No Start, Engine Cranks Okay, Troubleshooting With Basic Tools (No Power to Injectors)
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In this video I will show you how to test for spark, fuel pressure and injector pulse as well as how to test the engine main relay for proper operation. The vehicle is a 2005 Chevy Equinox with a 3.4L engine and the main relay (which supplies power to the fuel injectors) is not turning on.
Engine Performance Diagnostics chapter 3
Symptoms
- engine cranks normally but will not start
Fix
- repaired damaged wire going to the engine main relay
Tests shown
- how to test for spark and injector control using a test light
- how to test fuel pressure
- how to test the engine main relay
- how to test a computer driver
- how to locate an open wire in a harness
- how to repair a broken wire
- how to test a relay
Tools used
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First of all let me say thank you for for restoring my faith in humanity for providing information at this level without charging anything. My name is Paul and i have been into automotive diagnostics and repair for no less than 25 years.. I have allmost no formal training what so ever and trying to get the info to be able to trouble shoot and repair has been near impossible to obtain, and this is the best resource i have found to date. I have never been able to get into any sort of class for this type of training and this is awesome. Thank you again.
Paul, it is so good to here these type of stories! Keep following what I'm teaching, watch all my videos and I have no doubt we can get you exactly where you need to be to begin confidently troubleshooting these systems.
BTW I am charging for some of my material but thanks for the compliment
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i agree with most of the steps ( well actually all of them), except. the first step should be to try starting fluid. this will tell you if your dumbass just towed the car come because the wife ran it out of gas and cleared the odometer (guage stuck at 1/4). would have saved me $200.
I wouldn't argue that, and have used that method many times. In this case, since I walked Pete through most of these steps over the phone the day before, I knew where we were with the vehicle.
I second that, Brandon F. - best $99 I've ever spent!
I'm 65 and already a retired master electrician but if I was a young person I would dive into this kind of work with both feet. There is always going to be a limited number of people who understand how to both use logic to diagnose, AND understand and use the technology that allows one to see inside these electronic/computerized systems. A person who can do this could build a successful business and be their own boss. We are never going to see carburetors or points and condensers again so there is huge opportunity here to be in demand.
I am SO reminded of the diagnosing and repairs I did in my own career as I watch you and Eric and Ivan and Keith use logic and technology to ferret out the answers. Love it.
I am 54 with no training at all except from ScannerDanner and some other RUclips Master technicians as well. I love it too.
Watching you work reminded me of the old days when I worked for Xerox. I worked with the most awesome mentor and teacher ever, Rick D'Angelo. He was thorough and precise as you are. You are awesome sir and your students are lucky to have you. Where ever you are Rick D'Angelo, thank you. I was able to build a life and career around what I learnt from you.
A broken wire can be repaired/ replaced in a number of different ways depending on time restriction, location of the repair and customers budget. Too many ppl already focusing on the repair rather than the step by step fault finding which was shown and can be used on on another no-start vehicle. Great Video using basic tools.
Dude, without question the best "tutorial" I have ever watched. Concise, clear, informative..... splendid. Thank you so much. Helped me out big time.
I feel like I’m stealing an automotive education. You are a natural instructor. It’s rare to find a person that has bothered mastery of their craft, as well as the God given talent to share that craft. Thank you. God bless.
Thank you so much! If you're interested, I offer over 500 hours of training videos with a mix of classroom lectures and exclusive case studies on my website, after your done an absorbing the material here www.scannerdanner.com/join-scannerdanner-premium.html
How to see you there someday. Thanks again
You make engine diagnostics look so simple, which is far from reality, you are a bloody genius at finding faults, regards Stewart, Australia.
We'll done as always Scanner Dannner, everything you showed is exactly what I learned in Mechanic school in 1991. I still used the exact same procedures today. You run the show on computerized engine control systems etc and handle your content like a real boss. Keep it solid like you do God Bless brother.
Thank you my friend!
Oldskool Funk, one of my other favorite car channels!
me too, love that guy
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Yes,... this is an excellent video. It's very odd how really perfect and specific this is. Scanner Danner you are the sharp tack that knows his stuff. God bless your soul! The most elemental short can shut down a complete computer circuit. This can be a bigger to track. Thankyou.
Thank you my friend!
No doubt - if anyone wants to be able to properly troubleshoot and fix cars today- they must understand how to test automotive electrical circuits and electronic sensors and you certainly are a PRO - MANY THANKS for sharing your EXPERTISE 👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️✌️😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great job sir. It's a rainy day and I've decided to binge watch all of your videos. Until my head explodes that is.
