These helmets are from China. They are marketed as Caiman Helmets on eBay, etc. many US companies are ‘white labeling’ them, including names that would surprise you. Some companies will add their own ‘proprietary’ mounting system. I hate to tell you, but if you look at the photos from HHV and then look at the helmets from Caiman - they are remarkably identical. NIJ also doesn’t rate helmets for bullet resistance - the military does. By the way, Mr. Gunsandgear did in fact shoot one of these and it was surprisingly resistant. I don’t think you made a mistake. It serves your needs and I appreciate you sharing your insights. Beautiful ear pro by the way. Happy New Year!
i would recommend either a team Wendy bump helmet or a opscore bump helmet, you can find them around 300 bucks. it might sound like alot but these helmet will save your noggin if you take a nasty fall. the one you have looks like a opscore knockoff. it might do the job but i would not trust it to stop a 22lr so the extra weight is not worth it since the more weight you have the more risk for a head injury
No helmet is going to stop any rifle round what so ever. IDC if you paid 200 or 1500 dollars for it. I got about 10 friends from Afghanistan will you the same thing that got shrapnel all in their heads and neck from explosives. The reason why, is that if they put ballistic material in a helmet and it did block a 5.56 or a 7.62 directly not at a angle is it will snap your neck or paralysis will occur at the minimum. Your body is the weak part of the equation. You are more likely to live if the round actually penetrates or bounces off at a angle.
@ Good to know! Their bump helmets clearly are not though. I have an HHV ballistic helmet (earlier arc rail version) and it’s excellent. If you look at their bump helmets and compare them to Caiman, the results are pretty telling.
@@Mark-et8vh for me personally, I didn’t like their bumps as I was in between the medium was too small and the large was too big. They told me to go with their lattice system, which was another 200 and something dollars on top of the helmet so I just ended up buying a team Wendy helmet which fit better and was less.
I got one of these purely to wear to my reserve field training exercises for our field hospital. I always get issued an enormous Kevlar that’s gotta be from the first gulf war and rattles around on my baby head but we get yelled at if it’s not on when we’re running drills. Don’t think I would take it down range but $100 well spent for what I need. Cheaper than a legit manufacturer bump helmet and will probably sneak under the radar when we’re playing pretend. Hopefully if I ever have to play for real I’ll actually get issued some good shit lol.
Looks good on you.. and it would save you in a fall etc... great ear piece holder and camera holder.. good thinking on keeping the attachment tight with velcro.. PERFECT for airsoft! Sending love..
💀 WARNING 💀 ... I just watched a video showing a guy doing a demo he shot a hole in it with 22 LR then a Big Hole with 9mm. Looked like it had Styrofoam in it. I'm not happy I just bought one of their Level IV's. You might want to keep your head out of the way of small projectiles ... ☠️
While I’m not willing to shoot my helmet to find out, I am pretty sure that it will hold up against 9mm as long as it’s not at point blank range. Mine is pretty well molded fiberglass and I do believe it has some Kevlar woven into it. I seriously doubt that I will ever need it for the purpose for which it was intended. To be honest, it is much better made and much thicker than the last helmet I was issued when I went to Iraq in 2005, and that experience has a lot to do with why I think it should hold up against 9mm. On the other hand, I am also pretty sure a 5.56 round will probably go through it like a hot knife through warm butter.
... this is marketed as a Class 4 ~ I just watched a guy shoot a hole in it with a 22 long rifle. He wasn't Happy. ... This is called fraud. It could get someone dumbass killed.
Depends on what your looking for. If your plans are just a helmet to mount nods or to mess around with I think it’s a ok solution if you can get it for cheap enough. These all come from china and retail for 100-150 shipped. The ballistic protection is questionable but there are videos on youtube showing it being atleast able to take some handgun rounds without issue. I think a major issue is some resellers are sell the fiberglass versions as the ballistic versions. Luckily yours is clearly some type of aramid. I think the factories in china to makeup for the lack of QC during the pressing process use a lot more aramid or PE layers and as a result the helmets are about 8 oz to a pound heavier than helmets made in Europe or the states. They’re based on the old generation of opscore helmets (SX/ XP legacy / LE) so won’t fit bigger headsets as well as the newer SHC helmets.
