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I owned one of these magnificent cars for two years. It was a simply amazing car and head turner. You have to treat it with respect but is a lot of fun to drive.
Very fair review. I have a 2016 BMW M4 with Competition Package / M Performance Exhaust here in Austin Texas and I absolutely love it......puts a smile on my face every day 😀
Great review. The bhp figures you quoted were a bit out - the regular M4 are actually 431 bhp and the new Comp version is 13 bhp more at 444 bhp, it all counts and like you say there are a host of differences - it’s the Comp for me ! 👍
Stef, great video. I've owned both cars. They both are different and great in there own way. The alfa qv has better balance and phenomenal steering and pulls hard at the top. The m4 pulls like a train down low. I sold the alfa I kept the m4. Dealer network complete trash. They dont even have loaner cars they send you to enterprise rent a car. I shop 4 bays for alfa and Maserati. The alfa doesn't get going all the time until your half way through second or going into 3rd. That sucks. The bmw always has power. Alfa depreciation is awful. The m4 market is so much stronger. The alfa is a great car. In time I will give them another chance.
I have the exactly same m4 competition. It's really fun to drive. But the stupidest design of this car is my s10+ is too big to fit into the wireless charging pad :(
In my opinion, they might be close performance wise, but when it comes to look and the present m4 is the winner for me. I believe M4 f82 is the best-looking bmw
Both great drivers cars, although we are comparing a 4-door sedan with a coupe....for me the answer is easy....QV! Just wait for the coupe version of QV....then we can compare properly. Alfa is also only on their 1st version which means still a lot to refine...isn’t it....
When I took the M3 into the dealer to get my annual maintenance I got a 2019 M340i loaner for the day not too shabby and it was all new tech inside....not an M car but not bad at all know what they give you as a loaner when you bring your QV in......? A fiat 500 or a chrysler 300 LMAO
This Clip going back a few years but for peoples interest. Went to the dealer to test drive a Quadrifoglio, came home with a BMW M4 Competition after driving both back to back. Preferred the low down torque and brutish nature of the M4 over the Alfa. I also wanted a car that I could go hard on the track. BMW just build for punishment. But Both cool cars, just depends on the driver and driver preferences.
I cannot comprehend how the same BMW e46 are churning out cars that sounds like an amplified electric motor, that synthetic sound does not sound mechanical and appears bulky. However, my limitation are that I have not driven both cars....I will take the Alfa, it evokes emotions and sounds more like a mechanical propelled vehicle. Brilliant comparison Stef.
I own that Very car same color 2020 M4 Comp without the carbon Fiber Brakes I can tell you the first thing that needs to be done on these cars is to TURN OFF the "Active Sound" I did it with a Burger Tuning JB4, and get VRSF Cat-less Downpipes Then the Car is a BEAST! The drone of that Stupid Active sound drove me crazy, It now sounds like an F1 car. The active sound tried to make it sound like a V8, but fake. That fake active sound comes from the Subwoofers by the way.
@@angeloferrara3671 Yes, on my mother's side. Italy creates some of the finest designs in the world for a host of items. Cars, clothing, music, art, furniture, etc. Alfa is part of their heritage.
Am I the only person who watches these videos and hasn't previously owned this car, the previous model, all the competitors and knows all the ins and outs of all of them?
Horrible sound inside the cabin because of the Active sound design (sound coming from speakers) you can disable via coding your car with Carly Pro for exemple
What is the rear seat room like in the M4? Note the QV has heated steering wheel. Edit: a RUclips reviewer called Fezza has had a lot of reliability issues his standard M4.
Evening stef it's the Alfa for me all day long, the Beemer doesn't get a look in. By the way, was the sound generator in the Beemer switched on because the sound of the engine from the inside sounded strange. Regards Simon.
Both cars are great. Alfa is let down by reliability, quality and dealer network but I do love the QV. I know Alfa lovers say they are reliable but if you look on the forums , the reviews and the warranty data it's just not true but I wish it were.
Why does everybody say that the qv is unreliable ???? Mine is 1.5 years old and no issues , and many others I know are issue free . M3/4 not so much ( yes I have driven them and had an m2 before )
@@remcosol because of warranty data. You are talking emotion, I'm talking evidence based facts. Even if your M4 had more issues that would be your own personal experoence not actual data from many cars.