Mr Paul Danner thank you very much for teaching us the proper way of troubleshooting automotive electical circuits with PCM. You are the best teacher i have ever seen.
This might be one of my favorite videos. Keep it simple, don't get crazy. Confidence builder. You can do A LOT with a multimeter and a test light.
Pete is a good friend. Many people wouldn't take care of their friends. His clients and your skills allows both of you make money. Good stuff.
Watch the master at work! We're humbled by you Paul! I can't thank you enough for the videos! 👍
I have one ? Iweashe my engine with weter corolla2005 engine the engine no start what shale idol ps
Can’t believe there are 67 fine specimens out there who can thumbs down this clip, Amazing! Thanks for great vids
Woooow,now l feel like am gonna be the best Mechanic eeeeever in Zimbabwe,l need to order all those tools an start working on my late father's Ford Ranger,so happy now
This has to be the most thorough troubleshooting I have ever seen. It is one thing to troubleshoot a complex circuit, its another thing to teach it. Bravo.
Thank you Chris
Sir Paul you are absolutely genius man. Its awesome how you do the job. I am your student on your channel and I absolutely love it. I don't even think for a second that for small amount of money i pay, i get back much more knowledge from you. You and your channel is awesome you doing a great job buddy.
Coolest thing I’ve seen on RUclips. What a great demonstration and showcase of knowledge and experience that seems elementary, but yet gets looked over every day. Sweet video
Thank you!
Very impressive teaching and diagnostic methods Paul. It's amazing how far you can get diagnosing problems just using basic tools. Never fail to learn something new watching your videos.
hi Paul aka (scanner Dan) you're the man!!! this other guy Paul is right about you... restoring faith!!!
you did it for me too..my car got towed...nissan maxima 04. I got it back and it finally started
today!!! I told you what the car was doing and you reached back out to me...that was it!!! you reached back... out to me...and helped me... thank you!!! I took the manifold off to see what the mechanic had done to my car....the first thing I notice is that the two 12mm bolts that mount it down in the back are missing...I rode my old school pedal bike to the Bronx and bought two 12mm bolts from the mechanic that had left them out. He said they weren't there when he worked on it...I knew that wasn't true because I put them there myself... long story short.....you are inspiring!!!!.. don't stop!!!.. keep doing what you do....again, thank you.. Paul aka (Scanner Dan!!!) you're the man!!!
Great troubleshoot lesson.
Your one of the best teacher I ever followed.
You are so eager and enthousiast to share your knowledge that it fuels everyone to learn more.
Thank you.
Love how you keep reminding people that heat and vibration can be a problem Paul. Simple and to the point.
This is such a good video I just wanted to say thank you Scanner Danner. You did a great job explaining everything you did so that even someone who isn't a mechanic can understand. Plus, your delivery is interesting, NOT boring. Great job and thanks again sir!
You are very welcome
Awesome educational video. I am up against this scenario,, 2006 Saturn Ion 2.2. Starter cranks over engine, No Visible Rpm Gauge movement,, smell fuel under hood,, so I am ruling out delivery from tank to engine,, a few pops of engine, no symptoms at all. Car sat for a period 9 Days of time through Cold snap of 1 to 10 degrees. No OBD 2codes relating to failed Crankcase position Sensor errors or the like. This video will help immensely to rule out other possible causes. Thanks, I enjoyed the learning experience. Great real time real life trouble shooting. This video is key to ruling things out.
Recieved my SD diagnostic manual yesterday, and now another great vid today. feeling blessed. Those sparks around the fuel test pressure area,reminded me a fire extinguisher in my mobile tool kit is just as important as.the Scanner Danner manual, and a test light. Thanks.
Thank you Bernie!
Thank Ya.
I'm getting Auto Electrical troubleshooting from your videos, Thanks
NICELY DONE. Those heat shrink connectors are awesome. I use them all the time. Thanks for sharing your diagnostic skills.
I REALLY like this video. For the most part, you diagnosed and fixed it using old school methods and logic, for the most part. I understand scanners absolutely have a place these days but sometimes it's good to see how to do it without all the fancy (high priced) equipment. THANKS
Great job. I teach automotive in Ontario part time, and j still work in the trade part time doing alot of the same work. It really is the best of both worlds. I approach electrical issues very much the same. Very high quality videos!
