Elac Uni-Fi Reference | UFR52 Review!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- #ELAC #Unifi #Reference
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Bookshelf:
Elac Unifi 2.0: amzn.to/2OrL5RW
Elac UB5: amzn.to/3qo2msU
Elac Debut 2.0: amzn.to/3uVfWar
Elac Debut Reference: amzn.to/2OnQU2W
SVS Ultra: amzn.to/3uXIkZJ
JBL Studio 530: amzn.to/3uVagNL
Floorstanding:
Q Acoustics Concept 500: amzn.to/3ddGkEx
SVS Ultra: amzn.to/3qo2msU
SVS Prime Pinnacle: amzn.to/2MMYt2J
Elac Debut 2.0: amzn.to/3ruZRX7
Elac Unifi 2.0 UF52: amzn.to/3uXJa8P
Elac UF5: amzn.to/3e9ri4F
Triangle Borea Bro 8: adorama.rfvk.n...
PSB Alpha T20: amzn.to/3uS2swa
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It's not just Elac who sets the bar. You do to. Good to see youre back again. The equipment in the rack! I'm drooling. Nice room! Congratulations
Nice review! I wish you would do a video on how you turned your room into a listening room. Start from scratch and walk us through it…where did you put your treatments and why..and let’s hear a before and after recording comparison from pre-treatment and post treatment so we can hear the difference.
I love your reviews. I appreciate your knowledge and understanding of sound. Beyond compare, on par with Danny!😃 One thing: it is not a thoroughly explained decay pattern, or an explanation of your recording process that draws ME in. It is, rather, the dissemination of emotion and heartfelt experiences that causes ME to buy speakers. Bro, give us a little more in that area. I can’t afford most of the stuff you review. But I live for your explanations of why I should!! Outside of graphs and measures! They are tantalizing, but it’s the OOOFH, this rocked me moments I want to hear!! Love what you do!❤️
Man crushing!!!! Dear Sir. You are always entertaining and informed about how and why a speaker or amplifier, DAC, etc work in the manor that it does. You are a professional word smith you craft everything into sounds that deliver exactly how the product's would perform in a living space. Knowing what it's limited function's are and how to get the most out of the unit at it's price point is a "winner" overall.
Love the new room Ron. Everything is bigger in Texas. Room Dimensions, please. Also, the speaker distance from front and side walls. I'm also waiting for a 'holy grail' box tower speaker ( high end sound under $5k). The closest I've personally auditioned were Fyne Audio F702, but at $9k I can't afford them. Thanks Ron. It's hard for me, a 61 year old with a 42 year audio habit ( no, not hobby, but habit, as in addiction) to find truly knowledgeable reviewers on RUclips.
Dude that room is incredible, enjoy it!
Great to see a new review from NRD! These speakers seem like a nice addition to the already good Elac speaker line. The new listening room looks really good too.
Thanks John!
@@Newrecordday2013 Hey Ron, can we expect UBR62, the bookshelf version review as well......? Looking for it... as I am contemplating to buy it. You are one of the best reviewers.... Thanks in advance.....
Loved your review on the Elac DFR52 and now the UFR52. Thanks Ron!
Review aside……man, that is a killer sonic dream chamber you are listening in. The red choice……artful and well done sir.
Is that an Eames chair? If yes, comfy? Good for listening? Hifi-seating could be an entire video topic in itself, hint hint.
I had a genuine Eames Lounge chair for 6 months. It was beautiful, but wrecked my back. And I had the tall version. It’s great eye candy, but the cheap IKEA Poang chair is like having your own chiropractor by comparison.
The Eames held its value though. I got back all but the sales tax when I sold it
@@billd9667 I use IKEA Poang too. Lightweight and comfortable. Easy to move around when vacumming the floor
Actually it’s a copy/clone and love it! amzn.to/3vGDYoY
@@Newrecordday2013 Sadly, that link has been removed months ago. :/
Great review Ron, been looking forward to your thoughts and looking forward to the UBR52 review! Have a theory for you regarding that top end extension. I've never been a fan of those ridiculous metal straps manufacturers use for joining biwire posts, I'll bet you anything those are the culprit. I would bet if you have a set of high quality biwire jumpers on hand (hell, even some quality copper wiring) that if you swap out the stock straps the top end extension and air will return.
Ron - it would be beneficial if you could walk us thru what to expect from the various iterations of Elac speakers, specifically, stepping up from the Debuts (original, 2.0, Reference) and the Uni-Fi (original, 2.0, Reference) and the sound quality changes for the added $$$. It would also be good if you could include some comments on home theater use as well as 2-ch music.
I believe other reviewers have made such a video, an Elac comparison video, if you care enough to seek it out.
