Sauron was in fact the second in command to the first Evil Lord. When his boss fell, he took over management. So yeah, an evil blacksmith with a business major.
fiction Arch The Dark Lord Morgoth, or Melkor when the world was created. He basically waged war against the Christian god and almost destroyed all of middle earth.
Morgoth was more powerful on the beginning but he lost all his power after throwing it away on pointless malice and hid in his fortress for millenia while Sauron ran his empire took over after his death and took far longer to eventually be defeated. So, Morgoth was more powerful, but Sauron was much smarter
As a book nerd I’m just sitting here wondering what the logistics are for resurrecting things that aren’t dead. And also where “resurrection” even comes from in middle earth
@@Littlemike137 well as far as i can tell the elves effectively reform somehow in mandos, dwarfs, maybe too, they think so at least. Humans maybe maybe too, but whatever they then leave the universe. Beren went somewhere and was sent back again somehow, can't remember exactly what happened after dying getting the silmaril. The elves can come back if they want, i guess through valinor. while the dwarfs apparently reincarnate, at least durin, or at least it might be implied that he does.
From what I remember of the Silmarilion calling Sauron a "persuasive middle management blacksmith who just wants the world to be more organized" is pretty accurate.
Literally what he was in Númenor. Using marketing and persuasion convinced most of the population to join Church of Morgoth Inc. And it was success, untill they tried to sail to the Heaven, which resulted in the end of Flat Earth.
As opposed to “half republic half aristocracy of the Shire”? How do you think all but one of the book's main hobbits lived that well, ate that damned much, and did nothing except when bored? Huge permanent underclass with no options outside roles dictated by birth family, either directly or dictated by higher births "for the community". Frodo knew Sam from Bilbo's bloody garden as Sam's father aged out of competence, and Sam was going to replace him because that's how it worked. "Master Frodo", indeed...
@@Endoptic symbolically the Shire represented Tolkien views of traditional British culture. While Mordor represented his views of the modern age. So the whole dynamic between the two was nostalgia for a simpler time
Puffin: "I reall do not know that much about Sauron..." Then he procceeds to make a really accurate depiction of how Sauron is in terms of his ultimate goals. Sauron and Saruman were symbolism for the industialization of the world that Tolkien grew up with. So yeah evil CEO is a really accurate portrayal of Sauron
@@albertschoise8091 yeah he disliked IT when other people tried to interpretate his work. But ofcause his life experince was important for his work. For example WW1 was a huge inspiration for him.
Sauron as a litigious bureaucrat obsessed with paper work and micro management is actually extremely accurate to Tolkien’s vision of the character. Congrats.
I don’t know, I’m seeing this comment repeated about a thousand times, but I don’t see how you can read Tolkien’s description of Sauron or his story that way. There are certainly parallels with Saruman’s story and the rise of industrialization and ecological spoliation that followed, but while Sauron’s story had the latter, it was more mindless and didn’t track with corresponding technological advancement. And where does the bureaucracy and micro come from? Is this in the Unfinished Tales somewhere? It’s certainly not in the Silmarillion.
@@keoghanwhimsically2268 Sauron was originally a maiar who was pretty into order, and was only led to Melkor because he saw the power he had as a way to create order. His fall from grace stemmed from his desire to basically bring order to everything. I think this was in some of Tolkiens letters.
@@thallan Wait, paying FOR an internship? I think the others were implying you should be *paid* for your time, even as an intern. Because y'know, folk need to subsist while contributing their time to the gain of a company, albiet at a less competitive rate when the position is provided to a less qualified person for teaching purposes.
"Sauron doesn't have scenes where he's talking in the film." Don't you remember? He said "I SEEEEEEEEE YOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!" And then at the end he was all "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!"
@@majikkarp177 He made the three Elven Rings secretly, but Sauron oversaw the creation of all the others, even if he himself did not personally make them.
He's literally the embodiment of the god of darkness's will. He's a necromancer, a liche, and a sorceror of great power...well evil blacksmith is close I guess 😑😑😑.
So you turned a peaceful landscape with nature reclaiming the land to a hellscape of factories. Tolkein did NOT want this and I feel that makes your Sauron the best villain.
@@madhatten00 Not really, Numenorian construction was more advanced than his with their use of Orthram (The black Stone that Orthanc and Minas Tirith's outer wall in the books were made of.) Which was essentially impregnable. The Morannon on the other hand was knocked down more than once, he could just rebuild his shit with magic when he needed too.
"It's okay to stab them Frodo, they're just zombies." "They're not zombies Gandalf!" "It's a figure of speech. They're bureaucrats, I don't respect them. Just keep stabbing, Frodo."
"Now, you may choose your fate. You can be fu#ked to death; You can be murdered to fu#k; Or you can be murder-fu#ked to death. Choose quickly, the lube evaporates quickly off the balrog ..." Ok, I took it too far, _they_ took it too far; Puffin shouldn't make Wyrm-tongue fluff the big guys, or the giant spider-lady.
somebody please make this in fan art and link it here. This is to good to pass up. *WAIT* ... even better... we need an fan made animation skit of this.
@@LancePeebles That’s... pretty far off. Sauron is a divine being, a Maia. Think of him like an angel of sorts. He was created to work with Aule, a Valar (think of them like higher-ups in the celestial hierarchy without quite being gods, maybe somewhere in the realm of Seraphim). He was a being of order first and foremost, and when he got corrupted by Melkor, aka Morgoth (basically Satan), he became obsessed with bringing everything under HIS control. The DnD Lich WAS based off of him later, but it is a distinctly different being since it has to be, y’know, human. Or at the least mortal. Sauron can’t really die. He DOESN’T die at the end of LotR, he is merely reduced to a shadow of his former self, never again able to enact his will unto the world. The Silmarillion goes into a lot of detail about his origins and nature. It’s well worth the read.
@@Nobythulhu so making everting super bureaucratic and by making everyone work for his company... sounds about right. Middle earth slowly becoming industrial is actually one of Tolkien’s biggest fears. So congrats to Puffin Forest, you truly were the villain of his story.
When you just watch the movies: Balrog: some big scary fire demon Smaug: some big scary dragon Sauron: some big scary magic eye man with a ring. When you read all the books: Balrog: a former dragon-riding paratrooper. Smaug: a runt. Sauron: Loki but more evil.
@@laften2605 how about we forget that Sauron taught Celebrimbor and the elven smiths how to make the rings of power while in disguise as Annatar, and personally forged the one ring himself.
@@austinblades8903 Me personally, I would probably model him after the Trickery Domain Cleric to reflect his duplicitous nature, with a few levels into Armorer Artificer to give him the skill for forging Rings of Power.
