The handles are formed into a kind of "letter C" shape and can be removed and bent slightly then replaced into the cup/pot. That will tighten them up and quiet them down. I modified the lid handle the same way, then took a small file and filed a slot in one end of the hinge (just like the Toaks). Now the little tab stays up when needed, and doesn't rattle.
I recently ordered the Toaks 1600 ml pot and pan through REI and will pick it up at their store to avoid a shipping fee. I'm so glad I went with the Toaks instead of Snow Peak! Great video comparison and thanks!
You are so funny. 😆 Saw your comment before video and wondered " what the heck?" I guess a real Mr. Rogers wouldn't have made that mistake. Very helpful vid anyway.
My branded 750 ml Toaks pot says Esbit on it. The way i dealt with not having measuring marks on the pot was taking the long handle spoon that I always carry and filing notches in it. Hold spoon in pot and pour until the notch goes underwater. And I'm with you on that handle kink for the third finger. You don't need to have a death grip on the handle to keep your knuckles off the hot side of the pot. I put one of those silicone rubber wrist bands around the top to act as a hotlip.
Thanks for taking the time--your video helped me make the decision to purchase Toaks. BTW-Toaks got your email, and all of the sizes I've seen now have the levels indicated--without having to send your pot to TheGoatMumbler shop for marks! BTW, "Viola" is an instrument similar to a violin; the usual expression is "voila"--French for "There it is!" or "There you go!" [2:58] But...I love it. A new "Dadism" for the kids! Vi-ola!
Thank you so much for this helpful comparison! It's exactly what I was looking for! Love the details that you picked up with the handles, the lid picker and the different titanium finishes, excellent
REI does carry Toaks products. Pots , cups, spoons, wood stoves, wind screens etc. If for any reason your local REI doesn’t carry them you can definitely get it on their website. I know, I work there.
This is the first time a review clarified the difference in Toaks handles. I have never liked wire handles, and I never liked them for the reasons you mentioned. The handles rattle around. I would have to steady the cooking pot or cup with my knuckles touching rhe hot surface, so what is the point? I select cookware or cups with no handles, or lock in place and squeeze to fold down. I like what I have, but it is good to know Toaks might be in my future. I have admired their products.
I have the same Snow Peak kit. I always just slipped a stick through the pot lid handle and that always made it easy to work the lid without burning my fingers or fumbling around. My only complaint with the SP kit was the floppy handles.
Thanks Mr. Rogers and Bill. That was very helpful. Just need to figure out size and yes, it is great to order direct when you can avoid Amazon especially. They are starting to unionize now, but working conditions are still really bad.
Toaks used to be a cheap brand, but now it's pretty mainstream. If you want something cheap, get on eBay and pick up a Tomshoo or Lixada pot for half the price of Toaks.
I took handles off my Toaks pots when one melted (part of) its sack. I have an old pot grabber from a previous Al cook kit that I use for stove removal. Also made insulated lids using foil and foam-core, and insulated sleeves using foil and paper. Insulation really improves the time hot water stays hot! My 650 & 1100 Toaks pots have graduations...
Ehm... in depth review i've been scrubbing back and forth to find out the size of the big one, I want nesting cups like you. How many ml is it? I know the small one is 550 (please add to description)
Snow peak makes some great pots, so does toaks. The snow peak pot you have is kind of the cheap one that does not fit in the normal product line. The 450, 600, 900 pot all have better handles. Snow peak is more cash, so if on a budget, toaks is the way to go. For me anyway, my TI pots are going to last me my lifetime,.. I go out to eat at a restaurant once and it's a $70 bill. So the extra cost of one brand over another is really a wash over time for a long use item like a pot. Not related, but an example,.. I got a good home use pot set when I got married, still using it 30 years later. I might have paid $100 more for the better set, but over time it's really nothing. Buy what you really want once,..
Details please: What are the volumes of the Toaks pots in this video? A simple update to description would be helpful. (You mentioned Toaks website is full of useful detail.)
I own a Toaks 750 and a Snow Peak 900 and they are both good, but the Snow Peak handle is WAY more comfortable on your fingers. That alone makes me choose it every time. It is MUCH more pleasant to eat and drink out of.
