This Machine Will Organize Your Life! - WTH Is an Item Filter/Sorter??
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:18 Black Box Demo
01:57 What's Inside?
02:43 How It Works
09:20 Overflow Protection
12:37 Non-stackable Filter
14:07 Shulker Box Filter
14:56 Full Chest Sorter
16:21 Other Cool Designs
17:29 Outro
Large hopper sorters can get very laggy. One solution is to place composters on top of all hoppers with air above them. It stops the hoppers from checking if they have items above them to pick up. Why composters? Well they are fairly cheap and also don't do much besides collect plant-matter to convert to bone meal. You could use furnaces or other items with menu's, but those can be more resource intensive on your computer.
While composters definitely help for large-scale hopper chains, I think for most small to mid-size applications, hopper lag is not actually that bad. So, you don't have to worry too much if you leave a couple of hoppers open, but consider using composters once your hopper count hits larger numbers.
You can also power them to lock it when not in use, which will reduce it to ~0 lag. Some arrangements of hoppers are worse than others, so a full hopper pointing a full chest will be ~1000x laggier than an empty hopper by itself (ilmango, 1.12), so prioritize locking those first
What he did also works on MCPE or Minecraft bedrock I always do that and in bedrock it never lags I have been doing that for long with my Crappy 2gb ram phone😂
the real reason why composters is because it has 1 inventory slot that can be checked.
wait I don't understand, why would it stop hoppers from checking?
idk much about hoppers but you said furnaces and hoppers can suck items from furnaces. Won't they check if there is smth to suck from furnaces???
Thanks for the mention! I always have fun trying to sort everything automatically.
Of course! Thanks for all your awesome work in the space :)
Raton
Who else was recommended his logic gate video and couldn't stop watching him afterwards
I still watch these videos even though I already know how everything you show works, they're very well made!
you forgot to say the "storage tech is my passion" line, its an essential for every video about item sorters
9:07
Me, using hoppers with pre-filled slots as storage:
love watching a video that makes me exclaim like an old timey mathematician "It all makes sense now! I get it I get it!"
Eureka!
Hey, we all need sorting on our lives.
Made massive item sorters before, loads of trial and error, but got them to work. Never understood them though. It all makes sense now, thanks! Very informative. Btw, allay item sorters are amazing for non stackable sorting. I ]also use them for sorting my raid farm to smelt for nuggets and burn the crossbows as fuel.
Two weeks ago I designed a one-wide auto shulker filler + item filter design for my survival world, I needed something tileable and thought it would be cool if I did it my self. Watching this video would’ve helped me so much haha, thank you for the great content
THANK YOU! ive thought about this ofr way to long
"The truth is, it can,,," was the best. Was about ready to go ham on minecraft but then was completely surprised by common sense
Take in mind that you do not need 41 items as diamond...you can use 44 junk items +1 diamond 👍
So 11x4 junk items +1 for the filter for items that stuck into 64, 5/11/11/11 junk for items that stuck into 16.
Sweet video, Implemented this into my multiplayer world. Love how you make your videos and the way you explain things. Keep it up!
Nice, glad I could help!
If anyone is interested in some amazing storage tech videos, I highly recommend cubicmetre! He explores large-scale storage concepts such as bulk storage, item encoding, and a whole host of other crazy concepts.
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amazing work as always, you put a lot of effort in your videos and they are always super interesting!
Thank you!
True
He did not mention but there are lots of design that able to filter stackable item without sacrificing too much item only 1 of it.... Yeah it's true I made one tho even it's just on bedrock
Overflow protection is cool and all, but for instance, when you sort expensive items, what are the chances that you'll overflow with them?
And if you run a risk of overflowing your system with diamonds, you could sacrifice an additional 40 pieces.
It's cool that you mentioned that issue, though.
Now we can make an informed decision about when to implement costly overflow protection, and when isn't worth it.
I'm watching the video rn but I just LOVE your videos. You should have more subscribers!
Thank you!
Wonderful vídeo!
CubicMetre's overstacked item filter is another good one, though i understand why you left it out of the video.
for “precious materials” I’m seeing a lack of redstone
Minecraft redstone and jazz, to very complex to understand things, that give people tools for creativity
12:17 u only need to put 1 item in and it will count up and passively cost items
True, that's another way of setting this up
@@jazziiRed yeah that how i usually do all my types of item filters. Also u forgot about a over stacked item filters
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A few years ago I optimized the item filter so you need 1 comparator less. The rest of the item filter is basically the same (same height, width, but shorter length -> more compact).
Do you are interested in seeing this setup? I want to know whether this is something new, because I might do a short video about it, but it seems to obvious to find. At the same time I wonder why nobody uses it
You can get bonus points for using Lithium which drastically decreases hopper lag
Ill build an entire warehouse with dedicated sections just for me to throw everything into the same chest bc im lazy. Then make another chest to fill with random crap bc im lazy
So... I will be the one to say.... "Allay item sorter"
instead of using a named Item, does it make sense to use something else,like sticks or regular iron nuggets, but you sort it out before every other item, then it wont disrupt the system, even if it happens to get into the input chest?
I think it's because if you accidentally put these sticks or whatever it will break
@@DavidV11 I think you misunderstood my comment.
I was wondering, if its a good alternative to use a cheap item as a place holder, but sort the place holder item out first, instead of using named items, wich cost xp to make.
@@ulz_glcyou can rename 64 of any items for just 1 xp lvl if you put them together
@@ulz_glc Yes you could. The problem is sometimes the filler item's sorter has to put those "accidental" filler inputs somewhere. There will be no problem *IF* you have the storage. But when you *DON'T* (which will happen eventually), there's gonna be overflows and everthing will be drained from the sorter. Hope you get what I mean.
TLDR; it would be broken by overflows
A great use for obscure items. Like poisonous potatoes ;)
Can you show us some sortators wich can sort different things in one chest
I mentioned a few in the video and left a bunch of links in the description :)
Is there a specific reason why the hopper on the bottom of the hopper line always tries to get the items before the next hopper in the line?
Hoppers run on a global timer, and pulling items happens first before pushing items.
i like to think of it like "gravity;" an item can "fall" down a column of open hoppers and can only "walk" horizontally once it's on a stable level.
What happens if you put a TNT in the shulker filter?
PD: The english is'nt my first lenguage.
Or a lava or water bucket.
MAKE MRE OF THESE PELASEE
Just don't pack them so tightly together leave I space in between the sorters and it won't bleed over. Just don't build it that stupid😅and you won't have overflow signal issues 😂
Build it how you wanna build it, this is just how he built it in his video and it's just a suggestion.
sure, that works. but your storage system will be a lot less compact. Stacking them right next to each other let's you put arbitrarily many in a long line of silos without sacrificing every other slice as buffer space.
I typically use water ways for item delivery instead of a hopper line, then you need a natural buffer space every 9 slices on average cause of the water flow mechanics. That actually helps with declutter imo.
Still much better for space economy.
what's the point of having it sort them for you if you have to walk three times as far to retrieve it later?