Got to share this one with you.... I bought a 2005 Equinox for my daughter...it looked ok.... the next day the CEL comes on and would not stay running, so I run code and it points to the EGR.... I run Data Stream and at idle the ECM is calling for the EGR to open at 100% and it goes down as I increase idle.....since I know the 2005 has a TSB for the EGR I surmise that whoever switched out the EGR and harness wired it up backward.....that's what I found and I fixed it and had a good running vehicle!
Paul scanner danner!! Absolute hero as usual! Love watching your videos Paul, thank you
You're a legend but as we used to discuss before I don't use a test probe because of that reason that the ground always comes off I like a meter to show me the exact voltage different ways of troubleshooting as long as we get to the root of the problem you're the legend
Thank you for taking us along on this adventure Paul !!!!!
Picture quality is awesome !
I LOVE YOUR NATURE OF NURTURING FOLKS ON GOOD DIAGNOSTICS! I Want to be experience in the game like you Sir!!
You sir are a master. I'm always amazed by your ability to diagnose automotive problems. Your knowledge is extensive and your expertise is top-notch. These videos are as entertaining as they are informative. Bravo sir!
Thanks Billy!
Nice fix and explanation Paul. I kept saying " that's not gunna want to idle " when I kept hearing that actuator moving. Lol. As always your one of the best. God Bless my friend.
Brilliant. Always enjoy your videos and the enthusiasm gives me the confidence to tackle these sorts of jobs myself. P.s "more European cars please Mr danner" would be the icing on the cake as we say in the UK.
ScannerDanner you are "The Man" a TRUE Troubleshooting Master!!!! Carry on Mr. Danner.
You sir are VERY knowledged and explain VERY well!! You "get it"
My name is Nicholas .T.B, thank you Mr Danner for sharing such relevant information about automotive diagnostics. i have been following your videos for the last two years and how i wish i knew about this ten years ago it would have quickened my way to self employment. Nevertheless that you.
dang no shock this time with coil and test light! nice work Paul!
haha nope. Thanks Mike!
I was hoping to see the " shock-dance" again. =p
ScannerDanner But the horn got you 😎
Good afternoon family. Thank you for your time and for the valuable information 👍👍🙏
test light in action good demo Paul , I thinking this should be a recall for a car could stall while on highway. or out on a bumpy road in No man's land,I
thanks for the diagm and fix
i AM marine tech and you changed m'y way of diagnose better than official trancher of engine brands
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sweet!
Superb video, man! Extremely informative. Great teaching. Why not solder instead of using a butt connector?
Basic tools -- job done .... this is great video to get newbies started on fault finding rather than push all the buttons at once part swapping.
Sir you are awesome. I am a mechanical engg. and i want to learn all the work you do. From where i can get this education. I am from India.
Found this video and another from this guy.
Its 746am and 708 am i finished this video.
Wifes truck is running again but i did not find the broken wire nor determine faulty relay but it is between the two.
Same area but might be the wire coupler connection that is moving about or the fuel relay.
I swapped all relay of the same type and some square 40a fuses. If it does happen again after i put new relays in than it will be a wire(s) within half foot of the fues box.
Now on top my pickup which is box ,wore , or fuel pump.
Lol whish me luck here in 2024 as i just noticed thos os 7 years ago but best by far of how to execute tracing a no start step by step
Scanner Danner: Note to self: Pull horn fuse out to prevent unnecessary trolling :p
lol
I'm pretty sure that one was an accident. They do mess with me at times and it's all good. You have to have fun sometimes right? There have been times where I get pissed, but it's breif
You never disappoint with your troubleshooting, you are the best. Wish to meet with you someday.
I like your videos man, very informative. I'm just curious what kind of tool do you use to find a short in a circuit that is causing the fuse to open? Splice sleeves(butt connectors), whatever people choose to call them, will work fine as a repair to a circuit like this. GM uses these in their connector repair kits when you have to splice in a new connector, I used them hundreds of times with no issues at all. Don't buy the cheap no name ones at wally world and you won't have a problem.
I have a few different tools for that. One is basically a circuit breaker and you follow the needle sweeps like a compass
That sounds like the same one I have, it works really well.
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YOU MADE ME THINK ABOUT MY GRANDKIDS
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TOW TRUCK TOOK IT TO THE SAME MECHANIC SHOP
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The new "Pittsburgh Kid"does it again! Great video on grounds and relay function as well as circuit layout and visual inspection. That Pete is a real "hipster" with that way cool earring, use that as a ground in your next video, Paul! LOL! Thanks for taking the time to share.
