Testing the New Dewalt Against the Best! DCD1007 Vs Flex, Makita, Milwaukee and Bosch!
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Dewalt's Newest Hammer Drill was first leaked a few months ago, but we finally have in the shop and we are ready to Tinker with it. But how will it compare against the best drills on the market?
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Wow. That Flex is a BEAST!
It’s does well. For a first effort it’s really impressive!
Flex is based on competing with Milwaukee in the future flex could possibly surpass Milwaukee in power and popularity as that’s kinda their mission lol
@@killer997s I hear that a lot but tbh Flex is definitely in a league of their own. I've been using Flex since they were released and really excited to see the turnaround they've made in the industry
Look at the ‘Flexy Fan’ bois coming out! 😆 My Local Lowe’s Flex displays are covered in dust, as no one is picking them up and checking them out.
@@georgedavall9449people are missing out! More for me 😄
I'm mostly running Dewalt, with a few M12 tools. My 996 seems to still do the job well, and I believe it performs above specs when combined with 9ah flexvolt - almost the same as 999. I have to say Milwaukee often strikes a really good line between really high power and compact format. I cannot say anything about Flex, as I've never seen anyone use it in Norway. Glad to see Dewalt not simply upgrading stuff, but re-designing.
I’ll have some testing in a few weeks comparing this new drill to other DEWALT drills including the 996. It’s still a capable drill but technology and drill performance have come a long way since its release as well.
Seems like the Power Pack is no slouch, let alone the DCD1007! 💯
It’s a strong combination.
It’s nice having the DCD800 / 805 for 99% of tasks and this in the truck for the heavy hitting.
I agree. The compact XR is capable of doing quite a bit. Dewalt went with a 1-2 approach vs what Milwaukee is doing with one drill that does both roles.
Great test as usual :)
Makita does have an anti kickback, you were one of the first channels to showcase it iirc ;) it also has the most power on dyno but with larger packs as you said ofc. It is a shame that you still didn't get the 4040F pack with tabless cells, it would put it in a closer position to dewalt for sure.
My bad on the anti-kickback. Thanks for correcting. As the battery, it’s annoying to know there are newer tools and batteries and just not have Makita release them. With their recent performance in North America I don’t see it changing any time soon.
@@TinkerWithTools let's hope they will come sooner than later :)
@@TinkerWithTools The 4040F battery has been on sale in Russia for six months and maybe more, and new grinders with a capacity of 2100 watts are also on sale.Strangely, the 4040F was released a year ago. This is the very first battery of such power, and the rest began to make them only now, but you still don't have it.
And there is no word of when we will have it. Bosch also has tabless cells announced in Europe but no word from Bosch North America yet. Hopefully we get both at some point.
@@TinkerWithTools yeah the interesting part is that the gen2 xgt grinder that was released at the same time is already available in the US market but none of the US outlets have tested or mentioned it. There must be some regulatory hurdles with the 4040F but I am not sure.
Can you implement other size bits for concrete? 1/4, 1/2? As you do different size screws
I’ll see what I can do.
@@TinkerWithTools thank you. It's just a suggestion. As I and most people I've known in the industry use impacts for screws and well a hammer drill for drilling holes. And thank you for replying :)
My go to drill is the dcd1007… it’s such a beat and very nice to know that there’s a less likely chance of you damaging your wrist with it… I’ve had it happen to me every now and then with my dcd999 whenever I’m in an awkward position to drill holes ☠️
It’s nice having the peace of mind for those moments when proper bracing might not be possible.
Yeah Carlos, the DCD 998/999 would/ could do that to a person using it. This newer Anti- Rotational tech is a good thing, just wonder how all these electronics will hold up down the road? As ‘Tinker’ said, it is good when it can be turned off, like on the Bosch. You don't have to worry about that on the Metabo HPT 36 Volt, as the RFC feature don't even show up to the party! 😯 🙄
@@georgedavall9449 my dad has had the gen 4 Milwaukee drill and impact for about 2yrs now and it’s they’ve both been abused badly… the anti kickback still works pretty great on the drill… the impact driver however has problems with the LED never shutting off and the collet slot never coming to a complete stop anymore when you let go of the trigger
Would've been nice to see the Metabo DV36DC in the lineup, in addition to that big Hilti since it's the only other one with a gearbox more than two speeds. I'm also very surprised at that 2 9/16" bit result.