The right way to approach data is to go where it leads you. A quick calibration check could have been to re-test an already measured speaker in the new room, and compare measurements; if the new measurements fit the previous measurements, the room is not a factor - if there's a large delta using the new measurements when compared to the old, the new room is probably influencing the measurement results.
As it stands, I have to conclude that the UFR52's don't measure all that well compared to some other ELAC products.
Hey Ron, I would love to a thorough review of the NX-Studios. I know you had a discussion/ podcast kind of review with Danny but I think it would be interesting to see it in your "regular" review format. I feel like there is barely any information/ reviews/ impressions to find about these speakers which makes someone like me, who really want the build these, feel like taking a leap into the dark by doing so.
TLDR: Please make me buy the NX Studios
Would be really interesting to compare these with concentric KEF R5 towers
Thank you for the review Ron. Honest opinion, will you take the references over the 2.0 ? On your review on the 2.0 you seems enthusiastic about the 2.0s. thank you !!! Enjoy your new home.
Did you watch the video? I mean it's clear, he says multiple times how these Uni fi Reference speakers are significantly better than the UB52s, the 2.0s. The question you need to answer for yourself is whether it is worth the extra few hundred bucks.
I don’t know about you guys, but I particularly enjoyed the salsa.
Can I even hear 15k? These old rock and roll ears barely hear when my wife's callin' for me eh?
Welcome back. Glad you survived the move.
I'm goona comment on the room V-3..
You have a few built in problems, and while you may not know you are hearing them making effect... I'll wager you they are. Unfortunately they are built in.
The window on the left, the built in resonance generator on the right, er, I mean the cabinet with records in it. And the other resonance generator on the right, the fireplace.
The windows contribution will be high freq. noise. If you go on amazon or elsewhere, and purchase a cheap stethoscope you can use that to actually listen to the sound contributions of various stuff, speaker cabinets, windows, equipment racks, everything. It takes a bit to figure out how to use it, the key is to put it on the item then lift off, soon you will get the idea.
The cabinet and fireplace will produce resonances in the lower frequencies, you will never be able to identify their contribution specifically unless you can remove the items from the room, which you won't be able to do, obviously.
In my world I had a crappy/muddy area somewhere in the 100-200 hz realm, simply could not fix it no matter what I did to the rig or the room. Finally I decided to completely redo the back of the room, where I had cheap wood bookshelves full of books and records, just like Paul McGowen says to...
As I mentioned in another of my comments to you, play music when you do this so you can hear the effects.
I had music on when I removed the bookshelves and I listened, in real time, as the muddy bass that drove me mad for the previous year.... vanished.
If you can walk past the window outside... crank something up a bit and go outside and listen to the window. You should be able to hear the windows sound.
In my palace the windows are -non top of the line items- and likely bolted to the cinderblock... they scream, they are horrible, I discovered this via a stethoscope in one room and noticed the same scream when walking outside past a window in the big music room... When I treated the glass in the small room the highs transformed.... and I was able to remove absorption I had hanging from the ceiling that I put up to deal with high frequency noise before I learned it's source. I used 1/4" x 2" round 30 duro sorbathane pucks on the glass to dampen it's vibrations down to be in tune with the music or less... and then there is absorption over the glass... and more...
I would think a big 1/1 ratio rockwool plug for the fireplace would do. and the cabinets, that's your call, as I'm sure aesthetics will be involved.
Cheers.
after further investigation, If your measurements are right, please share your sharp condescending conclusions 🤠 speaker designers need to know when manufacturing failed to meet the designer’s intended performance objectives; this is why TVs have firmware updates to fix such flaws. ELAC should get an earful from Andrew
Fair - The community review and real life performance feedback ought to be of some value to the designers, that is .. if the designers actually care what consumers want .. or it will reveal how closed minded their business production truly is to just keep a steady stream of marginal products for consumers to feed on year over year.
Ron -You Sir are Definitely a leader in the Audiophile community. Thank you for always caring and making sure that ALL your followers understand the information you are sharing. Job well done Brother!
I think I might Mike the older 2.0s over these.
How does the polk reserve compare to the elac uni-fi referance?
If Andrew would just make some speakers like this that were higher sensitivity that would be a dream. Label them as home theater speakers say you need a subwoofer with them because they have no bass and gave them this kind of tuning I'd buy a pair immediately.
Nice to see you settled in Texas, congrats.
Nice short review. I hope listening session will follow soon with these speakers.
One thing that i would really appreciate NRD if you could mention how far you tested these speakers from each other and the angle. Andrew Jones have described in Elac unifi 2.0 manual that for best soundstage image is to toe them in up to 15 degree. Its great info if you tested like that or not.
PS i still love my unifi 2.0 towers and bookies since march this year :)
Great review... Missed your take on bass refinement, as the Cheap audio man said, he thinks the bookshelf version hits better...? Also would love it, if you could get your hands on Neat Acoustics Orketstra or even the Ministra speakers... There are little reviews out there and in any case, you are the best in my opinion...
