I’ve already spent over $10,000 on my TD-50 (with extra pads and stuff) now they Finally have the VH-14D and more sounds! Time to save up some money again!
Great review. I'd like to know what the 'room' volume of these is compared to the normal Vdrums. Seems like the full depth acoustic shells would make them louder?
Love his overview of the pricing and pricing of all the options. His in-depth explanation of how your existing custom TD-50 kits or any that are being sold for the existing TD-50 will not work with the TD-50X or the TD-50 with the new upgrade. 🤔
Me hears a lick from Dance of Eternity. 😁 Fantastic video! Many thanks. Would LOVE to hear more about those digital hats. How are they vs. the VH-13? Do they have 360 triggering? And did you say you could preload Superior Drummer kits into the module? How does that work?
@Any RD Roland use samples recorded in studios for their modules like any other company. The difference is the amount of customization you can apply to those sounds through the modeling engine. The modeling engine does not create the sound, it only processes it to change its characteristics if you wish it. You can use the sounds without any modeling.
I am considering purchasing these but not sure if they'd fit in my living room. What size is that rug you've got under? Much appreciated! Great videa by the way!
Funny how static a kit can sound in 2021, with all possibilities of smart voice allocation available. It doesn't matter how much painted maple there is on the stage if what comes out still sounds like a machinegun on steroids. Roland: It's time to up your game and use at least 64 round robins on every sample. Memory is cheap and you have the know-how.
just looking for a new acoustic kit, but this really is a game changer. Would be tempted to put acoustic cymbals with it but having said that they do sound like the real deal. Im guessing you can program any make of cymbal you like? Im guessing practise time would expand too as you're not upsetting the neighbours at all!
07:20 I was wondering about that! They look so much better without those rubber rings. A bit louder (when you hit the rims) though, I imagine. But you likely aren't hitting many (intentional) rim shots on the toms anyway.
So 400+ more sounds is completely redesigned? Sounds like a td50 with 400 extra sounds and an x in my book, glad the td50 owners can upgrade to the x with an update.
What is the sound volume of this kit unplugged? I am wondering how much louder it is than the Roland TD-50 unplugged. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Did you ever find out? I'd like to know too. Need a quiet 'unplugged' sound when playing through headphones. I've seen a few videos on the normal vdrums. Seems like these would be much louder due to the shell depth etc.
Frustratingly, I have not heard a word. I read on a thread elsewhere that the kick drum was fairly loud and carried throught the floor (although that could be muffled if you put a dampening material. underneath it), but othetwise it was relatively quiet. I have no idea ift he author of this comment was speaking from personal experience or how reliable the info was. I'm disappointed that I heard nothing back from my original post. Please let me know if you learn anything more.@@mikestoneclark F
@@jonslater4714 Yes, I've learned a ton. I bought a VAD 706 kit. The bass drum is LOUD. No, not as loud as a true acoustic bass drum but it is loud. I love the kit but wish the bass drum was quiet. I did pull off the head and put thicker (2") foam on the backside, and wrapped the inner shell w/2" acoustic foam as well. It didn't make any difference lol.
Could you share your thoughts on the acoustic sound of the VH-14D? Especially the sounds when opening and closing to beat. Does it have the same loud “Clop” sound the VH-13 has? Thanks!
They do "clop" a bit, but the acoustic sound they make isn't as loud as the 13's. Due to them being thinner, they don't have as much mass to make the acoustic sound. Hope this helps - Murdoch
@@bettermusic You're the first retailer reviewer that actually had an input on this!!! vh13s are pretty freaking loud, I hope my local stores get them in soon
@@1rcproductions plot twist: my initial payment was rejected for whatever stupid reason. So I settled for this like $600 drum kit lol. It’s whatever. I wish I could get my kidney back though.
Real wood 🪵 maple outside thin layer for ascetic, over six layers of sound deadening hard and other material. But, it's nice that Roland is getting closer to using substance instead of hyperbolic symbolism and dramatic version for amazing, dynamic range of extraordinary features that take you into the the next level of primal feeling. The rest of you that are watching all this unfold over the years and even with the other reviews know what I mu inference is .
