Tom Cardy just rode this course for his channel and talks about this. Man is a slopestyle rider who's used to big jumps and even he said it was nuts that they were doing this. He admitted that he feels he's a high level rider, generally speaking, but the course humbled him. It truly is insane how these riders take these incredibly difficult courses and go flat out on them.
Thank you for analyzing Jackson’s run. I thought it was really interesting and wondered how much he lost in that corner. The rest of his run was amazing.
One would've thought with all the mistakes happening in the recent years in this exact corner, the new production team would put cameras there to see what's happening. The drone shots from above were an improvement, but the corners look so easy from that angle, and then there's also that tree blocking the sight...
Hahahaha man oh man Cathro, im sure you were the one who edited it in with your humour bro !! But that mike tyson insert was leggggitttt !! I spat my shit out when that pooped in !! Props to you ❤😂😂
great analysis. gcn+ barely mentioned that goldstone mistake, he would have totally won and Finn's drift one corner back cost him the win. Amazing to see those two on fire Heal well Ben and keep up the great work with team and analysis
Thanks for this great recap/analysis Ben! Happy for the win of the local, but my Canadian hart still a little sad for my 🇨🇦 boys! Aimy!! (Or Micheline I should say 😂) Good job Girl! Super stoked, thanks to PBR to support/ provide all this! ✌️
That last corner combination is just a copy of the traverse in the Kitzbühel skiing race haha Everyone knows what to do but it’s a different story after 90% of the run already done
I agree with Ben saying there was improvements in both the commentary and broadcast however the bar was set low from last week. The broadcast of the junior men was the worst I’ve ever seen. Having to pay $65 for a worse product this year is disappointing. Hope it improves…… a lot!
the commentary improved he says lmao, I watched the replay and there was literally no commentary 😂so shit, I had to pay for that stuff and there was no commentary!! the juniors didnt even have any sound!!! watching on GCN btw
Horrific. I can't even understand 20% of what Cedric said, and he just randomly shouts like he is trying to copy Rob but didn't read the manual on when to be excited. The Irish guy is all good
It’s a shame the commentary and Live feed is a downgrade, but if there’s one thing we can take from the first two rounds it’s that our sport will always produce the goods! In general the media around it is better than ever and once the live coverage finds it’s feet a bit more I reckon downhill will benefit as a sport
Dude, Downhill already benefits and has been for a long time, there's plenty of brands glad to sponsor riders, even ones that don't race at all, mountain bikes are being sold of all kinds all the time and parts sell like snacks with the larger brake rotors running out of stock quickly. MTB has seen an insane increase in the last 13 years on audience and riders alike.
Love the series and want you to have the best success. Couldn't Pinkbike/outside hire someone who's sole job is to organize everything ? It seems like a whole lot of stress and exhaustion for people who are racing
Is anyone else not a fan of run-ending features like that turn? Its like a test where there is a single question that will fail you no matter how much you studied or how well you did on the rest of the test. There is no line choice in it either, its just hope you can hit it perfectly and that it hasn't shifted or changed too much before your run - a tiny rock getting shifted between runs could turn a first place run into a wipeout. I know thats the nature of the sport but it all coming down to one turn makes it hard to feel like a win is conclusive.
Maybe if the new guys found their own style and not try sound like rob Warner that would be great. Shot Ben. Only contact to the world cup Worth watching.
There is a setting you have to choose the first time you are watching live then it saves it. Look around on the feed next time, it's there on one of the buttons. Can't see it on replay now since already in English.
Maintenant en 2023 je trouve que la vitesse est encore plus élevée et le risque de blessure aussi il va falloir un bon karma pour gagner la coupe du monde
Dak is the fukin man. Go ride at Windrock and you’ll catch him watching the fast groms saying “just wait boys, you have no idea what it takes to race at an elite level”.
Oh Ben, looks like that hike up to the last corner was about all you could handle - you looked stiff from pain on standing about on that turn. Don't overdo it - you need to get healthy and whole!
I really love your content, especially Ben's, what I don't like is that you (Outside) sell my email address to marketeers. This is actually illegal to do in the EU, American company or not.
Cedric is a legend but has got to go. A better person than me could edit his complete nonsence and staiting the obvious together, without the distraction of watching the worlds best and it would be damning. Nothing against him, just not the right guy for the job
I dunno, I really enjoy his french enthusiasm and passion. He's actually pretty on it, noticed those punctures straight away in Lenzerheide. I really don't think he's that bad or any different to Warner. I think Ric and Cedric are doing a great job
Ben can you boot Ric McLaughlin and his 2 seconds to the good ,out and take over the commentary, and also have a word with the production team, don't want to see really high drone shots of little dots coming down the hill , fee like my 6.99 has gone to waste.
