Another error in the film is that Gilbert did not visit the Japanese exhibition until 8 months after he had written the outline for the plot of *The Mikado* and 2 months after finishing Act One.
😮 I was expecting the mistake to be middling; eg, he didn't live in Oslo or he wasn't well-known yet. I did not expect that there was no Oslo!! lol. Well, Gilbert was the master of topsy-turvydom.
Sadly being a nerd I spotted this but the film is such a treasure I forgave it, besides the film is not a documentary and makes no direct claims to historical accuracy - though of course it is essentially accurate in much that is presented.
Such a treasure indeed. It's like enrering a time machine. I find most other period movies so disapointing. They have actors dressed in period garment but behaving like modern people. The excuse is that they were ahead of their time.🙂
Amazing that he acknowledges that mistake but doesnt touch on the "sword falling from the wall" myth! Regardless, still one of my favorite films of all time!
It would have been ‘easy’ to fix if the production had enough budget to do so and if there was existing footage to cut away too. Leigh was not being disingenuous when he said he was angry at himself, if there had been opportunity to correct it, he would have
@@bigred8432 still think It would be easy to correct It. If there's no existing footage you can for exemple zoom in to cahange the angle or cut to another actor and slow down the speed while he says his line.
@@justaguy1451 Whether or not Jim Broadbent would wave his fee or not, it means studio time (at best you send someone to wherever Mr Broadbent is with some digital equipment but you have to pay for that person and their time) a sound editor (the original individual tracks for the soundtrack may no longer exist, if there is no music under that portion of dialogue that saves a lot of issues but it would still have to be edited to match the sound of the existing dialogue. Not an overly complex process but a sound editor still needs to be paid for their time) a film editor (simple or complex, someone has to be paid to do it) and redistributing a new edit of a film to any platform that has it - that means an enormous amount of admin, the original distribution company are not going to foot the bill for it, so who pays the staffing cost of actually distributing a new edit. Making the change will not bring in any revenue but it will cost a lot more than you think it will. It's definition of something for nothing.
for what it's worth this isn't really a big deal, if you watched the film without any knowledge of Norwegian history it doesn't really stand out (as a matter of fact I didn't notice it my 2nd or 3rd viewing). it would be a lot worse if leigh had included some songs from the "yeoman of the guard" (written three years after the mikado) or had grossmith and barrington discussing dracula (written in 1897), it's human nature mistakes do happen and it's one of those things!.
The film did also use music from The Grand Duke, which had not yet been written.
I seem to recall it also used music from The Gondoliers.
Another error in the film is that Gilbert did not visit the Japanese exhibition until 8 months after he had written the outline for the plot of *The Mikado* and 2 months after finishing Act One.
😮 I was expecting the mistake to be middling; eg, he didn't live in Oslo or he wasn't well-known yet. I did not expect that there was no Oslo!! lol. Well, Gilbert was the master of topsy-turvydom.
There are no mistakes in this film.
Sadly being a nerd I spotted this but the film is such a treasure I forgave it, besides the film is not a documentary and makes no direct claims to historical accuracy - though of course it is essentially accurate in much that is presented.
Such a treasure indeed. It's like enrering a time machine. I find most other period movies so disapointing. They have actors dressed in period garment but behaving like modern people. The excuse is that they were ahead of their time.🙂
Amazing that he acknowledges that mistake but doesnt touch on the "sword falling from the wall" myth! Regardless, still one of my favorite films of all time!
That's easy to fix. Just ask Jim Broadbent to redub this part, making sure we don't see him while he says this line.
It would have been ‘easy’ to fix if the production had enough budget to do so and if there was existing footage to cut away too. Leigh was not being disingenuous when he said he was angry at himself, if there had been opportunity to correct it, he would have
@@bigred8432 still think It would be easy to correct It. If there's no existing footage you can for exemple zoom in to cahange the angle or cut to another actor and slow down the speed while he says his line.
@@justaguy1451 Yes but someone has to pay for it.
@@bigred8432 How expensive could it be to fix a 3s audio? We live in a digital era and I'm sure Jim wouldn't charge anything to redub It.
@@justaguy1451 Whether or not Jim Broadbent would wave his fee or not, it means studio time (at best you send someone to wherever Mr Broadbent is with some digital equipment but you have to pay for that person and their time) a sound editor (the original individual tracks for the soundtrack may no longer exist, if there is no music under that portion of dialogue that saves a lot of issues but it would still have to be edited to match the sound of the existing dialogue. Not an overly complex process but a sound editor still needs to be paid for their time) a film editor (simple or complex, someone has to be paid to do it) and redistributing a new edit of a film to any platform that has it - that means an enormous amount of admin, the original distribution company are not going to foot the bill for it, so who pays the staffing cost of actually distributing a new edit. Making the change will not bring in any revenue but it will cost a lot more than you think it will. It's definition of something for nothing.
That's the kind of secret you take to the grave, Leigh.
for what it's worth this isn't really a big deal, if you watched the film without any knowledge of Norwegian history it doesn't really stand out (as a matter of fact I didn't notice it my 2nd or 3rd viewing). it would be a lot worse if leigh had included some songs from the "yeoman of the guard" (written three years after the mikado) or had grossmith and barrington discussing dracula (written in 1897), it's human nature mistakes do happen and it's one of those things!.
But if he had said Kristiania nobody would know where it was. It wasn't actually a documentary however well researched.
FANTASTIC!