I think you're right...I found that is how I managed to keep them in place. It's still a bit floppy, but has not bothered me after a couple years of use. Thanks for watching!
I have a ton of Keith titanium cookware and have yet to see one with bad handles. To ME they are top notch, well designed products. The canteen set is my favorite!
After quite a bit of field use, I overall think this is a great set. I definitely had floppy handles...as you could see, but overall it's a great set and is perfectly fine for normal use.
Thanks for the video, I have a Toaks 750ml Titanium (grade1 or 2) and I reallise that I make a good choise. The handels don't move and I have measuring mark on it. At a cheap price 30 dollars. I think that it's a high quality product from china.
The more I've used these pots, the more I like them...they've actually been pretty solid after over a year on the trail...not as nice as Toaks or some other brands, but they do the job and rather well. Thanks for watching!
@@outerlimitless I want to thank you for the video, you do it so honestly ! There is a lot of brand and each one have + and - . At the end it just a question of preferences.
Great...thanks for looking into that! Yeah, kinda flimsy for an otherwise decent pot. These things are like $80ish. Shouldn't have flompy handles! Thanks for writing!
I feel for you brotha, for a $90 price tag it should be much better. The sad thing is that there are three different names for these titanium pot sets, Keith being the main one. Health pro is one of them, its the exact same set for only $40. Alot of people push the Keith brand. They are just cheap. look up Health pro next time your in the market for titanium cookware, that way you won't pay the price for say, a Toaks or sno peak. Good review, have a good one.
I was always wondering about that Health pro set. Almost bought one once, but ended up with the Keith. I'd be interested in still getting the Health Pro to do a side by side. I'll do some research...maybe that would make for an interesting video. What is the third brand, do you know off hand?
I just bought an identical set, branded, 'FinessCity.' 47 GBP in the UK. No wobbly handles on mine. I'm certain that all these are made in the same factory in China and just branded with various names. I'm very pleased/impressed with the quality of the item I bought. Same market site had the 'Keith' version on offer for 57 GPB.
I was wondering if that was the case...do you know if most of the titanium products are manufactured there...I guess I never really compared the other brands.
The major difference in these titanium sets is the quality of construction and the grade of titanium used. Snow Peak and Evernew are expensive because they used grade 1 pure titanium. Vargo uses grade 2. All these other cheap chinese manufacturers like Keith, Health Pro, and any off brand use at least a grade 4 if not worse. Toaks I will never buy because they use grade 5 which has a bit of aluminum in it, it's an alloy and not pure titanium. Be careful what you pay for.
Wow...never knew that...very interesting. I thought Toaks was nice...although I don't really own any Toaks, so that was just my impression. Vargo has been solid for me.
Guri Zeigerman or yeah I bet,I actually spoke to the head office in America today and they said they use grade 1 now 😊😍 I love all my toaks stuff that’s why I rang them 😊👍🏻❤️
I have used these rather regularly and they have held up for the most part. I use them with a burner and not over the fire...but yes, I believe over a fire it would be kinda rough.
So don't put them in the flame... put the pot on coals and the handles upwind... even if the silicon coating melted off - so what? Use them without the coating, no big deal. That's a rather shallow excuse not to purchase since most other cook sets have similar handle coatings.
I get what you're saying...I generally don't need measurements, but I can see why some people would want it. Water treatment, making food mainly. But to your point, it doesn't bother me with or without graduations.
I can't speak for everyone, but if you prepare your own food, say dehydrated foods, and you don't want to put too much water in your pot then the gradations help you judge the amounts correctly. Of course over time one can get by with an eyeball judgement but it helps to save resources by being just that little bit more sure.... Also if you bake while on the trail then knowing how much liquid is involved is handy.
Yes, I realize I mis-spoke and said aluminum. I realized I did that after I posted the video. But, ok...did you not see the title was "A First Look and Initial Impressions"?? That comes before it's used...so I don't understand your comment. And why do you care?