There are a lot of drills that could be included but I chose the most requested to keep the video from getting too bloated. There will be more testing coming so I am sure we will get it compared at some point.
Great breakdown. Honest analysis. You have a good formula for your testing. I'm liking your channel, you have a good thing going here.
Thanks!
I can honestly say I’m glad to see Dewalt/ SBD innovate. Which only causes competition which will only help the power tool industry. Because honestly if it weren’t for big Red and Yellow there wouldn’t be much in the way for tools that help the Tradesman, because honestly I can’t stand Makita or Bosch tools I don’t feel they bring value or performance for the price paid. Hopefully Flex will up their game, but I don’t see that when Chevron has posted negative growth and asset loss for three consecutive quarters. Until the other manufacturers can actually put value and performance into their respective tool lines, Milwaukee or Dewalt are honestly the only brands worth getting into if you’re in the trades. Otherwise if you’re a weekend warrior I’d get Ryobi.
Everyone benefits from healthy competition.
I’d like to see how the performance changes on the 1007 with the 1.7 and 5.0 powerstack and the new 8 ah.
I’ll have a video in a few weeks where you will see it.
Power pack or power stack?
I'm already dreaming about Flexes 2nd gen turbo hammer drill 💪💪
I wonder when we will see it. I would imagine it’s already being tested somewhere.
I'm sure with them PROBABLY WINTER RELEASE
Very well done! I’m mostly DeWalt for quite some time in battery and line power tools. I’m very satisfied. I do have a Bish sander and two other small Bish tools. I do have to say that dewalt’s naming of battery type equipment is really confusing. It’s become very difficult to know which tool works best with which battery. Now, they’ve changed it again and it’s more confusing. A number of batteries will work with a tool, but the tool doesn’t benefit from that battery. They go to flat pack as their best battery, and now go back to circular batteries. Yes, I know they’re different, but why? Are they better in power delivery? It’s really confusing. I’ve got a lot of batteries. How would this perform with these?
I think that it has taken a little bit to figure out what the “next” battery format is but for the most part tabless cells seems to be winning out. The pouch cell does seem to be offering a size advantage especially in something like the 1.7ah that DEWALT offers but so far they are the only brand to offer such a compact pouch battery. It’s one of the things that sets them apart honestly. I love that tiny battery.
@@TinkerWithTools it’s great for tools that don’t need a lot of long term power, but 1.7 amps is still that. I use them. I do like the 5 amp version as it lasts longer and has more oomph. But, I’ve accumulated a lot of batteries including Flexvolt for my 60 volt saw. The idea of buy more different cells is crazy.
The flexvolt batteries in my initial testing still perform well and you can continue to use them.
I lump those in the category of premium batteries as well.
@@TinkerWithTools they better be, considering what they cost.
I'd love to know the performance difference between this and the DCD999. Or any of Dewalts other top hammer drills for that matter.
This is really just the newest generation of top hammer drill. Specifically, you have the 996 that was released almost 10 years ago at this point, then the 998/999 generation that came out roughly 4 years ago. That was essentially an internal refresh of the 996 with a power and performance bump. Then his 1007 is the newest generation. It has a new design, is a decent bit shorter and more powerful.
@TinkerWithTools Thanks. Yeah I have the 999 currently. Just thought I'd would be interesting to see the performance increase side by side
I'll have a video out early next week or next weekend that will show how the 1007 compares to previous models.
@@TinkerWithTools oh cool that's awesome. Thanks for the heads up
I’m a plumber and do a lot of new construction….ive got the flex and the dewalt hammer drill what I have noticed is flex is just so fast and will go thru about anything, but where flex fails which is low torque and tougher wood that requires torque that’s where the dewalt begins to shine…..I have nothing bad to say about either but at the moment my go to drill is the dcd1007 I’ve had it for a week and can say it might be a little bulky but it’s like a Cadillac when using feels great in hand and never have to worry about it binding up and snapping your wrist with the anti-rotation and great video!!!
Thanks. I agree about the Cadillac comment. That's a fitting description.
Did you have stacked lithium batteries?
