I played around 100 Tenpai games to get an idea of the deck in the meta. It’s by far the most 50/50 deck I’ve ever played. I found that breaking the board isn’t the issue, it’s getting your card to resolve at all. It’s way too weak to most hand traps (field spell is only online like 20% of games).
i know its not an exact comparison but its like how mikanko was super popular when it got added in MD, where first few weeks you would just get frustrated when your stuff gets kaiju'd but if your deck is just stupid enough with its endboard and you win the roach mini game you can just beat it. even going further back personally its no different than losing to something like numeron or blind second 8 axis. sure the deck is better in a blind bo1 format but honestly most things are.
I love it when a breaker build of tenpai makes me go first, i just set up a turn skip drytron board with amorphactor pain and the battle phase skip trap lol
@@OlgaZuccati I use it too, but tenpai can bring under dbarrier lots of monsters to the field for link plays, which often is enough, because they can kill my plays with their nonengine. Devastation-virus kills all monsters in a tenpai deck besides ash and magnamut for three turns.
28:29 - There's three summons that haven't been covered: summoning tokens, summoning from the S/t, and summoning from the Monster Zones (Gemini). There could also be when your opponent summons monsters to your side of the field as well. The set could also be p[rinted, but I agree with Josh that Trap decks already have a rough enough time in the present day game to not need to be punished when there's already so much punishment naturally in how slow trap cards can be.
I concur on the havnis/bystial for every deck. I also would like to suggest an effect that could be a direction for power creep. You know how booking a monster removes negates it might have had applied to it? This without the booking, they could make cards that removed lingering effects applied to a card, which we then speaking logically could make a card that removed lingering effects on the field. Then the next step would be for the turn and then for the Duel. Lingering effect is also something like an "and for the rest of the turn" that would be able to be removed.
For me current MD is fine, Tenpai is overrate, it easier to deal with than most meta I didn't mean it easy to deal with though, but it easier than FKSE or Yubel or Tear or even Kash meta
Tenpai is a really easy deck to counter in deck building, unlike stuff like snake eyes or yubel. Also I know is not just me, but I have noticed that when a deck is really easy to play, the misplays are really noticeable, I have won against a few Tenpai players that could have won if they had sequenced their cards in a different way, but oh well. Also just surrendering after seeing the first Tenpai card is just wrong, let them misplay.
Tenpai are annoying because it is a hard deck to interact with. But the worst offenders are decks that keep playing after 2 or 3 handtraps, no locks or anything, just switching engines on the fly.
I think one idea could be to have a card in an archetype, that can be special summoned from the hand and then lets you reveal 3 different in archetype monsters from your deck. Your opponent then gets to chose one of them to special summon and depending on the monster you get like a pop or a mild floodgate effect and you then get to link them off at the start of the next turn, unless they are dealt with. Because your opponent gets to chose it can never bee ridiculously oppressive, but it goes a long way to evening the playing field and it locks you out of certain board breakers.
mulchummy 4 is gonna be for s-t activated, 5 is gonna be for cards added to hand from anywhere, maybe 6 the one that farfa mentioned where it's for sets and divine multchummy as a searcher or as a "send from deck to gy and copy it".
@38:43 Havnis is my favorite card design in all of yugioh. The fact that "randomness" was an aspect is one of the best things that it did - it made each game that you drew it play out differently. If you have consistency then not only is it easier to play around, but the game-to-game dynamic becomes the same, and I already think that's a massive problem with modern card design. Decks are too linear. Also, if you build your deck the right way, it becomes less and less random - in ishizu tear you'd almost always hit something relevant. What it was could be different, like sometimes you'd only mill a shuffler, sometimes you'd mill a tear to fuse into rulkallos, sometimes it was reinoheart to make a kaleidoheart, sometimes it was an ishizu miller. Sometimes it was a sulliek or a scream to just get you some card advantage for next turn and a body on field. Very rarely would you actually just mill a combination of planet, instant fusion, terraforming, etc. This also made it harder for the opponent to play around. Even if you assume that the opponent has havnis, it's not just a hand comparison interruption because you don't actually know what havnis will result in as an interruption. In almost all modern yugioh matchups you can reveal hands and find out with a high degree of certainty who will win the game, barring misplays - not saying that's how a game WILL play out, since hidden information is part of the game, but you CANNOT do that with tearlament (unless tear has a mediocre hand/brick and the opponent drew like 3 good hand traps). IMO saying you don't like havnis as a card means you don't like using your brain when you play the game, because you have to do that to play around it. #Puthavnisto3 On that note, don't unban kitkallos imo. One of the worst card designs in tear (after planet), it's exclusively proactive when a lot of the way the deck plays is reactively.
nah it's completely unreasonable to trigger Havnis and snowball into Rulkallos, Winda, both Shufflers in GY and probably a Kaleido-heart or Dragostapelia at some point before your opponent has performed a single meaningful action. That is completely unfun for anyone playing against it. Just because it didnt happen all the time doesnt mean it wasnt frustrating when it did
1:11:20 “colonel master duel -> general master duel” joke refers general chat in discord servers. captain - colonel - general refers to the military rank. so the joke is “colonel chat promoted to general chat.”