@@trla6505 I think your referring to shadow of morder. Celebrimbor is a real character from the books that said a lot of what he says happens in that game doesn't. Celebrimbor helps forge the elven rings of power, sauron makes the one ring to control them, the elves refuse to serve sauron and sauron basically massacres the elven kingdom that celebrimbor ruled over. Celebrimbor himself is captured, tortured, and his body turned into a war banner for the orcs. The end
It's funny, Sauron was actually the god (or angel, the Tolkein-verse has its own mythos) of crafting. So playing him as a blacksmith is actually pretty accurate.
Not really, the gods were the valor, Sauron is the servant of Morgoth/Melkor, he is not a “God” but a fallen angel is almost a bit accurate but an angel might be a balrog as they are the generals in Melkor’s army
@@louie2639 Actually, he was a former Maiar of Aule, the Valar of crafts. The Valar effectively translate into a pantheon like the Greeks or Norse, so Aule was the "god" of crafting, while Sauron was one of his servant Maiar, sort of like a lesser deity, although all of the Valar answer ultimately to the sole deity, Eru Illuvitar, whom is pretty straight up an allegory for God/YHWH/Jehovah/Yahweh, complete with a Messiah prophecy.
@@josiaharaki7310 Well, the word “god” doesn’t really translate to what the Valar are. Keep in mind that the Valar operate at the behest of Eru/Illuvatar and that the Melkor story, of the once strongest of the Valar, itself ties into the fallen angel myth. So, I would say that both Valar and Maiar are better described as angels, just different orders of them.
What I was thinking. I like to think of it as "leadership" though. He was able to get them to work together, for him, by appealing to what they wanted and/or needed.
@@non4997 I was referencing the fact that, in the LotR canon, Sauron served Morgoth (Satan) until he turned against Eru Ilúvatar (God) and got his butt kicked. Sauron was only the greatest evil power of the age because his boss was sent to prison.
It's funny how the millitary industrial capitalism of Sauron is exactly what Tolkien saw as the despoling force of the world. So, all in all; pretty accurate role playing. Granted; this version has more HR forms haha
Capitalism? Tolkien contributed to capitalism, the closest we see to capitalism in the books is an innkeeper selling beer. The industrialists use slavery and raiding there's no money involved.
Tolkien lays the blame of the destruction of the english countryside and it's natural beauty pretty firmly at the feet of the industrial revolution. And the industrial revolution and capitalism go hand in hand historicallly. It's not innacurate to have them tied together.
@@TheJrbdog yeah.. since the gold in a fantasy setting is finite, its value in the doesnt change in this case. as the same gold also is used in trade with every other nation on that world.. :)
@@TheJrbdog that gold had been dormant an unused for thousands of years aka suddenly the people gained millions of gold coins in total which would totally crash an economy that was there without that gold. In practice it would be the exact same if they suddenly created all that gold
He actually isn't that wrong in his interpretation. Sauron used to be the apprentice of Aulë, the Blacksmith God in the Silmarillion (Tolkien's "prequels").
fans: "he knows nothing about Sauron, does he?" Puffin: "I actually don't know anything about Sauron..." fans who read the books: "he knows a everything about sauron, doesn't he!"
3:03 - "Quickly, my character became more like a fuzzy secretary." Fun fact: Stalin was secretary of the central committee before he became chairman. He used that position to gain political connections, and later to provide his loyal followers with connections. It's essentially an excellent choice for your first step on the ladder to becoming an evil overlord. (I mean Littlefinger from _A Song of Ice and Fire_ is similar as well. Given that Sauron is literally called the Deceiver in-universe, I presume this is exactly the kind of character he would be.)
Timothy McLean He was second in command to the former dark lord Morgoth who I think also was Melkor at some point. Also the backstory is kinda wrong, especially the blacksmith part since Sauron didn’t create the ring :p
@@gustafarfwidsson1892 Sauron DID create THE Ring. There were 20 rings of power ( the most important ones. 3 for the elves, 7 for the dwarves, 9 for men and the 1 ruling ring), and 17 of them directly involved Sauron. Tolkien doesn't make clear whether Sauron helped forge the lesser rings or just gave instructions in ring lore, but what he does make clear is that he forged the One ring in secret away from the elves. Like, personally made it. "He bent all his might and malice and will to dominate upon its creation" from Gandalf. That's what made it so much more powerful than the other rings. The only rings he didn't have a (direct) hand in creating were the three elven rings.
TheLolzKnight yea sorry I remembered it wrong. Sauron did create his own ring but he made or asked (or whatever) Celebrimbor to create the other rings for the men, dwarfs and elves. I remembered it as Celebrimbor creating all of them including Sauron’s
@@gustafarfwidsson1892 No worries. That one probably came around because of shadow of Mordor, where they showed Celebrimbor creating a ring for Sauron. But i don't personally hold those games as cannon (despite being very fun)
Incorrect. Golden had a problem with people using his work as an allegory for things that surrounded it or, in fact, came later. But his stories are very clearly an exploration of his experience in World War 1. There's absolutely no getting around it at all. And industrialization was a big part of that.
@@JoeAuerbach I think it's quite dismissive against the author to proclaim that the context in which they wrote and the important events that happened during their lives supersede their authorial intent. Tolkien disliked his story being considered as an allegory and that's that, I won't go against his wishes and expressed intent. To call Sauron and Saruman symbols of industrialism is to do exactly that - piss on the author's wishes. They were never meant to symbolize anything. If you think industrialism and the horrors of war inspired their creation - that's your take on their narrative genesis, but to proclaim them as symbols is to go too far.
Not really on paper Sauron would be the strongest however he lost to a human after all and not even in a special way like Smaug or Shelob. And since the Balrog lost to Gandalf its hard to tell if he is stronger than Smaug. Shelob is the weakest for sure.
@@jayman1772 It is because he lost ring, what was a thing what give him direct control of the army but also a weakens what could and was exploited. He should be comparable in strength to Gandalf, because they belong to same specie.
@@TheRezro Should he tho? They send like 3 Guys down to defeat Sauron and only one did a decend Job but I guess you have a point. So the 3 Balrog Smaug and Sauron are hard to decide and shelob remains weak xD
@@jayman1772 To be fair, Sauron lost to a 7 foot tall Numenorean who was accompanied by his 7'10" father and his elven lord friend. To say he was defeated by a human is diminishing the strength of Isildur.
@@djturtledarkness diminishing? he is a human not a god. Sauron at least has godly connections Isildur could not even handle the ring. In the LOTR universe humans are not the strongest beeings they don't even stand a chance against a troll if the troll would not be so stupid. So I am not diminishing the strength of Isildur he defeated Sauron after all but it is still only a human who defeated someone like Sauron. I mean Sauron was stupid enough to let someone cut his finger basically his only weakness.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 A bet? A bet on what, on history? The greeks didnt know any material better than poor quaility iron. I am a mechanical engeneer. If you think you know better than me, than link a machine with a high pressure steam tank, that isnt made out of steal components.
