The arcs make it feel so much cooler. For example slo-mo type part where it's a long arc to maybe a song drop. I like what yall did in Firestarter also
This is hands down the best Explaination video I ve ever seen. The fact that they made a whole one map just for this is amazing and its really fun to watch.
I Played every single level and literally TOP TIER Level mapping. It was so fun seeing how y’all have gotten so good making maps! I especially enjoyed the twisty arcs in the maps!
@@TheTom-Saunders Even their old maps at least gave literally everyone a starting point. Imagine starting this with no one to tell you what makes a good map. The first ones will always be bad, but that is what makes mapping better and much more fun. This isn't meant to be bad against you Tom, it's just building off your comment. :D
While I am 100% on board with this update, my biggest gripe is that chain links don't give vibrational feedback. That vibration is what connects the player to the music and notes. Without that feedback, chain notes simply feel like regular notes that are more annoying to hit properly.
Thanks for the explanation on Arc notes, i thought i had to stay on the line for them to count, i appreciate it, i'm still trying to finish the last 30 seconds of Magic on Normal and it's destroying me (that sudden speed shift at the end of songs always gets me, awesome update and i hope that we get more Camellia songs from his back catalog as the game goes on, well done Beat Games)
Firestarter Expert+ made fantastic use of them around 1:20 into the song. A section that, without arcs, would have been weird, is so much fun with them
I thought the arc was going to be something where you have to stay in that “lane”, but now hearing that it’s only there to guide you and be friendly and help you, it’s makes me feel better
I still can’t believe how awesome this update was, I kept failing the songs because I kept bouncing to the rhythm and I couldn’t help but dance a little lol. Keep up the good work guys
Wow, these are pretty well thought out actually. They don't seem too restrictive and it's going to be interesting to see how the custom mapping community uses these.
As with everything else you guys create, the clarity, attention to detail, and creative direction of this tutorial is delightfully impressive. Please thank the team(s) there for me.
so you dont need to follow the arc trails but they can be very helpful for the incoming note and which way you would hit them. pretty good if you are planning to do a very dense map and giving a little assistance for the players who cant efficiently sight-read the gameplay.
It's also good for just very fast maps, players due to their reaction will need to basically move from point to point, which if your move from overhead to both arms outstretched can be very awkward. Arcs telegraph the player to brings there arms down in preperation for the horizontal swing.
In other words, they are for new/bad players. Honestly, not really, they are actually great even for me, and I regularly play incredibly difficult maps.
@@Jdogrey1 that's not what I was saying, im fact it's good for people who hit 8 notes/second, being given an arc makes notes less obtuse to hit. Accessibility and comfort doesn't have to come at the cost of difficulty and I don't think it does either.
i had no idea we didnt have to be accurate with arcs. i was so focused on getting the whole arc and staying in line to the point where i kept failing songs. ty for this
I originally thought u had to follow the arch's but after this video, I can use less stamina by bringing the arch down to rest my arms. thank you for this information!
the only *minor* thing i wanna say is i wish the chains had vibration for each link in the chain. i think that would enhance it even further, though this update is already great!
This is extremely informative. I had recently got my female best friend into this game and have always struggled trying to explain scoring mechanics. I had to her to stop playing from the hip on her swings if she wants a higher score and a better workout. This helps visualize the movement she'll need to improve.
Since the arc notes don't increase your score at all, I think there should be an option to turn their visuals off. If they added score that'd be one thing, but since they are just visual they feel like more of a distraction when going for score. I really wish there was a non-combo-breaking bonus for staying on the arc, even if it was just a little.
Can I just take a second to applaud Beat Games ingenuity with the arc notes. They could’ve so easily made the arcs restrictive, allowing a new type of note that can potentially make things much harder, but instead opted to improve the general experience. To me that is absolutely perfect, and paired with the new lighting the maps have a ridiculous amount of atmosphere and beauty in them now which I couldn’t agree with more. Congratulations, you’ve done amazingly on this one!
well, i mean i agree that its a fun cosmetic effect, but they couldve added a modifier like "strict arcs" which means you have to follow the arcs precisely, it would be a cool challenge.
