Gyoro Gyoro saying no S class could defeat Goketsu means very little to me. GG constantly underestimates the S class. GG thought they could defeat Tatsumaki lmao
@@JaymerFIll fair enough, but GG also though Nyan could take on PPP, yet Nyan didn't stand a remote chance (TBF, i was also suprised by that, but still lol)
Literally the entire series is characters over estimating themselves. Literally like 90% of all strong characters introduced think they’re the strongest
@@paige5158 100% Gyeriuganshup claims to be the most powerful telepath in the universe, yet we don't see anything even relatively close to what Tatsumaki can do. Boros said like 4 times during his fight with Saitama that Saitama was clearly gonna lose. The only character who underestimates themselves is ironically King
I do agree with your statements about awakened garou not being crazily stronger than sleeping garou However once he gets the god slayer he gets so strong he can fight full power plat s and then can tango with sage later which I don't see bang doing I'd also put Plat S above both of them as even while suppressed he is confident in beating someone that he thinks one shot elder centipede And is confident in beating him, then proceeds to get smarter
@@dimensionvisitor7689 Garou never used godslayer fist vs bomb, he did have all those techniques but never used them all at the same time till the fight vs platinum and flash.
With Gyoro Gyoro's shock at Goketsu's defeat I think an important thing to note is: Gyoro Gyoro could probably tell Goketsu was one-shot given the fact there was one loud bang and the lack of any other visible injuries. Gyoro Gyoro could probably assume whoever killed Goketsu was VASTLY stronger in power. Like if it was a long drawn out fight where Goketsu was eventually defeated, Gyoro Gyoro probably would have still been shocked but significantly less so.
Bang and Bomb simply don't have reaction and speed feats even close to Flashy and P Sperm Even FF without his sword is already above them, PE takes it by table Garou > PE >= FF without sword >>> Bang and Bomb
bang literally fought garou 1v1 like 5 minutes before garou fought flashy flash and im pretty sure h elasted longer, and this video is talking 2v1s. Bang also fought garou like 5 minues before bang and held his own. They literally do scale to near FF speed, maybe go reasd the actual manga with the fights first. Also being faster than someone doesnt just mean you instantly win a fight lol. Cringe anime fans really be like "well character x is 2% faster so they win". A top fuel dragster is way faster than an F1 car but guess what it'll lose in any race with a single turn. Just because flashy flash can run really fast in a straight line while he's flying through the sky fighting doesnt mean he can punch, kick, and manouver as fast as bang or bomb, liek an olympic track athlete doesnt win in a ju jitsu fight because he is "faster" because I garuntee their kicks and punches are much slower.
See you've been making good videos lately. I agree with everything except Platinum as i would consider him to be way faster and powerful even while Flashy was on the fight. Other than that I like how you don't downplay the ninja duo, but i wouldnt put them individually above Golden. They should be relative but i would say Golden should be stronger and faster (by a little, or having the same speed).
Bang vs golden s or vs gouketsu would be amazing to see. Platinum S is just too much, even for both bang and bomb together, and its not close at all. Even if you added flash with a sword to the brothers side, Platinum s would still win.
It doesn’t make sense for Bang, Bomb, Flashy Flash, Platinum S, Sleeping Monster Garou, & Awaken Monster Garou to be at similar level. Because that would mean Flashy Flash, Platinum S, & AM-Garou are all weaker than Elder Centipede. The power from both Bang & Bomb did nothing to Elder Centipede, and they only helped EC shed his own skin. While Bang on his own was practically matching SM-Garou. Even if Bang was stronger than Bomb, the gap between them wouldn’t be so big because right before Bomb fought SM-Garou, he gave away his energy to help TankTop Master. So arguably, Bamb at full strength could be able to fight SM-Garou like how Bang did. So if Bang & Bomb are at similar levels, and if they can scale to Awaken Monster Garou. Then AM-Garou on his own will do far less damage on EC than what Bang & Bomb did. And it even worse if Bang & Bomb can scale to Flashy Flash & Platinum S, because FF & PS don’t have any attacks that make devastating vibration like how Bang, Bomb, & Garou can. Then FF & PS will be even less effective against EC. It would makes more sense that Awaken Monster Garou is stronger than Sleeping Monster Garou, And that Flashy Flash & Platinum S are both stronger than Bang & Bomb.
@@ethanaguilera7522 He's right Elder Centipede is relative or slightly above to them, being very large and having regeneration and molting once his shell is damaged makes it difficult to put him down. They literally stated martial arts of Bang style wouldn't be effective because his size. Unless you were vastly more powerful than him (Saitama's One shot negating his regen) and also how Garou powered up and split Sage in Half. Gouketsu, Golden Sperm, Platinum Sperm and Elder Centipede are all relative to each other difference would be based on their gimmick. Golden Is Brute force, Platinum is Speed, Elder is regeneration and size, while Gouketsu is martial arts.