I am now imagining Melkor/Morgoth coming back from wherever, looking at what Puffin!Sauron has done in this timeline, and they proceed to enact the dynamic of Dr. Evil and Number Two from Austin Powers. "But I made this into a successful business!" "Screw this, we got Real Evil(tm) to do!"
This is what happen, when you do LotR campaign, without reading Silmarillion. The dude is literally that world Devil son... son. He can see people soul, read mind, decline divine energy, shapeshift... and also true a really good blacksmith. And about team management - he possibly should inherent parents ultimate ban hammer against evil creates. "No, bad dragon, go to your cave, think about your behavior for 100 years!", " But...", "No but! Flight to your room".
I would have thought that Melkor/Morgoth was the Devil-analogy. He's the one who rebels against the creator and causes all the bad stuff in the world to happen, etc. Sauron is one pin down from that so... like, the anti-christ, maybe? Secondly, and I'm less sure about this, but wasn't the whole deal with him wanting the ring that he put a whole bunch of himself into it and kind of needed it back to be at full strength? So if this is 200 years after LOTR and the ring is destroyed that would hardly be Sauron at his most powerful, right?
@@havcola6983 They could've just said that the necromancer brought him back to life with all of his power, since both he and the ring were destroyed so all of him could be brought back.
His most important ability is that he's amazing at manipulation. He's literally called Sauron the deceiver. I think he played him pretty accurately. Especially the part with "You want a ring? You get a ring. You want power? I'll give you power." was literally his MO from start to finish.
@@havcola6983 Your second point is what balances the game. The destruction of the One Ring reduced Sauron to a level below that of even the weakest of living beings (A suitable example would be a honey bee), at least in terms of raw power. That being said, Sauron wasn't called 'the deceiver' for nothing, so if he was given a baseline human body, I doubt the lack of power would hinder him much.
I Love how he somehow manages to get Sauron wrong in a such way that makes him portray him perfectly. Its like using the wrong math equation to get the right anwser
Evil blacksmith is really not wrong, lol but add lord of wearwolves, super sorcerer, and demigod to that, along with super strength, super strong, and the ability to to instill fear in the hears on mortals
@@nerosoul2506 So does Bashew, or however you spell that. It's kinda odd they are passing up Puffin... Wait, is Puffin EVER sponsored? I cannot recall him ever showing a product... I could be wrong...
The PR team dose not like the word battle it makes evil industries™ look bad. A military revolt makes evil industries™ look like the they are not responsible for it and is simply reacting to a situation that is not there fault
Deception works well since sauron tricked the ancestors of Gondor into attacking essentially the angels of the universe and the god basically said "yeah no all your armies and your special island is now gone." Basically he nerfed the heck out of humans
This sounds like a fun campaign. I love the idea that Sauron, Shelob, Smaug and the Balrog are just walking around and causing chaos over middle earth.
(think about abserd discovering the cocaine sword) "that is a nice weapon you have there it's not as nice as mine because mine is owned by the great adventurer who is named abserd! even if yours is better it is no match for my many powers that I have so much of and you can't beat me because of my many powers, abserd is very powerful!"
Wow that was fantastic. And to be fair most of what you actually learn about Sauron is from Silmarillion, so you can certainly be forgiven for not knowing a ton about him. But honestly, deceit, charisma, and crafting genuinely were a huge part of his character.
"The 5th Age, The Age of Industrialisation. Mighty dark clouds covered the skies and choked the earth, the beasts of the land were slaughtered and eaten. The seas turned green from the pollution AND NO ONE SANG FOREVERMORE! MUHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!"
And the races of elves ,dwarves, and most hobbits simply vanished as the years ground on inexorably. The race of Men became weak,grey, and subsevient to thier new masters, the bureaucraticly- run military industrial complex of the New World Order. Generations of Men , grown and then harvested, as if they're just another natural resource to be exploited. A vast , unblinking, unfeeling machine, consuming humanity as it conquers all Middle Earth. Morgoth would be proud- laying Waste to the planet,And turning a Profit in the process !
This actually fits with the themes of Tolkien's works surprisingly well. He viewed industrialization as an evil mistake and definitely would have seen corporations as soul crushing monstrosities.
DasKame Be honest though, wouldn’t you just turn around and just say “f-k this, I am not dealing with this.” If a group calling themselves that came along?
Now I really want to see Sauron is a business suit trying to run a company. Sounds like of the best comedies of all time. We'll call it The Office: Mordor Edition.
Fallen Aasimar Warlock/cleric(forge/trickery) Worship morgoth Proficiency in deception, and persuasion. Because he tricked the elf’s dwarfs and men with the cursed rings. Done.
Sauron was in fact the second in command to the first Evil Lord. When his boss fell, he took over management.
So yeah, an evil blacksmith with a business major.
who was the first evil lord?
fiction Arch The Dark Lord Morgoth, or Melkor when the world was created. He basically waged war against the Christian god and almost destroyed all of middle earth.
@@gameygeemer4142 Sauron seems pretty weak in comparison.
@@fictionarch Morgoth was a deity, Sauron is something the equivalent of a fallen angel, so... He's supposed to be, yeah.
Morgoth was more powerful on the beginning but he lost all his power after throwing it away on pointless malice and hid in his fortress for millenia while Sauron ran his empire took over after his death and took far longer to eventually be defeated. So, Morgoth was more powerful, but Sauron was much smarter
To movie nerds: Wow Puffin, you ruined Sauron
To book nerds: Yep, pretty spot on actually
To Shadow of Mordor game nerds: yep. This is accurate enough.
Shadow of war players: This is just in-game footage.
Wasn't he originally a mayar of aule? Frankly one could have given him stuff relating to werewolves as well.
As a book nerd I’m just sitting here wondering what the logistics are for resurrecting things that aren’t dead. And also where “resurrection” even comes from in middle earth
@@Littlemike137 well as far as i can tell the elves effectively reform somehow in mandos, dwarfs, maybe too, they think so at least. Humans maybe maybe too, but whatever they then leave the universe. Beren went somewhere and was sent back again somehow, can't remember exactly what happened after dying getting the silmaril. The elves can come back if they want, i guess through valinor. while the dwarfs apparently reincarnate, at least durin, or at least it might be implied that he does.
From what I remember of the Silmarilion calling Sauron a "persuasive middle management blacksmith who just wants the world to be more organized" is pretty accurate.
It helps when you're immortal and make rings of domination that give +20 to all stats. ;-)
The fact that he's not only of the same race as the balrog but also its war buddy and former superior somehow got glossed over, I see.