Would be GREAT if this explanation was put into the tutorial IN GAME. I was excited for the FOB pack and I only got frustrated cause I had no idea what was going on
i updated it today not knowing of the new note typea and i was STUNNED. the arcs especially are so fun to play, they really give the songs more oomph. i played until my headset battery ran out, so I'm planning to play more later today 😎
Thank you for making this video so clear and transparent. It answered all my questions, and some I hadn’t thought of yet! I’m excited to try this update
Playing with these new notes have been *really* fun, even after 2 months it still feels crazy cool. Though I think a cool feature would be a modifier named strict arcs where you have to follow the arcs roughly or you lose combo/health drains similar to how going into a wall drains your health and removes your combo
I thought you had to follow the arcs, I am very new to beat saber. And I also didn’t know what chains were or how they worked. Thank you for this explanation!
I don't have any resemblance of a VR set, yet I was invested enough to watch the whole video, and I'm actually excited for the new notes implementation, great work there, I guess?
I was terrified that arcs changed scores so this is good to know. but I am worried with how hard the chains will be when ghost notes are included. Thank you Beat Saber you have grown so much, much love.
I have played the every song in the new pack and I must say that the new ideas you implemented work perfectly. This honestly makes the game so much cooler and you are did such a great job. It is so smooth and slick and I can't wait for more songs to utilize it!
I came late to the vr scene because I couldn't afford it so after a half a year of having my psvr and saving up for some more games I was really excited to get beatsaber since I'd heard so much about it and I am so glad I did. Me and my sister have played with the headset more in the last two weeks than I think we have in the few months we've had it and I'm never looking back, its so much fun. And I'm glad that when I did come in to the game I came in after ost 5 and the first time I tried it with the living tombstones " I want to be a machine " and was pleasantly surprised by the arc notes I just had the biggest smile on my face, the songs on ost 5 are my favourite by far because the arc notes are just endlessly fun. It feels so good to hit them and reach up and down and around following the line that I just can't get enough of it I feel like I'm flying. Best vr game I've ever played and best workout I've gotten in years = ]
I really like your addition of arcs in I want to be a machine (I played expert difficulty). To me, it really makes the song more alive and between notes it gives you some more to focus on. I also think arcs that stop without a note on the end are really good for songs that end on an odd note. Thank you for sticking with this game and adding new mechanics!
If arc notes are just friendly, there has got to be a way to turn them off, or reduce opacity completely. I'm finding they just get in the way on Expert+, making all the elements on screen too distracting
I disagree, it made maps a lot more impactful and colorful. It also helps when you have trouble, like me, on irregular notes that require a high reaction time to hit. I do agree with you on adding a setting to turn them off though
Ok so basically the goal was to make the player more connected to the notes and the beats, and honestly this was a JOB WELL DONE! It fits so well with each ost 5 song and it really makes the player feel connected to the notes with each arc and each beat with chains. So in others words after this update came out, it made beatsaber rise to another level!
Thank you for explaining this, I was worried that I would have to learn all the new things and figure out a different way to play. Thanks for explaining.
I do wish arcs would count as a miss if you strayed too far from them, like for instance moving your saber in the complete opposite direction. That would provide a bit more obvious incentive to follow the flow of the map imo. Either way, they're a really incredible new feature and made maps flow WAY better.
They stated way before the update that the new block type (we didn’t know about arcs till now) that they will not change old songs at all and only add it into new songs
I like how they add a really good challenge to the songs cause when I did one of the vol 5 songs I was confused thanks for telling me there purpose can't wait to see some challenging and creative things with these notes
The team at beatsaber should add these to older songs or have like 1 handed versions and I mean like add a new play option like there’s 1 handed, 360, 90, and no arrows
I wish there could be an option to turn them on for any song or turn them off, imagine playing the DLC songs or older songs with these blocks, that would be insane!
I really love the decision to make arc notes pretty much aesthetic was worried of mappers starting to become too constraining to where the player's movement and creativity is stifled. Knowing that its more of a guide really helps
Not me. Having to Follow a hold, like in synth riders or even ddr, makes the game feel so much better. Beat sabers has needed hold notes for the longest time, and they implied they were adding them with the arcs when it was announced, but it’s nothing of the sort. Hold notes are paths to be followed or else you lose points/combo. The arc system here is just a path that follows you which makes it pointless
Floor blocks and arcs would be pretty cool, stabbing the floor and getting the since of gliding with it just seems neat, cuttable walls also seem like they would be fun and could be a more challenging arc.
