In this video, I'm joined by musical genius Dimitrios Dallas to talk about the instruments that constitute the vast repertoire of Greek traditional music. Truly some Epic Talking Source mentionned in the video: www.academia.edu/2154302/Westernization_of_Greek_music 00:00 Intro 03:09 Bagpipes and reeds 16:19 Flutes and clarinet 21:00 Bowed instruments 35:00 Lutes 47:20 Kanonaki and santouri 51:20 Percussions 55:10 Context of Greek music 58:55 Regional diversity 59:46 Rythmic patterns 1:02:10 It's always changing 1:03:21 Pitch in the modal traditions 1:06:20 Westernisation and revival
Δημήτρη ευχαριστουμε για τα βυζαντινά επικά τραγούδια, να ξες έχουν γίνει πολύ διάσημα, τα χρησιμοποιεί πολύς ξένος κόσμος για βίντεο/games/edits για εκείνη την εποχή
At this point i feel like we have to make Farya a minister of culture here in Greece because he knows more about Greek culture than the vast majority of Greeks.
I’m as tone deaf as a barn door. Married to a Greek and the accompanying host of 4,000 relatives. Yet being from an entirely different background, the music is mystical to me. These blokes have blown me away with their talent and infinite range of musical knowledge. I bow to your artistic talent and just the bewitching power of your music. Opa!
As a native Thracian from Turkey, what you said about Thrace in the gaida part is absolutely true, I feel closer to Thracians from Bulgaria and Greece than other Turks in Anatolia.
This is probably the most educational video about Greek folk music I've watched. Thank you both for this. Such a shame Gaida and Zurna are being replaced by the clarinet. I love how it sounds but it's nothing like our old instruments. Here in Macedonia we have the last big Zurna players in Greece. Most Macedonian musicians learn the copper wind instruments which were introduced to the region in the early 20th century. They too are an incredible tradition, but they have basically wiped out the native instruments.
For the sake of history, let me tell you that in the area my roots are from, the south of Euboaea Island, there used to be a special kind of tsambouna with a bass flute, called Τσαμπούνα με ζουρνά. My mother remembers old men playing it at local feasts when she was a kid. There is only one recorded documentation of this instrument, from the last man who had one in 1977. You can see that recording here: ruclips.net/video/l6b1SHzUL3k/видео.htmlsi=z8QFcjNPIbby67sf
Oh the "aman aman" lyric is fascinating because Nahuatl singers of Mexico do the same thing! When the Nahua run out of lyrics they sing "ohuaya, ohuaya" (oh-WAH-yah).
Interestingly, German has "auweia", which sounds extremely similar and also has a similar meaning. It derives from an older word for hurt or pain, "Weh", so would have meant "oh pain!" or with the English cognate "oh woe!" (although the contemporary expression is milder and less dramatic).
There is a comedy by Aristophanes called "Lysistrata" that mentions that the spartans learned to play the ASKAVLOS that means (ἀσκός askos - wine-skin, αὐλός aulos - reed pipe). Also Aristotelis mentions a kind of bagpipe in "Musika".
It is indeed moving to see one's own culture reaching a vast audience because of someone's good efforts. Also, Dimitrios is such a legend. Much admiration and respect from Athens, Greece.
It's impossible to describe how educative this video is on so many levels. Greetings from Croatia, from one very classically educated musician... Wish I could discern all the quarter tones like Bizantine cantor or differentiate more than twelve notes in the octave (53:) (this is not sarcasm, but pure truth...sometimes I even wonder if the classical music as we were trained (drilled) to do even sounded the way they train us... Anyway, love your channel, maybe you could cover something about Gregorian chant, Guidonian hand and the beginnings of such "poor" music palette that we have in the Western classical music. But with neither political correctness nor outright offenses :) just calmly as you cover all other topics.... Cause we need to know!!! People rarely discuss these topics in the western edu system, they just do the drill. Thanks in advance!! Cheers brother
10:13 similar example is the guitar, brought to Hawaii by the Spanish and Mexican vaqueros, turned into the lap and pedal steel and used beautifully in their cultural music and then exported to the US mainland where it has been so ingrained into traditional “western” American music that it is indistinguishable with the “classic” country music sound. Who’s instrument is it? Who’s culture does it belong to? All of them? I love your videos so much. Love the bagpipe discussion guys. Thank you for the knowledge.
