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BIRD PHOTOGRAPHY in the forest - A7IV + Sigma 300mm f2.8
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2022
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is 300mm enough for general bird photography? That's one of the questions I'm trying to answer in this video. Hiding in the forest is definitely one of my favorite things to do. What's yours?
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Thanks for watching,
Olle
That FPV shot to start out the video was 🔥
Thanks Jeremy!!
Love flying around with my quad. Glad I can use some material on the channel!😊
@@ollenilssonen but how the hell did you manage this while driving the car? 😂
@@eike.zender hahah it’s my friend in the car. That would NOT end well😂😂
@@ollenilssonen Puh, that's what I thought 😂
The beauty of using 300 mm is that you get to capture the surrounding, like the branches, leaves and all greenery in bokeh, which imo looks pretty good and gives a bit more detail to the photo.
Nah I had a Tamron 150-500 and even at 500mm the birds usually were too small in the frame. If you have a lens that can go as far as 600mm you will still get leaves, branches etc in the frame. 600mm +1.4tc is probably best for these birds. Or trying to get much closer with less then that.
For small song birds, You can generally multiply the lens by 0.05 to get your distance. 300 X 0.05 = 15 Feet is a good limit to keep in mind!
I tried wildlife photography as a hobby and I had bad experiences all three times I went out. What happened was I had two very bad boar encounters, during day, where I had to climb a tree and wait - and if you know anything about animals, you know that the chances of you encountering a boar during day is near 0%. The third time I went out, I went to my countries mountainside and not even two minutes after I parked my car and started walking further up into the mountain, I had a bear encounter and I barely managed to scare it away, I basically thought ''this is it,'' that's how bad it was. Thing is, going off the official conservation center data of my country, there are only 80-100 bears left in my country, so the chances of me running into one were non existent. I believe that if I went out the fourth time I would have encountered a Godzilla or something... I guess the world was trying to tell me that I should get the hell back into town and stick to portraits and weddings... Either I'm too good at finding animals or my camo was just too awesome, haha...
Woah that’s insane.. what are the odds??
I’m glad you’re OK, but too bad you got bad experiences of it..😩
Wow I’m sorry you were very lucky all three times you were out. That’s all wildlife photography about: The Experience! Meanwhile here I’m in the state with at least 15000 to 20000 black bears but have yet to encounter a single one and I did search for them multiple times, hopefully this Spring 😄
That Forest, chirpings,environment,fresh air! Its always has been my dream to go camping in that kinda of place.but its not possible here in Bangladesh. You guys are Lucky for your geographical location
Nice stuff! Never easy with telling wildlife Vlog. They animals never do what you want them to. Love your work and channel!
Thank you!! It can be rrally frustrating. But I guess it’s part of the fun!😃
So a little late to the game in responding here but for what it's worth... I had two trips to Europe, northern Portugal and Madeira in 2022 and Southern Spain in 2023, and used my 70-300 l on a Canon R and it did well. Maybe not as ideal as my 400 on the r7 but good enough to get images I was happy with. Now my most recent trip to France a few months ago and an upcoming trip to Sicily I am taking the rf 100-500 and its so much easier for birds. All this to say 300 is not ideal but not impossible for bird photography. And great video. Will definitely be following your channel.
Just got your channel recommended and I love your narrating style! So comfy to watch! :)
Towards the question at the end; I tend to use a Sigma 150-600, but with enough camoflage, tons of patience and the silent shutter of my nikon z5 a 105mm macro lens does magic with small birds.
Where I live it can sometimes get very cloudy so 300mm F2.8 would be great to get pictures of birds when the lighting isn't ideal.
Thanks for the video. I myself considering the difference between the Canon 100mm-400mm vs its 300mm f4. I might be missing on the high end, but will definitely win in the light gathering department.
I have an ef300mm f/4 that I use with my Canon R6. It's not long enough for the longest shots but it works very well for medium work and shooting on my deck side bird feeding area. It also works great with a 1.4x teleconverter. I can even adapt it to my Sony A7iv with the MC-11.
How do you find the tracking and AF with the A7iv and MC-11?
DUDE THAT INTRO :O Always great to see your process out in the field man!
Haha thanks mate!!
I love hearing the Swedish names! It's interesting!
Great video Olle.
I was waiting for this!!!❤️💗😻
Glad to hear bro!
You're taking the time out to answer this question for everybody
I used 75-300mm on canon 250D. I got some really special shots but your point is right. 300mm is good but not the best for bird photography.
