Another good video! One thing to note as well is the rapier typically is good for lower defense enemies vs. the fang where it does good with higher defense monsters as well as the double accuracy roll when using stab. Depends on task but AFK slayer!
If you're going to save like 30 hours from 80-99 melees that seems pretty worth it to lose 1-2m selling the rapier back from ge tax and potential price fluctuation. Most people that are even looking at gear in the 50m range can probably make 2-5m gp/ph anyway at things like muspah, vorkath etc.
Rapier is double the price because its from tob. Tob has never been as accessible as toa is. Finding s team to lesrn tob is extremely hard. Finding one for toa is relatively easy. Supply and demand really. As for the fang itself. I think its a great weapon even sith the nerf. The only thing that actually changed about it is the slash. You can still use strength options on it but its in a stabbing motion. Or defence or even attack. The passive effect still works on it. And tbh. A rapier is like the last thing you should buy. Tent whip is much cheaper and a rapier outside of slayer is only good for a few niche things like crystals at vasa. When i owned one thats the only tike i used it. It being a bit slowly isnt a hug problem when you consider in the passive stuff. Still a great slayer weapon.
That's a really solid explanation dude, the fang really does seem like a good option given the difficulty of tob vs toa, and yes the nerf was only for its slash capabilities. Thanks for watching!!
Love your videos man, came back to osrs after taking a break for 6 years so all these weapons are new to me. Bought the Fang and i've never looked back! Great for casual slayer, awesome for Bandos, it's very comparable to the DHL even at Vorkath! Its very versatile and has a all purpose feel to it. Who wants to buy a fang for bossing and a DHL for Vorkath and a rapier for slayer??
Thanks for the kind words! Yes the fang is very versatile, and while it may not be BIS at certain bosses it is affordable for the everyday PvMer or casual player like myself. Thanks for watching James!
Both seem like a waste if all you want is combat stat training. Get a Glacial Temotli for 130k and fight Sulphur Nagua. Easy 100k experience per hour in your choice of melee stat. If you don't afk it and pick up the drops, you'll make about 250k gp/hr too.
ghrazi rapier also gets better xp because osmumten's fang has a reduced max hit in exchange for two accuracy rolls meaning that against high defense targets the fang is better in general
@@twistedbowrs No its my regular account. RSN: Chafflaughin I got 99 str recently so i am thinking maybe doing attack or magic next. i like to get the opinion of more veteran players
I only have one 99 myself (strength) and 1800 total level, so I'm not an expert by any means. I'm currently working on attack while trying to get base 70s in skills like construction and hunter for Song of the Elves quest. It's slow but I'm not trying to burn out. Hope that helps!
So is there really ever a need for a rapier for the average player? The fang just seems like the overall better weapon in literally every category, minus attack speed.
I wouldn't say so for the average player given the cost, and the fact that the fang is better for high defense battles. The rapier can provide slightly more melee xp an hour in nmz but I wouldn't say the increase is worth over 50m.
Whats crazy is he did a video comparing the abby whip to Grazier and the whip had the same xp rate as the fang. Guess i wasted my time getting to 82 att for the fang since its the same smh
@twistedbowrs Oh cool. I looked into it more and it still seems worth it. I ended up buying one today because it was only a little under 18mill and wasn't sure if it was going to keep going down or up. Almost lvl 80 now
With melee training, GP per XP irreverent because you still own the item so it isn't actually costing you money to use it if you sell it afterwards. At a 6 hour shorter training time, most would use the rapier if it was viable to them financially and they were only concerned with fastest melee training on lower defence npcs but the fan ia beneficial over higher defence level monsters so can you do another comparison against higher defence monsters to see which is better for anyone wanting to decide which is better for bossing or slaying. LOVED THE VIDEO!
@@twistedbowrs I just started 4 days ago, would this be a good weapon to aim for now? Been hardcore grinding combat right now then plan on doing a bunch of quest and such afterwards but not sure what to do. Considering 99 thieving to farm for blood shards or elves for the crystals. Thanks!
@@twistedbowrs Gotcha thanks! And yeah the price to performance seemed pretty amazing. Just picked up Sulphur blades and they've increased my dps by quite a bit as well compared to the dragon sword I was using for now lol. Keep up the awesome comparisons!
lmfao i know this is 7 months old, but how the hell did you sneak in that bs gp/upgrade l0l, i mean yeah you can do whatever you like, but that calculation makes no sense at all, you can sell these items back, so there is no gp/xp/upgrade
do you do nmz alot? if so youre going to be kicking yourself in the ass for not leveling slayer and combat at the same time. nothing like seeing max combats with 60 slayer and 0 gp
@@twistedbowrs that and the passive effect that effects accuracy and hit damage based on mobs defense. Still ok, but for 23m vs 52m ur def right. I’d only get rapier if rich. Great videos. Subbed.
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Glad you got some good use out of it, brotherman!
Appreciate the assist my man!
Been waiting for this one! Thank you!
Hope you enjoyed it!
I do stuff like this in secret so I don't feel like a hyper nerd glad to see someone out in the world is doing it for us to see !