Of course there’s a difference, Elder Centipede’s shell was destroyed by Bang and Bomb’s attack but the attack only did a small amount of damage when Garou used it on Sage Centipede
The brothers are getting a B- on this gauntlet but Platinum S is filling them up like water balloons 💦 No lube Hella hair pulling Wallahi they’re getting violated
Only issue I have with the Platinum S part is that we not seen bang or bomb come even close to the speeds shown in the 3 way and later 1 on 1 fight with flashy, garou and ps so i dont see how they even be able to counter him let alone hit him i think they lose just do to lack of speed and not being able to react if they could connect sure they win but i dont think they can
it’s hard to say if bang can keep up with the speed during the 1 on 1, but he can definitely deal with the speed in the 3 way due to having superior combat speed and experience
its kind of a toss up. sure bang and bomb cant move super fast, but they can perceive things moving fast and have very quick reaction times. I doubt theyd be able to go on the offense against plat s, it basically be plat s attacking super fast from different angles trying to find an opening and bang/bomb staying mostly stationary trying to deflect and slip in a counter attack. If plat s is smart and stays moving in and out and doesnt engage too long I think he eventually wears them down and wins. If he is dumb and stays close the whole time trying to throw punches he probably loses
Ooh i want a piece of this My take before watching this SB vs Gums SB no diff SB vs Nyan SB no-low diff SB vs Base Fuhrer Ugly SB no diff SB vs Black S SB low-mid diff SB vs Evil Natural Ocean SB low diff SB vs Phoenix Man SB low-mid diff SB vs Vomited Fuhrer Ugly SB low diff SB vs HG SB low-mid diff SB vs Homeless Emperor SB low-mid diff SB vs Gouketsu SB mid diff SB vs Gyoro Gyoro SB mid diff SB vs Golden S SB mid diff SB vs Evil Natural Water 3rd Form EVW Extreme Diff SB vs Overgrown Rover Overgrown Rover Extreme Diff SB vs Elder Centipede Elder Centipede High Diff SB vs Psykos Psykos Mid-High Diff SB Vs King Orochi Orochi Mid-low Diff SB vs Platinum S Platinum S Mid-low Diff SB vs Sage Centipede Sage Centipede low Diff SB vs ENO ENO no-low Diff
@@BJackson-kg5drhaven’t seen OP but as far as I’m concerned Garou unless in cosmic form wouldn’t beat the naruto verse and even cosmic might lose to the truth seeking orbs
First of all ill say good or great analysis video 👍🏻 Simple answer:- except of platinum s, rover, psychos and acid monster, Yes bang and bomb would have won and defeated all of them , Why bcz they were all good and holding back there technics for garo , but if its about killing then this duo is lethal
Please make a gauntlet type video of the s class vs monster association(like lets say its puri puri prisoner vs manako or something then the next steingest member of the minster wssociation fughts ouri puri until puri puri gets defeated and then tanktop master comes in until ine team has no more members and thats how the thing would work)
Bang almost beat monster garou while holding back a little bit and this garou beat platinum s so when you combine bomb who is about equal to bang they do have a chance but yeah plat s wins like 7/10 times
Evil Natural Water, EC, Rover, and Platinum S slaughter bang and Bomb. The rest get beat except Goketsu and Childless Emperor those are the Only draws.
Bang and Bomb would take Goketsu easily. There's no way Goketsu could get through Bang's defence and redirection. With Bomb helping him with whirlwind iron cutting fist and combo attacks, goketsu is gone.
I think with Homeless emperor, an important factor is Bang might be able to redirect one of the orbs to hit Homeless Emperor. There is a definite possibility that this turns into a double knockout because of a few redirected orbs. Even if HE went all out with his orchestra right away, Bang could probably redirect a couple before going down. I think another thing to point out is that HE has pretty awful aim. Like for every orb that does hit a ton of them are just kinda blowing up nearby.
Also never consider option C of Mid-getsu. Genos was overstating that way too hard, for what Goketsu ended up being. For starters Genos was defeated effortlessly, but even then Saitama at his worse can one-shot Above Dragons like Orochi with a casual normal punch. Goketsu somehow left Genos still alive after hitting him once. Had he'd been that much stronger Genos would've exploded. Unknown to how much Goketsu was holding back, but still. But i mean for sure Goketsu shouldnt be compared to Saitama's feats Those huge overstatements were to hype Goketsu up. And it seems crazy. The cadres thought Goketsu couldn't even be defeated by Tatsumaki at least? They literally had no info on the true strength of many heroes. Murata literally was hyping him up.
Against monster cardre there are only few s class heros who can stand and can kill them all ( except blast) At top definitely 1- tornado of terror, TATSUMAKI, yes she can kill all of them .... 2- flashy flash 2- atomic samurai ( Bcz of speed and power ) 3- silver fang aka Bang and bomb 4- metal bat Only these heros have that level of potential in my opinion and observation
you guys are disgustingly underestimating Gouketsu's skill. He won the most infamous,prestigious martial arts tournament of all time and the competition was stated to be outright unparalleled to the following superfight tournaments,which even lead Suiryu to believe Gouketsu's skills wholly outclassed his own. He was so elite that even saitama remembered his accolades as a martial artist. It was kind of an afterthought for Saitama because obviously he didn't feel anything from Gouketsu but even the fact he remembered tells how much Suiryu and the story wanted to stress how elite of a martial artist he was. Like he was *that* guy in the martial artist world Suiryu is a martial arts prodigy and based on the OVA and murata he's equal in skill to hero hunter Garou. So the bare minimum baseline that you're working with is that Gouketsu is significantly above HHG and he should be capable of demonstrating a similar level of dominance over him as bang displayed. Additionally Murata expressed how much he wanted Orochi to utilize Gouketsu's technique against Saitama which never made the final draft but it's showing that he puts it on such a high pedestal that he's suggesting Orochi would find it useful enough to pull it out against Saitama Which is consistent with how it's portrayed in the story. Knowing that Garou actually utilized it in his god slayer fist. If you look at the styles he absorbed one of them is the fist of the three legged crows which is clearly Gouketsu's trademark style considering his disciples are literally three legged crows. the fact Garou used it in his ultimate style speaks volumes about it. And proves that it's intended to be one of the best styles in the verse right next to water stream and iron cutting fist. Using showings,statements and insight from the author it can be inferred that Gouketsu is one of the best martial artists in the verse and it should be reasonable to consider him a peer to Bang and Bomb What does it mean in this context? Well it means that Bang and bomb are not going to show levels in h2h and he clearly has the fight iq and skills to keep up with them. Now i am willing to concede that Bang AND bomb working together will outclass any technique GK can perform on his own but you have to remember that Gouketsu surpassed his humanity when he turned into a monster. His weak spots as a human can't be exploited as a monster and monsterizing only makes him a more efficient deadly martial artist. his chameleon eyes can track all of bang and bomb's movements and leave no room attacking for blind spots or sneak attacks. Plus depending on the nature of his martial arts he can use them to an even further degree after enhancing himself. From what little we saw of his combat he seems to possess an extremely sophisticated system of blocking,parrying and redirecting momentum against opponents which he showed against Bakuzan. It also cannot be ruled out that he incorporated his shockwaves into his style to make it ever more deadly. it seems to me that Gouketsu is the achilles heel to Bang and Bomb. In addition to being much more physically capable he seems to possess the most advanced qualities of both of their techniques; redirection and air manipulation. While also possessing sharper senses in general like his enhanced vision his other senses are probably enhanced as well. Gouketsu is just genetically superior. He is better. Bang and Bomb have no answer for him. He was groomed by Gyoro to be the second strongest asset after Orochi
I think bang and bomb defeat gouketsu. When gyoro gyoro was shocked he was defeated I think this shock was on a couple assumptions: blastr was not goiing to be present at any time during their attacks, and based on how his corpse looked he didnt fight tatsumaki and it was known that she was elsewhere. Based on that, gyoro gyoro was only assuming he was stronger than any of the other s class (when solo), but gyoro gyoro is also omniscient and has been shown to be wrong, he underestimated tatsumakis power. When compared to elder centipede he said the only heros he thought could defeat EC were blast & tats (which could obviously solo gouketsu), king who's power levels were based off saitamas feats but his true strength is known to GG. king has no actual data on any of his fighting styles since GG is assuming he actually has powers, only data is the monsters he has killed so GG is potentially assuming that gouketsus combination of strength and fighting skill is a good matchup for kings pure strength. He also thinks metal knight could kill EC mostly based on metal knights unknown power level. Wouldnt be a stretch to say that GG underestimated bangs power level and is not considering him teamed with bomb. He is probably assuming that gouketsus fighting skills, though not on par with bang, combined with his strength and size will outmatch bang, which I dont think is true.