Interesting because in Germany and most European countries ( Holland as well) the new alfa’s are more reliable in these reliability tests then the Germans
@@remcosol ok ok mate, if you want to live in your own world of denial thats fine. I love Alfas but I also love facts and you are not being truthful. All the best.
I always liked BMW design, well almost always as they had some idiotic decisions over the years. However not perfect at all, especially compared to Alfa.
Ciao Stef. I check carefully your video. Sound much better Alfa🍀 Price Alfa is little bit cheaper. Interior quality little bit better BMW Steering much better Alfa🍀 Exterior Alfa🍀 is better. You are very professional👍👍 very good review
Bmw depreciation is horrible but the alpha is catastrophic, mainly because of all the mechanical and electrical issues. Dealer support on the alpha is lacking as well. I really like the body style on the alpha but the interior is where you live and it is subpar at best. My nod goes to the m4. Btw, I roll in a f13 m6 coupe.
What once was BMW M now needs "Competition Pack" to be as good as Alfa Giulia - BMW M rival. Either BMW watered down M division, or Alfa really made some brilliant car worth chasing by others.
Not even close. Giulia is way more fun and beautiful (and doesn't need fake engine noise). Reliability is about the same if you don't fall for old wives' tales.
Nice video as always and an honest opinion though the comparison is rather tough as the one is a 4 door sports saloon and the other a 2-door sports saloon with about 60 HP deficit in favor for the Giulia Q. Personally, I would not change my Giulia Quadrifoglio for an M4 Competition alone for the emotional part, the nimbleness and driver thrills that the Alfa offers against its competition when it is driven as it should. The Giulia Q platform literally feels like it dances on the tarmac while accelerating and changing gears while the M4 makes you think of the application of robotics and mechatronics in car design and construction. I have test driven both the M3 Comp and the M4 Comp. Both of them work without a doubt but in a clinical manner but I do prefer the M3. In the end of the day, it all boils down to what you want: warm or cold technology. Both are amazing cars and within fairly acceptable price ranges considering the segment and what they offer. Rather irrelevant to this video but here it goes: have you tried to test the new MY 2020 Audi RS7? Obiously this car fills another bracket compared to the Giulia Q and the M4 Comp but I'd say that I was pretty impressed. It is a machine I would drive anyday, would I be in the market for a 4 door sports saloon made in Germany. It's only a pity that a well spec'ed RS7 is that expensive.
Audi will always be watered down compared to BMW and especially Alfa. They must do it as it is how their customers see their cars. That is why I do not like Audi, especially their normal cars, good at everything but brilliant at nothing.
Just wait till the new M4 comes out, later in 2020, using the same format of the new modeled M340i. And if they use the same Xdrive system, which I'm sure they will use (As in the M5!), it's going to be a truly stunning car. So, begs the question. Have you driven the new model M340i with BMW's new 7th gen infotainment system? If not, why not? And if not, when are you going to drive it? Great video Stef. Good to see a Brit driving a British, RHD version of the M4 too.
So many reviews complain about Alfa’s Race Mode switching off traction control. Even in Race mode, it not totally off. It’s a driver’s car and driver’s cars put the car in the hands of the driver. Alfa all the way 🤙🏼🍀
Great and informative video. All BMW M are good cars with pleasant engines. However there is much passion with Alfa Romeo. And the sound of the Quadrifoglio is much better with a design that any BMW will never have. BMW will be an option if Alfa Romeo is focusing on SUV's in the near future.
I would say BMW would be an option if Alfa goes bankrupt. The cars will be ok mostly but then we have to live as BMW drivers, which makes me feel ashamed somehow.
As far as I know the m4 is no where near 1500kg as you said. It's more like 1650-1700kg. Even my e46 is not much less than 1500kg. The alfa Romeo has a more interesting engine in my opinion. The s55 is a bit boring and soulless. The previous generations had much better engine s54/s65. But the build quality and feel of the bmw would be much better than the alfa. The only new bmw I like is the m2, m4 is huge, more like a american muscle car.
The NRing is 99% cosmetic with better suspension, little or no increase in HP , a proper competition version would be 100 kilos lighter and at least 10-15% more power , then we could have a proper comparison, don’t you think ?
@lee. Totally irrelevant numbers. You really don't feel the difference between 4.2 or 3.9 seconds. The only thing that matters is how it makes you feel and how big you smile is when you walk towards it and start her up. It's different for everyone and that's also the reason we don't all drive the same car.