Also Rarity Collection 2...I think it sold well initially. But from what I'm seeing they're sitting on shelves now and not really moving. It wasn't a terrible set, not nearly as bad as the new Mega Tins, but it was missing a lot of things that people were looking for.
The copyright issue with Air Neos I believe is actually based around Michael Jordan and Nike having an issue with it. The color scheme and color allocation is very similar to the Retro Air Jordan 1s.
I won't say love but having people actually worrying about going second decks is a good sign, and honestly I don't see a deck that's lower than tenpai's power level to succeed in modern yugioh
I don’t go to many tournaments as of late. But someone help me understand what would stop me from traveling and setting up streams for the events. It’s such a help for players at home and I think it’s so important.
So Earth = gy/banish. Something from the earth, allready in place. Wind = Deck and Extra Deck Something from thin air, the monsters appear from nothing brought by the wind. Water = something that's floating, can hit the field anytime, from hand, floating in hand. So... Mulcharmys - Fire Something that is burning, burn LP, everytime your opp gives you effect damage you draw a card - Light I do really like Joshua take, something divine, that shows light, bring something to light? Everytime your opp reveals you a card you draw a card - Dark The dark one is like the anti-christ, everytime your opp draws a card you draw a card
I picked up Centur-Ion in Master Duel for both the Duel Triangle and ranked. The Tenpai swamp has been annoying as fuck, and I've been stuck in Master 5 because of it. I'm thinking of throwing in Rise to Full Height to send for Stand Up's cost just for them.
Some considerations: - Tenpai isn't good in Bo1 - Tenpai isn't as good as most people think in TCG either. Is a low skill deck with flaws that can win, so the average quality of players that use it, is on average, lower than other top tier decks. In the TCG side: -Internet community is not the same as IRL community. People complaining about the price of the game & state of the meta rarely plays tournaments even when meta is affordable. Tins having harder to pulk ratios was in direct response to konami punishing paying customers over non paying ones, for example. They actually do know what they are doing. Just for comparison, pokemon had a regional in Lille past weekend. It had 850 masters which is far less than YCS lille main event.
They are literally not; you have no go first side board. Which wins games quite often in Bo3. In Bo1, you are not guaranteed to go second, ever. Especially when mirror match is rampant, you lose any semblance of consistency at winning in such drastic conditions.
Tenpai is cracked in Bo1, you are more often than not going to be playing your optimal turn. Tenpai is INSANE and can play through multiple interactions very easily if you actually understand the deck. The deck has a low skill FLOOR, but the ceiling on Tenpai is utterly ridiculous. You can ALMOST guarantee full combo into as many as 3 interactions on a decent hand. Anyone who ISN’T complaining about the price of this game and the near mandatory cards is a Konami boot licker that can’t fathom the concept of criticism against something they enjoy. I love yugioh, but Konami’s TCG printing policies are actual dog shit in every fathomable way. Yugioh is RELATIVELY affordable compared to other TCGs, but the tcg especially is still so unnecessarily expensive because Konami outside of Japan can’t grasp the concept of dropping pack filler for multiple rarities. There is zero excuse for $100 staples that are 3x or even 2x. $150 Fuwalos is criminal.
@@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw You are infull liberty of not buying. Yugioh isn't a ONG, is a profit driven organization; fuwalos isn't even necessary to have fun and by the looks of it, not even needed to top if you are good at ygo. There is a big line between being entitled and being critic, "ygo is criminal with a $150 staple" is entitlement at its finest; peopke at TCG side know what they are doing and are better at business and ygo than what you think. Imagine me going to a ferrari dealer and telling them it is "criminal" that i cannot afford their cars and that they should be as cheap as toyota's because they are cars. If they are polite, they will tell me they can't do anything, and that i should buy a toyota instead. If they are not, they would just laugh in my face. Konami is at least nice enough to let you know that waiting will get you better prices. Every good player i know (the ones that actually play tournaments, unlike you), have 0 comments on prices, their most repeated comment is: "it is what it is, they gotta make money, i don't control what they do or they don't" & most casuals ( aka the obes that buy sealed) just tell me: "cool if i pulk it, but i know i won't and even with good cards, i wouldn't do well at toyrnaments". Listening to people not playing the game and barely buying product is not how you make money, you do by listening to paying customers (the ones playing tournaments, the ones buying packs, the ones buying a lot of singles of newer product). If konami did that, they would think the game is "dead" when sales numbers and attendances are higher than average. ------- And the tenpai comment is quite shallow and i g n o r a nt. Is impossible to get any semblance of consistency with tenpai in bo1 against skilled opponents. You don't choose order half the time, that alone disproves you. Sum that tenpai and anti tenpai are super popular atm (so more uncontrollable factors), and the low skill floor of the deck ( an average player and a good one would change the result less times than with good decks like snake eyes azamina) and no side board decrease the win ratio by itself, a lot. To the point where if you play against anyone good, going first and second randomly, your win ratio will be less than 50%. Tenpai is good, is just overglorified by unprepared or inexperienced players because their b a d decks get cooked easily. Pretty much all top players avoid playing tenpai for a reason, and that's something you understand when you have played with and against the deck with good players for a while, which you haven't.
