Observation:the reboot has a lot less omph than DMC4. The slashes feel slower and more lacking overall compared to the swift slashes and more ferocity in DMC4. Even the sound effect for trick actions sounds more like quick dashing (and looks like it too) than actual teleporting.
*Facepalm that's because Vergil DMC4 actually came *After* DmC. Not before. In the original DMC4 2008, Vergil doesn't exist. DMC4SE 2014 was released in response to angry fans. And Vergil was added after most of the movesets was imported from DMC3
@@niezzayt3809 I’d like to see the sauce for the first one cause that is a wild claim Why is v4rgil’s release date being late matter? He still follows the principles of v3rgil which is being swift and powerful
Never forget how they completely removed DmC Vergil’s fedora in the definitive edition. Also, funny how the man who is 0% human looks a lot more humanoid in his demon form than the guy who is half human
DMC reboot is a good game, its just that we already have the image of dante and vergil. If they made it in different title and different character name it would've been around 7/10 or even more. Gameplay wise 10/10
Solo voy a decir que vegil del DmC necesitaba más armas su moveset con Yamato están bien, pero creo que darle más armas como a Dante no hubieran sido mala idea
literal ninja theory ya se encontraba en la mierda cuando hicieron ese dlc lo mas seguro que si el reboot le iba bien ubiese tenido un set bastante mejor que el de dante supongo
I still don't know what is the main reason why people doesn't like DMC Devil May Cry very much. It looks nice, the sounds it has are nice, the combat feels amazing, both design of Dante and Vergil looks amazing, they added moves that needed extreme timing to make it even more powerful like Judgement Cut, and DMC Vergil can both Air Trick himself and the enemies to him.
They took away options for accessibility sake like replacing the concept of styles (not style switching) and replacing it with a single button launcher. Weapon switching is also extremely streamlined. In the other games they were for style and maybe optimizing damage via elements. But in DmC you kind of have to use Weapon Switching. No longer were weapons unique arsenals now just a piece of your basic combo kit. Look at Vergil. In DMC3 he had 3 unique weapons with their own styles and learning curves. But in DmC it's just Yamato Heavy Slash and Quick Slash overlaying what should be DmCs primary focus which is weapon switching. But they could hardly put up the facade long enough. Dantes Demon Weapons being heavy attack and angel weapons being fast attacks. All of the attacks do big aoe damage or vacuums them in from across the room. There's a myriad of nuances I can go into like losing characters. We lost Trish, Lady, and Nero. All are beloved characters with their own unique playstyles. Reboot also made no sense timing wise. DMC3 was the definitive action game experience for a while. DMC4 was rushed but still showed promises for the future of the series with the new Style Switching Dante got. Then they took all those years of evolution and try to boil it down to a few key moves. Weapon Switching is cool but it was never the primary focus just something you can develop into as you as a player got better. But DmC made it so everybody has to do it. With such a heavy emphasis on weapon switching and how they made weapons strengths basically do everything made DT extremely boring. All they could think of was freezing the enemy. Then because of the change of DT they took out Taunting.Taunting was there for DT but since it's so much stronger they couldn't make Taunt work the same without it being pointless or overpowered. So they took it out completely rather than think of interesting ways to spend your meter like in any other DMC game. I's not cool when DMC1 has a more complex Devil Trigger than DmC. Hell even DMC2 has a more interesting Devil Trigger. That's saying a lot.
@@tylercafe1260 I will agree on that taunting part. I don't usually taunt but it is cool that you get to taunt in different ways based on your style rank.
Many things, but the main things are the developers insulting both the fandom and franchise thinking their version of the two main characters(and overall story) are superior, the fact that in launch, this game was a buggy mess that had no lock-on button and color-coded enemies. The sounds are good but the voice acting for the attacks are terrible. Good gameplay but the character design for Dante is dogshit, with Dante looking like your average emo kid who has demon and angel powers, and Vergil is cool, but the fedora and abortion just makes him look and feel terrible. The weapon designs are good except for their version of the Yamato, which looks like a dollar store katana. Judgment Cut was already in DMC3, which was WAY before the development of this asscrack even started. They only added Perfect Judgment Cut. DmC Vergil's grab Airtrick is merely just a reskin to Dante's pull, which was pulled from Nero in DMC4. And don't even get me started on it STORY. Ninja Theory had quite the nerve to say that this was better than any DMC game that had been released, when it doesn't even surpass DMC4's quality, which is second to both DMC3 and DMC5. All it had was good gameplay and good graphics(and cool new difficulties), literally nothing noteworthy about the story or character design.