My 2020 BMW M4 CS 0-60 3.6 seconds, has its speed limiter to max at 175. M4 Competition does 0-60 in 3.9seconds and has a speed limiter set at 155 mph. I had my speed limiter removed by Dinan system. Top speed verified by radar at Wilowsprings is now 208 mph.
Alfa Romeo have been producing cars for approx 20yrs longer than BMW, that's why they're generally more fabled. With a racing pedigree, which can only be envied by even Ferrari's own accomplishments. God bless the Italian automotive industry, yet I'd never doubt the capabilities of the German car industry either.
@@irodrigo I really hope you are right. But looking at sales figures I can not see how could they survive. I believe the problem with Alfa sales is in their marketing and targeting. They make driver's cars and then all their marketing goes to how good they drive, emotions, and that kind of stuff. Totally wrong. Regular (read boring) human beings (97% of people) knows nothing about those and do not care at all, that is why no one buys an Alfa today. They should make the cars as they already do, but then they should change their strategy and talk only about how good infotainment system is, how many cup holders the car has, boot space, interior quality, all the bells and whistles that all other German cars have, and not talk about driving dynamics at all. Why? People do not care about driving, they want nice looking cars that have all the toys they want, and Alfa should give them that. The rest of us will know they drive well so this is a win-win combination.
Really no point in comparing the two cars, the QV could be half the price and twice the car and still "the sheep" will follow each other into the BMW dealers to pick up their M4. Personally it is the Alfa for me!
Stef...you're awesome, the Alfa has made significant strides in the segment with the Gulia, it is a well accomplished machine that like the golf MK5 came from nowhere and instantly became the talk of town. However, just like the well accompliished Audi, the Alfa, is the bastard child. It simply has a very longway to go untill it can compete with the german trio pound for pound, this amazing machine is not selling, the numbers on the road are very insignificant because consumers simply see the Alfa for what it is. Believe it or not, this amazing machine will soon be discontinued just like the 4c..Alfa makes amazing beautiful characterful cars that have zero value, simply what we can call, beauty with no brain cars... This M4 may be slower but simply is untouchable by the Alfa..
"The M4 may be slower, more boring, handle worse, need fake engine noise, not have a Ferrari engine, not be designed by Phillip Krief, no carbon fiber propshaft, no Pininfarina design, but it's simply untouchable by the 'zero-value' Alfa." Lol, seems legit.
M4 all day long. Friend of mine rejected two brand new Alfas. due to the bumper and fuel flap being a different shade to the rest of the car.Nearly asked for his deposit back. 2000 miles later he wished he had. The car needed a new diff and guess what. Alfa didn't have any. when it finally went in, the dealer lent him a diesel fiat. Complete shower. Cars have the build quality of a wet Kleenex.
Del Johnson you are such a dick! My friend had no issues ordering a diff through warranty. Installed within 2 weeks. As for the diff, it exploded as he drives like the car was stolen every second of the day. Secondly the alfa build quality is brilliant. If I had the money I’d buy a QV in a heart beat.
My friend got a brand new M3 with European delivery, and the axle broke after driving 10 miles. Every brand has issues, yet Most UK consumer surveys have put Alfa reliability above BMW and Merc.
@@irodrigo Of course. German products are usually good, but the best thing about them is the fact that they know how to sell their cars. Italians are the worst.
@@BojanBojovic Better for us owners. Rather not see one in every corner like BMWs, not to mention the need to water their cars down to appeal to everyone.
i’m a massive BMW fan and currently have a 6 series coupe (amazing interior) but the dash in the M4 is just the same as the 1 series. it’s very cheap looking in my opinion.
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I owned one of these magnificent cars for two years. It was a simply amazing car and head turner. You have to treat it with respect but is a lot of fun to drive.
It defo is a lot of fun. Very cool car
Very fair review. I have a 2016 BMW M4 with Competition Package / M Performance Exhaust here in Austin Texas and I absolutely love it......puts a smile on my face every day 😀
Great review. The bhp figures you quoted were a bit out - the regular M4 are actually 431 bhp and the new Comp version is 13 bhp more at 444 bhp, it all counts and like you say there are a host of differences - it’s the Comp for me ! 👍
Stef, great video. I've owned both cars. They both are different and great in there own way. The alfa qv has better balance and phenomenal steering and pulls hard at the top. The m4 pulls like a train down low. I sold the alfa I kept the m4. Dealer network complete trash. They dont even have loaner cars they send you to enterprise rent a car. I shop 4 bays for alfa and Maserati. The alfa doesn't get going all the time until your half way through second or going into 3rd. That sucks. The bmw always has power. Alfa depreciation is awful. The m4 market is so much stronger. The alfa is a great car. In time I will give them another chance.