Tenpai in Master Duel has been pretty annoying to deal with, but I will say that the number of games against Tenpai that I've won off the back of simply milling a Rise to Full Height is much higher than I was anticipating. If I lose the coin toss and am forced to go first, my #1 goal is to make Curious as soon as possible and mill Rise to Full Height.
Question for you both and chat/comments as well. What would you recommend to someone who has been playing and following yugioh for past 3-4 years, but has never playing with the cards IRL. Like I don’t know most rulings and wouldn’t even know if I’m cheating. But I want to go to a local or play in a tournament
If you've played for 4 years online then you will have a good enough grasp of the rules to go to a local. Distantcoder i believe has some videos on rulings like the damage step, which can help. I went to my first national after playing for 1 year and it was fine. That was a simpler format though, so I suggest some irl practice especially with keeping track of which cards have used their effects, hard once or soft once per turn etc, as that can win and lose games if your Opp isn't concentrating.
Not as consistent as other decks, but Vaalmonica just hard counter tenpai in a very funny way. Zebufera acts as hugin and even multiple times if you put counters in both turns, the trap destroy field spell and then bounce a monster, could be activate twice
The most non-game I've had into Tenpai so far was my opponent drawing, activating droplet, sending 3, activating L Storm, then NS Paidra into a win. It's been wholly uninteresting the past couple weeks imo
Luckily Tenpai is so high rarity I don't see as much of it in lower ranks, oe even the festival. I think I've run into more ice barrier than tenpai playing in the Link group
Honestly same, the amount of other types of decks I saw when playing as link is quite interesting. I think I vs'd tenpai about 4-5 games out of the 30+ I played. I went against mirror match tenpai more when playing on synchro which makes no sense what so ever but that's konami
@@spicymemes7458I don’t play tenpai, but it sucks in master rank. Since master 3 you can be sure to play 90% against tenpai, so I took out all handtraps and put in only going first cards. Easy wins.
@@Jackinthebox1719 I played Dinomorphia and that worked well against Tenpai. I just don't really want to go through the motions. It's like I disengage with what I am doing otherwise.
Hey infernoids are actually decent. They can push through a bunch of interruption as a blind go second. The small noids can easily bait out interruptions to get the fusion or reasoning off
Ritual beast is going to overperform in MD because its an auto sim, and ritual beast becomes playable when you can track your effect usages and see the flashing lights.
Josh talking about Ash being banned is wild. Never thought I'd see the day. Ash, CBTG, Crossout need to go and it's crazy that Konami would rather release 12 Maxx Cs instead of just banning those cards.
The problem with the yugioh TCG is that there is no accessible bridge from "yugioh as you remember it" to "yugioh as it (as actually) is" Like do TCG structure decks even mention handtraps im so serious
I would like to think that structure decks like Albaz Strike and Beware of the Traptrix are a farily decent bridge from old school to modern yugioh in that one enforces fusion summoningm and the other is trap oriented.
I see people bringing this argument a lot 1:40:59 where they think that if high rarity/exclusive products were to be more widely available for everyone for a few bucks, then the company would make more money by the sheer number of customers, but in reality it's been proven that a small minority of players aka the whales keep most of the mobile games running, and this is specially true for gacha games.
I jumped ship during summer this year after almost 20 years of yugioh. Sometimes i feel the urge to come back but given all the other options I can invest my time and money into in 2024, I feel very comfortable to stay away from this toxic company called Konami.
i have seen more tenpai losing to a 2k defender and 1 imperm than those that find a game winning hand. it just does nothing 90% of the time and that si what we where afraid of
"It could be cool if only 1 slot was dedicated to QCR nostalgia" says the person talking about a set that was announced to only have 1 slot dedicated to QCR nostalgia
I think of all the Tenpai games I've played, between event or ladder or challenge cups, one was a real game and not a "game" The deck isn't fun in best of one, and it's not fun in best of three for Master Duel
Tenpai resulted in an easier experience than in TCG due to the best-of-one factor. Trap decks have the advantage against Tenpai and there is plenty of tech cards that you can use. Tenpai only gets better with a side deck.