Psykos got left out, but I otherwise agree. I also think Bang would be more willing to use the Exploding Heart Release Fist against the Cadres than against Garou.
If they were both in their prime with bang being able to use heart release fist without consequence and both bang and bomb used awakening breath then they could easily beat the cadres
He was pretty much going all out regardless, just not trying to kill him and avoiding to use the Heart Release Fist but his "peak" isn't that far off from what he showed against Garou.
@@Lilian620. That physically won't make a difference, garou was so fast and strong that if bang tried to kill him it would end in the same way, with him collapsing due to grazes and managing to land that one punch
Regarding the death Gatling thing, I’m pretty sure the beam of lights is mostly artistic representation like his skull face, as if it were literally like a solid beam, Death Gatling would have needed like millions of bullets. But even if we grant that, bullets are super slow compared to these top tier characters. Light orbs are fast enough to chase Tatsumaki and hit VFU before he dodges who can react to Darkshine’s full power and intercept awakened Bang. So I think it depends on distance from each other. Also regarding Gouketsu, people always forget to include the feat of replicating the manga death punch. The same level of power that made Flashy Flash sweat profusely. Suiryu saw Saitama one shot a dragon level monster, and still thought he stood zero chance against Gouketsu. People seriously underestimate the death punch Gouketsu performed. We have never seen Bang punch the air and do something like that and create city sized atmospheric shockwaves. Suiryu also blatantly created light trails with his speed and Goatketsu was invisible in speed to Suiryu. Suiryu also blocked a light orb which is confirmed to be the same stuff HE use, which dented VFU who matched a full power DS with no damage, yet Suiryu full power punching Gouketsu’s eyes couldn’t make him blink. I think the shock that Genos, Suiryu, and Psychos is understandable. I give it to Gouketsu easily. Regarding Platinum S, I think pretty much all problems are solved by the fact that PS specialized in speed and GS specialized in power. FF gets cut up by fodder heavenly ninjas who think a sonic booms are impressive and almost died from human Gale pulling the steel wires, while DS is completely immune to steel, and took pretty much zero damage from dragon slayer fist. This means PS was able to be far faster than FF, but he could not one shot FF which is why he asked Garou for help. PS is a superior combination of the cells, but he said to FF that like DS, when outclassed by someone in their specialty, they protect their pride. Key word specialty, as FF specializes in speed and DS in power. I give it to PS easily BS also wins, as Bang said he was getting overwhelmed by the clones, while Darkshine is a perfect matchup against BS. No way Bang and Bomb old man stamina can kill all tens of trillions of them. It’s will take a while, but they can chip away at Bang and Bomb as they can break apart Genos who was more durable then Gums bite force
The light orb suiryu blocked is just has the same property as the ones HE used, it doesn’t mean they have the same power, 1 ton of tnt has the same property as 10 tons of tnt, but the latter is massively stronger
@@dimensionvisitor7689 sure, but the explosion of Chozes was way bigger then the ones Homless Emperor used on VFU, so you are only proving my point further
@@renocicchi7346 big boom ≠ stronger, the fact that suiryu can block it without getting injured actually proves that choze's blast is significantly weaker than HE's. as suiryu is weaker than early human garou
@@dimensionvisitor7689 I hate using this word, but this is pure Cope. how is that proven. It’s literally stated they are the same attack. You just really want to downplay Suiryu. He was literally creating light trails with his speed, he is heavily underrated. Luckily people in Japan understand Suiryu and Chozes level placing them at dragon level, I don’t really care if you disagree with me
@@renocicchi7346 if anything, "It’s literally stated they are the same attack" this is pure cope, all it was stated is that they are the same thing, which means they are made of the same kind of energy, strength is never part of the statement, again TNT and TNT are the same thing, but 1 ton and 10 tons makes a difference. like all nuclear based attacks shares the property of being made of nuclear energy, but it doesn't mean they are all the same strength. take cosmic garou's nuclear fission fist as an example, it has the same property as a normal nuke, does this mean it's only as strong as an average nuke? this is essentially what you are arguing, which is blatantly re-tard-ed. it also doesn't help your argument when it was later CONFIRMED AND SHOWN that these light orbs ranges in power drastically, the ones on the stronger sides were capable of damaging vomit ugly (who took a double bazooka from dark shine without taking damage) while weaker ones are unable to overpower people like spring mustache and iaian "Luckily people in Japan understand Suiryu and Chozes level placing them at dragon level" this just means they are really bad at powerscaling. suiryu and choze's best feats at literally just being a one shot tier above average a class heroes, which only puts them concretely above DSK, which is fodder even in just demon level (this is also someone pre G4 genos folds). and dehydrated, sick, poisoned, heavily injured early human garou has better feats than both of them, yet this garou after fully recovers and gets a massive zenkai boost, still struggles with high demon levels and was stated to be nowhere near dragon level after getting another zenkai boost. if it's not because murata actually state suiryu, G4 genos and metal bat fight garou are all relative, he'd be way lower on the tier. Choze was also specifically stated to be not dragon level in canon material, so I don’t know what are those “Japanese people” smoking when they said choze and suiryu are dragon level
why would most people ignore that gauro in his fight with bang was using awakened breath which draws out full power/potential from body . which means only difference between awake and sleep gauro was that of martial arts
@@effortless4588 he is better fighter only because of martial arts in fight with bang he used awakened breath which is said tot draw out max power out of a body . ys awake gauro was better fighter then sleep gauro but that was mostly due to more refined martial arts
@@mikeym.4724 it goes against lore of series it was just that he was up against opponents that are speedstres rather then fast hand to hand they were moving in fast linear speeds
@@shubhamdhull2060 Not really. Garou was evolving at all times and went under mayor power ups after fighting each enemy. And he removed His limiter Who are you to say he didnt just got Stronger after fighting Bang? Bang by your logic pushed him to the limit. And Again he clearly wasn't as powerful as when he was Sleeping. Literally who would fight better while sleeping?
