"I just prep for the next game" is too real 😂. Ranked is so stressful bro.. When you get popped in the air you might as well grab your phone and surf the web because it's gonna be mad long before you have a chance to do anything
It's funny bc even with his back against the wall, Leo is still menacing with that uf1+2 throw. Reverses position even on break, and Lord help you if it CH you prepatch: unbreakable wall throw xx full combo xx oki.
I think im wired different. I have trouble with the "weaker" characters than i ever do with "top tiers". Ive never struggled with a Draganov or King, even at god ranks, from my first time playing them til now (no exaggeration, I can't recall a time where they weren't free wins) So even when I didn't get them a lot, I smoked them. Yet i have so much trouble with steve or Leo players or other characters no one talks about as much. Then folks be like "skill issue". But if that's the case why am I consistently destroying Fengs with a "low tier" and yal complain about him and say he's got the best all around stats? Cuz there's more that goes into tiers than just a characters tools.
because you are being fucked by gimmicks. You aren't vsing the player you're vsing the character. Alot of those types of characters weaknesses are knowing when to interrupt a string, duck a high, low parry something, or sidestep. Drag, Feng. Whilst at top of tier list, simply have strong key moves rather than strings or gimmicks. You guess correctly or play around timing and spacing you will have a good chance at winning. Vsing something like hwoarang, you are there until the pilot makes a mistake, or until you interupt a string,lp,duck, or side step at the right time. Those types of characters put a fuck tonne more defensive responsibilities on the player, so you have to be more active to beat them. That's why you lose to 'weaker' cast members. As once you have the answers to their strings set ups and gimmicks, they die for using them. As opposed to having simply strong key moves, like wr2 on drag, or good strong throws on king. They are the best at what they do in their respective properties, however victor wr2 far better than drags now, probably best wr move in game now.
Yeah, I wouldn't call them S tier. I'm not just saying that just because I'm a Leo main; it's because you can't really be carried by Leo. They don't have cheesy attack strings, they can be out poked, and some of their best mix ups can be beaten with a simple jab. You really have to take advantage of a opponent's playstyle to win, especially at higher levels. But Leo IS an underestimated character, that I can agree with. Play with some skill and a game plan, and you can do well with Leo. I just don't want them to get any major nerfs. They don't need buffs, they don't need nerfs. They're good enough as is, as far as I'm concerned.
@@Swordsage I'm having a seizure, why "them" and "they" ?? You talking about Leo's mains? Other than that, I agree. Leo does not have cheesy stuff at high level or tools to open up turtles
Maybe it seems that way because I haven't played against/labbed her enough, but, outside of lows, a lot of Leo's stance moves seem safe. Like I said, I could be quite wrong. Maybe it's just the way Richie plays, but it seems like Leo gets a lot of reward off very little risk.
@@rMell lemme iron out what you said 1,4 into knk is unsafe F4 to knk you have to respect Knk2 is -6 Knk 1+2 is safe Knk 4 is -13 Knk3 ,4 is atleast -14 or more Knk 3+4 is a launch punishable low Bok 2 is -9 Bok 3 can be ducked Bok 1+2 is punishable Bok 1,2 is punishable
As a Leo main since launch.. can confirm lol and I’m lowkey bad with him and still have a ton to learn about how to play him. He’s great in this game, VERY easy to pick up and play.
Haha, of course, see who's playing in it + Ritchie plays Leo and doesn't use any moves Broken Rishty plays defensive play and doesn't attack I don't know why Ritchie does that please stop saying weak Leo
Okay so it happened to K-wiss, so I know I ain’t crazy. After a heat smash or heat rush/burst (unsure of the name) on block, sometimes even if I’m holding back I still get hit by stuff? Is there something I’m doing wrong or is it a bug? Great stuff K-wiss man btw. Loving the Hwoarang gameplay
Most likely a bug. Same thing been happening to me to the point where I can’t even block low attacks after being hit with a heat engager. (Except hellsweeps)
Hey K wiss I was wondering why in a lot of situations you to the 3, 2 ending instead of 3 ->4 ender. I know it's only 1 point of damage and the wall isn't breakable in most of these situations, but I'm curious is it an oke (sic?) Thing or another reason? Or am I just over thinking it. Hope you're doing well
More consistency, less overall execution for same damage plus gives better oki (if they stay grounded you can ff+3 or b+3. If they immediately get up, theyre forced on the defensive and a mixup situation)
I thought it was just me ima Tekken god jin and im like am i the only one getting dusted by leos insane easy mode combo damge and strings i know hes not popular but christ im going to call leo tekken 1 the damage man
Saying a professional Tekken player “has no life besides the game” is the same as saying a professional football player has no life besides football. Dumb as hell😂
@@neopolitan9156 He's my second character and even though I love him, his tracking is a real issue. Compared to the rest of the cast, I seriously think he might be the easiest one to step.
