spine.
> I hate to put myself on blast for free
You damn near made an entire RUclips channel for it
STOP I LITERALLY GOT AN AD FOR A POSTURE CHECKER IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS VIDEO IM SCARED
Posture seems to just be a social benefit more than anything else. I've been told fairly frequently that I seem confident and outgoing, when I'm absolutely not (but can fake it for a bit before I run out of social energy) and when I've asked my female friends why they think that the most common answer is "the way you hold yourself" which is just shorthand for "You stand up straight, shoulders back, chin up".
For men at least it's seen as a sign of confidence and power, and confidence is used as a second hand measure for competence (but we all know very confident people can easily be bumbling doofs)
The only reason I do stand like that also is because as a teenager I got teased for walking with a very slouched forward leaning posture so I spent a few years as a teen sleeping straight on my back on the hard floor to "fix it" so I think my bones just grew into that posture. Arguably probably pretty unhealthy to do that in hindsight.
Instead of doofs I read idiots. I mean, I wasn't _fully_ incorrect right?
Posture is a cultural thing as you say, and as such, it IS important, until people stop thinking that standing up straight means you're confident. So it's not particularly a healthy thing to do, but if we want to "do well" in some circles, it's gonna matter within our cultures...
As someone who works every day with the sort of electronics you put together in this video: that shit is hard, even when you are working with parts others have put together to be as simple as possible. You got it to work, so you are doing better than most people who do it for a job.
5:44 “sorry I look so uncomfortable, I’m trying not to make the posture machine mad at me.” ..
Wow! It's almost the same feeling in school, school wants us to like studying, but all we feel is "sorry i look so uninterested, i'm trying not to make my dad mad"
I wish you talked more about the recent studies that say that movement is better than posture, our body was made to move! I'm a physical therapist and totally going to check that book out. Great video as always!
4:00 this part right here. Anyone who has a background in any subject knows, that you don’t shit on the newbies. Everyone started from the position, and telling someone how bad they are instead of correcting them, is the opposite of what you’d like to accomplish. unless you’re a shitty person
“Please don’t unsubscribe” *Immediately subscribed*
Legendary slow airhorn guns and a fun and fascinating video!
Your joke reminded me of thousands of repeated "do you underSTAND" jokes from middle school band and that caused 2d10 psychic damage thank you
Now your old people?
I play Kalashtar and I still felt that.
*jojo reference*
Oh man, I’m at the opposite of the spectrum. I broke my back as a kid and my only comfortable position - seated or standing - is with what is considered perfect posture. Oh the abuse and ribbing I receive from friends and coworkers alike. Snooty, stick-up-my-butt, perfectionist is the view most have of me, but I can’t conform to the shouchy norm without pain. Of course, I see those around me subtly shift to taller around me though and I think it’s funny - even though I don’t mention it.
Awh, that sucks. Hope you’re doing well now tho :D Don’t let what others say affect you…badly
Inspire the exercise of back muscles, stranger! I wish you health!
Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Dang.
At the end of the day, maybe people are Just Mean About Anything Different Than Exactly What They Do.
Well that's a good thing, isn't it? You have perfect posture. What's the issue? Other people's behavior? I think not.
It might seem like posture/ergonomics don't matter when you're "young" but at 28 I've had the habit of resting my wrist while using a mouse my whole life and it's finally caught up with me in an RSI.
Wait, you're not supposed to rest your wrist? Why was I never told this...
@@goldegreen Yeah I mean what are you supposed to do? Hold it in the air?
@@goldegreenShouldn't rest your wrist at the same time when it's working. Only rest it in breaks between working
The best sitting position is the next one.
Still my favourite quote, and I live by it
I think more than anything, I like the process of learning in the video. I could stand these new videos, because I like the change of pace. I also appreciate the effort of research. Never heard how much went into keeping a back straight. One person I knew said their parent said, "only ugly people slouch," to keep them from slouching. I think you justified my journey of straightening my own back :)
Excellent, now bi people don't have to worry as much.
About standing.... Straight?
Periodt 😜😜😜
Yay!
@@GoggleGum it's a joke about being bi..
@@GoggleGum It's a joke stereotype, mostly used in the bi community
*Hot take that nobody needs*:Morality and philosophy of posture is one of the most human things I have ever come across and I'm a little salty about that
Working indoors from Covid has definitely worsened my posture, I really loved this video and could relate!