Do you use it with forstners and holesaws? Also curious on drilling with a 5ah powerstack vs 8ah powerpack... 🤙 thanks for any insight
@@jessebotello3617 yes I have the stacked lithium batteries….they are without a doubt some pretty powerful batteries…..I like power stack a little better because they aren’t as bulky, but if you’re looking for nothing but power the stacked lithium is the way to go!!
@@hawaiianbasshead I use it with hole saws ranging from 1-1/2” to 4-1/2….ive got the spyder bit hole saws and it’s definitely got plenty of power for the job and having the 3 speed gearbox definitely gives it that extra bit of kick!!
I just noticed in this video and alot other of your videos that your hand covers the whole body of the drill or impact. Does it heat up alot more quickly or it isn't an issue? I've seen you use gloves in some.
The impact drivers are more prone to heating up than the drills are. The glove are sometimes from removing hot bits or when I remove some of the driven fasteners they get pretty hot.
How does the Metabo HPT DV18DCQ4 stack up against these drills in your experience?
For me the 36v version of that drill is just a small step behind the top performers and probably only to the point of noticing it when comparing to other top drills. And then I found that the 18v is still a step behind the 36v. So it’s not a bad drill but not right at the top of the charts if you will.
@@TinkerWithTools great to hear, thanks for replying
Flexvolt advantage was a bandaid. Basically its like ryobi with the extra tab batteries. Just a stopgap when the battery tech is behind but the flexvolt batteries were all 3p batteries so they could handle the extra current.
Flexvolt will either get tabless and pouch cell batteries or it will die off (likely die off since they already made 60v tools that dont use flexvolt batteries)
Flexvolt isn't going anywhere anytime soon
Are you referring to the power shift stuff?
@@FusionBoost2.0he is smoking something lol. They make lithium powerstacks for our 60v it's game over for everyone. 😂 lol milwaukee don't want that beaf
I already own the dcd998 I don't use it very often but when I need the power it comes in handy. But that said that dcd1007 is already available on Amazon here in Canada.
Unless you are really pushing the 998 my guess is you won’t really notice the difference in the drills but with the decrease in length and the addition of their perform and protect it’s a nice modernization of the drill.
@TinkerWithTools agreed I'll keep my 998. One drill I really want to try is the flex
It’s strong and quick for sure.
Thanks for another great review! The DeWalt drill seems powerful and competes well with the competition. If you could only have one drill for the rest of your life, which one would you choose?
Man that is a tough question. I'll answer it this way... I have alway said that if I were to have to pick a single platform to use, I would end up with Milwaukee... so with that thought, I would probably end up with the M18 Fuel. As much as I like that drill, it's not the one that I would pick if I could only use one though. I really love the Makita XGT and how it works. And If i thought I could get by without the need for a hammer drill and top tier power, my absolute favorite drill and the one that I love the most would be the DCD800 from Dewalt.
If you can't tell, I am not a big fan of picking a single tool for something because I love a lot of the different tools out that and love to see how each company picks and choose what they focus on.
@@TinkerWithToolsSo many great drills out there with different capabilities in different areas. I really enjoy watching your reviews. You provide specifications, testing, and your personal impressions of the overall experience. It helps a lot when you’re trying to evaluate these tools.
Did you ever used the Ingco tools ? how are their real performacne compared to Dewalt ? Are those chinse batteries really hols those amps & volts claimed ?
I haven't even heard of these tools until you mentioned. Based on what I am seeing, my hopes of them being competitive with Dewalt are not high.
@@TinkerWithTools Ingco, Total are from same umbrella. They have large retail network in Asia , Africa & South America, their prices are 1/3rd of Dewalt. Yet claiming as good quality tools, please test their actual reliability if possible. I have ordered Ingco 20v hammer drill, but cancelled it and bought Dewalt. I dont want to compromise on quality. But that cost 16k in India, Ingco is just 5.3k. I hope Dewalt would last long in my hands, I use this mostly for my home tasks & I am not a professional.
If they become more readily available in my area, i'll be sure to add them to my testing list.
great review . these new batteries are changing the game .soon we will be seeing milwaukees new batteries in action . that new dewalt is impressive .
I agree. I was actually looking at what it will cost to pick up both the 8 and the 12ah Milwaukee forge batteries today.