@@tylercafe1260 Good grief, this blob of text. Paragraph breaks, people As for DMC3 Vergil to DmC Vergil, no. Yes, in DMC3, he had more weapons, but they all had _very_ limited movesets in comparison. As a matter of fact, his Darkslayer "style" is functionally pointless as you don't even get style points for actually using its unique Style action. This is all still ignoring that DmC Vergil's DT benefits from having a second character mimic his attacks for increased damage, not to mention actually having different modes for itwhereas DMC3 Vergil's was simply just a power boost You "lost" Trish, Lady and Nero because this isn't that game and the first two weren't even playable in the original version of DMC4 The emphasis on switching weapons was only in the original version of DmC where enemies were color-coded for you to swap between Demon and Angel weapons. That was removed in the Definitive Edition.
Imma still thanks DmC for their simpler controls as DmC is my first dmc game that fully finished it and in pc (tried dmc 3 in ps2 but that when i was an elementary school and trying 4 nowadays and boi i have a nightmare with the controls, not a hardcore dmc fans but playing vergil way better than playing dante or Nero Also thanks to capcom by bringing Doppelganger mechanics from dmc into 5
It is genuinely impressive how much they managed to fuck up Vergil, not just in lore but also in gameplay, in DmC. There is absolutely no sense of speed or strength, the sounds are lackluster and the VFX is incredibly weak, and all of it combined makes you feel as if you're swinging a wet noodle. The only notable thing about DmC's side is that the animations are smooth, but they're so smooth that it is actually a detriment in this case. Thankfully, DmC is dead for good and we can instead have proper enhancements to the already great gameplay of DMC.
Good lord, DMC Vergil visually is almost as horrible as the fact that in dmc5 you must jump and time to do a chain of judgment cut. Can you do the chain in this game?
@@zffrailgun1630 later I saw somebody do it on the floor, but now is not as easy as just spamming triangle, it has a bullshit timing. Man games these days really put effort on complicating things
@@horriblequin Neither the air nor the ground version have you spam triangle. Both of them work by holding and then releasing the attack button at very specific intervals and the only difference with the air and ground versions is that the ground one is faster, hence you need to do the input faster too. As for "overcomplicating" things, there's nothing complicated about this process. You get used to the timing, learn it and you're rewarded with a very powerful move. You don't do any of the above, you don't get rewarded, simple. And also, and probably most importantly, this is DMC you're talking about. It's one of the most mechanically complex action games to date and that's exactly how it's always been. If you want to play mindless action games, find another franchise.
@@horriblequin so, basically you’re mad cause bad? High skill ceilings make games’ life time extend by like 100X because it requires time and practice to do the cool stuff pros do, you can’t be mad about that just because you can’t be bothered to put some time in the game that’s just bratty behavior.
Well, just like everyone says, it's a serviceable action game and a horrible DMC game. It genuinely impresses me how this game's gameplay is only superior to DMC1 and DMC2's despite the fact that it came well after DMC4.
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DMC4 Vergil: You think you can stand a chance?
DmC Vergil: 🗿
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Basically, it sums up the whole comparison pretty well.
DMC Vergil: motivated
DmC Vergil: 🗿
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DmC Vergil:🧍♂️
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DMC4 Idle Vergil: 🗡️⤴️↪️↩️
DMC Idle Vergil: 🧍♂️
Observation:the reboot has a lot less omph than DMC4. The slashes feel slower and more lacking overall compared to the swift slashes and more ferocity in DMC4. Even the sound effect for trick actions sounds more like quick dashing (and looks like it too) than actual teleporting.
*Facepalm that's because Vergil DMC4 actually came *After* DmC. Not before.
In the original DMC4 2008, Vergil doesn't exist. DMC4SE 2014 was released in response to angry fans. And Vergil was added after most of the movesets was imported from DMC3
@@niezzayt3809 I would prefer any version of vergil over the DMC one. Even dmc3 has better vergil than DMC devil may cry.
This is funny because a lot of reboot Vergil's mechanics were injected into DMC4 SE Vergil. They just sped it up and added more effects.
@@niezzayt3809 I’d like to see the sauce for the first one cause that is a wild claim
Why is v4rgil’s release date being late matter? He still follows the principles of v3rgil which is being swift and powerful
Never forget how they completely removed DmC Vergil’s fedora in the definitive edition.
Also, funny how the man who is 0% human looks a lot more humanoid in his demon form than the guy who is half human
Very cool DMC vs DMC Vergil comparison video.
THIS VERGIL like castlevania lords of shadow 2 graphically
DmC Vergil's moves were slow, meaty, and tactical if you have doppleganger activated.
