Responding to Haters - Epic Talking

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

Комментарии • 592

  • @faryafaraji
    @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +1456

    call me a germanic mythology man cuz i be dealing with trolls lel

    • @Riccksu
      @Riccksu 2 месяца назад +40

      @@faryafaraji lots of love from Sicily, Farya, I've been a listener for a long time now ❤️

    • @krismagliaro9634
      @krismagliaro9634 2 месяца назад +8

      🤣 haha

    • @Aureus_
      @Aureus_ 2 месяца назад +18

      Bro is Woden himself 🤣

    • @lukernman
      @lukernman 2 месяца назад +12

      daddy farya

    • @lekamarade
      @lekamarade 2 месяца назад +1

      Ok

  • @IoanCenturion
    @IoanCenturion 2 месяца назад +784

    A lot of these comments are funny to me as a Byzantine chanter myself, because I heard some of the Epic Byzantine Music pieces and thought 'Huh, that doesn't sound like Byzantine chant', and so I went and read the description and went 'I see, it's not meant to be Ecclesiastical Chant from the current tradition of post 18th century reformed music, it's a. Secular and b. Not from the exact same time period'.
    But apparently a bunch of other people immediately jumped to "Clearly this is totally fake and he's scamming us because this folk song about a local hero doesn't sound like a Cherubic Hymn by Phokaeus. It must be because he's an Iranian and doesn't know anything". Which is certainly one of the takes of all time.

    • @MichaelBerthelsen
      @MichaelBerthelsen 2 месяца назад +18

      It IS a take(the take you're describing others having), and contains words...
      Not a great one, and not good ones, but what can you expect...🤷😅

    • @fujikoalfonso7448
      @fujikoalfonso7448 2 месяца назад +43

      @@IoanCenturion People will rather argue rather than take a breath and read the description lol

  • @essexclass8168
    @essexclass8168 2 месяца назад +336

    Not gonna lie, for some reason i expected "Epic Talking" to mean reciting or chanting back to haters in a Homeric "Epic fashion" and was consequently disappointed this wasn't actually a culturally authentic diss track

    • @Joseph-qp1jx
      @Joseph-qp1jx 2 месяца назад +16

      Culturally authentic diss track when?

    • @DarkSamael55
      @DarkSamael55 2 месяца назад +6

      The public demands a culturally authentic diss track!

  • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
    @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 2 месяца назад +654

    Farya roasting his haters gives the same vibes as Caesar describing the Britons

    • @basedkaiser5352
      @basedkaiser5352 2 месяца назад +98

      "They're the most ignorant people I've ever conquered."

    • @marthsmask5798
      @marthsmask5798 2 месяца назад +21

      More like Cicero calling out Catilina

    • @maisteratte8107
      @maisteratte8107 2 месяца назад +7

      Hahahahahhahahahahha

    • @kingofsomething3250
      @kingofsomething3250 2 месяца назад

      "They cannot be taught to read and are the ugliest and most stupid race I ever saw." -Cicero on the Britons

  • @urinstein1864
    @urinstein1864 2 месяца назад +264

    I showed my parents your rendition of Jarnana and my mother said: "Why does this man respect our music more than we do?".

    • @dolphingoreeaccount7395
      @dolphingoreeaccount7395 2 месяца назад +30

      Because he's Facts Faraji

    • @hrogarfyrninga3238
      @hrogarfyrninga3238 2 месяца назад +2

      Indeed, I was on lake Ohrid recently for a research project and it sounds exactly like the music I got to hear there.

  • @spacy256
    @spacy256 2 месяца назад +223

    People are so stuck up and "knowitall" in so many situations. You have not only opened my eyes to Ethnomusicology and sparked a massive interest in music theory in me, but also you have helped me embrace the Lebanese side of my heritage, which I used to ignore and push down. Your insight and interest in historically informed music from the Middle East has heavily helped me accept that I am Lebanese. Thank you Farya, by far one of my favorite youtubers ever.

    • @IoanCenturion
      @IoanCenturion 2 месяца назад +12

      Especially on Reddit lol

    • @fartz3808
      @fartz3808 2 месяца назад +9

      I think internet is doing that to people. There's so much information online that anyone starts feeling like an expert and as though they've any real authority on a given subject

  • @daverockefeller7486
    @daverockefeller7486 2 месяца назад +116

    Armenian here. Love all you do, brother. Give me adress of haters and I will yell at them very loud and agressively as is tradition.

  • @tuiretuinen
    @tuiretuinen 2 месяца назад +116

    I’m Pontic Greek that listens to pontic music religiously and I can say that your pieces are absolutely amazing

  • @konstantinostourl1722
    @konstantinostourl1722 2 месяца назад +336

    As a Greek dude when I heard the "thick Persian accent" on the Epirote part of the Janissary symphony I almost had an aneurysm, what do these people think we sound like?

    • @lemonZzzzs
      @lemonZzzzs 2 месяца назад +90

      They think you sound Persian :P
      In all fairness, accent detection is a questionable skill too, and a lot of biases come into play. They know he's of Persian descent, so they hear a Persian accent in what they think is his singing or speech. Our brains are good at lying to us :D

    • @faryafaraji
      @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +175

      It's a weird psychological thing about some people. Their perception bends reality to match the a-priori expectation they've been given.
      They know I'm Iranian beforehand, and because they assume it's me who sang the song, they "hear" a Persian accent. They would have never "heard" that Persian accent had they known from the beginning it wasn't me who sang it. The reverse has happened too. Some people found my Greek songs first, and therefore assumed I'm Greek. Then the next video they click on is a French one, and they say "lol love your thick Greek accent when you sing French."
      Depending of which of my videos these people have found first, they assume my ethnicity, and end up perceiving an accent that matches that ethnicity. I've been told I have everything from a Greek to a Spanish to a Persian to an Indian accent.
      Basically some people's brains bend reality to match their preconceived expectations, rather than first experiencing reality and deriving conclusions from that.