He doesn't have the speed feats. Originally he was able to evade a normal Punch from Saitama. But since that was retconned, he just doesn't have anything to say he'd be as fast. Plus Flashy proved to be much faster when going at full power. Is not like he Is always at 100%
@@amogus1415 By being at full power Flashy Is certainly many times More powerful. He was fighting on par with Demon level Hellfire and Gale because he was holding back. Had he'd been using More of His Power he would've blitzed them on the spot. Even when Hellfire and Gale went full power on him with their Dragon forms, Flashy was still able to kill them Both. Flashy only "struggled" with a demon level Octopus because he didnt use His full power from the Start. Had Flashy been at 100% Psykos would've never "blitzed" him. At full power Flashy Flash was able to fight with Platinum and Monster Garou and not being instantly Taken down.
@@amogus1415 No Bro you are delusional. Even on real Life everyone can react faster than what they can move. Flashy even after noticing Garou and Platinum were faster than him, he could still react to them. Which means His reaction Time Is faster than His movement speed when he Is using full power.
I feel like during this entire video you two have been making statements assuming that Bomb can keep up with Bang which is just not true as Bomb has never shown the ability to use the Awakening Breath... The truth is that Bomb becomes irrelevant quite early on xd. From every fight after Vomited Furher Ugly Bomb will just be sidelined... And also the disrespect on Golden S's name in terms of his pure power is insane xd.
Bomb shows feats against monster Garou just like Bang and is stated to be more powerful than Bang as well. He doesn’t need the awakening breath. Golden S also just ain’t that strong
Hellfire and Gale are for sure the most underrated members of the Monster Association by a lot.
most wanked
Dimple for golden S lmao
I can’t wait to see sperm on the big screen 😊
I was wondering why he was there 😂
Gyoro Gyoro saying no S class could defeat Goketsu means very little to me. GG constantly underestimates the S class. GG thought they could defeat Tatsumaki lmao
thats more like tatsumaki never been pushed enough to use her full strength
@@JaymerFIll fair enough, but GG also though Nyan could take on PPP, yet Nyan didn't stand a remote chance (TBF, i was also suprised by that, but still lol)
Literally the entire series is characters over estimating themselves. Literally like 90% of all strong characters introduced think they’re the strongest
@@paige5158 100%
Gyeriuganshup claims to be the most powerful telepath in the universe, yet we don't see anything even relatively close to what Tatsumaki can do. Boros said like 4 times during his fight with Saitama that Saitama was clearly gonna lose. The only character who underestimates themselves is ironically King
@@chrrmin1979 Tatsumaki can hide her power level.
I do agree with your statements about awakened garou not being crazily stronger than sleeping garou
However once he gets the god slayer he gets so strong he can fight full power plat s and then can tango with sage later which I don't see bang doing
I'd also put Plat S above both of them as even while suppressed he is confident in beating someone that he thinks one shot elder centipede
And is confident in beating him, then proceeds to get smarter
Issue is, according to bomb, sleeping garou already has god slayer fist, he just didn’t name it yet
@@dimensionvisitor7689 Garou never used godslayer fist vs bomb, he did have all those techniques but never used them all at the same time till the fight vs platinum and flash.
@@cristianconnolly2709 it’s explicitly stated that, garou refined and merged all his techniques into one against bomb
With Gyoro Gyoro's shock at Goketsu's defeat I think an important thing to note is: Gyoro Gyoro could probably tell Goketsu was one-shot given the fact there was one loud bang and the lack of any other visible injuries. Gyoro Gyoro could probably assume whoever killed Goketsu was VASTLY stronger in power. Like if it was a long drawn out fight where Goketsu was eventually defeated, Gyoro Gyoro probably would have still been shocked but significantly less so.
Plat s alone would floor them. Plat s is overkill
Bang and Bomb simply don't have reaction and speed feats even close to Flashy and P Sperm
Even FF without his sword is already above them, PE takes it by table
Garou > PE >= FF without sword >>> Bang and Bomb
lucid, they really overestimate their brothers too much
This channel overestimates Bang at all costs
Watch his video about FF vs Bang and see how all the comments show how he just said nonsense
bang literally fought garou 1v1 like 5 minutes before garou fought flashy flash and im pretty sure h elasted longer, and this video is talking 2v1s. Bang also fought garou like 5 minues before bang and held his own. They literally do scale to near FF speed, maybe go reasd the actual manga with the fights first. Also being faster than someone doesnt just mean you instantly win a fight lol. Cringe anime fans really be like "well character x is 2% faster so they win". A top fuel dragster is way faster than an F1 car but guess what it'll lose in any race with a single turn. Just because flashy flash can run really fast in a straight line while he's flying through the sky fighting doesnt mean he can punch, kick, and manouver as fast as bang or bomb, liek an olympic track athlete doesnt win in a ju jitsu fight because he is "faster" because I garuntee their kicks and punches are much slower.