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I didnt know arcs were friendly! Thanks for explaining!
Same!
Yeah; I thought that they were strict!
Yo same, thjs help out a ton!😊
I kinda wish they where strict
@@HelixJuice same
The arcs make it feel so much cooler. For example slo-mo type part where it's a long arc to maybe a song drop. I like what yall did in Firestarter also
Firestarters Normal chart is so fun :)
@@James-gj8rn yeah the expert+ is also really fun
@@adamwigley9738 don't think i'll ever be good enough to play Expert modes haha
@@James-gj8rn then please take them to get better, it's quite the experience!
@@popcornhair6584 i'm getting better at Hard difficulty on some song so that's a start :)
This is hands down the best Explaination video I ve ever seen. The fact that they made a whole one map just for this is amazing and its really fun to watch.
i agree this video is awesome
they technically always do this when a new song pack comes out to explain the different lighting events
@@_BLUU_ Tru tho. Btw nice name xD
Yep
Agreed.
I Played every single level and literally TOP TIER Level mapping. It was so fun seeing how y’all have gotten so good making maps! I especially enjoyed the twisty arcs in the maps!
No, no they haven't. Their maps are almost always horrible
@@-NoodleBoy Their old maps yes. Their 2 new OST are great! if you can't see the difference go and get your eyes checked.
@@-NoodleBoy like you could do any better
@@TheTom-Saunders Even their old maps at least gave literally everyone a starting point. Imagine starting this with no one to tell you what makes a good map. The first ones will always be bad, but that is what makes mapping better and much more fun.
This isn't meant to be bad against you Tom, it's just building off your comment. :D
@@Pink_Ruby Appreciate it man 👍
Love that the arcs are friendly. I felt like they were very loose / magnetized to my motion, but this made that crystal clear.
While I am 100% on board with this update, my biggest gripe is that chain links don't give vibrational feedback. That vibration is what connects the player to the music and notes. Without that feedback, chain notes simply feel like regular notes that are more annoying to hit properly.
All for, everyone else needs to see this.
SAAAAAME. That’s why I was so excited for them!
Mmmmmmmmmmsweet sweet vibrstion
Yeah, chains are kind of tough because the lack of vibration makes it uncertain If I even managed to actually hit it or not
They dont have an actual hitsounds either
Thanks for the explanation on Arc notes, i thought i had to stay on the line for them to count, i appreciate it, i'm still trying to finish the last 30 seconds of Magic on Normal and it's destroying me (that sudden speed shift at the end of songs always gets me, awesome update and i hope that we get more Camellia songs from his back catalog as the game goes on, well done Beat Games)
I’m still trying to beat I wanna be a machine on expert plus it’s my favorite song on beat saber
Yeah that one is good
The new Camellia song is now the hardest song in the game.
@@akuma9406 Personally I still find ghost (and some other song in the Camilia pack) harder, maybe it’s because the new one flows better.
If your stuggling on normal im guessing you just got your VR headset a day or two ago?
I think the arcs are going to be very helpful in guiding toward the next note that might be strange - it’ll cause good muscle memory
Firestarter Expert+ made fantastic use of them around 1:20 into the song. A section that, without arcs, would have been weird, is so much fun with them
I thought the arc was going to be something where you have to stay in that “lane”, but now hearing that it’s only there to guide you and be friendly and help you, it’s makes me feel better
I still can’t believe how awesome this update was, I kept failing the songs because I kept bouncing to the rhythm and I couldn’t help but dance a little lol. Keep up the good work guys
Same I was smiling the whole time 😁
Wow, these are pretty well thought out actually. They don't seem too restrictive and it's going to be interesting to see how the custom mapping community uses these.
Not too excessive hopefullyy
But yes indeed
Yeah I would not have thought of designing the score this way
I hope people delve into making serene experiences with the arcs. They're so fun to glide through
The arcs are phenomenal, they feel like they were always supposed to be there. That make everything feel more badass and flows the songs better
the arcs in i wanna be a machine just make the entire song feel more enjoyable, thank you for this great game
the use of the new lights system in this tutorial was great. really showing off the potential for future maps... great job!