Thank you. Really good insight. Thanks for sharing 🙌
I have the exactly same m4 competition. It's really fun to drive. But the stupidest design of this car is my s10+ is too big to fit into the wireless charging pad :(
In my opinion, they might be close performance wise, but when it comes to look and the present m4 is the winner for me. I believe M4 f82 is the best-looking bmw
Love the M4! So much more aggressive 🔥
Is amazing but stil prefer the Giulia!! And remembering that in a few months the new version of Giulia will be presented!
It will indeed. Let’s see what that brings :)
Both great drivers cars, although we are comparing a 4-door sedan with a coupe....for me the answer is easy....QV! Just wait for the coupe version of QV....then we can compare properly. Alfa is also only on their 1st version which means still a lot to refine...isn’t it....
There won't ever be a coupe version of the Giulia......only SUVs from now until the electrics take over....
When I took the M3 into the dealer to get my annual maintenance I got a 2019 M340i loaner for the day
not too shabby and it was all new tech inside....not an M car but not bad at all
know what they give you as a loaner when you bring your QV in......? A fiat 500 or a chrysler 300
LMAO
I own a QV and the dealer gives me another Guilia or Stelvio when I want a loaner. They roll out the red carpet for me.
I also got a stelvio as a loaner,..Love smoking Bmw Supras in my QV
Both m4/3 comp and alfa QV are briliant
I think both are beautiful cars
They are. In San Marino blue as well it’s stunning
This Clip going back a few years but for peoples interest. Went to the dealer to test drive a Quadrifoglio, came home with a BMW M4 Competition after driving both back to back. Preferred the low down torque and brutish nature of the M4 over the Alfa. I also wanted a car that I could go hard on the track. BMW just build for punishment. But Both cool cars, just depends on the driver and driver preferences.
Similar,..I test drove the M3 ,great car but much preferred the style and driving feel of the QV i bought,..
Im not a big fan of the Alfa, gotta be the m4 for me
Good video - enjoyed it. I pick up my M4 comp on Wednesday! 🥳
I cannot comprehend how the same BMW e46 are churning out cars that sounds like an amplified electric motor, that synthetic sound does not sound mechanical and appears bulky. However, my limitation are that I have not driven both cars....I will take the Alfa, it evokes emotions and sounds more like a mechanical propelled vehicle. Brilliant comparison Stef.
I own that Very car same color 2020 M4 Comp without the carbon Fiber Brakes I can tell you the first thing that needs to be done on these cars is to TURN OFF the "Active Sound" I did it with a Burger Tuning JB4, and get VRSF Cat-less Downpipes Then the Car is a BEAST! The drone of that Stupid Active sound drove me crazy, It now sounds like an F1 car.
The active sound tried to make it sound like a V8, but fake. That fake active sound comes from the Subwoofers by the way.
Yeah the sound is quite loud from inside for sure. Turn off active sound and get an exhaust and you are winning
M4 comp will always hold its money well the Alfa won’t,I think personally the M car takes some beating
I Love the carbon fibre bits in the interior! It's a real neat finish 💪
Its a handsome coupe. It has all the performance specialties one would expect from a M car. I still prefer the Alfa Romeo.
Of course cause you are probably Italian
@@angeloferrara3671 Yes, on my mother's side. Italy creates some of the finest designs in the world for a host of items. Cars, clothing, music, art, furniture, etc. Alfa is part of their heritage.
My dream car
I think the non Comp pack cars have more like 425hp don’t they? Not 400?
It's rather sad to think the Giulia is even on the same level as the M4. Pathetic. M4 is king everyday.
Am I the only person who watches these videos and hasn't previously owned this car, the previous model, all the competitors and knows all the ins and outs of all of them?
Wow a m4 never seen one before
Horrible sound inside the cabin because of the Active sound design (sound coming from speakers) you can disable via coding your car with Carly Pro for exemple
What is the rear seat room like in the M4? Note the QV has heated steering wheel.