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How is this comment two days old huh?
The Fact that you have to be so aggressive and overly aggressive in this game is just no fun at all
Leo is a damage generator
Underrated character bro that spike combo, 2 heat smashes, heat burst conversions, & just overall tools is strong asf in T8 I know Richie eating rn
Ngl I watch Richie, Madara, and Ex Kean is back at now. I'm really enjoying Leo in this game.
Ex Kean mentioned!
I always struggled with Leo (around Bushin lvl+), esp with all the 50/50s. If I'm against a wall, I just prep for the next game lol...
"I just prep for the next game" is too real 😂. Ranked is so stressful bro.. When you get popped in the air you might as well grab your phone and surf the web because it's gonna be mad long before you have a chance to do anything
bruh, every promotion match I get, it’s against a Leo and boi they be doin me dirty. I can’t get into tekken king bc of them😂😭🤣
It's funny bc even with his back against the wall, Leo is still menacing with that uf1+2 throw. Reverses position even on break, and Lord help you if it CH you prepatch: unbreakable wall throw xx full combo xx oki.
I think im wired different. I have trouble with the "weaker" characters than i ever do with "top tiers". Ive never struggled with a Draganov or King, even at god ranks, from my first time playing them til now (no exaggeration, I can't recall a time where they weren't free wins) So even when I didn't get them a lot, I smoked them. Yet i have so much trouble with steve or Leo players or other characters no one talks about as much. Then folks be like "skill issue". But if that's the case why am I consistently destroying Fengs with a "low tier" and yal complain about him and say he's got the best all around stats? Cuz there's more that goes into tiers than just a characters tools.
unironically those top tiers you are playing against are carried
because you are being fucked by gimmicks. You aren't vsing the player you're vsing the character. Alot of those types of characters weaknesses are knowing when to interrupt a string, duck a high, low parry something, or sidestep.
Drag, Feng. Whilst at top of tier list, simply have strong key moves rather than strings or gimmicks. You guess correctly or play around timing and spacing you will have a good chance at winning.
Vsing something like hwoarang, you are there until the pilot makes a mistake, or until you interupt a string,lp,duck, or side step at the right time.
Those types of characters put a fuck tonne more defensive responsibilities on the player, so you have to be more active to beat them. That's why you lose to 'weaker' cast members. As once you have the answers to their strings set ups and gimmicks, they die for using them. As opposed to having simply strong key moves, like wr2 on drag, or good strong throws on king. They are the best at what they do in their respective properties, however victor wr2 far better than drags now, probably best wr move in game now.
Hwoarang is more "not okay" imo
I don't think hwo is broken maybe too much damage on 10f ch launcher and that annoying low but isn't overtly problematic like a lot of the other cast
Leo is worse than Hwoarang.
Hworang isn’t that bad tbh . Once you learn to counter his bs you’re golden
Leo is easily drag tier of damage and pressure with ling and feng's bullshit
It’s just a title of a series
Leo is really an S nobody talks about
Not exactly but definitely flying under the radar
Yeah, I wouldn't call them S tier. I'm not just saying that just because I'm a Leo main; it's because you can't really be carried by Leo. They don't have cheesy attack strings, they can be out poked, and some of their best mix ups can be beaten with a simple jab. You really have to take advantage of a opponent's playstyle to win, especially at higher levels. But Leo IS an underestimated character, that I can agree with. Play with some skill and a game plan, and you can do well with Leo. I just don't want them to get any major nerfs. They don't need buffs, they don't need nerfs. They're good enough as is, as far as I'm concerned.
Leo has the lowest win rate out of all characters past Fujin ranks
Leo is definitley not S
@@Swordsage I'm having a seizure, why "them" and "they" ?? You talking about Leo's mains?
Other than that, I agree. Leo does not have cheesy stuff at high level or tools to open up turtles
one of the chatters said “i can see the leo is not okay video already” 😭 ts cracked me up
The sidestep jsfr in the start is wild
Now this is some TEKKEN 8 Leo Ayorichie!!!!
Maybe it seems that way because I haven't played against/labbed her enough, but, outside of lows, a lot of Leo's stance moves seem safe. Like I said, I could be quite wrong.
Maybe it's just the way Richie plays, but it seems like Leo gets a lot of reward off very little risk.
Naw Leo’s stances aren’t that safe. Knk is -9 on block and bok is hopkick punishable if the Leo doesn’t do 1+2 for armor
@@rMell lemme iron out what you said
1,4 into knk is unsafe
F4 to knk you have to respect
Knk2 is -6
Knk 1+2 is safe
Knk 4 is -13
Knk3 ,4 is atleast -14 or more
Knk 3+4 is a launch punishable low
Bok 2 is -9
Bok 3 can be ducked
Bok 1+2 is punishable
Bok 1,2 is punishable
her?