Man the backround of that tutorial is fire !!
It is called the Weave background.
As with everything else you guys create, the clarity, attention to detail, and creative direction of this tutorial is delightfully impressive. Please thank the team(s) there for me.
so you dont need to follow the arc trails
but they can be very helpful for the incoming note and which way you would hit them. pretty good if you are planning to do a very dense map
and giving a little assistance for the players who cant efficiently sight-read the gameplay.
It's also good for just very fast maps, players due to their reaction will need to basically move from point to point, which if your move from overhead to both arms outstretched can be very awkward. Arcs telegraph the player to brings there arms down in preperation for the horizontal swing.
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In other words, they are for new/bad players. Honestly, not really, they are actually great even for me, and I regularly play incredibly difficult maps.
@@Jdogrey1 that's not what I was saying, im fact it's good for people who hit 8 notes/second, being given an arc makes notes less obtuse to hit. Accessibility and comfort doesn't have to come at the cost of difficulty and I don't think it does either.
@@AuroraStarstorm yeah. Exactly.
Why is this video just so satisfying to watch… I’ve watched this like 7 times now
I love how the lighting interacts with the tutorial
When they explained how the accuracy works .. i really liked the detail where only one spot light replicated the saber's motion
I love those details!
I thought that was so cool too! I like how they incorporated all the new features of the update.
@@HarryPorpise haven't tried it yet but i will at the right time
For maximum excitement XD
Ok but no one is going to talk about how clean this map goes with this tutorial
thanks this cleared up some confusion I had also I like this guy! I also like how they addressed the modding community by talking about “mappers”
This opens so many doors for songs which don't have fast drums, but instead have long chords.
Love the new stuff!
The arcs feel so fluent and make the game so much funner and give the long notes a way more normal feel than just hitting a box and waiting
The arcs on Firestarter on Expert+ are so cool and I wanna see more of that in other songs.
Can we just all appreciate the PERFECT TIMING of the tutorial explanation showcasing all the new blocks, scoring, examples, and arcs?
Ikr this explanation video is great
i had no idea we didnt have to be accurate with arcs. i was so focused on getting the whole arc and staying in line to the point where i kept failing songs. ty for this
I originally thought u had to follow the arch's but after this video, I can use less stamina by bringing the arch down to rest my arms. thank you for this information!
the only *minor* thing i wanna say is i wish the chains had vibration for each link in the chain. i think that would enhance it even further, though this update is already great!
This is extremely informative. I had recently got my female best friend into this game and have always struggled trying to explain scoring mechanics. I had to her to stop playing from the hip on her swings if she wants a higher score and a better workout. This helps visualize the movement she'll need to improve.
Coming back to beat saber after a long hiatus, I'm absolutely loving the new arc notes. They works so well for songs with drops or time/tempo warps!
I love it question when is the costom saber come out
Since the arc notes don't increase your score at all, I think there should be an option to turn their visuals off. If they added score that'd be one thing, but since they are just visual they feel like more of a distraction when going for score. I really wish there was a non-combo-breaking bonus for staying on the arc, even if it was just a little.
Can I just take a second to applaud Beat Games ingenuity with the arc notes.
They could’ve so easily made the arcs restrictive, allowing a new type of note that can potentially make things much harder, but instead opted to improve the general experience. To me that is absolutely perfect, and paired with the new lighting the maps have a ridiculous amount of atmosphere and beauty in them now which I couldn’t agree with more.
Congratulations, you’ve done amazingly on this one!
well, i mean i agree that its a fun cosmetic effect, but they couldve added a modifier like "strict arcs" which means you have to follow the arcs precisely, it would be a cool challenge.
The development in the past year of Beat Saber is brilliant! So much has changed and the experience just keeps getting better and better.
the arcs were so intimidating! glad they’re friendly :D
Would be GREAT if this explanation was put into the tutorial IN GAME. I was excited for the FOB pack and I only got frustrated cause I had no idea what was going on
Ohhh. Thank you for the arc explanation. I was under the impression that we HAD to follow it as close as possible!
Really well explained. I was sceptical but it seems like arcs will be a great feature.