No he wouldnt, if Andy had nailed his best pace up top. See where this "would have won" nonsense leads? The clock speaks the truth, the race is over at the line. If you cant get the last corner right, you dont deserve to win. Simple as that.
Bloody Hell Fire: 1.2 seconds… Ben you and your team are the best. Thank you for being there. Sorry about your back: it’ll be fine, like the other one you didn’t know about (I discovered mine in a similar way as it happens when I cracked my pelvis 🙄). Also, nice of you to be so kind to the commentators Ben, but it was rubbish. The other thing is the anchorperson is famously well suited to football… but, so it turns out, not DH. In fact, I’ve watched some of the other disciplines and this person is useless at that too. I mean, how does this person manage to shut down Reece? Seriously, he’s got so much to offer and as soon as his naturally self effacing on camera persona gets into ‘send mode’, boom!, he’s cut out: every time. Just saying…
These guys risk their lives and don't get paid by promoters who want to profit from the riders by subscription to watch and not be as good as the previous free footage 🤨
How about changing the shit corner...they'll remove stumps, roots, rocks...build artificial rock-gardens but won't fix a shit corner that has been a shit corner for years.
Is anyone actually paying to watch? Lol the quality is way down from the years past. It’s not enjoyable to watch, and frankly DH tracks on the circuit are getting lamer and lamer. It’s all bike park flow. I try not to be negative but damn it’s unfortunate what’s happened to the sport :/
I pay but with 4 people it's only 1 euro per month. And yes the commentary is really a mess. And also the tracks are always the same, 70% is bikepark which every "normal" rider could ride without big problems
It's 1 euro per frakking month. 4 Years ago I sold 275 Bitcoins and I think even you would be just fine my Young RUclips padawan warrior without the force and no kyber crystals.
I love Ben Cathro but can you figure out clickbait thumbnails that DON'T SPOIL THE RACE. 100% of the races so far (both of them) screwed the drama because I went to youtube for something else and there was YOUR GRAPHIC. It's burning up my good will for PinkBike, on a season where I'm paying actual money to watch them
Cathro's either on some awesome pain killers, or he's dialing in his comedic abilities, or both. Either way, I LOVE IT!
Can we just take a moment please to appreciate the jump to wall ride at 0:16. And thanks Ben for the continued great content!
I actually watched the rest of the video just to enjoy another enter on the ramp like that one. 🎉
Tom Cardy just rode this course for his channel and talks about this. Man is a slopestyle rider who's used to big jumps and even he said it was nuts that they were doing this.
He admitted that he feels he's a high level rider, generally speaking, but the course humbled him. It truly is insane how these riders take these incredibly difficult courses and go flat out on them.
Cathro does better analysis and commentary than anyone. Anyone.
PBR, please continue!!!
He needs to be the race commentator these new guys suck. Ben could be rob warner 2.0
@@spencerimre I think he’d be just as interesting and just a good a Warner. Different for sure, but every bit as good.
Thank you for analyzing Jackson’s run. I thought it was really interesting and wondered how much he lost in that corner. The rest of his run was amazing.
The Iron Mike Tyson spinal skit had me rolling 🤣
SPINAL!
Great Work Ben! I Wish You a quick Recovery!
the other ben's also quite OK.
One would've thought with all the mistakes happening in the recent years in this exact corner, the new production team would put cameras there to see what's happening.
The drone shots from above were an improvement, but the corners look so easy from that angle, and then there's also that tree blocking the sight...
Stoked for Kolb!
Well done Aimi!
8:04 "Those legs are really small" 🤣 RIP Jackson. I'm sure he's in better pedalling shape than me.
I love the team and Cathros show!!!!
Hahahaha man oh man Cathro, im sure you were the one who edited it in with your humour bro !! But that mike tyson insert was leggggitttt !! I spat my shit out when that pooped in !! Props to you ❤😂😂
great analysis. gcn+ barely mentioned that goldstone mistake, he would have totally won and Finn's drift one corner back cost him the win. Amazing to see those two on fire
Heal well Ben and keep up the great work with team and analysis
Gotta love Cathro, you can FEEL he's passionate about the sport!! Good job guys
one of the most interesting shows for me. Big thanx to Ben and team💥💥
It's amazing to see how many critical points there are on a track. When a major one is at the end things get exciting.
The filming/camera work here is really nice - better than in previous years.
Jackson lost his win in theses last 2 corners.
But he will win a race this year.
Maybe more. He is a Alien. 😎🤟
Congrats to Aimi.