Yep. I bought one of those. Airsoft junk. I shot the hell out of it.... with a .22 pistol. Never even got to 9 ball. Bought a Team Wendy bump and a HHV ballistic after that. Whaddya gonna do? Mistakes get made... often by me.
I am sorry, but I have $525.00 invested in this helmet, I won't be doing any ballistic test on it. I am not a monetized channel nor do I have sponsors. I am just an old retiree who likes to make videos.
I did the same mistake from Helmetbros. I paid $300. Nice helmet with a very good suspension system, but the ballistic protection is a complete false advertisement. I too leanred that after I received mine. The cost is what drove me to the purchase as well. Spending near or over a $1000 was not an option for a helmet I dont plan on using on actual combat, but having the protection at a cheaper price would have been nice. That was the trap for us all.
Bought one of these about a year ago. I think they are not even 3a. There is a video on Facebook and a .22 defeated this helmet from tachelmet. Keep your heads down 😮
@@armeddiver first of all, they sell, knock off product from other companies, which are actually actually smaller than the original. Secondly, they sell fake medical equipment that actually fails and has been proven to fail. Ukraine wars perfect example.
@@armeddiver Neither is anything else. There is no such thing as a ballistic helmet. Even in the 2000 range. The reason is you'll die from the concussion if they actually did stop rifle rounds. Its only mean to give you a fighting chance at distance of getting a spare round at distance when the round has reduced velocity and hits at a angle, ask me how I know.
I got it from the company in about seven days. I have no idea where it made. It didn't come from China, but that doesn't mean that isn't where it was made.
Thank you for the quick reply. Tracking shows mine is shipping from china. Has taken 2 weeks to get to the U.S. and has been in los angeles for nearly a week. But again, thanks for the reply and great video.
@@stratocasterxyz Appreciate the advise, but I am just going to keep it. I am 70 and it is a just in case and something to hang ear protection and Go Pro or NVs off of.
I would, but I am not convinced they would actually give me a refund. I am afraid that if I return it I will be out the money and the helmet, so I am going to keep it.
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Velcro for an MVG mount?? That's JUNK man! It costs hundreds of dollars for the multiple parts to mount NVGs. I bought a full face helmet from onlyest for nearly four hundred bucks. Dude if I smack it as hard as I can from both sides or slam it on the ground it will snap apart. It's toy stuff dude. Heavy toy stuff for airsoft.
Dude, you have forgotten more about helmets than I have time left to learn about them. The Velcro isn’t there to mount anything. I put it there to prevent my GoPro mount from rattling in the mount. I am 70. I got the helmet for a “just in case” scenario. At my age and where I live I won’t be buying NVGs anytime soon. I appreciate your comment. All comments help me learn about something I really know nothing about.
@@justinweeks6608 The bump helmets are marketed at $150.00. Mine was "supposed" to be a Level IV Ballistic Helmet, which is why I paid so much. I really made a mistake not doing more research. I [assumed] there were actual standards for helmets and the way they were marketed.
Yes you did. if you Google their address, it’s in the middle of nowhere with a trailer. Their phone number doesn’t work and if you try to email them it sent it to a different email which you get no reply a helmet fail a drop test from 40 inches and crack the helmet we have pictures that we posted on social media They have multiple different names the operate under with similar websites, same misspelled words
My brother in christ. If you had done 5 minutes of research you could clearly tell that they're shady af. Their address is a trailer in alabama but they have a big picture of a warehouse with "TacHelmet" on the side.
That is the problem. I did "5 minutes of research". I clearly should have done a lot more. Hopefully, others will do a better job than I did. As old as I am I should have known better. I am still shocked that there are not better product controls on helmets, which is a lot of the reason I made the video.
@@daniellindsey6499 Daniel, I am sorry. You got caught pretty much like I did. There doesn’t appear to be anyway to hold helmet makers accountable, when they falsely advertise.