"This guy loses to puppies."
_shows image of Rover_
Well, yeah. That puppy is no joke!
See you've been making good videos lately.
I agree with everything except Platinum as i would consider him to be way faster and powerful even while Flashy was on the fight.
Other than that I like how you don't downplay the ninja duo, but i wouldnt put them individually above Golden. They should be relative but i would say Golden should be stronger and faster (by a little, or having the same speed).
Bang vs golden s or vs gouketsu would be amazing to see. Platinum S is just too much, even for both bang and bomb together, and its not close at all. Even if you added flash with a sword to the brothers side, Platinum s would still win.
It doesn’t make sense for Bang, Bomb, Flashy Flash, Platinum S, Sleeping Monster Garou, & Awaken Monster Garou to be at similar level.
Because that would mean Flashy Flash, Platinum S, & AM-Garou are all weaker than Elder Centipede.
The power from both Bang & Bomb did nothing to Elder Centipede, and they only helped EC shed his own skin. While Bang on his own was practically matching SM-Garou.
Even if Bang was stronger than Bomb, the gap between them wouldn’t be so big because right before Bomb fought SM-Garou, he gave away his energy to help TankTop Master. So arguably, Bamb at full strength could be able to fight SM-Garou like how Bang did.
So if Bang & Bomb are at similar levels, and if they can scale to Awaken Monster Garou. Then AM-Garou on his own will do far less damage on EC than what Bang & Bomb did.
And it even worse if Bang & Bomb can scale to Flashy Flash & Platinum S, because FF & PS don’t have any attacks that make devastating vibration like how Bang, Bomb, & Garou can. Then FF & PS will be even less effective against EC.
It would makes more sense that Awaken Monster Garou is stronger than Sleeping Monster Garou,
And that Flashy Flash & Platinum S are both stronger than Bang & Bomb.
Yeah that just means Elder Centipede is above them all lol
@@Professor_Fiction That would mean Sage Centipede is practically no different than Elder Centipede.
That doesn’t make any sense.
@@ethanaguilera7522 He's right Elder Centipede is relative or slightly above to them, being very large and having regeneration and molting once his shell is damaged makes it difficult to put him down. They literally stated martial arts of Bang style wouldn't be effective because his size. Unless you were vastly more powerful than him (Saitama's One shot negating his regen) and also how Garou powered up and split Sage in Half.
Gouketsu, Golden Sperm, Platinum Sperm and Elder Centipede are all relative to each other difference would be based on their gimmick. Golden Is Brute force, Platinum is Speed, Elder is regeneration and size, while Gouketsu is martial arts.
Of course there’s a difference, Elder Centipede’s shell was destroyed by Bang and Bomb’s attack but the attack only did a small amount of damage when Garou used it on Sage Centipede
Platinum S solo bang and bomb
and everyone else on this vid easily
@@Natty5D Agreed!
@@Natty5D Idk Psykos-Orochi would kill him.
W bro love these videos
The brothers are getting a B- on this gauntlet but Platinum S is filling them up like water balloons 💦
No lube
Hella hair pulling
Wallahi they’re getting violated
Only issue I have with the Platinum S part is that we not seen bang or bomb come even close to the speeds shown in the 3 way and later 1 on 1 fight with flashy, garou and ps so i dont see how they even be able to counter him let alone hit him i think they lose just do to lack of speed and not being able to react if they could connect sure they win but i dont think they can
it’s hard to say if bang can keep up with the speed during the 1 on 1, but he can definitely deal with the speed in the 3 way due to having superior combat speed and experience
its kind of a toss up. sure bang and bomb cant move super fast, but they can perceive things moving fast and have very quick reaction times. I doubt theyd be able to go on the offense against plat s, it basically be plat s attacking super fast from different angles trying to find an opening and bang/bomb staying mostly stationary trying to deflect and slip in a counter attack. If plat s is smart and stays moving in and out and doesnt engage too long I think he eventually wears them down and wins. If he is dumb and stays close the whole time trying to throw punches he probably loses
@@dimensionvisitor7689i guess he can keep up with anyone in the show cause of combat experience
@@dimensionvisitor7689 bang cant even keep up with garou that performed the king move
@@Natty5D bang was literally bullying garou
Ooh i want a piece of this
My take before watching this
SB vs Gums
SB no diff
SB vs Nyan
SB no-low diff
SB vs Base Fuhrer Ugly
SB no diff
SB vs Black S
SB low-mid diff
SB vs Evil Natural Ocean
SB low diff
SB vs Phoenix Man
SB low-mid diff
SB vs Vomited Fuhrer Ugly
SB low diff
SB vs HG
SB low-mid diff
SB vs Homeless Emperor
SB low-mid diff
SB vs Gouketsu
SB mid diff
SB vs Gyoro Gyoro
SB mid diff
SB vs Golden S
SB mid diff
SB vs Evil Natural Water 3rd Form
EVW Extreme Diff
SB vs Overgrown Rover
Overgrown Rover Extreme Diff
SB vs Elder Centipede
Elder Centipede High Diff
SB vs Psykos
Psykos Mid-High Diff
SB Vs King Orochi
Orochi Mid-low Diff
SB vs Platinum S
Platinum S Mid-low Diff
SB vs Sage Centipede
Sage Centipede low Diff
SB vs ENO
ENO no-low Diff
I follow the B interpretation of Gouketsu
Make video on garou vs naruto verse and one peice verse
Easily beats OP and I think high diffs Narutoe but I haven’t seen it so I could be wrong
@@BJackson-kg5drhaven’t seen OP but as far as I’m concerned Garou unless in cosmic form wouldn’t beat the naruto verse and even cosmic might lose to the truth seeking orbs
@@Rue21341 same doubt i had, that's why i want a video
@@BJackson-kg5dr i think you underestimating op verse, there is a video on atomic samurai vs zoro go nd watch you will get glimpse of op verse
@@Sagar-pu8sj I don’t think so AS is a ify fighter but I do believe that OP is strong but OPM is just crazy
First of all ill say good or great analysis video 👍🏻
Simple answer:- except of platinum s, rover, psychos and acid monster,
Yes bang and bomb would have won and defeated all of them ,
Why bcz they were all good and holding back there technics for garo , but if its about killing then this duo is lethal
I forgot to mention evil natural water and mega centipede.... Yes this are un bearable for them
Rover was such a good boy
Please make a gauntlet type video of the s class vs monster association(like lets say its puri puri prisoner vs manako or something then the next steingest member of the minster wssociation fughts ouri puri until puri puri gets defeated and then tanktop master comes in until ine team has no more members and thats how the thing would work)
Red garou that fought Orochi vs Jujutsu Kaisen
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m pretty sure they stand no chance against plat s
Bang almost beat monster garou while holding back a little bit and this garou beat platinum s so when you combine bomb who is about equal to bang they do have a chance but yeah plat s wins like 7/10 times
Also I wonder what would happen if garou used his sky ripping fist against plat s. Would plat get 1-shotted?