Leo hits like a truck..sheesh!!!
So when lidia is no ok comes out will K-Wiss be the featured player
Lidia will get a special episode “Lidia is completely fine :)”
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He said Richie is mashing, the irony
“Mashing” just means not respecting plus frames, it’s pretty obvious with context if you know what you’re looking at
@@K-Wiss bet
@@K-Wiss you know what you meant dude, no need to go "achually"
@@Morkuza i find it funny how kwiss talks about not respecting plus frames but mashes 3 times in a row after having gotten hit xD the irony
As a Leo main since launch.. can confirm lol and I’m lowkey bad with him and still have a ton to learn about how to play him. He’s great in this game, VERY easy to pick up and play.
Haha, of course, see who's playing in it + Ritchie plays Leo and doesn't use any moves Broken Rishty plays defensive play and doesn't attack I don't know why Ritchie does that please stop saying weak Leo
That’s funny cause one stream he played against another Leo and it opened his eyes that that wall damage was not okay 😂
PLEASE USE PUNCTUATION. holy shit.
A new series?
This NOT OKAY series deserves a 🍿🥤
this isn't a new series
What was the question?
Okay so it happened to K-wiss, so I know I ain’t crazy. After a heat smash or heat rush/burst (unsure of the name) on block, sometimes even if I’m holding back I still get hit by stuff? Is there something I’m doing wrong or is it a bug? Great stuff K-wiss man btw. Loving the Hwoarang gameplay
Most likely a bug. Same thing been happening to me to the point where I can’t even block low attacks after being hit with a heat engager. (Except hellsweeps)
@@HBLZ that’s good to know I’m not losing my mind. Been a while since I’ve seen my notifications on YT so am wondering if it’s been patched?
yea but nobody talks about it for some reasons...
Exactly! All they can say is make offensive comments!
Nobody plays them
Shh let us be...
@@PasxalkA I know 😢😂
Not here for it 😂 I'm still mad they nerfed b1,1+2. Best move Leo's ever had
Wait i havent played in a bit what did they do?
Tbh I think it's a disguised buff, the fact that it's minus makes people want to press to punish and get caught in bok's extention more often.
Whats that grab K wiss always does with the blue sparkles and shit?
qcb3
Qcb1
As a Leo player idk what you're talking about 🤫
Hey K wiss I was wondering why in a lot of situations you to the 3, 2 ending instead of 3 ->4 ender. I know it's only 1 point of damage and the wall isn't breakable in most of these situations, but I'm curious is it an oke (sic?) Thing or another reason? Or am I just over thinking it. Hope you're doing well
it hits more consistently is all
More consistency, less overall execution for same damage plus gives better oki (if they stay grounded you can ff+3 or b+3. If they immediately get up, theyre forced on the defensive and a mixup situation)
I thought it was just me ima Tekken god jin and im like am i the only one getting dusted by leos insane easy mode combo damge and strings i know hes not popular but christ im going to call leo tekken 1 the damage man
First Dragunov, today Leo, tomorrow? Kuma xd
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А что не так? Человек играет думая в отличие от Хво!!!
Yo that chat mad disrespectful, yall should chill man we got to see tekken at high level with no bs characters
imagine complaining about guessing the moves of leo and maining Howarang.
One of my best friends is a leo main and everytime i play against him a part of me dies 😂
half the cast of tekken 8 is not ok
16:04 doesn't the install make it safe?
I think its still -10
It's -13
Oh i remember this stream It was a while ago
Mashers even at GoD is sumn else 😂
Saying a professional Tekken player “has no life besides the game” is the same as saying a professional football player has no life besides football. Dumb as hell😂
K-wiss? Bruh I thought you was speedkicks
Why not keep things like this to yourself?
Leave em alone
Don't ya dare bash mah gal like that!
Your gal is a man
Leo is maybe the most linear character in the game. Very easy to step.
Its almost funny how easy it is, i main the character and stepped others by accident
@@neopolitan9156 He's my second character and even though I love him, his tracking is a real issue. Compared to the rest of the cast, I seriously think he might be the easiest one to step.
Random question but what were Leo’s pronouns?
I just keep using “they” since I thought Leo was supposed to be ambiguous
90% sure it’s a girl
@@Percoseti they’re not, used to be a boy and now they don’t refer to themselves as a specific gender
Who cares
@@apallow9814right. What matters is he’s a sleeper top 10 pick imo
Leo is the strongest personality I have and I don't know another personality other than Leo
Hey shhhhhh 😂
Amazing
Not a fan of Baji-Quan characters