14:00 There are also Greeks at another, Northern corner of the Pontos, Black Sea, living here for several millennia since like 7-6th century BCE. I'm from this region, Southern Ukraine, and my neighbour is a Greek. His ancestors were winemakers in the Crimea, but were forcefully moved from their homeland during WW2 Stalin's deportations. My neighbour doesn't speak Greek (like many others that were partially or fully assimilated), but he also makes wine like his ancestors and still recognizes his ethnicity as Greek. Another large group of Northern Pontic Greeks are Pryazovian Greeks (Greeks of Northern Azov Sea), that are divided into Greek-speaking part that are calling themselves Rumeys (literally Romans - notice this fascinating preserved Roman/Byzantine identity) and Turkic-speaking Urums (that adopted language of Crimean Tatars). A city with the largest Greek population was Mariupol (name of Greek origin: Μαριούπολη), and it is the city that suffered the most and was turned into a ruins during the beginning of Russian invasion in 2022. Not to mention the many Greek-speaking villages that suffered from military actions. So yes, even now Pontic Greeks are suffering and dying. Much love from Ukraine! And thank you for the great and insightful video, Farya and Demetrie (I hope I used vocative correct here)! I was waiting for this since the "Instruments of Iran" video.
More like a face reveal. He has been featured in some music of this channel if i am not mistaken. Basically an unsung hero. Edit: Yeah definitely has played a lot of pieces for this channel. One of them being Terirem.
Absolutely amazing interview! Dimitrios stands out as exceptional among other musicians. One aspect of Dimitrios that he modestly downplays is his support for the next generation of Greek folk musicians. He has generously helped me with videos and advice to learn the Askoumandoura, an instrument often gatekept by others, and has also assisted many of my friends with learning other instruments. He truly is one of a kind. Ευχαριστώ πολύ για όλα όσα έχεις κάνει για εμάς!
Farya as a Greek I want to thank you for preserving through your songs all these beautiful cultures. Ancient Greece/Hellas , Persia and many more. Listening to your songs you have perfectly understood what was Ancient Greece. For me Hellenic civilization was the East of the West and the West of the East simultaneously and that is why it always attracted all people. I too so believe the same about Ancient Persia because although it was more of an eastern civilization it still had many so called “western” characteristics and I mean that in a positive way. I may be wrong though , you know better for sure.😂❤
Just a few minutes in and I already freaking love this one. Awesome collaboration from two amazing musicians!! Traditional Greek music is so rich. Πολύ ωραία!!
Fantastic! As someone with western Music Theory training, a lot of these topics are (for lack of a better term) foreign to me. So, I find myself absolutely enraptured by the sounds of these styles and instruments, and your very particular explanations of them. I find it a great opportunity to learn new things. Well done, keep up the great work
This instruments are practically played all over the Balkans and the Mediterranean...for example all of this instruments are played in my country Croatia (especially Dalmatia) also. It's fascinating how musically connected all this vast places are. Aman aman region as you say
Absolutely amazing video! Spot on the part about westernization. If I can expand on it a little. Rembetiko is quite interesting because the early musicians of the style were used to modal music and its instruments but got to play fretted instruments designed for tonal music (bouzouki and guitar) so their approach was a mixture of the styles. One such example would be that for the 3-course bouzouki existed several different tunings alongside D-A-D (which was sometimes called the Italian tuning) that were meant to easily play drones with similar to the different tunings of a tampouras. These eventually faded away as D-A-D can easily play all of the “tonalized” modes in all keys. So the rempetiko musicians played tonal music because of their main instruments but thought in modal music in many cases. I think the ultimate example of this is how composing around the hicaz mode developed from rempetiko to laiko. The rempetes would write a hicaz song around a single voice melody on the bouzouki and would empirically say that hicaz was very difficult to have multiple voices on. This was due to the fact that they perceived it more closely to the way the original maqam was played. On the other hand, when Manolis Hiotis came along (and other contemporaries of his), they thought of hicaz as a mode (in the western sense) of the harmonic minor and so the songs started being harmonized based on western rules on harmonizing the harmonic minor scale.
Farya and Dimitrie, i really enjoyed this episode last night! And thank you for all your hard work for researching the traditions, explaining them too us interested (i am a softwaredeveloper of greek descendent living abroad). I have roots from Epirus, Thrakh, Konstantinople and Smyrna. Amazing variaty of instruments and music. The sounds touch my soul. I think young people are rediscovering the rich musical heritage again and we can listen to conteporary (greek) music again.