Ok I finished the video and was genuinely surprised that Bang and Bomb could stand up to him!I really overestimated plat s 😅
EXCELLENT WORK. PROFESSOR FICTION ONE PUNCH 👊 MAN,
@@professionalnoob9158 This guy who faced Bang was sleeping, stop being dishonest
Can you scale the gen v characters and compare then to the boys characters
Stay tuned
Evil Natural Water, EC, Rover, and Platinum S slaughter bang and Bomb. The rest get beat except Goketsu and Childless Emperor those are the Only draws.
Bang and Bomb would take Goketsu easily. There's no way Goketsu could get through Bang's defence and redirection. With Bomb helping him with whirlwind iron cutting fist and combo attacks, goketsu is gone.
I think with Homeless emperor, an important factor is Bang might be able to redirect one of the orbs to hit Homeless Emperor. There is a definite possibility that this turns into a double knockout because of a few redirected orbs. Even if HE went all out with his orchestra right away, Bang could probably redirect a couple before going down. I think another thing to point out is that HE has pretty awful aim. Like for every orb that does hit a ton of them are just kinda blowing up nearby.
Why was dimple in the thumbnail??
(I have not watched the video yet, this is my first thought) elder centipede?
Also never consider option C of Mid-getsu.
Genos was overstating that way too hard, for what Goketsu ended up being.
For starters Genos was defeated effortlessly, but even then Saitama at his worse can one-shot Above Dragons like Orochi with a casual normal punch.
Goketsu somehow left Genos still alive after hitting him once. Had he'd been that much stronger Genos would've exploded. Unknown to how much Goketsu was holding back, but still.
But i mean for sure Goketsu shouldnt be compared to Saitama's feats
Those huge overstatements were to hype Goketsu up. And it seems crazy. The cadres thought Goketsu couldn't even be defeated by Tatsumaki at least? They literally had no info on the true strength of many heroes.
Murata literally was hyping him up.
Yeah but goketsu was trying to recruit people not kill them, he's not gonna pass up a chance to monsterize an s class, he was probably holding back
@@isaacscribellito1110 not sure about that.
He was trying to recruit people at the arena. The cadres were supposed to exterminate the S class
Bro's entire argument can be debunked by just acknowledging that plot armor exists
@@breakingbread9313
And nothing can be proven about mid-getsu because he's got 0 feats.
@@CameraPunk5049 so you fall into category A where you willfully choose to ignore statements and dialogue from the story the context they are made in
Why is dimple there lol
Let’s goo
wait what about Pheonix man? Wasn't he one of the stronger monsters
Yeah but they just said the cadres. Sucks cause Phoenix man is my favorite monster
maybe if they had suiryu
That useless mid that could lose while getting jumped by just a few birds?
@@G4M3R1R0N we just ignore context i guess
He lost with broken bones and spirit
@@dull1831 we just cant sense that something is a joke i guess
hello this is comment 138
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GREAT PROFESSOR FICTION CAN BANG AND BOMB BEAT THE CADRES VIDEO.
Hi 👋 Has nothing do to with this video but do you think Garou can hunt Deku / Almight?
Yes
Against monster cardre there are only few s class heros who can stand and can kill them all ( except blast)
At top definitely
1- tornado of terror, TATSUMAKI, yes she can kill all of them ....
2- flashy flash
2- atomic samurai
( Bcz of speed and power )
3- silver fang aka Bang and bomb
4- metal bat
Only these heros have that level of potential in my opinion and observation
you guys are disgustingly underestimating Gouketsu's skill. He won the most infamous,prestigious martial arts tournament of all time and the competition was stated to be outright unparalleled to the following superfight tournaments,which even lead Suiryu to believe Gouketsu's skills wholly outclassed his own. He was so elite that even saitama remembered his accolades as a martial artist. It was kind of an afterthought for Saitama because obviously he didn't feel anything from Gouketsu but even the fact he remembered tells how much Suiryu and the story wanted to stress how elite of a martial artist he was. Like he was *that* guy in the martial artist world
Suiryu is a martial arts prodigy and based on the OVA and murata he's equal in skill to hero hunter Garou. So the bare minimum baseline that you're working with is that Gouketsu is significantly above HHG and he should be capable of demonstrating a similar level of dominance over him as bang displayed.
Additionally Murata expressed how much he wanted Orochi to utilize Gouketsu's technique against Saitama which never made the final draft but it's showing that he puts it on such a high pedestal that he's suggesting Orochi would find it useful enough to pull it out against Saitama
Which is consistent with how it's portrayed in the story. Knowing that Garou actually utilized it in his god slayer fist. If you look at the styles he absorbed one of them is the fist of the three legged crows which is clearly Gouketsu's trademark style considering his disciples are literally three legged crows. the fact Garou used it in his ultimate style speaks volumes about it. And proves that it's intended to be one of the best styles in the verse right next to water stream and iron cutting fist.