Edit: a RUclips reviewer called Fezza has had a lot of reliability issues his standard M4.
Rear seat took in the m4 is decent bit more tricky getting in and out than the m3 and Giulia as it’s a coupe bit there’s decent room back there
Evening stef it's the Alfa for me all day long, the Beemer doesn't get a look in. By the way, was the sound generator in the Beemer switched on because the sound of the engine from the inside sounded strange. Regards Simon.
Both cars are great. Alfa is let down by reliability, quality and dealer network but I do love the QV. I know Alfa lovers say they are reliable but if you look on the forums , the reviews and the warranty data it's just not true but I wish it were.
People do talk a lot of bull when its about italians and on the internet.
Why does everybody say that the qv is unreliable ????
Mine is 1.5 years old and no issues , and many others I know are issue free . M3/4 not so much ( yes I have driven them and had an m2 before )
@@remcosol because of warranty data. You are talking emotion, I'm talking evidence based facts. Even if your M4 had more issues that would be your own personal experoence not actual data from many cars.
Interesting because in Germany and most European countries ( Holland as well) the new alfa’s are more reliable in these reliability tests then the Germans
@@remcosol ok ok mate, if you want to live in your own world of denial thats fine. I love Alfas but I also love facts and you are not being truthful. All the best.
I do like the look of the M4 sounds nice as well.
Yeah it’s a wicked car
Pick mine up today 😃
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Good review, got the m3 cs and love him, sound all of it. And the style is perfect.
I always liked BMW design, well almost always as they had some idiotic decisions over the years. However not perfect at all, especially compared to Alfa.
@@BojanBojovic i don´t go in the track evrey month, so i think the m3 cs is more stunning car than the Alfa, for me.
Absolutely agree.
Love mine too.❤️
Where are you from?
The Alfa rules. Best sedan ever
Coupe 2 door styling is a win for me. Perpetual development too. Let’s not mention after sales support & dealer coverage!!
Better performing car is a win for me. As long as I have a good dealer near me (Ferrari & Maserati dealership) I'm set with the better car, the Alfa.
Ciao Stef. I check carefully your video.
Sound much better Alfa🍀
Price Alfa is little bit cheaper.
Interior quality little bit better BMW
Steering much better Alfa🍀
Exterior Alfa🍀 is better.
You are very professional👍👍 very good review
Thanks for watching man 🙌
Bmw depreciation is horrible but the alpha is catastrophic, mainly because of all the mechanical and electrical issues. Dealer support on the alpha is lacking as well. I really like the body style on the alpha but the interior is where you live and it is subpar at best. My nod goes to the m4. Btw, I roll in a f13 m6 coupe.
What once was BMW M now needs "Competition Pack" to be as good as Alfa Giulia - BMW M rival.
Either BMW watered down M division, or Alfa really made some brilliant car worth chasing by others.
Because the m4 was 4 years old when the Giulia came out, and the competition was meant for c63s
M4 🔥🔥 it’s beautiful, reliable, better build quality, more fun, refined, etc....
Reliable... Of course it's a German car 😂
Not even close. Giulia is way more fun and beautiful (and doesn't need fake engine noise). Reliability is about the same if you don't fall for old wives' tales.
Just amazing ❤️
Now drive the 6MT and compare to DCT version and see the difference.
i just loved the intro on the M2 competition you should do it for the m4 aswell ;
The noise in the cabin sounds sooooo fake
Nice video as always and an honest opinion though the comparison is rather tough as the one is a 4 door sports saloon and the other a 2-door sports saloon with about 60 HP deficit in favor for the Giulia Q. Personally, I would not change my Giulia Quadrifoglio for an M4 Competition alone for the emotional part, the nimbleness and driver thrills that the Alfa offers against its competition when it is driven as it should.
The Giulia Q platform literally feels like it dances on the tarmac while accelerating and changing gears while the M4 makes you think of the application of robotics and mechatronics in car design and construction. I have test driven both the M3 Comp and the M4 Comp. Both of them work without a doubt but in a clinical manner but I do prefer the M3. In the end of the day, it all boils down to what you want: warm or cold technology. Both are amazing cars and within fairly acceptable price ranges considering the segment and what they offer.