If he came close on a trail this brutal, he 100% is capable of a winning time
Thanks for this great recap/analysis Ben! Happy for the win of the local, but my Canadian hart still a little sad for my 🇨🇦 boys! Aimy!! (Or Micheline I should say 😂) Good job Girl! Super stoked, thanks to PBR to support/ provide all this! ✌️
so stoked for vali. 3 years...
That last corner combination is just a copy of the traverse in the Kitzbühel skiing race haha
Everyone knows what to do but it’s a different story after 90% of the run already done
I agree with Ben saying there was improvements in both the commentary and broadcast however the bar was set low from last week. The broadcast of the junior men was the worst I’ve ever seen. Having to pay $65 for a worse product this year is disappointing. Hope it improves…… a lot!
Just enjoyed Bens analysis. Did not intend to watch pay tv. Thank you Pinkbike
I was amazed by Chris Philogene's save at 1:01. This should make some highlight reels.
My bike park has a drop-rock-turn combo like that. Very glad I decided against trying it.
Cedric - “this guy can win if he goes fast” talking about the fourth rider down who’s qualified 56th 🤦♂️
🤣
He's not wrong. Anyone that qualified can win if they go fast.
Ben. You the awesome
the commentary improved he says lmao, I watched the replay and there was literally no commentary 😂so shit, I had to pay for that stuff and there was no commentary!! the juniors didnt even have any sound!!! watching on GCN btw
go ride stile cop cannock, some of the runs over there just full of rounded stones :) after good rainfall couple places berms are just stones
Yeah it’s always loose there , whether it’s wet or dry 😂
Ami must have sore shoulders, carrying PBR for another weekend 😂😉
Hey Ben, if you can do "Val di Sole" you also do "Lay-o-gung", u know 😉
Great commentary and hope your back heals fully ASAP, please start wearing that canadian bear armor when riding we can't afford to lose you!
Commentary wasn’t great but that’s just my opinion
Horrific. I can't even understand 20% of what Cedric said, and he just randomly shouts like he is trying to copy Rob but didn't read the manual on when to be excited. The Irish guy is all good
"You're not my real dad"
I miss Rob
Nobody can replace Rob Warner. He’s simply the GOAT of MTB commentaries.
Literally it was like Cedric was reading phrases of a script the whole race kept repeating the same thing the whole stream 💀
To say that downhill tracks are gnarly is a serious understatement. Theese people are bombing trails that people wouldn't even hike in half the time.
It’s a shame the commentary and Live feed is a downgrade, but if there’s one thing we can take from the first two rounds it’s that our sport will always produce the goods! In general the media around it is better than ever and once the live coverage finds it’s feet a bit more I reckon downhill will benefit as a sport
redbull was and always will be the best
Dude, Downhill already benefits and has been for a long time, there's plenty of brands glad to sponsor riders, even ones that don't race at all, mountain bikes are being sold of all kinds all the time and parts sell like snacks with the larger brake rotors running out of stock quickly. MTB has seen an insane increase in the last 13 years on audience and riders alike.
We had to watch on mute.
Love the series and want you to have the best success. Couldn't Pinkbike/outside hire someone who's sole job is to organize everything ? It seems like a whole lot of stress and exhaustion for people who are racing
Glad I’m not the only one who found Daks reactions hilarious
"It makes me laugh for reasons I don't understand" - ditto
Is anyone else not a fan of run-ending features like that turn? Its like a test where there is a single question that will fail you no matter how much you studied or how well you did on the rest of the test. There is no line choice in it either, its just hope you can hit it perfectly and that it hasn't shifted or changed too much before your run - a tiny rock getting shifted between runs could turn a first place run into a wipeout. I know thats the nature of the sport but it all coming down to one turn makes it hard to feel like a win is conclusive.
wow, a small mistake that costs 1.21 secconds. that is crazy
That Finn and Bruni diss though...
Haha 😄
Maybe if the new guys found their own style and not try sound like rob Warner that would be great. Shot Ben. Only contact to the world cup Worth watching.
I couldnt find commentary on GCN + and I clicked liveshow too. Does anyone no why?
There is a setting you have to choose the first time you are watching live then it saves it. Look around on the feed next time, it's there on one of the buttons. Can't see it on replay now since already in English.
Amazing thankyou❤
@@aaron.bailey It's not like it's set forever, you switch from language to language as many times as you want 🙂
Maintenant en 2023 je trouve que la vitesse est encore plus élevée et le risque de blessure aussi il va falloir un bon karma pour gagner la coupe du monde
Jackson lost about 0.80 sec on that corner not 1.20
Dak is the fukin man. Go ride at Windrock and you’ll catch him watching the fast groms saying “just wait boys, you have no idea what it takes to race at an elite level”.