Beat saber has the most smoothest gameplay ever 🎉
The secret coolest part about this vid is how good the usage of lighting is
i updated it today not knowing of the new note typea and i was STUNNED. the arcs especially are so fun to play, they really give the songs more oomph. i played until my headset battery ran out, so I'm planning to play more later today 😎
Thank you for making this video so clear and transparent. It answered all my questions, and some I hadn’t thought of yet! I’m excited to try this update
I do think the arcs are a ton of fun. They're really satisfying for most songs they're in! I think that was a great choice
When I hear "arcs", I think Arcaea arcs, so this explanation really helped me understand them better
Thank you for this! I did not know what the arcs were for bc I noticed they did not give you any points or energy!
Playing with these new notes have been *really* fun, even after 2 months it still feels crazy cool. Though I think a cool feature would be a modifier named strict arcs where you have to follow the arcs roughly or you lose combo/health drains similar to how going into a wall drains your health and removes your combo
I thought you had to follow the arcs, I am very new to beat saber. And I also didn’t know what chains were or how they worked. Thank you for this explanation!
I don't have any resemblance of a VR set, yet I was invested enough to watch the whole video, and I'm actually excited for the new notes implementation, great work there, I guess?
I was terrified that arcs changed scores so this is good to know. but I am worried with how hard the chains will be when ghost notes are included. Thank you Beat Saber you have grown so much, much love.
What an incredible update for the game, love this!
The new arcs are really fun, they make me feel like I'm raving
I have played the every song in the new pack and I must say that the new ideas you implemented work perfectly. This honestly makes the game so much cooler and you are did such a great job. It is so smooth and slick and I can't wait for more songs to utilize it!
I came late to the vr scene because I couldn't afford it so after a half a year of having my psvr and saving up for some more games I was really excited to get beatsaber since I'd heard so much about it and I am so glad I did. Me and my sister have played with the headset more in the last two weeks than I think we have in the few months we've had it and I'm never looking back, its so much fun. And I'm glad that when I did come in to the game I came in after ost 5 and the first time I tried it with the living tombstones " I want to be a machine " and was pleasantly surprised by the arc notes I just had the biggest smile on my face, the songs on ost 5 are my favourite by far because the arc notes are just endlessly fun. It feels so good to hit them and reach up and down and around following the line that I just can't get enough of it I feel like I'm flying. Best vr game I've ever played and best workout I've gotten in years = ]
Also boss chan is nuts and I love it
this is great! ive always disliked how thhe "chains" made of big blocks just take up the whole screen. this will make it look so much smoother.
This video was actually really helpful, I was a bit confused before
I really like your addition of arcs in I want to be a machine (I played expert difficulty). To me, it really makes the song more alive and between notes it gives you some more to focus on. I also think arcs that stop without a note on the end are really good for songs that end on an odd note. Thank you for sticking with this game and adding new mechanics!
This update seems so simple but very complex and detailed, I love it!
Beat saber developers will never stop being amazing and understanding developers.
Great work, loving the new dynamics
thats sick, the posiblities for map creation has been expanded and im excited to see what can be done
This was really nice. I couldn't figure out how the Arcs worked, but this helps a ton!
The update in general is really well made. Good work.
Fire starter is definitely the best song in the pack, I had a lot of fun playing it
Very informative. I kept missing these chain notes, now I see why.
If arc notes are just friendly, there has got to be a way to turn them off, or reduce opacity completely. I'm finding they just get in the way on Expert+, making all the elements on screen too distracting
I disagree, it made maps a lot more impactful and colorful. It also helps when you have trouble, like me, on irregular notes that require a high reaction time to hit. I do agree with you on adding a setting to turn them off though
exactly!!! there are points where the arcs are used in really chaotic parts in a song that makes it super distracting
Yeah they should probably give an option too for expert+ personally I don't mind them and like them alot, I see where you're coming from
An opacity slider would be nice yeah, the arcs got in the way of trying to sightread the new maps.
If you turned them off completely it would affect scoring, remember notes after and before arcs get a different scoring method
I’m excited to try it out whenever I get a virtual reality headset!
I love this new update it's the best one yet! Can't wait for more songs to come out with these new notes in them.