12:10 rarity two was and is a great set, it was just WAY overpriced. $10 a pack MSRP, that’s why people were upset. $10 for 9 cards is pure BS. Bring in the…“IF yOuR’e BrOKe JuSt SaY iT” comments…🤤🥴 OK BUD. 🖕
Not to be an “um actually”, but, duel links has had for years now, events where you can spend gems to turn a card into a prisma. It cost like 1500 gems, so still insanely expensive, and the new method is way better, but it’s something master duel could bring for now until Konami implements special processing for Master Duel. 1:42:13
I am more excited to play Pokemon pocket than Yu-Gi-Oh. All the upcoming Maxx c, fiendsmith and after a year of snake eyes, tearlaments and broken decks back to back I am kinda off the game I want to live in a world where Gabonga is a decent deck beyond gold rank at release, is that too much to ask?
Is that a challenge for me to turn goblin biker into ryzeoll? Did you ever understand that rank 3 have 1. Ashura king 2. Cicada king 3. Gossip Use gabonga as an ash bait or if you can you summon ashura first then summon gabonga.
@@r3zaful how to play Goblin Bikers: -Open starter + 5 extenders+ out to Maxx C -make a board full of monster negates - get boardwiped by raigeki and otk by Tenpai - derank
josh's takes on mulchamy's (especially fuwalos) are kinda irritating to hear from a casual/local perspective... not everyone wants or HAS to play a lab deck or paleozoic or whatever runick stuff you play in order to not just die from 1 card... yes there are stupidly broken combo decks that finish on insane endboards but there are also combo decks that don't even finish on much to begin with and get absolutely destroyed now by 1 card just for trying to make their 2-3 endboard cards.. yall been saying for ever how max C is a problem and how it hinders deck building by having to main 6-7 other cards in order to counter it and now we have literally 9 of them for every kind of deck to have in your disposal.. how exactly are decks without a 1 card combo supposed to counter that when they can't play 18-20 non engine cards? they just die cuz of that 1 card existing... just like shifter is for like 95% of the decks that exist.. P.S. a card that costs ~350-400$ for a playset CANNOT be a fix to any problem btw.. if anything it makes the gap between local players, new players, or ppl who simply want to have a good time for couple hours per week even bigger and make them think about giving up the game or simply not start to begin with..
Malice has waifus, tcg konami would never make them commons...
Love how they tap into the horny problematic ones for profit.
I played around 100 Tenpai games to get an idea of the deck in the meta. It’s by far the most 50/50 deck I’ve ever played. I found that breaking the board isn’t the issue, it’s getting your card to resolve at all. It’s way too weak to most hand traps (field spell is only online like 20% of games).
Yeah, if you play Tenpai enough you could see clearly the weaknesses of the deck
i know its not an exact comparison but its like how mikanko was super popular when it got added in MD, where first few weeks you would just get frustrated when your stuff gets kaiju'd but if your deck is just stupid enough with its endboard and you win the roach mini game you can just beat it. even going further back personally its no different than losing to something like numeron or blind second 8 axis. sure the deck is better in a blind bo1 format but honestly most things are.
Nah fam they got the field spell EVERY DAMN TIME
They have the field spell every fucking game
If your only resolving your field spell 20% of the time in Tenpai your playing it wrong.
I love it when a breaker build of tenpai makes me go first, i just set up a turn skip drytron board with amorphactor pain and the battle phase skip trap lol
My pend pile combos into Secret Village, shocking how tenpai with monsters only can't win
@@ShinerCCC my lab deck is deck-Devistationvirus turbo since tenpai release. Shocking how tenpai without monsters can’t win.
@@Jackinthebox1719 you should try out d-barrier, i've been told that tenpai play quite a bit of synchros 🤣
@@OlgaZuccati I use it too, but tenpai can bring under dbarrier lots of monsters to the field for link plays, which often is enough, because they can kill my plays with their nonengine. Devastation-virus kills all monsters in a tenpai deck besides ash and magnamut for three turns.
28:29 - There's three summons that haven't been covered: summoning tokens, summoning from the S/t, and summoning from the Monster Zones (Gemini). There could also be when your opponent summons monsters to your side of the field as well. The set could also be p[rinted, but I agree with Josh that Trap decks already have a rough enough time in the present day game to not need to be punished when there's already so much punishment naturally in how slow trap cards can be.
Love the shoutout to infernoid. Konami really needed to erta Paity to be a one card combo. Like, on summon, Paity summons 3 Decatrons from deck.
Holy shit lol that would be cracked
Mulcharmy that works when your opponent plays a card on your turn. Surely that is balanced because they can negate it.
Some people are allergic to the opponent playing on their turn. Interaction? No thanks.
@@Ragnarok540I mean there’s interaction on your turn, and then there’s going full combo
I concur on the havnis/bystial for every deck.
I also would like to suggest an effect that could be a direction for power creep. You know how booking a monster removes negates it might have had applied to it? This without the booking, they could make cards that removed lingering effects applied to a card, which we then speaking logically could make a card that removed lingering effects on the field. Then the next step would be for the turn and then for the Duel.