Oh Ben, looks like that hike up to the last corner was about all you could handle - you looked stiff from pain on standing about on that turn. Don't overdo it - you need to get healthy and whole!
I really love your content, especially Ben's, what I don't like is that you (Outside) sell my email address to marketeers. This is actually illegal to do in the EU, American company or not.
Cedric is a legend but has got to go. A better person than me could edit his complete nonsence and staiting the obvious together, without the distraction of watching the worlds best and it would be damning. Nothing against him, just not the right guy for the job
"This is Mountain Biking!!!!"
He seems incredibly good at cursing riders too, theres just zero passion behind it which Rob always delivered on. 100% a downgrade
@@shdw_coCedric is all about the money
I dunno, I really enjoy his french enthusiasm and passion. He's actually pretty on it, noticed those punctures straight away in Lenzerheide. I really don't think he's that bad or any different to Warner. I think Ric and Cedric are doing a great job
@@MrOvertSandStorm same, i don't think the video was bad.
Ben can you boot Ric McLaughlin and his 2 seconds to the good ,out and take over the commentary, and also have a word with the production team, don't want to see really high drone shots of little dots coming down the hill , fee like my 6.99 has gone to waste.
Jackson would have won,I'm guessing he lost 1.5 seconds.Sure enough, 1.2 sec.,can't wait for Val Di Sole.
No he wouldnt, if Andy had nailed his best pace up top. See where this "would have won" nonsense leads? The clock speaks the truth, the race is over at the line. If you cant get the last corner right, you dont deserve to win. Simple as that.
Mistakes are part of the game, if you overcook it, you miss your lines and you make mistakes
@@sp00n Thank you, captain obvious 🙂
@@aleksandrakoze9295 Well, you are welcome Sergeant Sarcasm 🤓
Didn’t watch because it’s pay to watch. Plz bring back red bull tv. This is a joke
AIMI 💪
Bloody Hell Fire: 1.2 seconds… Ben you and your team are the best. Thank you for being there. Sorry about your back: it’ll be fine, like the other one you didn’t know about (I discovered mine in a similar way as it happens when I cracked my pelvis 🙄).
Also, nice of you to be so kind to the commentators Ben, but it was rubbish. The other thing is the anchorperson is famously well suited to football… but, so it turns out, not DH. In fact, I’ve watched some of the other disciplines and this person is useless at that too. I mean, how does this person manage to shut down Reece? Seriously, he’s got so much to offer and as soon as his naturally self effacing on camera persona gets into ‘send mode’, boom!, he’s cut out: every time.
Just saying…
UCI needs to be honest and rename it “bike park racing”.
The live commentary was inane. Everything is just less and lame without Rob. F UCI.
You can break Cathro’s back but you can’t break his……words. Or something
These guys risk their lives and don't get paid by promoters who want to profit from the riders by subscription to watch and not be as good as the previous free footage 🤨
Ben: Why were you speaking so quietly, were you avoiding to wake someone up? Were your at someone's grandma's house? I'm asking for real 😅
Ben Cathro to replace Cedric.
P r o m o S M 😂
The racing was great but I feel like I have to turn down or off for the commentary. It's just much too much. Ben, you need to be in that box.
How about changing the shit corner...they'll remove stumps, roots, rocks...build artificial rock-gardens but won't fix a shit corner that has been a shit corner for years.
why because it's DH not XC
I reckon I could ride that last corner on a rigid bike. Slowly with my arse behind the saddle and the brakes on very hard.
Kthanxbye
Is anyone actually paying to watch? Lol the quality is way down from the years past. It’s not enjoyable to watch, and frankly DH tracks on the circuit are getting lamer and lamer. It’s all bike park flow. I try not to be negative but damn it’s unfortunate what’s happened to the sport :/
I pay but with 4 people it's only 1 euro per month. And yes the commentary is really a mess. And also the tracks are always the same, 70% is bikepark which every "normal" rider could ride without big problems
It's 1 euro per frakking month.
4 Years ago I sold 275 Bitcoins and I think even you would be just fine my Young RUclips padawan warrior without the force and no kyber crystals.
I love Ben Cathro but can you figure out clickbait thumbnails that DON'T SPOIL THE RACE. 100% of the races so far (both of them) screwed the drama because I went to youtube for something else and there was YOUR GRAPHIC. It's burning up my good will for PinkBike, on a season where I'm paying actual money to watch them
First
Jackson is already nr 1.. most talented person on a bike.. 🫡