Love how my favourite hammer drill, the Bosch, stacks up against the quality Competition. That Profactor Drill a beast of a drill. I love it. PS. When will you be getting the New Profactor Tabless Batteries, the ProCore 18V Plus Batteries, that has been out since last year? Keep up the excellent work you do, much respect.
That Bosch drill is no slouch. Really strong and while it's big and heavy, it's got really nice balance and ergonomics.
As for the batteries, unless you have a source to purchase them, as far I as know, they have been announced in Europe but not yet in North America. Once they are out, I will likely get one to test.
Good review, why Dv36dc is missing
It's a great drill. I focused on the most requested for now. I've found that the more tools you include in a review, the video can get a bit bloated.
@TinkerWithTools unfortunately metabo hpt is caught in a cycle of being unknown so they're never requested, and never requested so they stay unknown. It sucks because they make good stuff
‘Tinker’ makes a good point, and so does @james2042.
@@james2042 I’m with You James! You are spot on, and I have the 18 and 36 volt drills, but am irritated by the non working RFC feature on my 36 Volt drill! (First Gen)
@james2042 I agree. it's a great drill and I actually have a number of videos featuring both the original 36v drill and the newer 18v and 36v drills, featured both on their own and in comparisons against other drills. I plan on doing more videos with this drill to show how they all feature. I have been "planning" on doing a full hammer drill ranking video at some point... but honestly the scope and effort that goes into something like that is a little daunting. right now the time needed is available to pull it off, but i am hopeful that I can make it happen in the last year or so.
Jesus, that DeWalt with the speedcutter bit was crazy fast lol like drilling with a 3/16 bit 🤣
It was shocking the first time I did it.
Metabo HPT 36 Volt drill? I like the drill, but the RFC seems to be just window dressing on the side of the drill. I have yet to see it actually work? I am referring to the First gen 36 Volt drill.
It's not super present on the 1st Gen but on the newer version (both 18v and 36v) it works as you expect. As for why it wasn't included, at some point I have to cut off the number of tools that are present for several reasons. 1) more testing just takes more time and sometimes that is at a premium as this is a side hustle. 2) the more tools you put into the video the more difficult it is to be concise about the narrative and talking points. 3) lastly, there are seemingly 10+ premium drills that you could include in this video. Metabo HPT, Hilti, Metabo (German), Hercules, etc all have good drills that people want to see in a video. At the end of the day, I went with the drills that were most requested leading up to this.
There will be other testing in the future, but also I will have a Dewalt specific comparison coming out in the coming weeks.
@@TinkerWithTools Oh I get it, and You don't owe me or anyone else an explanation. I remembered You had done tests/ reviews of those Metabo drills. It will be interesting to see how the newer 36 Volt Metabo does, against the DeWalt, although I think we already know the outcome? I cant imagine the Time it takes to put together a video of the caliber and level of yours! Take care my friend!
@@TinkerWithTools I’m kinda thinking it might make for a good video putting the DCD799 up against the new Drill? 🤔😆
Greetings. Can it work with a regular XR 18/20v 5Ah battery?
It does work with a regular 5ah XR battery. On the tool packaging, they reference on that on that battery you can expect 900 UWO vs the drill with new 8ah XR Powerpack battery being rated at 1530 UWO.
Have you tested the Festool TPC 18/4?
I have not. Never been able to get over the sticker shock.
@@TinkerWithTools lol, aint that the truth
@@TinkerWithTools what do you mean by sticker shock?
The fact that it's $615 for the kit. It's a tough pill to swallow.
Flex is amazing!
Id the xgt get a 2nd chance with the 2 9/16?
Each drill here got multiple chances. The Makita wasn’t having it with the harder tests today. Don’t get me wrong it’s a very capable drill and I still wholeheartedly recommend it to people but not if that type of test is your main use case.
‘Tinker With Tools !!! ‘.
You drilled the point Home! 😆👍💪🇺🇸 💯
Thanks George!
every "warrior" are the lastest and the best up to now from the brand , each have the unique point from the brand , they are have the place in the world , nice video ❤
Well said! They are all good drills at this level.
Wooooh! Here we go
Flex & Bosch 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I m a Milwaukee guy but flex are impressive and to be honest any drill here will do the job
Thank so much for share !! Amazing 👊🏻
Glad you liked it!