Also the immigrant parent in my head screamed at the title
0:25 I was sitting the exact same way (and I mean *exact*) when this showed up
I have bad posture when sitting. I just do whats comfortable to me. I knew posture was over-emphasized! I knew it!
Just like good people can do terrible things, bad people can sometimes have good ideas.
I have 3 herniated discs from poor posture caused by a back injury caused by wearing very high heels in my younger years. Exercises and being aware of my posture are the things that make me able to function somewhat normally. Good posture keeps me mostly pain free.
That’s horrible, I’m sorry that happened to you :( Was it a fall that caused the damage?
@@distortedmist It was mostly wearing high heels. Four inches or higher. I did have a fall in my teens that caused knee problems. Wearing high heels threw my posture out of alignment. That along with compensating for my knee made it worse. It wouldn't be so bad now if I'd stuck to flats or low heels. When I see young women in high heels today, I cringe knowing what their future may be like.
Stage 1: NerdyandQuirky
Stage 2: Sabrina and Friends
Stage 3: Answer in Progress
C’mon Bri! 😂
it was Sabrina for a hot sec in there too! (maybe even sabrina cruz for a bit but I might be misremembering)
5:49 at this point we need a video exploring why Sabrina keeps going into these ideas with optimism about its result.
mom: get some better posture!
me: no
mom: why?
me: *racism*
Sometimes poor posture can be a sign of an underlying medical condition, if you do all you can to correct it and nothing works. One thing posture is never, is a character flaw.
Get a lumbar support cushion for your desk chair! I love having a cushion like this that attaches to my chair. I can move it right to where by back curves, and it's so much more comfortable! It makes sitting up straight not hurt. I also have a small rectangle pillow to put behind my back when sitting on the couch.
Michael reeeeeeeeeeeeves: I built a robot to bully me.
Sabrina: adds reason
Sabrina: it doesn't even matter
I was just thinking, Sabrina is just Michael Reeves but without the robots or the swearing.
Michael would have made it taze him, and forced his victims to wear it.
I got a posture ad which I’ve never seen ever on RUclips. This is the first and it’s because I clicked on this video.
Same! Got an ad for Upright - Posture Training, right before the video. Never seen that before.
I used to be made fun of for having 'too good' posture because apparently sitting up perfectly straight is weird for a 6 year old, but required for being a person.
Why do I feel like Sabrina would be the absolute coolest aunt?
My posture is: I want to quit my job and never have an office job again
Heh, what's weird is growing up I had the "perfect posture" because of my Grandmother, a 1940's charm school graduate (yes, we were one of THOSE families), but as I gained weight (and puberty), adjusting for more forward weight means slubbing a bit with a back sway.
Now it feel BETTER. 🤷🏼♀️
Bad posture can kill.
Kyphosis increases risks of all sorts of health complications as the organs are squished closer and closer together by the arching of the back, leading to reduced lung capacity among other things.
Do not let the politics of the past ruin things in the present, even if politicized, not so much "the benefits of a straight back" but "the disadvantages of a slouch spine" should be enough excuse to try and improve yourself and your health.
I agree! Bad posture can leave you slouched forever. Like, you can’t even sit up straight at all.. Kinda scary!!
At work sitting in my chair with the shrimp posture so this is positive reinforcement thank you
every sabrina video gives me a "Genderbend Michael Reeves without crack" vibe
omg absolutley wow
That's just the zoomer vibes.
omg definitely. without the crack, but with all the puns and motion graphics
So far, every video I've watched, I have shared with SOME friend or friends. Love the work you guys do! Please do not ever stop educating yourselves in this way, and educating us like this too, this format of delivery and information sharing is absolutely wonderful. Sending you guys all the best vibes and best of health, whatever that is for you!
I just want you to know that the camera angles showing your computer singlehandedly got me in the mechanical keyboard's rabbit hole.
I don't think you need to stress about stupid people wanting good posture for stupid reasons. "The stupidest, evilest person in the world says it's raining; therefore, the sun is shining" isn't a valid syllogism. Or another way of saying the same thing:
16/64
= 16̵/6̵4
= 1/4
The argument is invalid; you can't cancel out digits like that. But by coincidence the conclusion that 16/64 = 1/4 happens to be true. There's no need to feel guilty about accurate proofs that 16/64 = 1/4, just because there's a flawed argument out there.
A broken clock is right twice a day. -- Someone that that wasn't a broken clock
I totally agree. Just because people long ago used posture in not so good ways doesn’t mean we should stop doing it completely because of that 😭
8:19
I love how you added text in the corner to make the posture machine continue to roast you.