    • @EvilGNU
      @EvilGNU 2 месяца назад +16

      @@faryafaraji Yeah I think a lot is more about cultural gatekeeping by some very entitled/nationalistic (often goes hand in hand) individuals, than acutal musical critique of your creations.

    • @SickNarsh
      @SickNarsh 2 месяца назад +8

      ​​@@faryafarajithat's why I purposely choose to hear you with a thick québécois accent.

    • @MenelionFR
      @MenelionFR 2 месяца назад +10

      @@faryafaraji I'm good at accent detection because I'm a phonetic nerd (yes, I hear my own accent in various languages too). And what really impressed me is your rendition of various languages with phonetic preciseness. for everyone, let's take Greek: The Greek S sound is not like the S in English. We call it a "retracted S", you can hear it in languages such as Castilian Spanish, Dutch, and Icelandic. It's something between "S" as in "see" and "Sh" as in "she", to the average English-speaking human ear. Technically speaking, it's a sound lower in pitch than the S we have in English and many other languages. And Farya gets it extremely well, although it's quite a complicated sound. And it's just one single example. So Farya and accents… no, that arrow missed its goal.

  • @manougkalajian9494
    @manougkalajian9494 2 месяца назад +110

    Maybe I miss understood the Armenians guys comment but your videos in Armenian are in fact authentic. You always make sure to specify which dialect (Eastern/Western) and properly communicate witch instruments you use. People who expect you to know all these languages perfectly and pronounce them without any accent are delusional. Keep up the great work!

  • @KarolOfGutovo
    @KarolOfGutovo 2 месяца назад +114

    Evil Farya: makes Russian folk song that uses harp

  • @sultansavage3287
    @sultansavage3287 2 месяца назад +142

    The traditional Iranian response to haters is usually a thunderous cataphract charge, but this video will suffice Farya. "SPAHBOD!"

  • @fallingdream
    @fallingdream 2 месяца назад +71

    for the sake of bringing positivity, the orientalism video inspired me to make some d&b(-ish) in phrygian mode without a single duduk or oud, and I really like how it came out so thanks for all you do

    • @chuckwagon3718
      @chuckwagon3718 2 месяца назад +6

      Gotta post that stuff fella

    • @fallingdream
      @fallingdream 2 месяца назад +14

      @@chuckwagon3718 hoping to have the EP out by end of summer, but I'm not here to self-promote, Farya deserves to hear he also inspires people to make creative and fun things, and better and more interesting music, not just unsourced reddit screeds

  • @SirBoggins
    @SirBoggins 2 месяца назад +176

    If you just stuck to your own types of music (presumably Quebecois and Iranian) you'd be accused of "not branching out enough"; damned if you, damned if you don't...

    • @faryafaraji
      @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +138

      Lol best part is I'm already being accused of that for not doing Chinese, Japanese, Aztec, etc. And my answer as to why I don't do these is simple: I have to study them first to not misrepresent them. But yeah, with haters it's a no win situation

    • @dftp
      @dftp 2 месяца назад +20

      ​@@faryafarajiOnce you have mastered every culture's music on earth I will complain that you don't know Martian music. Farya Faraji? More like FRAUD Faraji! /s

    • @anobviousaltaccount3665
      @anobviousaltaccount3665 2 месяца назад +4

      @@faryafaraji I know it was an example but I would unironically love to see your renditions of historical or modern Southern Chinese music.

  • @Silikone
    @Silikone 2 месяца назад +168

    They hated him because he told them the truth.

  • @DimiKaye
    @DimiKaye 2 месяца назад +74

    Mate, your epic talking taught me so many things about Eastern, Middle Eastern and Balkan music which I love, and those are videos I always rewatch. Besides that, your Why Does Greek Music Sound Eastern? is so on point, it's like you coherently expressed what every Greek person who respects their tradition always knew, but couldn't put to words. I am actually incredibly appreciative that you took the time to make it. Huge thank you for that and greetings from Epirus, Greece!

  • @Zebercettin
    @Zebercettin 2 месяца назад +143

    I am Dimlî Kurdish from Turkey, I showed your musics to my grandparents. They immediately recognized Girêsîra, and my grandfather started singing along. He said it sounded almost exactly like Zazakî, only the accent is a bit off which is completely normal in my opinion. Keep up the work, I think they are amazing. Especially the Byzantine and Roman musics are my favorites, although it would be better if you uploaded them to Spotify more often 😅

    • @TiffinVStorm
      @TiffinVStorm 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Zebercettin Certainly, I frequently feel the absence of many of his best pieces while listening on Spotify.

  • @tweed0929
    @tweed0929 2 месяца назад +62

    Requesting Britney Spears/Oxygenos Hemoroides Greek/Japanese/Martian pop jazz collab.

    • @lomionaredhelion
      @lomionaredhelion 2 месяца назад +26

      For the William Wallace - Epic Scottish Music we've all been waiting for

  • @christianhathaway5423
    @christianhathaway5423 2 месяца назад +47

    Your point about introducing Westerners to various musical traditions through your music hits home. So I would add, however, that it works also as a conscious process - often I want to listen to traditional music, but at first, it is too discordant to my expectations. Consciously, I can use your music to inoculate myself in a way, and then make further education and listening more palatable and accessible

  • @bubalolo
    @bubalolo 2 месяца назад +58

    This is what I love and hate about the Internet, it gives everyone a chance to be heard.