YA! how dare you make a mistake! im so sick of human beings making mistakes, only god himself should make videos from here on out! lol 😋. I thought it was a pretty good video personally, thank you for taking the time to make it :) Also, have you used them since and or had any more issues with the them? -mike
Dude...I didn't buy them...so I have no bias towards price...and I don't go into any situation "expecting" anything. It is my job to evaluate a product. It is my job to point out the good or the bad. It is my job to give my impression and let people know what I find, how things work for me and make suggestions to my viewers. If I get an impression that can be justified one way or another based on the price of a product, or related to another comparable product, I will do so. It is my job to point out quality and features in a way that people can relate to it and based on my experience with similar products. So, I guess I don't understand who you are directing your comment to?
However, I have used these quite extensively at this point and they have performed quite well. Apart from the handles, they have been an excellent set.
Thanks on the Keith Ti Cookware and I just got my 1st Ti-Camping Cookware the TOAKS Titanium 1600ml Pot with Pan
You can push the handles into each other so they cross and stick together, thats the idea behind them.
I think you're right...I found that is how I managed to keep them in place. It's still a bit floppy, but has not bothered me after a couple years of use. Thanks for watching!
That 1 liter pot you compared is a stainless set. Aluminum is lighter that titanium. Just softer and less durable.
I have a ton of Keith titanium cookware and have yet to see one with bad handles. To ME they are top notch, well designed products. The canteen set is my favorite!
After quite a bit of field use, I overall think this is a great set. I definitely had floppy handles...as you could see, but overall it's a great set and is perfectly fine for normal use.
I think you meant to say stainless steel not aluminum
Yes, absolutely, you're right...my bad!!
Thanks for the video, I have a Toaks 750ml Titanium (grade1 or 2) and I reallise that I make a good choise. The handels don't move and I have measuring mark on it. At a cheap price 30 dollars. I think that it's a high quality product from china.
The more I've used these pots, the more I like them...they've actually been pretty solid after over a year on the trail...not as nice as Toaks or some other brands, but they do the job and rather well. Thanks for watching!
@@outerlimitless I want to thank you for the video, you do it so honestly ! There is a lot of brand and each one have + and - . At the end it just a question of preferences.
You didn’t count the 400 over the 1,2 when you did the weight so 1,6 total was more less than 1 from the aluminium however a good good video
i have the snowpeak, i think i will stick with that, handles fit better, and for me i like to have the ounce and liter markings on the pot.........
Yes, I was curious about the other brands...I'll have to get a snowpeak for a comparison video.
Yup, my Snowpeak Ti gear doesn't have jiggly and misaligned handles to THAT degree, definitely suspect..
Great...thanks for looking into that! Yeah, kinda flimsy for an otherwise decent pot. These things are like $80ish. Shouldn't have flompy handles! Thanks for writing!
Great review of a nice pot system. Price point?
Right about $80 on Gearbest
do they habe LEAD in them habe you tested it for LEAD.
I haven't tested them for Lead, but they are light enough that I would be surprised if they have lead.
I feel for you brotha, for a $90 price tag it should be much better. The sad thing is that there are three different names for these titanium pot sets, Keith being the main one. Health pro is one of them, its the exact same set for only $40. Alot of people push the Keith brand. They are just cheap. look up Health pro next time your in the market for titanium cookware, that way you won't pay the price for say, a Toaks or sno peak. Good review, have a good one.
I was always wondering about that Health pro set. Almost bought one once, but ended up with the Keith. I'd be interested in still getting the Health Pro to do a side by side. I'll do some research...maybe that would make for an interesting video. What is the third brand, do you know off hand?
I just bought an identical set, branded, 'FinessCity.' 47 GBP in the UK. No wobbly handles on mine. I'm certain that all these are made in the same factory in China and just branded with various names. I'm very pleased/impressed with the quality of the item I bought. Same market site had the 'Keith' version on offer for 57 GPB.
China also happens to be the country with the largest deposits of titanium ore and production. So it would make reasonable sense to manufacture there.
I was wondering if that was the case...do you know if most of the titanium products are manufactured there...I guess I never really compared the other brands.
Keto Bushcraft -- Maybe so on Earth, but the Moon contains a much higher percentage of Ti, or so I've heard.