Lol I've always been a numbers guy so I kinda enjoy it haha. Thanks for watching!!
Another good video!
One thing to note as well is the rapier typically is good for lower defense enemies vs. the fang where it does good with higher defense monsters as well as the double accuracy roll when using stab.
Depends on task but AFK slayer!
Thanks Ty! You're argument is correct, I just wanted to compare them from an xp standpoint since both are very popular in a general use case scenario.
@@twistedbowrs I got you boss! Thanks for the video I couldn’t help but to get both though haha 🤷🏾♂️
Hey man if you got the dough why not haha
I use the fang for everything even with the slash nerf. It still performs really well. I want to get a rapier but I doubt I'll use it much.
Fang still outperforms whip for general slayer, right?
The only reason the fang is so cheap is because jagex dropped the ball on making it so easily obtainable. It should be more rare and cost 50M+.
I agree with this but I think it's too late to recover its price significantly.
Raids being farmable by many players and giving drops despite dieing is why that happened.
That's what I've heard
Yeah unless they make it more rare and add a way to destroy them.
Maybe they might make an upgraded version, like how the rancour requires a torture to create.
Great video bro!
Thanks Shawn!!
If you're going to save like 30 hours from 80-99 melees that seems pretty worth it to lose 1-2m selling the rapier back from ge tax and potential price fluctuation. Most people that are even looking at gear in the 50m range can probably make 2-5m gp/ph anyway at things like muspah, vorkath etc.
I agree! But people value their time differently so it may not always be like that.
Rapier is double the price because its from tob. Tob has never been as accessible as toa is. Finding s team to lesrn tob is extremely hard. Finding one for toa is relatively easy. Supply and demand really. As for the fang itself. I think its a great weapon even sith the nerf. The only thing that actually changed about it is the slash. You can still use strength options on it but its in a stabbing motion. Or defence or even attack. The passive effect still works on it. And tbh. A rapier is like the last thing you should buy. Tent whip is much cheaper and a rapier outside of slayer is only good for a few niche things like crystals at vasa. When i owned one thats the only tike i used it. It being a bit slowly isnt a hug problem when you consider in the passive stuff. Still a great slayer weapon.
That's a really solid explanation dude, the fang really does seem like a good option given the difficulty of tob vs toa, and yes the nerf was only for its slash capabilities. Thanks for watching!!
Love your videos man, came back to osrs after taking a break for 6 years so all these weapons are new to me. Bought the Fang and i've never looked back! Great for casual slayer, awesome for Bandos, it's very comparable to the DHL even at Vorkath! Its very versatile and has a all purpose feel to it. Who wants to buy a fang for bossing and a DHL for Vorkath and a rapier for slayer??
Thanks for the kind words! Yes the fang is very versatile, and while it may not be BIS at certain bosses it is affordable for the everyday PvMer or casual player like myself. Thanks for watching James!
Great video ! Ammo crabs are so chill, that's my 2 cents !
Thanks! Ammonite crabs are solid except for the way too many crashers lol.
Agreed, but when it's free it's great haha. If you're not feeling too good, just smack crabs in bed on your phone, brilliant ! 👻
Both seem like a waste if all you want is combat stat training. Get a Glacial Temotli for 130k and fight Sulphur Nagua. Easy 100k experience per hour in your choice of melee stat. If you don't afk it and pick up the drops, you'll make about 250k gp/hr too.
I think I made this before naguas. But in any case this series just compares weapons, it's not meant to be an efficiency guide. Thanks for watching!!
ghrazi rapier also gets better xp because osmumten's fang has a reduced max hit in exchange for two accuracy rolls meaning that against high defense targets the fang is better in general
That's right! I figured I'd compare these two just because of sheer popularity as high level weapons for both training and PvM. Thanks for watching!!
it has reduced max hit but equally increased minimum hit
Ty for the video brother ^_^
Have a good one
No problem my friend I hope you found it helpful or enjoyed it!
ive been afking redwoods lately. Once i get 99 wc i dont know what i will be doing. Any recommendations?
Are you a skiller?
@@twistedbowrs No its my regular account. RSN: Chafflaughin
I got 99 str recently so i am thinking maybe doing attack or magic next. i like to get the opinion of more veteran players
I only have one 99 myself (strength) and 1800 total level, so I'm not an expert by any means. I'm currently working on attack while trying to get base 70s in skills like construction and hunter for Song of the Elves quest. It's slow but I'm not trying to burn out. Hope that helps!
The classic yew trees, angler fishing
Barbarian fishing for us noobs
I like the Rapier because I like using expensive weapons
Can't relate
So is there really ever a need for a rapier for the average player? The fang just seems like the overall better weapon in literally every category, minus attack speed.
I wouldn't say so for the average player given the cost, and the fact that the fang is better for high defense battles. The rapier can provide slightly more melee xp an hour in nmz but I wouldn't say the increase is worth over 50m.
i got 83 str what should i use? rapier or fang?
Fang typically does better against high defense monsters, also depends on how much you're willing to spend.
