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Elac Uni-fi Reference Review - A New Bar Has Been Set
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
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The original UniFi's have that visceral bass too. (When powered well) - The original UniFi's are still the best value in sound. The Reference UniFi's are probably a bit better, but not by much and cost a whole lot more... If you have a 100WPC high-current amp (or higher) get the original UniFi's. You won't believe how good they are! - Accurate, detailed, powerful, balanced, and if set up properly the sound-stage is truly next level.
That fact that you got a hold of a pair means you’ve hit the big time!
Awesome review Randy! I appreciate the occasional "expensive" review, especially with a product like this, where you've covered ELAC's options that apply to the channel's premise. Gives a look at what's the next step up in the line, which some of your listeners will be interested in. Thank you!
I just bought the Uni-Fi UB52 and UC52 for the fronts in my bedroom HT. I'm really happy with them, but if these would have been an option just a few months ago, I might have choosen them.
I really like the finish on these over the UB52. Looks aren't a huge concern in my current application, but I'd still like a nicer looking speaker. I'd love to have the 6.5" woofer over the 5.25", but with an SVS SB2000+, more a luxury than need.
Reality is, these are twice the expense of my current speakers. Not sure which I would have went with, if both were options when I bought. Guess I dodged a bullet not torturing myself deciding between them!
Brown colored wood. Lol! I just finished watching Steve Guttenberg's review on these, then bang, your review popped up. Sounds like you and Steve agree on how they sound. My wife and I both enjoy watching your reviews. Maybe it's because we have the same sort of humor. I'm going to see if I can find some of that salsa before it's gone. Thanks again.
Yeah Steve's review led me hear as well.
Hey Randy, can you please let us know, from now on, how every speakers sound at low volumes, I think is one of the qualities of a speakers. Keep them coming brother 💪🏻
Excelente review, woke up this morning without knowing this existed 👏🏻👏🏻. Proud owner of the DB62 here.
As an apartment dweller, I second this motion. A lot of fine speakers really need to go to six or seven on the Spinal Tap scale before the listener begins to get a sense of depth and breadth.
One brand that tends to shine for me at lower volumes is Bowers & Wilkins. Any thoughts on the new Elacs versus B & W bookshelves near the same price point, like the 606 S2?
I'm having the same questions right now. I'm looking at mostly 6.5" bookshelves and did a demo yesterday. I'm now wondering if I want 5.25 or smaller. I want fidelity at lower volumes..
Also agreed. Fullness at low volumes is important for those of us with tinnitus. FYI, EQing the lower bass and treble up a few dB's will also improve the sound at low volumes.
@@darensweeney5925 some amps have loudness buttons that will do a +6db on the lower end for this effect at lower listening.
I just got ub52 Elacs and compared to the rp600ms can say i would rather listen to the Elacs at lower volumes. That isn't an endorsement for those being good speakers at lower volumes, just observation between the two so far.
Get a bluetube amp for 140 bucks. Your speakers will sound great even down low. Tubes do that.
Just listened to Steves review of these, and its always a great comparison between the two of you! One thing you both seemed to agree on...these are GREAT speakers!!
It’s awesome to see that ELAC has been listening to their customers!!! Fantastic review!
Great review!.....I’ve watched your channel damn near since it started. I think it’s great that you review speakers that are a “step up” for most of us. It provides good idea of what to expect from an increase or even doubling of the “affordable” price points you typically cover. I was between the UB52’s and the DBR 6’s but I think I’ll save up for these bad boys. So what if it takes awhile lol
Your reviews are getting better and better. Like the way you reference to tracks.
LS 50 killer? Third iteration of A.J's three way miraculous wonder. You can FEEL Randy's excitement. Have not seen him so enthused for quite some time!
I tried to buy a 55 gallon drum of Andrew Jone's British Salsa, but thanks to the "CheapAudioMan Effect," they are all sold out! However, they do have 50 lbs bags of Andrew Jone's British Tortilla Chips still for sale, and plenty of 1 gallon jugs of Andrew Jone's British Margarita Mix.
I really like what Andrew is doing here in regards to this design. He should get a major award just for the front porting of the speakers, which is where ports BELONG. Rear porting is the spawn of satan. If I were in the market for bookshelf speakers of this size, these would be near the top of the list. But, I would like to hear the Wharfdale EVO 4.2's as well.