Very Informative again.
With jiggly handles you won't need Bear Bells 👍🏼 :)
HAha! Good point! What do you think? Am I overly sensitive to that, or is it a valid complaint?
I definitely look at the build quality on handles. A valid complaint in my opinion.
The major difference in these titanium sets is the quality of construction and the grade of titanium used. Snow Peak and Evernew are expensive because they used grade 1 pure titanium. Vargo uses grade 2. All these other cheap chinese manufacturers like Keith, Health Pro, and any off brand use at least a grade 4 if not worse. Toaks I will never buy because they use grade 5 which has a bit of aluminum in it, it's an alloy and not pure titanium. Be careful what you pay for.
Wow...never knew that...very interesting. I thought Toaks was nice...although I don't really own any Toaks, so that was just my impression. Vargo has been solid for me.
outer limitless toaks is Grade 2 ti 👍😊❤️✅
You are correct. It is now. But in the early days of Toaks, it was not.
Guri Zeigerman or yeah I bet,I actually spoke to the head office in America today and they said they use grade 1 now 😊😍 I love all my toaks stuff that’s why I rang them 😊👍🏻❤️
there is literally zero justification to pay more for grade 1 in terms of cooking gear
Good review. Will definitely avoid this set. Does not look like the coating on those handle will hold up to fire. Would melt and get very gross.
I have used these rather regularly and they have held up for the most part. I use them with a burner and not over the fire...but yes, I believe over a fire it would be kinda rough.
@@outerlimitless Thank you for the reply. So good to see a real honest review.
So don't put them in the flame... put the pot on coals and the handles upwind... even if the silicon coating melted off - so what? Use them without the coating, no big deal. That's a rather shallow excuse not to purchase since most other cook sets have similar handle coatings.
Why are measurements so important to everyone?......just a thought. I have never "measured" specifically any amount of water....
I get what you're saying...I generally don't need measurements, but I can see why some people would want it. Water treatment, making food mainly. But to your point, it doesn't bother me with or without graduations.
I can't speak for everyone, but if you prepare your own food, say dehydrated foods, and you don't want to put too much water in your pot then the gradations help you judge the amounts correctly. Of course over time one can get by with an eyeball judgement but it helps to save resources by being just that little bit more sure....
Also if you bake while on the trail then knowing how much liquid is involved is handy.
i dont beleibe its titanium bcos titanium is as SHINY AS STAINLESS STEEL
They are definitely WAYYY stronger than stainless...my stainless pots are all dented and squashed in funny oval shapes. These are still mint...
Ok, sorry. Please don't do anymore reviews of products you haven't even used. And the aluminium pot-- looks like SS to me, but what do I know.
Yes, I realize I mis-spoke and said aluminum. I realized I did that after I posted the video. But, ok...did you not see the title was "A First Look and Initial Impressions"?? That comes before it's used...so I don't understand your comment. And why do you care?
outer limitless -- Why do I care? I care because I wanted to see a proper review of this cook set. This is not that. "Aluminium", btw.
YA! how dare you make a mistake! im so sick of human beings making mistakes, only god himself should make videos from here on out! lol 😋. I thought it was a pretty good video personally, thank you for taking the time to make it :)
Also, have you used them since and or had any more issues with the them?
-mike
Actually, "aluminum" is correct in the US and Canada. "Aluminium" is correct in Europe.
Dude...$45.... What do you expect? Want better quality? Spend more money...
Dude...I didn't buy them...so I have no bias towards price...and I don't go into any situation "expecting" anything. It is my job to evaluate a product. It is my job to point out the good or the bad. It is my job to give my impression and let people know what I find, how things work for me and make suggestions to my viewers. If I get an impression that can be justified one way or another based on the price of a product, or related to another comparable product, I will do so. It is my job to point out quality and features in a way that people can relate to it and based on my experience with similar products.
So, I guess I don't understand who you are directing your comment to?
However, I have used these quite extensively at this point and they have performed quite well. Apart from the handles, they have been an excellent set.
Dude... $45.... is a lot of money...