Lingering effect is also something like an "and for the rest of the turn" that would be able to be removed.
For me current MD is fine, Tenpai is overrate, it easier to deal with than most meta
I didn't mean it easy to deal with though, but it easier than FKSE or Yubel or Tear or even Kash meta
Tenpai is a really easy deck to counter in deck building, unlike stuff like snake eyes or yubel. Also I know is not just me, but I have noticed that when a deck is really easy to play, the misplays are really noticeable, I have won against a few Tenpai players that could have won if they had sequenced their cards in a different way, but oh well. Also just surrendering after seeing the first Tenpai card is just wrong, let them misplay.
Agreed 100%. I've been enjoying MD more than in a good while after Tenpai release.
Tenpai are annoying because it is a hard deck to interact with.
But the worst offenders are decks that keep playing after 2 or 3 handtraps, no locks or anything, just switching engines on the fly.
I think one idea could be to have a card in an archetype, that can be special summoned from the hand and then lets you reveal 3 different in archetype monsters from your deck. Your opponent then gets to chose one of them to special summon and depending on the monster you get like a pop or a mild floodgate effect and you then get to link them off at the start of the next turn, unless they are dealt with. Because your opponent gets to chose it can never bee ridiculously oppressive, but it goes a long way to evening the playing field and it locks you out of certain board breakers.
mulchummy 4 is gonna be for s-t activated, 5 is gonna be for cards added to hand from anywhere, maybe 6 the one that farfa mentioned where it's for sets and divine multchummy as a searcher or as a "send from deck to gy and copy it".
Should've called it the quarter century palooza. Palooza's a funni word.
I think putting Pot of Greed at QCR and having that as the chase card would be cool for yugiboomers
The pot collection already has pot of greed qcr
Maliss will have at least 6 CR and 1 QC. Mark my words
They reprint Air Neos, but the card art has Air Neos cut out of it.
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Havnis is my favorite card design in all of yugioh. The fact that "randomness" was an aspect is one of the best things that it did - it made each game that you drew it play out differently. If you have consistency then not only is it easier to play around, but the game-to-game dynamic becomes the same, and I already think that's a massive problem with modern card design. Decks are too linear. Also, if you build your deck the right way, it becomes less and less random - in ishizu tear you'd almost always hit something relevant. What it was could be different, like sometimes you'd only mill a shuffler, sometimes you'd mill a tear to fuse into rulkallos, sometimes it was reinoheart to make a kaleidoheart, sometimes it was an ishizu miller. Sometimes it was a sulliek or a scream to just get you some card advantage for next turn and a body on field. Very rarely would you actually just mill a combination of planet, instant fusion, terraforming, etc.
This also made it harder for the opponent to play around. Even if you assume that the opponent has havnis, it's not just a hand comparison interruption because you don't actually know what havnis will result in as an interruption. In almost all modern yugioh matchups you can reveal hands and find out with a high degree of certainty who will win the game, barring misplays - not saying that's how a game WILL play out, since hidden information is part of the game, but you CANNOT do that with tearlament (unless tear has a mediocre hand/brick and the opponent drew like 3 good hand traps).
IMO saying you don't like havnis as a card means you don't like using your brain when you play the game, because you have to do that to play around it.
#Puthavnisto3
On that note, don't unban kitkallos imo. One of the worst card designs in tear (after planet), it's exclusively proactive when a lot of the way the deck plays is reactively.
nah it's completely unreasonable to trigger Havnis and snowball into Rulkallos, Winda, both Shufflers in GY and probably a Kaleido-heart or Dragostapelia at some point before your opponent has performed a single meaningful action. That is completely unfun for anyone playing against it. Just because it didnt happen all the time doesnt mean it wasnt frustrating when it did
Wouldn’t there have to be different banlists for best of 1 and best of 3?
Id love an episode on engines throughout ygo
1:11:20 “colonel master duel -> general master duel” joke refers general chat in discord servers. captain - colonel - general refers to the military rank. so the joke is “colonel chat promoted to general chat.”
Also Rarity Collection 2...I think it sold well initially. But from what I'm seeing they're sitting on shelves now and not really moving. It wasn't a terrible set, not nearly as bad as the new Mega Tins, but it was missing a lot of things that people were looking for.
The copyright issue with Air Neos I believe is actually based around Michael Jordan and Nike having an issue with it. The color scheme and color allocation is very similar to the Retro Air Jordan 1s.
I really enjoyed this episode topics wise, but it had too much RUclips ads.
I love Tenpai format.
Paleo is on the best possible position possible and that is the only thing I care about
I won't say love but having people actually worrying about going second decks is a good sign, and honestly I don't see a deck that's lower than tenpai's power level to succeed in modern yugioh
I don’t go to many tournaments as of late. But someone help me understand what would stop me from traveling and setting up streams for the events. It’s such a help for players at home and I think it’s so important.