Please don't feel bad. A lot of us made this mistake too. Thanks for making the video, helpful to warn others. Maybe still fun to use in airsoft kits.
Thank you. Appreciate the comment.
Thanks for sharing and letting people learn from your mistakes and experiences
Thank you for the kind words.
I wish I had seen this video before I bought one. I only spent $100.
These helmets are from China. They are marketed as Caiman Helmets on eBay, etc. many US companies are ‘white labeling’ them, including names that would surprise you. Some companies will add their own ‘proprietary’ mounting system. I hate to tell you, but if you look at the photos from HHV and then look at the helmets from Caiman - they are remarkably identical. NIJ also doesn’t rate helmets for bullet resistance - the military does. By the way, Mr. Gunsandgear did in fact shoot one of these and it was surprisingly resistant. I don’t think you made a mistake. It serves your needs and I appreciate you sharing your insights. Beautiful ear pro by the way. Happy New Year!
Thank you for the comment. I didn't know that Mr Guns and Gear actually tested the helmet. I will go take a look. Again, thank you for your comment.
i would recommend either a team Wendy bump helmet or a opscore bump helmet, you can find them around 300 bucks. it might sound like alot but these helmet will save your noggin if you take a nasty fall. the one you have looks like a opscore knockoff. it might do the job but i would not trust it to stop a 22lr so the extra weight is not worth it since the more weight you have the more risk for a head injury
Interesting. I hadn’t thought of that at all. Thanks.
No helmet is going to stop any rifle round what so ever. IDC if you paid 200 or 1500 dollars for it. I got about 10 friends from Afghanistan will you the same thing that got shrapnel all in their heads and neck from explosives. The reason why, is that if they put ballistic material in a helmet and it did block a 5.56 or a 7.62 directly not at a angle is it will snap your neck or paralysis will occur at the minimum. Your body is the weak part of the equation. You are more likely to live if the round actually penetrates or bounces off at a angle.
@@brooktech7869calm down navy seal, no one even brought up stopping rifle rounds
@@brooktech7869 Thank you. I sincerely appreciate the response. It makes a difference.
I got bumps for my nvg i love em
FYI all the helmets they sell are the same. They just call it a different name and charge you more
Yup
Indeed. Buying from HHV (among others) does not get you a US made helmet.
@@Mark-et8vh their ballistic helmet is made in Texas
@ Good to know! Their bump helmets clearly are not though. I have an HHV ballistic helmet (earlier arc rail version) and it’s excellent. If you look at their bump helmets and compare them to Caiman, the results are pretty telling.
@@Mark-et8vh for me personally, I didn’t like their bumps as I was in between the medium was too small and the large was too big.
They told me to go with their lattice system, which was another 200 and something dollars on top of the helmet so I just ended up buying a team Wendy helmet which fit better and was less.
I got one of these purely to wear to my reserve field training exercises for our field hospital. I always get issued an enormous Kevlar that’s
gotta be from the first gulf war and rattles around on my baby head but we get yelled at if it’s not on when we’re running drills. Don’t think I would take it down range but $100 well spent for what I need. Cheaper than a legit manufacturer bump helmet and will probably sneak under the radar when we’re playing pretend. Hopefully if I ever have to play for real I’ll actually get issued some good shit lol.
If they don't give you a good ballistic helmet,
I understand Team Wendy is supposed to be really good.
Clays custom surplus helmets also sells CVC surplus helmets new and used for $550. ( tank helmets)
Thanks for the recommendation.
Looks good on you.. and it would save you in a fall etc... great ear piece holder and camera holder.. good thinking on keeping the attachment tight with velcro.. PERFECT for airsoft! Sending love..
Thank you for the kind words.
💀 WARNING 💀
... I just watched a video showing a guy doing a demo he shot a hole in it with 22 LR then a Big Hole with 9mm. Looked like it had Styrofoam in it.
I'm not happy I just bought one of their Level IV's.