Rather irrelevant to this video but here it goes: have you tried to test the new MY 2020 Audi RS7? Obiously this car fills another bracket compared to the Giulia Q and the M4 Comp but I'd say that I was pretty impressed. It is a machine I would drive anyday, would I be in the market for a 4 door sports saloon made in Germany. It's only a pity that a well spec'ed RS7 is that expensive.
Audi will always be watered down compared to BMW and especially Alfa. They must do it as it is how their customers see their cars. That is why I do not like Audi, especially their normal cars, good at everything but brilliant at nothing.
Just wait till the new M4 comes out, later in 2020, using the same format of the new modeled M340i.
And if they use the same Xdrive system, which I'm sure they will use (As in the M5!), it's going to be a truly stunning car.
So, begs the question. Have you driven the new model M340i with BMW's new 7th gen infotainment system? If not, why not? And if not, when are you going to drive it?
Great video Stef. Good to see a Brit driving a British, RHD version of the M4 too.
Its true, in this World, there are Heroes and there are posers....chose...
You mean "choose" right? 😃
@@paulsouth2164 ups, yes :)
So many reviews complain about Alfa’s Race Mode switching off traction control. Even in Race mode, it not totally off. It’s a driver’s car and driver’s cars put the car in the hands of the driver. Alfa all the way 🤙🏼🍀
Has this got a GPF filter in it?
Great and informative video.
All BMW M are good cars with pleasant engines. However there is much passion with Alfa Romeo.
And the sound of the Quadrifoglio is much better with a design that any BMW will never have.
BMW will be an option if Alfa Romeo is focusing on SUV's in the near future.
I would say BMW would be an option if Alfa goes bankrupt. The cars will be ok mostly but then we have to live as BMW drivers, which makes me feel ashamed somehow.
Depreciation on the Alfa is eye watering! A good value used option as they head sub 30k in 2020. The Alfa is rare and noisy so gets the thumbs up
As far as I know the m4 is no where near 1500kg as you said. It's more like 1650-1700kg. Even my e46 is not much less than 1500kg.
The alfa Romeo has a more interesting engine in my opinion. The s55 is a bit boring and soulless. The previous generations had much better engine s54/s65. But the build quality and feel of the bmw would be much better than the alfa.
The only new bmw I like is the m2, m4 is huge, more like a american muscle car.
Is there a hint of fake sound in there? Sounds a bit synthetic.
Yes, agreed! 🍀😍👍
In answer to your question.... HELL NO!
5:23 the Ricky from LLF lean there
😂😂😂 must be because I’m driving an M4
What if Alfa came out with the competition Giulia?
They did called the nring
The NRing is 99% cosmetic with better suspension, little or no increase in HP , a proper competition version would be 100 kilos lighter and at least 10-15% more power , then we could have a proper comparison, don’t you think ?
QV 0-62MPH In 3.9 top speed 191mph
BMW 0-62MPH in 4.1 top speed 155mph
you forgot QV 0-dealership for repairs in 2 weeks
They even give you a four leaf clover for good luck....as in good luck getting it repaired
@lee. Totally irrelevant numbers. You really don't feel the difference between 4.2 or 3.9 seconds. The only thing that matters is how it makes you feel and how big you smile is when you walk towards it and start her up. It's different for everyone and that's also the reason we don't all drive the same car.
My 2020 BMW M4 CS 0-60 3.6 seconds, has its speed limiter to max at 175. M4 Competition does 0-60 in 3.9seconds and has a speed limiter set at 155 mph. I had my speed limiter removed by Dinan system. Top speed verified by radar at Wilowsprings is now 208 mph.
Quality review. Nearly on par with Joe Ach😉
Haha cheers man
Alfa Romeo have been producing cars for approx 20yrs longer than BMW, that's why they're generally more fabled. With a racing pedigree, which can only be envied by even Ferrari's own accomplishments. God bless the Italian automotive industry, yet I'd never doubt the capabilities of the German car industry either.
The problem is in sale figures, when BMW started Alfa produced more cars, in the sixties they were somewhat even, today Alfa is almost non-existent.
Who cares about sales numbers when you can have a better car. Do 388s sell better than M3s?
@@irodrigo I care because it is very likely Alfa will go bankrupt soon if they do not learn how to sell their cars.
@@BojanBojovic You do realize people have been saying that for 50 years, right? Absurd. Especially as part of FCA+PSA.