  • @commiezoombini3617
    @commiezoombini3617 2 месяца назад +50

    9:30 I find this anecdote kind of funny because I personally had the opposite experience. RUclips is so inundated with "historical themed" songs that are made with 0 care or thought given to their authenticity to anything beyond a surface level aesthetic. Because of this, I initially was not interested in Farya's songs until watching the orientalism video and discovering that he clearly has actual knowledge and passion for the source material

    • @Alejandro-e7g
      @Alejandro-e7g 2 месяца назад +1

      Spaniards sing flamenco. Vikings had horned helmets. Everyone from Morocco to Bangladesh is an Arab.

  • @maxzachry9277
    @maxzachry9277 2 месяца назад +14

    As someone who loves music, I fracking hate learning about music theory because it always seems so confusing, but your epic talking videos can activate my hyperfixation brain bc they’re so awesome. Please keep doing them.

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius9937 2 месяца назад +217

    "Farting into the ether" 😅

    • @faryafaraji
      @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +107

      I mean at least he has nice poetic language, I'll give him that

    • @comradewindowsill4253
      @comradewindowsill4253 2 месяца назад +19

      i mean he is right, in that his words are about as meaningful as a fart

    • @username46656
      @username46656 2 месяца назад +11

      @@faryafaraji Farya, will you make any East Asian or Southeast Asian music in the future?

    • @faryafaraji
      @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +37

      @@username46656 It's in my plans but I know next to nothing about these musical traditions so I need to learn about them first. More of a long term thing in this case

    • @JamesZheyuXu
      @JamesZheyuXu 2 месяца назад +1

      @@faryafaraji You should hire some East Asian musicians to do it for you.

  • @wojtjankowski6816
    @wojtjankowski6816 2 месяца назад +61

    As a Pole I'm glad that there are no Poles questioning Your hard work in Polish songs which You made

  • @sal6695
    @sal6695 2 месяца назад +40

    Youve got haters? Unimaginable.

  • @jetef
    @jetef 2 месяца назад +24

    I discovered your channel roughly a year ago and what convinced me was simply that you gave all your sources. It is baffling to me that people on such a reading-based medium like the internet simply refuse to read sources, clarifications or footnotes...
    Thank you for your work, Terirem will forever be stuck in my ear.

    • @Magnatross
      @Magnatross 2 месяца назад

      People only read the title

  • @raphaelraymond5328
    @raphaelraymond5328 2 месяца назад +24

    Be strong, Farya. The excellent work you’ve Been doing with those musicians, those singers, without mentionning the huge work for authenticity you’ve already proved to us that you’ve done is undeniably a sign of greatness in Music and composing. Don’t listen to those who are offensed by the truth. I sincerely believe the majority of your listeners are conscious about that authenticity but above that, will not question their faith in your amazing labor you did until now.
    Be strong, Farya. You are not a liar and all your brothers from all Over the world know that. From France to Turkey, from Greece to Iran, from slavs to indians. I never saw someone mastering the art of reuniting the old world, the legacies of the greatests civilizations of all Time, in one unique place where we all share the same love for your music, echo of History.

  • @ChineseCookingDemystified
    @ChineseCookingDemystified 2 месяца назад +38

    It's a lightning rod. The very concept of authenticity gets people worked up, I think, because it forces people - educated people that pride themselves on their worldliness! - to confront the reality that much of their previous mental model of the world is actually... a caricature, a cartoon. For some people, finding out that the world is so much bigger, deeper, diverse, and confusing than what they thought can be invigorating ("there's so much to learn!"). For others, it's threatening - they enjoy the sense of 'having it all figured out', and when someone attacks those pre-conceived notions, they can't help but get defensive.
    Love the channel. It would be undeniably *easier* if you solely engaged in criticism and never created things yourself (or visa versa). Actually putting creative work out there at the same time will obviously invite the people that (1) don't like said criticism to (2) comb through your work and nitpick in bad faith.
    But with the knowledge that these people *are* nitpicking in bad faith, maybe... try not to let these comments get to you. "Hang out in the comment section in only the first 24 hours posting" is a RUclipsr rule of thumb for a reason - those are the people that're the most authentically engaged with your content. If you get 29 positive comments and one person that's negative, it's natural for the brain to zero in on that negative comment. But if you wade too much into that nonsense, it can give you a distorted sense of scale - that there's more hate than there actually is.

    • @januszbogumil
      @januszbogumil 2 месяца назад +4

      awesome to see chinesecookingdemystified here. great cooking channel

    • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
      @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 2 месяца назад +1

      CCD, I love your recipes and videos! I use your chili oil video every time I make it at home :D

  • @daanachmad4032
    @daanachmad4032 2 месяца назад +63

    “Thick Persian accent”
    Weren’t you raised in Quebec?
    That person straight up attacking your lineage.

    • @lomionaredhelion
      @lomionaredhelion 2 месяца назад +20

      If I'm not mistaken, he was born in Mazandaran and was brought up in southern France. He must have come to Québec at a young age because the way he carries himself, his accent and mannerisms, and his pride in the culture are distinctly Québécois.
      Well! Mayhap the trolls are onto something, and New France and its colonies were in fact Persian. You learn something new everyday when you fart in the aether and you find that books are excellent.

    • @MCArt25
      @MCArt25 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lomionaredhelion Quebec is the Persia of America, confirmed

  • @Eugene-tm8fm
    @Eugene-tm8fm 2 месяца назад +12

    As a person that has zero connection to the balkans/Middle East/other areas that you usually make music about, you’ve done a fantastic job at introducing me to these diverse and authentic styles of music, and you’ve caused me to look up some of these styles as well so I can listen to more of them. For this I thank you, and I’m sorry you have to put up with Reddit “”””intellectuals”””” constantly. Plus, the music you and your colleagues put out is just enjoyable to listen to in general

  • @GentlemanBystander
    @GentlemanBystander 2 месяца назад +42

    Ahh yes...very Persian those Greeks, it's the accents you see.