Wow, nice catch
the editing is so good
I find that posture doesn't matter unless either A) you're playing a musical instrument, B) you're performing or C) A and B
As someone who really struggles with posture I loved this video🥺 Sometimes I feel like I might never be able to fix it. That kind of relieved the pressure.
Two questions: what happened to the channel name
And is this the ai generated title from that Tom Scott video?
1) they changed it to this about a week ago because they’ve wanted to do so for a while
2) Yes!
@@bassgebrummel9048 Actually no. Idk if the title changed in the last 10 minutes, but right now it's "Why bad posture is actually fine", and the AI one is "how to fix your posture" (checked it) But yes, it's the posture video
@@tomasmontana4633 yes exactly I was referring to “the video mentioned in that Tom Scott video”, but thank you for the correction👍
@@bassgebrummel9048 *but,* the video idea didn't come from Tom's video - watch it and you'll realise that _we found out this video was already in the works_ because Tom's AI suggested a title that would relate to this, then we found out this video was in development
@@chorusofoddities that’s why I clarified “mentioned in the Tom Scott video”👍
My massotherapy degree is screeeeeaming with that video tittle: YES YES IT MATTERS!!! GRAVITY BENDS !!!
Same
Yeah, well, the more you research the less the evidence says otherwise.
Yeah it matters I'm 25 with back pain due to taking my classes in my bed
My only thing about posture is that because of our stationary lives, especially right now (Toronto's just getting out of lockdown), actively strong posture is a demonstration of the bare minimum core strength that is necessary to help avoid [preventable] back, shoulder, and hip pain and injuries. I'm a dancer and the overly upright posture we use is actually an overcorrected state that is just as bad in the long term as chronic slouching (if you get in the habit of living your life in that shape instead of finding your 'normal' outside of class). I applaud you for staying away from giving medical advice because by just opening the conversation, you've allowed people to begin to do their own research and consult their personal medical teams for best practices 💜
I fixed my posture b/c looking at someone with both good and bad posture is like a reminder to posture now… it works, if you are in a place with people a lot. Offices, customer service, school(rooms not online), your house with siblings
Corsets aren't solely about posture. They are actually a very supportive garment when fitted correctly. Much like wearing a properly fitted bra. All the weight of "the girls" is distributed to the hips through the boning in the corset. Corsets are great for women who are bigger and heavier and need more support than a bra can provide. There is a reason they were popular from 15th century until the fairly recent early 19th century. They aren't the "torture device" that people claim they are.
"I think you had a *hunch* I was going to say that"
Why would I unsubscribe for that?? I live for puns
I had an ad about posture device... I dint even know it was a real thing
Girl, I like a lot your approach to things, it's great!
I tried one of these tshirts that correct your posture. They are just uncomfortable and when I work I have the weirdest postures
I'm always really concerned about my posture because of my great grandmother. By the end of her life her spine was a C. She couldn't look up. This made me feel...a little better. I shouldn't stress, just try to stop hunching lol.
This!!
Listen i get that the history of "good posture" is full of ableism and classism but that does not negate the long term health benefits of good posture and the importance of taking care of your spine (i'm a radiographer so i see old people with awfully hunched backs that cause them great pain and it is no longer an option for them to just straighten up.)
The fact that you felt morally conflicted doing something that was literally bringing your back muscles relief, just because the people who initially encouraged good posture were horrible and had horrible motivations for it, is frankly just petty.
Yes we should talk about the morally complicated history of medicine, but do not turn a genuine health concern into a moral dilemma and try to justify bad posture as "actually not that bad" just to disagree with bigots of the past. Yes, disabled people or folks without access to health care should not be shamed for bad posture, but that doesn't mean it should be dismissed or even enabled in people who are otherwise healthy and do have the access to the tools to improve their posture.
I wrote a comment like this but you put it way better xD
Honestly agree I thought this would talk about health. I mean in the end if your damaging your mental health maybe it’s not worth to work so hard to achieve perfect posture and obsess over it. However I’m not getting the guilt she’s feeling for seeing improvements in health because of better posture! (Unless you suddenly treat people worse because of their posture or acted bigoted yourself those people are dead and you can support good posture while condemning history) that’s just like cancelling medicine for testing on animals or other advancements getting cancelled because of past human cruelty! She’s not glossing over the dark past though as long as we all acknowledge history we can make sure not to repeat it so! And yeah I like you said we shouldn’t shame other people for their decisions because in the end we don’t know their life or problems or barriers to accessing something! Still I have bad posture myself and I’m not very dilligent about fixing it so I won’t be a hypocrite but the title was pretty misleading
Yeah I felt her conclusion was kinda inaccurate. I was really hoping for biomechanical line of arguing not history of white people.