You are doing an amazing job Mr. Randy. Keep up the great work!
Sweeeeeeeet! Andrew Jones is the man!🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊
Great job, Randy! I’m glad you defended your CAM realm. I was gonna mention your table. It looks like I’ve found my replacement speakers.
Randy is the officially the audio review monster 👹 no one comes close 🤣
As far as subjective reviews go you are really setting the bar for a while now. Hats off.
Exactly what I thought after having my polite and objective post censored, because it was saying that they were over 2.7K CAN dollars nowadays. The Cheap marketing man..
I rarely listen to Alice in Chains these days, but MASSIVE recognition to Toby Wright's recording and mix of that performance. Positional, clean and well defined.
Toby Wright is fantastic. The albums he worked on from the 90's sound fantastic.
Absolutely, great albums & production from that time period. I'm not a huge Pearl Jam fan, but Ten was a masterpiece of an album. Th mixing/production was stellar!
I have the UB52's and am very impressed with them as my my main movie and listening room. I'm sold on these - between Steve G's positive take and yours, I'm picking these up. My UB52's will simply move to my office music and gaming setup and serve as a nice upgrade there. AJ is simply amazing at what he does.
What are your thoughts now that you have both? Thanks!!
The fact that you recommend these as an upgrade if we already own Elac UB52 2.0' says a lot.
It’s an upgrade in every sense. Not a night snd day one but an upgrade none the less.
AWESOME!! It checks all the boxes. My only issue is the price. At that price, I’d actually cross shop several respectable towers, such as ELAC’s own reference series DFR52, the Polk Reserve R500, SVS prime towers, and Emotiva T2+.
Glad I've spent months sitting on my hands, trying to decide...these win!
Did you get them? What do you think of them? Thanks!
@@benfarrow9498 Not yet. I've bogged down trying to decide about amplification. Meanwhile, Jones leaves ELAC & I'd like to know where he is going to land. I've set up my old Advents to hold me over 😳
Great review! Gonna keep an eye out for deals on this new Elac line
I'm dying at the "tripping over..." part! My man, you are REAL! Great review!
Andrew Jones does make something magical
Great salsa!
@@rc6717 I think he has a budget to work within, he try’s his best to make something good within those constraints. What’s your opinion on best budget speaker?
@@rc6717 Better speaker for the price ?
Great review
I have the Debut reference.
Heard the Uni Fi 2 UB52.
Now the Uni Fi reference is here 👍
I prefer Elac over Wharfedale.
Great to see this review. Well done.
I would like to see a comparison to the Wharfedale Evo 4.2. Also $1,000, also 3-way, and also relatively large. In terms of aesthetics Wharfedale is serious competition if it sounds decent.
Also, I would love to see a comparison between this vs. your favorite $500 speaker + $500 subwoofer pairing.
Also, speaker reviews that include an AVR are useful to more people. Is a Denon X3500h, which people can usually pick up for about $500 on sale, enough to drive this?
Hello Brian,
I have the Denon x3500h. It is plenty powerful to drive either one and probably pairs pretty well with wharfedale or elac given they are laid back. To my ears the Denon seems to give a bit of a v shape sound and it crossed over my elac higher than my Yamaha receiver which I didn't like.
I turn the LFC up for music listening with my JBL studio 580 or the bass is overpowering.
I do like the Denon but I think you need to be careful what you pair it with.
I particularly wouldn't pair it with anything bright like Klipsch and probably not svs or jamo from what Randy said about them. Yamaha works well with bright speakers.
Thanks for this! Andrew Jones did the right thing getting these to you early.
i can't wait to hear what danny ritchie has to say when he cracks these open and sees the duct tape and juicy fruit wrapper crossovers.
Great review Randy! I'm ordering 5 - 55 gallon drums of Andrew Jones' British Salsa. Total @$5/drum will be $25! WOOHOO! 👍
Eagerly waiting for a Saturday speaker shootout now between the CSS and GR Research. No hurry. I’m not spending anymore this year. I’m still enjoying the UB 5.2 so much and when I want a little more warmth the Debut Reference.