Beautiful shots and the sounds of the songbirds singing is really nice. Your outfit to hide from the wildlife is very interesting and seems to work! I’m Swedish, also, but I have never lived there . My grandmother was from a town in the very far north part of Sweden. She used to speak the Swedish language all the time when I was growing up and when she spoke English you could hear her Swedish accent. I don’t mind if you do not always know the English word for birds. She was very loving, generous, and hard worker. She immigrated to the U.S. as a child and moved to Gothenburg, Nebraska. Anyway, I enjoy your RUclips channel and I like wildlife photography, also.
That’s very interested. Thank you for sharing your story and watching my videos!🙏🏻
From the hide 300mm is more than enough especially on crop body. Great video 👌👌👌
Thanks for the video. The thing about shooting bird photography is yes, luck has something to do with it but being patient is the biggest skill is patients! With patients and the ability to keep still as possible is a virtue. Your positioning is also something to consider. Laying on the ground or getting as close to the ground as possible is critical.
The dirtier you get by laying on the ground the more you'll blend in with your surroundings and the better success of getting that award winner of a shot.
If I can suggest, look up Morton Hilmar on RUclips. On a video I watched, he was taking photos of water foul while up to his chest in water whilst the rest of the group of (not-so) professional photographers are standing on shore scared to get their toes wet. This is exactly what makes or breaks a serious/professional photographer.
Simple with not much editing but it provides me with something kind of relaxation when i watch you bro , your content is different from others and your way of communicating is diff . keep sharing your knowledge with us which you do without any hesitation . Love you bro 😘
Super glad to hear that!😍
@@ollenilssonen you deserve it brother
This video heals my inner child 🥺
Underrated youtuber found!!!
Haha thanks!!
@@ollenilssonen He`s right!
That so cool man...this is why i love my setup as well...
All the shots are ....."The Best"...♥️
Yes! Another bird photography video😍Always appreciated of course👍
Beautiful shots brother ❤
I like what you said about humans disturbing the birds. Fair play to you, as it should always be about the birds first and foremost.
Great to hear some honest thoughts about a lens, rather than the usual blissful bias!
Amazing footage from the drone. Congratulations!
Wow love this
2.8 is great, but you would need TCxx and a 7R to use it properly.
The 300 2.8 was another lens ive been eyeing, i like to call it the 35mm of telephotos 😅
Another amazing video Olle!! :)
Haha that’s so true,
35mm of telephotos!😂 brilliant!
Thanks!!
I don't know how much cost th Sigma, but Sony A-mount can be found at 2000 euros
@@GiuseppeGessa I bought mine for €1000, I think the A-mount performs better though!
I bought a used Canon EF 300mm f/4 to try on my Sony A7IV with a Metabones V adapter. Focusing and tracking suffered greatly with the adapter so I returned the Canon telephoto.☹️. I definitely appreciated your vlog testing other telephoto lenses. I have the Sony 200-600mm but I find it’s too heavy for me to carry all day. Thanks again and keep photographing!🙏🏼👍🏼🤗
Remove the tripod shoe and add the peak design accessory and hang it from there
Nice drone shot! Wow!
Thanks a ton!😃
Great video like always! 😍🙌
Thanks Gamander!!
Great setting. I did feel the video needed more detail on the camera settings for this type of shoot. When walking the woods I use a 300mm lens but on a M 4/3 system, giving me a 600mm focal length equivalent. With the Panasonic G9 it's possible using the ex telconv setting to increase this to 870 mm equivalent without too much image degradation. The handheld stabilisation makes this great for quick responses or long periods of waiting for the right shot. Subscribed.
Great video. Although the 200-600 is a very nice choice, you could also put a 2x teleconverter on a 300mm f2.8 and get a very usable 600mm f5.6. However, depending on which 300mm lens you have this might reduce the image quality or autofocus speed.
I dont know why but its always pleasent to watch your videos. Love the content and the way you deliver... Great efforts brother.....
I dont have a camera but watching your content to get ideas of my future work......
Glad to hear that mate. Appreciate it🙏🏻
Amazing and beautiful 😍 Shots
Again a very nice video!😊
I've done some "mild birding" recently just to get used to a 300/4 lens I had used literally once in 3 years, and honestly...sure I didn't get any fantastic shots of owls or anything, but I got some neat and rather "frame-filling" shots of a bullfinch-couple and a red-breasted robin (?).
I think songbirds and such are a bit easier to capture at 300mm because they're used to not being terribly far from humans.
Also being a Canon-L it's a white-ish beige lens, so...lets leave the whole "camo"-topic aside
I'm using the 200-600 for bird Photography every time since I bought it. But I would rather get a prime for better sharpness and bokeh. Thats why I'd really appreciate it, if you could do a more in depth video of the Sigma 500 f4 with the Sony cameras 😊
Yes the 200-600 is a fantastic lens!
