Man I cannot wait for the progressive press shootout. Thanks for taking out a lot of the unknowns for those of us that don't have these machines but are thinking about getting one. This content is outstanding work.
Do you reload on a turret press? If you need to reload more than 400 rounds at a time I would stick with a turret press. Progressive presses is like buying a corvette to commute to work. My first press is a dillon XL750 and it's great but I never load more than 100 rounds at a time so I think I should've bought a turret press. Also I reload 8 calibers and each caliber conversion kit cost $115 plus shipping
I have a Mark 7 Revolution set up for 9mm. My biggest issue was getting the Mr. Bullet feeder pro to work correctly. Once I modified it it works great. I love my Mark 7. Expensive, but then what isn't these days.
@@dahut3614 The problem was the Mr. Bullet Feeder Pro is steel and has a different funnel angle that created a lip that the bullets would hang up on. I had to ream out top section to increase the angle and eliminate the lip. Once I did that it works like it was supposed to. The only other mod I made was to change out the powder hopper for a glass one as the filter at the top of the one Mark 7 supplies makes it hard to empty the hopper when finished loading or you want to change powders.
This off topic, but is in response to a comment you made about "Price Gouging", especially by Cheaper than Dirt. I bought some 10mm ammo today for $24.99 for 50 rounds online, 6 boxes, which is about MSRP but the exact same stuff in Cheaper than Dirt was $50! Stay away from them.
WOW, WTF I need to be more prudent in my shopping. I have been using CTD for several years. SO, it is time to reevaluate my supply sources just as I do my auto insurance. Thanks for the heads up, John
Gavin: In my Dillon experience of setting up the XL650 platforms, and now the RL1100, it has been recommended and I have verified that to produce acceptable measurements of Cartridge Overall Lengths, one needs to have all Stations being used loaded with brass/components to stabilize the shellplate. In your experiences, does the Mark 7 benefit from this same procedure? Thank you!
I have had a Dillon XL 650 for 20 years set up for .223/5.56. I have not touched it for years except to load and clean and grease. It 'shell' remain that way. (See what I did there?) I just looked up on the Dillon site. I didn't know there was a new XL 750 model.. I wonder if they do trade ins?
Unclear on powder measure. Going from 9mm to 223 do you need to get the funnel die kit? I accidently bought a second rifle measure. Cant find anything on converting my 223 powder measure to 9mm. 9mm case opening is obviously smaller, do you need to change funnels due to cases concaving inward? Thanks
@gavintoobe have you considered using the hornady lock-n-load bushing to make changing die's easier, but mostly because you don't have to worry about resetting/calibrating each die.
Wow. Glad I saw this before getting a Mark 7. What a ridiculously complex process from what I’m accustomed to on my Redding T-7. I know they’re different animals, but come on.... I’d have to purchase at least 3 Evolutions given the time it takes to switch between the major rounds I shoot. It currently takes me less than 1 minute, with no chance of adjustment issues. I currently swap heads at least 3 times per week on the Redding.
So you can’t use that bullet feeder for .223/556? I figured you could swap some kind of internal plate and it would feed an alternative bullet size. I mean you have to buy a second one for rifle and that’s another cost.
@@nickjm37fordel1 Definitely a learning experience fun to once you get the hang of it. But not something that you tear down to run 10 rounds through. Mark7 Revolution excellent machine.
Instead of disassembling the bulletfeed and case feed to dump, or scooping, I just run them into a container to catch the bullets/cases. Totally unattended and I can be doing other things while the hoppers empty.
Curious, what is the cost of the machine with ALL the features you have mounted then what is the cost of a complete caliber change, assuming you need everything?
Can the case feeder be mounted in a difference position? It appears to be in the way when bullet seating. Of course it may not be an issue once you get the automatic bullet feeder installed.
The way you have the press set up is nice for new cases, however I normally use once fired brass and therefore I lube and full length resize for .223. To do this on this press do you see anything that would prevent one from using an RCBS lube die at station 2 to lube and decap, then full length resize on station 3?
I'm sure other people have reasons to use this press (or a Dillon), but my not diagnosed OCD cannot deal with it, just the powder dropping alone and the lack of accuracy in weight phases me out. Obviously, each crank of the lever does a lot, but the set up is crazy long and even longer if you don't have the extra bits and pieces. I use a single stage Mark press and with the lock-n-load on all my dies, switching calibers is a breeze. I wonder the number of rounds to break even on time alone.