You might want to keep your head out of the way of small projectiles ... ☠️
While I’m not willing to shoot my helmet to find out, I am pretty sure that it will hold up against 9mm as long as it’s not at point blank range. Mine is pretty well molded fiberglass and I do believe it has some Kevlar woven into it. I seriously doubt that I will ever need it for the purpose for which it was intended. To be honest, it is much better made and much thicker than the last helmet I was issued when I went to Iraq in 2005, and that experience has a lot to do with why I think it should hold up against 9mm. On the other hand, I am also pretty sure a 5.56 round will probably go through it like a hot knife through warm butter.
... this is marketed as a Class 4 ~ I just watched a guy shoot a hole in it with a 22 long rifle.
He wasn't Happy.
... This is called fraud.
It could get someone dumbass killed.
@@philwelborn6718 Which is why I made the video.
Depends on what your looking for. If your plans are just a helmet to mount nods or to mess around with I think it’s a ok solution if you can get it for cheap enough. These all come from china and retail for 100-150 shipped. The ballistic protection is questionable but there are videos on youtube showing it being atleast able to take some handgun rounds without issue. I think a major issue is some resellers are sell the fiberglass versions as the ballistic versions. Luckily yours is clearly some type of aramid. I think the factories in china to makeup for the lack of QC during the pressing process use a lot more aramid or PE layers and as a result the helmets are about 8 oz to a pound heavier than helmets made in Europe or the states. They’re based on the old generation of opscore helmets (SX/ XP legacy / LE) so won’t fit bigger headsets as well as the newer SHC helmets.
Thank you for commenting. It really helps in understanding what I bought. Again, thank you.
Yep. I bought one of those. Airsoft junk. I shot the hell out of it.... with a .22 pistol. Never even got to 9 ball. Bought a Team Wendy bump and a HHV ballistic after that. Whaddya gonna do? Mistakes get made... often by me.
Would you be opposed to doing a ballistic test of your own with one of there helmets
I am sorry, but I have $525.00 invested in this helmet, I won't be doing any ballistic test on it. I am not a monetized channel nor do I have sponsors. I am just an old retiree who likes to make videos.
@@armeddiver understandable
I did the same mistake from Helmetbros. I paid $300. Nice helmet with a very good suspension system, but the ballistic protection is a complete false advertisement. I too leanred that after I received mine. The cost is what drove me to the purchase as well. Spending near or over a $1000 was not an option for a helmet I dont plan on using on actual combat, but having the protection at a cheaper price would have been nice. That was the trap for us all.
@@GeorgeStarkes Amen my friend, amen.
We’re you able to return it?
No, I am going to do my best to use it as is. I have worn worse helmets over the years.
You could’ve bought a Denmark protective group that’s been wildly used been tested for $550.
I definitely need to take a look.
Bought one of these about a year ago. I think they are not even 3a. There is a video on Facebook and a .22 defeated this helmet from tachelmet. Keep your heads down 😮
Will do my friend.
Try Tacticon armament
You’ll be very pleased with their entire selection
Thank you. I will take a look.
😂 pure trash
@@aaronkeener95 I don't know if it is complete trash, but it is definitely not what it was marketed as.
@@armeddiver first of all, they sell, knock off product from other companies, which are actually actually smaller than the original. Secondly, they sell fake medical equipment that actually fails and has been proven to fail. Ukraine wars perfect example.
@@armeddiver Neither is anything else. There is no such thing as a ballistic helmet. Even in the 2000 range. The reason is you'll die from the concussion if they actually did stop rifle rounds. Its only mean to give you a fighting chance at distance of getting a spare round at distance when the round has reduced velocity and hits at a angle, ask me how I know.
I understand this is just a bump helmet for NVG's. But, how long did it take to get it from china?
I got it from the company in about seven days. I have no idea where it made. It didn't come from China, but that doesn't mean that isn't where it was made.
Thank you for the quick reply. Tracking shows mine is shipping from china. Has taken 2 weeks to get to the U.S. and has been in los angeles for nearly a week. But again, thanks for the reply and great video.
@@joew7581 You are welcome. Sorry to hear you are having such a delay.
OPS-CORE FAST RF1 helmet is a better bet but damn expensive. Over $3k its what the seal teams likely use.