  • @mtxz9678
    @mtxz9678 2 месяца назад +33

    we got greek god uploading historical music before gta 6

  • @septimus7524
    @septimus7524 2 месяца назад +26

    19:00
    To add to the willful misrepresentation part: It becomes both funnier and even more disheartening when the Irish Music everyone thinks they're cool with, is either not really irish at all or only barely so.
    People will get upset over someone saying certain cultural music is misrepresented, then be totally happy and ignorant with something else that is an utter misrepresentation of another culture's music.
    Little off the beaten path, but hell I'd say I know well what being grossly misrepresented feels like too.
    Hollywood especially seems to really like taking frequent piss breaks on us Arizonans..

  • @xydez
    @xydez 2 месяца назад +20

    Thank you for setting standards for yourself even when you might be better off not doing so, simply because it's the right thing.

  • @LG-iy5mw
    @LG-iy5mw 2 месяца назад +11

    To be honest, Farya is my only reliable source for knowing how Medieval music sounded. Keep up the good work!

  • @skarryprankhunter
    @skarryprankhunter 2 месяца назад +11

    As a Romanian myself, when I've come across your renditions of older Romanian/Wallachian folk music I've never thought about it as being „inaccurate" or something like that. Sure, it sounded a bit „off" at first, because I wasn't really familiarized with Romanian music from this period, but when I took some time and I researched some interpretations of Anton Pann's music, for example (Leliță Săfiță; Ah, a mea iubită floare; Până când nu te iubeam etc.; especially the one done by the Anton Pann Ensemble, you should check them out), I realized that it's nothing alike what we Romanians generally perceive as „folk" or „traditional" music. The music theory aspects are different, the playing style is different, the instrumentation is different (you have for example instruments like the saz, the cobza - basically a version of the oud adopted by us -, the darbuka drum in some instances, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not an expert on the subject). And of course, if you are not used to this kind of music (or worse, if you haven't listened to it even once in your lifetime), it's gonna sound a bit weird. But that subjective weirdness that one might experience due to unfamiliarity is not equal to you being inaccurate. There's a big difference here that few take the time to actually understand, unfortunately.
    And by the way, this phenomenon of blatant ignorance transposed in the form of this „rants" it's not unique to foreign musicians who try to popularize our music and culture, like you do on this channel. To my surprise, I've seen comments on renditions done by ACTUAL ROMANIANS on Romanian music from the 18th, 19th century saying „oh this is just Gypsy/Turkish/Jewish music, it's not in any way representative of Romanian music and culture etc. etc.". Yes, *it is* representative of our culture, just for a period of time that you're not at all familiar with. That doesn't mean it's not part of the Romanian musical tradition. _Of course_ that Anton Pann was influenced by the Ottoman music of the time, both in term of instrumentation and melodic structure, but that doesn't make it Turkish/Arabic/anything like that. Unfortunately ignorance it's an universal phenomenon that it's not unique to random RUclips comments, Reddit users or just general haters, and that can only be counterattacked by reason and factual evidence.
    If you came all the way here to fully read this comment, thanks a lot for the patience. Continuă ce faci, că-i de bine! 👍
    P.S.: Big respect for mentioning trei parale, they're one of the few that dive into the field of older Romanian music and they're honestly kind of underrated, even in Romania. You may find Romanians that know about folk musicians/interpreters like Tudor Gheorghe, Sofia Vicoveanca, Maria Tănase, Nicolae Furdui Iancu or Grigore Leșe, but few that know about older composers like Anton Pann, Barbu Lăutarul of even Dimitrie Cantemir (most of us know of him for being the ruler of Moldova and just that).

  • @yara_amanary
    @yara_amanary 2 месяца назад +15

    After finishing this, I admire what you do even more. Part of putting your face out there on the internet and dealing with original content creation is to have your work to be scrutinized for random people online who many times won't even show their faces. This is something very stressful and difficult to deal with, even though they're just trolls and can't come across reading basic sentences, it's draining.
    I still can't believe you spent all of this time without a Patreon and the active financial support of your subscribers. I'm glad you're finally getting one, can't wait for it 🎉
    have a nice rest °v° 🌷

  • @2SSSR2
    @2SSSR2 2 месяца назад +17

    Please do not have the haters get to you, you and your artist friends are all awesome creators and I enjoy all the songs that you create.
    I love Eastern Roman music the most, I think 'Justinian' is your magnum opus and if they ever made epic movie about him using Hollywood blockbuster budget they need to use your track as OST.
    Stay safe and continue to create as much as you can and of course as long as you enjoy it. Continue sharing the love.

  • @BB-ih6nc
    @BB-ih6nc 2 месяца назад +7

    Bravo to you. I love dearly modern muzică populară from Oltenia(în southern Romania) and while I noted that your renditions of Romanian folk are different, I never doubted their authenticity as I know that music evolves and Romanian music implemented many western and especially French influences.
    Keep going because your work is vital for those of us interested in authentic or as close as can be to historical music.

  • @oivinf
    @oivinf 2 месяца назад +284

    "Thick Persian accent" got me. Even if it was you singing, why in the hell would you have a "thick Persian accent" in Greek when you clearly don't have that in English or French..? I'm sure it's the same type of nationalist troll that goes to Polymathy and screeches in the comments about the Greek language never ever having changed and reconstructed pronunciation is "fake" and whatever else entirely unscientific nonsense

    • @faryafaraji
      @faryafaraji  2 месяца назад +103

      Haha well those same people also literally hear me speak English and French, and say I have a thick Persian accent in both. That is, if they know I'm Iranian. For those who know me solely from my Greek songs, some of them assume I'm Greek, and then they say I have a thick Greek accent in French and Persian.
      Some people's brains play tricks on them. Once they know or think I'm from a certain ethnicity, their brain will convince them I have an accent of that ethnicity. I've been told I have everything from an Arab to a Greek to an Indian accent when I speak French and English. Their expectations of me being Iranian by birth supercedes the blatantly observable reality of how clearly Canadian my English and French are.