When you start thinking your Dillon is expensive to do caliber swaps... you research Mark 7’s prices to feel better about your Dillon!! Still want one though!!
That will be in the progressive press shootout- until then, check out the article (see video description) for links to product pages. I don't typically post prices since they change frequently...
You know, these high end presses are nice, but caliber change is a big thing. If I'm going to spend $3000 on a press, I don't want to further spend hundreds of dollars to simply change calibers. I also don't want it to be major surgery.
Did you not listen? He changed out the primer system to show people how to do it. He literally said he didn’t need to, but was doing it for demonstration sake🙄
Lose one $.04 cent screw and the machine is down. I can guarantee I would drop and lose a screw off that case feeder. And likely a few others, too! But still, this is a BA machine!! And it's on my list. But I suspect I'll go back to the 1100 for purchase.
Too many things behind you and made the video like taken in a "forest". How about clear up the "background" so that there are no distractions and let viewers focus on the items you're trying to show. - Thanks
Well fellow reloaders. We gave the Mark 7 Press and all of its bells and whistles nearly a year. What a fiasco that press turned out to be. Poor machine quality, customer service and parts availability. Could write a book on all of the issues. So back to our good old Red LEE presses and equipment and dust off our Dillon 750XL and the Venerable Dillon 1100. Still waiting on powder, primers and bullets to arrive by mid December from back East. Picked up some new 10 round, 50 round and 100 round SAAMI QC Blocks. Plenty of die sets for all.. Spare parts But, etc. But plenty of components to finish fine tuning and begin to punch ammo out. So stay tuned for a new batch of reloading videos and pictures in 2022. Happy Holidays Jake the Jackalope 112721
You have to change almost everything seems like a waste of money for a expensive tool head setup no different from any othe progressive beside the number of stations and the extra money
Wow! There is waaay too much involved for a simple caliber change. I would think a press this expensive and sophisticated would be engineered to make caliber changes simpler. Also, would it be possible for you to clear out some of the equipment sitting behind you. It's very difficult to clearly see whatever you're working on if it's being filmed looking straight on because of all the equipment which is distracting and makes it difficult to focus on the subject.
Hi Gavin. Thank you for the great vid!
Hope we get the mark 7 evolution here in South Africa soon!
Man I cannot wait for the progressive press shootout. Thanks for taking out a lot of the unknowns for those of us that don't have these machines but are thinking about getting one. This content is outstanding work.
Do you reload on a turret press?
If you need to reload more than 400 rounds at a time I would stick with a turret press.
Progressive presses is like buying a corvette to commute to work.
My first press is a dillon XL750 and it's great but I never load more than 100 rounds at a time so I think I should've bought a turret press. Also I reload 8 calibers and each caliber conversion kit cost $115 plus shipping
I have a Mark 7 Revolution set up for 9mm. My biggest issue was getting the Mr. Bullet feeder pro to work correctly. Once I modified it it works great. I love my Mark 7. Expensive, but then what isn't these days.
@@dahut3614 The problem was the Mr. Bullet Feeder Pro is steel and has a different funnel angle that created a lip that the bullets would hang up on. I had to ream out top section to increase the angle and eliminate the lip. Once I did that it works like it was supposed to. The only other mod I made was to change out the powder hopper for a glass one as the filter at the top of the one Mark 7 supplies makes it hard to empty the hopper when finished loading or you want to change powders.
This off topic, but is in response to a comment you made about "Price Gouging", especially by Cheaper than Dirt. I bought some 10mm ammo today for $24.99 for 50 rounds online, 6 boxes, which is about MSRP but the exact same stuff in Cheaper than Dirt was $50! Stay away from them.
WOW, WTF I need to be more prudent in my shopping. I have been using CTD for several years. SO, it is time to reevaluate my supply sources just as I do my auto insurance. Thanks for the heads up, John
As Cope Reynolds has said " cheaper then dirt is expensive as hell"
Always!
That right there is purdy. Great vid Gavin. Keep'm Come'n
Thanks 👍
Yes, yes, yes! I would love to fork money out for one, along with autodrive.