Using showings,statements and insight from the author it can be inferred that Gouketsu is one of the best martial artists in the verse and it should be reasonable to consider him a peer to Bang and Bomb
What does it mean in this context? Well it means that Bang and bomb are not going to show levels in h2h and he clearly has the fight iq and skills to keep up with them. Now i am willing to concede that Bang AND bomb working together will outclass any technique GK can perform on his own but you have to remember that Gouketsu surpassed his humanity when he turned into a monster. His weak spots as a human can't be exploited as a monster and monsterizing only makes him a more efficient deadly martial artist. his chameleon eyes can track all of bang and bomb's movements and leave no room attacking for blind spots or sneak attacks. Plus depending on the nature of his martial arts he can use them to an even further degree after enhancing himself. From what little we saw of his combat he seems to possess an extremely sophisticated system of blocking,parrying and redirecting momentum against opponents which he showed against Bakuzan.
It also cannot be ruled out that he incorporated his shockwaves into his style to make it ever more deadly. it seems to me that Gouketsu is the achilles heel to Bang and Bomb. In addition to being much more physically capable he seems to possess the most advanced qualities of both of their techniques; redirection and air manipulation. While also possessing sharper senses in general like his enhanced vision his other senses are probably enhanced as well. Gouketsu is just genetically superior. He is better. Bang and Bomb have no answer for him. He was groomed by Gyoro to be the second strongest asset after Orochi
For the Goketsu part I use this scale
Bang and Bomb (individuals)
I agree with all but they’re not beating any version or water tbh
Excellent Video :D
Keep Up The Good Work
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I think bang and bomb defeat gouketsu. When gyoro gyoro was shocked he was defeated I think this shock was on a couple assumptions: blastr was not goiing to be present at any time during their attacks, and based on how his corpse looked he didnt fight tatsumaki and it was known that she was elsewhere. Based on that, gyoro gyoro was only assuming he was stronger than any of the other s class (when solo), but gyoro gyoro is also omniscient and has been shown to be wrong, he underestimated tatsumakis power. When compared to elder centipede he said the only heros he thought could defeat EC were blast & tats (which could obviously solo gouketsu), king who's power levels were based off saitamas feats but his true strength is known to GG. king has no actual data on any of his fighting styles since GG is assuming he actually has powers, only data is the monsters he has killed so GG is potentially assuming that gouketsus combination of strength and fighting skill is a good matchup for kings pure strength. He also thinks metal knight could kill EC mostly based on metal knights unknown power level. Wouldnt be a stretch to say that GG underestimated bangs power level and is not considering him teamed with bomb. He is probably assuming that gouketsus fighting skills, though not on par with bang, combined with his strength and size will outmatch bang, which I dont think is true.
Gouketsu handles them both ezy
Psykos got left out, but I otherwise agree.
I also think Bang would be more willing to use the Exploding Heart Release Fist against the Cadres than against Garou.
I didn’t include Psykos or Orochi since they aren’t exactly cadres
@@Professor_Fiction I'd say she's more of a Cadre than Hellfire and Gale, but fair enough.
@@isabelpage5950she's not a cadre. Gyro Gyro can be considered one however Psykos is the true leader of the association.
If they were both in their prime with bang being able to use heart release fist without consequence and both bang and bomb used awakening breath then they could easily beat the cadres
nah, they are already in their prime
They're still losing to ENO badly
noice
Good video
Medaka Kurokami Vs Void guy
Empty Void right???
@@rageikku9398 yes
Love to see more vids coming in ❤
Love these videos
Fun fact:
Funny to me how you thought I’d say something fool!
Also another thing, we still haven't seen Bang go all out
he literally said he'd go all out against garou lmfao
@@dull1831 He didn't, one he wasn't trying to kill him and he refused to use heart release fist
He was pretty much going all out regardless, just not trying to kill him and avoiding to use the Heart Release Fist but his "peak" isn't that far off from what he showed against Garou.
@@Retconned03 fair point
@@Lilian620. That physically won't make a difference, garou was so fast and strong that if bang tried to kill him it would end in the same way, with him collapsing due to grazes and managing to land that one punch
Regarding the death Gatling thing, I’m pretty sure the beam of lights is mostly artistic representation like his skull face, as if it were literally like a solid beam, Death Gatling would have needed like millions of bullets. But even if we grant that, bullets are super slow compared to these top tier characters. Light orbs are fast enough to chase Tatsumaki and hit VFU before he dodges who can react to Darkshine’s full power and intercept awakened Bang. So I think it depends on distance from each other.
Also regarding Gouketsu, people always forget to include the feat of replicating the manga death punch. The same level of power that made Flashy Flash sweat profusely. Suiryu saw Saitama one shot a dragon level monster, and still thought he stood zero chance against Gouketsu. People seriously underestimate the death punch Gouketsu performed. We have never seen Bang punch the air and do something like that and create city sized atmospheric shockwaves. Suiryu also blatantly created light trails with his speed and Goatketsu was invisible in speed to Suiryu.
Suiryu also blocked a light orb which is confirmed to be the same stuff HE use, which dented VFU who matched a full power DS with no damage, yet Suiryu full power punching Gouketsu’s eyes couldn’t make him blink. I think the shock that Genos, Suiryu, and Psychos is understandable. I give it to Gouketsu easily.