The thing about the Pontian lyra being modelled after a woman's body reminds me of a Slovak folk ballad. In the story, a mother curses her daughter to turn into a maple tree. The daughter then asks some passing musicians to make a 'husle' (folk violin) out of her. They then go and play a song for the mother in which they compare parts of the instrument to parts of the daughter's body to remind her of what she had done.
The gaida has a warmer tone to it, it makes for a nice contrast to the sound of the reed. Being brasilian and unnacostumed to drones in general I find that though it's melodies imply a festive atmosphere, they make me feel rather lethargic. Beautiful music nonetheless! Υπέροχο βίντεο φίλε, να είσαι καλά
Could one expect anything less than godly perfection when the Greek music polymath @Dimitrios_Dallas collaborates with Farya, the master of Iranian music?
Yaaay! I work in 8 hours from now, but I'm not missing this :) Zourna! I remember 3 gypsy kids that came to my mom's village in Thrace during the easter feast and they were playing an instrument that looked like metalic (?) big zourna and daouli. The soundcolor was insane. I tried to find a zourna teacher in Athens afterwards, but I couldn't! Thank you guys for the overview! PS: what to say about Dimitris Dallas, respect (playing all those instuments well)
greek music for ears of west people is exotic and more familiar to midle easters. makedonian gaida is different from tracian(your mind to greek latter Γ but to updown site) the first zourna is from aerea of messologi, roumeli naousa roumlouki and serres have outher zournas. the makedonian lira is other lira from thracian. Love Persia from Hellas!
Farya and Dimitrios, the smartest, the most talented and the funniest people I've ever seen. A great interview. I liked it very much! And I laughed, really. Another thing that amazed me (I know that it is not related to music but it caught my attention) is that you, Farya, drive. How!?! How?! Since when?! You're brilliant, Farya! And musically and culturally and from a driving point of view (that's why you really amazed me). BTW, what car do you have? So curious because today I talked to my father about launching an anniversary car: Dacia Logan XX.
this was incredible to watch, thank you for your continued work! i'd be so interested in this becoming a series of sorts with a deep dive into the instruments of different regions -- i'm biased to see poland represented haha, but iranian folk tradition, bulgarian, armenian etc would all be great to see
this is gold. thank you both of you for the effort. It is an amazing episode, I ve learned a lot, and many wrong information are corrected in one video. ☀
I think you adding stock footage from the regions where the music being played is originated is an incredible way to paint a coherent picture of the history being shown.
Sorry for this shameless plug-in for one of my favourite greek bands but if someone wants to listen to some fussion of punk-rock and traditional tunes from Thrace go listen to Thrax Punks.
liking it now to watch it later, my job is preventing me from giving my favorite Iranian man living in phone my attention at the right moment he posts 😔
Gorgeous video Farya, truly gorgeous. Have you thought about doing this but instead of instruments, do it about chanting/singing? It would be very interesting to compare the different singing traditions of the regions in those places, and hopefuly get a better understanding on how to sing like them.
music lives and survives when then context is right. in greece i see a lot of hope for modal music and mediterranean instruments (kanonaki oud) to survive. why? because i see young people playing it. i see it played on the streets in tavernas and i see youtub chanels of young people getting together and playing it. it seems like greece has a political and social climate that favours musicians. you cant ignore that greece has only 10 million people and still a huge variety of instruments and musicians. its weird but i feel like i see it more than in egypt lebanon or morocco. correct me if im wrong. i write this as an moroccan. in morocco we have a music conservatory protecting and teaching the classical music (andaloussi) . and still young people who socialize in cafes would not take out a kanon and play it. there are othere more indiginouse berber instruents thats are played. but not so much kanun. kanun is considered classic high class and orchestra and only someone who studies it plays it. in greece they dont have a music conservatory like in instanbul for turk sanat muzigi but still the music and practice survives. so i truly belive these styles and instrument are indigenous and folk and may they be played by them for 2500 years more inshallah.
I have just discovered your channel and i have been impressed by your deep knowledge about the Greek music tradition. Everything you discussed with Dimitris and your analysis about the phases of Greek music the last 60 years, was on point! It shows a person with absolute knowledge on the subject. Being a Greek musician myself(not even near capable as Dimitris and yourself), i need to confirm this feeling of revival of the traditional Greek music forms and instruments. There are a lot of young musician that learn those instruments in the country and they are pretty good with them.