Also on the handtrap point, i feel and have felt for a while that they will begin to put handtraps on the f&l list
So Earth = gy/banish.
Something from the earth, allready in place.
Wind = Deck and Extra Deck
Something from thin air, the monsters appear from nothing brought by the wind.
Water = something that's floating, can hit the field anytime, from hand, floating in hand.
So...
Mulcharmys
- Fire
Something that is burning, burn LP, everytime your opp gives you effect damage you draw a card
- Light
I do really like Joshua take, something divine, that shows light, bring something to light?
Everytime your opp reveals you a card you draw a card
- Dark
The dark one is like the anti-christ, everytime your opp draws a card you draw a card
I like how the MD shuffler is just rigged to make me brick against tenpai even playing decks with good matchups into it
I picked up Centur-Ion in Master Duel for both the Duel Triangle and ranked. The Tenpai swamp has been annoying as fuck, and I've been stuck in Master 5 because of it. I'm thinking of throwing in Rise to Full Height to send for Stand Up's cost just for them.
I will never regret crafting 2 red reboots lol
electromagnetic turtle is the goat for tenpai
Some considerations:
- Tenpai isn't good in Bo1
- Tenpai isn't as good as most people think in TCG either. Is a low skill deck with flaws that can win, so the average quality of players that use it, is on average, lower than other top tier decks.
In the TCG side:
-Internet community is not the same as IRL community. People complaining about the price of the game & state of the meta rarely plays tournaments even when meta is affordable. Tins having harder to pulk ratios was in direct response to konami punishing paying customers over non paying ones, for example. They actually do know what they are doing.
Just for comparison, pokemon had a regional in Lille past weekend. It had 850 masters which is far less than YCS lille main event.
???? Decks like Tenpai are literally the strongest in BO1 formats
They are literally not; you have no go first side board. Which wins games quite often in Bo3.
In Bo1, you are not guaranteed to go second, ever. Especially when mirror match is rampant, you lose any semblance of consistency at winning in such drastic conditions.
Tenpai is cracked in Bo1, you are more often than not going to be playing your optimal turn. Tenpai is INSANE and can play through multiple interactions very easily if you actually understand the deck. The deck has a low skill FLOOR, but the ceiling on Tenpai is utterly ridiculous. You can ALMOST guarantee full combo into as many as 3 interactions on a decent hand. Anyone who ISN’T complaining about the price of this game and the near mandatory cards is a Konami boot licker that can’t fathom the concept of criticism against something they enjoy. I love yugioh, but Konami’s TCG printing policies are actual dog shit in every fathomable way. Yugioh is RELATIVELY affordable compared to other TCGs, but the tcg especially is still so unnecessarily expensive because Konami outside of Japan can’t grasp the concept of dropping pack filler for multiple rarities. There is zero excuse for $100 staples that are 3x or even 2x. $150 Fuwalos is criminal.
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You are infull liberty of not buying. Yugioh isn't a ONG, is a profit driven organization; fuwalos isn't even necessary to have fun and by the looks of it, not even needed to top if you are good at ygo. There is a big line between being entitled and being critic, "ygo is criminal with a $150 staple" is entitlement at its finest; peopke at TCG side know what they are doing and are better at business and ygo than what you think.
Imagine me going to a ferrari dealer and telling them it is "criminal" that i cannot afford their cars and that they should be as cheap as toyota's because they are cars.
If they are polite, they will tell me they can't do anything, and that i should buy a toyota instead. If they are not, they would just laugh in my face. Konami is at least nice enough to let you know that waiting will get you better prices.
Every good player i know (the ones that actually play tournaments, unlike you), have 0 comments on prices, their most repeated comment is: "it is what it is, they gotta make money, i don't control what they do or they don't" & most casuals ( aka the obes that buy sealed) just tell me: "cool if i pulk it, but i know i won't and even with good cards, i wouldn't do well at toyrnaments". Listening to people not playing the game and barely buying product is not how you make money, you do by listening to paying customers (the ones playing tournaments, the ones buying packs, the ones buying a lot of singles of newer product). If konami did that, they would think the game is "dead" when sales numbers and attendances are higher than average.
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And the tenpai comment is quite shallow and i g n o r a nt. Is impossible to get any semblance of consistency with tenpai in bo1 against skilled opponents. You don't choose order half the time, that alone disproves you.
Sum that tenpai and anti tenpai are super popular atm (so more uncontrollable factors), and the low skill floor of the deck ( an average player and a good one would change the result less times than with good decks like snake eyes azamina) and no side board decrease the win ratio by itself, a lot. To the point where if you play against anyone good, going first and second randomly, your win ratio will be less than 50%.