Literally what he was in Númenor. Using marketing and persuasion convinced most of the population to join Church of Morgoth Inc. And it was success, untill they tried to sail to the Heaven, which resulted in the end of Flat Earth.
Isnt that how he's described in Shadow of War? im pretty sure thats how Shelob and the elf dude who's name i can't spell described him
@@nicholascordero6600 Carababbon?
Sauron became something more evil than an evil overlord:
A bureaucrat.
He brought capitalism in middle earth this bust me stop!!!
As opposed to “half republic half aristocracy of the Shire”? How do you think all but one of the book's main hobbits lived that well, ate that damned much, and did nothing except when bored? Huge permanent underclass with no options outside roles dictated by birth family, either directly or dictated by higher births "for the community". Frodo knew Sam from Bilbo's bloody garden as Sam's father aged out of competence, and Sam was going to replace him because that's how it worked. "Master Frodo", indeed...
@@Endoptic symbolically the Shire represented Tolkien views of traditional British culture. While Mordor represented his views of the modern age.
So the whole dynamic between the two was nostalgia for a simpler time
@@LongBreadMan *socialism
Hermes Conrad would like a word with you.
Puffin: "I reall do not know that much about Sauron..."
Then he procceeds to make a really accurate depiction of how Sauron is in terms of his ultimate goals. Sauron and Saruman were symbolism for the industialization of the world that Tolkien grew up with. So yeah evil CEO is a really accurate portrayal of Sauron
Can’t they just be evil sorry I hate pretty much all symbolism the raven is just a raven
triforceofcourage100 too bad, symbolism is everywhere.
ESP PupsnKits no
triforceofcourage100 well tbf Tolkien hates allegory to
@@albertschoise8091 yeah he disliked IT when other people tried to interpretate his work. But ofcause his life experince was important for his work. For example WW1 was a huge inspiration for him.
Lord of the corporations, one corporation to monopolize them all
Sauron must have the mad skills to own Boardwalk and Park Place once he has the money to do get them.
So Disney or Walmart?
one corporation to bring them all into the trust, buy them.
screw frodo where is Roosevelt
One company to buy them.
Sauron as a litigious bureaucrat obsessed with paper work and micro management is actually extremely accurate to Tolkien’s vision of the character. Congrats.
Richard Metclaf my brain reading this is slowly melting
As someone that wishes he knew more about LOTR, where does it talk about Sauron's personality like that? The Silmarillion? The appendices?
@@kenosgaming9937 Mainly The Silmarillion, I think.
I don’t know, I’m seeing this comment repeated about a thousand times, but I don’t see how you can read Tolkien’s description of Sauron or his story that way. There are certainly parallels with Saruman’s story and the rise of industrialization and ecological spoliation that followed, but while Sauron’s story had the latter, it was more mindless and didn’t track with corresponding technological advancement. And where does the bureaucracy and micro come from? Is this in the Unfinished Tales somewhere? It’s certainly not in the Silmarillion.
@@keoghanwhimsically2268 Sauron was originally a maiar who was pretty into order, and was only led to Melkor because he saw the power he had as a way to create order. His fall from grace stemmed from his desire to basically bring order to everything. I think this was in some of Tolkiens letters.
Soooo....
Evil Campaign: Murder Friends
GOOD Campaign: Turtle F***ers
Seems legit.
You mean Turtle Friends
Gray Maven; 😂😂😂👌
Don't steal comments >:(
Moral of the story: don't underestimate the power of branding.
Wow I’m still on the run and I never realised I left middle earth and just kept running kinda like the doctor. Just keep running
2:35 The greatest evil of them all...
An unpaid internship
Truly wicked
EVIIIL
That's just monstrous!
Internships are supossed to be unpaid. It's even illegal to pay for them in the US (albeit I'm from swden).
@@thallan Wait, paying FOR an internship? I think the others were implying you should be *paid* for your time, even as an intern. Because y'know, folk need to subsist while contributing their time to the gain of a company, albiet at a less competitive rate when the position is provided to a less qualified person for teaching purposes.
"Sauron doesn't have scenes where he's talking in the film."
Don't you remember? He said "I SEEEEEEEEE YOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!"
And then at the end he was all "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!"
he also said Aragorn's name once or twice
Who can forget such classic lines as
*THERE IS NO LIFE IN THE VOID... ONLY DEATH*
So just speak like that for a whole campaign.
“Build me an army worthy of Mordor.”
I think he said that in Two Towers as well.
As someone who REALLY likes LOTR.
*Evil Blacksmith* isn’t far off the truth...
Isnt it celebrimbor that forged the rings or is that not canon?
@@majikkarp177 it is cannon
@@majikkarp177 He made the three Elven Rings secretly, but Sauron oversaw the creation of all the others, even if he himself did not personally make them.
Wasn't he also a powerful warrior too?
He's literally the embodiment of the god of darkness's will. He's a necromancer, a liche, and a sorceror of great power...well evil blacksmith is close I guess 😑😑😑.
You know this ending with the giant corporation actually is a realization of some of JRR Tolkiens greatest fears.
Tolkiens greatest fear: binary gender
@@orangesoda4535 ???
@@orangesoda4535 ummmmmm what does this have to with anything here
@@soniccrocodile4578 ....yes.
@@soniccrocodile4578 idk, I think it's a joke of some kind, but I cant really tell
So you turned a peaceful landscape with nature reclaiming the land to a hellscape of factories. Tolkein did NOT want this and I feel that makes your Sauron the best villain.
Sauron was a technomancer clearly. His buildings were clearly much more advanced technologically than the rest of middle earth.
@@madhatten00 Not really, Numenorian construction was more advanced than his with their use of Orthram (The black Stone that Orthanc and Minas Tirith's outer wall in the books were made of.) Which was essentially impregnable. The Morannon on the other hand was knocked down more than once, he could just rebuild his shit with magic when he needed too.
But that's what happened originally, only on a longer time scale.
@Heather the Artist That makes a lotta sense!
sounds more like what Saruman did to Isengard tbh
“-Management material all over you.”
“Oh, that’s just hobbit blood.”
“Exactly.”
We had to remove that part of the scene. Wasn't exactly pc. We're not racist against hobbits. All can be sla...empl...oy..ees.
I see
@@DanTKD87 arguably it could mean that Hobbits are considered particularly good at management
"It's okay to stab them Frodo, they're just zombies."
"They're not zombies Gandalf!"
"It's a figure of speech. They're bureaucrats, I don't respect them. Just keep stabbing, Frodo."
Rick and Morty
"We'll be the Murder Friends"
I thought you were the murder fu-
*"FRIENDS. WE'RE THE MURDER FRIENDS."*
"Now, you may choose your fate.
You can be fu#ked to death;
You can be murdered to fu#k;
Or you can be murder-fu#ked to death.