Abou the cretan laouto: i heard from the olders that they muted the sound to give emphasis to the lyra. Also in the past where they didnt have speakers etc they made their laouto bigger than the steriano laouto, so more people could here the music.
There is a part of Thrace wich is called western Romilia were they use the gainta but in higher pitch but they use the accordion a lot. A very characteristic song of west romilia is "στις τρεις"
Really nice presetation about musical intruments.... also the demostration with the pontic lyra when it`s played it gives like a melancholyc vibe(kinda like slow and sad), maybe beacuse the strings on the pontic lyra are tuned for like types of low pitched sounds unlike the ohers that go for higher pitches ?
In this video, I'm joined by musical genius Dimitrios Dallas to talk about the instruments that constitute the vast repertoire of Greek traditional music. Truly some Epic Talking
Source mentionned in the video:
www.academia.edu/2154302/Westernization_of_Greek_music
00:00 Intro
03:09 Bagpipes and reeds
16:19 Flutes and clarinet
21:00 Bowed instruments
35:00 Lutes
47:20 Kanonaki and santouri
51:20 Percussions
55:10 Context of Greek music
58:55 Regional diversity
59:46 Rythmic patterns
1:02:10 It's always changing
1:03:21 Pitch in the modal traditions
1:06:20 Westernisation and revival
Yes, so epic, that my back pain and need to wake up at 5 in the morning will not allow me to watch it right away.
My brain stopped when you started speaking Greek 💀, I thought I was tripping (I am a Greek speaker)
I cannot thank you enough Farya for this. It was truly a pleasure meeting you in person and sharing these moments with you!
The pleasure was mine brother, this was a blast
Δημήτρη ευχαριστουμε για τα βυζαντινά επικά τραγούδια, να ξες έχουν γίνει πολύ διάσημα, τα χρησιμοποιεί πολύς ξένος κόσμος για βίντεο/games/edits για εκείνη την εποχή
It was such a great experience to watch you both! What an amazing historical musical lesson! Greetings from a Bulgarian living in FL! 🇬🇷❤️🇧🇬
Είσαι βιρτουόζος Μήτσο! Υπέροχη συνεργασία. Ευχαριστούμε για όλη τη γνώση που μοιραστηκατε μαζί μας
At this point i feel like we have to make Farya a minister of culture here in Greece because he knows more about Greek culture than the vast majority of Greeks.
Man, I knew Dimitrios was good, but I had no idea he was *that* good. You can't find players like that even in the old country.
Fr, guy is incredible
I’m as tone deaf as a barn door. Married to a Greek and the accompanying host of 4,000 relatives. Yet being from an entirely different background, the music is mystical to me. These blokes have blown me away with their talent and infinite range of musical knowledge. I bow to your artistic talent and just the bewitching power of your music. Opa!
This man is basically Heracles after completing his 12 labours! 💪🏼🇬🇷
more like 40 something I lost count pretty quick, that guy is exceptional
Lost it with the "aman aman" region :') Definitely adopting the term
Dimitrios has been nothing but excellence, I'm so glad to have been introduced to him from your channel. Greek Fire!
❤❤❤
Amazing! Love from Bulgaria 🇬🇷🇧🇬❤
Wow, as a Pontian, thanks for your kind words. If I could blush, I would.
As a native Thracian from Turkey, what you said about Thrace in the gaida part is absolutely true, I feel closer to Thracians from Bulgaria and Greece than other Turks in Anatolia.
This is probably the most educational video about Greek folk music I've watched. Thank you both for this.
Such a shame Gaida and Zurna are being replaced by the clarinet. I love how it sounds but it's nothing like our old instruments. Here in Macedonia we have the last big Zurna players in Greece. Most Macedonian musicians learn the copper wind instruments which were introduced to the region in the early 20th century. They too are an incredible tradition, but they have basically wiped out the native instruments.
For the sake of history, let me tell you that in the area my roots are from, the south of Euboaea Island, there used to be a special kind of tsambouna with a bass flute, called Τσαμπούνα με ζουρνά. My mother remembers old men playing it at local feasts when she was a kid. There is only one recorded documentation of this instrument, from the last man who had one in 1977. You can see that recording here:
ruclips.net/video/l6b1SHzUL3k/видео.htmlsi=z8QFcjNPIbby67sf
Two incredibly skilled people shedding light on a very underrated topic.