    • @kharga9046
      @kharga9046 2 месяца назад +14

      @@faryafarajias we all know you only have a Persian accent when you’re described how much you liked the eshpoiderman movie

    • @sebastians.4891
      @sebastians.4891 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@faryafaraji And since people like this often do not reflect on even the possibility to be affected themselves of those tricks, that the brain plays on everyone, it is quite hard and feels pointless to try to talk to them and open their minds to broader cultural effects, as marvellously done by you in your epic talking videos.

    • @ArienUK26
      @ArienUK26 2 месяца назад +8

      ⁠@@faryafarajias a latina living in the UK, I get that all the time. If people know where I’m from, I often get things “explained” almost condescendingly or commented about my accent or even corrections, because I couldn’t possibly have grasped the nuances of English after 25 years living here and fully immersed, and 15+ more of formal language instruction . But a few times I’ve had work conversations on the phone with Americans? I keep getting comments about my “lovely English accent” because they called a UK number. We can’t control how others perceive us.
      As an aside, as a dancer of a MENAHT inspired fusion style (and very aware it is fusion, and never presenting it as original ), your video on Orientalism has been widely shared and commented on very positively within the dancing community. Thank you, because now when I have a student asking about Orientalism and appropriation, I can point them to your video, and then we can discuss how it applies to our style.

    • @StergiosMekras
      @StergiosMekras 2 месяца назад +4

      @@faryafaraji I'm Greek and did mistake you for one when I first bumped into your videos. Granted, it didn't last long, but your mastery of the language, combined with the accent, makes it a very easy mistake.

  • @darkodjogo96
    @darkodjogo96 2 месяца назад +5

    Farya, as a Serb, I really enjoy your representation of Serbian music. Great job, thanks!

  • @Llamara1987
    @Llamara1987 2 месяца назад +7

    I'm French, i have no idea what ancient music look around my place... I would never judge a stuff cause i've heard these stuff elsewhere from the begining (it would have been inaucurates movies or folk musics). When i see the documentation, i'm rather Impressed, original lyric, research from instruments, rythms and all to give an interpretation for old songs. Please continue. It so much useful.

  • @mikejone14382
    @mikejone14382 2 месяца назад +8

    Farya i respect you I’m greek from the Peloponnese and as soon as alot of westerners hear our music they instantly want to say it’s eastern influence or Turkish influence or something like that, I think the problem is that Hollywood and the west in movies always portrays ancient Greeks as like people from western or Northern Europe or like pro white race, when i see this to me its feels very uncomfortable, and in doing that they in plant a picture in people minds of how Ancient Greek music or modern Greek music should sound. I have also noticed alot of Greeks living in western countries start to believe these lies and tampering of Ancient Greek culture. For instance another one that makes me feel weird is that they sometimes portray ancient greeks as a blond Northern Europe looking race, When we know that ancient greeks looked like more of a eastern culture by the vase painting they left behind with black or dark brown hair being common and etc. I have alot of respect for the video you made “why Ancient greek music sounds eastern and why its a dumb question” in this video you said that greek music has always sounded like the way it does thousands of years before ottomans or any other eastern culture interacted with them, The truth is history shows ancient greeks were more of a eastern culture than a western culture and its modern westerners who want to steal it and call it western they so can be included in the rich history. Anyway Thank You Farya respect for you brother.

  • @ariadnefatsi1567
    @ariadnefatsi1567 2 месяца назад +3

    Bless you and your Spartan principles, Farya! You deserve all the support, can't wait for your Patreon.
    By the way, as a Greek, I find your accent in my language quite phenomenal for a foreigner, huge respect for all the soul and work you've put in this channel.

  • @luthfilofianda3999
    @luthfilofianda3999 2 месяца назад +13

    Waiting for you to explore the richness of Far Eastern (East and Southeast Asian) music, where the instruments and musical styles from the Medieval era are still largely intact to this day.

  • @FoggyFogzmeister
    @FoggyFogzmeister 2 месяца назад +13

    A little bit of criticism is good for the soul. Keeps one sharp. But kudos to you for engaging with the absolute bottom of the barrel, left over sauerkraut, level of "criticism" as well. That takes a certain kind of mental resilience.
    I absolutely love your music. You're incredible. Every time I get a notification informing me that you've uploaded a video, it's a good day. And that includes these long "talks" you do, as well. Can't wait for the Patreon to launch. You've more than earned it.
    Much love!

  • @lucieb.7991
    @lucieb.7991 2 месяца назад +2

    I discovered your channel because of your Orientalism Video and have watched/llistened to almost all of your Videos by now. Your musical work and your Essays are absolutely amazing. Much Love from Germany 🇩🇪

  • @erichipner2218
    @erichipner2218 2 месяца назад +10

    Farya, I don’t know if you’ll read this, but i just want to say thank you for all the hard work you put into all of your amazing videos. Your epic symphony on Julius Caesar helped inspire me to write my own historical graphic novel about him (although I’m still in the planning stages lmao). Hell, I listen to that video almost daily😅 it’s so good.
    Don’t listen to those clowns. You’re one of the best musicians Ive ever seen on the internet. The amount of effort and soul you put into your music is honestly beautiful. I just wish Hollywood would just hire you already, dammit! Lmao Keep your head up, man. You’re the best❤️🙌🤧🔥

  • @alejandronavarro7190
    @alejandronavarro7190 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm a mexican cantor and I really love your work and your attitude towards art, your audience, and the responsabilities of picturing cultures musically. I admire the passion, the honesty, humility and dedication that you express in your talking videos. It'll be an honour if you one day you want to make your own interpretation of mexican folklorical music, because I know you will do it with the same passion and meticulousness. Saludos y bendiciones desde Ciudad de México.