Thank Andrew for holding the accountants feet to the fire. Good looking speaker.👍
Great review Randy😀
Great review buddy. Been waiting for these for a while. Glad to see they don't disappoint!
Please compare it to the Debut Reference! 🤟🏻
These speakers are great! I have the UBR 62 and they actually smoke my Klipsch rp6000f towers in every category except bass. To be fair, I'm in a small 1 bedroom apt that might be too small for the Klipsch. The soundstage, imaging, and clarity are so nice. They are also way less fatiguing than my Klipsch...But once again the room is too small for the towers. I will eventually get a subwoofer for just some rumbling during movies though. I likey!
I was afraid of being burned because I bought the JBL stage A130s a while back and was disappointed with them, these Elacs are worlds better, as they should be considering the price.
Been a subscriber for a few months. This is the best review, bcoz it saved me a lot of time, and I get the sonic qualities clearly from you. It did contain a lot of slosh and waffling this time round. Description about how great a particular music/song is to you may not translate the same juice/mojo for other people, but some reviewers goes on and on and on and on... The review is about the speaker, the amplifer, the dac, the whatever--so make it so. I'm going to check out the price of the uni-fi ref now. Thank you Sir.
I like the brown wood colour. I listened to higher love, Steve Winwood and liked the percussion , that reminded me of an Eels track, Hospital Food. Now that was percussion. Added to my show reel play list as it sounds fantastic, with or without salsa sauce.
Not making available a black colour is an interesting decision, and the floorstanders are double the price at $2k! Which is an even more interesting decision.
Thank you for that. I have the Elac Debut 6.2s which I bought because I didn't know if I would get much use from them. Turns out now I listen every night and at some point I will upgrade, I think it will be these.
What do you think about these at lower volumes ?
These speakers may be braced well; but your table is rickety as all get out!!! Great review. The cough! Had a similar experience with the Debut 2.0 B6.2! I got up an looked around the house looking for who came in and coughed! Can’t wait to get these.
Dude, it's ok. It's a reflection on the other Elac products so we are ok with it. Thanks for the review..
Nice review.
I'm gonna look at these when they arrive here in Sweden.
I was so during if he would ever make a reference version!!! Thank you!! Elac and it's pretty
1st time viewer here, Excellent review. Sounds like Mr. Jones has another hit. Looking forward to hearing them at music direct in Chicago.... hopefully! Like your ultralight analogy! I also listen with my ears not some damn computer. Or my speakers occupying the same space as my coffee table.
Wow! That's quite an endorsement. I totally relate to your assessment of clarity/body
balance. I have the Debut Reference and they are pretty darn good for the money but
I must admit .... these new Uni-Fi(s) are now extremely tempting. Andrew Jones has done it again.
( I heard he also dabbled in English mushy peas - you only need to have them ONCE)
Another great video Cheapaudioman. These new Elac speaker are nice looking. I think I'm going to give them a try.
Ohhhhh man I've been waiting for this one!! Before watching the video I'm planning on getting the css criton. Let's see if I change my mind
It looks amazing
don't
@@joeygonzo probably right. ive been working it through my head between the r200, uf52 and this ufr62... regardless of price the criton is still probably better.
randy, a saturday shootout with these new Elacs, and the critton and the encores would be epic
Yes, a shootout would be great. I would throw some Kef Q150 or Q350 in there as well...
How does it sound at lower (apartment volumes)? Does it retain a nice linear sound from bass to mids to highs?
Thanks Randy for the review, Now i have another speaker to evaluate between the Polk R200 and the Elac Uni Fi Reference. So many great speakers to listen too ...hopefully I can make a decision on a purchase.
I would choose Elac.
Looks like you're top of the queue. Amazing. Are they worth the money Randy? A worthy upgrade from the other elac options? What's their competition in your mind?
@21:00
In the video, he stated that they are worth the upgrade if you already on the Elac UB52 2.0's. That says a lot about these reference speakers.
@@Feliciano12v Indeed, it does. Doth? Doth. Does.
Wait until you try the James B Lansing guacamole!
I think based on your closing comments, I'll go with the Critons. Value bass tone, texture and quantity. Plus need a second pair and already own the UB52 and the second pair should not have the same sort of sound signature even though the reference is the UB52 with of a bit more of everything.