Good to see a Persian and a Greek sharing musical experience like friends instead of swording each other :D
An Achaemenid coexisting with a Greek
Took about....a couple thousand years :p
@@ManfredTheFirstBetter late than never.
Even in the middle ages where we still were enemies, I believe Persians/Iranians were the people we had the most respect towards…
Friendship is one of the main values in the world and music always unite us in the best way!! Greetings from Hellas 🇬🇷❤
Oh the "aman aman" lyric is fascinating because Nahuatl singers of Mexico do the same thing! When the Nahua run out of lyrics they sing "ohuaya, ohuaya" (oh-WAH-yah).
Interesting! Is it a ‘filler word’ or is there a particular meaning or emotion associated with the word?
@@russergee49 its.. complicated. a very crude narrow approximation could be pointing to the English term "alas"
I think that "filler words" is one of those things that are practically universal. You even find them in modern western music.
@@ΣτελιοςΠεππας even the simple word "yeah" does the trick, too
Interestingly, German has "auweia", which sounds extremely similar and also has a similar meaning. It derives from an older word for hurt or pain, "Weh", so would have meant "oh pain!" or with the English cognate "oh woe!" (although the contemporary expression is milder and less dramatic).
There is a comedy by Aristophanes called "Lysistrata" that mentions that the spartans learned to play the ASKAVLOS that means (ἀσκός askos - wine-skin, αὐλός aulos - reed pipe).
Also Aristotelis mentions a kind of bagpipe in "Musika".
It is indeed moving to see one's own culture reaching a vast audience because of someone's good efforts. Also, Dimitrios is such a legend.
Much admiration and respect from Athens, Greece.
It's impossible to describe how educative this video is on so many levels. Greetings from Croatia, from one very classically educated musician... Wish I could discern all the quarter tones like Bizantine cantor or differentiate more than twelve notes in the octave (53:) (this is not sarcasm, but pure truth...sometimes I even wonder if the classical music as we were trained (drilled) to do even sounded the way they train us...
Anyway, love your channel, maybe you could cover something about Gregorian chant, Guidonian hand and the beginnings of such "poor" music palette that we have in the Western classical music. But with neither political correctness nor outright offenses :) just calmly as you cover all other topics.... Cause we need to know!!! People rarely discuss these topics in the western edu system, they just do the drill. Thanks in advance!! Cheers brother
10:13 similar example is the guitar, brought to Hawaii by the Spanish and Mexican vaqueros, turned into the lap and pedal steel and used beautifully in their cultural music and then exported to the US mainland where it has been so ingrained into traditional “western” American music that it is indistinguishable with the “classic” country music sound. Who’s instrument is it? Who’s culture does it belong to? All of them? I love your videos so much. Love the bagpipe discussion guys. Thank you for the knowledge.
Farya's dedication to lovingly documenting each culture is incredible
Farya’s constant quality content on our culture is considered reparations for the Greco-Persian wars in my eyes. Mpravo file mou
Ρε αδερφέ, τους γάμησε ο Αλέκος, τι άλλο θέλεις δηλαδή;
Farya,once again,introducing our diverse culture to everybody with knowledge and love for it.Can't thank you enough brother ❤
As lor living in Iran, it's fascinating the similarity. About the dancing leading the song we have it too. Mad respect to Greece brothers.
14:00 There are also Greeks at another, Northern corner of the Pontos, Black Sea, living here for several millennia since like 7-6th century BCE. I'm from this region, Southern Ukraine, and my neighbour is a Greek. His ancestors were winemakers in the Crimea, but were forcefully moved from their homeland during WW2 Stalin's deportations. My neighbour doesn't speak Greek (like many others that were partially or fully assimilated), but he also makes wine like his ancestors and still recognizes his ethnicity as Greek.
Another large group of Northern Pontic Greeks are Pryazovian Greeks (Greeks of Northern Azov Sea), that are divided into Greek-speaking part that are calling themselves Rumeys (literally Romans - notice this fascinating preserved Roman/Byzantine identity) and Turkic-speaking Urums (that adopted language of Crimean Tatars). A city with the largest Greek population was Mariupol (name of Greek origin: Μαριούπολη), and it is the city that suffered the most and was turned into a ruins during the beginning of Russian invasion in 2022. Not to mention the many Greek-speaking villages that suffered from military actions. So yes, even now Pontic Greeks are suffering and dying.