@@twistedbowrs hmm oke well the thing is.. i am only going to use it for afk strength training at nmz
go with the fang then, in case you decide to do pvm or slayer later :)
You have a video with fang doing 96k dps.
You should put more effort into collecting data
OK so the difference is because in my older videos I did normal nmz, which lowered my xp rates, the vids with higher rates are because of hard mode.
favorite afk activity is plank make or cooking they’re op
Plank make is a solid magic trainer
can we do a torva vs dharok?
I'd love too, but torva is way too expensive and I'm nowhere near rich enough to buy it. If I can find a way to get it I definitely would do one!
Whats crazy is he did a video comparing the abby whip to Grazier and the whip had the same xp rate as the fang. Guess i wasted my time getting to 82 att for the fang since its the same smh
Actually man I'm doing a fang vs whip video in a few weeks and all I'll say is that they're NOT the same :)
@twistedbowrs Oh cool. I looked into it more and it still seems worth it. I ended up buying one today because it was only a little under 18mill and wasn't sure if it was going to keep going down or up. Almost lvl 80 now
The fang is definitely something you would want for higher level combat. Keep up the grind!
@@twistedbowrsdecepcionado com fang, comprei por 30m e hj custa tão pouco. JAMAIS venderei o fang.
nem eu
Fang vs Abyssal Whip?
Added to the list!
With melee training, GP per XP irreverent because you still own the item so it isn't actually costing you money to use it if you sell it afterwards. At a 6 hour shorter training time, most would use the rapier if it was viable to them financially and they were only concerned with fastest melee training on lower defence npcs but the fan ia beneficial over higher defence level monsters so can you do another comparison against higher defence monsters to see which is better for anyone wanting to decide which is better for bossing or slaying. LOVED THE VIDEO!
Thanks for watching!
does the fang degrade ?
No
Love afking me some Zeah souls, nice vid!
Thanks!!
Big fan of afking anglers on my alt
Sounds lucrative!
or hear me out...buy the rapier...lvl your str to 99 than sell it... its constant 50m+
than buy the fang
What's the fun in that
Me buying the Osmumtens fang at 50mil and now it’s 11mil 😭
Man it's so cheap rn it's ridiculous
@@twistedbowrs I just started 4 days ago, would this be a good weapon to aim for now? Been hardcore grinding combat right now then plan on doing a bunch of quest and such afterwards but not sure what to do. Considering 99 thieving to farm for blood shards or elves for the crystals. Thanks!
The fang should be a good goal because it's so cheap yet effective. Gl on the grind!
@@twistedbowrs Gotcha thanks! And yeah the price to performance seemed pretty amazing. Just picked up Sulphur blades and they've increased my dps by quite a bit as well compared to the dragon sword I was using for now lol. Keep up the awesome comparisons!
Hey glad to help! Appreciate the support!
I guess I degraded down because I had a rapier and sold it and got a fang 😂
Nothing wrong with a fang given it's even cheaper than when I made the video lol.
cannon ball smelting while leveling an alt
Probably top 5 afk activity in the game for a long time.
Psh i got the rapier when it was like 120m left for a year come back 50..
Pain
@@twistedbowrs the price of ancestral made up for it.
Oh not too bad then :)
I bought both since fang is now worth 13m lol
Ya I bought the fang when it was much higher but honestly it's worth keeping because of how useful it is.
Given that rapier is faster, if you can afford it def get it to speed up slayer.
Rapier for low stab def, fang for high def anything.
Yessir!
afk willows in draynor f2p worlds or afk barb fishing in barb village f2p worlds
Fishing is always a good option!
Fang is also good for TOA
Yup never tried Raids but I heard it gets a boost there.
Fang vs zombie axe
There is actually a zombie axe comparison coming out Tuesday :)
@@twistedbowrs oh that's what's up
lmfao i know this is 7 months old, but how the hell did you sneak in that bs gp/upgrade l0l, i mean yeah you can do whatever you like, but that calculation makes no sense at all, you can sell these items back, so there is no gp/xp/upgrade
It's just a number I decided to include lol, it's not really a major decision maker for me.
Mining fallen stars
Like as a money maker?
@@twistedbowrs oh no, just my go to afking
Ah I gotcha. I used to do Motherlode mine for afk mining maybe I should try Shooting stars if it's more relaxing.
Fang now down to 16m lol
TOA prices are crazy rn man
do you do nmz alot? if so youre going to be kicking yourself in the ass for not leveling slayer and combat at the same time. nothing like seeing max combats with 60 slayer and 0 gp
Lately I've only been doing NMZ for videos. I have 87 slayer but I get what you're saying.
@@twistedbowrs ohhh shii nvm you good
fang is junk since nerf
I heard it was only a slash nerf that affected the fang at a few bosses, but overall it shouldn't have affected the stab bonuses.
@@twistedbowrs that and the passive effect that effects accuracy and hit damage based on mobs defense. Still ok, but for 23m vs 52m ur def right. I’d only get rapier if rich. Great videos. Subbed.
Thanks for your support!!
jesus you noobs are braindead
very first comment :D
LFG!!