@@sixstringsamurai77 from Roland, hard wood shells with a stained maple veneers and transparent gloss coats. Some reviews are saying seven ply compressed hardwood plies, some saying popular but, the specs of if it is plies or pressed wood has changed and Roland hasn't put definitive information 🤔
Top of the line kit and it still has a module with crappy unrealistic sounds. so you have to go out and buy superior drummer or something to get great sounding acoustic kits, and the module is totally redesigned lol, and it has the same small little worthless screen, the white would've been nicer if it was white pearl, I am happy about the digital hi hat, but common Roland, is it so hard to have a bunch of incredible sounding realistic drum sets right out of the box with no adjustments necessary. and why not give the option of buying this kit with the 27 module. like a VAD 506 with the new hi hat, and a color other than black.
A quand une vraie démo avec un jeu subtile, du groove, de l'expression, bref un vrai jeu de batterie et pas du 4/4 bourrin que l'on entend à chaque démo.
So just throwing this out there... maybe I’m wrong for thinking this but if Roland is gonna go the extra mile to make it look like a real acoustic set... why not paint the cymbals to look real cymbals instead of the black? 🤷🏽♂️🙄
HART Dynamics did that about 20 years ago. The paint flaked off and the cymbals felt like you were hitting frisbees. You couldn't do cymbal swells, either. The rubber on the Roland's actually do make it feel quite a bit more like hitting a metal cymbal, at least for crashes. HARTs ride was actually metal with white foam on the strike zone, and that one looked more realistic.
still machine gun toms.. stil crap cymbal sounds.. prices WAY above any reason. Are they kidding me. 5 mics on my acoustic kit sounds way better. My electronic kit with an ancient TD-12 as controller and SD3 as sound engine blows this out of the water. Sad but true.
These are always the weirdest elitist claims ever. They are LITERALLY samples of real drums and cymbals. They CAN'T sound like shit because they're real drum sounds. And you realize there are endless kits from which you can choose the type of kit you like. right? The sounds & dynamics are there so any claim that they sound bad is unfounded. You can keep on claiming they don't "feel" right if you like but people who continue to claim that these kits don't sound good just sound like whiners. I'm sure your mid-range kit mic'd up in your spare room sounds so much better.
@@nigelallistair The toms sound like a completely shit, machine-gunning, nightmare. "They CAN'T sound like shit" is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a while.
you have played the dance of eternity as well as anesthetize! i caught you man :D
I’ve already spent over $10,000 on my TD-50 (with extra pads and stuff) now they Finally have the VH-14D and more sounds! Time to save up some money again!
Damn!!
@@donaldtrump4206 damn he’s rich 🤑
If you bought the TD50 in 2021, you can get the TD50X upgrade for free.
WOW!! Beautiful drum 💯
Oh man, if I had a billion dollars to spare.. sweet!
Would you buy 100000 of them?
Great review. I'd like to know what the 'room' volume of these is compared to the normal Vdrums. Seems like the full depth acoustic shells would make them louder?
Lovely stuff brother!
Love his overview of the pricing and pricing of all the options. His in-depth explanation of how your existing custom TD-50 kits or any that are being sold for the existing TD-50 will not work with the TD-50X or the TD-50 with the new upgrade. 🤔
Me hears a lick from Dance of Eternity. 😁
Fantastic video! Many thanks. Would LOVE to hear more about those digital hats. How are they vs. the VH-13? Do they have 360 triggering?
And did you say you could preload Superior Drummer kits into the module? How does that work?
yeah that dance of eternity section put a smile in my face :)
@Any RD Roland use samples recorded in studios for their modules like any other company. The difference is the amount of customization you can apply to those sounds through the modeling engine. The modeling engine does not create the sound, it only processes it to change its characteristics if you wish it. You can use the sounds without any modeling.
I really wish you’d demonstrate the hihat more thoroughly by itself, especially the ability to change the pitch by pressing harder
I am considering purchasing these but not sure if they'd fit in my living room. What size is that rug you've got under? Much appreciated! Great videa by the way!
These are amazing.... If only I had a cool 11K (CAD) laying around somewhere.
Plus tax. 😁
With that v-neck, a bit dissapointed didn't do some Periphery.
Nice demo btw.
When was this drumkit announced? I had no idea they were bringing a new flagship to the VAD series, what was the reason for it?
The rim rings also dampen the shock that causes the heads to loosen.
I knew they were going to make a digital hi hat!
Is that fill on 02:00 from Dream Therater "Scene froma a memory part II"? Think so ;) amazing to hear with this drum set!
It sounds like Dance of Eternity!