I dont get why people think titanium is so wonderful . Not really worth the jacked up price vs. stainless . If a person is that worried about weight .....maybe they need to hit it harder at the gym . In the bigger picture , there are few advantages to titanium over steel , or even aluminum . The money you save could be better put to use on more important items .
May I suggest reviewing the "Imusa" brand cups on Amazon ? I use a large & a small. About 2 bucks for the small, and 8 bucks for the large. Lightweight aluminum.
It's the 550 & 900ml pots. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I will add some annotations. There is more info on them in my other video here. ruclips.net/video/OOgjH2YeBpc/видео.html
Dremel on your SP lid will make that handle slide like your Toaks... Same mod on the handles will stop rattling, I'd do 1 on top to index packing and a different one on bottom to index keeping them open...
Maybe someday both of them will realize you cook in the big pots and need graduation scale and every body make,s coffee & tea in the cup . 'rocket science' Great review .
Good review. Your accent shows your family was from East TN or similar Appalachian Mountain origins; maybe that is where you get your backpacking wings? Never heard a TX person nail the East TN accent as well as this.
Just recently bought my first titanium pot, didn't have a clue if it's good titanium or not but seems to do what is required and is very light. It's OK to talk to Mr.Bill, things get a little tricky when he starts answering back!
As Bugs Bunny would say, what a maroon! That means YOU! Idiot, voilà is French and is pronounced "vwä-ˈlä." Initial 'v,' NOT 'w.' Just sayin,' you dullard.
I use chafing fuel to clean up my backpacking and camping cookware. I soak a little on a paper towel and set the cookware on it. I could also wrap the cookware with the soaked paper towel. Let it sit, rinse thoroughly. Wash thoroughly. I learned that from Zelph. He makes alcohol stoves.
My main problem with Toaks (and all the no name Chinese “titanium” makers) is that there’s no guarantee it’s even titanium. If it were, why is the metal different shade than the Snow Peak? Likely most “titanium” made in China is an aluminum alloy. No thanks. I’ll stick to legit non-Chinese makers.
I have an rei titanium coffee mug,single insulation,I like it,cause is light and the looks. I like to drink my coffee very hot,scalding hot,but I don't use this mug as I would like,cause in matter of seconds the liquid gets luke warm, coffee doesn't stay hot enough,and I drink my coffee in less than 5 minutes. Do u have any idea why this metal acts like this?
ArbitraryLifestyle they’re overpriced as sin with everything. I do use the store as a reference before buying stuff on amazon, though. Saves me a decent chunk of time and money.
What does this weigh vs the budget cook kit with the Stanley pot? I modeled my kit exactly off your budget kit unsure if I would stick with backpacking. I have and I want to shave some ounces and lbs. From my pack!
Thank you. I have enjoyed this review. I am shopping for a 700 pot. With a lid!! The Toaks looks mo better! Than the Snow Peak? And, (comma) their 700 pot too. This has been a good fun vid.
It’s my understanding that Snow Peak uses Grade 1 pure titanium and Toaks uses Grade 5 (89%) titanium mixed with? This probably accounts for the cost difference along with the cost of manufacture. I think I’ll stick to cookware manufactured in countries with at least some consumer protections.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein What part of LOWEST did you not understand? English, anyone??? This is to differentiate between higher grades that have fewer impurities or have been alloyed. The basics of this is that too many people think Grade 1 is the highest grade when in fact it is the lowest.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein Hmm, I didn't know truth was so subject to a popularity contest! I always thought the truth was the truth. Anyway, my issue is with the people who make out that somehow G1or G2 is somehow top of the line as fas as titanium - when it clearly isn't.
@@Roarmeister2 While you were certainly rude to that other person, I did find your information interesting. Will look into titanium further before I buy anything.
I was going to buy some Snow Peak stacking cups but saw a review that said you can taste the titanium in the food. Is that normal for titanium cookware? Thanks
They don't put the marks on the larger pots, so you buy the cup as well. Good Marketing Idea. just mark your water bottle, bladder or whatever and that should do it. great video
i dont think its a good idea to mark this thin material at all... as you weak the surface this way. when you use and heat the pot for a long time it will "maybe" burst one day at exactly this stamp point. excuse my english. greetings from a metalworker from germany :-) thanks for the nice review!