I like your slightly quirky style of presenting been looking for some speakers in a small bedroom and this vid showed up thanks YT algo
Finally a good looking Elac speaker...I would have make them even more attractive without the black or white front, just all wood like the most beautiful spekaers of all times ...those from the 70's!
WANT
Dang it, I was sooo excited, right up to the 1,000 bucks! Really makes me wonder about the reality of Buchhardts, Kefs, etc. costing 2 grand and up. If you say these are truly a 1,000 speaker, I believe it!
This is the first time I am watching your video, good job. Thsnks
Subscribed :) A nice style of review that i like.
Been waiting for this review!!! 👍👍👍
You got the scoop on this one, congrats! Nice speakers, but for $1000 I wish they had a real wood veneer or a painted finish. Still, it's Elac, they will go on sale eventually.
Nice presentation? I only need a good matching amp.
So are these as good as the Emotiva T2+
Seeing how both Debut Reference and these share the same size woofer, which impresses you the most with bass, assuming no subwoofer will be in use? Does one dig a little deeper or have more bass presence in general? I'm still clutching my original Debuts because nothing recent has had what they have.
I have 4 unifi slims and love them great review Im looking for an amp. curious if youve heard about the Cambridge Audio AXR100 under 500 apparently Cheers
At first sight from thumbnail, i thought why are you talking about Elac with some Wharfedale diamond 12 series.
Don't worry you are ChiefAudioman now no more cheap title we all have fun with your channel Randy you're awesome Cheers.
Looking forward to this one!
Damn. That light plane is going to have to wait. Was the Denver model. Great review
Still within the Amazon return period for the UB52. I'm definitely returning them and get these!
The juicy fruit wrapper comment got me.
AWESOME review. I shall have to give them a listen. Bold words saying they beat Kef LS50s in both sound and price. But they are 1000/pair... so now they are Vs other very impressive speakers. B&W 606s2, Goldenear Aeon 2 or 3, Quad s2, Buchardt S300 mk2. While I liked the Elac speakers I have heard... to me ALL of them were missing some "livelyness" that I heard in B&W and Quad; so I can not wait to hear these.
B@w sound a bit sharp to me other than their earbuds which sound warm and nice but have connection issues.
No polk comparison?
Dang man . I really like the look of these Elacs. They look really sharp !! I probably would have gotten these over the new Polk Reserve r 200s. The Polks are heavy too at 19.3 pounds. I bet these weight about the same. Wow these weight 23.54. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’d have to check but that was the first thing I noticed when I pulled them out of the box
@@cheapaudioman nice bro. I like how the Polks came in a black cloth bag with heart stickers lol 😆 did these come wrapped too ?
Hi, my biggest question is can a Denon 600ne amplifier handle these, thanks for the review. They look great. I was thinking of buying the Monitor audio bronze 100 but, now i wonder 🤔
I bought the Debut F5 to replace my Sony SSCS5 bookshelf speakers. I spent 3 weeks trying to love them, but the Sonys beat them every time I A/B tested them so I returned them. if you want to try an Andrew Jones speaker you don't like, maybe you'll hate the F5 like I did 👍
Ha. Some of his early speakers were rolled off on top and if you love sparkle they wouldn’t be for you for sure. This doesn’t lack anything on top at all. They debut 6.2 and 5.2 really brought up the top end.
@@cheapaudioman Yes, I'm a sucker for sparkly tweeters.
Why am I at work now? I just wanted to pull the trigger on the UB52. Can't wait to get home to watch the review.
Looks like B&W and similar higher priced speakers now have dangerous competition, yes? I'm guessing these are still about half the price of similar B&W speakers but have almost the same sound. Any thoughts out there? Thank you for the great review! - (happy dbr62 reference owner). Also own B&W's.
I have the Unifi UB52's. IS this worth the jump? ON some tracks with low bass I get some port chuff from one of the UB52s which is odd because the other one does not do this, has me concerned there's an issue...
In this video along with a few others with these speakers, you’ve mentioned they require a bit more power than other speakers. The 2 amps you mention in this video are hugely different in power delivery (20w and 160w). I don’t want the thin bass you mentioned from the 20w amp. But I don’t want to have a huge 160w amp on my desk. How much is enough to get full sound out of these? 40w, 60w, 100w? Do you have a recommendation for an amp that would be used exclusively with these speakers?