I suspected it may be a broken wire. But now I can do a more thorough diagnostic thanks a bunch of guys appreciate it
Almost had a fireball there buddy!! Lol
just strtd watching auto diagnostics this year started with ETCG > Ratchets and wrenches > South main auto > Motoyam82 and now you! You guys are the real deal!
Thanks man!
I see no issue butt connector. Solder joints (esp unsupported) will weaken and break before a proper crimped joint. Only solder joint I'd even consider in a high vibration environment like a engine compartment is a NASA style lineman's splice. Marine butt connectors are the way to go. If you insist on solder, get a marine style butt connector with solder.
I've heard of those. So there is solder inside of the butt connector and when you heat it, not only does it act as a shrink wrap, but then it melts the solder?
It seems you would have to get it too hot for the plastic before the solder would melt?
Yes, there is a solder ring inside the adhesive lined heat shrink connector. "Solder splice" would be the term to search.
got it, thanks!
The U-activate circuit tester made light work of that job. I can't seem to find such a versatile tool from a UK supplier. Great Diag as always.
I think it is specific from AESwave as they have created that tool. Thanks!
you have been checking fuses alot lately ....
lol, checking fuses is overrated
OK, so the fact that the car runs fine if/when it fires up only rules out a few things, like maybe fuel pump and pressure..? There is still this laundry list of circuits to trouble shoot as to why the car is not quite able to reach that point. Scanner Dan is so thorough. He's a damn good teacher!
No spoilers in titles pls.
I usually don't do that, but in this case I told everyone we were missing power to the injectors in the first 30 seconds of the video
A teacher than can also do! Takes the mystery out of the theory. Thank you so much.
I would get some electrical tape and wrap the exposed wires like the butt-end of a hockey stick so's the wires will be better than OEM protected.
I could fix that Chevy in 5 seconds with a gallon of gas and a MATCH!
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Thank You! I have been searching and searching to find a video that just might help me. My Envoy has been down for just over a week now, I have been out there every day trying to figure it out. At the end of a long disappointing day out with my car I would be at my computer searching for a video that might point me in the right direction, most of the videos stopped with a bad fuel pump, which I knew mine was working good. I really liked your methods to diagnostics, your method was easy to understand and easy to follow. And it was spot on to what my problem was, within 1 1/2 hours I located my problem. I greatly appreciate the great videos you put out. Keep up the great job and thank you again.
Heck yeah man, awesome! And you get an A for your diligence. Nice job man
@@ScannerDanner I can not take all the credit, I am always used to it being a part going bad that starts out costing me over $150. I would never have thought it to be a bad wire (costing me less than $5.00 to fix). You get most of the credit for Point me in the right direction and for showing me how to test to find out what to even look for! Thanks again Sir.
jesus christ people, the repair is 100% acceptable but not text book.. you could pull the fuse box by undoing those 8mm bolts and you will have better access on that connector, given the intake manifold is corroded like that, the chance of breaking few locking connector on that fuse box is very high, so will you risk a $1 repair over a possible fuse box or fuse box connector damage???
exactly
Great diagnose video. I learn so much watching these. Thank you.
why not solder?
Too difficult in this location
Louie Moscatel
done it hundreds of times....
Indeed time is money. A did not mean any disrespect to SD. And yes taking the fuse block up and make it wide open. But in my opinion I have done it and yes with heat shrink marine grade with the same sealant the bonds with the insulation. The trick is put more wire into it. And wrap the loom back together. I also add a piece of hard plastic under my wrap to keep the movement down to a minimum. 30 plus years of repair under my belt. ASE master also.
I do high end repairs. Cars in So California last bit longer and so the repair must last. I offer two year warranty 24k miles. Got to stand behind a repair that would make others say.... Wow. That was over kill.
could have twisted them together and wrapped it with chewed bubble gum, it would probably outlast the car from the looks of it :))
A mini van came in on the hook. Couple of guys threw their hands up. Me being new but the most experienced asked for the job. In 30 seconds I had the engine running. The fuel gauge was stuck and the van was out of gas. I squirted some carb cleaner down the booster hose, vroooom. Even before I do electrical checks (except the battery,all electrical problems start at the battery) I perform this carb squirt test,saves a lot of time.
dude i would never use butt connector on computer circuits. i would solder and use shrink tube. but real good troubleshooting
To each his own. Thanks for the comment
Craig Binger ii
Eventually the solder would break due to vibration. Heat shrink butt connectors are a good alternative!