Interesting. Thank you. In your opinion, is titanium safe to eat from? I know not to eat from aluminum or teflon coated pans. Have figured titanium is used to replace bones so it must be safe. But maybe I am wrong? Silicon is now considered unsafe in the body...
The thing about Chinese products is sometimes it seems like they get rid of their toxic industrial waste by putting it into consumer products they export.
Here's one but I there are several others. Make sure you choose one that sells some XL bands. www.amazon.com/Ranger-Bands-Made-EPDM-Rubber/dp/B00MDU2594/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1493037315&sr=8-4&keywords=ranger+bands
The handles are formed into a kind of "letter C" shape and can be removed and bent slightly then replaced into the cup/pot.
That will tighten them up and quiet them down. I modified the lid handle the same way, then took a small file and filed
a slot in one end of the hinge (just like the Toaks). Now the little tab stays up when needed, and doesn't rattle.
I recently ordered the Toaks 1600 ml pot and pan through REI and will pick it up at their store to avoid a shipping fee. I'm so glad I went with the Toaks instead of Snow Peak! Great video comparison and thanks!
Can you cook with toaks on open fire
...Viola, I haven’t seen her since high school. I heard she studied at the Conservatorium, but dropped out to join the strings section.
You are so funny. 😆 Saw your comment before video and wondered " what the heck?" I guess a real Mr. Rogers wouldn't have made that mistake. Very helpful vid anyway.
My branded 750 ml Toaks pot says Esbit on it. The way i dealt with not having measuring marks on the pot was taking the long handle spoon that I always carry and filing notches in it. Hold spoon in pot and pour until the notch goes underwater.
And I'm with you on that handle kink for the third finger. You don't need to have a death grip on the handle to keep your knuckles off the hot side of the pot.
I put one of those silicone rubber wrist bands around the top to act as a hotlip.
Nice tip. Thanks!
On my stainless cups I dimpled the metal at the 1 & 2 cup marks.
Wierd, have marks on both my 750ml and 1100ml pot =)
My 900 toaks has markings? I've had mine about a year?
Thanks for taking the time--your video helped me make the decision to purchase Toaks. BTW-Toaks got your email, and all of the sizes I've seen now have the levels indicated--without having to send your pot to TheGoatMumbler shop for marks!
BTW, "Viola" is an instrument similar to a violin; the usual expression is "voila"--French for "There it is!" or "There you go!" [2:58] But...I love it. A new "Dadism" for the kids! Vi-ola!
Thank you so much for this helpful comparison! It's exactly what I was looking for! Love the details that you picked up with the handles, the lid picker and the different titanium finishes, excellent
REI does carry Toaks products. Pots , cups, spoons, wood stoves, wind screens etc. If for any reason your local REI doesn’t carry them you can definitely get it on their website. I know, I work there.
This is the first time a review clarified the difference in Toaks handles.
I have never liked wire handles, and I never liked them for the reasons you mentioned.
The handles rattle around.
I would have to steady the cooking pot or cup with my knuckles touching rhe hot surface, so what is the point?
I select cookware or cups with no handles, or lock in place and squeeze to fold down.
I like what I have, but it is good to know Toaks might be in my future.
I have admired their products.
I have the same Snow Peak kit. I always just slipped a stick through the pot lid handle and that always made it easy to work the lid without burning my fingers or fumbling around. My only complaint with the SP kit was the floppy handles.
Agreed. Thanks for watching.
Because the cup with the marks is the measuring cup
Thanks Mr. Rogers and Bill. That was very helpful. Just need to figure out size and yes, it is great to order direct when you can avoid Amazon especially. They are starting to unionize now, but working conditions are still really bad.
REI now carries Toaks. I had been on the fence about them, until I was able to compare them side by side.
Excellent review, thank you! Helped me a lot towards making a decision between the two.
Toaks used to be a cheap brand, but now it's pretty mainstream. If you want something cheap, get on eBay and pick up a Tomshoo or Lixada pot for half the price of Toaks.
I took handles off my Toaks pots when one melted (part of) its sack. I have an old pot grabber from a previous Al cook kit that I use for stove removal. Also made insulated lids using foil and foam-core, and insulated sleeves using foil and paper. Insulation really improves the time hot water stays hot!