Choose quickly, the lube evaporates quickly off the balrog ..." Ok, I took it too far, _they_ took it too far; Puffin shouldn't make Wyrm-tongue fluff the big guys, or the giant spider-lady.
AscendtionArc p
I woke up my whole family from laughter at 4.30 am. THANKS
thats one cold mother friend
It's because the real muderfuckers are the Slaanesh clutists.
The mental image of Sauron handing out pamphlets to screaming civilians is just too funny.
In that armor that looks like he raided the wardrobe of a black knight from dark souls.
I like the idea of the villagers stopping to take a pamphlet and say, "Oh, thank you," before immediately returning to panicking fun too.
somebody please make this in fan art and link it here. This is to good to pass up.
*WAIT* ... even better... we need an fan made animation skit of this.
I can imagen him pointing at people, looks like he is challangeing them, then he takes up the pamphlets XD
I'm pretty sure there's a mod or an easter egg of a game for it somewhere, a Fable game I think...
He actually was a good Smith. Also sorcerer, necromancer, manipulater, general, strategist and general omnidisciplinary evil lord
Great orthodontist too
@@MapleLamia This comment wins the internet today. Probably tomorrow too.
He could also transform into a giant wolf
Also has an eye for jewelry ... eheh
I’ll see myself out
And, he had a _lovely_ singing voice. =)
At first I was like "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF SAURON!"
But then I was like, "ohhhhh. You DO know Sauron..." :D
David Idiart Even a broken clock strikes right twice a day
You dont know me!!!
Later
You-you do know me
**sniffs**
Sounds to me like you played sauron *VERY* accurately. More modernized? Sure. But definitely sauron.
@Cian McCabe you have to admit that Ben's version of Sauron can be used for a godlike LOTR parody.
The anachronism enhanced the play.
I’m pretty sure he was a Nekromantik Lich so I guess evil blacksmith is close enough maybe
@@LancePeebles
That’s... pretty far off. Sauron is a divine being, a Maia. Think of him like an angel of sorts. He was created to work with Aule, a Valar (think of them like higher-ups in the celestial hierarchy without quite being gods, maybe somewhere in the realm of Seraphim). He was a being of order first and foremost, and when he got corrupted by Melkor, aka Morgoth (basically Satan), he became obsessed with bringing everything under HIS control. The DnD Lich WAS based off of him later, but it is a distinctly different being since it has to be, y’know, human. Or at the least mortal. Sauron can’t really die. He DOESN’T die at the end of LotR, he is merely reduced to a shadow of his former self, never again able to enact his will unto the world. The Silmarillion goes into a lot of detail about his origins and nature. It’s well worth the read.
@@Nobythulhu so making everting super bureaucratic and by making everyone work for his company... sounds about right.
Middle earth slowly becoming industrial is actually one of Tolkien’s biggest fears.
So congrats to Puffin Forest, you truly were the villain of his story.
Your corporate satire is way too on-point. I feel like you actually work for a soulless company.
He dose it's called RUclips 😂
@@zerospeed1498 😂
As an employee of a soulless company that is actually located in a district commonly called Mordor by everyone working in it I find it very accurate.
@@zerospeed1498 Makes you wonder why we still watch RUclips nowadays.
@@zerospeed1498 ahhhh you beat me to it
When you just watch the movies:
Balrog: some big scary fire demon
Smaug: some big scary dragon
Sauron: some big scary magic eye man with a ring.
When you read all the books:
Balrog: a former dragon-riding paratrooper.
Smaug: a runt.
Sauron: Loki but more evil.
You forgot daddy Stalin in the unwritten sequels, some big scary mustache
Nicely put.
Though I must admit, my lore comes from youtube, rather than the books ( I read -1, 1 and 2; one day I'll read 3).
Smaug is a runt?!? what do normal dragons look like?!?
@@jacobnoelle8428 They Big.
@@jacobnoelle8428 Mountain sized
This:
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So you basically turned Mordor into a fantasy megacorporation.
That’s absolutely perfect
Or the Guild of Calamitous Intent?
That's just insidious!!!
And that company's name was... AT&T
+@@spartanhawk7637+ How about EA Games?
@@cnlbenmc Oh, even better!
"Evil Blacksmith" is actually pretty accurate, considering he started out as one of Aule's Maiar.
How about we forget that celebrimbor made the rings
@@laften2605 how about we forget that Sauron taught Celebrimbor and the elven smiths how to make the rings of power while in disguise as Annatar, and personally forged the one ring himself.
@@austinblades8903 Me personally, I would probably model him after the Trickery Domain Cleric to reflect his duplicitous nature, with a few levels into Armorer Artificer to give him the skill for forging Rings of Power.
@@austinblades8903 so celibrimbor is cannon? Nice
@@trla6505 I think your referring to shadow of morder. Celebrimbor is a real character from the books that said a lot of what he says happens in that game doesn't. Celebrimbor helps forge the elven rings of power, sauron makes the one ring to control them, the elves refuse to serve sauron and sauron basically massacres the elven kingdom that celebrimbor ruled over. Celebrimbor himself is captured, tortured, and his body turned into a war banner for the orcs. The end
"I ended up making him an evil blacksmith"
Tolkien in his grave: Nods in approval
As soon as I heard "Corporation" I immediately thought "The old world will burn with the fires of industry..."
Perfect.
I want to see Marx VS Saruman
It's funny, Sauron was actually the god (or angel, the Tolkein-verse has its own mythos) of crafting. So playing him as a blacksmith is actually pretty accurate.
tecnecly he was a Maia of the god of crafts
Not really, the gods were the valor, Sauron is the servant of Morgoth/Melkor, he is not a “God” but a fallen angel is almost a bit accurate but an angel might be a balrog as they are the generals in Melkor’s army
@@louie2639 Actually, he was a former Maiar of Aule, the Valar of crafts. The Valar effectively translate into a pantheon like the Greeks or Norse, so Aule was the "god" of crafting, while Sauron was one of his servant Maiar, sort of like a lesser deity, although all of the Valar answer ultimately to the sole deity, Eru Illuvitar, whom is pretty straight up an allegory for God/YHWH/Jehovah/Yahweh, complete with a Messiah prophecy.
@@josiaharaki7310 Well, the word “god” doesn’t really translate to what the Valar are. Keep in mind that the Valar operate at the behest of Eru/Illuvatar and that the Melkor story, of the once strongest of the Valar, itself ties into the fallen angel myth. So, I would say that both Valar and Maiar are better described as angels, just different orders of them.
Honestly, your playing Sauron as middle management fits his lore perfectly.
What I was thinking. I like to think of it as "leadership" though. He was able to get them to work together, for him, by appealing to what they wanted and/or needed.
Aside from the fact that the CEO was defeated aeons ago in a war against heaven.