Much love from Ukraine! And thank you for the great and insightful video, Farya and Demetrie (I hope I used vocative correct here)! I was waiting for this since the "Instruments of Iran" video.
Yepp, my mom was one quarter Russian Pontian Greek. Born in Feodosia, came to mainland Greece as a 9 yo just before WWII.
Ok the more I watch this the more I’m convinced that musicians like you and Dimitrios are wizards that are able to contort sound to your will
The man, the myth, the legend, the GOD, Dimitrios has joined Faraji!
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
More like a face reveal. He has been featured in some music of this channel if i am not mistaken. Basically an unsung hero.
Edit: Yeah definitely has played a lot of pieces for this channel. One of them being Terirem.
This is quickly becoming my favourite music channel
Absolutely amazing interview! Dimitrios stands out as exceptional among other musicians. One aspect of Dimitrios that he modestly downplays is his support for the next generation of Greek folk musicians.
He has generously helped me with videos and advice to learn the Askoumandoura, an instrument often gatekept by others, and has also assisted many of my friends with learning other instruments. He truly is one of a kind.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ για όλα όσα έχεις κάνει για εμάς!
I've never seen a stringed instrument incorporate bells before. That's pretty cool, not gonna lie.
Having bells on the bow is brilliant!
Farya as a Greek I want to thank you for preserving through your songs all these beautiful cultures. Ancient Greece/Hellas , Persia and many more. Listening to your songs you have perfectly understood what was Ancient Greece. For me Hellenic civilization was the East of the West and the West of the East simultaneously and that is why it always attracted all people. I too so believe the same about Ancient Persia because although it was more of an eastern civilization it still had many so called “western” characteristics and I mean that in a positive way. I may be wrong though , you know better for sure.😂❤
Just a few minutes in and I already freaking love this one. Awesome collaboration from two amazing musicians!! Traditional Greek music is so rich. Πολύ ωραία!!
Two brilliant descendants of two ancient civilizations. Culturally, linguistically and musicwise the richest. Wish you all the best guys !
Fantastic! As someone with western Music Theory training, a lot of these topics are (for lack of a better term) foreign to me. So, I find myself absolutely enraptured by the sounds of these styles and instruments, and your very particular explanations of them. I find it a great opportunity to learn new things.
Well done, keep up the great work
It's so weird hearing all these instruments isolated after a lifetime of experiencing them together
Persia love Greek 🇮🇷🤍🇬🇷
Σου στέλνω πολύ αγάπη από Ελλάδα 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷❤️
This instruments are practically played all over the Balkans and the Mediterranean...for example all of this instruments are played in my country Croatia (especially Dalmatia) also. It's fascinating how musically connected all this vast places are. Aman aman region as you say
nice to see that dalmatia has it too. i feel not all mediterranena regions have it.... see italy
Absolutely amazing video! Spot on the part about westernization.
If I can expand on it a little. Rembetiko is quite interesting because the early musicians of the style were used to modal music and its instruments but got to play fretted instruments designed for tonal music (bouzouki and guitar) so their approach was a mixture of the styles.
One such example would be that for the 3-course bouzouki existed several different tunings alongside D-A-D (which was sometimes called the Italian tuning) that were meant to easily play drones with similar to the different tunings of a tampouras. These eventually faded away as D-A-D can easily play all of the “tonalized” modes in all keys.
So the rempetiko musicians played tonal music because of their main instruments but thought in modal music in many cases. I think the ultimate example of this is how composing around the hicaz mode developed from rempetiko to laiko. The rempetes would write a hicaz song around a single voice melody on the bouzouki and would empirically say that hicaz was very difficult to have multiple voices on. This was due to the fact that they perceived it more closely to the way the original maqam was played.
On the other hand, when Manolis Hiotis came along (and other contemporaries of his), they thought of hicaz as a mode (in the western sense) of the harmonic minor and so the songs started being harmonized based on western rules on harmonizing the harmonic minor scale.
Ah great, how am I supposed to get my homework done now when these two legends are in one video?