My 650 & 1100 Toaks pots have graduations...
I tied a small piece of ribbon on the Snow Peak pot lid V
, which makes lifting up very easy
Ehm... in depth review i've been scrubbing back and forth to find out the size of the big one, I want nesting cups like you. How many ml is it? I know the small one is 550 (please add to description)
Snow peak makes some great pots, so does toaks. The snow peak pot you have is kind of the cheap one that does not fit in the normal product line. The 450, 600, 900 pot all have better handles. Snow peak is more cash, so if on a budget, toaks is the way to go. For me anyway, my TI pots are going to last me my lifetime,.. I go out to eat at a restaurant once and it's a $70 bill. So the extra cost of one brand over another is really a wash over time for a long use item like a pot. Not related, but an example,.. I got a good home use pot set when I got married, still using it 30 years later. I might have paid $100 more for the better set, but over time it's really nothing. Buy what you really want once,..
Thanks💜
I believe the thinking is you should have a cup with measurements to go along with the pot.
I just added a video and mentioned your video. You were a big help for me picking my system. Thank you
Thanks man!
Just tie a small piece of paracord on the lid handle to grab it by. Or put a paperclip or safety pin on it.
Great comparison and advice sir! Thanks and Cheers 👍😀👊
I carry a pair of bamboo chopsticks, 7gr, in my cookset. It's not just for eating, it's also for grabbing pot lid handles or pot lids or whatever.
The little dohiki that makes the little handle stand up is good but it will still be to hot to pick up with bare hands (ont he Toaks Pot).
Details please: What are the volumes of the Toaks pots in this video? A simple update to description would be helpful. (You mentioned Toaks website is full of useful detail.)
Sorry. 550 &900ml. Thanks for watching.
I own a Toaks 750 and a Snow Peak 900 and they are both good, but the Snow Peak handle is WAY more comfortable on your fingers.
That alone makes me choose it every time. It is MUCH more pleasant to eat and drink out of.
Interesting. Thanks.
Enjoyable program. Thank you!
Can you cool with on open fire dor the toaks 1300ml.pot and with the snowpeak kettle number 1?
Ohhhhh nooooooooo ! REI really wants that card. Haha
Great review and looking forward to the finished setup
I know!! But what can I say? I need to see more options than just Snow Peak and the MSR kettle at REI.
I dont get why people think titanium is so wonderful . Not really worth the jacked up price vs. stainless . If a person is that worried about weight .....maybe they need to hit it harder at the gym . In the bigger picture , there are few advantages to titanium over steel , or even aluminum . The money you save could be better put to use on more important items .
This guy is my spirit animal! 🐐
May I suggest reviewing the "Imusa" brand cups on Amazon ?
I use a large & a small.
About 2 bucks for the small, and 8 bucks for the large. Lightweight aluminum.
Aluminum not good for you. Nor teflon coating. Should be stainless steel or titanium. Or good old cast iron!
Great review! Subscribed. Thanks for so much excellent information.
Thank you, this was a big help in choosing my cooking pot.
You are welcome. Good luck!
Those are cups. I bought the Toaks 2.0 liter pot. At last, enough food. No more thimbles.
I wish you would have said what size your toaks cup and pot was.
It's the 550 & 900ml pots. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I will add some annotations. There is more info on them in my other video here. ruclips.net/video/OOgjH2YeBpc/видео.html
What sizes are the two pots? I have the 550ml and looking to expand. I think these are the 750 and 450????
And 6 yrs later they still don’t have a pour spout
Dremel on your SP lid will make that handle slide like your Toaks... Same mod on the handles will stop rattling, I'd do 1 on top to index packing and a different one on bottom to index keeping them open...
What do you mean dremel will stop the rattling of the handles?
Maybe someday both of them will realize you cook in the big pots and need graduation scale and every body make,s coffee & tea in the cup . 'rocket science' Great review .
just picked up a toaks 1100 ml with bail handle. it has graduation marks.
i saw it to,it looks like a great pot
Just get a good key ring to put on handle. Makes huge difference
@@svenlima put it on the lid where the zipper tab was.
I guess Toaks has listened, since my Toaks 1,600 ml. pot has the graduation marks.
What's the name and size of the nesting gas tank? Is this refillable?