@@timothymclean He shouldn't have tried to overrule the board of directors.
@@timothymclean if you're determined bankruptcy don't stop you
@@non4997 I was referencing the fact that, in the LotR canon, Sauron served Morgoth (Satan) until he turned against Eru Ilúvatar
(God) and got his butt kicked. Sauron was only the greatest evil power of the age because his boss was sent to prison.
...
You lucky bastard, you got his character perfectly.
Blind Beholder
But do the eyes still work if there blind
Soooo, basically you turned Middle Earth into Tolkien's nightmare... good job DARK LORD OF EVIIILLL!!! >.>
When your average girl from a mid school in the pokemon verse is more Dark Lord than a DARK LORD.
how could you say something so mean about trixie starbright bestest nicest friend ever?!
Puffin Forest played an evil highschool girl that was much worse than this.
@@moseszero3281 Don't be fooled by her friendly outgoing appearance. Trixie is a soulless abomination who will crush anyone who gets in her way.
Don't say that name!
She can hear you.
@@nohandlemebruh She is my bestest friend!
(SAVE ME)
"You're going to be a ... ahhh .... suppository company." - I don't think my downstairs neighbours appreciate me having laughing fits at 2am.
What skills is Sauron known for?
How about: Enlarge Person, heavy mace
Yes but his biggest skill is persuasion. He gets people to join him easily.
dude he literally controls people's minds
High everything but dexterity
Phalactary ring
Dominate person and beast
And what you said
@@KJ-ud9uf well he was a angel of sorts
@@KJ-ud9uf Don't forget that he can attack with *DARKNESS ITSELF* whenever.
It's funny how the millitary industrial capitalism of Sauron is exactly what Tolkien saw as the despoling force of the world.
So, all in all; pretty accurate role playing.
Granted; this version has more HR forms haha
Capitalism? Tolkien contributed to capitalism, the closest we see to capitalism in the books is an innkeeper selling beer. The industrialists use slavery and raiding there's no money involved.
What about Melkor?
@@victor_. I think melkor is supposed to be lucifer in the Tolkien stories.
I swear you guys use capitalism as some kind of bogeyman. Capitalism was never even touched on in his books.
Tolkien lays the blame of the destruction of the english countryside and it's natural beauty pretty firmly at the feet of the industrial revolution.
And the industrial revolution and capitalism go hand in hand historicallly.
It's not innacurate to have them tied together.
Thus, with an evil dragon, sorcerer, and dark lord creating megacorps, Shadowrun was born.
That moment when flashbacks in Shadow of War has more characterization than the trilogy with him as the main villain.
Tbh if SoW had Sauron be just like this I'd replay it much more
He only spoke two sentences in that game
@@WingZX1103 still more than the movies
@@EntropicMalevolence Actually I think there were at least 3 points you can hear him speaking in the movies. Usually only short lines, but still.
@@UltimaXReborn Sorry that's Fellowship propaganda.
This is gold. In Poland Warsaw, we have this business district, where many big corporations have theirs HQs. We call it Mordor :p
Oh no they found me! I better keep running away until I can rest
In Russia we call our Mordor just Moscow.
Hmmm...I guess my Mordor would probably be Montréal I guess. XD
I mean in America we call Mordor Florida
@@mellenhead_7636 in America we call America Mordor
Giving away all that treasure would completely devalue it as currency. Good job dorf, you invented MASSIVE INFLATION.
If it devalues then its deflation
@@serezelveydawn Money is devalued->prices go up.
It IS inflation. Deflation happens when money is overvalued.
But won't that only happen if more gold is produced? They just gave to gold to the people who needed it.
@@TheJrbdog yeah.. since the gold in a fantasy setting is finite, its value in the doesnt change in this case. as the same gold also is used in trade with every other nation on that world.. :)
@@TheJrbdog that gold had been dormant an unused for thousands of years aka suddenly the people gained millions of gold coins in total which would totally crash an economy that was there without that gold. In practice it would be the exact same if they suddenly created all that gold
"A wasteland of peace". Brilliant. This is a truly great campaign.
Me: "he knows nothing about Sauron, does he?"
Puffin: "I actually don't know anything about Sauron...."
Well technicly he isn't all that wrong.......
He actually isn't that wrong in his interpretation. Sauron used to be the apprentice of Aulë, the Blacksmith God in the Silmarillion (Tolkien's "prequels").
I think it worked out.
@@DanTKD87 Nice
fans: "he knows nothing about Sauron, does he?"
Puffin: "I actually don't know anything about Sauron..."
fans who read the books: "he knows a everything about sauron, doesn't he!"
I love that you made sauron is literally a evil middle manager type. When you think about it, thats kind of what he was.
So you turned a war game into a factory management
*i love it*
Ironicly you were pretty right for going with the blacksmith, since sauron once served under the "god" of smith Aule
When your DnD campaign turns into an Episode of The Office
I would pay to see that! lol
@@redwolf6213 Sorry to raise the dead, but what you're thinking is Aquisitions Incorporated
3:03 - "Quickly, my character became more like a fuzzy secretary."
Fun fact: Stalin was secretary of the central committee before he became chairman. He used that position to gain political connections, and later to provide his loyal followers with connections. It's essentially an excellent choice for your first step on the ladder to becoming an evil overlord.
(I mean Littlefinger from _A Song of Ice and Fire_ is similar as well. Given that Sauron is literally called the Deceiver in-universe, I presume this is exactly the kind of character he would be.)
This Sauron is even more evil than the original. Sauron The Corporate Company CEO
Funnily enough, you actually got Sauron's character and skills pretty close to spot on.
I mean, the backstory is a bit...wrong, and I'm at least 40% sure he was a general or something in Not-Satan's army, but still.
Timothy McLean He was second in command to the former dark lord Morgoth who I think also was Melkor at some point. Also the backstory is kinda wrong, especially the blacksmith part since Sauron didn’t create the ring :p
@@gustafarfwidsson1892 Sauron DID create THE Ring. There were 20 rings of power ( the most important ones. 3 for the elves, 7 for the dwarves, 9 for men and the 1 ruling ring), and 17 of them directly involved Sauron. Tolkien doesn't make clear whether Sauron helped forge the lesser rings or just gave instructions in ring lore, but what he does make clear is that he forged the One ring in secret away from the elves. Like, personally made it. "He bent all his might and malice and will to dominate upon its creation" from Gandalf. That's what made it so much more powerful than the other rings. The only rings he didn't have a (direct) hand in creating were the three elven rings.