Are you going to review a Strata Prime? If you've already played it, what do you prefer, VAD706 or Strata?
Funny how static a kit can sound in 2021, with all possibilities of smart voice allocation available. It doesn't matter how much painted maple there is on the stage if what comes out still sounds like a machinegun on steroids. Roland: It's time to up your game and use at least 64 round robins on every sample. Memory is cheap and you have the know-how.
It straight up doesn’t sound good. Blatantly electronic.
Stock kits are always shit. Edrum Workshop has some great kits with samples.
I bought it, on July 4. Still waiting. Supply chain argh!!!
It would have served better had you played the “many different sounds” that you talked about. Otherwise, very impressive and thank you!!!
Is this cool high hat fully compatible with the VAD506 in TD27 model?
yess! the VH14D is compatible with td27
just looking for a new acoustic kit, but this really is a game changer. Would be tempted to put acoustic cymbals with it but having said that they do sound like the real deal. Im guessing you can program any make of cymbal you like? Im guessing practise time would expand too as you're not upsetting the neighbours at all!
The kit is incredibly flexible, so any combination of sound you could want is in the box
07:20 I was wondering about that! They look so much better without those rubber rings. A bit louder (when you hit the rims) though, I imagine. But you likely aren't hitting many (intentional) rim shots on the toms anyway.
So 400+ more sounds is completely redesigned? Sounds like a td50 with 400 extra sounds and an x in my book, glad the td50 owners can upgrade to the x with an update.
What is the sound volume of this kit unplugged? I am wondering how much louder it is than the Roland TD-50 unplugged. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Did you ever find out? I'd like to know too. Need a quiet 'unplugged' sound when playing through headphones. I've seen a few videos on the normal vdrums. Seems like these would be much louder due to the shell depth etc.
Frustratingly, I have not heard a word. I read on a thread elsewhere that the kick drum was fairly loud and carried throught the floor (although that could be muffled if you put a dampening material. underneath it), but othetwise it was relatively quiet. I have no idea ift he author of this comment was speaking from personal experience or how reliable the info was. I'm disappointed that I heard nothing back from my original post. Please let me know if you learn anything more.@@mikestoneclark F
@@jonslater4714 Yes, I've learned a ton. I bought a VAD 706 kit. The bass drum is LOUD. No, not as loud as a true acoustic bass drum but it is loud. I love the kit but wish the bass drum was quiet. I did pull off the head and put thicker (2") foam on the backside, and wrapped the inner shell w/2" acoustic foam as well. It didn't make any difference lol.
I want to play that very last part on my drum set .. really awesome .. do you have a drum note for it or for any of the examples you demonstrated?
Good to hear an Aussie accent. Sound like a Melbourne accent.
When you playing that straight 4/4 the snare sounded like a wooden box.
Glad I didn't get the VAD506, this is way nicer. That being said it is way pricier, too. Wonder what "street price" we can expect on these
8K
Could you share your thoughts on the acoustic sound of the VH-14D? Especially the sounds when opening and closing to beat. Does it have the same loud “Clop” sound the VH-13 has? Thanks!
They do "clop" a bit, but the acoustic sound they make isn't as loud as the 13's. Due to them being thinner, they don't have as much mass to make the acoustic sound. Hope this helps - Murdoch
@@bettermusic thanks Murdoch!
@@JorgeParagliding you can actually hear it clob at 1:16 ruclips.net/video/S0R6Pk7x1Kk/видео.html - sounds familiar - exactly as my VH-12 :)
@@bettermusic You're the first retailer reviewer that actually had an input on this!!! vh13s are pretty freaking loud, I hope my local stores get them in soon
Man. Great controller, but the sounds just don’t stack up against addictive drums, get good, slate, ez etc.
If only I could win the lottery…
Billie Jean 3:07
I’m gonna say more like, “Hella Good”...
i suspect maple veneer and lots of saw dust. At least with KD-220 it was all maple and could convert back to acoustic
It’s 8-ply maple
Does this thing can quantize drums while playing ?
No, this will live trigger the minute you make contact.
Simply 7000 bucks!!! ÜBEP
Dance of Eternity?
and anesthetize by PT as well :D
whats the point of all them paradiddles... if you can't lift a bloody beam!
Just bought mine today! Cost me a kidney but definitely worth it!