Regarding Platinum S, I think pretty much all problems are solved by the fact that PS specialized in speed and GS specialized in power. FF gets cut up by fodder heavenly ninjas who think a sonic booms are impressive and almost died from human Gale pulling the steel wires, while DS is completely immune to steel, and took pretty much zero damage from dragon slayer fist. This means PS was able to be far faster than FF, but he could not one shot FF which is why he asked Garou for help. PS is a superior combination of the cells, but he said to FF that like DS, when outclassed by someone in their specialty, they protect their pride. Key word specialty, as FF specializes in speed and DS in power. I give it to PS easily
BS also wins, as Bang said he was getting overwhelmed by the clones, while Darkshine is a perfect matchup against BS. No way Bang and Bomb old man stamina can kill all tens of trillions of them. It’s will take a while, but they can chip away at Bang and Bomb as they can break apart Genos who was more durable then Gums bite force
The light orb suiryu blocked is just has the same property as the ones HE used, it doesn’t mean they have the same power, 1 ton of tnt has the same property as 10 tons of tnt, but the latter is massively stronger
@@dimensionvisitor7689 sure, but the explosion of Chozes was way bigger then the ones Homless Emperor used on VFU, so you are only proving my point further
@@renocicchi7346 big boom ≠ stronger, the fact that suiryu can block it without getting injured actually proves that choze's blast is significantly weaker than HE's. as suiryu is weaker than early human garou
@@dimensionvisitor7689 I hate using this word, but this is pure Cope. how is that proven. It’s literally stated they are the same attack. You just really want to downplay Suiryu. He was literally creating light trails with his speed, he is heavily underrated. Luckily people in Japan understand Suiryu and Chozes level placing them at dragon level, I don’t really care if you disagree with me
@@renocicchi7346 if anything, "It’s literally stated they are the same attack" this is pure cope, all it was stated is that they are the same thing, which means they are made of the same kind of energy, strength is never part of the statement, again TNT and TNT are the same thing, but 1 ton and 10 tons makes a difference. like all nuclear based attacks shares the property of being made of nuclear energy, but it doesn't mean they are all the same strength. take cosmic garou's nuclear fission fist as an example, it has the same property as a normal nuke, does this mean it's only as strong as an average nuke? this is essentially what you are arguing, which is blatantly re-tard-ed. it also doesn't help your argument when it was later CONFIRMED AND SHOWN that these light orbs ranges in power drastically, the ones on the stronger sides were capable of damaging vomit ugly (who took a double bazooka from dark shine without taking damage) while weaker ones are unable to overpower people like spring mustache and iaian
"Luckily people in Japan understand Suiryu and Chozes level placing them at dragon level" this just means they are really bad at powerscaling. suiryu and choze's best feats at literally just being a one shot tier above average a class heroes, which only puts them concretely above DSK, which is fodder even in just demon level (this is also someone pre G4 genos folds). and dehydrated, sick, poisoned, heavily injured early human garou has better feats than both of them, yet this garou after fully recovers and gets a massive zenkai boost, still struggles with high demon levels and was stated to be nowhere near dragon level after getting another zenkai boost. if it's not because murata actually state suiryu, G4 genos and metal bat fight garou are all relative, he'd be way lower on the tier. Choze was also specifically stated to be not dragon level in canon material, so I don’t know what are those “Japanese people” smoking when they said choze and suiryu are dragon level
1 minute and 7 views bro failed man:/
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why would most people ignore that gauro in his fight with bang was using awakened breath which draws out full power/potential from body .
which means only difference between awake and sleep gauro was that of martial arts
Garou himself said hes a better fighter when hes awake against Darkshine
@@effortless4588 he is better fighter only because of martial arts
in fight with bang he used awakened breath which is said tot draw out max power out of a body .
ys awake gauro was better fighter then sleep gauro but that was mostly due to more refined martial arts
@@shubhamdhull2060
The feats imply he was indeed stronger once he woke up. As to move way faster and Speed Blitz the cadres.
@@mikeym.4724 it goes against lore of series
it was just that he was up against opponents that are speedstres
rather then fast hand to hand
they were moving in fast linear speeds
@@shubhamdhull2060
Not really.
Garou was evolving at all times and went under mayor power ups after fighting each enemy. And he removed His limiter
Who are you to say he didnt just got Stronger after fighting Bang?
Bang by your logic pushed him to the limit. And Again he clearly wasn't as powerful as when he was Sleeping.
Literally who would fight better while sleeping?
Orochis speed is underrated imo,he should be far faster than psykos,who could kinda blitz flashy flash.
Hes the monster king for a reason
He doesn't have the speed feats. Originally he was able to evade a normal Punch from Saitama. But since that was retconned, he just doesn't have anything to say he'd be as fast.
Plus Flashy proved to be much faster when going at full power. Is not like he Is always at 100%
@@mikeym.4724 Doesn't need any,he has statements of upscaling from psykos.
He doesn't need to be full power,he got perception blitzed by psykos.
@@amogus1415
By being at full power Flashy Is certainly many times More powerful.
He was fighting on par with Demon level Hellfire and Gale because he was holding back. Had he'd been using More of His Power he would've blitzed them on the spot.
Even when Hellfire and Gale went full power on him with their Dragon forms, Flashy was still able to kill them Both.
Flashy only "struggled" with a demon level Octopus because he didnt use His full power from the Start.
Had Flashy been at 100% Psykos would've never "blitzed" him.
At full power Flashy Flash was able to fight with Platinum and Monster Garou and not being instantly Taken down.
@@mikeym.4724 Those are movement speed feats,psykos blitzed his reaction/perception which is far greater
@@amogus1415
No Bro you are delusional.
Even on real Life everyone can react faster than what they can move.
Flashy even after noticing Garou and Platinum were faster than him, he could still react to them. Which means His reaction Time Is faster than His movement speed when he Is using full power.
I feel like during this entire video you two have been making statements assuming that Bomb can keep up with Bang which is just not true as Bomb has never shown the ability to use the Awakening Breath... The truth is that Bomb becomes irrelevant quite early on xd. From every fight after Vomited Furher Ugly Bomb will just be sidelined... And also the disrespect on Golden S's name in terms of his pure power is insane xd.
Bomb shows feats against monster Garou just like Bang and is stated to be more powerful than Bang as well. He doesn’t need the awakening breath. Golden S also just ain’t that strong
@@Professor_Fiction Bomb was also weakened from giving part of his energy to heal TTM.