TheLolzKnight yea sorry I remembered it wrong. Sauron did create his own ring but he made or asked (or whatever) Celebrimbor to create the other rings for the men, dwarfs and elves. I remembered it as Celebrimbor creating all of them including Sauron’s
@@gustafarfwidsson1892 No worries. That one probably came around because of shadow of Mordor, where they showed Celebrimbor creating a ring for Sauron. But i don't personally hold those games as cannon (despite being very fun)
What's great is that since Sauron and Saruman were basically symbols of industrialism, you basically hit the nail on the head.
Tolkien would slap you for suggesting his work contains allegories for our real world.
Incorrect. Golden had a problem with people using his work as an allegory for things that surrounded it or, in fact, came later. But his stories are very clearly an exploration of his experience in World War 1. There's absolutely no getting around it at all. And industrialization was a big part of that.
@@JoeAuerbach Tolkien had denied that his stories are in any way an allegory for WW1. You're arguing that he lied?
@@allozaur2 no, I'm saying that you ignored his context. I assure you that neither this video nor your reply were my first exposure to Tolkien
@@JoeAuerbach I think it's quite dismissive against the author to proclaim that the context in which they wrote and the important events that happened during their lives supersede their authorial intent. Tolkien disliked his story being considered as an allegory and that's that, I won't go against his wishes and expressed intent. To call Sauron and Saruman symbols of industrialism is to do exactly that - piss on the author's wishes. They were never meant to symbolize anything. If you think industrialism and the horrors of war inspired their creation - that's your take on their narrative genesis, but to proclaim them as symbols is to go too far.
Evil Bureaucratic Blacksmith CEO is literally the most accurate portrayal of Sauron
"We need to think of ourselves as a company"
Ainz is that you?
Sooooo, is the Gnome Monk Albedo ?
SASUGA SAURON-SAMA
"You wanna murder? We'll be murder friends!"
This is how I have started all of my relationships for the last 5 years...
Is your name Dexter Morgan? (If you haven't watched "Dexter" that won't make sense)
"I really don't know that much about Sauron"
I REALLY THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA TELL US YOU HADN'T SEEN LOTR EITHER
Ironically, Smaug and Shelob are by far the weaker than Sauron and the Balrog.
Not really on paper Sauron would be the strongest however he lost to a human after all and not even in a special way like Smaug or Shelob.
And since the Balrog lost to Gandalf its hard to tell if he is stronger than Smaug.
Shelob is the weakest for sure.
@@jayman1772 It is because he lost ring, what was a thing what give him direct control of the army but also a weakens what could and was exploited. He should be comparable in strength to Gandalf, because they belong to same specie.
@@TheRezro Should he tho? They send like 3 Guys down to defeat Sauron and only one did a decend Job but I guess you have a point. So the 3 Balrog Smaug and Sauron are hard to decide and shelob remains weak xD
@@jayman1772 To be fair, Sauron lost to a 7 foot tall Numenorean who was accompanied by his 7'10" father and his elven lord friend. To say he was defeated by a human is diminishing the strength of Isildur.
@@djturtledarkness diminishing? he is a human not a god. Sauron at least has godly connections
Isildur could not even handle the ring. In the LOTR universe humans are not the strongest beeings they don't even stand a chance against a troll if the troll would not be so stupid. So I am not diminishing the strength of Isildur he defeated Sauron after all but it is still only a human who defeated someone like Sauron. I mean Sauron was stupid enough to let someone cut his finger basically his only weakness.
Fun fact sauron in lore is actually the strongest in the group of characters you have
Because he is a literal demigod
@@rolanvern2281 Tbf so is the Balrog and Saruman
@@aLukepop fair enough
And Gandalf. Gandalf is my favorite.
Because he is the embodiment of a crappy boss
I have read all the books at least 7 times, including The Silmarillion, and it's hilarious how accurate you are.
So the villains of LOTR go on to found the Guild of Calamitous Intent, great.
Somehow I can see that. :)
Insert David Bowie joke here ->
Corporate Lawful Evil is the best/worst Evil.
Thanks to Sauron employment is now at an all time high!
Living standards are through the floor but hey, at least you have a job right?
The old greeks knew steam technology.
One theory on why they never developed & utilized it was that in their economy workforce was simply cheaper.
@@valentinmitterbauer4196 Bullshit
@@das1ist1mein1name Wanna place a bet?
@@szarekhthesilent2047 A bet? A bet on what, on history?
The greeks didnt know any material better than poor quaility iron.
I am a mechanical engeneer. If you think you know better than me, than link a machine with a high pressure steam tank, that isnt made out of steal components.
"I need nothing but to serve you, Master!"
"So you're saying you're willing to provide your services....but for free?" - Lex Luthor
I am now imagining Melkor/Morgoth coming back from wherever, looking at what Puffin!Sauron has done in this timeline, and they proceed to enact the dynamic of Dr. Evil and Number Two from Austin Powers.
"But I made this into a successful business!"
"Screw this, we got Real Evil(tm) to do!"
I can confirm, that is indeed how business works.
This is what happen, when you do LotR campaign, without reading Silmarillion. The dude is literally that world Devil son... son. He can see people soul, read mind, decline divine energy, shapeshift... and also true a really good blacksmith.
And about team management - he possibly should inherent parents ultimate ban hammer against evil creates. "No, bad dragon, go to your cave, think about your behavior for 100 years!", " But...", "No but! Flight to your room".
I would have thought that Melkor/Morgoth was the Devil-analogy. He's the one who rebels against the creator and causes all the bad stuff in the world to happen, etc. Sauron is one pin down from that so... like, the anti-christ, maybe?
Secondly, and I'm less sure about this, but wasn't the whole deal with him wanting the ring that he put a whole bunch of himself into it and kind of needed it back to be at full strength? So if this is 200 years after LOTR and the ring is destroyed that would hardly be Sauron at his most powerful, right?
@@havcola6983 They could've just said that the necromancer brought him back to life with all of his power, since both he and the ring were destroyed so all of him could be brought back.
His most important ability is that he's amazing at manipulation. He's literally called Sauron the deceiver. I think he played him pretty accurately. Especially the part with "You want a ring? You get a ring. You want power? I'll give you power." was literally his MO from start to finish.
@@havcola6983 Your second point is what balances the game. The destruction of the One Ring reduced Sauron to a level below that of even the weakest of living beings (A suitable example would be a honey bee), at least in terms of raw power.
That being said, Sauron wasn't called 'the deceiver' for nothing, so if he was given a baseline human body, I doubt the lack of power would hinder him much.
I Love how he somehow manages to get Sauron wrong in a such way that makes him portray him perfectly.
Its like using the wrong math equation to get the right anwser
"this was allot easier when I had an entire army working for me", lol. The dark lord reduced to handing out pamphlets.
Plot twist: this whole campaign ends when Abserd shows up and says, "STOOOOP. You are doing the EVILLL.