  • @Andrewisonline330
    @Andrewisonline330 2 месяца назад +14

    Been a fan of your channel for lil over a year now, as someone who only heard greek folk music at church events growing up, listening to your talking series/renditions has helped me get more in touch with the genre thanks bro

  • @EvelynnEleonore
    @EvelynnEleonore 2 месяца назад +39

    the cinematic parallel between Farya obliterating the random comment dude & kendrick orbital-striking drake is not lost on me. 2024 is the year of spirit-bombing haters

  • @Yoyërcompany
    @Yoyërcompany 2 месяца назад +7

    Finding this channel, and you in particular, was one of the most precious gifts from God, that I ever got. You're a chad, Farya, and we all know and love that. And we love you ❤

  • @A.B.H_da-goat
    @A.B.H_da-goat 2 месяца назад +67

    Hating on Farya is next level evil

  • @vasilijestevanovic5142
    @vasilijestevanovic5142 2 месяца назад +10

    The absolute arsenal behind you in almost every frame. Please, just don't get so angry to pull one off the wall. XD

  • @alexmace6134
    @alexmace6134 2 месяца назад +2

    Y'all are doing great! This channel's music sounds great and has supported my interests in ancient cultures. Because of this channel, I am most of the way through Lingua Latina per se Illustrata. Thank you for the motivation!

  • @BlackCrafte
    @BlackCrafte 2 месяца назад +5

    Great video, glad you're keeping the haters at bay. I'm french, and your videos on France are simply some of the highest quality there is.

  • @kristiannorden2006
    @kristiannorden2006 2 месяца назад +9

    No way people are actually hating on you, it should be opposite at this point considering the amount of people reuploading your music without giving credits.
    Much appreciation from here, would love to see some more Spartan music that is more vocal than the one 3 years ago 😊
    Or some Danish

  • @marduk3986
    @marduk3986 2 месяца назад +5

    Farya, I am deeply grateful for both your music and Epic Talking series. All the titanic work you've been doing and the higher standards you've set deserve great respect.
    As for the haters, some people just want to feel themselves less pathetic than they are by writing such "incriminating" comments and posts without any minimal brain's effort. But their self-satisfaction is illusory and temporary, and your positive contribution to humanity is eternal. Much love from Ukraine!

  • @rappa____
    @rappa____ 2 месяца назад +2

    We love and support your music! Thank you for sharing all these beautiful sounds together!

  • @SomeWeirdNinjaToon
    @SomeWeirdNinjaToon 2 месяца назад +2

    Hi farya ! I just wanna put this small message to thank you again for your talk videos. I discovered your channel throught your roman content and got hooked to your art by your byzantine and even more recently by your iranian content. But I always prefer your talk videos (even if I'm more silent) because I just learn so much and can look into the references you cite. I even discovered the Skaldic Bard through your work !
    Even if I don't always understand a lot of the musical terminology you use, you have legit made me more cultured about lusic and other sound scape. Don't let the haters keep you from doing what you are doing ! Your music is awesome and a place for cultication and learning ^^
    Love from France ^^

  • @jsuntres1
    @jsuntres1 2 месяца назад +3

    Farya! I’m no musicologist, but I am Greek and I’m a musician. Anything you do pertaining to Greek music is spot on. When I first heard you I was convinced you were Greek! Few people understand microtonal music better than you. Why waste your precious on haters? There is an ancient Greek saying: «Κι αν με πείθεις, ου με πείθεις.» Translation: “Even if you convince me, I remain unconvinced.”

  • @otho69AD
    @otho69AD 2 месяца назад +6

    Some people are just truly hopeless, keep up the good work Mr. Epic Talker

  • @elazaraki
    @elazaraki 2 месяца назад +2

    I follow you since years and enjoy your music tremendously. I want to be clear, that I'm no musician nor musicologist of any kind. I also want to make clear that I don't like all your works. The first is a fact and the second is a question of taste and what talks to me personally, it is in no way criticism of your high quality work. I feel I have to say, that especially the Epic Byzantine and Greek pieces of yours are breathtaking. I grew up in the Greek/ Turkish border region of the Dodecanese Islands and have since my youth been infatuated with Byzantine Chants and Secular music.
    As I am not a professional or scholar of music I can only rely on what it feels like when I hear your music: I close my eyes and I'm home. I see the cities resurrecting and the souls of the ancients rising in joy, that people like you make this kind of music accessible to this time. I deeply feel that you connect with the soul and spirit of times gone by and breath live back into them. Your works, are telling stories and stir emotions.
    Haters gonna hate. In my opinion you're great. Keep doing what you're doing. Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

  • @alapikomamalolonui6424
    @alapikomamalolonui6424 2 месяца назад +4

    Farya,.. you are simply the best at what you do. Far too many people can't handle a confident person, even if they justify their confidence explicitly, with evidence.
    Aloha nui kanaka! Mahalo 'oe.