I like the arc and chain scoring that's gonna change everything about scoring now
Ok so basically the goal was to make the player more connected to the notes and the beats, and honestly this was a JOB WELL DONE! It fits so well with each ost 5 song and it really makes the player feel connected to the notes with each arc and each beat with chains.
So in others words after this update came out, it made beatsaber rise to another level!
The end part really shows how cool new maps are gonna look like
Amazing demonstration, seriously great job!
And good to know that arcs are friendly, this way allows for more fun and feeling of the music!
Been busy at work but I can't wait to try out the new update, the new stuff looks like it can reeeaaallyyy get a player immersed into a song!
The lights in the background are awesome.
I love the new update, can't wait to see future songs using this
I love the arcs alot
Thank you for explaining this, I was worried that I would have to learn all the new things and figure out a different way to play. Thanks for explaining.
I do wish arcs would count as a miss if you strayed too far from them, like for instance moving your saber in the complete opposite direction. That would provide a bit more obvious incentive to follow the flow of the map imo. Either way, they're a really incredible new feature and made maps flow WAY better.
Eer, noo plz
And you secretly want Fracture Ray from Arcaea in beat saber, right?
Please remap old songs with these new features. They're too much fun. I freaking love arcs
The fact this map is perfectly made for the tutorial, jesus christ you devs never ceases to amaze me.
I am LOVING these new features!
Freeaking awesome!
i love it how game developers explain game mechanics (making tutorials on how things work)
This is defenetly going to open so many oppertunities for new maps and mapping styles!
job well done once again if you ask me!
You guys made a new sabers teaser right? I thought they would be out by now. Can you give me some info on when they will be out in Beat Saber? Thanks.
god i love the new block types, and the music... oh the music is just perfect!
THAANNK YOUUUU
I WAS SO CONFUSED BUT THEN I FOUND BEAT SABER'S CHANNEL IN MY RECOMMENDATIONS
I needed this tutorial, I was worried about tracking the arc when playing which messed me up on all the songs on OSTV
This update increases game feel in such an awesome way! Thank you!
Will previous official songs be updated to take advantage of the new note types?
Nope! Only the new maps
I hope not.
They stated way before the update that the new block type (we didn’t know about arcs till now) that they will not change old songs at all and only add it into new songs
@@vedawair Thank you for the info! I haven't played the game for a few months so I've been out of the loop.
@@Lil.Yahmeaner Np and welcome back to the community lol
While I'm not as bug a fan of the chain notes, the arcs add SO much more when it comes to being part of the music. It just feels so much more natural!
I like how they add a really good challenge to the songs cause when I did one of the vol 5 songs I was confused thanks for telling me there purpose can't wait to see some challenging and creative things with these notes
The team at beatsaber should add these to older songs or have like 1 handed versions and I mean like add a new play option like there’s 1 handed, 360, 90, and no arrows
Ok, so now i know abouy Pre swing, post swong, and accuracy when hitting notes. This definitely helps.
I wish there could be an option to turn them on for any song or turn them off, imagine playing the DLC songs or older songs with these blocks, that would be insane!
It would be cool if they added these to other songs too.
@@JeremyFe
No!!! Not until they let us turn them off so we have a choice.
I really love the decision to make arc notes pretty much aesthetic
was worried of mappers starting to become too constraining to where the player's movement and creativity is stifled.
Knowing that its more of a guide really helps
i'm expecting custom maps with fake out arcs that have nothing to do with where the notes actually are
Not me. Having to Follow a hold, like in synth riders or even ddr, makes the game feel so much better.
Beat sabers has needed hold notes for the longest time, and they implied they were adding them with the arcs when it was announced, but it’s nothing of the sort. Hold notes are paths to be followed or else you lose points/combo. The arc system here is just a path that follows you which makes it pointless
Good explanation and cool additions! Thanks Freeek and Beatsaber devs!
I love these so much! Especially the arcs in Curtains
yo this is the official beat saber, i thought this was some mad modder, this is amazing!!
The mapping is amazing and I love the arc!!!
Arcs are PERFECT for representing sustained notes and the vibration is perfect! What an awesome update! :D
Floor blocks and arcs would be pretty cool, stabbing the floor and getting the since of gliding with it just seems neat, cuttable walls also seem like they would be fun and could be a more challenging arc.