This is a collector’s video. Very valuable documentation to be safeguarded for future reference
OH MY GOD IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A NEW EPIC TALKING FOR SO LONG!! I literally jumped outta the chair seeing this! AND IT HAS DIMITRIOS DALLAS TOO!
Ευχαριστώ πολύ από το Άργος
I discovered Dimitri from instagram a year or so ago and I would love to see him live. Amazing talent
My English is not good enough to express how much of a pleasure was this one
Είσαι ωραίος man!
Farya and Dimitrie, i really enjoyed this episode last night! And thank you for all your hard work for researching the traditions, explaining them too us interested (i am a softwaredeveloper of greek descendent living abroad). I have roots from Epirus, Thrakh, Konstantinople and Smyrna. Amazing variaty of instruments and music. The sounds touch my soul. I think young people are rediscovering the rich musical heritage again and we can listen to conteporary (greek) music again.
i love the picture of Bob Marley right below the right elbow of Dimitrios. Bob made "nisiotika" too! (island music) :D
The thing about the Pontian lyra being modelled after a woman's body reminds me of a Slovak folk ballad. In the story, a mother curses her daughter to turn into a maple tree. The daughter then asks some passing musicians to make a 'husle' (folk violin) out of her. They then go and play a song for the mother in which they compare parts of the instrument to parts of the daughter's body to remind her of what she had done.
The gaida has a warmer tone to it, it makes for a nice contrast to the sound of the reed. Being brasilian and unnacostumed to drones in general I find that though it's melodies imply a festive atmosphere, they make me feel rather lethargic. Beautiful music nonetheless! Υπέροχο βίντεο φίλε, να είσαι καλά
Greetings from Epirus στον συνονόματο! Fantastic video once again Farya!
Γεια σου πατρίδα!
Fantastic and useful epic talk. Thank you fariya an dimitrios.
I would love to be introduced to that wall of musicians behind him. A playlist would be awesome.
Could one expect anything less than godly perfection when the Greek music polymath @Dimitrios_Dallas collaborates with Farya, the master of Iranian music?
YO THIS IS MY DREAM COLLAB
Shared cultures of Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Albania, etc.... So amazing indeed. Thracian culture is shared by Bulgarians, Turks, Bulgarians, Pomaks, Vlachs, etc
9:19 two drones at once????? Bro that’s insane! J’ai jamais entendu ça!
Btw, yo, Dimitrios yé insane!
Εξαιρετικό βίντεο, Farya. Ευχαριστούμε!
What an awesome channel! Wishing you millions of more followers
εφτυσα καφε οταν ειπε "στο αργος!¨
So glad you have this video. I've been wondering all about these instruments. Very grateful for your time, each of you.
Argos Greece has changed a lot since the last time i 've been there! 😁
Im amazed with the mandolin. Absolutely perfect!!
A note for the viewers. At 24:17, γεράκι/yeraki means hawk in particular
Good note! Thinking on the fly, I miss half of the stuff I wanted to say ;)
Yaaay! I work in 8 hours from now, but I'm not missing this :)
Zourna! I remember 3 gypsy kids that came to my mom's village in Thrace during the easter feast and they were playing an instrument that looked like metalic (?) big zourna and daouli. The soundcolor was insane. I tried to find a zourna teacher in Athens afterwards, but I couldn't!
Thank you guys for the overview!
PS: what to say about Dimitris Dallas, respect (playing all those instuments well)
greek music for ears of west people is exotic and more familiar to midle easters. makedonian gaida is different from tracian(your mind to greek latter Γ but to updown site) the first zourna is from aerea of messologi, roumeli naousa roumlouki and serres have outher zournas. the makedonian lira is other lira from thracian. Love Persia from Hellas!
Mr Souvlakis IS BACK!! Finally! Farya i love your content dude stay AWESOME and be AMAZING as insanely as always
Man it’s 12 AM and I didn’t know what video to watch and eat, and the CHAD HIMSLEF comes in clutch دەست خوش فاریا جون❤
I love seeing you speak Greek
Farya and Dimitrios, the smartest, the most talented and the funniest people I've ever seen. A great interview. I liked it very much! And I laughed, really. Another thing that amazed me (I know that it is not related to music but it caught my attention) is that you, Farya, drive. How!?! How?! Since when?! You're brilliant, Farya! And musically and culturally and from a driving point of view (that's why you really amazed me).