@@irodrigo I really hope you are right. But looking at sales figures I can not see how could they survive.
I believe the problem with Alfa sales is in their marketing and targeting. They make driver's cars and then all their marketing goes to how good they drive, emotions, and that kind of stuff. Totally wrong. Regular (read boring) human beings (97% of people) knows nothing about those and do not care at all, that is why no one buys an Alfa today. They should make the cars as they already do, but then they should change their strategy and talk only about how good infotainment system is, how many cup holders the car has, boot space, interior quality, all the bells and whistles that all other German cars have, and not talk about driving dynamics at all.
Why? People do not care about driving, they want nice looking cars that have all the toys they want, and Alfa should give them that. The rest of us will know they drive well so this is a win-win combination.
This plastic engine sound from speakers... Horrible ...
The Giulia also looks better.
Giulia has that beautiful Italian look. This still looks lovely though in my opinion
@@StefABtv Hey mate. Yes it does look nice. Bmw for me is only the true M versions. I do like them all apart from the 1M.
60k on autotrader 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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いい音！
BMW M4 is coupè, Giulia is sedan.
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Really no point in comparing the two cars, the QV could be half the price and twice the car and still "the sheep" will follow each other into the BMW dealers to pick up their M4. Personally it is the Alfa for me!
Germans know how to sell their cars, both brilliant and average ones.
nothing is better than the alfa!
A 2015 year Porsche 911 for the same price is a drivers car and sounds better 🤷🏽♂️
Great review Stef 😎 I have to say the Alpha for me is a better car 👍🏻 the M4 is nice but the Alpha is a Beast !!
Dont forget the New M4 is also on the way......
Stef...you're awesome, the Alfa has made significant strides in the segment with the Gulia, it is a well accomplished machine that like the golf MK5 came from nowhere and instantly became the talk of town.
However, just like the well accompliished Audi, the Alfa, is the bastard child. It simply has a very longway to go untill it can compete with the german trio pound for pound, this amazing machine is not selling, the numbers on the road are very insignificant because consumers simply see the Alfa for what it is.
Believe it or not, this amazing machine will soon be discontinued just like the 4c..Alfa makes amazing beautiful characterful cars that have zero value, simply what we can call, beauty with no brain cars...
This M4 may be slower but simply is untouchable by the Alfa..
Great insight thanks man 🙌
"The M4 may be slower, more boring, handle worse, need fake engine noise, not have a Ferrari engine, not be designed by Phillip Krief, no carbon fiber propshaft, no Pininfarina design, but it's simply untouchable by the 'zero-value' Alfa."
Lol, seems legit.
It doesn’t make sense! 😂
M4 all day long. Friend of mine rejected two brand new Alfas. due to the bumper and fuel flap being a different shade to the rest of the car.Nearly asked for his deposit back. 2000 miles later he wished he had. The car needed a new diff and guess what. Alfa didn't have any. when it finally went in, the dealer lent him a diesel fiat. Complete shower. Cars have the build quality of a wet Kleenex.
Del Johnson you are such a dick!
My friend had no issues ordering a diff through warranty. Installed within 2 weeks.
As for the diff, it exploded as he drives like the car was stolen every second of the day.
Secondly the alfa build quality is brilliant.
If I had the money I’d buy a QV in a heart beat.
How typical, someone has a friend who has some horror story...
My friend got a brand new M3 with European delivery, and the axle broke after driving 10 miles. Every brand has issues, yet Most UK consumer surveys have put Alfa reliability above BMW and Merc.
@@irodrigo Of course. German products are usually good, but the best thing about them is the fact that they know how to sell their cars. Italians are the worst.
@@BojanBojovic Better for us owners. Rather not see one in every corner like BMWs, not to mention the need to water their cars down to appeal to everyone.
i’m a massive BMW fan and currently have a 6 series coupe (amazing interior) but the dash in the M4 is just the same as the 1 series. it’s very cheap looking in my opinion.
It’s not cheap looking, it’s functional and minimalistic. This is the last BMW which came with analog gauges which is one less thing to break.
Sounds awful
Alfa everyday.
NÜRNBURGRING:
GIULIA Q: 7:32 MINUTES
M4: 7:52 MINUTES
RIP BMW.
Kwick Check 7:38
@@PaulSvk84
Who?
Giulia all the way long.
wtf
Worst sounding inline 6 bmw has ever made.