Im hoping one day Andrew will make horn speaker that is better than TAD 4003. I promise I will buy 3 pieces😍
This is why you are one of the best ... 7:40 ... Thank you, Ron. I celebrate and support your resolute approach to this.
Congrats to NRD for getting out front on these new Elacs. I'm finding it very surprising that A. Jones is surprised that Ron measures the new Uni-Fi Ref as a little rolled off in the treble from the UF 2.0. The designer should obviously have known about this characteristic of his new speaker. What gives here ?
The new space looks great
Beautiful room!
As always great review love it thx . I did buy bro 8 after your review and had a very nice time with the bro/ iota combo but have some issue with bright top end. My question is will these speakers be a good next step/upgrade and maybe be smoother top end with iota? Thx again for any help cheers
Ron, how do these stack up against the Triangle BR08 you reviewed previously?
Hi @New Record Day a question, did you do the bookshelf version review? You said you got them, and I'm interested in your opinion, especially the difference with the towers as they have a bigger woofer if I'm not mistaken.
Congrats with your new room.
Your new room looks great BTW .. =)
Thanks Kanga!
I am happy to see you including measurements and reinforcing that they matter.
I don’t know what/who you refer to with the knucklehead comment, I will hope it isn’t ASR. It would be a big dumb mistake to call their efforts anything but extremely helpful and useful.
I must be the only person on the planet that doesn’t like the Andrew Jones sound - Pioneer and Elac days. I haven’t heard his TAD line but the Elac and Pioneer line is meah.
I'd like to upgrade from my well loved energy reference connoisseur towers. Would you say these are still tops in the 2500 and under tier? Or perhaps there is an exponential jump at 3000 ? Inquiring minds need to know Ron!! :)
Do I need a setup like that? Im thinking of an integrated with built in dac like Hegel H120 and a laptop (flac) Your room and system looks amazing
Regarding the mic calibration: are they traceable to the National Bureau of Standards? Your calibration certificate for each mic should state so .. if not, it could be the mics.
Hey Ron, great review.
Check up the gear that you used "in the description below", but can't stretch the wallet that far.
So, is there any other hybrid amp that can sound grear with de Unifi reference with a price tag lower than $2000.00?
best Integrated amp on a budget that i ever owned is yamaha A-S801 sound is unbelievable and power for days for 800 bucks
Thanks Randy! Good stuff
Andrew Jones is the best! I wish he went back to TAD!
Hi Ron, main differences between elac urf52 and polk reserve R600? Thanks
Any reviews coming up on the Focal Kanta no2? Love your reviews
Take 5 different speakers that measure ruler flat and they will all sound quite different, I can assure you. The description "Lifelike" catches my attention.
These are not in stock in my area, but the Debut Reference are. How do they compare head to head?
Currently my vintage Energys make Mark Knopfler sound like Barry White and Barry White sound like Mark Knopfler so I’m looking at these. Thx.
Welcome to Texas!
where can i get the wallet?
Great review
Yee haw. Nice review 🤠
Texas looks like it's delivered on the room and then some. Did Randy get it approved by Christopher Walken?
This or the Polk R600? Which do you prefer
I like that NRD means nerd :)
Sounds like the Reference are only an incremental improvement over the 2.0's; but at double the price and in a more attractive box. Seems like you're paying for the better looking box.... Comes down to preferring the roll-off or not. Which can be approximated using EQ or room correction curves anyway.... Best choice: get the 2.0's and use the saved money for something else... You weren't as excited about the References as you were with the 2.0 review.... Looks like the 2.0 improvement over the original UniFi's was much bigger than the Reference is over the 2.0's... So if you are coming from the original UniFi's, get the 2.0's and save your money.
Can you try out the Novus 6t tower speakers from Aperion?? I think they are close or beat the unifi 2.0 speakers.
how about uni fi reference compare to debut reference in your opinion?
Thoughts on these in a smaller room? 12X13X9 sitting 8 feet away and they would be 1 foot from wall. Am I asking for trouble with these?
You will be fine. No problem!
Read test and measure bringing those speakers into one of your smaller rooms untreated with lower ceilings like the majority of the real world will be trying do use of speakers in.
To show on your graph definitively how much a room ads or takes away in dips and peaks of the spectrum.
Yes we all know these knuckleheads out there with big egos placing reviews on RUclips who have bad rooms and poor speaker placement but yet they put out a review with bad audio room reflection information.
Keep up the good work like your videos.
The "2.0" 's aren't the original UniFi's... The UB\F5's were. .. And they remain the best ones (but you must have the power to get the magic out of them).
Nice chair!