Tinker With Tools!!!!!! Soz, what about my earlier posted question? DCD805 any noticeable performance gain against the DCD800? And what would be your choice between the two? Inquiring minds … 😊
No there is no performance gain between the 800 and the 805 aside from the fact that the 805 has a hammer function. For me the 805 largely sits in a tough system box while the 800 is always at the ready. It just come down to being lighter weight and more compact.
@@TinkerWithTools Thanks Friend! I ask as Home Depot has a ‘hack’ right now, where I can get the 805 for like $86.00, when the battery and charger are returned. I agree with You on size, and I usually use a rotary hammer drill, unless I’m in a pinch, or small fastener. But as they say, “A Deal is a Deal!” Take care!
Same to you George!
I would prefer if the results were listed by times and not by names. By so doing, the viewer can see at glance which tool, in each category, came out on top or in second or third position. As such, there would be no need to constantly pausing video. Irrespective of the results and I do appreciate the side-by-side comparisons, I will always be a Milwaukee fan.
I appreciate the suggestion. If I am being honest, the reason why they are that way is it's easiest to take the results and enter them that way and keep things straight. I hadn't actually considered putting them that way, so I will have to try it out and see how it does.
Listening to this test is telling me that Dewalt DCD1007 (we say one double O seven) will last the longest taking this abuse.
I carry a hammer drill and impact on my belt, up ladders all day. NOTHING has a better power to weight/size ratio than a Milwaukee with a HO 3.0 battery.
The compact XR doesn't reach quite as high in terms of power as the M18 Fuel but in terms of power to weight ratio, the DCD800 with a 1.7ah power stack is a good combination as well.
Watts and Torque are not the same thing and should not be put on the same graph. The only way to know the torque of the DeWalt is if we know at what RPM the power rating was read from. Even that would be unfair, as we don't know how the other tools got their torque ratings. The graph ultimately isn't useful.
I get what you were saying. The question marks were meant to infer that it was unknown for DEWALT. Just listed the UWO to help explain
Nice work!
Thanks!
I wish you could send me one of your drills. I always wanted to have DeWalt DCD996P2 XR 20V Max Cordless 3 Speed Hammer Drill
Like a i see : flex is cheap an superior on every material and size, . I like to see tabless batery on bosch and makita
Several people have mentioned the battery choice for Bosch and Makita. The tabless batteries for both brands are not readily available where I live currently but when they are, I plan on reviewing them.
that makita has kick back stop they just don't advertise it and in manual is called AFT
You are correct. I have mentioned in previous videos but forgot about it
@@TinkerWithTools the only difference i think is that makita when u try activating the aft just to test it in mid air stops the motor but the head is still spinning compared to bosh milwuakee i guess new dewalt which are all stopping the head rotation as well. but in real use situation this won't be a problem with makita because the motor is decoupled and that extra rotation is not affecting the rotation of the tool i guess i am not sure cuz it never happened in real situation to kick in to me. if it did to u i would like to know if that extra rotation of the head after the power cut off is also translated to the tool
Dewalt was, is and will always be the best.
great video,,, WOW really amazing
Thanks!
Wheres the Metabo HPT 36V
I will have testing on it with a comparison to this drill eventually. For the first comparison I focused requested drills to start.
Dewalt looks a bit like 90s design IMHO
Luckily it doesn't have 90's performance to go along with it.
makita with 8ah battery is beast❤❤❤
Now, do that again but start with full charged batteries and attempt all test see who makes better batteries
The batteries were fully charged upon starting the test. At the of the testing each battery was still showing full bars largely because we are dealing with mostly larger capacity batteries here.
Самая мощная и эффективная дрель это макита,она полностью раскрывает свой потенциал с акб на 8ам и выдает самую большую мощность в 1900вт остальные будут курить бамбук,если случится так и нужно будет работать с очень большой нагрузкой и длительное время макита будет на первом месте остальные все загнутся от постоянной и долгой нагрузкой,а на этой 4ам акб,что Вы сделали этот обзор ,эиа самая дохлая акб и она не может раскрыть весь потенциал этого превосходного инструмента,если у Вас нет высокоэффективных акб,то не стоит пренижать макиту в таких тестах,все должно быть по справедливому,а так это неуважение к бренду!!!