I would love one of these and from the video it appears to be first class in the components. It is just hard to get past that $3k price.
Why? First class costs money. Save up.
Gavin: In my Dillon experience of setting up the XL650 platforms, and now the RL1100, it has been recommended and I have verified that to produce acceptable measurements of Cartridge Overall Lengths, one needs to have all Stations being used loaded with brass/components to stabilize the shellplate. In your experiences, does the Mark 7 benefit from this same procedure? Thank you!
It would have been nice to get an answer to that.
Almost $1k and way too many steps to change calibers... this has really put a dent in my desire for a Mark VII next bonus check.
That’s what’s holding me back too. Will probably go the rl1100 route
I have had a Dillon XL 650 for 20 years set up for .223/5.56. I have not touched it for years except to load and clean and grease. It 'shell' remain that way. (See what I did there?)
I just looked up on the Dillon site. I didn't know there was a new XL 750 model.. I wonder if they do trade ins?
At 16:20, why not get replacement guide rods for each tool head? That would save a few steps, yes?
Unclear on powder measure. Going from 9mm to 223 do you need to get the funnel die kit? I accidently bought a second rifle measure. Cant find anything on converting my 223 powder measure to 9mm. 9mm case opening is obviously smaller, do you need to change funnels due to cases concaving inward? Thanks
Where is the best place to order the Bondhus screwdriver type allen tools? Love your videos, very informative. Thanks
@gavintoobe have you considered using the hornady lock-n-load bushing to make changing die's easier, but mostly because you don't have to worry about resetting/calibrating each die.
Wow. Glad I saw this before getting a Mark 7. What a ridiculously complex process from what I’m accustomed to on my Redding T-7. I know they’re different animals, but come on....
I’d have to purchase at least 3 Evolutions given the time it takes to switch between the major rounds I shoot. It currently takes me less than 1 minute, with no chance of adjustment issues. I currently swap heads at least 3 times per week on the Redding.
Any reason you would "reload" 223/556 plinking ammo will new brass? Buying factory ammo will be a lot cheaper and easier.
So you can’t use that bullet feeder for .223/556? I figured you could swap some kind of internal plate and it would feed an alternative bullet size. I mean you have to buy a second one for rifle and that’s another cost.
Wow...I think you could use a sun dial to time that change!
I swapped my lotus from a Ford to a Toyota motor and this looks more complicated than that was.
I think a degree in Mechanical Engineering would be a big help in this caliber change !
Plus, you need to take out a second on the house to buy it !
@@nickjm37fordel1 Definitely a learning experience fun to once you get the hang of it. But not something that you tear down to run 10 rounds through. Mark7 Revolution excellent machine.
I think I'd save time by working the overtime it takes to just buy a second one than to spend all the time learning this process lol
@@909Thumper909 It's just not worth the time and money !
Nick J what would you suggest w a similar feature-set?
How does the aluminum head compare to steel? Any thoughts on durability or precision of one versus the other?
Como puedo obtener información de manejo para mark 7 Evolución en español?
Instead of disassembling the bulletfeed and case feed to dump, or scooping, I just run them into a container to catch the bullets/cases. Totally unattended and I can be doing other things while the hoppers empty.
This seems a lot more complicated than some others, like the Dillion XL-750
Curious, what is the cost of the machine with ALL the features you have mounted then what is the cost of a complete caliber change, assuming you need everything?
Can the case feeder be mounted in a difference position? It appears to be in the way when bullet seating. Of course it may not be an issue once you get the automatic bullet feeder installed.
I am so lost on this but then I don't have one to understand it from the start.
For progressive, what method if any do you use for lubing cases?
When using the hollow base Berry 9mm bullets, does the hollow base of the bullet provide lower pressure than flat base bullets?
Yes, precisely.
If I understand, we must have a case feeder new late and a new drop tube ?
Aren’t 9mm & 5.56mm case heads the same 🤔 why would you need another shell plate . 🧐... or am I mis-remembering something here ?...
The way you have the press set up is nice for new cases, however I normally use once fired brass and therefore I lube and full length resize for .223. To do this on this press do you see anything that would prevent one from using an RCBS lube die at station 2 to lube and decap, then full length resize on station 3?
That's a good idea but you'll have a dirty primer pocket.