I’ve done two videos about that setup. But will definitely do more! :)
Hi Albert buy a Rolan Pro Camo sleeve for it and add the crop mode custom button on your a7iv giving you 14mp so awesome best set up for me the dynamic range is outstanding I already get compliments I should work for Sony lol
I tested the Sigma 500 Sports adapted on my a7 III, with a 1.4x no less, and it performed very well. I have no reservations about recommending it.
@@marximus4 thanks a Lot! This is very helpful. Did you also test the AF performance for fast moving subjects like birds in flight?
Yep. I went to a place where there were bald eagles and great blue herons, and although they aren't the fastest birds on the planet, the system had no problem keeping up with the flying birds.
Nature 💚
I always thought that the f stop changes with an adapter
This is super Awesome :D
How sharp would you say that lens is? Cause if you put a x2 teleconverter on it you would get that extra reach, but there has to be a good quality glass to work with. I mean, very low chromatic aberration, ghosting and all thus stuff. I wait for your reply.
I have the Tamron 150-500 f5- f6.7
Its great. Yes 600m would be really great but it is what it is. And the combination of my Sony Alpha6400 with crop and this lens is a lot of fun. What I really like about the Tamron Lens is the focus limit of just 60centimeters. So if a bird is really close I have not the struggle to focus. That is way better than at the Sony 200-600. So I dont think I will switch. And the only thing you need for good fotos is your own creativity
thank you very much for the video the sony can be put to APC Mode that give you extra reach to 450mm 2.8 this is enough ?
Great video, some really useful, practical advice - thank you. I'm using a Nikon D500 and a Nikon 300 f2.8 - giving me aprox 450mm - which works out well. I sometimes us a 70-200 f2.8 as a 'walk around' which, also can work out fine......I certainly wouldn't want to 'walk around' with a 600mm!
Would you recommend this lens with an A7RIII and MC11? I know you said it wasn't great on the A7III but just wondered how it might fair on the RIII?
why u use 2.8? its not so sharp - on sigma>s f # better be start on 6.3 to f11(i most of the time use 7.1 to 9 on 70-200 f2.8)
That intro should have had the ocarina of time fairy vision intro music :P
I had the same setup and mc11 wasn't that good always hunt. I tried metabones and it performed a little better. But hey. It won't perform as native Lens. You may try next time sony LAEA5 with sigma or sony A mount
I started the bird photography with a 70-300 mm and I think this learn how to be silent when you try to reach the birds but I feel like I now tmreached the limits of it and I am looking for a 150-600 mm but I think it is a good lens for beginners with low budgets
Have a good day
Exelent...& Goodjob brothers...I like it
Love your videos Olle! Question, I have a 200-600, but I am looking into adding a fast non expensive tele lens for artistic type of shots with good OOF background and also to use it in low light conditions. Would you recommend buying Sigma 300/2.8 nowadays to use with Sony A7m3 + MC11?
PS. I have an old Canon 200/2.8 which I occasionally use with the same set up. I thin it is a fantastic lens, very sharp, light and compact to carry around. So perhaps 300/2.8 would be an upgrade.
Tack!
Very cool video ! Is this lense comptatible with a canon R5 ?
Reminds me of Olund❤
Thanks so much for the video Olle 👌 finally a video showing this lens that is not 8 years + old 😅
I just bought this exact lens unused and in new condition to replace my Canon 300/2.8 IS mk1 as the IS has failed somewhat and is annoying me, this one my R5 with ibis should be a wicked setup, oh and i have a canon 2x iii TC also 😃
Thanks once again for this video, loved everything about it man! 🙂
That intro bro 🤯
Thaaanks! 🚁
Grymt öppningsklipp. Och platsen du är senare i videon har man besökt ett par gånger, fint där :)
Tack! Fpv-drönare är kul😃
Jaa det är sjukt fint!
@i can't find a name Swedish :)
While I'm waiting for a bird to arrive I will pre focus and take a shot or 2 of good branches nearby to make sure my settings are ready.
I have an old pentax KR, I can only afford up to 300mm at the moment, boar and deer end up grainy and too far away,I am looking to buy a more open 2.8 soon but only at 200mm, perhaps a X2 Tele on there to make 5.6/400, and also upgrading camera to K5ii.
Bro please do a shoot with the new sony 1 mark4
Love your videos Olle! I'm planning to buy this lens and the only one I found is a nikon mount. Do you think that's going to work with the mc11 adapter on a sony body?
Can you use it for video with AF with the MC-11?
I love your videos :)
Good Sharp Lens at 300mm f4 aperture??