Tenpai is good, is just overglorified by unprepared or inexperienced players because their b a d decks get cooked easily. Pretty much all top players avoid playing tenpai for a reason, and that's something you understand when you have played with and against the deck with good players for a while, which you haven't.
@@easyygo3008 cardboard 👏is👏not👏a👏ferrari
Tenpai in Master Duel has been pretty annoying to deal with, but I will say that the number of games against Tenpai that I've won off the back of simply milling a Rise to Full Height is much higher than I was anticipating. If I lose the coin toss and am forced to go first, my #1 goal is to make Curious as soon as possible and mill Rise to Full Height.
Question for you both and chat/comments as well. What would you recommend to someone who has been playing and following yugioh for past 3-4 years, but has never playing with the cards IRL. Like I don’t know most rulings and wouldn’t even know if I’m cheating. But I want to go to a local or play in a tournament
If you've played for 4 years online then you will have a good enough grasp of the rules to go to a local. Distantcoder i believe has some videos on rulings like the damage step, which can help.
I went to my first national after playing for 1 year and it was fine. That was a simpler format though, so I suggest some irl practice especially with keeping track of which cards have used their effects, hard once or soft once per turn etc, as that can win and lose games if your Opp isn't concentrating.
the chronicle stuff in duel links has all been free so far btw
Mulcharmy that draws when your opponent returns a card to hand, deck or extra. Both runick and floo are ruined
I hope we get air neos so I can play Josh’s equation cannons deck
Not as consistent as other decks, but Vaalmonica just hard counter tenpai in a very funny way. Zebufera acts as hugin and even multiple times if you put counters in both turns, the trap destroy field spell and then bounce a monster, could be activate twice
Farfa and Josh again?! Hell yeah
The most non-game I've had into Tenpai so far was my opponent drawing, activating droplet, sending 3, activating L Storm, then NS Paidra into a win. It's been wholly uninteresting the past couple weeks imo
Unchained can be a one card combo with fiendsmith
If those deck trigger hand traps (deck traps?) became a thing, then we'd be saying "aw fk, I drew the out"
think one of the other reasons for unchained not being as popular in MD compared to tcg is prosp was at 3 in tcg for way too long
Tenpai is easier to deal with than the previous meta decks
Luckily Tenpai is so high rarity I don't see as much of it in lower ranks, oe even the festival.
I think I've run into more ice barrier than tenpai playing in the Link group
I push them to top ranks for Master can be a toxic mess.
Honestly same, the amount of other types of decks I saw when playing as link is quite interesting.
I think I vs'd tenpai about 4-5 games out of the 30+ I played. I went against mirror match tenpai more when playing on synchro which makes no sense what so ever but that's konami
@@spicymemes7458I don’t play tenpai, but it sucks in master rank. Since master 3 you can be sure to play 90% against tenpai, so I took out all handtraps and put in only going first cards. Easy wins.
@@Jackinthebox1719 I played Dinomorphia and that worked well against Tenpai. I just don't really want to go through the motions. It's like I disengage with what I am doing otherwise.
The fire one maybe burns for each summon -500 or 800
That's what Yu-Gi-Oh needs, more ways to win in time.
I refuse to craft tour guide. I will die on the hill that it’s a waste of 90 UR in MD
Dumb question but why don’t these videos have ads? I can watch the entire 1-2 hour podcast without an ad popping up. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Does purulia draws 1 card if you just normal summon a monster or do this card mean a normal summon through a effect
Each summon from hand, so all normal summons are covered
Hey infernoids are actually decent. They can push through a bunch of interruption as a blind go second. The small noids can easily bait out interruptions to get the fusion or reasoning off
1:35:30 Farfa absolutely not beating the “hates fun” allegations here 😂
I hope they drop mimighoul early for Halloween related stuff
Next powercreep: extra deck traps.
Ritual beast is going to overperform in MD because its an auto sim, and ritual beast becomes playable when you can track your effect usages and see the flashing lights.
They could go for a Fire-Mulcharmy and call it a day for now and adding Light/Dark later, just like charmers
But for what? The only not yet included would be S/T-zone and token, but even that’s so niche.
@@Jackinthebox1719 as they said themselves, it has to draw you a card, it doesnt HAVE TO be on a summon
@@Icredivmsearcher for other multicharmy,
Josh talking about Ash being banned is wild. Never thought I'd see the day. Ash, CBTG, Crossout need to go and it's crazy that Konami would rather release 12 Maxx Cs instead of just banning those cards.
Listening to farfa bitch about fuwa is music to my ears im glad infinite special decks got shit on. Keep em coming.
Dueling nexus has rarity on it you get without whaling
year 26 is in feb 2025 so we have plenty of time for more quarter century secret rares.
The problem with the yugioh TCG is that there is no accessible bridge from "yugioh as you remember it" to "yugioh as it (as actually) is"
Like do TCG structure decks even mention handtraps im so serious
TCG structure decks usually have handtraps included in them, yes.