@@Killswitch1411 Thank you. I am 70 and really don’t think I will ever need a helmet so I am going to try and make this one work.
@@armeddiver Kind of figured lol. The Army is issued Armor Source look into those as well much cheaper. They can actually stop something lol
@@Killswitch1411 Thank you
You should be able to do a charge back on your card for being scammed especially if you don't heat back from the company
@@stratocasterxyz Appreciate the advise, but I am just going to keep it. I am 70 and it is a just in case and something to hang ear protection and Go Pro or NVs off of.
Return it, ASAP.
I would, but I am not convinced they would actually give me a refund. I am afraid that if I return it I will be out the money and the helmet, so I am going to keep it.
@@armeddiverI impulsed bought this also and seeing all the reviews I’m upset. But then again you live and and learn
@@Zero_AimTv Let's hope others learn from us and don't make the same mistake.
They’re good for airsoft, I got a similar fro 70$
I wish I had paid only $70.00. Unfortunately, I paid a lot more for this one. Thank you for your comment.
A proper helmet will have the BOA strap system not that plastic
how quickly did it take you to receive the helmet?
@@chrisz2342 Less than a week.
@@armeddiver thank you
@@armeddiver did you receive updates to your email about shipping or it just showed up?
@@chrisz2342 The sent me an order confirmation and when they shipped it I got the tracking number, which was USPS.
@@armeddiver okay and was that long after you placed the order? sorry i just ordered mine this morning so wanting to know the process
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Velcro for an MVG mount?? That's JUNK man! It costs hundreds of dollars for the multiple parts to mount NVGs. I bought a full face helmet from onlyest for nearly four hundred bucks. Dude if I smack it as hard as I can from both sides or slam it on the ground it will snap apart. It's toy stuff dude. Heavy toy stuff for airsoft.
Dude, you have forgotten more about helmets than I have time left to learn about them. The Velcro isn’t there to mount anything. I put it there to prevent my GoPro mount from rattling in the mount. I am 70. I got the helmet for a “just in case” scenario. At my age and where I live I won’t be buying NVGs anytime soon. I appreciate your comment. All comments help me learn about something I really know nothing about.
Check out Guard Dog body armor
I have a set of Guard Dog plates and absolutely love them. I didn't know they did helmets I will definitely take a look.
Dont feel bad, i got ran over by a night vision seller bc i didnt knkw as much as i ought to have known.
Thank you. The idea of night vision is something I really need to think long and hard about.
It'll be good for airsoft I guess
Unfortunately, I don’t do airsoft.
Not for $500.
FYI those helmets are garbage will not stop a .22 cal gun let alone a centerline gun like 9mm
@@shawnorcutt2119 so I have learned.
500?!?!
Yup.
@@armeddiver theyre selling them for like 150 rn…
@@justinweeks6608 The bump helmets are marketed at $150.00. Mine was "supposed" to be a Level IV Ballistic Helmet, which is why I paid so much. I really made a mistake not doing more research. I [assumed] there were actual standards for helmets and the way they were marketed.
Yes you did.
if you Google their address, it’s in the middle of nowhere with a trailer.
Their phone number doesn’t work and if you try to email them it sent it to a different email which you get no reply
a helmet fail a drop test from 40 inches and crack the helmet we have pictures that we posted on social media
They have multiple different names the operate under with similar websites, same misspelled words
Yes, I found that out.
My brother in christ. If you had done 5 minutes of research you could clearly tell that they're shady af. Their address is a trailer in alabama but they have a big picture of a warehouse with "TacHelmet" on the side.
That is the problem. I did "5 minutes of research". I clearly should have done a lot more. Hopefully, others will do a better job than I did. As old as I am I should have known better. I am still shocked that there are not better product controls on helmets, which is a lot of the reason I made the video.
@@armeddiverI just ordered one and it says you can’t return it after they ship it I’m so pissed I got the one for 150$
@@daniellindsey6499 Daniel, I am sorry. You got caught pretty much like I did. There doesn’t appear to be anyway to hold helmet makers accountable, when they falsely advertise.
@@daniellindsey6499did you receive your helmet?