I owned one of these but purchased 2nd hand. I found that the focus motor had go very lazy and couldn't be compensated enough in the camera menu. Probably case specific but year really but a downer on this lens for me. Now have the 120-300 2.8 sigma sport
Great video bro❤️
Thank you!🙏🏻
I found your video because I'm using a 600mm equivalent but I often found that branches behind my subject are too intrusive. I'm shooting on Fuji X-T5 + 100-400 4.5-5.6 I was wondering if a shorter f2.8 lens could really help blurring out the background
I use a 70-300mm and its great for me, Also for bird photography💪🏼😘
Asså introt är så sinnessjukt snyggt! Kan se de om och om igen!
Tack som fasen!!😍 så kul att flyga!
Good luck
The bird sing make me sleepy
is the camo really work?
Hello Olle 👋🏻 congratulations for all your photographic and video work, I also have that lens! same identical and I use it with a7ii + MC-11 or with canon 1dx
How do you find it? I was potentially looking for the same lens to use with A7riii and Mc11. Like to hear your experience 😊
Amazing... Did you film it with Xperia?
How did you find the 300 2.8 auto focus and tracking? I use a 300 2.8 nikkor with my d500 and sometimes a 1.4x teleconverter and it is by far my go to wildlife lens. If I can't get close enough then I include the environment. Many people just want to shoot a blue tit on a branch and a portrait, but I actually find the limitations of a prime that isn't 400mm+ to challenge you creatively.
My main concern with the Sony line up is that there are absolutely no affordable 2.8 lenses in their line up, be it adapted, third party or otherwise. As far as I can tell Nikon and Canon have an incredible lens line up. I want the Sony AF / Tracking with a nice prime at a decent price. :)
💛 Great
Very nice video.
You had some fun with the thumbnail didn't ya :D
Hahah!😆
Very nice Video… thx…👏👏👏
i like your camera. ít so good
fin video.
Vad har du för inställning om du ser en fågel i toppen av ett träd med en ljus himmel som bakgrund?? Ofta blir det är väldigt mörk fågel och en vit himmel.
Tack!
Jag brukar överexponera liiiite för att få ddetaljer på fågeln!
Bra jobbat.
Tack!
beautiful :)
I just got a Cannon 300 mm f4 together with a 60d for realyyy cheap and i wad alredy Able to Capture photos of a kingfisher at around 3 meters and Theo Turned uit pretty good i would say
I have 60-600mm f/4.5-6.3 which is great but consider buying something faster for lower light conditions. f/2.8 at least 300mm or f/4 at least 400mm. I dream about 400mm f2.8 or 500mm f4. But to be honest, I dont really need it.
i want it as a dedicated e mount
Detta var bra!
Super video my friend!! As you know I use Tamron G2 150-600mm 😉
Thääänks!
Haha yup, and it sure works well!! ;)
long island ny is infested with ticks so im just waiting for winter
Hi Olle, really interesting this try. I've been using my old Sony 300mm f/2.8 SSM II with the Sony A9 at the beginnig, but I was always too short, and futhermore it doesn't work in video mode, I mean the AF, so I had to use it only in manual focus.
Yeah I totally feel ya. I remeber I wanted to film bears with the 300 in low light. Not a good combo😂 But focus peaking is a life saver.
@i can't find a name Sony
@@ollenilssonen indeed I'll use it like that
I have this lens in Canon mount. I have used it on the R6, the ibis makes it very usable. It’s ok length wise, if you used it around a feeding station you’d have gotten better results, chasing small birds around a woodland was never going to let the lens shine......................
That’s nice! Can imagine it performs well on Canon.
Since it’s spring/summer birds find food elsewhere. And ai really like the challenge of it!😃
,,,,,a cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you….
Namaste sir. I am watching your videos from Chitwan sauraha Nepal.
Is that a sigma nikon or canon fit to the mc11?
i have this lens and i bougth a sony a7iv . do you think with adapter the af its good enough for soccer photos?
Interesting and well presented video. I am not a subscriber but it interested me because I own the Fuji XF200f2, which in cropped terms is a 300/2.8. I have a sort-of love hate relationship with it for wildlife (which I only use it for). As a monster prime the image quality is fantastic but it is very short in terms of focal length. I get beautiful environmental photographs of small birds - the Fuji lens really draws colours beautifully and is eye-wateringly sharp BUT as you point out 300mm is too short unless you really are on top of the birds. At 100% crop I can produce a convincing 12x12 print but if I was using my 100-400 (600mm cropped equivalent) then I'd probably be able to go up to 24x16 and have a good print. My heart says its a keeper, my head says it is way too expensive for occasional use.