On a live stream he answers that 50w is minimum he would recommend, but 100w would be better. The speakers are 6ohm.
Something tells me that KEF is not going to send Randy any new speakers!🤔🤔🤫🤭😇😉 And I'm pretty sure he's 1000% right in what he said.😬
You, sir, are the finest human being on this side of the planet.
Great review again! Not long ago you reviewed the beautiful Sonus lumina 2 Amator. Any thought on how the Elac UniFi Reference compares to those?
very different sounding. the elacs are way way warmer with less top end excitement. they hit way harder though as expected
Good to know for a matching amplifier. I hope the Lumina 2 Amator with a new cross over have a more balanced frequency response and tamed top end than their cousins Lumina 2. Thanks for the reviews. Greatly appreciated.
Have you considered reviewing the Kali Audio IN series speakers? Those are 3-way concentric design like this one and is generally well-received. Should be an interesting comparison.
Great information, thanks. I'm on the fence re: buying this speaker. My only concern is whether my NAD C700 hybrid streaming amp at 80 Watts per channel is enough to bring the woofers to life at low to moderate sound levels. The unity UB 52 is also on my short list. Do you think the UB 52 would be a better fit with the NAD C700? I hope you have time for an answer. Thanks in advance.
Randy - so honest and no nonsense
Thanks for great reviews!! I need your expert opinion! What about ELAC Carina BS243.4!? It has a jet twitter. But what are the better speakers overall!? Elac Uni-fi Reference or Carina BS243.4?
Hi, just watched your review of this speaker. If you have any contacts with Kali, it would be great to see a review of Kali In8v2 studio monitor. They are similiar to these Elac's but with 3 amps built into the speaker plus they have unbalanced RCA -10db allowing easy connection to home av equipment. I enjoy your channel. Thank you.
I’m jonesing for some salsa with my chips. Would be delicious with some Burr-Brown.
Great review.
I think an all black gloss or white gloss would look great.
Thanks!
You bet! thanks so much for supporting the channel
Is there any other good value amp for this speakers? I cant got the amp from indonesia 😕
Damn, and I just built a Dolby Atmos setup with all Uni-Fi 2.0's. This is what I WISHED those were.
Does ELAC take trade-ins?
I wish they could hide the screws. Otherwise, perfection!
I actually like the screws. Sturdy look overall.
Black background. Didn't notice them.
Great video, Randy! I gotta coupla question for you~~
I’m a retired cabinetmaker, so building a kit should be no problema~~
Do you like the sound of the Encore XLS better than the Elac UniFi Reference?
If you had a $1,000 budget, what pair of speakers would you buy?
I’ve got the 1st gen Elac B6~~how do these compare?
Also, are you selling the Andrew Jones Salsa?
Thanx, and keep up the good work! Richard
So the encores will have the appearance of more treble presence. I think the encores can almost become fatiguing. Almost. The uni is one of the most balanced speakers I’ve ever heard. If you want some coloration towards the treble the encore is probably the choice. If you want coloration towards the bass the css Criton makes sense. If you want extreme neutrality and realism then the Elac is the choice.
@@cheapaudioman thanks so much for pinpointing the subtle differences between these speakers!
I tried a pair of kef LS50 I thought they were awful forward and bright I think most good bookshelf speakers are better than the ls50
Hey! We used to own Speaker City!!!
🤯 👍👍💪💪👏🏻👏🏻❤️Let me first start off by saying you have mixed and matched the decks the streamers and the amplifiers in the exact order that I wanted them to be reviewed totally amazing way to go can I say I love you without being offended🥰😍🥰😘🌹🌹🌹
It's been a year, do you still like these speakers?
Randy, would you recommend a sub with these for a 12x12 bedroom? If one is not needed, it would surely justify the extra cost. I’m not a bass head but do love properly executed bass. The way you describe these i think adding a sub may be more trouble than it’s worth in a room that small.
I can tell you I use a Rel tzero sub in a 10x10 room with my UB52 2.0 and it really makes the mids and treble sound improve
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