Agree. The way she had to justify that “bad posture isnt that bad” just because those who encouraged good posture were awful people is really illogical. Science doesnt align with your moral, it’s aligned with facts.
Yeah I'm 25 and my back started hurting like 1 month ago due to bad posture. And she's saying it isn't bad? Get out I'm literally hurting because of it
THIS IS LITERALLY GENIUS DAAAMN
HILARIOUS
i got an ad from headspace: “So sitting comfortably”
scared me because it included the word “sitting”
This reminds me of when I was younger, I had some back issues and the doctor told me I just had bad posture, probably because I slouched during the x-ray out of pure discomfort. So I went to the hospital and had all these tests for someone to tell me to sit up. It did help a bit, but it did not fix the fact that my spine curved when bent over and I still have excruciating pain in the middle of my back if I lay on my stomach and prop my head on my hands lol. Instead, it helped me get shoulders buff enough to withstand my new boobs and a lot of people accusing me of "sticking them out even though they're already big" so...I feel you.
2:30 and so maybe it's because I wanna reduce the tension in my back
or because
I wanna get my head closer to the sky...I dunno
that's life right there
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I really enjoyed this video but the title confuses me. Bad posture clearly isn't "fine" if it was causing you pain?
Still loving your videos. I’ve been around since you were announced a Nerd Factor winner to replace John Green on paternity leave 8 years ago this week! That posture machine is hilarious. Also, I feel that former-gifted-kid-just-trying-to-be-a vaguely competent-young-adult vibe in my bones.
When I was a child my parent would tell me that if my posture was bad they would buy me a beeping thing that would beep whenever my posture got bad. I never believed that something like this existed.
Until you created this machine straight from my nightmares.
My coworker is a standing desk evangelist and I get their reasoning about posture and focus, but I am stubborn and refuse to perform even more productivity than I have to at work than I already do
3:44 I never though I would get roasted so hard
I've found a lot more success improving my posture through exercise than constantly focusing on sitting up straight. The Athlean-X RUclips channel has a 15-minute posture workout. It was a pain to do, but I was amazed at the results. I just naturally had good posture and felt uncomfortable if I went back to my old slouch.
Yasss
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- Posture: boiled shrimp pasta.
- Mood: big.
Chadbrina:
- Posture: happy.
- Feelings: hurt.
0:30 HEY!! That was uncalled for
Me who's lying on the ground in bed while doing online school watching this:
Huh. Neat.
Edit: thanks for 100 likes!
Same
@@seen9417 Well it is the last day of the School Week at 9:49PM if that counts.
I did just this when In class
Me working from home on my couch with a blanket and a cat on top of me
When watching this video, I was a bit disappointed. I came to see if there was an argument against "good posture" in it's relation to improving health and/or would show that it actually gives negative results. What was shown in this video was arguments from Aesthetics, History, and Philosophy. But where's the Health??!?
Keep in mind, this does not mean I dislike the topics that were discussed. I find it very interesting to get insight on the cultural and historical background of how and where these topics sprung from, it's initial popularization, and how it was utilized to justify racial biases of their times. Nor do I take issue with the philosophical reasonings.
My issue lies in the fact that there was no information in this video that focused on it's health benifits or lack thereof. Ironically, it seems that you actually premote posture correction in a health aspect on the count that you mentioned that, in such a short period of time, you were able to loosen tention off your back.
Again, I am not Entirely disappointed with the topics that were chosen. But whyyy was there no information on health? I'm sure most individuals in modern culture are more concerned with how it affects your health rather than care about how one looks or how "polite", "gentlemenly", "high class", "high society" or whatever reasons people are generally not concerned with or should concern themselves with anymore in this day and age.
Rather than dismissing it based on how it was initially utilized and it's initial reasonings in a historical context or on the argument of aesthetics. I wish you would, if you could, make a follow up video that specifically goes into the topic of whether or not it actually improves or worsens health. I'm sure people would like to see the results of that.
If you read this, thank you for taking your time to listen to what I have to say.
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@@mrdarmin I can't believe youev den this
I just kinda assumed that you were sponsored by skillsgare as soon as you showed clips of you learning how to program