  • @Kedicikcilek
    @Kedicikcilek 2 месяца назад +7

    a beautiful watch my friend, thank you for always being so transparent and honest, ignore the haters, i love educating myself more via your channel!edit: pls reupload bu gun bize pir geldi soon
    its beautiful

  • @lentien4440
    @lentien4440 2 месяца назад +3

    Bonjour, je fait parti de ton public francophone depuis plus de 2 ans.
    Je me permet d'écrire en français parce que je sais que tu comprendra très bien et aussi parce que j'ai peur que mon anglais ne sois pas assez bon.
    J'apprécie énormément ton travail et celui de tout les artistes avec qui tu collabore. Découvrir ta chaîne m'a vraiment permis de m'ouvrir sur d'autres cultures musicales et de les apprécier. J'ai commencé avec la série des Epic Byzantine musics et maintenant j'écoute absolument toutes les musiques que tu sort. Même si j'ai des préférences bien sûr, je trouve qu'il y a toujours quelque chose de bon à prendre dans les différents styles que tu propose.
    Merci beaucoup de continuer de nous émerveiller avec des musiques du monde entier et de toutes les époques, ou presque.
    Par ailleurs, je trouve que c'est une bonne chose que tu fasse de nouvelles versions des anciennes musiques qui contenait des erreurs ou de mauvaises représentations. Cependant je trouve dommage de supprimer les anciennes versions totalement. Même si elles contiennent des erreurs, elles font partie de l'histoire de ta chaîne et de ton travail d'artiste. La description et le titre pourrait être édité pour informer sur les différents soucis du morceau. Elles pourraient aussi être mises dans une playlist spécifique pour les musiques "obsolètes". Pour la plupart, ces musiques étaient vraiment magnifiques malgré les problèmes qu'elles pouvaient avoir. Je trouve dommage de les voir disparaître. Et d'un point de vue strictement personnel j'aimais mieux certaines anciennes versions (Stella Splendens par exemple), même si dans la plupart des cas j'apprécie les modifications apportées.
    Voilà, ça n'est que mon avis bien sûr et je me doute qu'on a peut-être déjà dû te faire des retours similaires.
    Quoi qu'il en soit, je continuerai à suivre ton travail avec enthousiasme. Je ne manquerai pas de te soutenir comme je peux si tu ouvre un patreon.

  • @tzikas95
    @tzikas95 2 месяца назад +1

    This guy is showcasing the traditional music from many cultures better than the locals. He is doing it with an unimaginable respect, yet people want to hate him because "knowitall".
    I fell in love with your music and the Byzantine music especially makes me travel to the past. Thank you!

  • @thatotherted3555
    @thatotherted3555 2 месяца назад +1

    Your diligence is truly admirable, and your patience in responding to these people is far beyond what I'd be capable of.

  • @GegoXaren
    @GegoXaren 2 месяца назад +2

    Nordic here,
    Love your work, and Epic Talk videos. Especially on Nordic/Norse/"Viking" music.

  • @georgianmapper7774
    @georgianmapper7774 2 месяца назад +36

    wait... he HAS haters?!

    • @razinghavoc7419
      @razinghavoc7419 2 месяца назад +5

      Everyone who becomes popular has haters

  • @XristosArgyropoulos
    @XristosArgyropoulos 2 месяца назад +12

    Just create a patreon already, you've earned it, I'd support you

    • @colin3424
      @colin3424 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, I just checked his bio for one after I commented. I really like his music history videos.

  • @MilanSusic-x9c
    @MilanSusic-x9c 5 дней назад

    My bro, I wouldn't even give these fools the time of day. You're music is amazing, keep doing your great work.

  • @katipunanball4799
    @katipunanball4799 2 месяца назад +5

    I was just researching Iranian Classical Music theory, how timely!

  • @Ceryci
    @Ceryci 2 месяца назад +1

    Just recently stumbled upon your work and am glad i have.
    Here hoping for more people to find this channel to enjoy it.

  • @ookamitsubasa
    @ookamitsubasa 2 месяца назад +1

    Regardless of whether this is completely perfectly historically accurate or not, I still enjoy your music. Your work speaks to me and you’ve introduced me to a world I didn’t know anything about. For that, you get my thanks 🙏

  • @enkelainen
    @enkelainen 2 месяца назад +26

    Listen, this authenticity racket is great and all, but...
    Throat-singing duduk Odyssey epic song with horsehair fiddle when?
    Love your work, man. Not only is your music amazing, your discourse and research are outstanding.
    Fuck the haters.

  • @АнтонИшков-й6ь
    @АнтонИшков-й6ь 2 месяца назад +3

    Фарья, спасибо Вам большое за всё Ваше творчество! Ваша музыка прекрасна!

  • @PowerTraining
    @PowerTraining 2 месяца назад +4

    My man Farya, if you took those keyboard crusaders and multiplied all that they have ever achieved a hundredfold, they would still not be near a fraction of the value you have provided to the world with your work. They are not fooling us, we see through their BS.

  • @OmarRao-t7n
    @OmarRao-t7n 2 месяца назад +3

    I got interested in microtonality and music in general from your content to the point where i actually bought a bağlama, keep up the good work and dont believe in the haters, from 🇧🇬🇹🇷(Thrace) and 🇵🇰.

  • @myklkay
    @myklkay 2 месяца назад

    The world needs more people like you, in all areas.
    Thank you for your dedication and your work.
    I learn(ed) a lot watching your content, one video at a time.

  • @MBHpower1
    @MBHpower1 2 месяца назад +1

    you and the people you collaberate with are so talented I'm so glad I found this channel

  • @arryaxx263
    @arryaxx263 2 месяца назад +5

    I won't watch the whole video because I don't much care for fights on the internet, but I thought parts of your Orientalism video were pretty great. Regardless of this mess, nobody gets everything right all the time, but that doesn't make them hypocrites(though the internet wishes it did), it just makes them human. You clearly do what you love and do it as well as you can. Who would reproach someone for that?
    Your video actually inspired me to get more into some different kinds of music, rather than avoid working with them, so I found its points about Orientalism, perhaps ironically, the opposite of disparaging. I look forward to what you do next.