Evil blacksmith is really not wrong, lol but add lord of wearwolves, super sorcerer, and demigod to that, along with super strength, super strong, and the ability to to instill fear in the hears on mortals
Wasnt he also like 8 feet tall.
Also he could turn into a bat.
@@robertbogan225 he was a shape shifter so he can be what ever height he wants.
Hears or hearts
"wearwolves"
So... wolves you put on when it gets cold?
>No Humblewood plug.
It's because they don't have Puffins in the setting, isn't it?
Apparently not yet!
Dingo does the humble wood plugs not puffin
@@nerosoul2506 So does Bashew, or however you spell that. It's kinda odd they are passing up Puffin...
Wait, is Puffin EVER sponsored? I cannot recall him ever showing a product... I could be wrong...
@@nerosoul2506 Everybody does the Humblewood plugs. We will all do Humblewood plugs before the end.
"Eventually it lead to a military fight..."
You mean a battle?
Maybe just a skirmish off the top. ;)
The PR team dose not like the word battle it makes evil industries™ look bad. A military revolt makes evil industries™ look like the they are not responsible for it and is simply reacting to a situation that is not there fault
I almost wish there was a pseudo-sitcom with sauron trying to manage his fellow villain buddies.
I’m actually physically pained by how unintentionally accurate he played Sauron this is the funniest fuckign thing
Murder friends vs the turtle f***ers.
Make it happen Ben.
Make. It. Happen.
We need a Turtle *FRIENDS* VS Murder Friends crossover!
Let’s make it happen!
Are you sure it isn't the Turtle FUCKERS, right? XD
princessbinas why would it be that? It was always friends
@@princessbinas Nope, I'm sure it was only friends, just friends, nothing else, definitely not anything dumb or something.
The "subsidiary" correction made me burst out laughing. Thanks.
Congratulations. You managed to make Sauron even more evil. *slow clap*
Deception works well since sauron tricked the ancestors of Gondor into attacking essentially the angels of the universe and the god basically said "yeah no all your armies and your special island is now gone." Basically he nerfed the heck out of humans
Sauron: I am the most powerfull and evil dark lord in history!
Morgoth: How bad is your memory exactly?
As long as Sauron recognizes that his master wasn't an evil lord, but an evil god, it's all good and not inaccurate.
Sounds like a good game story: a group of villains in a post-evil world having to build back up their power
Suppository company is really the type of company a evil villain would make
Yeah that one got me too LOL
"You have management material all over you", I figuratively died
This sounds like a fun campaign. I love the idea that Sauron, Shelob, Smaug and the Balrog are just walking around and causing chaos over middle earth.
This really is a great, modern interpretation of Sauron.
Stop the video all you need is
Coooocccaaaaaaaiiiiiiin
Always trust in the cocaaaaaaiiinne.
Oh no it's COCAINE BEARS
Cocaiiiine
Just bribe them all to join with cocaine
(think about abserd discovering the cocaine sword) "that is a nice weapon you have there it's not as nice as mine because mine is owned by the great adventurer who is named abserd! even if yours is better it is no match for my many powers that I have so much of and you can't beat me because of my many powers, abserd is very powerful!"
How do you role play an angry fire eye, by being an evil CEO!
He was a humanish-Demigod before he lost his body and became a angry fire eye.
Actually the book never states he was the eye that was used in the film's but it's believed he possessed a body and used the eye as a tool of scrying
Your Sauron is like if Nestle and Johnson & Johnson merged their empires together.
You really did the book-readers proud.
Wow that was fantastic. And to be fair most of what you actually learn about Sauron is from Silmarillion, so you can certainly be forgiven for not knowing a ton about him. But honestly, deceit, charisma, and crafting genuinely were a huge part of his character.
Things that bring me joy:
1. Puffin Forest cartoons
End of List
What about actual D&D?
I'm sorry life is so tough, I hope you know you can reach out to people, even if you don't have anyone there's any number of hotlines you can call
Y'all replying 24 seconds after this video was posted. You have this on 200x speed or something?
Majestic Sunset nah just notifications on
yes it is a very good power and takes years to master but after having no girlfriend or job for 20 years i have masterd it
It's called Cocaine
@@SladePate don't tell them our secrets
Nah, they just don't watch the videos
I really want to see a movie with Sauron as the protagonist and just takes over Middle-Earth.
Well there is a game series called "Overlord" which is basically this. Seriously check it out on steam it's fucking hilarious
Give it to Broadway, they're good at that sort of thing.
"The 5th Age, The Age of Industrialisation. Mighty dark clouds covered the skies and choked the earth, the beasts of the land were slaughtered and eaten. The seas turned green from the pollution AND NO ONE SANG FOREVERMORE! MUHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!"
And the races of elves ,dwarves, and most hobbits simply vanished as the years ground on inexorably. The race of Men became weak,grey, and subsevient to thier new masters, the bureaucraticly- run military industrial complex of the New World Order. Generations of Men , grown and then harvested, as if they're just another natural resource to be exploited. A vast , unblinking, unfeeling machine, consuming humanity as it conquers all Middle Earth. Morgoth would be proud- laying Waste to the planet,And turning a Profit in the process !
@@aaronhumphrey2009 Also, they cut dental.
This actually fits with the themes of Tolkien's works surprisingly well. He viewed industrialization as an evil mistake and definitely would have seen corporations as soul crushing monstrosities.
oh how right he was
You.. .should've read Silmarillion for that X,D
Actually, that's a pretty good idea for figuring out states I guess. More info is good.
Does puffin seem seem like the guy to read a massive history book.
@@orionar2461 at least worst then his willingness to math can't be thats for sure
Ah yes, the 5th age: Industrialization.
1:27.
I'll give you some help:
One of his titles is "sauron the deceiver"
My dad's a huge, HUUUGE LOTR nerd, and for years he's been saying that Sauron's good guy. He's going to love this 😂😂
4:31 This is why you get Saruman was your wingman. Keeps you from misspeaking in hilarious but non-professional ways. xD
Thanks for the laughs. I made a super archangel one time but got stuck being the crafter/faceman so I feel your pain....
At least it was Murder *Friends* this time.
"Murder F&§$&ers" would be sound dam scary
DasKame
Be honest though, wouldn’t you just turn around and just say “f-k this, I am not dealing with this.” If a group calling themselves that came along?
Now I really want to see Sauron is a business suit trying to run a company. Sounds like of the best comedies of all time. We'll call it The Office: Mordor Edition.
Whenever I'm having a bad day I go watch a couple of these vids and it usually brings up my mood. Thanks for that!
Fallen Aasimar
Warlock/cleric(forge/trickery)
Worship morgoth
Proficiency in deception, and persuasion. Because he tricked the elf’s dwarfs and men with the cursed rings. Done.
Add the ring and his mace as a homebrew artifacts and you're done.