Great review, Ron. Bravo! 👏👏👏 If I’m not mistaken, it was your first real one in TX too. Glad things seem to be going well for you, man! ✌️🎶🌝
What is on the front wall
👍👍!
what you moved again ?
For some reason I can't find your review of your Eames replica listening chair. Can you reply with the link? Thx!
Where is the X5 review?
I watched a review of another RUclipsr who also measured the speakers and his top-end didn't fall off. Could it be that you didn't get the best speaker, or maybe an outlier or one who fell through the crack in the quality control?
Was it the same tower or the bookshelf model?
@@Newrecordday2013 I'm not sure, I'll go through my history and when I find out I'll let you know, could be it was the bookshelf. But I would imagine Andrew would aim to tune them the same way.
@@Newrecordday2013 It's in the review of Joe N Tell at about 8:30 he showed a measurement graph and it looked great, no fall off at the top end. As he was talking about the towers I think he showed the tower measurement. He also talks about the bookshelves and center in the video. Maybe ask him about it, I would love to know what's up as I'm wery interested in those speakers.
@@AwesomeSauceShow Look again, Joe’s graph shows the same drop-off at 15K.
@@yoyodyneartworks4867 Yeah, there is one, but I don't know what it is, it doesn't look as pronounced, also the whole line is not as bumpy. Could it be that he uses a scale that is not a precise as Ron's?
Do floor-standing speakers need subwoofer?
Its all about your room, acoustic treatment, placement and of course hearing preferences. I personally would never buy floorstanding LS again. For my taste, my favorite Setup would be an DBA + Active Monitors + fully Room Acoustic Treatment - I dont see a lot of sense in Floorstanding Speakers
Depends who you ask and what you listen to. If you ask me my answer is almost always yes until you're in speakers costing 5 figures each with multiple 10"+ woofers that are high excursion but even then subs would still potentially help smooth out the response if you have a particularly challenging room. However it really depends on the content you listen to, as if you listen to certain genres of music that don't feature as much bass you might not miss a sub but if you're listening to bassy music then it would be a big difference or if you watch movies then you almost always want a good sub that can dig down to 20hz. Generally you want to use multiple subs to fix issues in the response then after that whatever issues you have you would fix with acoustic treatments then anything else you would attempt to fix with DSP. Anthony Grimoni talks about this in pretty good detail on audioholics YT channel, definitely worth a watch.
These are too magnified...I better go for Boston acoustics A26 any day.or tannoy..no droppings etc...anyone who has same opinion
I like the look of the new room dude. I have a question regarding it, how does the brick fireplace effect the side reflections. I have a smaller room that will be listening area with a fireplace on the right side as well.
i was wondering the same. brick is somewhat porous and not very loud when you break it apart. the fireplace face itself has a lot of variation so maybe it even has a diffusing effect.
These or the Klipsch 8000f's?
These imo
Who's the knucklehead?
Burn in might be the problem.
Burn in won’t lift a frequency response but I like where you’re headed.
Finally got rid of the overstuffed couch/sound killer. Maybe you can actually hear what you're reviewing now
I doubt it. I just make it all up anyway.
@@Newrecordday2013 Admit it, you’re not even real. You’re only a hirsute hologram, just like Randy.
The measurements and waterfall are not good. Why are we kidding here
What did you see that’s a concern?
@@Newrecordday2013 there is a 8isj db spike around 200hz and its far from linear on a 10b scale. They use 10db scale to make it look better (manufacturers) I know you shot this but change your scale to 5db. Also the waterfall has low end ringing
Uhhh I didn't understand a complete sentence through this entire video. Is this how audiophiles talk? Not even programmers, surgeons, or chaos theorists sound this complex & foreign
My 6 year old can keep up with it.
@@Newrecordday2013 maybe you could have them do the videos
@@drowningin probably more your speed, it’s not a bad idea!
@@Newrecordday2013 yeah, they probably aren't so bitter, and snappy. where did you move to in Texas? Going to come to your house bub and pew pew your family and yous head off. I bet its Austin. See you this weekend
@@Newrecordday2013 go back to Arizona dem
U-knee Fi, haha.
Sorry... I'm such an ass.
** Mike **
U apparently have no clue what you are blabing about, but its ok, 90% of people have no clue either so they are happy ...
I don't enjoy the b roll with the way overdone depth of field.
That cool, I enjoy it. Thanks for the comment.
No, "we" won't be patiently waiting. You might be, but most people can't afford $5000 speakers. Most Americans can't afford a $500 emergency.
This guy is dedicated and gives good review. Now if we could just get him to stop talking through his nose.
Are you sure that you know what you're talking about?
Steven, you strike me as the kind of gentlemen that would let me know exactly that. Thank goodness we have stevens around for that very reason.
@@Newrecordday2013 I was making light of the fact that you, obviously, have a very intellectual, technical understanding of audio which is over my head.
i.e. it was a compliment.