Can you tell me where you sold your kidney as I want to purchase one of these as well? 😁
@@1rcproductions plot twist: my initial payment was rejected for whatever stupid reason. So I settled for this like $600 drum kit lol. It’s whatever. I wish I could get my kidney back though.
@@theanonymouscat5062 lol. Pretty sure I saw one for sale on Craigslist. 😁
whats the difference between VAD 506?
This kit has different shell materials/colours, an upgraded control unit, includes the new digital hi hat and a few little tweaks for quality of life.
It’s about double the price. The 706 is super premium but the 506 will suit nearly every drummers needs
Real wood 🪵 maple outside thin layer for ascetic, over six layers of sound deadening hard and other material. But, it's nice that Roland is getting closer to using substance instead of hyperbolic symbolism and dramatic version for amazing, dynamic range of extraordinary features that take you into the the next level of primal feeling. The rest of you that are watching all this unfold over the years and even with the other reviews know what I mu inference is .
It's 8-ply maple
@@sixstringsamurai77 can you give a source? Or did I miss the jole?
@@sixstringsamurai77 from Roland, hard wood shells with a stained maple veneers and transparent gloss coats. Some reviews are saying seven ply compressed hardwood plies, some saying popular but, the specs of if it is plies or pressed wood has changed and Roland hasn't put definitive information 🤔
eheheheh dance of eternity
Love it but $8k is a hard pill to swallow
Top of the line kit and it still has a module with crappy unrealistic sounds. so you have to go out and buy superior drummer or something to get great sounding acoustic kits, and the module is totally redesigned lol, and it has the same small little worthless screen, the white would've been nicer if it was white pearl, I am happy about the digital hi hat, but common Roland, is it so hard to have a bunch of incredible sounding realistic drum sets right out of the box with no adjustments necessary. and why not give the option of buying this kit with the 27 module. like a VAD 506 with the new hi hat, and a color other than black.
Man what’s up with how shitty edrums sound ??
A quand une vraie démo avec un jeu subtile, du groove, de l'expression, bref un vrai jeu de batterie et pas du 4/4 bourrin que l'on entend à chaque démo.
Still my main issue with Vdrums: looks top, sounds flop. Needs Steven Slate or Superior Drummer plugins, otherwise sounds terrible
Check out Pearl Mimic Pro. It uses Steven Slate Drums ;)
@@Jaysck_ I way just about to suggest the pearl mimic pro
The Roland logo on the cymbals should be away from you
hehehehhe first thing I've seen.
I think any mid-experienced electronic drummer knows that :)
@@imnsane91 not this guy
I highly doubt everything you've saying, it's like its coming from a Roland Sales Guy.
At only $8,000.00 what a deal🤨At least it finally has a color screen on the module,oh wait no it doesn't,WTF is Roland doing?
still sounds mediocre compared to superior drummer
Where the bloody hell are my Bitcoin shares,where?
So just throwing this out there... maybe I’m wrong for thinking this but if Roland is gonna go the extra mile to make it look like a real acoustic set... why not paint the cymbals to look real cymbals instead of the black? 🤷🏽♂️🙄
Paint wears off and the black they use in the colour adds to the strength of the cymbal. It's a nice idea, but sadly unpractical.
HART Dynamics did that about 20 years ago. The paint flaked off and the cymbals felt like you were hitting frisbees. You couldn't do cymbal swells, either. The rubber on the Roland's actually do make it feel quite a bit more like hitting a metal cymbal, at least for crashes. HARTs ride was actually metal with white foam on the strike zone, and that one looked more realistic.
still machine gun toms.. stil crap cymbal sounds.. prices WAY above any reason. Are they kidding me. 5 mics on my acoustic kit sounds way better. My electronic kit with an ancient TD-12 as controller and SD3 as sound engine blows this out of the water. Sad but true.
These are always the weirdest elitist claims ever. They are LITERALLY samples of real drums and cymbals. They CAN'T sound like shit because they're real drum sounds. And you realize there are endless kits from which you can choose the type of kit you like. right? The sounds & dynamics are there so any claim that they sound bad is unfounded. You can keep on claiming they don't "feel" right if you like but people who continue to claim that these kits don't sound good just sound like whiners. I'm sure your mid-range kit mic'd up in your spare room sounds so much better.
@@nigelallistair this kit sounds like shit and blatantly electronic.
@@nigelallistair The toms sound like a completely shit, machine-gunning, nightmare. "They CAN'T sound like shit" is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a while.
No
:(