BTW, what car do you have? So curious because today I talked to my father about launching an anniversary car: Dacia Logan XX.
this was incredible to watch, thank you for your continued work! i'd be so interested in this becoming a series of sorts with a deep dive into the instruments of different regions -- i'm biased to see poland represented haha, but iranian folk tradition, bulgarian, armenian etc would all be great to see
The slurping part was fucking hilarious. 😅
Imagine Dimitris making copies of himself and starting a band
Great job Farya for bringing awareness to greek musical tradition.
this is gold. thank you both of you for the effort.
It is an amazing episode, I ve learned a lot, and many wrong information are corrected in one video. ☀
I think you adding stock footage from the regions where the music being played is originated is an incredible way to paint a coherent picture of the history being shown.
Sorry for this shameless plug-in for one of my favourite greek bands but if someone wants to listen to some fussion of punk-rock and traditional tunes from Thrace go listen to Thrax Punks.
Also their cover of Margoudi (the tune from around 16:42) is one of my favourite songs to wake up to.
Obligatory angry comment - this has murdered my memory of my vacation in Greece. I've been nowhere if I didn't see/hear this!
..Άρχοντες!!
Amazing. Thank you very much
liking it now to watch it later, my job is preventing me from giving my favorite Iranian man living in phone my attention at the right moment he posts 😔
The aman aman region! Hahahahaha its so funny but its true.
Gorgeous video Farya, truly gorgeous. Have you thought about doing this but instead of instruments, do it about chanting/singing? It would be very interesting to compare the different singing traditions of the regions in those places, and hopefuly get a better understanding on how to sing like them.
I am literally astonished of how deep you understand greek music and its variations my Persian friend. Kudos!
Great video
Thank you
music lives and survives when then context is right. in greece i see a lot of hope for modal music and mediterranean instruments (kanonaki oud) to survive. why? because i see young people playing it. i see it played on the streets in tavernas and i see youtub chanels of young people getting together and playing it. it seems like greece has a political and social climate that favours musicians. you cant ignore that greece has only 10 million people and still a huge variety of instruments and musicians. its weird but i feel like i see it more than in egypt lebanon or morocco. correct me if im wrong. i write this as an moroccan. in morocco we have a music conservatory protecting and teaching the classical music (andaloussi) . and still young people who socialize in cafes would not take out a kanon and play it. there are othere more indiginouse berber instruents thats are played. but not so much kanun. kanun is considered classic high class and orchestra and only someone who studies it plays it. in greece they dont have a music conservatory like in instanbul for turk sanat muzigi but still the music and practice survives. so i truly belive these styles and instrument are indigenous and folk and may they be played by them for 2500 years more inshallah.
Bravo guys I am very proud of you
I have just discovered your channel and i have been impressed by your deep knowledge about the Greek music tradition. Everything you discussed with Dimitris and your analysis about the phases of Greek music the last 60 years, was on point! It shows a person with absolute knowledge on the subject. Being a Greek musician myself(not even near capable as Dimitris and yourself), i need to confirm this feeling of revival of the traditional Greek music forms and instruments. There are a lot of young musician that learn those instruments in the country and they are pretty good with them.
with the clarinet playing such a huge role in both styles, i would love to see a greek/klezmer fusion
They exist, I think Greek music is popular in Israel
You are a great interviewer Farya!
This will be a video that I’m going to enjoy a lot... thanks, Farya! (;
As a metalhead, I can't get enough of this shredding at 1:16:11
Abou the cretan laouto: i heard from the olders that they muted the sound to give emphasis to the lyra. Also in the past where they didnt have speakers etc they made their laouto bigger than the steriano laouto, so more people could here the music.
Awesome info's.
thanks guys!
There is a part of Thrace wich is called western Romilia were they use the gainta but in higher pitch but they use the accordion a lot. A very characteristic song of west romilia is "στις τρεις"
Amazing video, you guys are doing awesome work.I love all the little impromptu jams you get into, it brings me joy!
Thanks for the greek mention of a 1 hour video❤
Dimitrios' lungs are God's strongest warriors 😂
😂😂😂😂
That is simply amazing. Props to you and everything you're doing.
Really nice presetation about musical intruments.... also the demostration with the pontic lyra when it`s played it gives like a melancholyc vibe(kinda like slow and sad), maybe beacuse the strings on the pontic lyra are tuned for like types of low pitched sounds unlike the ohers that go for higher pitches ?