That's a 110g MSR can. It is not refillable. Other people make it as well.
You can buy a Toaks lid alone for like $5 if anyone already owns a Snow peak and wants to upgrade to the lid
Mr. Bill kills me.
On another note, does the Bush Buddy nest inside the 900ml Toaks?
Good review. Your accent shows your family was from East TN or similar Appalachian Mountain origins; maybe that is where you get your backpacking wings? Never heard a TX person nail the East TN accent as well as this.
Can you use on open fire
Could you nest the tall snow peak pot inside the small Toaks (550ml) pot?
great,i have seen them and was wondering
Thanks for the great review! I appreciate you taking the time to do this.
I'm here to serve you! :)
Viola?!
:)
Some write whalla ...... some pronounce vY OLa.....
That was a joke
Its voila and pronounced wa la
@@TheGoatMumbler And by the way, it is pronounced GRADATION marks not GRADUATION. Nobody is graduating from high school here.
I’m curious why no link in your description?
Do the Toaks pots shown here nest into one another with lids? It appears that they do.
Just recently bought my first titanium pot, didn't have a clue if it's good titanium or not but seems to do what is required and is very light. It's OK to talk to Mr.Bill, things get a little tricky when he starts answering back!
Welcome to the brotherhood of Ti. :)
Is that the Toaks 550ml pot? Reason I'm asking is I'm looking at the Toaks 550ml pot on Amazon and the pictures show graduation marks on it.
Thank you for the information! “Viola” is a French word, pronounced “ wah lah” . Just sayin’.
Viola means “to rape/violate” in French 😳 I think he means Voila 😂
As Bugs Bunny would say, what a maroon! That means YOU! Idiot, voilà is French and is pronounced "vwä-ˈlä." Initial 'v,' NOT 'w.' Just sayin,' you dullard.
Hehe Toaks is made in China. That doesn't bother me. Just thought your comment was funny.
Oh and I live mine. I have two.
If I was bothered every time I bought something from China I'd be pissed off all day! Thanks for watching.
My toaks 1100ml with bail handle has graduations on it.
Great reviews, thanks
"OH No...ITS MR HAND!!!!"
Looks like none of these have ever been used.
I use chafing fuel to clean up my backpacking and camping cookware.
I soak a little on a paper towel and set the cookware on it.
I could also wrap the cookware with the soaked paper towel.
Let it sit, rinse thoroughly.
Wash thoroughly.
I learned that from Zelph.
He makes alcohol stoves.
My main problem with Toaks (and all the no name Chinese “titanium” makers) is that there’s no guarantee it’s even titanium. If it were, why is the metal different shade than the Snow Peak? Likely most “titanium” made in China is an aluminum alloy.
No thanks. I’ll stick to legit non-Chinese makers.
I have an rei titanium coffee mug,single insulation,I like it,cause is light and the looks. I like to drink my coffee very hot,scalding hot,but I don't use this mug as I would like,cause in matter of seconds the liquid gets luke warm, coffee doesn't stay hot enough,and I drink my coffee in less than 5 minutes. Do u have any idea why this metal acts like this?
titantium isn't a vey good insulator. The US Air Force built the SR-71 out of titantium because it doesn't melt AND dissipates heat fast!
Thin. The best drinks are in ceramic mugs.
You now own what pleases you but I found your objections trivial.
2:57 “Viola”. Seriously?
As Bugs Bunny would say: “What a maroon”.
well hate to say all u needed do is use a Baker's Measuring from tsp to 1 cup for the dollar store or buy a metal one for a little more $
thanks ...from me too
Thanks for watching!
This a great review and I am new to your channel. I subbed.
Thanks Roger.
ooohhhh nooooooooooo!!!!
REI DOES carry TOAKS now :)
ArbitraryLifestyle they’re overpriced as sin with everything. I do use the store as a reference before buying stuff on amazon, though. Saves me a decent chunk of time and money.
What does this weigh vs the budget cook kit with the Stanley pot? I modeled my kit exactly off your budget kit unsure if I would stick with backpacking. I have and I want to shave some ounces and lbs. From my pack!
Stanley pots are great. But I did an in store weight comparison and the titanium is waaayyyy lighter. Huge difference.