OG Vergil is fast, powerful, and motivated.
has someone said, DmC Vergin looks the way we feel
I feel like shit so yeah
@@samuelrodriguesjetstreamsa209You are the Brazilian that’s approaching
I can't argue that dmc Vergil has some unique skills
DmC Vergil: Have solo missions for him🗿
DMC 4 and 5 vergil: just cry ;-;
too bad the DMC reboot Vergil story is terrible
@@snowdude8583 ninja theory still did a solo mission only for vergil, and capcom didn't ;)
@@esqueletoheadshoot25 yeah
If capcom made a story mission just for Vergil, it'll be a separate game~
🗿 ;-;
DMC reboot is a good game, its just that we already have the image of dante and vergil. If they made it in different title and different character name it would've been around 7/10 or even more. Gameplay wise 10/10
I think all Vergils are good including DmC 2013
cool pfp
@@akiyomerThanks
The Taunts in Dmc 💀
Also vergil at two different points in time. DmC is a much younger vergil that isnt as combat honed and dmc 4 is vergil the alpha and omega
Solo voy a decir que vegil del DmC necesitaba más armas su moveset con Yamato están bien, pero creo que darle más armas como a Dante no hubieran sido mala idea
literal ninja theory ya se encontraba en la mierda cuando hicieron ese dlc lo mas seguro que si el reboot le iba bien ubiese tenido un set bastante mejor que el de dante supongo
Looking good🔥
I still don't know what is the main reason why people doesn't like DMC Devil May Cry very much. It looks nice, the sounds it has are nice, the combat feels amazing, both design of Dante and Vergil looks amazing, they added moves that needed extreme timing to make it even more powerful like Judgement Cut, and DMC Vergil can both Air Trick himself and the enemies to him.
They took away options for accessibility sake like replacing the concept of styles (not style switching) and replacing it with a single button launcher. Weapon switching is also extremely streamlined. In the other games they were for style and maybe optimizing damage via elements. But in DmC you kind of have to use Weapon Switching. No longer were weapons unique arsenals now just a piece of your basic combo kit. Look at Vergil. In DMC3 he had 3 unique weapons with their own styles and learning curves. But in DmC it's just Yamato Heavy Slash and Quick Slash overlaying what should be DmCs primary focus which is weapon switching. But they could hardly put up the facade long enough. Dantes Demon Weapons being heavy attack and angel weapons being fast attacks. All of the attacks do big aoe damage or vacuums them in from across the room. There's a myriad of nuances I can go into like losing characters. We lost Trish, Lady, and Nero. All are beloved characters with their own unique playstyles. Reboot also made no sense timing wise. DMC3 was the definitive action game experience for a while. DMC4 was rushed but still showed promises for the future of the series with the new Style Switching Dante got. Then they took all those years of evolution and try to boil it down to a few key moves. Weapon Switching is cool but it was never the primary focus just something you can develop into as you as a player got better. But DmC made it so everybody has to do it. With such a heavy emphasis on weapon switching and how they made weapons strengths basically do everything made DT extremely boring. All they could think of was freezing the enemy. Then because of the change of DT they took out Taunting.Taunting was there for DT but since it's so much stronger they couldn't make Taunt work the same without it being pointless or overpowered. So they took it out completely rather than think of interesting ways to spend your meter like in any other DMC game. I's not cool when DMC1 has a more complex Devil Trigger than DmC. Hell even DMC2 has a more interesting Devil Trigger. That's saying a lot.
@@tylercafe1260 I will agree on that taunting part. I don't usually taunt but it is cool that you get to taunt in different ways based on your style rank.
Many things, but the main things are the developers insulting both the fandom and franchise thinking their version of the two main characters(and overall story) are superior, the fact that in launch, this game was a buggy mess that had no lock-on button and color-coded enemies. The sounds are good but the voice acting for the attacks are terrible. Good gameplay but the character design for Dante is dogshit, with Dante looking like your average emo kid who has demon and angel powers, and Vergil is cool, but the fedora and abortion just makes him look and feel terrible. The weapon designs are good except for their version of the Yamato, which looks like a dollar store katana. Judgment Cut was already in DMC3, which was WAY before the development of this asscrack even started. They only added Perfect Judgment Cut. DmC Vergil's grab Airtrick is merely just a reskin to Dante's pull, which was pulled from Nero in DMC4. And don't even get me started on it STORY. Ninja Theory had quite the nerve to say that this was better than any DMC game that had been released, when it doesn't even surpass DMC4's quality, which is second to both DMC3 and DMC5. All it had was good gameplay and good graphics(and cool new difficulties), literally nothing noteworthy about the story or character design.
@@tylercafe1260 Good grief, this blob of text. Paragraph breaks, people
As for DMC3 Vergil to DmC Vergil, no.