I've seen too many solder joints crack. Heat shrink butt connectors are the go for me.
then your using cheap solder or not heating the joints correctly and getting cold solder joints... ive never ever in 30 years had a solder joint go bad or crack....
You're very KNOWLEDGEABLE
Good Evening Sir ScannerDanner take care and have a great day Sir ScannerDanner
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Another great & FAST diagnosis!! I'm tired of being a parts changer!! Thanks again Paul! Watching next video soon!
Thank you!
This video is. Just what I needed to trouble my problem with my vehicle. Very very precise and informative. Thanks scanner.
Thank you!
Thanks for this. I had my '99 Montana van towed to the shop for what I thought was the fuel pump. Turns out it was NOT. The father and son team have been working on it for over 3 weeks trying to figure it out. The son has been doing most of the diagnostics and told me he thinks it's one of the modules, but after watching this, I'm not so sure. Wish you could call him and give him a few pointers over the phone....oh well....
You and Pete did a great job on that one. It seems the newer the vehicle the more wire chafing problems i see. I use a good visual inspection of wiring more than ever these days.
Very well executed, you are truly a master of your trade, I hope your students appreciate your skill. Delivered with out arrogant banter.
Thank you very much!
i love your test light methode, i learned from you and i implement on my jobs and made the diagnostic very easy specially for us mobile mechanic working outside tools like this cheap and easy to carry is a great alternative
Great diagnosis point to point and follow up. Learning alot Sir. Thanks for sharing your grief and experience.
I’ll never go to a car shop unless I’m right next to them . So I gotta know everything your willing to teach!
Sir you are good, you know how to read a wire print, your honest and do the right think.
Awesome job Sir, don't know much on cars but after watching your videos I feel enough to start simple before going drastic. Thank you feels like one on one teaching
Great to hear! Thanks so much and good providence to you.
You are a f***king genuine!
Might go over this video a few times to incorporate some of your expertise to my 2006 Chevy Malibu Maxx SS.
Seems to give me the same problem as that vehicle you worked on in this video.
Great job!
Thanks my friend
First off let me start by saying, "YOU ARE T.H.E. (the hero encountered) MAN!!! I have watched a videos today for answers to my 04 LARIAT problem and also a 02 Expedition issue. Thank You, I have gain valued information in numerous areas.
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Thanks so much!
I would have soldered the wire with electronic solder and heat shrink seal - GREAT INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO PROPERLY TROUBLESHOOT THE PROBLEM 👍👍👍😊✌️✌️
Good Video As Always Paul, good way of diagnosis with just a test light mostly, to me the tests you ran actually covers the basic DIY test to find out where to start and narrowing down to chasing a wire gremlin.
Love the heat shrink butt connectors. I’ve also been using some of those solder seal connectors recently and have had good luck with them too.
I usually use Noid Lights to check for computer control after I check for power at the connector if they are available and accessible. Thank you. Great Video.
This is great, I have a 2003 Chevy Express van showing exactly the same symptoms
Excellent excellent video. I have a similar issue with a 2006 Sedona. Hopefully I’ll have the same conclusion. Thank you.
Excellent teaching. Thank you. From Dayton, Ohio
That's a great tool. Of course the skills and understanding of circuit design is most important but I love tools! Okay, it was cool to find the broken wire too.
I agree with you on troubleshooting from schematic when you go to the fuse that's connected to The load side that fuse all you have to do is go to the other side of the fuse to tell you if you have b+ if you have b+ on that side that means everything has been activated in the relay and the PCM is giving a ground to the relay at one shop that'll tell you everything me and you promote the same electronics on our channels in automotive it's good to see someone who knows the basic foundation of electronics
My car also doesnt start but it cranks...now i saw ur video Very informative and very helpful
Excellent diagnostic and job finding the problem. Thanks
I really appreciate you sir for your teachings ever since I started watching these videos am not the same.... Joseph, Zambia.
For my Camaro, I have no lights on light test for throttle body 1 & 2 fuse. You did great job explaining. Thanks
Am sure Pete is the 2nd best man after you,you always keep him on your side and calling him,l like it
I haven't been to your site before but yours has been most beneficial and easily understood thank you so much and keep up the good work.
Best video I’ve ever seen. Think I’ll finally be able to figure out where my circuit is messed up
Thank you so much!