  • @Rag_ab
    @Rag_ab 2 месяца назад +2

    As an armenian who is really interested in clasic folk and traditional music you are always on point with everything you make and its amazing how accurate it is and how you just encapsulate all the happy and depressing emotions dont listen to these mentally and intellectually deficient trolls. Honestly you have a sayat nova thing going on where you make beautifully pieces of music in all different cultures and im so greatful for that its so nice to see someone especially an iranian who we have been so close to historically appreciate our music and show it to more people so thank you farya.

  • @icesleeping-d5s
    @icesleeping-d5s 2 месяца назад +1

    Great stuff dude!!! The world doesn't deserve the amount of integrity and humility that you bring!

  • @emanuelp986
    @emanuelp986 2 месяца назад +2

    An ancient Romanian proverb says that your value is based on the number of haters you have on Reddit! Congrats, and God bless you, bro!

  • @ion_tiriac
    @ion_tiriac 2 месяца назад +2

    As a romanian, personally, you have done a massive good job on romanian music. Im surprised some of us didn't comment on the fact it does not sound like romanian music, since modern romanian music sounds preety much all the same and abuses 4 instruments (Violin, trumpet, accordion, Tambal or some substitute string instrument). Hearing smth similar to the music from the time of Anton Pann and other musical writers of our nation (as far as sources allow) from the time is very refreshing, good job going forward! (also during the 9th of may event at my school the class that had france used your version of "La Tourdion" for the dance showcase, you got a larger following than you may think you have)

  • @Divus-Traianus
    @Divus-Traianus 2 месяца назад +15

    Dear mister Faraji you have the best music today i was walking on the street while lisening to your roman music and an aquila flew above me. Your songs can literaly summon Jupiter.

  • @PaulAurelius509BC
    @PaulAurelius509BC 2 месяца назад +38

    Unfortunately, my friend, there's too many "academics" that indulge in self-pleasing. I believe, if I am not mistaken, when these types of people get together, we call it a "circle jerk."
    do not be silly. You have earned support. Your work is appreciated and many want more. Keep it coming.

  • @kathleencove
    @kathleencove Месяц назад +1

    As an person of Irish and Polish descent, I think you absolutely nailed all the Irish and Polish songs. Can’t speak for everything else, but I think you’ve done a great thing here by bringing so much beautiful music from around the world together. I choose to believe you’re doing your best to be as authentic as possible, and you nail the accents if you ask me. But here’s my thing with the trolls… even *if* you do imperfectly represent historical music… isn’t the point for us to listen and be talking about it and appreciate it? We can’t jump into a time machine, all anyone can do is the best with the information we have available. From there, any honorable attempt should be treated with respect, and as a chance to share the world’s music and get to know each other and appreciate each other’s cultures more.

  • @anonimowyhejtersamozwancze3865
    @anonimowyhejtersamozwancze3865 2 месяца назад +2

    I am a Slav, I come from Poland and at the same time I participate in many battle reenactments. From the Prussian Empire, through the Duchy of Warsaw to the Roman Empire... and I will say it straight, I am not a historian to determine how faithful your music is to the original but I want you to know one thing. With your work/passion you allow us not to forget about the past centuries and eternal glory to you for that. And as for the rest of these porers... remember that most of them are a bunch of insignificant dogs who can only bark, because if it came time to bite... most of these champions would turn into mongrels (With respect to mongrels). May your voice resound for all time

  • @wicklowpiper1812
    @wicklowpiper1812 2 месяца назад +2

    I've learned more from you in 6 months, than i have in half my lifetime. Nobody else is talking about this richest of material you've shown us. I'm irish, and you did a fantastic job on the old Irish videos. Your work is a credit to you. I've since began learning the Ney, and duduk (sorry 😊) Thanks to you. Keep up the great work, and don't waste any more of your valuable time on these fools. Thanks for everything, it's unique and deeply appreciated 👍 🇮🇪 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @SirAtesh
    @SirAtesh 2 месяца назад +9

    Hope you don't take these serious, dunno much about other cultures' music but for Turkish ones you have my vote of confidence.

  • @SaszaDerRoyt
    @SaszaDerRoyt 2 месяца назад +1

    I really admire the effort and research that goes into all your projects as well as your transparency about all of what goes on behind the scenes to make your music the high standard and quality that it is! Keep up the good work!! If it's ever possible to do so, I'd love to see the whole behind the scenes process of making one of the music videos, from filming the video to arranging/composing and of course featuring the other talented artists you work with

  • @yllejord
    @yllejord 2 месяца назад +2

    For whatever it's worth, I can confirm that your Pontian parts sound distinctly Pontian.

  • @noosy530
    @noosy530 2 месяца назад +2

    You have a wonderful gift and talent mashaAllah. It reaches those that it's meant to reach and passes those that it's not.

  • @JeremyBaconThe1st
    @JeremyBaconThe1st 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a Greek and ye music is exactly the thing that I like hearing

  • @sillanus1
    @sillanus1 2 месяца назад +28

    I don't use IQ scores to judge how low someone's intelligence is, I just ask if they're a hater of Farya Faraji, far more reliable.
    Also please make a "The Ottomans" track, I will forever be in your debt.

  • @theeviloverlord7168
    @theeviloverlord7168 2 месяца назад

    I’m someone who got introduced to your channel from the Orientalism video and have been bingeing the Epic Talks. Thank you for the videos, I am getting introduced to how much I’ve been missing out within a western musical context and it’s enriching!

  • @kmaher1424
    @kmaher1424 2 месяца назад +1

    I enjoy what you do. And you always make your methods clear. Yes, I read your notes...
    Will add you to my Patreon as soon as possible

  • @natmorse-noland9133
    @natmorse-noland9133 2 месяца назад +1

    Farya responding to the haters with literal receipts, I love it.