Yes, in DMC3, he had more weapons, but they all had _very_ limited movesets in comparison. As a matter of fact, his Darkslayer "style" is functionally pointless as you don't even get style points for actually using its unique Style action. This is all still ignoring that DmC Vergil's DT benefits from having a second character mimic his attacks for increased damage, not to mention actually having different modes for itwhereas DMC3 Vergil's was simply just a power boost
You "lost" Trish, Lady and Nero because this isn't that game and the first two weren't even playable in the original version of DMC4
The emphasis on switching weapons was only in the original version of DmC where enemies were color-coded for you to swap between Demon and Angel weapons. That was removed in the Definitive Edition.
@@kaihedgie1747 Did you really just gaslight yourself into thinking DmC has more moves? Wow.
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The most essential feature that doesn't included in DmC game is Lock On
Also it feel slower somehow
HE'S JUST STANDING THERE........... MENACINGLY
Imma still thanks DmC for their simpler controls as DmC is my first dmc game that fully finished it and in pc (tried dmc 3 in ps2 but that when i was an elementary school and trying 4 nowadays and boi i have a nightmare with the controls, not a hardcore dmc fans but playing vergil way better than playing dante or Nero
Also thanks to capcom by bringing Doppelganger mechanics from dmc into 5
vetgil dmc 4 very sovage
vergil DmC S😐😐
Reboot looks fun
They should have added taunts to DmC
EXCELENTE Saludos siempre
DMC 4 is wow all cutscene is wow story is wow !!!!!!
Motivated vergil vs unmotivated vergil
Epic giant like from meeeeee
It is genuinely impressive how much they managed to fuck up Vergil, not just in lore but also in gameplay, in DmC. There is absolutely no sense of speed or strength, the sounds are lackluster and the VFX is incredibly weak, and all of it combined makes you feel as if you're swinging a wet noodle. The only notable thing about DmC's side is that the animations are smooth, but they're so smooth that it is actually a detriment in this case.
Thankfully, DmC is dead for good and we can instead have proper enhancements to the already great gameplay of DMC.
Ikr dmc 4 Vergil attacks feel more powerful, plus his idle animation sucks and his attack voicelines
Is this the DE of DmC? Doesn't seem like it.
DmC - good.
DMC 4 - perfect.
this its why dmc4 more fun
bro has mascara
Did man just do a trici cut??
4:51
It's easier to do while on air
DmC could've been a very good game if it wasn't related to Devil May Cry
Look at how they massacred my boy
Good lord, DMC Vergil visually is almost as horrible as the fact that in dmc5 you must jump and time to do a chain of judgment cut. Can you do the chain in this game?
You don't have to jump to do a JC in DMC5, that'd be stupid. All JCs can be done on the ground.
@@zffrailgun1630 later I saw somebody do it on the floor, but now is not as easy as just spamming triangle, it has a bullshit timing. Man games these days really put effort on complicating things
@@horriblequin Neither the air nor the ground version have you spam triangle. Both of them work by holding and then releasing the attack button at very specific intervals and the only difference with the air and ground versions is that the ground one is faster, hence you need to do the input faster too.
As for "overcomplicating" things, there's nothing complicated about this process. You get used to the timing, learn it and you're rewarded with a very powerful move. You don't do any of the above, you don't get rewarded, simple. And also, and probably most importantly, this is DMC you're talking about. It's one of the most mechanically complex action games to date and that's exactly how it's always been. If you want to play mindless action games, find another franchise.
@@horriblequin so, basically you’re mad cause bad? High skill ceilings make games’ life time extend by like 100X because it requires time and practice to do the cool stuff pros do, you can’t be mad about that just because you can’t be bothered to put some time in the game that’s just bratty behavior.
@@horriblequin hard game is fun
DMC IV has better 4:44 & 6:10
DMC4SE Version Is Chad🗿
Because Vergil with DmC lacks demon trigger
The reboot was and still awful
Nah
No
So awful that DMC5 apes so much from it
Well, just like everyone says, it's a serviceable action game and a horrible DMC game. It genuinely impresses me how this game's gameplay is only superior to DMC1 and DMC2's despite the fact that it came well after DMC4.
@@zffrailgun1630 well atleast DmC is less hated than DMC2 thanks.
This is not me that not my yamato is not the same gross the worst decide ever and Devin May Cry series is DMC: Devil May Cry 🤢🤮
Ah yes my favourite game series, Devin May Cry
Ah yes, the best hack and slash series of all time, Devin May Cry
This is a joke post, isn't it
Ah yes Dante and me fighting in game called Devin May Cry
🤢🤮