I agree. Whenever possible/makes sense monetarily, order from the company's site.
phooey on amazon.
Don't touch the little handle when it's hot. Too obvious?
No graduation marks to reduce cost and simplify manufacturing process
Thank you. I have enjoyed this review. I am shopping for a 700 pot. With a lid!! The Toaks looks mo better! Than the Snow Peak? And, (comma) their 700 pot too. This has been a good fun vid.
That Mr. Bill thing is creepy man. Other wise great vid
What are the sizes of the Toaks you have there?
2019
Any updates ?
It’s my understanding that Snow Peak uses Grade 1 pure titanium and Toaks uses Grade 5 (89%) titanium mixed with? This probably accounts for the cost difference along with the cost of manufacture. I think I’ll stick to cookware manufactured in countries with at least some consumer protections.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein Grade 1 and 2 are the lowest or softest grades and also the cheapest.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein What part of LOWEST did you not understand? English, anyone??? This is to differentiate between higher grades that have fewer impurities or have been alloyed. The basics of this is that too many people think Grade 1 is the highest grade when in fact it is the lowest.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein Hmm, I didn't know truth was so subject to a popularity contest! I always thought the truth was the truth.
Anyway, my issue is with the people who make out that somehow G1or G2 is somehow top of the line as fas as titanium - when it clearly isn't.
@@Roarmeister2 While you were certainly rude to that other person, I did find your information interesting. Will look into titanium further before I buy anything.
Try msr kettle
I was going to buy some Snow Peak stacking cups but saw a review that said you can taste the titanium in the food. Is that normal for titanium cookware? Thanks
I have not experienced that nor have I heard of anyone else mention it.
TheGoatMumbler Sweet! Thanks for the response. I really want those cups.
Lol taste of titanium. I have a lot of Snowpeak titanium products myself because of their superior quality and I don’t taste nothing.
@@kenjkbs Might test for covid then. 😅🤣
Toaks is now at REI.
Hey Troy, it's through, not threw. BTW, where is your phone from? Um, China?
They don't put the marks on the larger pots, so you buy the cup as well. Good Marketing Idea. just mark your water bottle, bladder or whatever and that should do it. great video
2:55. "VIE-OH-LA"? Is that the southern pronounciation?
Perhaps...yet does it matter? Is this a good use of the RUclips comment feature? Grow up.
I didn’t know Mr. Bill was still around, I thought I saw him get pretty smashed up back in the day...
i dont think its a good idea to mark this thin material at all... as you weak the surface this way. when you use and heat the pot for a long time it will "maybe" burst one day at exactly this stamp point. excuse my english. greetings from a metalworker from germany :-)
thanks for the nice review!
Thanks for that info.
Interesting. Thank you. In your opinion, is titanium safe to eat from? I know not to eat from aluminum or teflon coated pans. Have figured titanium is used to replace bones so it must be safe. But maybe I am wrong? Silicon is now considered unsafe in the body...
When I saw Mr. Bill I hit the thumbs up faster than Sluggo destroying him.
Nice!
Thanks man.
"Viola" lol, you mean voilà?
The thing about Chinese products is sometimes it seems like they get rid of their toxic industrial waste by putting it into consumer products they export.
idiot
Funny. Got any other good ones?
And we dump our garbage there in the first place. Best not to throw stones in a glass house.
Whinner
Are you so helpless that you can not figure out how to accurately scribe fluid level measurements on your pot¿
Viola lol
Can you give link to ranger bands on amazon please?
Here's one but I there are several others. Make sure you choose one that sells some XL bands.
www.amazon.com/Ranger-Bands-Made-EPDM-Rubber/dp/B00MDU2594/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1493037315&sr=8-4&keywords=ranger+bands
Buy a bike tube for about $10 and cut over 100 ranger bands ;)
What Toaks Cup would hold a Stanley cook kit best? Like in the budget minded video you did..
ruclips.net/video/00gwQ4z_nQQ/видео.html&index=34&list=WL
Id rather have rattling than eat out of a Chinese mug. I dont trust them enough to eat or cook with it. Call me paranoid. Sorry Toaks.
Hi mate,how many ml is the small toaks mug??? Thank you my friend 👍✅😊
550ml
Chinese vs. Japanese.........need I say more?