Do you enjoy running a 4 pound plus battery on your tool? I am asking in all seriousness because I get that it will improve performance but I have to imagine that having an anchor or the bottom of the drill is going to mess with the balance.
Milwaukee is so focused on cutting the size and weight of their new release. They need to double the performance instead
Each company is going to focus on something different. The Gen 4 Milwaukee is roughly the size of Dewalt’s compact XR Hammer drill but it has competitive power and features with their full size drill. I am curious to see what their drills and impact drivers will do with their new motor technology that they announced at pipeline this year.
@@TinkerWithTools i saw the new m12 stubby wrench at the pipeline, they doubled the number instead of reducing the size.. it supposed to be like that. we dont want smaller drill and driver anymore... we want power
What are you talking about its one of the strongest on the market and smallest
@@theone-ou3gd #4 strongest to be exact. Milwaukee already have the compact and subcompact category and yet they are making their top performing drill and driver more compact so it doesn't make sense.. that is why dewalt guys are sh!tting on milwaukee fanboys right now
@@jaival_rhaine you dont make sense the compact milwaukee is stronger too go cry some more. You said they were going for size when there stronger as well get over it clown
I started twitching when i saw the length chart. Looks like you cheated and just changed the labels from the weight chart. Makes me question what else you phoned in.
It’s possible that i forgot to change that part. I do take one chart and modify it to make the next. I’ll look at it but in terms of length Milwaukee is the shortest followed by Makita, Flex, Dewalt and Bosch.
PULL THAT DEWALT OUT OF YOUR BACKSIDE !
AFFILIATE ?
OKAY !
OF COURSE YOU ARE GOING TO HYPE THE DEWALT.
NO BIAS HERE PEOPLE !
If you use the links in the video to purchase the tools (not just the dewalt), I receive a small percent as income, but if you would rather go directly to the site of your choosing to purchase, you are certainly able to do that as well.
wow! that Dewalt drill looks bloated.
The camera adds a few pounds??? Kidding of course it is a thick drill.
the test is not very objective. 2000 watt batteries were only used Dewalt DCD1007 Flex Turbo Milwaukee Fuel .the remaining batteries had a power of 1400 watts Bosch Makita XGT.
Each drill was tested with the best battery that I own. While Bosch and Makita both have better batteries as I mentioned in the video, they are sold yet in my market (the BL4040F for Makita or the new Pro Core + for Bosch).
@@TinkerWithTools I understand, but you have been selling 5A and 8A batteries for a long time.And you didn't use the new high-power batteries on all the drills.makita and Bosch were in a losing position. The new devolt and Milwaukee drills appeared later than Makita and then new batteries that are one and a half times more powerful...the funny thing is that Makita has been producing such batteries for the second year and you couldn't buy them)) .You could take a 5A battery from a Makita, it also gives out the same power if you can't buy a new powerful 4A accumulator .It is necessary to perform the test on equal terms.I'm not saying to use an 8A battery)).Makita claims that her new 4A battery, with the same size and weight, produces one and a half times more power.I would like to see if it makes sense to buy it for a drill or if there will be no gain from it.Makita claims that the new battery performs well when cutting wood and metal, as well as drilling concrete with a large sds punch+
You are right that the 5ah battery is available and I am sure it would improve the performance of the drill. I would love to have every battery from every brand to be able to offer all the different combinations that you might encounter, but as a smaller RUclips channel, there is only so much budget to go around. I'll always attempt to give a tool its best chance at success within the constraints I have. Making a perfect apples to apples comparison across several brands will always be a challenge.
The 5amp makita battery has the same output as the tabless 4amp you can't get in the US believe me it is a different drill with the 5 or 8 in it
Why persist in showing concrete these are not concrete drills get SDS and most of these are a waste of time. GET SOME TEST THAT SHOW TRUE VALIES.
While they aren't as heavy duty as a dedicated SDS, they are in fact intended to be used with concrete masonry. This one is rated for up to a 1/2" masonry bit. If you are doing a lot of holes, i wholeheartedly agree with you but if you are just trying to do the occasional drilling in concrete or masonry, I would say these would be suited just fine for it.
Horrible drill the new DeWalt
What about it is horrible for you?