Can you utilize the auto primer feeder with the manual drive version? (Yes I know evolution and revolution are different and one doesn’t come with it)
How precise can you get? .002 shoulder bump or bullet seating.
Are Dillon casefeed plates compatible with the evolution?
I'm sure other people have reasons to use this press (or a Dillon), but my not diagnosed OCD cannot deal with it, just the powder dropping alone and the lack of accuracy in weight phases me out. Obviously, each crank of the lever does a lot, but the set up is crazy long and even longer if you don't have the extra bits and pieces. I use a single stage Mark press and with the lock-n-load on all my dies, switching calibers is a breeze. I wonder the number of rounds to break even on time alone.
When you start thinking your Dillon is expensive to do caliber swaps... you research Mark 7’s prices to feel better about your Dillon!! Still want one though!!
The change over process looks like it would take to long to complete, I guess I am just impatient the Dillon is much simpler.
Why wouldn't 9mm and 223 use the same shell plate?
they're different
Gavin
Please the relative cost per item involved in this swap to 223/ 5.56. Thanks
That will be in the progressive press shootout- until then, check out the article (see video description) for links to product pages. I don't typically post prices since they change frequently...
Gavin have you tried the Mighty Armory dies?
No I have not! :)
Very helpful, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
would love one but to much $ for me.
You know, these high end presses are nice, but caliber change is a big thing. If I'm going to spend $3000 on a press, I don't want to further spend hundreds of dollars to simply change calibers. I also don't want it to be major surgery.
I really want one.
SP and SR primers are in same dimensions why not just "dump out" SF and filled with SR ones.
Did you not listen? He changed out the primer system to show people how to do it. He literally said he didn’t need to, but was doing it for demonstration sake🙄
Holy hell - WAY too much involved. The potential for dropping/losing parts is through the roof. Then there's the cost. Screw all that.
Lose one $.04 cent screw and the machine is down. I can guarantee I would drop and lose a screw off that case feeder. And likely a few others, too! But still, this is a BA machine!! And it's on my list. But I suspect I'll go back to the 1100 for purchase.
Too many things behind you and made the video like taken in a "forest". How about clear up the "background" so that there are no distractions and let viewers focus on the items you're trying to show. - Thanks
Wow! That press costs a mere $3000.00! I think I'll get one for EADH gun ... ... NOT!
Well fellow reloaders. We gave the Mark 7 Press and all of its bells and whistles nearly a year. What a fiasco that press turned out to be. Poor machine quality, customer service and parts availability. Could write a book on all of the issues. So back to our good old Red LEE presses and equipment and dust off our Dillon 750XL and the Venerable Dillon 1100. Still waiting on powder, primers and bullets to arrive by mid December from back East. Picked up some new 10 round, 50 round and 100 round SAAMI QC Blocks. Plenty of die sets for all.. Spare parts But, etc. But plenty of components to finish fine tuning and begin to punch ammo out. So stay tuned for a new batch of reloading videos and pictures in 2022. Happy Holidays Jake the Jackalope 112721
$3K + all that pissing around = hell fucken no
The responses here are hilarious. So many unthinking people. So sad.
Super 1050 vs this!
After watching this, I think I'll still stay with my old RL550. Caliber change over are about 5 minutes , a lot easier ,a lot cheaper.
And tiny production runs
I wish you were my neighbor
yeah bring beer🤣
This is for those that have more time to switch than to reload.
Hey Gavin great video. May want to blur the address at 19:14
Ya. I'll just run out and spend $3k on a press. Buy a Dillon.
You have to change almost everything seems like a waste of money for a expensive tool head setup no different from any othe progressive beside the number of stations and the extra money
You pay what you get for ;)
Or if you have miney just buy teo machines with your two Favorite calibers hahahhahaa
To rich for my wallet ,then the expenses of the change over kit , nice looking press though.
Wow! There is waaay too much involved for a simple caliber change. I would think a press this expensive and sophisticated would be engineered to make caliber changes simpler. Also, would it be possible for you to clear out some of the equipment sitting behind you. It's very difficult to clearly see whatever you're working on if it's being filmed looking straight on because of all the equipment which is distracting and makes it difficult to focus on the subject.
High volume presses have never been designed to also change calibers fast.
This press is for the commercial reloader
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