I would like to think that structure decks like Albaz Strike and Beware of the Traptrix are a farily decent bridge from old school to modern yugioh in that one enforces fusion summoningm and the other is trap oriented.
I see people bringing this argument a lot 1:40:59 where they think that if high rarity/exclusive products were to be more widely available for everyone for a few bucks, then the company would make more money by the sheer number of customers, but in reality it's been proven that a small minority of players aka the whales keep most of the mobile games running, and this is specially true for gacha games.
I jumped ship during summer this year after almost 20 years of yugioh.
Sometimes i feel the urge to come back but given all the other options I can invest my time and money into in 2024, I feel very comfortable to stay away from this toxic company called Konami.
i have seen more tenpai losing to a 2k defender and 1 imperm than those that find a game winning hand. it just does nothing 90% of the time and that si what we where afraid of
"It could be cool if only 1 slot was dedicated to QCR nostalgia" says the person talking about a set that was announced to only have 1 slot dedicated to QCR nostalgia
I think of all the Tenpai games I've played, between event or ladder or challenge cups, one was a real game and not a "game"
The deck isn't fun in best of one, and it's not fun in best of three for Master Duel
Of course Josh likes fuwalos he can afford it
10:45 I've always thought Air Neos got cucked because of Air Jordans
Mango Mango Mango Mango Mango
Yugitube really needs to stop bringing this topic to class
13:00 Boomer alert! In Retro Formats you are supposed to play with QCRs and Speed Duel Secret Rares to burn the soul of every boomer.
Iam sure shifter will get banned after nyalos hits the format , hes not needed anymore than
Tenpai resulted in an easier experience than in TCG due to the best-of-one factor. Trap decks have the advantage against Tenpai and there is plenty of tech cards that you can use. Tenpai only gets better with a side deck.
12:10 rarity two was and is a great set, it was just WAY overpriced. $10 a pack MSRP, that’s why people were upset. $10 for 9 cards is pure BS.
Bring in the…“IF yOuR’e BrOKe JuSt SaY iT” comments…🤤🥴
OK BUD. 🖕
Not to be an “um actually”, but, duel links has had for years now, events where you can spend gems to turn a card into a prisma. It cost like 1500 gems, so still insanely expensive, and the new method is way better, but it’s something master duel could bring for now until Konami implements special processing for Master Duel. 1:42:13
35:47 Heretic.
I am more excited to play Pokemon pocket than Yu-Gi-Oh.
All the upcoming Maxx c, fiendsmith and after a year of snake eyes, tearlaments and broken decks back to back I am kinda off the game
I want to live in a world where Gabonga is a decent deck beyond gold rank at release, is that too much to ask?
Is that a challenge for me to turn goblin biker into ryzeoll?
Did you ever understand that rank 3 have
1. Ashura king
2. Cicada king
3. Gossip
Use gabonga as an ash bait or if you can you summon ashura first then summon gabonga.
@@r3zaful how to play Goblin Bikers:
-Open starter + 5 extenders+ out to Maxx C
-make a board full of monster negates
- get boardwiped by raigeki and otk by Tenpai
- derank
@@Badbufoncrazy beast isn't real card I see
It’s boring and it smells.
Vote for little D. Guys
josh's takes on mulchamy's (especially fuwalos) are kinda irritating to hear from a casual/local perspective... not everyone wants or HAS to play a lab deck or paleozoic or whatever runick stuff you play in order to not just die from 1 card... yes there are stupidly broken combo decks that finish on insane endboards but there are also combo decks that don't even finish on much to begin with and get absolutely destroyed now by 1 card just for trying to make their 2-3 endboard cards..
yall been saying for ever how max C is a problem and how it hinders deck building by having to main 6-7 other cards in order to counter it and now we have literally 9 of them for every kind of deck to have in your disposal..
how exactly are decks without a 1 card combo supposed to counter that when they can't play 18-20 non engine cards? they just die cuz of that 1 card existing... just like shifter is for like 95% of the decks that exist..
P.S. a card that costs ~350-400$ for a playset CANNOT be a fix to any problem btw.. if anything it makes the gap between local players, new players, or ppl who simply want to have a good time for couple hours per week even bigger and make them think about giving up the game or simply not start to begin with..
It's bad.
Literally uninstalled MD this week, I used to love the game but these formats are making me go crazy
Tenpai results in so many non-games and is so popular it's pretty frustrating.
They can't print their way out of the modern game so it's going to be hovering in the realm of bad to unplayable until it dies.
Skill issue.
@@Ragnarok540I would love to know what your plan is against Tenpai when they go second opening 2 breakers, 2 starters, 1 extender, and a Called by.
Yugioh is boring and annoying right now also unaffordable and unreliable lol without generics like we had 2 years ago the game just sucks
Mulcharmy getdunkdia, draw each time your opponent sends a card from hand to GY.